The fact that Tony took three of these mistakes from his life and added as a precautionary measure in Peter's suit after one month of knowing him just showed how much he really cared about him.
wololo4699 Well to be fair, _he _*_did_* tolerate _some_ failures... when it came to taking care of him and his emotional and personal needs... He wasn't about to fail everyone else... not again...
One thing a lot of people miss is that during Age of Ultron, the Hulkbuster couldnt slow down the Hulk. So when he built the nano suit, he added more power and more blasters. When his arc reactor was taken out of his chest in the first film, he started adding individual ones to each bit of tech. When he realized that having each piece of the suit fly to him was too unreliable, he made the nano suit so its always with him. During the attack on his mansion, he couldnt aim the rocket in his suit. So he made them auto targeting in the nano suit. And finally, in the first movie, when hes fixing up his hand repulsor, he accidently fires it and realizes it can also be a weapon not just flight stabilizers. Everyone tends to view him as just the guy with money and tech, but hes really the epitomy of always learning from his mistakes. He always grows from his failures. Its why hes one of my favorites
that nanosuit was just lazy writing, basically all the stark later technology and his decision making was stupid, especially if he supposed to be genius or something
Another one was the addition of multiple smaller backup arc reactors on all suits after the mark 46 including the iron spider suit and subsequent war machine armours. It proved extremely useful in the event the main chest reactor is destroyed or damaged. It was another way of ensuring that the suit could continue to basic function in a fight or at least slow a fall in the case of Rhodey's incident in civil war.
I was just thinking about that! I think the first ones must have appeared in Iron Man 3, like Mark 42, who is capable of dividing itself, and also pepper was able to shoot Killian using an arm from the Mark 8, but it's not clear as in Civil War, when he uses a bracelet powered by a mini reactor when he tried to stun Bucky, and the mini reactors are very visible in the Mark 46 armor and subsequent.
Everyone is talking about how amazing stark is and how he was beautifully written. No one is talking about the "Lost to a guy on steroids with a salad plate"
@@benjaminmalaihollo7823 facts. He is supposed to be peak human and I get his shield does a lot of the heavy lifting but when he was gettibg rag dolled by Thanos I was like "how have his bones not snapped like twigs?". Thor can take it and Iron Man with his OP trch, but Cap was in there like his hits wouldn't feel like a toddler flailing at Thanos
That happened because the glove is made from stack tech too, but I guess making a glove that can use infinity stones may count as him learning from Thanos tough
I think the infinity stones were literally bonded to the infinity gauntlet (from dwarven magic or whatever) and he could get FRIDAY to move the nano-tech holding the stones into his gauntlet.
I love how Tony made the whole power absorption mechanic as more of a safety precaution at first, but after Thor shocked him with that bolt in Avengers 1 and accidentally powered up the suit, Tony basically said "let's make this bug into a feature" and made a conduit specifically for Thor on the suit's back
Two points that were missed here: In Age Od Ultron the Hulkbuster’s repulsers weren’t powerful enough to keep the Hulk at bay forcing him to fight hand to hand, so in Infinity War his nanotech suit has significantly more ranged firepower to keep enemies like Coal Obsidian away. And in relation to Rodey falling, Tony’s flight systems weren’t fast enough to catch him so in Infinity War he upgraded them to have a higher top speed. Because Tony learns from his mistakes.
@@senny- "Sadly not everyone is equal, some people are genius and some people don't. And just a genius can recognize themselves as one, and I am something of a genius myself!" - Emperor Nero "Waifu" Claudio.
@@ty194 I never heard of her until this comment so i looked it up and i'm pissed. I'm fairly neutral on woke vs cancel. I see valid points AND problems on both sides. This is the problem i see with the ultra woke, SJW side. Shove it in people's throats, they WILL reject it. And for good cause. Black Panther did race in the MCU right IMO. It was there, it's woven into the story and plot just like real life. Rhodey was kinda the token black guy but with C'hacala there was some depth and it wasn't forced. It made sense. It was organic Sam Wilson as Cap makes sense too. I can support that. Bucky is there too. And that dealt with race. It paralleled our own history with race and racism. They DID test shit on black service-members. And only a few generations later, we had a black president. And I supported him. Best president of my life time by far. But this.... i do not like this. America is over 80% caucasian (about 60% non-hispanic white). It's about 13% black. Quit trying to shoehorn elements that don't make sense. It makes perfect sense that the team would be diverse and they ARE. They have a robot! They had two 90+ yr olds! Multiple immigrants. Shrimp boat captain turned air force pilot or whatever Sam was. Idk where Rhodey from.
Another great improvement was in Iron Man 2 with the final fight Tony takes down a whole crowd of the army drones by using that high powered laser and he tells Roadie "It's too bad I could only use it once." Then by the first Avengers movie he's using the same laser to weld metal together and take down those flying aliens. I always thought that part was well done, where he found a way to use his dad's age old technology and adapt it to the modern day.
@@dejirichard4307 Thanos was much more resilient and stronger for the laser to kill him, also if Tony didn't use it again is because the energy of his palms also got stronger, something that is not mentioned in the video is that after facing War Machine and seeing that his powers could be surpassed even by his old technology, Tony made his energy armament from the arc reactor more powerful, thus making it stronger.
I think part of it was because normally Tony is trying to do actual damage/kill his enemies - but how tf is he gonna do that with Cap? he’s just in pain and lashing out but he’s not trying to murder him
The writers did an awesome job with details in all the movies really. But the attention to Tony's drive to keep testing his limits and failing is perfect. He's always thinking about tomorrow's improvements and yesterday's mistakes.
Honestly I feel like the entirety of MCU was Tony Stark’s story. He was so intertwined in everything that the MCU without him feels like when your favorite sitcom tried to replace the main character with someone else… all the ingredients are still there, it should feel relatively the same… but it just doesn’t.
I really like the one with cap. Tony realized that no matter how advanced his armor is, if he gets in close quarters, someone like cap, who can react faster, hit harder, take more punishment, and has hand to hand knowledge will always beat him. Friday outright says that Tony can’t beat Steve hand to hand. So to fix this he gives himself melee weapons and upgrades that let him trap an opponents arms or legs, allowing him to fight back should his enemies close in. And close quarters has always been something he’s struggled with until then. Every time an enemy gets close enough to put their hands on him, he’s at a disadvantage and usually has to rely on his repulsors to knock them back so he can fire at them.
He even already in Civil War had some measures against that like having the AI analyze the fight pattern, after that it was Bucky distracting him for a moment, not that Steve beat him with pure 1v1.
i still think Tony won that 2v1, bucky was in the floor almost dead and cap was almost the same, just that the plot armor on cap made tony distract for a sec for example before cap destroyed the arc reactor, tony could have blasted his face off with the chest repulsor
Quick Correction: No. 4 isn't a mistake, his suit was always space compatible, he just ran out of power. In the whole fight he kept saying JARVIS to save power, and when he was taking missile to the space he told JARVIS to use all the power the suit had. It hwasn't space condition problem.
One of the Proofs that the suit was indeed Space Compatible is that Tony didn't die of Radiation, Lack of Pressure or whatever else could have killed him up there
Agreed, Tony was already planning to go to space since MK3, but JARVIS said the exoskeleton still needs improving before spaceflight was safe and possible.
I thought the biggest problem in that scene is that JARVIS' functionality within the suit was dependent on stable sattelite connection. This means all targeting systems, data intelligence, and navigation are offline the moment he's in outer space. The ones that do function are his life support and auxillary functions. This is why he later made the suits to have independent systems capable of complex independent computations, which was how the first iron legion was created.
The biggest improvement he ever made to his suits was increasing the speed at which he could put them on. His first suit took so long to put on and start that Yinsen died. So each of the following suits where subsequently made easier and faster to put on. He believed he failed Yinsen, and strove to never make that mistake again.
@@dabois8280 his nanotech suit could've protected him from the damage of those stones but he died bcz half of his suit had been broken before the snap and he still snapped it and ended his life to kill thanos bcz he might've not have another chance
Always loved how smart any AI made by Tony was. Even Friday was, 5:40 when antman was inside his suit, tony just goes "Friday!?", all panicked. Friday is smart enough to recognize that, figure out why he is distressed, and then come up with her own solution and apply it since tony was too panicked to think on the fly. Imagine if ChatGPT was that smart...
You know that Jarvis, Monday, Thursday, ..., Friday all are the same AI and he only changed the personality, which is very ease to do, ask chat gpt to ask as a little girl from 1800s and he will do it
Love that after his defeat with Cap, he added melee weapons, but not only that, he proved that his fighting skills even gave Thanos trouble which means he trained with them before even using them for real, it really shows that Tony doesn’t make the same mistake twice.
Wait bro his Main Focus is Bucky and if he wants he will win at that moment Imagine he sleeps Hulk...can't he make sleep to cap 😏😂 1 v2 don't forget it
Also; because he couldn't reach Rhodes in time when he fell, in infinity war he made a giant jet booster so he can fly faster. Because in Iron man 3 he ended up unarmed without his suit, in civil war he made a watch that turns into a weaponized glove if he didn't have his suit. Because in Iron man 2 warmachine got hacked, Tony programmed more artifical intelligences and upgraded Jarvis's AI, resulting in Jarvis stopping Ultron's attempts to hack nuclear codes. (didn't stop Ned and Peter from hacking into the spiderman suit though)
I don't know how smart Ned is supposed to be, but Peter is among the smarter people of the Marvel universe. He's not at the absolute top, but he's definitely somewhere on the genius level. Dude makes his own gadgets (except in the MCU), constantly calculates how and where to swing throughout NY city so he gains max velocity and doesn't hit anyone and is frequently seen assisting other scientists putting their projects together. Peter is insanely smart. If he put his mind to it, he could definitely figure out how to hack an Iron Man suit in a matter of hours.
@@Xylarxcode ned is the snartest person to ever exist in the mcu universe he becomes unstoppable after saying his catch phrase which is "its nedin' time"
I like to think number 8 also contributed to his addition of the speed booster seen in Infinity War- because he wasn't fast enough to catch Rhodes. And the Nanotech worked to easily recover important protective sections- like the helmet, previously ripped off by Steve- now quickly rebuilt with Nanotech as shown when Thanos also tried to destroy his helmet.
I like how as soon as tony realised rhodes wasn’t pulling out of the fall he was in, he turned around and went full blast towards him to try and catch him
I like how he doesn’t realize the flying thing can shut down any moment and you can die from free fall 😂 that should be number one thing he should’ve designed. Tony Stark technology is only as good as the movie plot needs. My university teacher was constructing flying car in Slovakia, it was prototype with folding wings. And guess what can happen when you testing flying thing that no one tested ever before, it can have failure and fall. So he installed parachute, and during one test flight the prototype failed and was falling uncontrollably , that parachute saved his life. He is definitely smarter than Stark and his character writers 😂😊
Probably the best one is that during Infinity War, he struggled to take the stones from Thanos. In Endgame, he added a feature both in the suit and the gauntlet to ensure an easy snatch should it be necessary
That is because Iron Gauntlet have the same tech as his nanotechnology suit in Endgame so the interaction between them is super easy (just like how Peter control Doc Ock tentacles after it absorb a part of nanotech), while Infinity Gauntlet need him to manually remove it from Thanos hand.
Another one from Civil War to Infinity War, his missiles no longer needed to be launched from his forearm, because Bucky pushed it away, and his targeting was tracked to his eyes, because it was knackered in Civil War.
This absolutely can't be right. According to Strange.. Tony didn't know he was going to make that sacrifice right up until the moment. Why couldn't strange tell Tony what to do and mess up the only winnable timeline if Tony was already committed to the idea. You can't have him make a spur of the moment sacrifice and have it be something he prepared for. #micdrop
this video made me realize the connection between cap saying “take off the suit, what are you?” and stark telling peter “if you’re nothing without the suit then you don’t deserve it”
That was also kind of like a subplot of Ironman 3, he was having anxiety from PTSD so he'd rely on making his suits to fight, but then when he breaks down and is left without his suit/tries to fix it but it's not charged when he needs it; he has to fight without it using his wits and stuff he could find at a home improvement store. The lesson he learns in Ironman 3, he teaches to Peter in Homecoming.
I like Iron Man, peak definition of an evolving genius, a problem solver and an improver. There’s even a comic where he switched places with Doom and basically had to start from zero and guess what? He still rose to the top through his intellect.
he is only as genius as plot needs, many times his decisions are super stupid and illogical so they serve the plot. At the end it’s always just simple comics.
@@_______-3007 that's just pure plot armor for Joker there bc at this point in history Joker would be either dead or incarcerated for the rest of his life
Something I really like is how half the upgrades are Mk50 using nanotech because it's not only the ultiment optimisation of the suit, but it's also used to it's fully capacity as well. Every else in the MCU post endgame treats it like a gimmick for their mask, but Stark uses the tech to not only solve every flaw in his previous suits, but also constantly reconfigure the nanites in his suit to push every attack he makes against thanos to it's full capacity in real time. His kicks are given triple the weight, his punches four times the force. His rockets have nearly unlimited capacity, and even with nanites being inherently weaker than outright steel, it gives him several options for use once they begin to be depleted, which thanos uses to stab him being the genius he also is. Even his shield is essentially infinite being Wakandan and holographic. On top of the layered visuals, THIS is how you do nanotech: it both optimises and removes flaws from previous technology, and improves upon all of it's uses. It's a third class option besides typical steel being stronger but more inconvienient and hybrids being a mix of real material and nanotech.
I’ll always love how Tony’s drive to improve helps him punch far above his weight. Even in infinity war, Tony lasts longer fighting Thanos than Captain Marvel in Endgame. Tony knows his limits, so he fights with all he has, but Carol gets cocky and ends up KO’ed. Stark survived the power stone, but she did not, and I think that’s some great visual storytelling
Another cool detail for Rhodey's fall: He fell because the suit's power source (the chest thing) got damaged, In Tony's more recent suits, you can see a main power source in his chest and many smaller sources on his arms and legs. This not only boosts the suits' weapons, but also keeps it powered if the main source fails.
I really appreciate that the second Iron legion were no longer suits. Them being suits was their main problem, since that forced them to be hollow and lighter, allowing for less durability and space for computing software. Him making them fully robotic completely solved that problem
Okay this was a great fucking video. No bullshit “HEY what’s going on guys?!” intro, no commentary throughout, no ad breaks. Just straight to the point. And it was actually very cool to see, I never noticed the growth in Tony’s weaponry in this way. 10/10 bro.
I'm sure it's been said but, I really appreciate the fact that they took the time to implement these changes in the MCU without most of the audience realizing the significance behind these upgrades. I think we just chalk it up to him being a world class inventor and he's always improving on his creations.
I mean it is the mark 85 and this man is an inventor and innovator it would be even more strange to see that he doesn’t build upon his flaws like an architect improving on previous designs
@@cocoearmuffs6207 I just meant that these are improvements that most likely the majority of the audience doesn't consider when watching the Marvel movies.
The thing I love about this is that it's not spoonfed to us! We find out on our own that he learns from his mistakes If Iron Man was made learning from his mistakes NOW, they would have him vocally telling us
What I love about Tony’s ability to constantly make up for his errors, is that it’s the mainly the opposite of how Cap and Thor handle their mistakes. Thor is devastated whenever he screws up and takes a long time to get over it, while Cap as especially shown in Civil War struggles even accepting or facing his mistakes and poor choices until its too late. It makes sense for Tony the most flawed and “human” of the trio, to be the one that deals with his mistakes the best.
Of you think about it this actually makes sense, as Thor takes lomg time to get over things because his life Is way longer and has more time to think about his errors, while Cap Is a man from the 40s and still partially has the stubborn mentality of the time
@@antonioesposito9878 You’ve hit the nail on the head with Cap, he’s so straightforward that he struggles dealing with complicated matters like the Starks’ murder, I feel he didn’t tell Tony because in his mind Tony is essentially a civilian and shouldn’t be part of the Hydra affairs. Steve has got almost tribal mentality which I don’t like.
Cap makes few mistake and doesn't have to upgrade his suits or weapons because cap is more of an ideological figure. There isn't stuff he can or should change because cap represents what is supposed to be the best of American values. Compared to Tony who is in simple terms a mechanic. The fixer upper who constantly is trying to make his inventions better. Their purposes are very different, Tony is what human can constantly evolve to be and shows improvement while cap is supposed to be the ideal.
@@DavidElendu ah yes the ideal values for humans. Keeping information about who actually murdered your best friends parents, and then fighting alongside that individual. Yeah those are the ideas we should all strive toward 🤦♂️😂
A lot of people underestimate Stark, but there's a reason he's one of the most important Avengers; he's a genius with an incredible capacity to build on his knowledge. You only get one chance to beat him and if you don't, he comes back better and stronger.
@@y79iu28 ur right no one underestimates him NOW cus of the shit he’s done. But in the beginning people most definitely underestimated him💀there r literally moments in the video of him being underestimated LITERALLY IN THE BEGINNING BRO😭😭😭
Yeah, except you would think Stark would have the common sense and intelligence to put a parachute in a HIGH SPEED FLYING SUIT. Rhodey’s injury was totally preventable.
In the first Iron Man movie, before Tony revealed his identity, his suit was equipped with a voice changer until later at the end, revealing himself that he is Iron Man and thought that it was not necessary to have one anymore. In Spider-Man Homecoming, Tony thought it would be useful for Peter to have and use a voice changer to protect his identity when he is gifting him his new suit. The voice changer was used in one scene where Peter failed (almost) to interrogate someone. I thought it was kind of a cool small detail and that Tony would really want to protect other people's identity when trying out his gear.
I just realized during the icing problem, Tony was falling from a large height and was telling JARVIS to deploy flaps. He learned from that mistake and had automatically deployable flaps for when his suit lost power which was shown during his fall from space.
I'm pretty sure those were not flaps, but disposable booster rockets, like that on a NASA space shuttle. Tony's flaps also had a manual release which is why he didn't just die from terminal velocity the first time.
@@grungyemu I guess it’s a flaw on Tony’s part. It’s possible that the flaps couldn’t deploy without power. Or he just went past it completely and got boosters to get to terminal velocity faster. Thanks for the insight 👍🏻
@@1st2nd2 computers don't like the extreme heat or cold. If it's too hot they melt, and if it's too cold then they can't move, and shut down. If the suit's motherboard housing got ice on it (due to faulty design bc it was the first suit) then the whole thing would have shut down from below freezing temperatures. But if moisture was able to get in anyways that would be a bigger problem.
He didn't just learn to add trackers because he was captured by the 10 rings, he also learned to stop participating in the Military Industrial Complex by not selling weaponry anymore. RIP Yinsen
I may be 1 year late but hey, Tony learned from his mistakes and put protection to Peter’s AND he made sure that Peter wouldnt experience the things that happened to HIM.
Everyone's talking about Tony but can we take a second to appreciate the writers and designers. That is such an incredible amount of care and detail that really sells Tony as this hyper genius that completely went over a lot of our heads. I've been watching the MCU for decade now but never once noticed any of these things, yet they not only knew about this trend but also took great care to constantly keep it going, even if a significant portion of the audience would never even notice. That is just solid film making right there.
Glad someone commented this. So many Marvel fans keep d-riding the superheroes and it’s kinda weird. Tony’s a genius because it’s a made up world where he was written as such and RDJ did a great job. I guess everyone gets enamored by the story or somethin
Tony’s engineering progress is so relatable, Obviously on an exponentially different level but every engineer I’ve known builds things, goes head first into it, something bad happens, next time around that problem is fixed. It sounds simply redundant but it’s so hilariously accurate.
engineers still can't build restaurant kitchens where the damn floor slopes into the drain.. every single F******ing time.... every time cleaning is required, you have to squeegee the water INTO the drains ... always...
I fixed your comment: "Tony's process of using mistakes to improve future designs is what makes him so relatable to real world engineers in spite of the huge technology gap."
Iron man's my favorite avenger. This video brings me memories from the past when Marvel movies were the best thing on earth, with well made characters that have progressions, and also with good and engaging stories and script
Great video but you missed the best one! In Infinity War his big mistake was not getting the gauntlet off Thanos fast enough. In Endgame at the very end he removes just the stones, not the whole gauntlet, showing he learnt from this mistake! Fun fact in that moment he “shook” just the stones free instead of “pulling” the whole gauntlet, he was taking the last words of advice his father ever gave him, earlier in the movie, to heart “Shake that don’t pull it” Just another reason that final scene with Tony and Thanos is masterful!
I assumed he was able to pull the stones directly because his suit's nanotech interacted with the nanotech gauntlet whereas he couldn't do that with the gauntlet the dwarves made.
He literally took all his past mistakes that would have cost him his life and implemented them into Peter's suits, he really actually cares about him. Pretty wholesome stuff
The only problem is him caring about Peter. Just never seemed natural too forced and Tim Drake debutish where it handled like an insert for the audience I'm the worst of ways.
@@aurahoneydew9607 He cared so much cuz Peter is the next Generation of Superheroes needed. Superheroes are needed for peace, for everyone and his beloved daughter's future
This is why I love Tony Stark so much. He's a character that had mistakes, but learned from them. There's even more that weren't mentioned in this video.
@@hollykm He keeps making suits that take less and less time to put on, from the 2nd suit from Iron Man I, to the briefcase suit in Iron Man II, to the flying suits in Iron Man III, to the nanotech, and probably even more than I missed.
He also had issues with his firing mechanism when Bucky was about to escape through the middle silo. So in accordance to this he made missiles that fire independently and targeted specific things.
@@xsisty999 yes but his helmet still calculated the trajectory. What they are saying is that each and every missles now can track and target independently. With or without the helmet tracking.
That was something I really like about the concept of a superhero like Iron Man. He finds his limits. Whether through outside action, floundering about, curiosity, any other reason, he finds what the shortcomings of the suit is, and works to overcome it. A very scientific approach to a ""science"" based superhero. Like, other supers tend to reach limits by facing a bad guy stronger than them then they believe in friendship or something. But Iron Man is just "oh weird, this happens, let's make it so it doesn't happen again".
@@shariqhasan6220 "Take that suit away, what are you?" "Genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist." Honestly agree, both have the superpowers of Money and Brains. In a straight-up matchup though... if we're talking "suits on, maximum power potential" Death Battle style, Stark wins, no contest, because the World's Greatest Detective wouldn't have enough prep time to counter every single gadget of the World's Greatest Scientist (who doesn't even have to get in range of any of Batman's gear). In a 1v1 fisticuffs _without_ any "wonderful toys"? Batman would likely win due to all the martial arts training.
One thing this guy missed was the part when Loki threw him off of Stark Tower. In Endgame, the same thing happened, but since the suit basically is part of him, it was a quicker process
In my opinion, one of the best ways that Tony learned from his mistakes was when he temporarily took Peter's suit in Homecoming. I interpreted that as Tony recognizing the way that he unhealthily dedicated a large portion of his life to the suit, hero lifestyle, and the title of Iron-Man. Tony saw alot of himself in Peter, so when Peter told him that he was nothing without the suit, he automatically refused to let the Spider-Man mantle lead Peter down the same devastating paths that he went through.
True. The best way telling someone who learning from their mistakes was them ensuring that someone else wouldn't go down the same path as them. Peter was special for him sure, but should he encounter some random kid that have the same problem that Tony had, he would probably help/teach that kid regardless. Tony is a good man after all.
If that said he's probably on the way to make a suit durable to not kill a human snapping with all the infinity stones somewhere. Robert really did the character justice.
@@donnycorn3086 thats probably not happening due to the fact that *he's fuckin dead* but pepper pots will soon shine in one movie and build some suit made from nano tech capable of withstanding the stones, that being said. Maybe thanos will come back, or maybe there's some other MCU character that we don't know about that is capable of wielding these stones.
He was also willing to do absolutely anything to bring back everyone after the snap, so he made it possible to wield the stones in his suit just in case he had to be that guy.
He literally did make a new Infinity Gauntlet from Nanotech, so decided as well to incorporate those materials(same material for Mjolnir) into his suit. Perhaps loaned knowledge and materials from the singular surviving dwarf smith.
I love the video!! So unique!! One suggestion for a update, i don´t remember in what movie, Tony and Peter were inside a limousine and Tony looks like he's hugging Peter but he's just open the door. In ENDGAME, when Peter come back, Tony hug him like a son.
Also, after Cap defeated him by destroying his arc reactor, he made every following suit have multiple arc reactors. A main core one on the chest, and multiple small ones along the rest of the body of the suit including limbs.
@@Hardware1906 maybe those small arc reactors are like extensions to help boost the powers on the repulsors and help distribute the power throughout the body Maybe the later suits after 46-47 tony incorporated self powered mini arc reactors around the body so they power each part as to just powering them from a single source
Nope. MK46 had multiple reactors throughout his body. They were supplementary. Which is why it couldn’t fully power for weapons, but enough for him to actually move around in it when his main reactor was damaged. Otherwise he wouldn’t have been able to move at all
iron man is a flagship and a gem of the MCU. i hope they will bring iron man back on screens at some form without ruining him. pepper or their daughter will be a good choice.
I love how Tony's power is not only that he has a cool suit and does things, but how he fails, learns, and gets right back at it. Also how he is brave enough to go into a melee fight with one of the strongest people in the universe.
And this was possibly his first use of melee weapons on an Iron Man suit. It was cool how in Civil War, that Fitbit that gave him an Iron Glove was kinda like a prototype for Nanotech. It had a tiny Arc reactor in it, folded out into sufficient armoring (enough to stop a bullet at point blank), and was more reliant on suppression instead of direct attacks. So I feel like both expanding on that glove idea, and after fighting Steve, lead to the Mark 50
Absolutely, Iron man is powerful because of the suit, sure. but the man behind the suit is why he's a hero. He made thanos bleed, something that not even literal gods could accomplish. While thanos kind of mocked him by saying "all that for a drop of blood", the fact that he survived on his own for long enough to even get an opportunity to make him bleed shows just how strong Iron man really was.
I love how tony fixed most of his mistakes with Peter, it’s shows how much he cares, tony maybe called the most selfish billionaire but the sacrifices he made alone shows otherwise
@primepal6001 nothing really changed i think for cap. he stayed the same way. he has principles and moral characters. the only thing that changed about him is his perception of stark. He witnessed Iron Man sacrifice himself over and over again from Avengers 1 to Endgame.
Cap changed more than you think. Check out the cinematherapy Captain America if you don’t believe me. Also, Tony really should’ve added the parachute in after the icing incident. Rody’s accident kind of sealed the deal.
Even when he added melee weaponry to his suit to counter skilled hand to hand combat opponents like Cap and Thanos, he also added the ability for his suit to regenerate it helmet after his fight with Cap, but of course that already came wit him just upgrading his suit.
@@tysonwilliam1722 Awwww man! That would just put that “My suit is more advanced than your in every way!” Line to more and more shame! Obadiah wouldn’t last 5 seconds!
tony was brilliant, because he learnt, he struggled, he tried, and he was so, so far from perfect. he was arrogant, difficult, selfish, and even at the hight of his growth and development those traits never fully went away. and the handling of his mental illness (ESPECIALLY him genuinely believing he was dying during his anxiety attack) was so incredibly real
instead of this, we have shehulk shaking her ass and people still call it character development my favorite quotes from thanos: "reality is often disappointing"
People these days really love to write detailed essays about og characters with years of buildup then summarize a new gen unlikeable mc with a 5-10 second post credit scene.
When the MCU had actual good writers not what they currently have who are focused on political messaging and not story telling. Ironman was the best character in the MCU it wasn’t even close, his character arc was amazing
Yup. It's wild how lackluster these movies have become. They seem to have hit their peak. There are some outliers but I think it's over but hey nothing lasts forever.
@@John-Doe-Yo they replaced him with iron heart, no character building, no motivation, no tech building, she’s just better than iron man at everything immediately. Nah I’m done with the M-she-u
I miss him because he was a man who wasn't perfect, always learned from his mistakes and worked harder and made things better, I am glad that he wasn't like the ones Marvel creates now...oh he is so perfect... Is super powerful and doesn't make any mistakes...
One that I noticed is how in Age of Ultron, Ultron easily was able to get his AI into Tony’s Iron Defenders. After that, he likely updated the AI of his suits further to keep anything, not even rogue AI, from being able to hack into his suits. While he never showed anything of the sort, Spider-Man in No Way Home has nano-bots removed from his suit by Doc Ock and he just assumed that it’s a free upgrade for him, but NOPE. His arms no longer responded to him and were taken control of instead.
yep but this update never made it to spider man suite XD Remember when Ned hacked the spidey suit with a laptop in a hotel room ?... Or that mysterio "hacked" the drones system ( not really hack but you have the security system of one of the most powerful weapon on the planet, not capable or recognizing a stark ex employee or simply just recognizing a wrong command when mysterio order the drone to kill Peter...
@@Alice.59 peter had a literal onesie, It can't move around on its own the way iron man's suits can so I don't think Tony put those extra precautions on it. And I know what you mean by mysterio but just to hammer that nail too... He didnt even have to hack anything he was given control with Peter's voice command
So this is how it feels like to witness a person's growth trough trials and error in real time and actually applied their mistakes for better solutions. Because in movies, and even in real life, most often people just repeats their mistakes. But to be able to witness his character development and growth, and being considered the person who grew so much in the last last decade, its making me proud to witness such character!
Lee took a challange to create the most hated character and change him from issue to issue ... everyone can relate to Tony. (even if we not that rich nor smart)
Definitely Tony Stark and Robert D. Jr. made the best match to show character developed, it's relatable thanks to the irl factors of the actor and the scriptwriters.
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"I nearly died twice in space."
"My army wasn't strong enough."
"I lost someone to a high fall."
*"Tennessee's weather sucks."*
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plate of fate
Yeah, it does
Tennessee weather does suck
why are you here plates of fate guy
"Lost to a guy on steroids with a salad plate" I FUCKIN LOST IT! LMFAO
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🤣🤣🤣i was like wtf
Me too lmfao
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That has to be the most Tony Stark description of Cap I've ever heard.
"Lost to a guy on steroids with a salad plate" pure comedy gold 🤣
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That thing would actually make a great plate. You can never break it over stupid shit 😂😂
Stark was the embodiment of _"Know your limits, but don't limit yourself"_
"know yours limits,but don't limit yourself"
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not at all, he was limited by plot and his stupid decisions 🤷 but hey its still comics, so who cares
@@rawwadYou seem like you'd be fun at parties.
The fact that Tony took three of these mistakes from his life and added as a precautionary measure in Peter's suit after one month of knowing him just showed how much he really cared about him.
nah bro, its because he learned from his mistakes
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y'all need to chill, this comment is satireee
Or that he's you know, smart?
He didn’t cared about Peter Parker.
He just didn’t wanted to have an endless guilt trip if something happened to a Minor in his team.
He did it to fix his own mistakes, and every time builds a new suit, he will always applies it
@@SuperG4ndo a picture with pete literally pushed him to solve the time travelling issue.
Back when character development was a crucial point of the plot. Tony was a genius, and geniuses don't tolerate failures.
They turn it into a learning opportunity
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Yeah. Meaning he truly is a genius.
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Well to be fair, _he _*_did_* tolerate _some_ failures... when it came to taking care of him and his emotional and personal needs...
He wasn't about to fail everyone else... not again...
In some cases, geniuses also despise perfection!
One thing a lot of people miss is that during Age of Ultron, the Hulkbuster couldnt slow down the Hulk. So when he built the nano suit, he added more power and more blasters. When his arc reactor was taken out of his chest in the first film, he started adding individual ones to each bit of tech. When he realized that having each piece of the suit fly to him was too unreliable, he made the nano suit so its always with him. During the attack on his mansion, he couldnt aim the rocket in his suit. So he made them auto targeting in the nano suit. And finally, in the first movie, when hes fixing up his hand repulsor, he accidently fires it and realizes it can also be a weapon not just flight stabilizers. Everyone tends to view him as just the guy with money and tech, but hes really the epitomy of always learning from his mistakes. He always grows from his failures. Its why hes one of my favorites
iron man is more than just a suit
@@ovencake523 Best example is when i think it was Cap ask him what he is without his suit.
@@ovencake523 Im not saying he isnt, I merely was pointing out more examples of his ability to constantly adapt and grow.
that nanosuit was just lazy writing, basically all the stark later technology and his decision making was stupid, especially if he supposed to be genius or something
@@matthewbush3360 oh no i was agreeing with you
iron man is innovation and genius, growth from failure etc. more than just a suit
Another one was the addition of multiple smaller backup arc reactors on all suits after the mark 46 including the iron spider suit and subsequent war machine armours. It proved extremely useful in the event the main chest reactor is destroyed or damaged.
It was another way of ensuring that the suit could continue to basic function in a fight or at least slow a fall in the case of Rhodey's incident in civil war.
I was just thinking about that! I think the first ones must have appeared in Iron Man 3, like Mark 42, who is capable of dividing itself, and also pepper was able to shoot Killian using an arm from the Mark 8, but it's not clear as in Civil War, when he uses a bracelet powered by a mini reactor when he tried to stun Bucky, and the mini reactors are very visible in the Mark 46 armor and subsequent.
The mini arc reactors, is that what all those small dots of light are on the newer suits?
@@TheRealKosmicKing likely yes
Did war machine get any update by Tony after IM2 or was it the army? because I don't remember war machine having mini ark reactors. 🤔
@@metoddsofafall that was Tony
"Lost to a guy on steroid with his salad plate" this had me laughing to the core 🤣🤣🤣
i'm finding this comment 😂😂😂😂
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Hahaha same!
Yaa
It annoyed me
Everyone is talking about how amazing stark is and how he was beautifully written. No one is talking about the "Lost to a guy on steroids with a salad plate"
cus thats true, cap got the most plot armor out of them all
I still say he won that fight despite it being 2V1. And it would've stayed that way were Bucky actually as unconscious as he should have been.
@@benjaminmalaihollo7823 facts. He is supposed to be peak human and I get his shield does a lot of the heavy lifting but when he was gettibg rag dolled by Thanos I was like "how have his bones not snapped like twigs?". Thor can take it and Iron Man with his OP trch, but Cap was in there like his hits wouldn't feel like a toddler flailing at Thanos
Laughed my ass off on this one😂
@@bluecanine3374 supersoldier serum also is nt spiderman stronger in the comics?
I love that Tony was impressed that his own improvement took a lightning bolt without failing him
Tony really heard the “fool me once” quote and decided he was never gonna lose a rematch
I would add another one: in Infinity war Tony tries to steal the Infinity Gauntlet from Thanos, but he fails; in Endgame he only steals the stones.
We don't talk about him and infinity stones >:C
That happened because the glove is made from stack tech too, but I guess making a glove that can use infinity stones may count as him learning from Thanos tough
@@erculanocarvalhosantosfilh7861 You could say "learning from..." and add any other guy he fights in these scenes. Thanos, Ant Man, Cap, etc.
I think the infinity stones were literally bonded to the infinity gauntlet (from dwarven magic or whatever) and he could get FRIDAY to move the nano-tech holding the stones into his gauntlet.
Holy cow,Brilliant!!!!!
I love how Tony made the whole power absorption mechanic as more of a safety precaution at first, but after Thor shocked him with that bolt in Avengers 1 and accidentally powered up the suit, Tony basically said "let's make this bug into a feature" and made a conduit specifically for Thor on the suit's back
Mojang in a nutshell
Basically, yeah. If it's beneficial to the user, it's not a bug. Especially when it can be combined with an external force to really kick ass!
Source: I made it up
@@phishticks3536 what sources do you fucking need it's all pretty on the nose
Iron Man works at bethesda???
Two points that were missed here: In Age Od Ultron the Hulkbuster’s repulsers weren’t powerful enough to keep the Hulk at bay forcing him to fight hand to hand, so in Infinity War his nanotech suit has significantly more ranged firepower to keep enemies like Coal Obsidian away. And in relation to Rodey falling, Tony’s flight systems weren’t fast enough to catch him so in Infinity War he upgraded them to have a higher top speed. Because Tony learns from his mistakes.
Marvel was something else back then
You gotta love how most mistakes he learnt from were added to Peter’s suit. He wants Peter to be better than himself.
Peter: "I'm sorry I..I just wanted to be like you."
Tony: "...and I wanted you to be better."
-Spiderman: Homecoming
i would say something different,but i will let Tony say it instead:"And if you die,i think that´s on me.And i don´t need that on my conscience."
more like he was smart not to expect peter to be smart or durable on his own
And that's how peter doesn't learn anything hahaha
@@mysticdawn2690 that’s wat no way home’s ending was about and I’m sure the next upcoming ones are going to be about it too I’m sure :)
This really goes to show that genius isn't about knowing everything, it's about learning and adapting
"The only way to become a real genius, is to work day and night."
@@senny- "Sadly not everyone is equal, some people are genius and some people don't. And just a genius can recognize themselves as one, and I am something of a genius myself!"
- Emperor Nero "Waifu" Claudio.
Tell that to those who wrote Riri Williams into the MCU.
@Ty sadly they won't listen.
@@ty194 I never heard of her until this comment so i looked it up and i'm pissed. I'm fairly neutral on woke vs cancel. I see valid points AND problems on both sides.
This is the problem i see with the ultra woke, SJW side. Shove it in people's throats, they WILL reject it. And for good cause. Black Panther did race in the MCU right IMO. It was there, it's woven into the story and plot just like real life. Rhodey was kinda the token black guy but with C'hacala there was some depth and it wasn't forced. It made sense. It was organic
Sam Wilson as Cap makes sense too. I can support that. Bucky is there too. And that dealt with race. It paralleled our own history with race and racism. They DID test shit on black service-members. And only a few generations later, we had a black president. And I supported him. Best president of my life time by far.
But this.... i do not like this. America is over 80% caucasian (about 60% non-hispanic white). It's about 13% black.
Quit trying to shoehorn elements that don't make sense. It makes perfect sense that the team would be diverse and they ARE. They have a robot! They had two 90+ yr olds! Multiple immigrants. Shrimp boat captain turned air force pilot or whatever Sam was. Idk where Rhodey from.
This just shows how much the Writers actually cared about Iron Man
and about mcu in general
This is before the woke ere MCU
Another great improvement was in Iron Man 2 with the final fight Tony takes down a whole crowd of the army drones by using that high powered laser and he tells Roadie "It's too bad I could only use it once." Then by the first Avengers movie he's using the same laser to weld metal together and take down those flying aliens. I always thought that part was well done, where he found a way to use his dad's age old technology and adapt it to the modern day.
I felt he could have used that laser to defeat Thanos.
@@dejirichard4307 Thanos was much more resilient and stronger for the laser to kill him, also if Tony didn't use it again is because the energy of his palms also got stronger, something that is not mentioned in the video is that after facing War Machine and seeing that his powers could be surpassed even by his old technology, Tony made his energy armament from the arc reactor more powerful, thus making it stronger.
"lost to a guy on steroids with a salad plate " kept me dying
I almost thought no one way going to talk about that. That was worth watching this to the end. 🤣
Bro I was about comment about this
I think part of it was because normally Tony is trying to do actual damage/kill his enemies - but how tf is he gonna do that with Cap? he’s just in pain and lashing out but he’s not trying to murder him
Actual npc conversation
i mean...hes not wrong
The writers did an awesome job with details in all the movies really. But the attention to Tony's drive to keep testing his limits and failing is perfect. He's always thinking about tomorrow's improvements and yesterday's mistakes.
That's how he created Ultron. That was the whole point of that movie. Then from Ultron he created Vision along with Thor.
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Tomorrows improvements and yesterdays mistakes!! To was definitely a present thanks to u!!
Yesterday's mistake was ultron But tomorrow's improvement is Vision ❤
Honestly I feel like the entirety of MCU was Tony Stark’s story.
He was so intertwined in everything that the MCU without him feels like when your favorite sitcom tried to replace the main character with someone else… all the ingredients are still there, it should feel relatively the same… but it just doesn’t.
I really like the one with cap.
Tony realized that no matter how advanced his armor is, if he gets in close quarters, someone like cap, who can react faster, hit harder, take more punishment, and has hand to hand knowledge will always beat him. Friday outright says that Tony can’t beat Steve hand to hand.
So to fix this he gives himself melee weapons and upgrades that let him trap an opponents arms or legs, allowing him to fight back should his enemies close in.
And close quarters has always been something he’s struggled with until then. Every time an enemy gets close enough to put their hands on him, he’s at a disadvantage and usually has to rely on his repulsors to knock them back so he can fire at them.
He even already in Civil War had some measures against that like having the AI analyze the fight pattern, after that it was Bucky distracting him for a moment, not that Steve beat him with pure 1v1.
Yeah he beat cap if it wasn’t for Bucky That wasn’t the correction he needed He was whooping his ass.😂
i still think Tony won that 2v1, bucky was in the floor almost dead and cap was almost the same, just that the plot armor on cap made tony distract for a sec
for example before cap destroyed the arc reactor, tony could have blasted his face off with the chest repulsor
True, but Tony was really just prepping for a 2v1 like bucky and cap did. he really won that fight with cap lol
Quick Correction: No. 4 isn't a mistake, his suit was always space compatible, he just ran out of power. In the whole fight he kept saying JARVIS to save power, and when he was taking missile to the space he told JARVIS to use all the power the suit had. It hwasn't space condition problem.
One of the Proofs that the suit was indeed Space Compatible is that Tony didn't die of Radiation, Lack of Pressure or whatever else could have killed him up there
I thought Mark 7 is space compatible, but then he was in deep space because of the portal. There wasn't any our galaxy's planets
Agreed, Tony was already planning to go to space since MK3, but JARVIS said the exoskeleton still needs improving before spaceflight was safe and possible.
I thought the biggest problem in that scene is that JARVIS' functionality within the suit was dependent on stable sattelite connection. This means all targeting systems, data intelligence, and navigation are offline the moment he's in outer space. The ones that do function are his life support and auxillary functions. This is why he later made the suits to have independent systems capable of complex independent computations, which was how the first iron legion was created.
His suit was only LEO compatible, not deep space compatible. The portal has leaked earth air into space, that’s why Tony didn’t die.
The biggest improvement he ever made to his suits was increasing the speed at which he could put them on. His first suit took so long to put on and start that Yinsen died. So each of the following suits where subsequently made easier and faster to put on. He believed he failed Yinsen, and strove to never make that mistake again.
the last suit could be held in the palm of his hand and took a single second to put on
In one of the comics the nanosuit is stored in his bones and comes out of his skin pores
@@SkyFireYZ Extremis if I recall, he had to take it to fight somebody who had also taken it.
@@SkyFireYZ that sounds horrible
@Winter Gaming he is very proud of Tony and now they are together again inventing again creating even better suits together.
He went from building a suit that couldn't withstand frost to making a nanotech suit that could harness the power of the Universe.
Then dying with said suit on BY HIMSELF, AND IN THE COOLEST WAY POSSIBLE, aka infinty stones
Had he survived he could probably make a suit that can do the snap and complete withstand it
@@david95ms in the comics he did make an infinity suit and pretty much challenged God I think
@@dabois8280 his nanotech suit could've protected him from the damage of those stones but he died bcz half of his suit had been broken before the snap and he still snapped it and ended his life to kill thanos bcz he might've not have another chance
@@Foottube710 yes that is what happened in the movie. I'm talking about the full gold suit in the comics
Always loved how smart any AI made by Tony was. Even Friday was, 5:40 when antman was inside his suit, tony just goes "Friday!?", all panicked. Friday is smart enough to recognize that, figure out why he is distressed, and then come up with her own solution and apply it since tony was too panicked to think on the fly. Imagine if ChatGPT was that smart...
You know that Jarvis, Monday, Thursday, ..., Friday all are the same AI and he only changed the personality, which is very ease to do, ask chat gpt to ask as a little girl from 1800s and he will do it
This is why he’ll always be one of my favourite superheroes, he always learns from his mistakes and adapts to the situations
Love that after his defeat with Cap, he added melee weapons, but not only that, he proved that his fighting skills even gave Thanos trouble which means he trained with them before even using them for real, it really shows that Tony doesn’t make the same mistake twice.
If I remember well, mark 33 already had melee weapons.
@@diluerdaigle6212 in which movie was mk 33?
@@vil_727 iron man 3, its the red suit with a retract mini sword, he uses to cut the killian's arm off
Wait bro his Main Focus is Bucky and if he wants he will win at that moment
Imagine he sleeps Hulk...can't he make sleep to cap 😏😂
1 v2 don't forget it
You forgot to mention that after Rohdy fell, he added a system so the suit can work even with the chest power source disabled.
Also; because he couldn't reach Rhodes in time when he fell, in infinity war he made a giant jet booster so he can fly faster.
Because in Iron man 3 he ended up unarmed without his suit, in civil war he made a watch that turns into a weaponized glove if he didn't have his suit.
Because in Iron man 2 warmachine got hacked, Tony programmed more artifical intelligences and upgraded Jarvis's AI, resulting in Jarvis stopping Ultron's attempts to hack nuclear codes.
(didn't stop Ned and Peter from hacking into the spiderman suit though)
Tony should've hire ned
I don't know how smart Ned is supposed to be, but Peter is among the smarter people of the Marvel universe. He's not at the absolute top, but he's definitely somewhere on the genius level. Dude makes his own gadgets (except in the MCU), constantly calculates how and where to swing throughout NY city so he gains max velocity and doesn't hit anyone and is frequently seen assisting other scientists putting their projects together. Peter is insanely smart. If he put his mind to it, he could definitely figure out how to hack an Iron Man suit in a matter of hours.
@@Xylarxcode MCU Spiderman still designed his first web shooter and webbing, he had it back when Tony first met him in Civil War
@@kko9329 stark industries would have been unstoppable
@@Xylarxcode ned is the snartest person to ever exist in the mcu universe he becomes unstoppable after saying his catch phrase which is "its nedin' time"
I like to think number 8 also contributed to his addition of the speed booster seen in Infinity War- because he wasn't fast enough to catch Rhodes.
And the Nanotech worked to easily recover important protective sections- like the helmet, previously ripped off by Steve- now quickly rebuilt with Nanotech as shown when Thanos also tried to destroy his helmet.
I like how as soon as tony realised rhodes wasn’t pulling out of the fall he was in, he turned around and went full blast towards him to try and catch him
I like how he doesn’t realize the flying thing can shut down any moment and you can die from free fall 😂 that should be number one thing he should’ve designed. Tony Stark technology is only as good as the movie plot needs. My university teacher was constructing flying car in Slovakia, it was prototype with folding wings. And guess what can happen when you testing flying thing that no one tested ever before, it can have failure and fall. So he installed parachute, and during one test flight the prototype failed and was falling uncontrollably , that parachute saved his life. He is definitely smarter than Stark and his character writers 😂😊
Probably the best one is that during Infinity War, he struggled to take the stones from Thanos. In Endgame, he added a feature both in the suit and the gauntlet to ensure an easy snatch should it be necessary
That is because Iron Gauntlet have the same tech as his nanotechnology suit in Endgame so the interaction between them is super easy (just like how Peter control Doc Ock tentacles after it absorb a part of nanotech), while Infinity Gauntlet need him to manually remove it from Thanos hand.
Damn didn't think of that, also watching this whole video makes me unsurprised that 2018 Thanos respected (and maybe even feared) Tony
Another one from Civil War to Infinity War, his missiles no longer needed to be launched from his forearm, because Bucky pushed it away, and his targeting was tracked to his eyes, because it was knackered in Civil War.
This absolutely can't be right. According to Strange.. Tony didn't know he was going to make that sacrifice right up until the moment. Why couldn't strange tell Tony what to do and mess up the only winnable timeline if Tony was already committed to the idea. You can't have him make a spur of the moment sacrifice and have it be something he prepared for. #micdrop
That's because the material was both nanotech
this video made me realize the connection between cap saying “take off the suit, what are you?” and stark telling peter “if you’re nothing without the suit then you don’t deserve it”
He did also say Cap would've whopped him if he'd wanted despite what Bucky found out.
I didn't realize this connection till I read your comment and man does it sing volumes
That was also kind of like a subplot of Ironman 3, he was having anxiety from PTSD so he'd rely on making his suits to fight, but then when he breaks down and is left without his suit/tries to fix it but it's not charged when he needs it; he has to fight without it using his wits and stuff he could find at a home improvement store. The lesson he learns in Ironman 3, he teaches to Peter in Homecoming.
Cap was a stupid mf..
"Eeerrmm actally, Peter already had a parachute since he had the suit in civil war"
-🤓
I like Iron Man, peak definition of an evolving genius, a problem solver and an improver. There’s even a comic where he switched places with Doom and basically had to start from zero and guess what? He still rose to the top through his intellect.
he is only as genius as plot needs, many times his decisions are super stupid and illogical so they serve the plot. At the end it’s always just simple comics.
Rest in peace Iron Man, You were and still are the best!
He wasn't always prepared. He wasn't always right. His genius was about how he always learned from his mistakes.
unlike other genius human characters that make no mistakes and are ready for everything except stopping the joker from killing billions
@@_______-3007 that's just pure plot armor for Joker there bc at this point in history Joker would be either dead or incarcerated for the rest of his life
@@_______-3007 man aren't executions a thing? it's justice, approved by some governments why won't they execute joker as soon as joker gets captured
Technology is all about iterations
@@Iwillwinthis11 Because plot has to happen lol
Tony was insanely smart, for sure, but the real mark of intelligence is his ability to learn from his mistakes
A smart man is not always right. He just learns when he is wrong.
I feel like your referencing the RUclips short on Thanos killing Iron man
@@alejandrosalazar7358 I know what short you are talking about 😂
That's what differs Batman and Iron Man for me. Batman's preptime is about deduction and paranoia, Tony's preptime is mostly about past mistakes.
i think that's one of Einstein's
Something I really like is how half the upgrades are Mk50 using nanotech because it's not only the ultiment optimisation of the suit, but it's also used to it's fully capacity as well. Every else in the MCU post endgame treats it like a gimmick for their mask, but Stark uses the tech to not only solve every flaw in his previous suits, but also constantly reconfigure the nanites in his suit to push every attack he makes against thanos to it's full capacity in real time. His kicks are given triple the weight, his punches four times the force. His rockets have nearly unlimited capacity, and even with nanites being inherently weaker than outright steel, it gives him several options for use once they begin to be depleted, which thanos uses to stab him being the genius he also is. Even his shield is essentially infinite being Wakandan and holographic. On top of the layered visuals, THIS is how you do nanotech: it both optimises and removes flaws from previous technology, and improves upon all of it's uses. It's a third class option besides typical steel being stronger but more inconvienient and hybrids being a mix of real material and nanotech.
I’ll always love how Tony’s drive to improve helps him punch far above his weight. Even in infinity war, Tony lasts longer fighting Thanos than Captain Marvel in Endgame. Tony knows his limits, so he fights with all he has, but Carol gets cocky and ends up KO’ed. Stark survived the power stone, but she did not, and I think that’s some great visual storytelling
Stark was a fantastic representation of humanity, he had beliefs he valued, people he cared about, and evolved from every mistake he ran into
Except the mistake of being a dick.
But we still love him regardless.
And this is why people loves him the most
He was a capitalist.
Stark was a legend
@@shatterscape And? Rich people can't have feelings?
Another cool detail for Rhodey's fall: He fell because the suit's power source (the chest thing) got damaged, In Tony's more recent suits, you can see a main power source in his chest and many smaller sources on his arms and legs. This not only boosts the suits' weapons, but also keeps it powered if the main source fails.
Could also put this one together with the Cap fight since Cap powered down the suit with a chest strike
those are present in the same film
The chest power source is called the Arc reactor btw
@@manjuananthnadhajeesh3581 right, but you dont hear me saying "hold on, i gotta charge my lithium-ion"
In the First Iron Man movie, Tony fell in his prototype suit, and did not get anything broken. Why ? Because plot.
I really appreciate that the second Iron legion were no longer suits. Them being suits was their main problem, since that forced them to be hollow and lighter, allowing for less durability and space for computing software. Him making them fully robotic completely solved that problem
Okay this was a great fucking video. No bullshit “HEY what’s going on guys?!” intro, no commentary throughout, no ad breaks. Just straight to the point. And it was actually very cool to see, I never noticed the growth in Tony’s weaponry in this way. 10/10 bro.
I'm sure it's been said but, I really appreciate the fact that they took the time to implement these changes in the MCU without most of the audience realizing the significance behind these upgrades. I think we just chalk it up to him being a world class inventor and he's always improving on his creations.
I mean it is the mark 85 and this man is an inventor and innovator it would be even more strange to see that he doesn’t build upon his flaws like an architect improving on previous designs
Yeah, I could never figure out why he only thought to incorporate melee weapons at the very end of phase 3
@@cocoearmuffs6207 I just meant that these are improvements that most likely the majority of the audience doesn't consider when watching the Marvel movies.
The greatest inventors are often driven by a greater purpose. It's not just improvements, it's a sense of responsibility. Tony is 10/10.
And he was still barely enough for Thanos.
Iron Man is a prime example of how to write a character. Not like the recent MCU characters.
And Black widow is a prime example of how not to write a character.
@@Nopeasaurus why?
@@ronaldoucl i think that because a spider's (black widow) story is wasted, could be use more
@@Nopeasaurusher standalone film was a flaming pile of shit
Cause it started before disney
The thing I love about this is that it's not spoonfed to us! We find out on our own that he learns from his mistakes
If Iron Man was made learning from his mistakes NOW, they would have him vocally telling us
I miss this era of the MCU. So much.
What I love about Tony’s ability to constantly make up for his errors, is that it’s the mainly the opposite of how Cap and Thor handle their mistakes. Thor is devastated whenever he screws up and takes a long time to get over it, while Cap as especially shown in Civil War struggles even accepting or facing his mistakes and poor choices until its too late. It makes sense for Tony the most flawed and “human” of the trio, to be the one that deals with his mistakes the best.
Of you think about it this actually makes sense, as Thor takes lomg time to get over things because his life Is way longer and has more time to think about his errors, while Cap Is a man from the 40s and still partially has the stubborn mentality of the time
@@antonioesposito9878 You’ve hit the nail on the head with Cap, he’s so straightforward that he struggles dealing with complicated matters like the Starks’ murder, I feel he didn’t tell Tony because in his mind Tony is essentially a civilian and shouldn’t be part of the Hydra affairs.
Steve has got almost tribal mentality which I don’t like.
@@antonioesposito9878 Well, when one spends time as a Capcicle. LOL
Cap makes few mistake and doesn't have to upgrade his suits or weapons because cap is more of an ideological figure. There isn't stuff he can or should change because cap represents what is supposed to be the best of American values. Compared to Tony who is in simple terms a mechanic. The fixer upper who constantly is trying to make his inventions better. Their purposes are very different, Tony is what human can constantly evolve to be and shows improvement while cap is supposed to be the ideal.
@@DavidElendu ah yes the ideal values for humans. Keeping information about who actually murdered your best friends parents, and then fighting alongside that individual.
Yeah those are the ideas we should all strive toward 🤦♂️😂
A lot of people underestimate Stark, but there's a reason he's one of the most important Avengers; he's a genius with an incredible capacity to build on his knowledge. You only get one chance to beat him and if you don't, he comes back better and stronger.
no one underestimsates him what are you on about
@@y79iu28 ur right no one underestimates him NOW cus of the shit he’s done. But in the beginning people most definitely underestimated him💀there r literally moments in the video of him being underestimated LITERALLY IN THE BEGINNING BRO😭😭😭
@@y79iu28 before he started covering his weaknesses more and more, he was always underestimated for being a man in a tin can
Yeah, except you would think Stark would have the common sense and intelligence to put a parachute in a HIGH SPEED FLYING SUIT. Rhodey’s injury was totally preventable.
@Arcee
Yeah that whole thing honestly felt like plot device
This attention to detail makes me truly appreciate Tony as a character. Love his growth!!
Ironman and Batman are the most iconic and will-liked character of all time
Stands to show, not making mistakes isn’t what makes you better, learning from your mistakes is what truly makes you stronger
And after all - you die, like Tony 😂 (😢).
@@dasauser at least his death was not a mistake
Yeah, and Tony Stark left the mcu after realizing it was a mistake to begin with.
Make mistakes
Learning from other peoples mistakes so that you don’t make them in the first place is even better
In the first Iron Man movie, before Tony revealed his identity, his suit was equipped with a voice changer until later at the end, revealing himself that he is Iron Man and thought that it was not necessary to have one anymore.
In Spider-Man Homecoming, Tony thought it would be useful for Peter to have and use a voice changer to protect his identity when he is gifting him his new suit. The voice changer was used in one scene where Peter failed (almost) to interrogate someone.
I thought it was kind of a cool small detail and that Tony would really want to protect other people's identity when trying out his gear.
"I know what a girl sounds like"
keep in mind that someone isn't just anyone tho, it was prowler, miles morales's uncle
Too bad Peter apparently forgot to turn it on and only use it to interrogate once.
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It made him sound like Kylo Ren (just saying)
"Lost to a guy on steroids with a salad plate” 💀
“Lost to a guy on steroids with a salad plate” Just roasts Captain America without any hesitation😂😂😂
I just realized during the icing problem, Tony was falling from a large height and was telling JARVIS to deploy flaps. He learned from that mistake and had automatically deployable flaps for when his suit lost power which was shown during his fall from space.
I'm pretty sure those were not flaps, but disposable booster rockets, like that on a NASA space shuttle. Tony's flaps also had a manual release which is why he didn't just die from terminal velocity the first time.
@@grungyemu I guess it’s a flaw on Tony’s part. It’s possible that the flaps couldn’t deploy without power. Or he just went past it completely and got boosters to get to terminal velocity faster. Thanks for the insight 👍🏻
Still dont understand how icing caused problems with the operating system
@@1st2nd2 computers don't like the extreme heat or cold. If it's too hot they melt, and if it's too cold then they can't move, and shut down. If the suit's motherboard housing got ice on it (due to faulty design bc it was the first suit) then the whole thing would have shut down from below freezing temperatures. But if moisture was able to get in anyways that would be a bigger problem.
@@1st2nd2 cold temps slow stuff down
He didn't just learn to add trackers because he was captured by the 10 rings, he also learned to stop participating in the Military Industrial Complex by not selling weaponry anymore.
RIP Yinsen
based
Rip yinsen :(
And tracker probably had more to do with war machine stealing a suit
RIP Yinsen, wish you could've seen what your boi would become
RIP Yinsen, because of you, the world is saved
I may be 1 year late but hey, Tony learned from his mistakes and put protection to Peter’s AND he made sure that Peter wouldnt experience the things that happened to HIM.
Right 👍👍
Rest in peace, Tony Stark, our true hero
Everyone's talking about Tony but can we take a second to appreciate the writers and designers. That is such an incredible amount of care and detail that really sells Tony as this hyper genius that completely went over a lot of our heads. I've been watching the MCU for decade now but never once noticed any of these things, yet they not only knew about this trend but also took great care to constantly keep it going, even if a significant portion of the audience would never even notice. That is just solid film making right there.
But nothing goes over our heads... our reflexes are too fast for that.
@@ToRmEnTeE And we will catch them
@@thejoker543 I'm gonna die surrounded by the biggest idiots in the galaxy...
@The Joker while moving so slowly as to avoid detection….
Glad someone commented this. So many Marvel fans keep d-riding the superheroes and it’s kinda weird. Tony’s a genius because it’s a made up world where he was written as such and RDJ did a great job. I guess everyone gets enamored by the story or somethin
Tony’s engineering progress is so relatable, Obviously on an exponentially different level but every engineer I’ve known builds things, goes head first into it, something bad happens, next time around that problem is fixed. It sounds simply redundant but it’s so hilariously accurate.
Power of the mind
engineers still can't build restaurant kitchens where the damn floor slopes into the drain.. every single F******ing time.... every time cleaning is required, you have to squeegee the water INTO the drains ... always...
That’s why I love engineering, and also aviation.
I fixed your comment:
"Tony's process of using mistakes to improve future designs is what makes him so relatable to real world engineers in spite of the huge technology gap."
@@politelypolite4835 bruh
Iron man's my favorite avenger. This video brings me memories from the past when Marvel movies were the best thing on earth, with well made characters that have progressions, and also with good and engaging stories and script
7:53 'lost to a guy on steroids with a salad plate' ☠☠☠☠
Great video but you missed the best one! In Infinity War his big mistake was not getting the gauntlet off Thanos fast enough. In Endgame at the very end he removes just the stones, not the whole gauntlet, showing he learnt from this mistake! Fun fact in that moment he “shook” just the stones free instead of “pulling” the whole gauntlet, he was taking the last words of advice his father ever gave him, earlier in the movie, to heart “Shake that don’t pull it” Just another reason that final scene with Tony and Thanos is masterful!
Never made the connection on his dad's line. Thank you for pointing it out!
I assumed he was able to pull the stones directly because his suit's nanotech interacted with the nanotech gauntlet whereas he couldn't do that with the gauntlet the dwarves made.
nice insight
Yes but first gauntlet was just a gauntlet. Second was made of nanotech and was made by Tony. That's why he could take only stones from it.
@@mrmacross This is it, he had complete control over the nanotech gauntlet.
He literally took all his past mistakes that would have cost him his life and implemented them into Peter's suits, he really actually cares about him. Pretty wholesome stuff
And the writers make it seamless too
Small details man
The only problem is him caring about Peter. Just never seemed natural too forced and Tim Drake debutish where it handled like an insert for the audience I'm the worst of ways.
@@aurahoneydew9607 He cared so much cuz Peter is the next Generation of Superheroes needed. Superheroes are needed for peace, for everyone and his beloved daughter's future
It’s literally not that serious he just gave him his current tech bruh
Spiderman is supposed to be an adult, not Iron Man's fanboy
I love how both it’s shown multiple times that F.R.I.D.A.Y has her own personality and how caring Tony can be
he also made a new element to prevent him from getting killed by palladium poisoning
This is why I love Tony Stark so much. He's a character that had mistakes, but learned from them. There's even more that weren't mentioned in this video.
Same goes for the actor himself. RDJ has made mistakes in his past, but he's learned and moved on from them.
was*
Cool, which ones are you talking about?
@@hollykm He keeps making suits that take less and less time to put on, from the 2nd suit from Iron Man I, to the briefcase suit in Iron Man II, to the flying suits in Iron Man III, to the nanotech, and probably even more than I missed.
@@tortis6342 the boosted thrust too bcuz he wasnt fast enough to catch up to rhodey falling
He also had issues with his firing mechanism when Bucky was about to escape through the middle silo. So in accordance to this he made missiles that fire independently and targeted specific things.
Homing missiles
he already had homing missiles, but in that part his helmet was broken, so he couldn't look the aim to him, so he had to manually aim
Manual fire mode was also an issue with damage to targeting
he had them in the first movie when saving ppl from terrorists
@@xsisty999 yes but his helmet still calculated the trajectory. What they are saying is that each and every missles now can track and target independently. With or without the helmet tracking.
Really liked this thoughtful deep dive. Editing was superb.
*A true follower of the future of humanity not only learns from mistakes, but also uses them as strength.*
That was something I really like about the concept of a superhero like Iron Man.
He finds his limits. Whether through outside action, floundering about, curiosity, any other reason, he finds what the shortcomings of the suit is, and works to overcome it. A very scientific approach to a ""science"" based superhero.
Like, other supers tend to reach limits by facing a bad guy stronger than them then they believe in friendship or something. But Iron Man is just "oh weird, this happens, let's make it so it doesn't happen again".
"So what's your superpower"
"The scientific method"
He is essentially Marvel's equivalent to DC's Batman.
@@shariqhasan6220 "Take that suit away, what are you?" "Genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist." Honestly agree, both have the superpowers of Money and Brains. In a straight-up matchup though... if we're talking "suits on, maximum power potential" Death Battle style, Stark wins, no contest, because the World's Greatest Detective wouldn't have enough prep time to counter every single gadget of the World's Greatest Scientist (who doesn't even have to get in range of any of Batman's gear). In a 1v1 fisticuffs _without_ any "wonderful toys"? Batman would likely win due to all the martial arts training.
@shariqhasan6220 congrats, Sherlock
One thing this guy missed was the part when Loki threw him off of Stark Tower.
In Endgame, the same thing happened, but since the suit basically is part of him, it was a quicker process
In my opinion, one of the best ways that Tony learned from his mistakes was when he temporarily took Peter's suit in Homecoming. I interpreted that as Tony recognizing the way that he unhealthily dedicated a large portion of his life to the suit, hero lifestyle, and the title of Iron-Man.
Tony saw alot of himself in Peter, so when Peter told him that he was nothing without the suit, he automatically refused to let the Spider-Man mantle lead Peter down the same devastating paths that he went through.
True. The best way telling someone who learning from their mistakes was them ensuring that someone else wouldn't go down the same path as them.
Peter was special for him sure, but should he encounter some random kid that have the same problem that Tony had, he would probably help/teach that kid regardless. Tony is a good man after all.
@@komi-samabeliever7319 I wanted to see him interact with Ironheart
Your opinion is awesome
Too bad spider is used to making his own stuff. So it wouldn’t really stop him.
@@tetraxis3011 you missed the point
Iron man and Batman. The coolest superheroes ever.
This shows how you learn from mistakes, mistakes don't make you weak, they make you strong.
The best thing about Tony is that he was always ready to die behind his decisions, right or wrong. And always learned from those mistakes
If that said he's probably on the way to make a suit durable to not kill a human snapping with all the infinity stones somewhere.
Robert really did the character justice.
@@donnycorn3086 thats probably not happening due to the fact that *he's fuckin dead* but pepper pots will soon shine in one movie and build some suit made from nano tech capable of withstanding the stones, that being said. Maybe thanos will come back, or maybe there's some other MCU character that we don't know about that is capable of wielding these stones.
Actual character development isnt hard, Marvel! This is what you use to do!
He was also willing to do absolutely anything to bring back everyone after the snap, so he made it possible to wield the stones in his suit just in case he had to be that guy.
He literally did make a new Infinity Gauntlet from Nanotech, so decided as well to incorporate those materials(same material for Mjolnir) into his suit. Perhaps loaned knowledge and materials from the singular surviving dwarf smith.
@@anotoman123 that's literally what he just said 😂😂😂
@@anotoman123 well it’s literally not much since he’s mad smart, but his suit would’ve exploded without proper prep.
"You're not that guy pal, you're not that guy."
@@sometroll3328Tony: I am that guy *snaps*
Probably the most well written character ive seen in every movie
I love the video!! So unique!!
One suggestion for a update, i don´t remember in what movie, Tony and Peter were inside a limousine and Tony looks like he's hugging Peter but he's just open the door. In ENDGAME, when Peter come back, Tony hug him like a son.
Also, after Cap defeated him by destroying his arc reactor, he made every following suit have multiple arc reactors. A main core one on the chest, and multiple small ones along the rest of the body of the suit including limbs.
mark 46 already had it
@@Hardware1906 maybe those small arc reactors are like extensions to help boost the powers on the repulsors and help distribute the power throughout the body
Maybe the later suits after 46-47 tony incorporated self powered mini arc reactors around the body so they power each part as to just powering them from a single source
@@Hardware1906 way back in mark 42. Each part have their own power supply but the main reactor is much stronger
Nope. MK46 had multiple reactors throughout his body. They were supplementary. Which is why it couldn’t fully power for weapons, but enough for him to actually move around in it when his main reactor was damaged. Otherwise he wouldn’t have been able to move at all
Limbs? When and where did it showed?
The definition of “what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger.”
If that was a human
Yeah. Like a broken hip or a heart attack eh ;-)
The Quarry reference
@@SimonMcNair actually broken bones regrow stronger
@@me-vq2ss not your hip it doesn't;-)
The Infinity Saga was the best thing to ever grace cinema history. What a truly unforgettable experience
Lost to a guy on steroids with a salad plate got me 🤣🤣🤣
7:48 “lost to a gay on steroids with a salad plate” 💀💀💀
You mean guy
uncalled for 💀💀
Wait Caps gay??
Gay
Gay?!?!
This just proves to me how much each director involved loved Ironman so much that they paid attention to his continuity.
ikrr
iron man is a flagship and a gem of the MCU. i hope they will bring iron man back on screens at some form without ruining him. pepper or their daughter will be a good choice.
@@angeltensey it’s going to be iron heart
@@jacktheflash8478 no, we say Tony
Still dislike all the hyper tech bs
Greatest character of all time
great video well made and overall very entertaining ty for allowing us to view this video
I love how Tony's power is not only that he has a cool suit and does things, but how he fails, learns, and gets right back at it. Also how he is brave enough to go into a melee fight with one of the strongest people in the universe.
And this was possibly his first use of melee weapons on an Iron Man suit. It was cool how in Civil War, that Fitbit that gave him an Iron Glove was kinda like a prototype for Nanotech. It had a tiny Arc reactor in it, folded out into sufficient armoring (enough to stop a bullet at point blank), and was more reliant on suppression instead of direct attacks. So I feel like both expanding on that glove idea, and after fighting Steve, lead to the Mark 50
@@toddelmsworth640 And it goes exceptionally well with his three pieces suit
He discovered new element in a single attempt
And time machine too
Absolutely, Iron man is powerful because of the suit, sure. but the man behind the suit is why he's a hero. He made thanos bleed, something that not even literal gods could accomplish. While thanos kind of mocked him by saying "all that for a drop of blood", the fact that he survived on his own for long enough to even get an opportunity to make him bleed shows just how strong Iron man really was.
@@thebigbingus8624 Tony made Thanos bleed, but Wanda made Thanos call for help.
I love how tony fixed most of his mistakes with Peter, it’s shows how much he cares, tony maybe called the most selfish billionaire but the sacrifices he made alone shows otherwise
It makes me glad that he died before phase 4 became a thing and the writers butcher his character
@@dizzyheads THANK YOU
you literally just reworded top comment
@primepal6001 nothing really changed i think for cap. he stayed the same way. he has principles and moral characters. the only thing that changed about him is his perception of stark. He witnessed Iron Man sacrifice himself over and over again from Avengers 1 to Endgame.
Cap changed more than you think. Check out the cinematherapy Captain America if you don’t believe me. Also, Tony really should’ve added the parachute in after the icing incident. Rody’s accident kind of sealed the deal.
All the stuff about Peter,s suit shows how much he cared about peter
and not caring about alien threats to the planet and all humanity existence in the same time, lol😂
Fun fact: The reason why the Mark 5 was heavily damages by electricity was because it wasn’t durable and it was made to fit in a suitcase
Even when he added melee weaponry to his suit to counter skilled hand to hand combat opponents like Cap and Thanos, he also added the ability for his suit to regenerate it helmet after his fight with Cap, but of course that already came wit him just upgrading his suit.
Just imagine if he fought his first real enemy (Obadia Stane) with his last suit , after going back in time
@@tysonwilliam1722 Awwww man! That would just put that “My suit is more advanced than your in every way!” Line to more and more shame! Obadiah wouldn’t last 5 seconds!
@@tysonwilliam1722 one shot
@@tysonwilliam1722 Dude why you wanna see tony one punch that skinny bi*ch 😅
Iron monger woulda got cooked in a heart beat
tony was brilliant, because he learnt, he struggled, he tried, and he was so, so far from perfect. he was arrogant, difficult, selfish, and even at the hight of his growth and development those traits never fully went away. and the handling of his mental illness (ESPECIALLY him genuinely believing he was dying during his anxiety attack) was so incredibly real
Ye
Wish mc movies were still like this
instead of this, we have shehulk shaking her ass and people still call it character development
my favorite quotes from thanos: "reality is often disappointing"
People these days really love to write detailed essays about og characters with years of buildup then summarize a new gen unlikeable mc with a 5-10 second post credit scene.
@@pen2660 you are right. we'll just have to see in next 10 years if we feel the same way as we did with iron man captain america and the others
When the MCU had actual good writers not what they currently have who are focused on political messaging and not story telling. Ironman was the best character in the MCU it wasn’t even close, his character arc was amazing
Yup. It's wild how lackluster these movies have become. They seem to have hit their peak. There are some outliers but I think it's over but hey nothing lasts forever.
@@John-Doe-Yo they replaced him with iron heart, no character building, no motivation, no tech building, she’s just better than iron man at everything immediately. Nah I’m done with the M-she-u
I miss him because he was a man who wasn't perfect, always learned from his mistakes and worked harder and made things better, I am glad that he wasn't like the ones Marvel creates now...oh he is so perfect... Is super powerful and doesn't make any mistakes...
One that I noticed is how in Age of Ultron, Ultron easily was able to get his AI into Tony’s Iron Defenders. After that, he likely updated the AI of his suits further to keep anything, not even rogue AI, from being able to hack into his suits. While he never showed anything of the sort, Spider-Man in No Way Home has nano-bots removed from his suit by Doc Ock and he just assumed that it’s a free upgrade for him, but NOPE. His arms no longer responded to him and were taken control of instead.
"lmao my ai now bitch"
Thats a neat detail
yep but this update never made it to spider man suite XD
Remember when Ned hacked the spidey suit with a laptop in a hotel room ?...
Or that mysterio "hacked" the drones system ( not really hack but you have the security system of one of the most powerful weapon on the planet, not capable or recognizing a stark ex employee or simply just recognizing a wrong command when mysterio order the drone to kill Peter...
@@Alice.59 peter had a literal onesie, It can't move around on its own the way iron man's suits can so I don't think Tony put those extra precautions on it. And I know what you mean by mysterio but just to hammer that nail too... He didnt even have to hack anything he was given control with Peter's voice command
@@teamsquid1875 ok for the costume,
but for the drone come on... even changing my password on facebook have a better security than this
"Because Tony learns from his mistakes"
- a very wise man
i finally found you
Was looking for that.
@@Rafaelrgm Same
That phrase is exactly what made me click on this video😂
probably the reason for this video exist at all
5:03 that cap scene was so goofy
So this is how it feels like to witness a person's growth trough trials and error in real time and actually applied their mistakes for better solutions. Because in movies, and even in real life, most often people just repeats their mistakes. But to be able to witness his character development and growth, and being considered the person who grew so much in the last last decade, its making me proud to witness such character!
Tony Stark is one of the best pop culture characters that goes through the best character development. His arc ends well, feels complete and earned.
Lee took a challange to create the most hated character and change him from issue to issue ... everyone can relate to Tony. (even if we not that rich nor smart)
Why do you think he's the fan favourite?
Definitely Tony Stark and Robert D. Jr. made the best match to show character developed, it's relatable thanks to the irl factors of the actor and the scriptwriters.
Of course, that’s exactly how heroes are supposed. It shows that even they, aren’t perfect.