50 % owned by canadian pension plan.. makes me feel a little better when i take it However yes.. it was supposed to become public after they collected enough tolls to pay it off in its entirety.. unfortunatley the rights were sold before this could happen.. however in 80 years the rights return back to the province.. so for every cloud..
This is why European cities are doubling down on transit constantly building and expanding. Because you can not accommodate for everyone driving a car.
Cant keep increasing the population without infrastructure and sustainable pay jobs. Golden horseshoe has over 9M population, Denmark, 5.5 M, Belgium 11mm, Sweden 10.5 mm. How many Swedes commute 40km to work one way like at my husband's plant? It would take me 3.5 hours one way with your glorified public transport to get to one of my former offices.
@@MW-ol2gq You have plenty of options: move closer to your workplace, find a job nearer to your home, or choose a job and home along a transit line. Trying to have it all-without making compromises-is unrealistic. We can't keep adding more lanes; it's simply not feasible. The U.S. experience has shown that bulldozing entire urban neighborhoods for parking lots and additional lanes has solved nothing. Traffic remains. There’s a finite capacity for single-occupancy vehicles in any city, and we’ve already reached it.
@@MW-ol2gqIt takes you and your husband too long to go to work because y'all have been conditioned support car infrastructure too much. If there was more focus on public transit , urban Planning would be better and things would be a lot closer
Public Transit is always a great, and preferable solution, totally agree. BUT, it is no longer safe to use public transit. What are people to do...? Honest question.
@@floyd2222 I have no problem with safety when I ride GO Transit. The extra cost compared to the TTC is worth it for a safer ride (with no delays). Mind you, I usually drive, but if I need to get downtown quickly, I take the GO.
The prices are only going to get higher in the future. Before you know it hardly, anyone will afford to ride transit . Look up 2030 agenda Trudeau is pushing, you city people have..No..Clue what's going to happen if you don't pay attention..
The reality is no matter how sizeable the expansion of current roadways in Toronto are the city will be unable to meet current demand. The answer is the city pivoting to expanding public transit which is objectively a more efficient means of movement when done right.
Public money spent on 407 used to make 407 private owners rich by making it too expensive for regular people to use. The Eglinton L.R.T. is 99% finished, years past completion date, not being used, and nobody can explain why! Governments keep throwing money away with no overall plan or accountability.
Rumour has it from construction workers the tracks are sinking around Mt. Pleasant, soft soil and underground rivers at that location. Which is why there’s only low-rise buildings at that intersection. Lots of finger pointing behind the scenes, once it gets out it’s gonna be quite the story.
It will never get better until all levels of government actually take this problem seriously. We need this to be treated as an emergency and fund a huge mega project to quickly and MASSIVELY expand the subway network.
@@verynonexistent ask that question to the destroyed businesses, houses, noise, dust, and displaced people along the construction lines and neighbourhoods…
@@TheNewMediaoftheDawn i mean i don't want to defend it, but it is what it is. after all the reason immigration sounds bad right now is simply we don't have enough infrastructure to accomodate everyone; our current system was already overcrowded so adding more residents was going to south quickly
What makes biking so dangerous is all the cars. What makes public transit slow is all the cars. What makes it so everything is too far away to walk too is the space we have to reserve for all the cars. But one more lane will fix the traffic jams lol.
Time for the province to advance the Midtown Toronto and uptown cross-GTA rail lines for GO transit to serve all those regional trips that don’t start/end in downtown Toronto. It’s already a “long term” line in the Regional Transportation Plan, but needs more serious investment now before the land and construction costs for those stations skyrockets further.
The girl in red dress said the 407 was built with private funds. She is wrong, the 407 was built with taxpayer money and then leased to a private company for 99 years so that the conservatives could balance the books.(Mike Harris/ Ernie Eaves)Because of this stupid move from the conservatives I will never use the 407 and I will never vote conservative.
@@reggielavoie5048 Who said anything about voting for the liberals. They are almost as bad. But when you have a premier that has to get booze at every corner and pays out even more to get it done sooner, then you have a problem. Healthcare and homeless issues are more important to me than selling booze period.
@@alanscobie2450 if you don't have a place to live because housing is so bad, think people care about roads. Well maybe if your living outta your vehicle.i dont drink so it a non sequitur imo. Thank the libs for that.
Transit must be addressed before gridlock can be resolved. Until its more desirable to take transit, then people will continue to drive and contribute to gridlock. We need Lines 5 and 6 open asap.
Build more and better reliable transit that people would choose over driving. Change the mentality that transit is for everyone and is the preferred way, not like the current mentality that it's for the poor. That's the only way to solve this.
Snow? That is why no trains? They get tons of snow in many parts of Europe and other parts of the world. By the way I live in Toronto and we dont get nearly the snow we used to get due to global warming
We need a modern, fully integrated transit system with high frequency trains. FFS Brampton, a City of 3/4 of a million just got hourly GO service. It’s all pretty Micky Mouse planning. Once, the transit is built charge people $30 bucks to enter Toronto by car.
This was the first summer, where there was still bumper to bumper traffic, (Lakeshore, through Mississauga) during rush hour. It was moving, but it was still bumper to bumper. I am not looking forward to next week. 😬
I remember I bought my first car in 2018 … happened to be on the highway and turned on 680 by accident… they were predicting Toronto traffic being worse than LA by 2024. Now look. WOW.
I’m always amazed that the legacy media reports this as new information. Breakfast Television does this exact story, at least once a year, since the late 1980’s. 20-50 km/hr is the norm now. The government needs to stop cowtowing to special interest groups and build functional transit, like the rest of the world.
The provinces own Experts have been saying for YEARS that Highway 413 would only save drivers 30 seconds - 2 minutes if you’re regularly driving from cottage country to Milton… it’s been the Greenbelt 2.0 land grab from the get go. Don’t be fooled, new highways will only result in more auto-oriented sprawl, and therefore more endless traffic. Advocate for more rail, and also for complete communities so more jobs can be located closer to homes to reduce travel distances in general.
413 will provide an alternate to interprovincial traffic that needs to bypass Toronto thereby leaving 401 less congested with interprovincial traffic n more open for GTA users
@@salmanrashid5526 413 will just create more sprawl by developing land that it mostly farm land now. Those people will need to commute to work thereby increasing sprawl. The governments own studies show this but they ignore.
@@salmanrashid5526 except that the 413 is a considerable detour from the 401 and only ties to the 401 on the west end, not the east, so it cannot function as a “Toronto bypass” for interprovincial trips.
Instead of expanding the 401 for cars. Use it for Rapid Bud Lanes and other small vehicles like motorcycles. That'll reward people for using it and make travel times much better.
Way too many ppl all living in Toronto. Then you have all those GTA folks who all commute to the city. Too many cars on the roads gotta be a big issue. Shitty planning of the city and this crazy growth.
The best way to fix the problem on a personal level is to leave Toronto. And I know many that have. Waiting for various governments to solve this issue with public transit is a fools errand, they will never get it done. And the infrastructure skills of this city/country have eroded badly from prior decades back in the day when stuff could actually get built at a fair price. Eglinton crosstown billions over budget, years late and still not running. Seems almost criminal how badly Toronto has been managed.
It was a stupid idea to build a toll highway alongside free highways to begin with. Make them all free or all toll. In Korea for example, all major highways are toll. But the toll is quite low, so it's not such a heavy burden financially. As a result, the government has a ton of cash to spend on infrastructure. And they do! Highways and transportation are excellent.
Theres a ton of people living in the GTA who worked from home during the pandemic and were subsequently forced back into the office by their micromanaging employers. Its certainly not helping with the already dire congestion issues.
As an employer myself it’s absolutely crucial in today’s market that every minute of work is managed correctly to ensure the employee is putting out maximum output and productivity.
Elevated trains, ferry from Hamilton to Toronto, more work from home opportunities, harder on the real estate market, better accident clearing, and yes, you can't just simply live in TO if you don't work there.
If cities can't accommodate there own citizens, people just move onto greener pastures .. That's how we got the auto industry to move here from Windsor in the 50's.. I'm sure Industry will look out for their own first. We might be seeing the beginning of the end. We tried nothing and are out of ideas.
the best long-term solution to traffic is - and always will be - viable alternatives to driving. make better public transit, and there will be less car trips taken.
Freeing up the 407 might provide relief to a future 413 (maybe) but I can assure you that the 407 would fill up immediately and within a month we’d be back to gridlock. We can fix this with transit, because no matter how busy a subway or a go train gets, it’s overall speed in not affected
Don’t forget that the longer trucks sit in the future traffic, the more the cost goes up for anything you buy. Even more money out of your pocket for anything!
@@R.-et5fnYou're spouting nonsense. Roads continue to be prioritized while public transit has been lagging. We have some of the worst modern transit in the world. And adding lanes and building highways doesn't help as proven by the past 80 years
@@R.-et5fnYou're spouting nonsense. Roads continue to be prioritized while public transit has been lagging. We have some of the worst modern transit in the world. And adding lanes and building highways doesn't help as proven by the past 80 years
Absolutely not true. With the gas prices and groceries rising, life became unaffordable in Toronto for most people. There will not be getting much worse than it already is today.
Montreal traffic is bad. Has been for decades. When I moved to Toronto, I knew the traffic was worse. But what I realized was in comparison to Mtl, there are far less highways/alternate routes and poorer public transit. The city was not built for 3 million. That’s an issue in Vancouver as well, where they don’t even have legit highways.
Montreal traffic is bad. Has been for decades. When I moved to Toronto, I knew the traffic was worse. But what I realized was in comparison to Mtl, there are far less highways/alternate routes and poorer public transit. The city of Toronto was not built for 3 million, let alone the the GTA at 6.5. That’s an issue in Vancouver as well, where they don’t even have legit highways.
electrify the GO to enable shorter headways. introduce congestion pricing, strengthen the growth plan one lane of rail traffic moves as many as 3 gardiner expressways.
They ignore the real problem. People can’t afford housing close enough to their place of work; to avoid long commutes using cars. But an economy that’s built on housing equity and hole flipping has made most people to choose a car and then purchasing a home.
Once many of the recent international "students" are forced to leave once their "study" period expires then traffic will ease. Less people, less traffic.
What is needed will never be done. Either go big like what Boston did, or slow the pain by eliminating the growth of the GTA (ie: no new condos or immigration into the GTA). The reason the projections look nasty is because of population growth. Its not surprising that things will get much, much worse. What did you expect with adding countless condo buildings into a fixed area with no increase in the infrastructure?
Allen road not connecting to the Gardiner - that's a big issue. Going to require billions of $$$, but as long as you say "no money" then it'll never happen and traffic will ensue. Also the 100 year lease for the 407 should be cut down to as early as possible and remove it as a toll road entirely.
The problem is that every time the government takes steps to improve things, either prioritising transit, one way streets etc. there's always some small group of people who oppose it for their own special interests and the government caves in to them. It's time to make the right decisions regardless. There's no reason the whole city should suffer because of a few people who can't accept change.
This is not just a traffic problem but an urban planning issue. Why are people driving their cars all over the city? Because they can't find locally what they need. Homes and businesses are far apart, suburban subdivisions have no social infrastructure, lack of density, too much wasted 'open space' with no purpose, etc.. We need a complete rethink about how we build livable cities.
Of course it’s about population. And we all know why that is exploding. I note the roaring silence on the issue, however. What a surprise. And any politician who does tell the truth will get Sid’s feigned outrage and name-calling, not his vote.
Yah, we're up to 20% the population density of Paris in the third biggest city in the US and Canada. And you're right, there are literally no other cities in the country to move to if big city life's not for you.
Forget about 413 or 407. More roads attract more cars and it would just become as congested as the 401. Smarter land use and efficient transit are the only solution. There's no other option.
@@Byteable What I meant is that only building more roads will not fix congestion. The only thing that fixes congestion is reducing the total number of trips people make and increasing vehicle occupancy. If you just build more roads they'll improve for a few months and then go back to gridlock. It's called "induced demand".
Facts. Toronto has the most unfinished high rise projects in North America. Lane blockages for decades, construction blockages at a level that no other city has. It's political that the one in charge of approving these are either stupid or paid off. Or both. Also, illegally parked vehicles that block lanes used to get towed away, and why doesn't that happen any more? Because tow companies can't be successful when politicians make sure they can't due to contracts etc. Also over 30,000 immigrants migrate to the gta every year. So more and more and more and more people come. And politicians, who are in charge of the city, don't expand roads. They approve construction projects that block roads and are generally paid off, corrupt and stupid. They are the ones to blame. Olivia Chow is the worst mayor, Toronto has ever seen since Toronto was a city.
Yes The 407 highway was built with public money, not private, and it was supposed to be given back to the people after it was paid off. I guess you were too young then
It's kind of incredible to think that China, a country that got a late start on building modern cities and that has exponentially larger cities, has got public transit so right and so well while Canada/Toronto has messed this up so badly. I realize some of it is, obviously, that building in established cities is harder but, again, we're talking about large cities that got much bigger.
We have the resources but we don't have the leadership. Part of the problem is on us too; people complain but they don't vote. In our democracy, the laziness of our citizens will reflect the laziness of our leaders.. If we can maintain a busy, elevated highway like the Gardiner we can certainly come up with high quality and high reach public transportation infrastructure to alleviate traffic in the GTA.
The apathy of our politicians at all levels of government on this issue is astounding. And tbh there’s a lot of apathy on the part of most drivers as well who just put up with it. It is humanly possible to remedy this problem, so the fact that it’s not getting fixed is strictly a matter of the lack of will to do it.
They made everything worse and all profited . never ending construction & improvements when i was fine in early 2000s.. - late we are overpopulated. it never ends metrolinx taking another 15 years as well..
Dear GTA residents…my take on this is simple 407 is privatized because someone has to put up the money and corporations who are willing to pay have the right to do what they want with that highway. We asked the citizens are supposed to pay if you use that in this video, the female reporter says that people use it out of desperation. So the bottom line of this video is how do we live or afford with the basic necessities of housing transportation food while also having the money to pay for everything….here’s my take on this I will keep it brief, if you want to live in a first world country, you have to pay taxes if you pay taxes, the government decides and if we decide who we elect, regardless of your affiliation, liberals or conservatives specifically…the government decides should be able to decide how to run the country. If you the citizen has a right, you have to speak for what the government should do the change by your vote.The government decides democracy does not mean that we can get everything we want… we also learn to compromise. The fact is that when money is needed during Covid…money if it was a conservatives government would have needed to be just managed it responsibly well but everyone got money. Everyone unlike me did not spend it just for food and necessities , but people who waste money and who are burden to society, will always, drain the society so in short to this the point is simple human beings have a lot of expectations. This is a population issue not a traffic issue. We do not have the kind of land to occupy highways and also housing and everything because our land is mostly cold country so by knowing all these facts, all you need to know is, we need to be realistic about the population that the government lets into the country we should stop the population immigration that is coming in we have to make sure that the people who are being brought to Canada have housing, employment, and healthcare, Pierre said. finally, everyone has to work hard. Everyone has resources in this country and everyone is going through challenges. There are certain things that answers that so everyone who doesn’t take that will end up not finding the answers or purpose to why they’re depressed so my simple point and all this is focus on what you can control and not worry about what you cannot control taxes is not the issue. It’s the fact that we have to have a government that spend those taxes and make sure that private entities do not, take more and that’s what matters we cannot expect the middle class or the low income class the society the rich people are also being taxed heavily so solution to the problem is everybody has to do their part the rest the people on the top have to give suggestions. My only suggestion is that we should not get in the way of the politicians so let the people who make decisions who are the experts let let’s give them the opportunity to fail and let them also have the opportunity to lead the country. Stay safe and God bless you all.
Expand public transit. Put minor tolls on the major highways around the city and use that money to provide free public transit for anyone willing to use it. Use eminent domain to take back the 407. Problem solved.
The issue with tollways is the money will be misused like it always has been. If that's to be executed in the right way then there must be a clause that all toll money goes back towards roads/transportation. BTW punishing car drivers so people can catch a free ride on transit isn't the way. There is enough war on the car stuff.
@@IKhanNot Bike lanes and bus lanes aside...is there really a war on the car? Or are you just now discovering that not everyone wants to pay for gas, insurance, parking, and repairs? I drive, but I know what I signed up for...no one put a gun to my head and said that I had to sit in almost an hour of traffic on my way home everyday. The "war" is self-inflicted.
Does some sounding tech wanna tell me what was happening at the beginning of the vid? Sounded like someone was shuffling their shirt with the mic live lol…wait I think I just got it 😂
Controversial but it’s time to impose ‘city entry fines’ for highway users who live outside of the metropolitan area. As soon as any subway line exists, you should pay for the privilege of wasting city resources for an inefficient method of transportation. The people who live in a city shouldn’t be responsible for paying for the bad habits of outsiders. I say that as an outsider Think about the amount of single occupancy drivers on the road heading to the city every single day. The average car today is 70 times larger than a person in volume. To move a single person to the city centre, you need to haul an additional 6-8 cubic meter metal box with you. Not to mention the wasted cost of real estate for the storage (parking lots), movement (wide roads/infrastructure), servicing (mechanics), retail space (dealerships) and energy (gas stations) of these metal boxes going to the same destination +/- 10 minutes and usually accessible by subway/streetcar anyways.
A downtown congestion fee similar to alot of big cities would go along way to solve these problems. Would reduce car traffic and also raise much needed funds for transit. But these politicies bury their head in sand expecting things to change magically.
If you continue to rely on cars you will lose. If you sprawl you will continue to rely on cars. If you continue to rely on cars, you will sprawl. You must break the curse. Do you dare?
the sad part is this. lets say we have the answer, and plan, and funding. it would be 2070 before the plan would complete, and be gridlock during those years.
Yah! We're up to 20% of the population density of Paris, in the third biggest city in the US and Canada! What's next, three story buildings on transit corridors like Bloor?
I am happy to use toll highway for a good road, good flow and a piece of mind. Why should I subsidize freeloaders? I also use 407 after I got rear ended by a truck on 401in a stop and go traffic. The truck was driven by two recent Punjabi immigrants who didn't even know where their insurance papers were when they hit me. They also asked me to talk to their "boss" as they didn't know what information is needed when there is a collission. All this happened bcs they were looking at the map where to go and didn't pay attention to stop and go traffic.
Recently I spent 2hrs and half on GO Train to Niagara Falls...going 60km average speed like WTF...We got stop our car dependency fix the GO commenter lines, with more frequent times high speed to Barrie, Niagara Falls, Collingwood, Kingston. Building more highways and traffic lanes won't solve the problems..that ship sailed with 407...We were totally screw with greedy and stupidity of all LEVELS of governments..
Bingo. It's a slow burn. Eventually people will give up their cars due to the pressure and constant brainwashing. It's all by design. Don't think our "governments" and 'leaders" are capable of such a sinister plan. Think again.
Public transit is a long way behind other developed countries. Take a look at Japan, Korea or Hong Kong, transits are so convenience that people don't even want to own a car! Road Constructions have no end dates are also another problem.
Our beloved mayor is requesting from business to mandate coming back to the office. A friend at TD tower told me they are mandated to work a minimum 3 days now in the office and that will increase to a full week by EOY.
@@jonm3131 Simply, no they don't. Where are you getting that stat??? DO you drive? I do and I drive all over the city and I cycle all over the city. Bikes lanes are dangerous. Cyclists need to be educated to the rules of the road.
It’s only Torontonians who have a conversation about how bad things will be in the future. Everyone else is thinking the future is now. 40 years ago GTA citizens screamed “It’s my right to drive a car”…..well….enjoy!
Correction…the 407 was not built with private money Meredith. You are too young to remember it was built with PUBLIC money and sold for a song
Yes THANK YOU!
haha - we shouldn't expect her to not yap about it though.
So why does the taxpayer pay for speed enforcement on a privately owned highway?🤔
50 % owned by canadian pension plan.. makes me feel a little better when i take it
However yes.. it was supposed to become public after they collected enough tolls to pay it off in its entirety.. unfortunatley the rights were sold before this could happen.. however in 80 years the rights return back to the province.. so for every cloud..
Thanks to conservatives to make the future suck
This is why European cities are doubling down on transit constantly building and expanding. Because you can not accommodate for everyone driving a car.
Cant keep increasing the population without infrastructure and sustainable pay jobs. Golden horseshoe has over 9M population, Denmark, 5.5 M, Belgium 11mm, Sweden 10.5 mm. How many Swedes commute 40km to work one way like at my husband's plant? It would take me 3.5 hours one way with your glorified public transport to get to one of my former offices.
@@MW-ol2gq You have plenty of options: move closer to your workplace, find a job nearer to your home, or choose a job and home along a transit line. Trying to have it all-without making compromises-is unrealistic.
We can't keep adding more lanes; it's simply not feasible. The U.S. experience has shown that bulldozing entire urban neighborhoods for parking lots and additional lanes has solved nothing. Traffic remains.
There’s a finite capacity for single-occupancy vehicles in any city, and we’ve already reached it.
Driving a car is a privilege, not a right. But people are generally too selfish to understand that.
@@paul1224fordwhat does privilege mean in this instance?
@@MW-ol2gqIt takes you and your husband too long to go to work because y'all have been conditioned support car infrastructure too much. If there was more focus on public transit , urban Planning would be better and things would be a lot closer
The whole problem started when the Conservatives sold the 407. It was supposed to be the 401 bypass for the GTA.
I recall the Liberals selling the 407 when McGinty was in power?
Yeah, they only sold it for $1.5 billion dollars. Which is worth way more than that. What a Gong Show.
Yup, and everyone still keeps voting for Cons at the municipal, provincial and federal level... Conservatives and Corruption go hand in hand.
Quit crying about the 407. I do't know anyone who works downtown that can benefit from the 407
@@Erich2142dumb comment of the day. Congratulations 🎉
All levels of Government ruined this city. It's disgusting.
Agreed.
Public transit needs to get better. Way better if you want to move a lot of people. Rail needs to be better.
Public Transit is always a great, and preferable solution, totally agree. BUT, it is no longer safe to use public transit. What are people to do...? Honest question.
@@floyd2222 I have no problem with safety when I ride GO Transit. The extra cost compared to the TTC is worth it for a safer ride (with no delays). Mind you, I usually drive, but if I need to get downtown quickly, I take the GO.
The prices are only going to get higher in the future. Before you know it hardly, anyone will afford to ride transit . Look up 2030 agenda Trudeau is pushing, you city people have..No..Clue what's going to happen if you don't pay attention..
@@brianclement9240 And yet they.... turd's new people will gleefully support it!!!! Fk Toronto!!!!!
Look up 2030 agenda. This is what you city people have to look forward to..
The reality is no matter how sizeable the expansion of current roadways in Toronto are the city will be unable to meet current demand. The answer is the city pivoting to expanding public transit which is objectively a more efficient means of movement when done right.
Public money spent on 407 used to make 407 private owners rich by making it too expensive for regular people to use. The Eglinton L.R.T. is 99% finished, years past completion date, not being used, and nobody can explain why! Governments keep throwing money away with no overall plan or accountability.
Rumour has it from construction workers the tracks are sinking around Mt. Pleasant, soft soil and underground rivers at that location. Which is why there’s only low-rise buildings at that intersection. Lots of finger pointing behind the scenes, once it gets out it’s gonna be quite the story.
It will never get better until all levels of government actually take this problem seriously. We need this to be treated as an emergency and fund a huge mega project to quickly and MASSIVELY expand the subway network.
Eglinton LRT is still not open. You think any leader has vision? Begging for more money to replace old subway cars is all we can do.
Nope slow population growth.
@@TheNewMediaoftheDawn why? even with minimal population growth, we still benefit from more subways
@@verynonexistent ask that question to the destroyed businesses, houses, noise, dust, and displaced people along the construction lines and neighbourhoods…
@@TheNewMediaoftheDawn i mean i don't want to defend it, but it is what it is. after all the reason immigration sounds bad right now is simply we don't have enough infrastructure to accomodate everyone; our current system was already overcrowded so adding more residents was going to south quickly
What makes biking so dangerous is all the cars. What makes public transit slow is all the cars. What makes it so everything is too far away to walk too is the space we have to reserve for all the cars. But one more lane will fix the traffic jams lol.
More than a lane needs be built. Actual new road networks are required
Time for the province to advance the Midtown Toronto and uptown cross-GTA rail lines for GO transit to serve all those regional trips that don’t start/end in downtown Toronto.
It’s already a “long term” line in the Regional Transportation Plan, but needs more serious investment now before the land and construction costs for those stations skyrockets further.
The girl in red dress said the 407 was built with private funds. She is wrong, the 407 was built with taxpayer money and then leased to a private company for 99 years so that the conservatives could balance the books.(Mike Harris/ Ernie Eaves)Because of this stupid move from the conservatives I will never use the 407 and I will never vote conservative.
Keep voting for Trudeau then, that's much better. You won't have a place to live to get to work l😂
@@reggielavoie5048 Who said anything about voting for the liberals. They are almost as bad. But when you have a premier that has to get booze at every corner and pays out even more to get it done sooner, then you have a problem. Healthcare and homeless issues are more important to me than selling booze period.
@@alanscobie2450 if you don't have a place to live because housing is so bad, think people care about roads. Well maybe if your living outta your vehicle.i dont drink so it a non sequitur imo. Thank the libs for that.
Transit must be addressed before gridlock can be resolved.
Until its more desirable to take transit, then people will continue to drive and contribute to gridlock. We need Lines 5 and 6 open asap.
Build more and better reliable transit that people would choose over driving. Change the mentality that transit is for everyone and is the preferred way, not like the current mentality that it's for the poor. That's the only way to solve this.
The real answer is more train service and way more train service…ever hear of Europe?
Europe do not have amount of snow we get here every year . Train is not the answer .
Snow? That is why no trains? They get tons of snow in many parts of Europe and other parts of the world. By the way I live in Toronto and we dont get nearly the snow we used to get due to global warming
i agree high speed trains
@@jessicayoung1190you don’t think Nordic countries get snow?
We need a modern, fully integrated transit system with high frequency trains. FFS Brampton, a City of 3/4 of a million just got hourly GO service. It’s all pretty Micky Mouse planning. Once, the transit is built charge people $30 bucks to enter Toronto by car.
Uncontrolled growth
Uncontrolled Intended Population Growth
Uncontrolled indian immigration
@@404notfoundXx-m5k be a realist not a racist. But you can't!
This was the first summer, where there was still bumper to bumper traffic, (Lakeshore, through Mississauga) during rush hour. It was moving, but it was still bumper to bumper. I am not looking forward to next week. 😬
Nope, this is a Mike Harris issue. He did everything he could to destroy Toronto. Now Ford is finishing the job.
I remember I bought my first car in 2018 … happened to be on the highway and turned on 680 by accident… they were predicting Toronto traffic being worse than LA by 2024.
Now look. WOW.
Got my first car in 1980 and I actually enjoyed driving back then. Not anymore.
Having driven in LA recently, can confirm it's worse in Toronto.
I’m always amazed that the legacy media reports this as new information. Breakfast Television does this exact story, at least once a year, since the late 1980’s. 20-50 km/hr is the norm now. The government needs to stop cowtowing to special interest groups and build functional transit, like the rest of the world.
The provinces own Experts have been saying for YEARS that Highway 413 would only save drivers 30 seconds - 2 minutes if you’re regularly driving from cottage country to Milton… it’s been the Greenbelt 2.0 land grab from the get go. Don’t be fooled, new highways will only result in more auto-oriented sprawl, and therefore more endless traffic.
Advocate for more rail, and also for complete communities so more jobs can be located closer to homes to reduce travel distances in general.
I saved over 40 mins, one way, every day on my commute using the 407 vs the 401.
Well worth it to not drive in 4 lanes of stupidity.
FAKE NEWS.... stop complaining and spreading lies
413 will provide an alternate to interprovincial traffic that needs to bypass Toronto thereby leaving 401 less congested with interprovincial traffic n more open for GTA users
@@salmanrashid5526 413 will just create more sprawl by developing land that it mostly farm land now. Those people will need to commute to work thereby increasing sprawl. The governments own studies show this but they ignore.
@@salmanrashid5526 except that the 413 is a considerable detour from the 401 and only ties to the 401 on the west end, not the east, so it cannot function as a “Toronto bypass” for interprovincial trips.
Instead of expanding the 401 for cars. Use it for Rapid Bud Lanes and other small vehicles like motorcycles. That'll reward people for using it and make travel times much better.
How many people ride motorcycles from october to april? How many ride in snow, rain,wind? Yeah...sit down bud.
Way too many ppl all living in Toronto. Then you have all those GTA folks who all commute to the city. Too many cars on the roads gotta be a big issue. Shitty planning of the city and this crazy growth.
Government, Trudeau needs to stop letting people into Canada. And stop voting liberal !!!!!
The best way to fix the problem on a personal level is to leave Toronto. And I know many that have. Waiting for various governments to solve this issue with public transit is a fools errand, they will never get it done. And the infrastructure skills of this city/country have eroded badly from prior decades back in the day when stuff could actually get built at a fair price. Eglinton crosstown billions over budget, years late and still not running. Seems almost criminal how badly Toronto has been managed.
It was a stupid idea to build a toll highway alongside free highways to begin with. Make them all free or all toll. In Korea for example, all major highways are toll. But the toll is quite low, so it's not such a heavy burden financially. As a result, the government has a ton of cash to spend on infrastructure. And they do! Highways and transportation are excellent.
Like most countries. Why not limit big rigs to after hours? Like 9pm-5am.
Or conversely, why not allow only commercial vehicles on the expressways during the day, 9:00am to 3:00pm.
Theres a ton of people living in the GTA who worked from home during the pandemic and were subsequently forced back into the office by their micromanaging employers. Its certainly not helping with the already dire congestion issues.
As an employer myself it’s absolutely crucial in today’s market that every minute of work is managed correctly to ensure the employee is putting out maximum output and productivity.
@@AS-gh1geNot sure if that was sarcasm, but if they worked from home, they’d have more time for work and less stress and time wasted from commuting.
Elevated trains, ferry from Hamilton to Toronto, more work from home opportunities, harder on the real estate market, better accident clearing, and yes, you can't just simply live in TO if you don't work there.
If cities can't accommodate there own citizens, people just move onto greener pastures .. That's how we got the auto industry to move here from Windsor in the 50's..
I'm sure Industry will look out for their own first.
We might be seeing the beginning of the end.
We tried nothing and are out of ideas.
the best long-term solution to traffic is - and always will be - viable alternatives to driving.
make better public transit, and there will be less car trips taken.
Freeing up the 407 might provide relief to a future 413 (maybe) but I can assure you that the 407 would fill up immediately and within a month we’d be back to gridlock. We can fix this with transit, because no matter how busy a subway or a go train gets, it’s overall speed in not affected
Traffic on Lakeshore West from Sherbourne to Bay Street does not move I was stuck there today for 1 hour
Don’t forget that the longer trucks sit in the future traffic, the more the cost goes up for anything you buy. Even more money out of your pocket for anything!
We desperately need to build more roads and expand existing ones!… the focus can’t only be on public transit while this investment is also important!
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@@R.-et5fnYou're spouting nonsense. Roads continue to be prioritized while public transit has been lagging. We have some of the worst modern transit in the world. And adding lanes and building highways doesn't help as proven by the past 80 years
@@R.-et5fnYou're spouting nonsense. Roads continue to be prioritized while public transit has been lagging. We have some of the worst modern transit in the world. And adding lanes and building highways doesn't help as proven by the past 80 years
All I see is condos going up with hundreds of new tenants. Well these people have to drive .
No, driving is not the only and should not be the default way to get around.
Absolutely not true. With the gas prices and groceries rising, life became unaffordable in Toronto for most people. There will not be getting much worse than it already is today.
Montreal traffic is bad. Has been for decades. When I moved to Toronto, I knew the traffic was worse. But what I realized was in comparison to Mtl, there are far less highways/alternate routes and poorer public transit. The city was not built for 3 million. That’s an issue in Vancouver as well, where they don’t even have legit highways.
Montreal traffic is bad. Has been for decades. When I moved to Toronto, I knew the traffic was worse. But what I realized was in comparison to Mtl, there are far less highways/alternate routes and poorer public transit. The city of Toronto was not built for 3 million, let alone the the
GTA at 6.5. That’s an issue in Vancouver as well, where they don’t even have legit highways.
electrify the GO to enable shorter headways. introduce congestion pricing, strengthen the growth plan
one lane of rail traffic moves as many as 3 gardiner expressways.
Every corner their is construction, this year they closed all ramps to get on the 401 or exit the 401 before midnight
Just imagine all the road rage incidents that are going to happen through the roof
Toronto needs tolls now to ease up on traffic. London UK did it and it helped.
They ignore the real problem. People can’t afford housing close enough to their place of work; to avoid long commutes using cars. But an economy that’s built on housing equity and hole flipping has made most people to choose a car and then purchasing a home.
In addition, toll sections of the road. Use the revenue to build more public transit.
everyone shouting 407 when the ACTUAL issue is poor Urban Planning and poorly funded public transit
Once many of the recent international "students" are forced to leave once their "study" period expires then traffic will ease. Less people, less traffic.
What is needed will never be done. Either go big like what Boston did, or slow the pain by eliminating the growth of the GTA (ie: no new condos or immigration into the GTA). The reason the projections look nasty is because of population growth. Its not surprising that things will get much, much worse. What did you expect with adding countless condo buildings into a fixed area with no increase in the infrastructure?
Why not more homes in Toronto proper? It seems the problem is commuters who live far from work, so why not live closer to work?
Allen road not connecting to the Gardiner - that's a big issue. Going to require billions of $$$, but as long as you say "no money" then it'll never happen and traffic will ensue. Also the 100 year lease for the 407 should be cut down to as early as possible and remove it as a toll road entirely.
The problem is that every time the government takes steps to improve things, either prioritising transit, one way streets etc. there's always some small group of people who oppose it for their own special interests and the government caves in to them. It's time to make the right decisions regardless. There's no reason the whole city should suffer because of a few people who can't accept change.
"Theres not much we can do about it."
You've given up or you never tried.
Pick one!
I was stuck in downtown traffic for 2 hours I had to get out of my car because I was in so much pain
Tunnel highways and hyperloops should be a thing.
Revive those old cancelled freeway plans in the 1960s or build a BRT line along every freeway
This is not just a traffic problem but an urban planning issue. Why are people driving their cars all over the city? Because they can't find locally what they need. Homes and businesses are far apart, suburban subdivisions have no social infrastructure, lack of density, too much wasted 'open space' with no purpose, etc.. We need a complete rethink about how we build livable cities.
Of course it’s about population. And we all know why that is exploding. I note the roaring silence on the issue, however. What a surprise. And any politician who does tell the truth will get Sid’s feigned outrage and name-calling, not his vote.
Yah, we're up to 20% the population density of Paris in the third biggest city in the US and Canada. And you're right, there are literally no other cities in the country to move to if big city life's not for you.
Forget about 413 or 407. More roads attract more cars and it would just become as congested as the 401.
Smarter land use and efficient transit are the only solution. There's no other option.
How do you transport goods to retail and grocery stores without road infrastructure? Are you going to have couriers take the transit?
@@Byteable What I meant is that only building more roads will not fix congestion. The only thing that fixes congestion is reducing the total number of trips people make and increasing vehicle occupancy. If you just build more roads they'll improve for a few months and then go back to gridlock. It's called "induced demand".
Get ready for more wear and tear on the roads.😒
Unfortunately, double decker highway and underground highway, more subway lines with express and local trains like New York lol
Facts. Toronto has the most unfinished high rise projects in North America. Lane blockages for decades, construction blockages at a level that no other city has. It's political that the one in charge of approving these are either stupid or paid off. Or both. Also, illegally parked vehicles that block lanes used to get towed away, and why doesn't that happen any more? Because tow companies can't be successful when politicians make sure they can't due to contracts etc. Also over 30,000 immigrants migrate to the gta every year. So more and more and more and more people come. And politicians, who are in charge of the city, don't expand roads. They approve construction projects that block roads and are generally paid off, corrupt and stupid. They are the ones to blame. Olivia Chow is the worst mayor, Toronto has ever seen since Toronto was a city.
If you're younger and you have the ability to leave Toronto or Canada for that matter many reasons to do it including this
Yes The 407 highway was built with public money, not private, and it was supposed to be given back to the people after it was paid off. I guess you were too young then
It's kind of incredible to think that China, a country that got a late start on building modern cities and that has exponentially larger cities, has got public transit so right and so well while Canada/Toronto has messed this up so badly. I realize some of it is, obviously, that building in established cities is harder but, again, we're talking about large cities that got much bigger.
We have the resources but we don't have the leadership. Part of the problem is on us too; people complain but they don't vote. In our democracy, the laziness of our citizens will reflect the laziness of our leaders..
If we can maintain a busy, elevated highway like the Gardiner we can certainly come up with high quality and high reach public transportation infrastructure to alleviate traffic in the GTA.
you've fallen for CCP propaganda lmao
The apathy of our politicians at all levels of government on this issue is astounding. And tbh there’s a lot of apathy on the part of most drivers as well who just put up with it. It is humanly possible to remedy this problem, so the fact that it’s not getting fixed is strictly a matter of the lack of will to do it.
They made everything worse and all profited . never ending construction & improvements when i was fine in early 2000s.. - late
we are overpopulated. it never ends metrolinx taking another 15 years as well..
Dear GTA residents…my take on this is simple 407 is privatized because someone has to put up the money and corporations who are willing to pay have the right to do what they want with that highway. We asked the citizens are supposed to pay if you use that in this video, the female reporter says that people use it out of desperation. So the bottom line of this video is how do we live or afford with the basic necessities of housing transportation food while also having the money to pay for everything….here’s my take on this I will keep it brief, if you want to live in a first world country, you have to pay taxes if you pay taxes, the government decides and if we decide who we elect, regardless of your affiliation, liberals or conservatives specifically…the government decides should be able to decide how to run the country. If you the citizen has a right, you have to speak for what the government should do the change by your vote.The government decides democracy does not mean that we can get everything we want… we also learn to compromise. The fact is that when money is needed during Covid…money if it was a conservatives government would have needed to be just managed it responsibly well but everyone got money. Everyone unlike me did not spend it just for food and necessities , but people who waste money and who are burden to society, will always, drain the society so in short to this the point is simple human beings have a lot of expectations. This is a population issue not a traffic issue. We do not have the kind of land to occupy highways and also housing and everything because our land is mostly cold country so by knowing all these facts, all you need to know is, we need to be realistic about the population that the government lets into the country we should stop the population immigration that is coming in we have to make sure that the people who are being brought to Canada have housing, employment, and healthcare, Pierre said. finally, everyone has to work hard. Everyone has resources in this country and everyone is going through challenges. There are certain things that answers that so everyone who doesn’t take that will end up not finding the answers or purpose to why they’re depressed so my simple point and all this is focus on what you can control and not worry about what you cannot control taxes is not the issue. It’s the fact that we have to have a government that spend those taxes and make sure that private entities do not, take more and that’s what matters we cannot expect the middle class or the low income class the society the rich people are also being taxed heavily so solution to the problem is everybody has to do their part the rest the people on the top have to give suggestions. My only suggestion is that we should not get in the way of the politicians so let the people who make decisions who are the experts let let’s give them the opportunity to fail and let them also have the opportunity to lead the country. Stay safe and God bless you all.
Expand public transit. Put minor tolls on the major highways around the city and use that money to provide free public transit for anyone willing to use it. Use eminent domain to take back the 407. Problem solved.
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The issue with tollways is the money will be misused like it always has been. If that's to be executed in the right way then there must be a clause that all toll money goes back towards roads/transportation. BTW punishing car drivers so people can catch a free ride on transit isn't the way. There is enough war on the car stuff.
@@IKhanNot Bike lanes and bus lanes aside...is there really a war on the car? Or are you just now discovering that not everyone wants to pay for gas, insurance, parking, and repairs? I drive, but I know what I signed up for...no one put a gun to my head and said that I had to sit in almost an hour of traffic on my way home everyday. The "war" is self-inflicted.
Just think how much "Extra" money there would have been if the conservatives didn't sell the 407 🤷🏻♀️
@@jennywalker-mr4rw None, it would be build with taxpayer money then given free to drivers to become another red line, like all the the other 400s.
It's statistics like this are the reason I left the GTA years ago and will never return!! Have fun with that rotting city, people!!
Lol, it's already 20 kph on the 401 W. Dailey.
Turdeau imported India without spending anything in infrastructure. That's why we are in this mess.
lol. I was just in Brampton. Confirmed ✅
Does some sounding tech wanna tell me what was happening at the beginning of the vid? Sounded like someone was shuffling their shirt with the mic live lol…wait I think I just got it 😂
Imagine what could happen if we had a strong subway system? Ppl use cars because transit suck nowadays!
Controversial but it’s time to impose ‘city entry fines’ for highway users who live outside of the metropolitan area. As soon as any subway line exists, you should pay for the privilege of wasting city resources for an inefficient method of transportation. The people who live in a city shouldn’t be responsible for paying for the bad habits of outsiders.
I say that as an outsider
Think about the amount of single occupancy drivers on the road heading to the city every single day. The average car today is 70 times larger than a person in volume. To move a single person to the city centre, you need to haul an additional 6-8 cubic meter metal box with you. Not to mention the wasted cost of real estate for the storage (parking lots), movement (wide roads/infrastructure), servicing (mechanics), retail space (dealerships) and energy (gas stations) of these metal boxes going to the same destination +/- 10 minutes and usually accessible by subway/streetcar anyways.
More roads do not solve traffic. The more you build, the more people drive.
Is there anything positive about Toronto in this day and age? Honestly...
More bikes and bike lanes, invest in more public transit, better options for commuters. Simple.
And the drivers using the roads contribute to the problem too
Was just in LA and drove through there, Toronto in worse shape. Biggest difference is that they keep moving and there are less ahole drivers
A downtown congestion fee similar to alot of big cities would go along way to solve these problems. Would reduce car traffic and also raise much needed funds for transit. But these politicies bury their head in sand expecting things to change magically.
No new taxes. People are already taxed to death
At this point just give the 407 the billions they want for us to buy it back
They would open up the 407 to the public before that would be allowed to happen.
Perspective needed here. Remember these are the good old days…
Well you can thank immigration
If you continue to rely on cars you will lose. If you sprawl you will continue to rely on cars. If you continue to rely on cars, you will sprawl. You must break the curse. Do you dare?
the sad part is this.
lets say we have the answer, and plan, and funding.
it would be 2070 before the plan would complete, and be gridlock during those years.
.....The cyclists are the problem. They have taken away lanes for vehicles and have caused the traffic problems......
TOO MANY FREAKIN' PEOPLE IN TOO SMALL AN AREA.
Yah! We're up to 20% of the population density of Paris, in the third biggest city in the US and Canada! What's next, three story buildings on transit corridors like Bloor?
I am happy to use toll highway for a good road, good flow and a piece of mind. Why should I subsidize freeloaders? I also use 407 after I got rear ended by a truck on 401in a stop and go traffic. The truck was driven by two recent Punjabi immigrants who didn't even know where their insurance papers were when they hit me. They also asked me to talk to their "boss" as they didn't know what information is needed when there is a collission. All this happened bcs they were looking at the map where to go and didn't pay attention to stop and go traffic.
Freeloaders ? My tax dollars paid for that as did many others. 🤡
Even a kid can tell its a Population Issue!
Recently I spent 2hrs and half on GO Train to Niagara Falls...going 60km average speed like WTF...We got stop our car dependency fix the GO commenter lines, with more frequent times high speed to Barrie, Niagara Falls, Collingwood, Kingston. Building more highways and traffic lanes won't solve the problems..that ship sailed with 407...We were totally screw with greedy and stupidity of all LEVELS of governments..
Don’t you see this is all by design? In their own literature they say they want to end private car ownership
Bingo. It's a slow burn. Eventually people will give up their cars due to the pressure and constant brainwashing. It's all by design. Don't think our "governments" and 'leaders" are capable of such a sinister plan. Think again.
How about incentivising companies to get out of toronto? Or incentivising companies to remove RTO mandate and increase wfh
Build the 413 and make the 407 free. The 401 continues to be the busiest highway in NA. 🤷🏽♂️
How about building out better public transit infrastructure that extends beyond GTA.
Simple - get rid of the homes and businesses, replace them with roads and parking lots.
Public transit is a long way behind other developed countries. Take a look at Japan, Korea or Hong Kong, transits are so convenience that people don't even want to own a car! Road Constructions have no end dates are also another problem.
Agree but just note 2/3 of those places u mentioned are islands. Canada is a whole lot bigger which makes transit harder to build
@@mattl4802 most of Canada's population is concentrated in a few areas. There's no excuse for the joke of public transit we have.
@@aidanmccarthy9249 yes theres a need to build transit i dont deny that..but just note some of asias best transit cities still hv terrible traffic
2041? Toronto's traffic gridlock is worse than ever now. In fact, I read that many are moving and working remotely paying lower rent.
Our beloved mayor is requesting from business to mandate coming back to the office. A friend at TD tower told me they are mandated to work a minimum 3 days now in the office and that will increase to a full week by EOY.
How so? Excellent public transit for the 1970s.
We got indian immigrants getting mustangs then getting into accidents
That's pretty specific.
Keep building ridiculous bike lanes and you'll see just how much worse it will get.
Actually, bike lanes tend to do the opposite. They free up traffic in the long term
@@jonm3131 Simply, no they don't. Where are you getting that stat??? DO you drive? I do and I drive all over the city and I cycle all over the city.
Bikes lanes are dangerous.
Cyclists need to be educated to the rules of the road.
You wonder why people are moving out of the GTA.
It’s only Torontonians who have a conversation about how bad things will be in the future. Everyone else is thinking the future is now. 40 years ago GTA citizens screamed “It’s my right to drive a car”…..well….enjoy!