Pascal Coppens interview on Kuriakos TV in Portugal 23 jan 2023
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- Pascal Coppens interview on Kuriakos TV in Portugal 23 jan 2023
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00:00 How did China became an interest for you?
01:43 You wrote 2 books about China. With China's New Normal you truly amazed me on how China wants to innovate. And your most recent book "Can We Trust China? you deal with a lot of misunderstandings. Can you explain more about the title?
06:00 You explain about circles of trust in China. I was surprised not to see the communist part as core circle. Can you explain more about the Chinese family culture and trust between Chinese?
8:40 In your book you compare the Western lens with the Chinese lens. A first one is about the bond quality of products in China. Is that still the case today and why do Chinese believe the West kept China in a straightjacket? How do Chinese look at intellectual property? Did they steal everything from us?
12.14: China is a 5,000 year civilisation. Is this why Chinese feel disrespected? How about the fact that Chinese don't keep agreements? Did Chinese learn from us to get rich? Were Chinese involved in writing the international regulation? Is China more or less open?
17:38 What is impact from confucianism when it comes to trust, relationships and speed? How can they be cautious and go fast at same time? Should we be worried about Yellow Peril that China would want to create an imperial state? Isn't it the West that colonised many countries instead?
Are we living again in a bipolar world with U.S. versus China instead of Soviet Union and U.S. before?
22.27 China has the biggest middle-class in the world. Do they still prefer Western brands or is this changing as well? What do the Chinese consumers want?
25:25 How about transparency of China? Can we trust the data from China? How protected are consumers with their data? Why are Chinese very careful or not transparent with sharing data? How does Beijing communicate with the Chinese citizens?
30:19 What can citizens say and not say? Can people protest in China? What did this mean for China? Are Chinese free at all? Can you explain more about when you talk about double standards the West have when it comes to China?
35:30 Is Xi Jinping similar to Mao? What is Xi or Beijing most worried about? Is Xi mainly providing problems or solutions? You write China sees themselves as a democracy. What do you mean with that? What is the relationship between business and government in China? And isn't China building many not-effective infrastructure and is this a risk for China?
44:30 What is your experience when we talk about human rights in China? What is happening and how is it evolving? Is one of the problems also about how China communicates about human rights? Final question: Can we trust China? And has the West made it more difficult as well to trust China?
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I will relocate to Thailand in 2025 as my wife is from there we plan on a trip to Laos then on to China by Chinese high speed train I am looking forward to the experience.
It will be a great trip. Best wishes!
Great interview!
The host ask really intelligent unbiased question staying clear of the usual mainstream media narratives of the West.
He did indeed.
Freedom is not the right to do what you want . But the liberty to do what you ought
Good interview, highly respectful to Mr. Coppens, deep knowledges for the Chinese culture and history, understanding what is going on for the East and the West and the differences
Thanks!
Well said!
Knowledge of
“Benevolent Dictatorship” was the term the Banana Republic of America (BRA) coined for Lee Kuan Yew (LKY) and Singapore who took the island from a swampy piece of rock into one of the wealthiest and most modern cities in the world in one generation! China has basically learned from and is broadly following that model after Deng Xiao Ping’s visit to Singapore in the early ‘70’s. He was so impressed by the Singapore that he saw then already. The catalyst was when LKY reminded Deng that Singapore’s majority Chinese population were mostly descendants of mainland Chinese immigrants who made good, what could happen to China when its 1.4b peoples wake up and got going guided by good governance like Singapore’s? Hence, “Socialism with Chinese Characteristics” was born. Don’t worry about “Democracy” or “Capitalism” especially those with special BRA characteristics……….to each it’s own and whatever works is good for its peoples.
Banana Republic of America , so true !
The basic issue is if the Chinese prefer their current evolving form of Government why is the West against it? They have seen what the so-called democracy can do to a chaotic society through competition based on sheer money strength. As Kishore said, China never had it so good over the past 2,000 years. Chinese also accept the basic fact that nothing is free in this world, some form of sacrifice has to give way. Hence, they will blend and also compete within their society, often chaotic and always towards their objectives! It is common behaviour even among the overseas Chinese who struggle to amass their riches and then give away their gains to build private schools to provide education to the lesser members of their society.
The USA has become a plutocracy just like my home country the UK as the Chinese middle class expands the USA has become the first ever country to become a post middle class economy. The same is happening in the UK under the Tories.
Pascal, you're in my country. I hope you like being there. It's an honor for my country to welcome someone as wise as you are.
Will try and come more often! Really enjoy the country and hospitality!
@@PascalCoppens Good!
Yeah. Pascal is Lao Tzu from Ghent.
we need 3 hours interview, not just 45 mins
That I agree.
Mr. Coppen's in-depth understanding of China background and policies is admirable.
London installed all the cameras, signing in and out of business buildings, bag searches,
high security from the time of Irish IRA bombings, etc. in the time of the Thatcher, Blair ....
Thank you Pascal, for sharing this very informative interview with us.
My pleasure!
Always a pleasure to listen to Pascal’s knowledge, if only these views could be more unilateral.
Thanks!
" if only these views could be more unilateral." ？？？"Unilateral"？？？
Very interesting interview, thank you to both of you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing interview, good host and great guest 😊
Wow fantastic interview very enlightening thank you for sharing this useful information !
Thanks!
Good to hear a different narrative other than those of the main stream news outlets. Mr. Coppens has some very interesting points here. Thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it
WOW! Congrats on TV! Need more interviews like this. Thanks so much for sharing your experience about China from Western perspective.
Thank you! Will do!
A great interview. Love the fact that both of you are talking about what is generally controversial and intensely divisive subjects with such a reasonable and fair attitude.
Just a word on "Democratic Dictatorship (民主专制）".
The first of the last two ideograms means "Focus, focused, Concentrate, Concentration, Expert, Expertise, or essentially acts or actions showing dedication and expertise". The final ideogram means "measure and cut or execute; essentially act or actions that measure out and, through faithful execution, bring about the desired result". The ideograms would be better interpreted as "People's Primacy Dedicated Governance". The idea that is communicated is "governance with people's primacy as its aim (please note the term "people，" which is not to be confused with "individual"). This idea is simplified by the Communist Party of China in its phrase "Serve the People," or 为人民服务。
Thanks for clarifying!
Great Interview and able to "understand" the Rainbow in China as well as in our own countries. Faced with the resource and Climate crisis then most existing consumer economies will need to reduce their use of resources, other areas like Africa have still to arrive to a minimum average level of consumption. Globally we need to feel part of our shared realities and ensure our Governments reflect our views rather than autocracies! We do not need Emperors, Tzars, Kings etc but transparent and honest bureaucracies
Thanks! True
Merci
Aver plaisir
With a population of 1.4 billions hard-working, innovative & enterprising citizens, China has been growing by leaps & bounds, since the opening up China to the World in the year 1978 initiated by the past great Chinese leader Deng Xiao Peng.
The excellent model of economic success of China in the last 3 decades, cannot be exported or copied by any other countries in the World!
China will say nothing against that if.any country wants to copy the Chinese model. But I guess it's really difficult to copy.
Thanks ! A breath of fresh air that invites you to learn more, grazie
My pleasure!
Thanks again Pascal! I think you made a great point that we ought to understand China from a cultural context in order to work together for a better world. I think everyone should be watching this in order to understand what China is about and not just form negative impressions from our Western lens. Well done and thanks again!
Thanks!
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🇨🇳🇨🇳Thanks for this🇨🇳🇨🇳clarifying interview🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳without subjective innuendos 47:30
Thank you for sharing this interview🙂👍🙂
Glad you enjoyed it!
Expect the difference, respect the unexpected value- remain calm and carry on.
Nice words
Enjoyed your conversations very much Pascal! Appreciated a lot to your deep knowledge towards china, subscribed😄except there is one point i can not agree to you when you talk about human rights relates to Xinjiang and HK. Let me tell you my experience from three decades ago: my primary classmate who shared the same desk with me for years, she was from XinJiang originally as she has light brown hair and fair skin, i was so surprised to know when we graduated that she could get into the best secondary school with 10 scores exemption because she is a minority, we heard about it and all accepted it with no problem, do you know why? because we were taught consistently since little that we are families from 56 ethnic groups, and we love each other as brothers and sisters. Literally the so called human right issue is totally different dimension compared Chinese culture to the western, conceptually its just different.
I am aware of benefits the minorities get in China as opposed to Han Chinese. Nevertheless, Xinjiang has been target to repression more than in other areas of China. This is what two Han Chinese friends of mine living in the Xinjiang region have confirmed too. To what extent is debatable of course as I also do not believe many stories being read in Western media about Xinjiang to be genuine.
i moved to Canada in 1975 and I recall seeing a few coverage on TV about China. real poor. mostly bicycles. kids lucky to get rice no meat sometimes. Chinese went through tough times. i happy to see China out of poverty thanks to Chinese Government system., glory to Russia and china.. regarding Human Rights. look at what the British did to the Native population in Canada and US . stole their land killed off most of them and drove them into the forest region and still in poor living conditions. same thing with Portugal in Brazil or Spain in south America or Central America. same situation in Australia with the Native population but all those Human Rights are suppressed by British and European colonization. how about India and Africa colonizers ?? they should be re paid
India will be superpower by 2020 or earlier, they said it on 1998, their former president wrote a book about it !!
The difference is that this prediction for China is not made by the Chinese themselves. The prediction that China will collapse in a few years, thought, was made by at least one chinese, at least of chinese ethnicity .
@@tsuikr This may seem to make some difference. What would ultimately count is if these predictions come true. If they don't, then they were inaccurate regardless of origin.
@@tsuikr I am talking about India, not China.
@@tsuikr , You are meaning some dude who admitted on Fox News back some years ago that his biological father was originally from China to study in the US and married his biological mother who was US citizen of Irish national origin, in order to gain the legal status to stay in the US forever. And that dude has been making himself filthy rich by duping the US-led collective West with his invention or wishful thinking of "Coming Collapse of China" for more than two decades as of now and still making fortune with the same scam.
Not sure what point you are attempting to get across with your statement.
How much can you trust a stranger who you knows little or even nothing about? Someone can pretend and gain your trust fast and easily but cannot withstand the test of time. You learn what is good and what is bad through experience perhaps the hard way. Is this rapport or relationship? You trust yourself and the lessons you learnt. This is human nature of the wise, not that of the fool.
Time for you to talk about the white balloon, Pascal.
Awaiting China's response...
@@PascalCoppens The Foreign Ministry already demanded US to return the wreckages and said US overreacted to the whole thing.
@@linphilip6389 thanks! keeping an eye on it
Nepal? Não...?
Funniest thing I heard this year. Stealing copyrights, patents and intellectual property is sharing. Sharing is caring. 💜
My book explains in much more details. Had to keep it short in TV. Chinese are also using IP rights now to fight infringements.
The narcist call it as stealing and the socialist call it as sharing.
If it was a copyright western mention it as stealing from them. How about those stealing non copy right invented from China history call. Free for all.
The US has its share of sharing and caring with UK during the industrial age.
The yellow peril is not China who was the worst victim of the same peril who has a soldier stationed in each han family. It is foolish and extremely discriminatory to view and label people based on COLOUR!
Chinese women they're like European.
They scream to the husband , and they're nice to the boyfriend . That i know.
ruclips.net/video/TE242cJMXXE/видео.html Pascal do you have any response to this?
I could give you a long explanation about BRI debt defaults, but reality is that the BRI is a project that has cost way much to China, and a very steep learning curve. China has overreached for sure and is slowing down investment or at least doing better risk assessment now than a few years ago. But the alternative was to invest its surplus USD from trade into buying USD bonds that America would be loaning or using domestically again to fuel its own economy. So investing excess USD in countries around in Southern hemisphere is a second worse alternative on short term, but could be great on long term. I once made a video on BRI ruclips.net/video/SZp0zIr6z3M/видео.html
@@PascalCoppens hmm, will revert after seeing the video tomorrow.
@@PascalCoppens Sorry I just can't buy your story of milk and honey and goodwill and best intentions, for I too have some idea of how Chinese "think".
Even going by your story Pakistan is a country and place about which the Chinese cannot claim any ignorance of people, culture, geography, other issues. Yet they made it the show case of BRI.
Hambantota port in Sri Lanka was absolutely next to Colombo and had no reason at all to ever be financially viable, yet it was done.
And really you want us to swallow that " it was only commercial" and that Chinese govt was not involved beyond being a "benign indulgent grandfather looking at his children going out to do good to those who were crying out for it".
Yes, there was overcapacity and overflowing coffers with China.
Yes it is a case of learning on the go.
Yes it is a case of ignorance " willfully excercised" of issues with borrowing countries.
But that is all that I find believable in your narrative.
For the rest, it is a very worn out paper over long term malignant intentions.
Chinese state well knew that for foreseeable future the projects were unviable and the loans unserviceable.
It openened up doors to envisioning a way to force those states to toe the Chinese line for a long enough time to overturn the system in place. To allow China to use the muscle to shape the world to its own vision.
A state which allowed or rather encouraged, investment of billions of dollars in projects with concrete viability, cannot ever be so naive as you portray. Frankly impossible even for dictatorships. Even imagining China, a hard nosed, beurocratic and iron fisted country as such a state would ensure me a cell in cuckooland.
Sorry Sir. No way.
I can never understand why someone who is supposed to be a real China expert and yet keeps on bringing up propaganda points like "Uyghur genocide". It makes me question the entire intent and legitimacy of your entire channel and all your videos. This just baffles me.
A naive view.