@@giovannitorres9337 But still main conflict was between cap and stark. So if they made a second movie,it's gonna be riri vs carol or something like that.And with current state of marvel it's not going to take itself as serious as the civil war movie.
The Civil War should have been built up for more then 1 movie. I think the stakes dont feel high until the 3rd act were Tony finds out the truth and goes full rage mode.
@@slimyduck2140 I know but the stakes should feel high throurghthout all three acts especially in this kind of story and it should culminate in the climax. The Comic does this 100 times better
@@slimyduck2140 Everyone has opinions i just think they could have done it better. To me it feels like it didnt leave a lasting impact bcs all of the conflicts are resolved in the next movie. I highly recommend you to read the comic and see what i mean.
You must have had even less fun watching the show than most then, since your reason to watch the show ended up being annoying and just a terrible character lol
@@lucassaroll One of my favourite comic book characters was She Hulk, I watched She Hulk for She Hulk, she may not be as good as she is in the comics but it’s my opinion
Yeah but they got back together extremely fast and haven’t broken back up since. Tbf it was still great for progressing the MCU and introducing new characters
@@PyroPuffs777 nooooo. Thanos only won in infinity war because the avengers were completly disorganized. They sorta got back together before endgame. And as far as we know they disbanded again after endgame and the avengers arent a thing anymore curently
@@PyroPuffs777 they didn’t ever get back together. They kind of united again in Endgame but after that they lost Iron Man, Cap, Thor, and Black Widow was dead before that. There are no more superhero teams. I mean look at the main hero line up of Civil War. No one remembers Peter, Wanda might be dead, T’Challa is dead, Vision is dead, we don’t know what’s up with war machine, and the Falcon is now Captain America. Most of them can’t return to the Avengers because they’re dead
@@adventurekitty1016 I mean the movie, the soundtrack, and the cultural moment. All those things would be nothing without Chadwick's performance in civil war
@@cybercrasherstv lol black panther was pretty mid tho, and cultural? They just grabbed random african aesthetics and mixed em with an advanced civilization dependent on an alien material, nothing cultural about it, its almost insulting, actually for many it is, except for dum americans specially african americans who dont know better lol
@@nivaneh1010 even when it got serious near the end of the fight, everyone knew that whatever happens it's not gonna leave any huge impact. At least they didn't make black panther say any jokes during the fight.
Tony did technically win, cap just got a moment’s luck when Tony was distracted. And tbh, if tony was really out for cap’s blood, the lasers would have not been used on just the walls
@Lord Lemonton cause he wasn't trying to kill cap. He's most effective when going for the kill and you can tell he's going easy on him and mostly playing it defensive, with occasional bursts of offense maily focused on Bucky. Cap is at his strongest in a fist fight and I would say Tony and Bucky would be pretty even when it comes to hand to hand, so it does make sense.
Pretty sure by “real fan” he meant a comic reader because there’s no point in watching the newer marvel stuff unless you’re a comic fanatic who would love to see a character in live action.
He means people who read all the comics vs people who just watch the movies. If you read all the comics, these next phases get you hyped. As for me who just watches the movies, I couldn't give a flying fuck about the next phases. The only reason I'm even remotely interested is because I have a buddy that's a mega marvel fan and he talks to me about marvel a lot. Half the time I don't know what he's talking about but i listen cause it does sound interesting
@@spencerbelcher9688 I haven't read a single Marvel comic, yet I am excited for the next phases even though most of phase 4 was pretty bad. You don't need to read the comics to be a fan, and I honestly don't even care if somebody calls me a fake fan because "real fans" are just the spinny things
No, in Doctor Strange universe of madness in another universe Dr Strange defeated Thanos by using black magic, in marvel What If in another universe Ultron defeated thanos, and in another universe the Thanos plot never happened due to a zombie infection, and that's not counting the comics only the mcu, but anyway the "only timeline" is bs
@@Zonlox_ that was the only timeline that won out of 14 million outcomes that dr strange saw. There were probably millions more or even possibly infinite amount
Youre not gonna watch bc youre not a marvel fan you think dc fans stopped watching after every movie being hot garbage youre not a marvel fan just a movie fan
Damn I wrote a whole comment like this before reading yours, yea though me and my friend are die hard marvel fans and we’ve just given up after spiderman maybe even before I didn’t watch black widow or Shang chi just wanted endgame but god damn how they’ve ruined the mcu
Are you kidding You kids are so goddamn spoilt. They make a couple of shows for more casual audience and everyone starts crying. Bitch do you know what Marvel fans went through in the 90s? A Spider Man cartoon where Spidey isnt allowed to punch. Fucking Clone Saga and Onslaught and the whole Heroes Reborn bullshit. And some of the movies were fucking awful. Everyone bitching about Captain Marvel and She Hulk? Go watch Elektra and get back to me. Marvel is in a better place now than it has been in decades.
I mean yeah im tryna watch all of them and those Disney plus series She hulk, Moon knight, Loki, etc but i gotta finish those animated movies first 😅 because they seem to be Forgotten
Civil war broke the avengers until endgame the events of that movie are why Thanos won in infinity war if all the avengers were still together and at full strength they would’ve stopped Thanos, civil war is one of the most important mcu movies
I have the avengers STILL losing to Thanos with his 2 gems. He took out thor AND hulk at the same time om.the Asgard ship which are the Avengers heaviest hitters. They're not winning that fight man UNLESS they plan it correctly and even then it's a very slight chance of success
Cap. Literally the avengers join together again by the time Infinity war act 1 ends. Marvel fans will believe everything but actually shown in the movie
this guy knows exactly what he's talking about, you're the one who defines what someone who 'knows a lot about marvel' by their calibration with the vomit marvel has recently been dealing out
@@buk3091 recently theyve released wandavision, falcon and winter soldier, loki, shang chi, hawkeye, nwh, moon knight, and werewolf by night, soon to be added wakanda forever and guardians holiday special but its dogshit over a couple of movies
I actually liked the old fantastic 4 films and I'm glad I never heard about daredevils return cuz it made it a hell of a lot more special hearing his cane tapping then seeing him was amazing
I also like the old Fantastic 4 films tho can't say the same with Fantastic 4 reboot they did it which I just see it as a they want to revive the fantastic 4 but it failed mainly on the story.
@@crimsonwolf5397 I honestly just wished they chose a different actor for torch bc personally Evans didn't really fit him for me, and also I wished galactus was actually shown and doom was not heavily shoved in the 2nd film .
Civil War was awesome. The impact that it had was the division and distrust left in the aftermath within the team. The story was great too, the idea of doing what is right or doing what your told, like the Dark Knight Returns. And Zemo is proof that you don't need great power to destroy the world, you can do it just as well with strategy and enough determination to carry it out.
It was also way better than the comics. The comic has a way less interesting dynamic, Tony is objectively a villain in it, and its filled with a ton of weird bullshit, like the android Thor.
Exactly, it feels like everyone hates the old movies now because of the current state of marvel. So what if the comics had a bigger impact? Comics are infamous for always resetting everything anyways. And the movie was massive. Cap was no longer Cap and Tony became more responsible. BP and Spiderman were both introduced and were both set up fantastically for their solo movies
The impact of the movie was to break apart the avengers so that it would be an even bigger challenge to defeat thanos, I thought it did a good job introducing Spider-Man and black panther. It’s my favorite marvel movie and I thought it took place at a good time
@@alaskansalmon8666 Let's hope so, mate. I've lost my faith on Phase 5 already. The only one i waiting for is only Quantumania and Loki Season 2. I still can't believe they've turned our darkest villain "Gorr the God butcher" into a fokin clown.
@@dante2400 "our darkest villain" is Gorr? Lmao he's hardly the only nihilistic villain Marvel has and while the Thor movie did do the character a disservice I'm not gonna hold that against the MCU by any means lol
Who ever came up with this style of short where they end in a manner to lead into the beginning is the goat but now we honestly pulling our hair every creator jamming it down our throats
I think it’s more of the fact that i was like 6 when iron man came out and im 23 now so as an adult there’s not a lot of draw for me to continue to support a childrens property, at least that’s my opinion. It’s like star wars im happy to revisit the stuff i grew up with but the stuff now legitimately isn’t made with me in mind so im not going to watch it.
@@willvermillion1025 If you’re 23, you would’ve had to have been 8 or 9 when Iron Man released. Edit: Not like it matters, but I just felt like doing that math lmao
A Civil War movie would’ve been awful without the classic Captain America/Iron Man team captains set up. What characters would even take the lead in this scenario? It’s such a stupid idea
Wayyy too many ppl on here thinking "Iron Man would have killed Cap" if he was serious. If anything the movie was favoring Iron Man. Bucky did not want to fight and Cap was only focused on distracting Iron Man. If both Cap and Bucky were out for blood, Tony would NOT hav a chance.
The awesome line “AVENGERS! Assemble.” that Cap says is cool but it would’ve been so much better if it had been built up for more than a couple of movies.
Honestly I think the mutant registration act would be perfect for an MCU civil war 2. A sort of pseudo avengers Vs x-men without being restricted to just those 2 teams
It's a fantastic movie, but we saw it too early It was supposed to be after endgame, so the hype will be much more And it maybe even be the best movie of the decade
@@starekttheghost3053 how would it be after endgame if tony dies in it. Literally wouldve made no sense putting it after the followin marvels movies cuz they were settin up for the infinity saga
In my opinion civil war was used at the right time, because it split up the avengers and introduced spider man and black panther, all of which were important for infinity war. if the original avengers along with The 4 new avengers introduced at the end of age of Ultron were at the fight against thanos they could have won. In my opinion
It’s so fascinating how the perception of things change over time, because I remember everyone thinking of the Civil War storyline as mid when It finally wrapped up, and the only reason anyone really cared was because Spider-Man and some of the XMen were involved, as well as rumors of a Iron Man movie being in production.
Spider-Man parts were definitely the best, most people only read the main run and consider it mid, but there was like 140 tie-ins to it, I can't say I've read it all, but for the people who have, apparently it's masterfully crafted, my teacher has them all read, lol, his favourite comic book event
Honestly having an entire story be dedicated to superheroes fighting each other just wouldn’t work well since these people have known each other for ages and for them to be put into a story where they are instantly trying to kill each other would just dissolve into more dark and violent nonsense with many beloved characters getting killed off and being forgotten about or other characters simply not appearing in the conflict at all Injustice and Civil War are very bad comic book adaptations of Marvel/DC
a little TLDR for how civil war happened in the comics is that it wasn't really an event that caused it, it was a bunch of tensions between groups and nations finally coming to breaking points after the straw broke the camels back and there was no mastermind behind the scenes
@@andraw4002 it was more of a tipping point than an actual spearheaded event, and it didn't cause Civil War, just for legislation and division, multiple events afterwards is what really caused it
I think it was used at the right time because in Infinity war the Avengers were separated which caused them to lose, which made them come back together in Endgame, teaching them to put aside differences for the great or good, making its impact bigger.
"Everybody who watched SheHulk was literally only waiting to see DareDevil again." Nope, I was watching for SheHulk. DareDevil was cool to see again, though.
Could do Civil War II; maybe a combo of A vs. X and have Wanda replace the Phoenix force and have a second civil war between those who want to kill her and those who want to use her
The genius of this movie universe at first was that with each movie the universe was being built upon as the audience watched. So the audience felt like they were growing along with the characters. But the problem that it's now created is that they continuously have to introduce characters that should have been there from the very beginning, and either say they were there from the very start and make a prequel movie, or introduce them as a brand new character, and show their origin story and somehow make it fit in with everything else. The Way the animated shows always did it was start off somewhere in the middle of the timeline, where the world and characters already existed. That way, all they have to do to give an opening for a character to be introduced is for another to mention them.
The civil war comic wasn't really that good, and the movie was better. Not that it's a good adaptation, it was only superficially tied to the comics' themes and didn't adapt much of the story or its beats. They can always revisit the Civil War concept later on, and call it Civil War 2. It doesn't need to be an adaptation of the second series, and can walk closer to the original comic.
@@speeddemonji9547 I'm a comics guy over mcu, and the movie was better than the comic. I don't get why he said the movie had no impact, it set the tone of unease for that phase, and it was way better than Age of Ultron.
In the civil war you can't lie you kind of feel bad for iron Man because after you found out the zemo did he did try to help but when he found out parents you can't blame him for being mad
To be fair, the Movie on it‘s own was still Amazing and possibly the best MCU ever with how great everything fit in together with Baron Zemo being an amazing Villain. But let’s not act as if the first Civil War was flawless. It brought us the BP & Storm marriage which i am all for this couple, i have to admit writers messed them up bad including here, Johnny Storm getting glassed and knocked out by regular people and Tony literally just creating a new Thor, only for him to be killed by Hercules at the end of CW anyway
Superman getting his beam deflected reminds me of that one marvel game where you could do combo special attacks and if you did it with those 2 it made a bunch of smaller beams
They’re setting up civil war two with the mention of the reversing of the sakovia accords in she hulk. Also we could potentially see daredevil vs she hulk as the heads of the opposing factions. Since they already had their “moment” together in her show it’d have the same grounds as cap and stark
Unfortunately I feel like the stakes after Endgame got so enormous and fantastical something like Civil War coming after that was much more grounded would get lambasted
i get what you're saying but i also dont at the same time. Having civil war happen after endgame wouldve been really cool and definitely very impactful, but that wouldve followed the comic story mpre accurately. Which isnt bad, it wouldve been insane and i wouldve been all for it. But the movies are inherently different. At least slightly anyways. It happened at the perfect time in the movies. it brought in new characters, caused real conflict between the avengers, gave us an incredible Zemo and allowed for thanos to win in infinity war, because in all likeliness, if the avengers were still together during infinity war thanos wouldve lost.
It made huge impact. Discovery of spiderman Captain america finding tchalla (for avengers infinity war plot) Wanda and vision went away making it easier for thanos' minion to get to them Awesome intro of zemo Accordia accords intro which have several effects in the future
It was utilized effectively because the goal was to split the Avengers up so that they’d lose in Infinity War. Just like any other comic-book based story adaptation at that moment in time, the world was not built enough for it to be a near identical copy. Thus, the option is either to adapt another storyline (which would again leave you unsatisfied) or create something entirely new (which would probably also leave you unsatisfied)
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Ok, now hear me out
They just make a second one
Ya cause the second one in the comics was so great😒
@@muhammedmahin7126 as if the 1st civil war movie was remotely close to the comic one.
May as well try again.
@@giovannitorres9337 But still main conflict was between cap and stark.
So if they made a second movie,it's gonna be riri vs carol or something like that.And with current state of marvel it's not going to take itself as serious as the civil war movie.
@@muhammedmahin7126 yeah because they’ll make sure to copy everything that people didn’t like in the comic straight into the movie🙄
@@trippinbawls88 she is it’s in the Waianae for ever movie and she’s getting her show Tony Starks daughter is iron man iron woman idk
The Civil War should have been built up for more then 1 movie. I think the stakes dont feel high until the 3rd act were Tony finds out the truth and goes full rage mode.
No it shouldn’t have
That's kinda the point of a 3rd act, it's supposed to be the point were the stakes really get high
@@slimyduck2140 I know but the stakes should feel high throurghthout all three acts especially in this kind of story and it should culminate in the climax. The Comic does this 100 times better
@@theguy1239 I'd argue that the stakes feels high enough for me but it's been a while since I watched the movie and I haven't read the comic
@@slimyduck2140 Everyone has opinions i just think they could have done it better. To me it feels like it didnt leave a lasting impact bcs all of the conflicts are resolved in the next movie. I highly recommend you to read the comic and see what i mean.
Zemo was literally a god in that movie
Zemo is also more menacing in the comics, in my opinion
@@Therealflash69 honestly yes. I
There's only one God ma'am. And I'm pretty sure he doesn't dress like that
@@Yougotcaged102 u remember?
@DjEmiIt's a bird! It's a plane! It's the joke flying right over your head!
They introduced black panther perfectly in the movie
A captain America titled, avenger cameo crap movie, introduced black panther
Toxic fan
@@amankhadka9622 toxic reply
What you mean
@@amankhadka9622 How in any shape or form is that being a toxic fan?
I actually didn’t know daredevil was gonna be in She-Hulk. I watched She-Hulk because of She-Hulk
You must have had even less fun watching the show than most then, since your reason to watch the show ended up being annoying and just a terrible character lol
@@lucassaroll One of my favourite comic book characters was She Hulk, I watched She Hulk for She Hulk, she may not be as good as she is in the comics but it’s my opinion
@@lucassaroll You had to be that guy
I thought it was obvious, as Daredevil was in Spiderman No way home as a lawyer for a superpowered individual.
I knew he was going to be in it but I still watched for She-Hulk. Probably why I wasn’t upset after every episode he didn’t show up in.
Movie had no impact: splits up avengers casually
Yeah but they got back together extremely fast and haven’t broken back up since. Tbf it was still great for progressing the MCU and introducing new characters
@@PyroPuffs777 Well, no, not really. They where divided through all of Infinity War, which gave Thanos a MUCH easier time taking them out.
@@PyroPuffs777 nooooo. Thanos only won in infinity war because the avengers were completly disorganized. They sorta got back together before endgame. And as far as we know they disbanded again after endgame and the avengers arent a thing anymore curently
@@Ash-jl9wd i think that the lack of avengers is what’s going to lead to the thunderbolts being able to be created
@@PyroPuffs777 they didn’t ever get back together. They kind of united again in Endgame but after that they lost Iron Man, Cap, Thor, and Black Widow was dead before that. There are no more superhero teams. I mean look at the main hero line up of Civil War. No one remembers Peter, Wanda might be dead, T’Challa is dead, Vision is dead, we don’t know what’s up with war machine, and the Falcon is now Captain America. Most of them can’t return to the Avengers because they’re dead
In retrospect, Chadwick's death makes that movie perfectly timed. Without it, there would be no black panther
I think you mean different Black Panther(but not necessarily better, no one can replace Chadwick)
@@adventurekitty1016 I mean the movie, the soundtrack, and the cultural moment. All those things would be nothing without Chadwick's performance in civil war
@@cybercrasherstv Ohh. 😅
Considering if they waited. Im sure there would have just been a different actor playing black panther
@@cybercrasherstv lol black panther was pretty mid tho, and cultural? They just grabbed random african aesthetics and mixed em with an advanced civilization dependent on an alien material, nothing cultural about it, its almost insulting, actually for many it is, except for dum americans specially african americans who dont know better lol
Civil war such a gem. No stupid funny jokes every 10 seconds it was serious and had funny moments perfect balance.
The fight in the airport were full of jokes and it was pretty annoying. It felt like there was no stakes
@@therealone_20 it wasn't overly saturated though and not really forced. It got more serious near the end of that fight.
@@nivaneh1010 even when it got serious near the end of the fight, everyone knew that whatever happens it's not gonna leave any huge impact. At least they didn't make black panther say any jokes during the fight.
Tony did technically win, cap just got a moment’s luck when Tony was distracted. And tbh, if tony was really out for cap’s blood, the lasers would have not been used on just the walls
@Lord Lemonton cause he wasn't trying to kill cap. He's most effective when going for the kill and you can tell he's going easy on him and mostly playing it defensive, with occasional bursts of offense maily focused on Bucky. Cap is at his strongest in a fist fight and I would say Tony and Bucky would be pretty even when it comes to hand to hand, so it does make sense.
half the universe literally ceased to exist because of the impact of this movie 😂
iF yOuR’E a ReAl FaN
Pretty sure by “real fan” he meant a comic reader because there’s no point in watching the newer marvel stuff unless you’re a comic fanatic who would love to see a character in live action.
He really pulled out with the "real marvel fans"
Right?
Yeah this dudes cringe
Typical comic book gatekeeping.
He means people who read all the comics vs people who just watch the movies. If you read all the comics, these next phases get you hyped. As for me who just watches the movies, I couldn't give a flying fuck about the next phases. The only reason I'm even remotely interested is because I have a buddy that's a mega marvel fan and he talks to me about marvel a lot. Half the time I don't know what he's talking about but i listen cause it does sound interesting
@@spencerbelcher9688 I haven't read a single Marvel comic, yet I am excited for the next phases even though most of phase 4 was pretty bad. You don't need to read the comics to be a fan, and I honestly don't even care if somebody calls me a fake fan because "real fans" are just the spinny things
Him saying no impact The actual impact was that they weren’t ready for tanos as a team which led them to lose
Tanos😂😂😂
@@Matte.black127 “What’s tan and purple at the same time?”
Then they went back in time and won=still no impact
No they were gonna lose regardless
They would've lost separated or together anyway
"Didn't really have much of an impact"
Also it: Breaks the team apart which literally gave them the disadvantage at infinity war.
exactly
That was literally one of the timelines that won
No, in Doctor Strange universe of madness in another universe Dr Strange defeated Thanos by using black magic, in marvel What If in another universe Ultron defeated thanos, and in another universe the Thanos plot never happened due to a zombie infection, and that's not counting the comics only the mcu, but anyway the "only timeline" is bs
@@Zonlox_ that was the only timeline that won out of 14 million outcomes that dr strange saw. There were probably millions more or even possibly infinite amount
Bruh the next film they team up and win
“If you’re a real marvel fan you’ll keep watching …”
I could argue the exact opposite. The current state of the MCU breaks my heart.
Youre not gonna watch bc youre not a marvel fan you think dc fans stopped watching after every movie being hot garbage youre not a marvel fan just a movie fan
Fr, you can be a fan but still have some sense of taste, instead of blindly being force fed this bland Twitter-approved Disney bullcrap
Damn I wrote a whole comment like this before reading yours, yea though me and my friend are die hard marvel fans and we’ve just given up after spiderman maybe even before I didn’t watch black widow or Shang chi just wanted endgame but god damn how they’ve ruined the mcu
Are you kidding
You kids are so goddamn spoilt. They make a couple of shows for more casual audience and everyone starts crying.
Bitch do you know what Marvel fans went through in the 90s? A Spider Man cartoon where Spidey isnt allowed to punch.
Fucking Clone Saga and Onslaught and the whole Heroes Reborn bullshit.
And some of the movies were fucking awful. Everyone bitching about Captain Marvel and She Hulk? Go watch Elektra and get back to me.
Marvel is in a better place now than it has been in decades.
I mean yeah im tryna watch all of them and those Disney plus series She hulk, Moon knight, Loki, etc but i gotta finish those animated movies first 😅 because they seem to be Forgotten
Me: *Looks over at the Civil War 2 comics* Hmm, yeat let's not touch those ones
Yeah they're fucking awful lmfao.
In the mcu, a civil war 2 would be nothing like the comics tho
Civil war broke the avengers until endgame the events of that movie are why Thanos won in infinity war if all the avengers were still together and at full strength they would’ve stopped Thanos, civil war is one of the most important mcu movies
Or hear me out thaos won because he already had 2 infinity stones
@@spongebobgotthesudsbecause5169 ok but if all Avengers were together, they might fight together rather fighting different at different places.
I have the avengers STILL losing to Thanos with his 2 gems. He took out thor AND hulk at the same time om.the Asgard ship which are the Avengers heaviest hitters. They're not winning that fight man UNLESS they plan it correctly and even then it's a very slight chance of success
@@MelloHubb did you watch infinity war? What happened on titan?😂😂😂
If they Made thanos as Strongh as he was in comics then he will beat the crap out of them
Bro's saying civil war didn't had any impact, but thanos literally won BECAUSE of civil war
Not really but I guess he did win cause of ragnarok
@@Deathmare235 nah, he is right
Cap.
Literally the avengers join together again by the time Infinity war act 1 ends.
Marvel fans will believe everything but actually shown in the movie
@@abdullahahmad4239 "all avengers" go to sleep lol🤣
@@abdullahahmad4239 Did you even watch the movie?
It’s like watching the book of Boba Fett just for the Mandalorian
Tf
@@Deathmare235 fr
No, everybody wants to watch book of boba FOR BOBA
@@TheProfessor66 Said no one ever
@@TheProfessor66 Nope
Crazy how he said there wasn’t an impact when zemo destroyed them and they were never the same seems like an impact to me
Me :- thinking this guy knows a lot about Marvel
Him :- calls 'she hulk' a movie
Me 👁️👄👁️
this guy knows exactly what he's talking about, you're the one who defines what someone who 'knows a lot about marvel' by their calibration with the vomit marvel has recently been dealing out
@@buk3091 I think you misunderstood my comment brother I was just pointing out how he mistakingly called she hulk a movie
@@levida7260 He corrected it in the subtitles tho
@@buk3091 recently theyve released wandavision, falcon and winter soldier, loki, shang chi, hawkeye, nwh, moon knight, and werewolf by night, soon to be added wakanda forever and guardians holiday special but its dogshit over a couple of movies
@@giothemolester6
I hope you don't think all those things were good.
Spider-Man showing up and Ant Man actually having a scene for once made it worth it
No impact? It's why Infinity War played out as it did
yeah it impacted 1 film
@@omnissiahGaspar it impacted the universe
@@ninjanibba4259 1 film, they literally beat him in Endgame 😹
I’m honestly just glad they got a movie out with RDJ and Chris Evans as the 2 main characters
Wouldn’t that be every avengers film so far? They’re the main two…
@@therockingvolbeat3630 infinity war was a thor, iron man movie.
I actually liked the old fantastic 4 films and I'm glad I never heard about daredevils return cuz it made it a hell of a lot more special hearing his cane tapping then seeing him was amazing
I also like the old Fantastic 4 films tho can't say the same with Fantastic 4 reboot they did it which I just see it as a they want to revive the fantastic 4 but it failed mainly on the story.
@@crimsonwolf5397 I honestly just wished they chose a different actor for torch bc personally Evans didn't really fit him for me, and also I wished galactus was actually shown and doom was not heavily shoved in the 2nd film .
Not me just watching black panther 2 and crying when they he mentions T’challa 😅
Civil War was awesome. The impact that it had was the division and distrust left in the aftermath within the team. The story was great too, the idea of doing what is right or doing what your told, like the Dark Knight Returns. And Zemo is proof that you don't need great power to destroy the world, you can do it just as well with strategy and enough determination to carry it out.
It was also way better than the comics. The comic has a way less interesting dynamic, Tony is objectively a villain in it, and its filled with a ton of weird bullshit, like the android Thor.
"If you're a real marvel fan"
It did have an impact though. The Avengers split, which was a factor in Thanos winning
“If you’re a real marvel fan you’ll keep watching” actually exact opposite
Basically said nothing about why it was early 😂😂
Read comics lil bro
Endgame was the perfect conclusion to the OG character's stories. Civil War was done at the right time for the MCU
No. It feel lackluster compared to the comic.
@@lucianoantoniourionavargas2932 I disagree
Exactly, it feels like everyone hates the old movies now because of the current state of marvel. So what if the comics had a bigger impact? Comics are infamous for always resetting everything anyways. And the movie was massive. Cap was no longer Cap and Tony became more responsible. BP and Spiderman were both introduced and were both set up fantastically for their solo movies
Infinity war*
Endgame was trash.
@@Eking-su3tr Infinity War was not the conclusion to the original character's stories
The impact of the movie was to break apart the avengers so that it would be an even bigger challenge to defeat thanos, I thought it did a good job introducing Spider-Man and black panther. It’s my favorite marvel movie and I thought it took place at a good time
It did and it set up plotlines for the conclusion of the phase. The RUclipsr is talking out of his @$$
@@VarnoSlimm yes I usually respect this guys opinion but imma have to disagree with this one
some people just can’t think for themselves
they need an “influencer” to do it for them
Spiderman entry be like:- am I a joke to you?
Civil War will always be my favorite MCU movie
Bro I swear if they kill off Dr. doom too early I’m gonna be upset
He’ll go from movie villain to main saga villain to anti hero
And i'm afraid that Kang the Conqueror will be dissappointing even they introduce his variant really well in the end of Loki Season 1
Nah, I trust Kevin Feige knows how major of a villain he is and will make him have a much more serious impact
@@alaskansalmon8666 Let's hope so, mate.
I've lost my faith on Phase 5 already. The only one i waiting for is only Quantumania and Loki Season 2.
I still can't believe they've turned our darkest villain "Gorr the God butcher" into a fokin clown.
@@dante2400 "our darkest villain" is Gorr? Lmao he's hardly the only nihilistic villain Marvel has and while the Thor movie did do the character a disservice I'm not gonna hold that against the MCU by any means lol
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exactly, glad someone else also noticed
Yea the mf just wants some views,
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You the one that got a racist guy as you’re pfp tho
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Civil War 2 was just Carol Danvers arresting everyone and becoming more hated.
Who's even talking about CW2
@@zanu8147 no one because it sucks
Who ever came up with this style of short where they end in a manner to lead into the beginning is the goat but now we honestly pulling our hair every creator jamming it down our throats
bucky and steve shitting on ironman was nice doe
It literally made endgame-
... what are you like 5?
@@ANTSEMUT1 what kind of question is that?
"What reason is left their to watch marvel movies after endgame?".......spoken like a true twitter and reddit user
I think it’s more of the fact that i was like 6 when iron man came out and im 23 now so as an adult there’s not a lot of draw for me to continue to support a childrens property, at least that’s my opinion. It’s like star wars im happy to revisit the stuff i grew up with but the stuff now legitimately isn’t made with me in mind so im not going to watch it.
@@willvermillion1025 it’s a family property, right? I don’t think it’s fair to look at it that.
@@willvermillion1025 If you’re 23, you would’ve had to have been 8 or 9 when Iron Man released.
Edit: Not like it matters, but I just felt like doing that math lmao
@@thehale_ perhaps they meant iron man 2
@@willvermillion1025 You failed math didn't you
Maybe they released civil war before endgame because
They wanna kill iron Man in End game so how they make a civil war without iron man?
A Civil War movie would’ve been awful without the classic Captain America/Iron Man team captains set up. What characters would even take the lead in this scenario? It’s such a stupid idea
Wayyy too many ppl on here thinking "Iron Man would have killed Cap" if he was serious. If anything the movie was favoring Iron Man. Bucky did not want to fight and Cap was only focused on distracting Iron Man. If both Cap and Bucky were out for blood, Tony would NOT hav a chance.
The awesome line “AVENGERS! Assemble.” that Cap says is cool but it would’ve been so much better if it had been built up for more than a couple of movies.
Wdym the movie is one of the best in the mcu
As long as they dont ever even acknowledge civil war 2 im fine with more fights
Honestly I think the mutant registration act would be perfect for an MCU civil war 2. A sort of pseudo avengers Vs x-men without being restricted to just those 2 teams
me who actually wanted to see she hulk:*sigh*
Glad someone finally has the stones to call out the people that pretend to be “real fans” because they watch the movies and don’t read comics
You're spot on.
After restoring the universe a plot line that is more personal for the heroes would have worked better.
60 seconds of bad talking the best movie in 2016
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I wanna get to 1k u think we can do that
Facts this guy's on mushrooms pretending like what we got wasn't amazing 😂
I don’t think he’s arguing that fact, just that we got it too early
It's a fantastic movie, but we saw it too early
It was supposed to be after endgame, so the hype will be much more
And it maybe even be the best movie of the decade
@@starekttheghost3053 how would it be after endgame if tony dies in it. Literally wouldve made no sense putting it after the followin marvels movies cuz they were settin up for the infinity saga
Dude I can name you at least 10 films better than civil war in 2016... You have very bad taste in movies
In my opinion civil war was used at the right time, because it split up the avengers and introduced spider man and black panther, all of which were important for infinity war. if the original avengers along with The 4 new avengers introduced at the end of age of Ultron were at the fight against thanos they could have won. In my opinion
☝️Hurr durr ☝️I like explosions like Michael Bay movies
I am already hyped up when you said t'challa being badass.
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It's almost like they heard that DC was doing a hero vs hero movie and said, "we gotta do dat!!!!"
It’s so fascinating how the perception of things change over time, because I remember everyone thinking of the Civil War storyline as mid when It finally wrapped up, and the only reason anyone really cared was because Spider-Man and some of the XMen were involved, as well as rumors of a Iron Man movie being in production.
Spider-Man parts were definitely the best, most people only read the main run and consider it mid, but there was like 140 tie-ins to it, I can't say I've read it all, but for the people who have, apparently it's masterfully crafted, my teacher has them all read, lol, his favourite comic book event
Used too early but imagine how bad it would have been if Marvel did it today.
Are you team Captain Marvel or She-Hulk?
Funfact Dr. doom is physically strong enough to break diamonds with his bare hands
He once killed a lion with one punch while he was bare naked too.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 oh yea I remember
Diamonds are not hard in that way, they are hard because you can't scratch them easily, but they are easy to break
@@alfredohumberto2222 Bro how strong are you
@@antoinlirious2305 I don't know but strong enough to break a diamond with my bare hands
The best part of that movie was the beautifully crafted drama between the characters
Civil war at this point would need to be a short series with a cinematic budget
Civil war felt like marvel pallet cleansing and setting the stage for endgame
bro i remember seeing them barely finish winter soldier and i got surprised when FREAKING CIVIL WAR trailer got released. i was laughing hard
Honestly having an entire story be dedicated to superheroes fighting each other just wouldn’t work well since these people have known each other for ages and for them to be put into a story where they are instantly trying to kill each other would just dissolve into more dark and violent nonsense with many beloved characters getting killed off and being forgotten about or other characters simply not appearing in the conflict at all
Injustice and Civil War are very bad comic book adaptations of Marvel/DC
a little TLDR for how civil war happened in the comics is that it wasn't really an event that caused it, it was a bunch of tensions between groups and nations finally coming to breaking points after the straw broke the camels back and there was no mastermind behind the scenes
No event took place? Speed Ball was the catalyst.
@@andraw4002 it was more of a tipping point than an actual spearheaded event, and it didn't cause Civil War, just for legislation and division, multiple events afterwards is what really caused it
@@anthonywalnutz9801 I suppose
Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. You have summed it up perfectly!!!!!
All I want to say is this "awesome video man :]
Wasnt speedball an indirect cause for the civil war arc after he blew up that school on accident
Indeed
Rip black panther😢
Chadwick Boseman you mean, Black Panther lives on in spirit.
“Not only was it better in the comics than in the movies” same as everything else but continue
I have read Civil War, The Seige, Dark Reign, Fear itself… man the magic in these comics can never be created fully on screen.
I think it was used at the right time because in Infinity war the Avengers were separated which caused them to lose, which made them come back together in Endgame, teaching them to put aside differences for the great or good, making its impact bigger.
"Everybody who watched SheHulk was literally only waiting to see DareDevil again."
Nope, I was watching for SheHulk. DareDevil was cool to see again, though.
We are totally heading to battle world. What more do you want?
Could do Civil War II; maybe a combo of A vs. X and have Wanda replace the Phoenix force and have a second civil war between those who want to kill her and those who want to use her
There is a civil war ll, cap marvel vs ironman
@@darrenna7023 But that comic was a 2 pack of ass
@@darrenna7023 it’s not that good
@@roberte.o.speedwagon5110 ik
@@roberte.o.speedwagon5110 wdym it’s amazing
The genius of this movie universe at first was that with each movie the universe was being built upon as the audience watched. So the audience felt like they were growing along with the characters. But the problem that it's now created is that they continuously have to introduce characters that should have been there from the very beginning, and either say they were there from the very start and make a prequel movie, or introduce them as a brand new character, and show their origin story and somehow make it fit in with everything else. The Way the animated shows always did it was start off somewhere in the middle of the timeline, where the world and characters already existed. That way, all they have to do to give an opening for a character to be introduced is for another to mention them.
Agreed. That’s why there’s civil war 2 babyyyyy
"look at she Hulk everyone was just excited for daredevil"
Well yeah because they didn't give us a reason to like she Hulk.
The civil war comic wasn't really that good, and the movie was better. Not that it's a good adaptation, it was only superficially tied to the comics' themes and didn't adapt much of the story or its beats. They can always revisit the Civil War concept later on, and call it Civil War 2. It doesn't need to be an adaptation of the second series, and can walk closer to the original comic.
Yeah idk why he’s saying the movie’s version was worse ??? Bro that event was fucking dogshit
@@speeddemonji9547 I'm a comics guy over mcu, and the movie was better than the comic. I don't get why he said the movie had no impact, it set the tone of unease for that phase, and it was way better than Age of Ultron.
In the civil war you can't lie you kind of feel bad for iron Man because after you found out the zemo did he did try to help but when he found out parents you can't blame him for being mad
His parents were dead long ago from a guy who couldn’t even piss without being ordered to be definitely took it too far
@@Deathmare235 yes I can agree with that Tony it really didn't need to do that and Bucky did really regret it but I still feel bad for Tony
To be fair, the Movie on it‘s own was still Amazing and possibly the best MCU ever with how great everything fit in together with Baron Zemo being an amazing Villain. But let’s not act as if the first Civil War was flawless. It brought us the BP & Storm marriage which i am all for this couple, i have to admit writers messed them up bad including here, Johnny Storm getting glassed and knocked out by regular people and Tony literally just creating a new Thor, only for him to be killed by Hercules at the end of CW anyway
Captain America gave everyone those hands in civil war and that’s was the best of that movie, he gave black panther them hands too
Green goblin was right about what he said to Peter Parker when he says that people want to see heroes fall
Can't be the only one that doesn't believe Disney can pull off Dr.Doom
Look at how they destroyed Dr.Strange
Superman getting his beam deflected reminds me of that one marvel game where you could do combo special attacks and if you did it with those 2 it made a bunch of smaller beams
Sword Master needs a movie
“Because….” 🙄 🙄 🙄 - you got me!!! Tricked me into watching your short for an extra 2 seconds. Save some of that big brain energy for the rest of us!!!
The Civil War movie was incredible and we probably wouldn't have gotten one if we didn't get one around then.
They’re setting up civil war two with the mention of the reversing of the sakovia accords in she hulk. Also we could potentially see daredevil vs she hulk as the heads of the opposing factions. Since they already had their “moment” together in her show it’d have the same grounds as cap and stark
Unfortunately I feel like the stakes after Endgame got so enormous and fantastical something like Civil War coming after that was much more grounded would get lambasted
every other people watching she hulk for daredevil me watching she hulk to see hulk getting angry
i get what you're saying but i also dont at the same time. Having civil war happen after endgame wouldve been really cool and definitely very impactful, but that wouldve followed the comic story mpre accurately. Which isnt bad, it wouldve been insane and i wouldve been all for it. But the movies are inherently different. At least slightly anyways. It happened at the perfect time in the movies. it brought in new characters, caused real conflict between the avengers, gave us an incredible Zemo and allowed for thanos to win in infinity war, because in all likeliness, if the avengers were still together during infinity war thanos wouldve lost.
I never watched civil war and it didn’t really feel like I missed anything at all
Civil wars my favorite marvel movie
It made huge impact.
Discovery of spiderman
Captain america finding tchalla (for avengers infinity war plot)
Wanda and vision went away making it easier for thanos' minion to get to them
Awesome intro of zemo
Accordia accords intro which have several effects in the future
I loved Civil War, I wouldn’t have them change another about that film.
It was utilized effectively because the goal was to split the Avengers up so that they’d lose in Infinity War. Just like any other comic-book based story adaptation at that moment in time, the world was not built enough for it to be a near identical copy. Thus, the option is either to adapt another storyline (which would again leave you unsatisfied) or create something entirely new (which would probably also leave you unsatisfied)
That movie did have impacts on all the movies after hell even some of the shows now
I'm so mad that civil war wasn't a phase in itself, such wasted potential
we do have another superhero feud. it's called "Multiverse of Madness"
“Movie had no impact”
The avengers literally would have won in Infinity War if not for civil war and zemo.
You know there’s more than one civil war comic ? “Civil war 2” and counting.. they can do another civil war