Thank you so much Greg until this point everything work perfectly it’s giving me some happiness in my heart that you had some trouble to fix it and it was not only me 😢 it was the most stressful experience for me to troubleshoot and nothing was working unfortunately, thank you again for the fix and the experience to meeting you, your success comes from how humble you are. Fan was never put back lol
Feeling happy for ya. Getting an Upgrade like that certainly isn't common as well, you literally just got the only Ryzen CPU which was better than the one you already got in there. Little note: I fixed a similar system for a friend recently, it was certainly the weirdest issue i've ever encountered. However, I only had a weaker chip in my shelf so I had to downgrade his brand new 5800X3D with my old trusty 3600. He's practically borrowing it until his replacement chip gets shipped. The issue, according to our market place: An internal controller kicked the bucket and made the CPU send signals to draw power beyond the actual TDP limit, resulting in hitting 95 degrees celsius right after boot. I feel like something similar might've happened here.
yo bro what you doing with that 120mm fan taking air away from your GPU? if your psu fan is taking air from inside the case then that's wrong. it has its own vent. only purpose for that fan to be there is to be pushing air towards your GPU since the h510 is a very restrictive case
@@miracula7782 it was crazy it wasn’t even that old that chip I am really excited to see a video to know what was wrong with that chip since it was working normal but the only thing I can say is that the new chip that I got thank to Greg it’s cooler in bios 38 give or take know since with the other one was always hot since I got it but I didn’t put to much atención to it since it was never over 75-80 ish it never got over 90 that it’s the danger zone that I look up on google I was thinking in was that high since it’s a stronger chip with high voltage it was normal wrong thinking in my part.
@@VoidlessOfSpace lol didn’t think to much about it but the purpose was for better airflow and temp since you mención the case it’s not the best but until I can get a new one I am stuck with it 😭 it was my first build and didn’t do the research for the case to much I was only looking for one not to expensive but not to cheap in that time only regret but I did like the simpleness on how it look I will like to mod it but a don’t have tools to do it.
Don’t know if you’ll see this Greg, but I’m really grateful you’ve been making this series. As a still relatively new pc owner of 2 years, I can safely say I’ve learned more from your videos than I ever would’ve had on my own. Thank you!
You should create a FAQ guide (word or excel sheet) for “general” pc troubleshooting as a result of your time fixing PCs’ during these series to help novices etc. I’ve been building my own PCs for over 20yrs now and I’m still finding something new on your channel.
Same here... I started building in 1985. My first was an 80386SX system. It was an amazing system at the time, but now we have smart toasters that are more powerful then that first build LoL
I have been an IT professional for 23 years and this was excellent troubleshooting, in my opinion. My first thought was the drive interface setting but it makes sense now that it was the cpu, after all. 🙂
My first thought was CPU. The symptoms are consistent with dead cores - you can disable them in the BIOS and still use the chip, especially one with such high core count.
@@b0ne91 It is usually a bad stick of ram, like 99% of the time is the ram, but those temps were way too high for idle, I think they tried to overclock by pumping up the vcore too much or the PSU is faulty.
I also have a 5900X and it always runs very hot. Not sure why but when researching it appears like the chip just runs hot. When gaming at 1440P max settings on most games I max out at around 68°. I’ve never hit above 75°. I think the viewers one was definitely faulty but the chip is very hot at idle. I’ve used 3 different coolers, reapplied paste, under volted but temps are always higher than you’d expect! Not sure why though. I wish AMD would provide info on this.
Another 5900X user here. Stock it would throttle in Cinebench R23 MT. Undervolted by .125 and it never goes above 75°, but it still idles at ~50. Granted, my cooler is basically never audible over other noise, so that may be a thing. :D Also I have all kinds of crap running so "idle" isn't exactly idle. :D
This video *literally* saved my brand new build. I put an all new PC together, and in less than 24 hrs, my computer started doing almost the exact same things; constant blue screens with different codes every time, high CPU temps in the BIOS, crashing even in the recovery utility. I went back to MicroCenter and exchanged the CPU for a new one (because all the parts were brand new, I was still within the 15 day return window). Popped in the new CPU and it’s up and running again like nothing was ever wrong. I am *beyond* grateful for this video. Thank you for taking on this man’s repair!
I had the same problem with my first build; many different blue screens, no boot. I was a noob, but after carefully re-watching the build video. I remounted the CPU correctly and much more firmly and then everything suddenly worked fine. Thanks Greg really enjoy this series.
Thank you so much for these Greg! I literally see what I’ve learned from watching this series to fox a friends pc that lost picture under load. Cleared CMOS first thing and re-seated RAM and fixed it. Much love and keep it going brother!
I found your videos several months ago and I've seen every single one in this series by now and always await the upload of the next one. It has given me way more confidence and knowledge to troubleshoot and work on my own stuff, so thanks for that.
I love this series..... it's a nice break from the drama that's been going on for the last few years. It's nice to see you cover the bases instead of going with some knee-jerk diagnosis. One time I bought a Z170-A / 6700k combo assuming the board was dead, but it turned out the 6700k was fried. I have a Ryzen system with a 420mm Arctic LF II and the temps are always high in the BIOS. In programs like HWmonitor, HWInfo64, and CPU-Z I always see the core voltages spike up to something absurd like 1.43v, but the vcore will even out to 1.25v when the cores are loaded. It seems like these Zen 2 and Zen 3 chips get too much voltage for these single core clock-boosts. Inconsistent BSOD's like Whea Uncorrectable error, IRQL not less or equal, Page fault in Nonpaged area, etc are common with overclocked processors that aren't stable.... or degraded processors. In my experience with overclocking Intel processors and looking over OC forums, it seems the people that set their Vcore to +1.4v for the long term ended up with degraded CPU's.
I would have liked to have seen you reinstall the original cpu to confirm the cpu was the issue. There is a possibility that the problem was a one-time mounting issue with the cpu and socket.
Had a Ryzen 5 3600 doing the same thing. I suspected a motherboard so my first test was same as yours. Everything worked normally after the cpu swap. Tested the cpu in another motherboard - blue screens and weird behavior. Great video and thanks for keeping after it for the learning.
I also had a R5 3600 that blue screened every 15 to 30 minutes. At first I thought it was the drive so I reinstalled Windows on another M.2 and updated the motherboard bios but still had the same blue screen issue. I eventually got a new Ryzen 7 5800X cpu and my machine has been running great for months now.
Not gonna lie, since I watch your FOF series I’ve been more confident to try and fix my PC problems on my own. I even built my current PC and did a BIOS flash + update! Thanks for the series!
Happen to me with a ryzen 7 3700x. Constant blue screens and eventually got into the same loop of blue screens and windows repair. Bought a ryzen 5 5600x and haven’t have a blue screen in months. Love this series. Keep it up!
Great work Greg! One of my favorite episodes so far! Really interesting and got me completely flabbergasted! I didnt even know this sort of thing could happen and the diverse range of BSOD was just WTF?!
Love your videos, Greg. I have to say, whatever camera you use to film your vids, the quality is astounding. I upgraded to a 4K OLED monitor this week and the quality of your footage at 4K is sublime. Keep up the great work. :)
had a similar or almost exact problem like here, my pc randomly started overheating above 100c and started to bluescreen, each different from one another. after some sweat and tears, i’ve decided to reinstall windows and format the whole drive which somehow fixed it, i have to say i had to be fast because the longest my system could go without bluescreening was about 2 minutes. never want to go through that again, pcs are weird sometimes love this series and the amount of brainstorming you’re putting into them, also caring for your viewer’s parts and satisfaction
Would love to see a follow-up vid on this CPU in another motherboard, maybe different ram config. CPU deaths are rare, the more info there is the better.
sometimes it can be some dust in between the cpu and the socket. I've had that problem on an older system, everything is okay but couldn't boot until I removed the cpu and gave the socket a shot of air then reinstalled the same cpu. Excellent work for finding the problem! Took me a whole day to figure out mine
I used to be a repair tech for Apple. You wouldn't believe some of the weird things I've seen. A topcase to a laptop that was shorting the MLB, went through quite a few MLBs before we figured that out. Computer wouldn't start because of a bad battery for some reason. Once we had a fan that was putting the laptop into a boot loop.
I had a lenovo laptop where the wifi was integrated into the board itself and was not a separate module it died, they replaced the entire board for free and replaced the case i basically got a new pc out of it. My current pc has 2 m.2 drives the 512 gb boot that it came with and the 1tb wd sn530 drive that i bought to upgrade alongside 32gb of gskill ram its a laptop btw.
I have this MacBook from 2012 that used to act like it was dead. Wouldn't show battery level and wouldn't turn on. It would be dead until I slammed the screen shut and then it would turn on. Took it in to get looked at once and pretty sure they didn't even take a look at it cause they told me it was dead and nothing they could do. Went home slammed it again and it turned on. Still not sure what was happening, but it still works to this day and stopped doing it.
@@pilsplease7561 Yeah I don't know. Thought it was something to do with battery connection in some way, but it wouldn't't work even when plugged in. So who knows.
@@Joes2016 I know some laptop computers have a switch thats tripped when you open them up so they wont run if thats tripped because they think they are closed. That might be what was going on.
A lot of troubleshooting leads to a quick & easy fix. I think you do a good service Greg, no out of pocket charges & people can learn along with you. Everybody gains!
EDIT: You can request the warranty yourself when you're done with the testing, but essentially the memory controller is DOA. The 5900X is a beautiful unit, but they do suffer from memory controller issues, which is seen frequently. This CPU has 3 years of warranty and AMD will replace it without complaint. Just have him call AMD and get a replacement. Have him reference this video for the warranty.
It's likely a dead core. I've been this a few times across many Ryzen generations. Turn off cores in the BIOS until you figure out which one it is and be left with 2/3 or 1/2 the cores.
@medicentio Hmm, maybe mine is faulty. It doesn’t get this hot and at full usage I max out at 75°. I was very worried when in the desktop I was at around 50, but once my startup apps all launched it went back to around 45. I might need to try this. Does it matter where you bought the CPU from?
@@Dylbog 40-50c on desktop is normal (at least for Ryzen 3000 and Ryzen 5000) I have had these kinds of idle temps with my previous 3900x and current 5800x3d on the Kraken x62 AIO. Some people run a lot cooler at idle but that strongly depends on the background apps you have running. You have nothing to worry about with these temperatures at idle, especially if you max out at 75c in-game.
I had the EXACT same problem with my system after doing a mobo swap, down to the same BSOD errors. Power cycled and wouldn’t boot into windows. It ended up being a conflict with the drivers for my onboard NIC and my PCIe network card. Removing the PCIe card worked like a charm since it didn’t download the drivers for it after the windows install. Great video!
Would LOVE to do this for people in my area. Unfortunately I don’t have the stock or sponsoring to replace parts. You really are living the dream Greg!!! Love the content!!!!
The original 5900 CPU overheating would tend to indicate that "upgrading" to an even more power hungry 5950 would maybe not be the best option. For future testing/trouble-shooting purposes, might want to obtain something like a lower-powered Ryzen 5 5500 CPU. As "fixed" as it now is, the system still doesn't make one too confident that the same error isn't going to re-occur soon. Could the liquid CPU cooler be clogged? Maybe.
I never would have thought it was the CPU.....i was thinking motherboard but man you always get surprises.... It's good to know i always learn something new with this channel pls, pls keep making these videos I'm always learning something new here....
Interesting video. I had almost the exact thing happen to me once or twice on my new 5800x and I was almost gonna "scream" at you about what I did to fix it. But then you talked about the temps being absurd and was instantly confused. In my case it was somehow my ram and after taking all 4 sticks out and (for some reason) swapping the second and fourth dimms it worked fine. I still had reset windows, but at least it gave me a reason to clear all my games I wasn't playing.
I had the exact same issue with my 5900x. Random blue screens of death with different error codes. Was a faulty cpu, warranty replaced and no issues since
Grest video. I had a similar problem couple of weeks ago. I spent 2 days testing everything in my system. It turn up to be a faulty motherboard. Used meanest 86 and I was getting tons of error. Similarly I had a different blue screen every time. Swapped a board and everything is back to normal. Actually system feels faster then before. Sent my board for the RMA.
my 5950x was doing the exact same, for months it would bluescreen randomly when using chrome or gaming for more than 30 minutes and was unable to reinstall windows, swapped it with a brand new 5900 and its been working perfectly since
Thank you for this, Greg!! I have a PC right now that has this issue. I already ordered the CPU replacement, but it's so cool seeing you encountering this same rare issue. Keep up the great work!
This was a great episode in that it clearly shows what can happen if they try to Overclock with no real experience. Not saying this is what he did, but the CPU problem is consistent with over voltage settings usually not always associated with overclockers ;) Usually the whole CPU will get bricked, in this instance it looks like 1 or more cores still worked but were failing at the higher temps and loads all indicators of either lighting strike or bad overclocking. Great episode!!!
I actually was given an old prebuilt gaming PC from my SIL recently that had these exact same symptoms. System posted but then immediately would crash or lock up. Loaded into the bios and it was idling at 70-80 Celsius. Problem was just that the CPU cooler was literally not fully screwed down. A quick removal, new thermal paste and putting it back together fixed the temp problem. The windows install itself was somehow corrupt after that though and still needed a reinstall of the OS.
thank you for this series. with your videos I was able to help a friend get his computer fixed, it was randomly rebooting and a replace of the motherboard fixed his issues.
Was having the same issues with my build. Worked for a few months, then my r7 5800x just gave me the BSOD and never booted into Windows again. Haven't worked on it after I swapped out the SSD, GPU, RAM and completely disassembled the system, then put it back together to have it BSOD again. I'm definitely going to get a new CPU.
When I was building my current rig, I ran into the drive problem. The bad drive, my intended boot drive, got extremely hot to the touch very quickly, along with the heatsink covering it. I tested it in a different board, same result. In my experience, even a good PCIe 4 drive wouldn't burn up like that, especially not from just trying to boot into Windows. Needless to say, the replacement drive I got actually worked, and didn't exhibit those symptoms.
You are a nice guy, Greg. Although you monetize the videos, you also fix most of the broken PCs and teach those of us watching your videos useful tips. 🙂
I've seen that fan below the video card before, but usually you'll use a spacer to get it up off the deck and have it reversed so that it helps to direct air into the GPU fans. It's a trick that was semi-popular back in the early days of larger video cards because air flow is terrible in a lot of older cases around the card itself. Over the CPU is typically good, under the GPU typically is a bit of a bad flow area. Even in some modern cases it's often overlooked. So you shove a fan above the basement to help resolve the airflow issue in some cases you'd see noticeable improvement in temps and smoke tests. Dunno, just an idea.
Hello Greg. In this video I noticed that you have already had similar experiences with the 5000. At that time there was no video output and the cpu could not control pci lanes properly either. After you were able to rule out the drive this time, my suspicion immediately fell on the CPU. Maybe you're lucky and it's a case for the RMA. By the way, I've been building my own PCs since 2005 and it's always fun to watch you troubleshooting. Thanks for this format, I enjoy every new episode. Greetings
Greg, i had this exact problem 2 years ago with my MSI 1050 Laptop that i still have to this day. I ended up fixing it by literally reinstalling a brand new version on W10, i lost a lot of college data, but i needed the laptop for a 6th credit summer class. It was an infinite loop that happened because of the SSD and the bloatware that came with the system brand new when i bought it. I am surprised it was the cpu though with this one.
Wow. Interesting video. You did everything I would have thought of except I would have tried different ram before I noticed the temp in BIOS. Also it would have taken me longer as I sat there drinking coffee going; what the hell? I thought that would work...
I had the exact same issue happen to me in the past. I found that the media creation tool fixed the problem, my guess is that it had to do with how windows was accessing the cpu and when I ran the tool to use a remote repair utility it bypassed the problem.
I have had this issue with MBR vs GPT or AHCI SATA legacy or RAID when installing windows or a backup volume and found clean install from media or re connect of devices one-at-a-time from CPU to RAM in conservative boost can sometimes fix issues.
You mentioned (around 12:00) the pump felt very weak. So you replaced the cooked CPU but put the old cooler with the weak pump back in? Isn't there a big chance the weak pump will fry the 5950X and owner of system would have the same problem back again? Hope you at least told him it would be wise to replace the AIO within a short period of time?
Weak pump because it was likely calibrated within the BIOS to run at a much lower operating RPM. Modern CPUs won't "fry" themselves. They shut off when they hit t_junciton and can't throttle back any further. This was an older video, so I don't recall the specifics.
Hi Greg. Ty for theese series... I am learning a lot. I actually have this excact issue with and old CPU Keep doing what you're doing Greetings Frem Denmark
First thing I noticed was the AIO Rad is mounted upside-down allowing for air bubbles to get sucked into the block. A bad overclock with incorrect RAM timings can cause issues too.
I had a 5900x do the exact same thing to me on launch day on an AsRock board. However Its been working fine in my Dark Hero board ever since. AsRock board has been running a 5800x3d just fine ever since.
I love these videos, also let me share my really recent story: I've had my rig since 2014, assembled it myself and it's gone through hell and high water no problem, until a month ago when suddenly one day I had one blue screen, then another, the another, THEN ANOTHER until my OS finally couldn't even open properly (same as here every screen had a different exception), so I took the safe route and let the recovery environment do a fresh W10 install for me, I felt kind of relieved to find out that my only problem was my SSD just dying down since after doing that fresh install it stopped loading some time after the post and the initial system check, so I managed to point out my issue and fixed it quickly, all in all I panicked big time thinking my whole rig was about to go to the grave and my soul came back to me after I made sure everything was working just fine, but now I'm thinking about upgrading because well, it's about time I guess.
Great vid. Gives me ideas for my problems. Been having the same problems before and some times again. My findings were the RAM sticks, weirdly enough, and it's those Corsair Vengeance RAM sticks too.
I've recently had a similar experience where my 5800x started to die on me. I was getting CPU related blue screens as well as random shutdowns/restarts. After testing different ram sticks, motherboards, and PSUs, I was able to narrow it down to the CPU when the blue screens and restarts stopped when I swapped to a 3700x. According to OCCT stress testing it was a bad core that was causing the constant errors.
Any time you have consistent OS corruption like that and Bsods, I would recommend running memtest. Usually a sign of bad ram, or failing memory controller in the CPU.
Had the same problem with 5600x in a buid I just made. Constant reboots and and only had problems when booting into windows bios was fine. Has had return chip and get new one.
This is great content yet again! i never knew a higher CPU package temp (in BIOS) could actually restrict an entire system to post or go past recovery. then again it does make total sense if the CPU needs to load files and programs, it gets even hotter to a critical point and locks it up due to safety features. im sure 99% of us blamed the drive (being corrupt), i know i did lol.
Might be worth delidding. But I suspect a dead core (you can turn that off in the BIOS) - possibly due to too much heat since it didn't contact the IHS correctly.
Same happened to me a couple months ago with my 5900X. I played with PBO and LLC3 and after a year it was doing what yours did, if I pumped 0.08v more vcore it worked again (although I bought a replacement). (You could try that)
I noticed a lot of people talking about how the h510 case is bad and it's a hot box. If you really like the look though (like me) and don't want another case you can easily find acrylic panels with custom laser cut ventilation holes for the h510 and elite to fix that problem. I got some for my h510 elite case and she looks and runs like a dream.
Had this same issue after a Bios update and redone the Bios Update and it fixed the Temps. Don't know why but it was throwing alot of voltage at my R9 3900x.
I also had a 5950X that started dying on me. It ran perfectly fine for two years but one day, it just started causing the system to crash and randomly restart. I was getting the same "Page Fault in Nonpaged Area" and WHEA errors as well. Good thing it was still under warranty. I filed an RMA and got a replacement from AMD. No more random crashes or restarts.
Years back, I had this same issue on a four core AMD processor which constantly gave a blue screen with different reasons listed every time it crashed. It turned out that one of the four cores was actually bad. When I disabled the core in Windows 7 startup using msconfig, it worked just fine, but only as a two core. The way the core was positioned on the CPU, I was forced to turn off one of the good cores with the bad one so it effectively became a "duel core" processor. I still use that system to play the original Skyrim and a few older games every now and then, with an HD 7750 GPU. It works pretty well! 👍👍
Hi Greg, I also have a 5900X and the temps on this thing are weirdly almost always high. In the desktop I idle at around 47°… When gaming I never go above 75°. I’ve tried everything, changed cooler, reapplied thermal paste etc and after some research the chip just runs very hot regardless of cooling. Fantastic CPU otherwise!
As long as your temps aren’t rising slowly while the system is idle then your fine honestly. 47c idle is a bit on the hotter side of idle temps but perfectly acceptable especially as you did say it doesn’t go past 75c (tjmax of your cpu is 90c) while gaming so in most cases the idle temp doesn’t matter too much. If i was you i wouldn’t worry about it and keep gaming! But If you still looking at maybe trying to lower your cpu temps; -Check your ambient room temp and see if you can cool it if its on the hotter side. -In the bios if you are comfortable you could try and undervolt your cpu by setting voltages yourself but like i said only do this if you are comfortable and make sure to check guides and acceptable voltage ranges for your cpu since you could fry the system SO BE VERY CAREFUL! -Set a more aggressively fan curve within the bios or MSI afterburner more noise tho, up to you. -If using a Aio have the fans as intake which will cool the cpu slightly better however, GPU in return will run a bit hotter nothing to crazy if your gpu is already fine. Generally this doesn’t matter too much as long as theres airflow but it is an option.
@@ranjnijan3446 Thank you for all of the points! I might try flipping the AIO to intake as it's currently set to exhaust at the top of my case. I replaced the included NZXT fans with the Lian Li AL-120's that I got instead. I have 3 set to intake and 3 (on the AIO) for exhaust. The temps are fine and stay stable when idle/not gaming. As soon as I go into a game, they slowly ramp up to around 70 and then go up or down a few degrees. I've not had any blue screens or issues, so I'll leave it for now and try some of your suggestions if I have issues. Thanks!
I ran into something similar when I cloned my dads hard drive to a new SSD. I formatted the old hard drive and hooked it back up and everything went to crap. Two copies of UEFI boot stuff nuked it. I had to utilize diskpart to clean the hard drive and rebuild the UEFI boot stuff from a recovery command prompt. Although I don't remember if the BSODs were random - they were definitely alternating between them and repair.
I had a *very* similar situation moving from a 3400G to a 5600X (brand new) on an Asrock Phantom Gaming X570 Wi-Fi ax motherboard…and it was the BIOS. Windows kept freezing at the same point, but entering BIOS worked fine. Resetting CMOS? Nothing. Last ditch before nuking the OS decided to update the BIOS from USB (previous BIOS was compatible with 5600x, I checked). Haven’t had an issue since! Booted immediately. Wish you would have checked BIOS version too. CPU might have been ok. Did user recently change CPU? Maybe it needed a microcode update. Glad the 5*50x worked and the user got an upgrade. Also glad you’re going to check the old CPU! I suspect it’s fine and just needed a different BIOS.😊
I have faced kinda the same issue too! I was able to boot into windows but booting up sometimes will show up random bsod or hang in the welcome screen or either black screen after the mobo logo+windows loading circle screen, but powering on and off several times solves it tho.
Dang Greg! A few months ago I also ran into this problem while working on a friend's pc that I built for him. He had a 5600g in it and it had the exact same problems. Everything worked great until it was time to load into windows. Turned out that the CPU had died and I had to RMA it. It was the first time that I had run into a problem of a CPU dieing while being kept in a good environment. My best guess is that there is some hardware degradation happening when the motherboard pushes a little too much voltage either in the Vcore or VSoc. I was watching a buildzoid video not that long ago and he was talking about after some CPU's go bad he has to push excessive VSoc voltage to even get the machine to function.
Had exactly this issue on my i7 7700k years ago. Warranty swapped everything but the CPU and still had the issue, cpu was out of warranty and didn't have the money to replace it. Went a few years without pc and ended up going to ryzen when I had the money to buy components again. i7 still sits in the brand new mobo in the loft.
I'm not surprised Greg, I had a Ryzen 7 5800X which had a similar problem, whenever I opened a browser it would crash, whenever I opened a game, it would close aftwra second, no BSODs or error messages, I discovered my CPU was faulty, the only way I could run it was by locking the clock at 4.6 Ghz on the bios, and still I'd have some eventual BSODs, I decided to sell it (the person was told about the issue previously) and got myself an i7 11700KF.
Great show Greg, I really enjoy fix or flop. Watched it from S01 to the latest. From my experience in PC's some of the old hardware specially the mobo can get fixed by spraying fast drying contact cleaner. Usually it fixes ram slots, pcie slots or some random problem (booting issues, on/ off issues). I dont know if spraying contact cleaner can harm the hardware or not. I magically bring a dead GPU by disassemby it and spray it, just lucky i guess 😂 What's ur thougt about that? I only used it on old hardware specially if those things are dirty and its only office PC's Keep up the good work man 🙏
I had this SAME issue months ago with my x570 Dark Hero and 5900x build. I replaced everything trying to figure out what it could be. Ended up being the CPU just like this one. I was shouting, "it's the CPU!" the entire video, which I assume was very helpful to you.
I've had a similar issue with my PC a while ago when I was running my 2TB HDD as a boot drive and all the file jazz. Had to put the drive in another PC as an "extra memory" and get every piece of important information. Reinstalled the windows, then a short time later upgraded to NVMe and set everything up and it's going strong, the HDD that I was using is still in good use. But I'm glad that I did not have the issue that Greg had to deal with with this PC, which would be really frustrating...
i had the exact same problem! ik had a ryzen 5 3600 that kept overheating no matter what cooler i put on it(even just in windows it was at about 75-80 degrees). I had the cpu about 1 and a half year before it started doing this. As a last resort i got a new cpu put my cooler on it and everything worked fine!
WoW yeah at first i thought it was the ssd drive as well ... but yeah the temps were hi good catch there Greg but as it did post i dident think it was the cpu but a good win Greg ... thumbs up
Bullseye repair job Greg, did you happen to notice the idle temp with the working CPU or can you tell me what it should be aprox., if not it's all good. Thanks for the adventure!
I know I'm a little late to comment on this video, but I had a similar issue with my PC several months back where it kept throwing random blue screens just like this, but mine were occurring after boot. Some of these blue screens like the nonpaged area one were the same that I was getting, along with a few others including system syntax error. Ultimately it ended up being a bad ram stick that was causing all of the issues. I changed it out with another of the exact same type that was bought at the same time and everything worked perfectly from then on. It was literally just one of the sticks went bad.
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Thank you so much Greg until this point everything work perfectly it’s giving me some happiness in my heart that you had some trouble to fix it and it was not only me 😢 it was the most stressful experience for me to troubleshoot and nothing was working unfortunately, thank you again for the fix and the experience to meeting you, your success comes from how humble you are. Fan was never put back lol
Glad she's up and running again! Thanks for reaching out. Let me know if any issues pop back up!
Feeling happy for ya. Getting an Upgrade like that certainly isn't common as well, you literally just got the only Ryzen CPU which was better than the one you already got in there.
Little note: I fixed a similar system for a friend recently, it was certainly the weirdest issue i've ever encountered. However, I only had a weaker chip in my shelf so I had to downgrade his brand new 5800X3D with my old trusty 3600. He's practically borrowing it until his replacement chip gets shipped. The issue, according to our market place: An internal controller kicked the bucket and made the CPU send signals to draw power beyond the actual TDP limit, resulting in hitting 95 degrees celsius right after boot. I feel like something similar might've happened here.
yo bro what you doing with that 120mm fan taking air away from your GPU? if your psu fan is taking air from inside the case then that's wrong. it has its own vent. only purpose for that fan to be there is to be pushing air towards your GPU since the h510 is a very restrictive case
@@miracula7782 it was crazy it wasn’t even that old that chip I am really excited to see a video to know what was wrong with that chip since it was working normal but the only thing I can say is that the new chip that I got thank to Greg it’s cooler in bios 38 give or take know since with the other one was always hot since I got it but I didn’t put to much atención to it since it was never over 75-80 ish it never got over 90 that it’s the danger zone that I look up on google I was thinking in was that high since it’s a stronger chip with high voltage it was normal wrong thinking in my part.
@@VoidlessOfSpace lol didn’t think to much about it but the purpose was for better airflow and temp since you mención the case it’s not the best but until I can get a new one I am stuck with it 😭 it was my first build and didn’t do the research for the case to much I was only looking for one not to expensive but not to cheap in that time only regret but I did like the simpleness on how it look I will like to mod it but a don’t have tools to do it.
Don’t know if you’ll see this Greg, but I’m really grateful you’ve been making this series. As a still relatively new pc owner of 2 years, I can safely say I’ve learned more from your videos than I ever would’ve had on my own. Thank you!
What aio cooler do you have I really like it and I have the same case
You should create a FAQ guide (word or excel sheet) for “general” pc troubleshooting as a result of your time fixing PCs’ during these series to help novices etc. I’ve been building my own PCs for over 20yrs now and I’m still finding something new on your channel.
From everything I've seen in this playlist, the general answer to potential issues is "it could literally be ANYTHING"
Same here... I started building in 1985. My first was an 80386SX system. It was an amazing system at the time, but now we have smart toasters that are more powerful then that first build LoL
I have been an IT professional for 23 years and this was excellent troubleshooting, in my opinion. My first thought was the drive interface setting but it makes sense now that it was the cpu, after all. 🙂
My first thought was CPU. The symptoms are consistent with dead cores - you can disable them in the BIOS and still use the chip, especially one with such high core count.
@@b0ne91 well this is a first for me, dead cores are a thing. who knew 😶
@@b0ne91 TIL individual cores can die
@@b0ne91 I've had the exact same symptoms with a bad stick of RAM, same BSOD error code.
@@b0ne91 It is usually a bad stick of ram, like 99% of the time is the ram, but those temps were way too high for idle, I think they tried to overclock by pumping up the vcore too much or the PSU is faulty.
What were the temps on the new chip? I'd wonder whether the MB caused the chip failure.
that was my question as well
The owner posted it above in the pinned comment, 38C at idle using Greg's cpu.
Nah a short in the cpu probably causes it to heat up.
I also have a 5900X and it always runs very hot. Not sure why but when researching it appears like the chip just runs hot. When gaming at 1440P max settings on most games I max out at around 68°. I’ve never hit above 75°. I think the viewers one was definitely faulty but the chip is very hot at idle. I’ve used 3 different coolers, reapplied paste, under volted but temps are always higher than you’d expect! Not sure why though. I wish AMD would provide info on this.
Another 5900X user here. Stock it would throttle in Cinebench R23 MT. Undervolted by .125 and it never goes above 75°, but it still idles at ~50. Granted, my cooler is basically never audible over other noise, so that may be a thing. :D Also I have all kinds of crap running so "idle" isn't exactly idle. :D
This video *literally* saved my brand new build. I put an all new PC together, and in less than 24 hrs, my computer started doing almost the exact same things; constant blue screens with different codes every time, high CPU temps in the BIOS, crashing even in the recovery utility. I went back to MicroCenter and exchanged the CPU for a new one (because all the parts were brand new, I was still within the 15 day return window). Popped in the new CPU and it’s up and running again like nothing was ever wrong. I am *beyond* grateful for this video. Thank you for taking on this man’s repair!
I had the same problem with my first build; many different blue screens, no boot. I was a noob, but after carefully re-watching the build video. I remounted the CPU correctly and much more firmly and then everything suddenly worked fine. Thanks Greg really enjoy this series.
I am having the same issue - did you find that your cpu was placed on the mobo incorrectly and that flipping it in the first position fixed the issue?
Thank you so much for these Greg! I literally see what I’ve learned from watching this series to fox a friends pc that lost picture under load. Cleared CMOS first thing and re-seated RAM and fixed it. Much love and keep it going brother!
I found your videos several months ago and I've seen every single one in this series by now and always await the upload of the next one. It has given me way more confidence and knowledge to troubleshoot and work on my own stuff, so thanks for that.
Glad you like them!
I love this series..... it's a nice break from the drama that's been going on for the last few years. It's nice to see you cover the bases instead of going with some knee-jerk diagnosis.
One time I bought a Z170-A / 6700k combo assuming the board was dead, but it turned out the 6700k was fried.
I have a Ryzen system with a 420mm Arctic LF II and the temps are always high in the BIOS. In programs like HWmonitor, HWInfo64, and CPU-Z I always see the core voltages spike up to something absurd like 1.43v, but the vcore will even out to 1.25v when the cores are loaded. It seems like these Zen 2 and Zen 3 chips get too much voltage for these single core clock-boosts.
Inconsistent BSOD's like Whea Uncorrectable error, IRQL not less or equal, Page fault in Nonpaged area, etc are common with overclocked processors that aren't stable.... or degraded processors. In my experience with overclocking Intel processors and looking over OC forums, it seems the people that set their Vcore to +1.4v for the long term ended up with degraded CPU's.
I would have liked to have seen you reinstall the original cpu to confirm the cpu was the issue. There is a possibility that the problem was a one-time mounting issue with the cpu and socket.
I mean he'd worked on it for hours and hours, I don't really blame him.
mhhm but he swop the AIO to an air cooler.. so i dont think this was the issue
Had a Ryzen 5 3600 doing the same thing. I suspected a motherboard so my first test was same as yours. Everything worked normally after the cpu swap. Tested the cpu in another motherboard - blue screens and weird behavior. Great video and thanks for keeping after it for the learning.
I also had a R5 3600 that blue screened every 15 to 30 minutes. At first I thought it was the drive so I reinstalled Windows on another M.2 and updated the motherboard bios but still had the same blue screen issue. I eventually got a new Ryzen 7 5800X cpu and my machine has been running great for months now.
Not gonna lie, since I watch your FOF series I’ve been more confident to try and fix my PC problems on my own. I even built my current PC and did a BIOS flash + update! Thanks for the series!
You never forget your first build! :)
Happen to me with a ryzen 7 3700x. Constant blue screens and eventually got into the same loop of blue screens and windows repair. Bought a ryzen 5 5600x and haven’t have a blue screen in months. Love this series. Keep it up!
The 5600 cpus are good little CPUs.
I always enjoy fix or flop. Its always a mystery and Greg as a detective to see whats the problem. Keep it up!
I enjoy how honest you are about this series. Great vid Greg
These videos are satisfying when you get these PC's working again 👍
Great work Greg! One of my favorite episodes so far! Really interesting and got me completely flabbergasted! I didnt even know this sort of thing could happen and the diverse range of BSOD was just WTF?!
Thank you Greg for another episode of fix or flop!
Thanks for watching!
Love your videos, Greg. I have to say, whatever camera you use to film your vids, the quality is astounding. I upgraded to a 4K OLED monitor this week and the quality of your footage at 4K is sublime. Keep up the great work. :)
Me to the thumbnail king:
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_LOOK AT ME!_
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_i captain now_
Yes captain!
HOORAH!
Lemme drive the boat
Aye aye, cap'n! By the way your thumbnail is pretty funny. XD
That computer should just up and say, "Bruh, your computer's f**kin' BORKED. Use this QR code and trash it. lololololol"
had a similar or almost exact problem like here, my pc randomly started overheating above 100c and started to bluescreen, each different from one another. after some sweat and tears, i’ve decided to reinstall windows and format the whole drive which somehow fixed it, i have to say i had to be fast because the longest my system could go without bluescreening was about 2 minutes. never want to go through that again, pcs are weird sometimes
love this series and the amount of brainstorming you’re putting into them, also caring for your viewer’s parts and satisfaction
Would love to see a follow-up vid on this CPU in another motherboard, maybe different ram config. CPU deaths are rare, the more info there is the better.
sometimes it can be some dust in between the cpu and the socket. I've had that problem on an older system, everything is okay but couldn't boot until I removed the cpu and gave the socket a shot of air then reinstalled the same cpu. Excellent work for finding the problem! Took me a whole day to figure out mine
I used to be a repair tech for Apple. You wouldn't believe some of the weird things I've seen. A topcase to a laptop that was shorting the MLB, went through quite a few MLBs before we figured that out. Computer wouldn't start because of a bad battery for some reason. Once we had a fan that was putting the laptop into a boot loop.
I had a lenovo laptop where the wifi was integrated into the board itself and was not a separate module it died, they replaced the entire board for free and replaced the case i basically got a new pc out of it.
My current pc has 2 m.2 drives the 512 gb boot that it came with and the 1tb wd sn530 drive that i bought to upgrade alongside 32gb of gskill ram its a laptop btw.
I have this MacBook from 2012 that used to act like it was dead. Wouldn't show battery level and wouldn't turn on. It would be dead until I slammed the screen shut and then it would turn on. Took it in to get looked at once and pretty sure they didn't even take a look at it cause they told me it was dead and nothing they could do. Went home slammed it again and it turned on. Still not sure what was happening, but it still works to this day and stopped doing it.
@@Joes2016 wtf
@@pilsplease7561 Yeah I don't know. Thought it was something to do with battery connection in some way, but it wouldn't't work even when plugged in. So who knows.
@@Joes2016 I know some laptop computers have a switch thats tripped when you open them up so they wont run if thats tripped because they think they are closed. That might be what was going on.
A lot of troubleshooting leads to a quick & easy fix. I think you do a good service Greg, no out of pocket charges & people can learn along with you. Everybody gains!
EDIT: You can request the warranty yourself when you're done with the testing, but essentially the memory controller is DOA.
The 5900X is a beautiful unit, but they do suffer from memory controller issues, which is seen frequently. This CPU has 3 years of warranty and AMD will replace it without complaint. Just have him call AMD and get a replacement. Have him reference this video for the warranty.
It's likely a dead core. I've been this a few times across many Ryzen generations. Turn off cores in the BIOS until you figure out which one it is and be left with 2/3 or 1/2 the cores.
@medicentio Hmm, maybe mine is faulty. It doesn’t get this hot and at full usage I max out at 75°. I was very worried when in the desktop I was at around 50, but once my startup apps all launched it went back to around 45. I might need to try this. Does it matter where you bought the CPU from?
@@Dylbog doesn't matter.
@@medicentio ty for letting me know. I might do it and see if my skew was actually faulty or if it does just run THAT hot...
@@Dylbog 40-50c on desktop is normal (at least for Ryzen 3000 and Ryzen 5000) I have had these kinds of idle temps with my previous 3900x and current 5800x3d on the Kraken x62 AIO. Some people run a lot cooler at idle but that strongly depends on the background apps you have running. You have nothing to worry about with these temperatures at idle, especially if you max out at 75c in-game.
I had the EXACT same problem with my system after doing a mobo swap, down to the same BSOD errors. Power cycled and wouldn’t boot into windows. It ended up being a conflict with the drivers for my onboard NIC and my PCIe network card. Removing the PCIe card worked like a charm since it didn’t download the drivers for it after the windows install. Great video!
the bottom fan is for RGB only.
Would LOVE to do this for people in my area. Unfortunately I don’t have the stock or sponsoring to replace parts. You really are living the dream Greg!!! Love the content!!!!
My favorite PC guy!
EDIT: Have you gave the edit guy 64 GB ram yet?
:-D
@@GregSalazar You have to double to 128 when you do. Just for show! haha
Thanks for the series, really enjoyable. Not gonna bring anything I learn here to use anytime soon but its really fun to watch :)
I really appreciate it!
nice video budd and i will be 48 years young tomorrow 😊
Happy birthday!
@@GregSalazar thank you budd 😊
You might also try with a SATA drive and with a live CD (Linux for example). Just to know if it has troubles with storage or something else.
The original 5900 CPU overheating would tend to indicate that "upgrading" to an even more power hungry 5950 would maybe not be the best option. For future testing/trouble-shooting purposes, might want to obtain something like a lower-powered Ryzen 5 5500 CPU. As "fixed" as it now is, the system still doesn't make one too confident that the same error isn't going to re-occur soon. Could the liquid CPU cooler be clogged? Maybe.
Thanks for your video! Please keep us updated about the dead CPU and your testing 🤩😎
LETS GOOO noti gang !!
I never would have thought it was the CPU.....i was thinking motherboard but man you always get surprises....
It's good to know i always learn something new with this channel pls, pls keep making these videos I'm always learning something new here....
Interesting video. I had almost the exact thing happen to me once or twice on my new 5800x and I was almost gonna "scream" at you about what I did to fix it. But then you talked about the temps being absurd and was instantly confused. In my case it was somehow my ram and after taking all 4 sticks out and (for some reason) swapping the second and fourth dimms it worked fine. I still had reset windows, but at least it gave me a reason to clear all my games I wasn't playing.
Thanks, Gregg, for this video it shows that you use all available tools to diag.. Ie: knowledge of like cpu temps ,post rountine and such..
I had the exact same issue with my 5900x. Random blue screens of death with different error codes. Was a faulty cpu, warranty replaced and no issues since
Grest video. I had a similar problem couple of weeks ago. I spent 2 days testing everything in my system. It turn up to be a faulty motherboard. Used meanest 86 and I was getting tons of error. Similarly I had a different blue screen every time. Swapped a board and everything is back to normal. Actually system feels faster then before. Sent my board for the RMA.
my 5950x was doing the exact same, for months it would bluescreen randomly when using chrome or gaming for more than 30 minutes and was unable to reinstall windows, swapped it with a brand new 5900 and its been working perfectly since
Thank you for this, Greg!! I have a PC right now that has this issue. I already ordered the CPU replacement, but it's so cool seeing you encountering this same rare issue. Keep up the great work!
This was a great episode in that it clearly shows what can happen if they try to Overclock with no real experience. Not saying this is what he did, but the CPU problem is consistent with over voltage settings usually not always associated with overclockers ;) Usually the whole CPU will get bricked, in this instance it looks like 1 or more cores still worked but were failing at the higher temps and loads all indicators of either lighting strike or bad overclocking. Great episode!!!
I actually was given an old prebuilt gaming PC from my SIL recently that had these exact same symptoms. System posted but then immediately would crash or lock up. Loaded into the bios and it was idling at 70-80 Celsius. Problem was just that the CPU cooler was literally not fully screwed down. A quick removal, new thermal paste and putting it back together fixed the temp problem. The windows install itself was somehow corrupt after that though and still needed a reinstall of the OS.
thank you for this series. with your videos I was able to help a friend get his computer fixed, it was randomly rebooting and a replace of the motherboard fixed his issues.
Love this series. Hope your safe with the current storm in Florida
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Wild guess before watching video.
It's broken ram or broken drive.
Now onward to see if I was right.
Was having the same issues with my build. Worked for a few months, then my r7 5800x just gave me the BSOD and never booted into Windows again. Haven't worked on it after I swapped out the SSD, GPU, RAM and completely disassembled the system, then put it back together to have it BSOD again. I'm definitely going to get a new CPU.
When I was building my current rig, I ran into the drive problem. The bad drive, my intended boot drive, got extremely hot to the touch very quickly, along with the heatsink covering it. I tested it in a different board, same result. In my experience, even a good PCIe 4 drive wouldn't burn up like that, especially not from just trying to boot into Windows. Needless to say, the replacement drive I got actually worked, and didn't exhibit those symptoms.
You are a nice guy, Greg. Although you monetize the videos, you also fix most of the broken PCs and teach those of us watching your videos useful tips. 🙂
Although? It's literally a job. I bet you "monetise" your time, efforts, and skills too? Just like we all do...
So he should work for free? Bruh
I dig this series. Simple and to the point. Keep it up brother.👍
I've seen that fan below the video card before, but usually you'll use a spacer to get it up off the deck and have it reversed so that it helps to direct air into the GPU fans. It's a trick that was semi-popular back in the early days of larger video cards because air flow is terrible in a lot of older cases around the card itself. Over the CPU is typically good, under the GPU typically is a bit of a bad flow area. Even in some modern cases it's often overlooked. So you shove a fan above the basement to help resolve the airflow issue in some cases you'd see noticeable improvement in temps and smoke tests. Dunno, just an idea.
Hello Greg. In this video I noticed that you have already had similar experiences with the 5000. At that time there was no video output and the cpu could not control pci lanes properly either. After you were able to rule out the drive this time, my suspicion immediately fell on the CPU. Maybe you're lucky and it's a case for the RMA. By the way, I've been building my own PCs since 2005 and it's always fun to watch you troubleshooting. Thanks for this format, I enjoy every new episode. Greetings
Greg, i had this exact problem 2 years ago with my MSI 1050 Laptop that i still have to this day. I ended up fixing it by literally reinstalling a brand new version on W10, i lost a lot of college data, but i needed the laptop for a 6th credit summer class.
It was an infinite loop that happened because of the SSD and the bloatware that came with the system brand new when i bought it.
I am surprised it was the cpu though with this one.
These thumbnails keep getting better and better. This one was a great thumbnail
Wow. Interesting video. You did everything I would have thought of except I would have tried different ram before I noticed the temp in BIOS.
Also it would have taken me longer as I sat there drinking coffee going; what the hell? I thought that would work...
I had the exact same issue happen to me in the past. I found that the media creation tool fixed the problem, my guess is that it had to do with how windows was accessing the cpu and when I ran the tool to use a remote repair utility it bypassed the problem.
I have had this issue with MBR vs GPT or AHCI SATA legacy or RAID when installing windows or a backup volume and found clean install from media or re connect of devices one-at-a-time from CPU to RAM in conservative boost can sometimes fix issues.
You mentioned (around 12:00) the pump felt very weak. So you replaced the cooked CPU but put the old cooler with the weak pump back in? Isn't there a big chance the weak pump will fry the 5950X and owner of system would have the same problem back again?
Hope you at least told him it would be wise to replace the AIO within a short period of time?
Weak pump because it was likely calibrated within the BIOS to run at a much lower operating RPM. Modern CPUs won't "fry" themselves. They shut off when they hit t_junciton and can't throttle back any further. This was an older video, so I don't recall the specifics.
Hi Greg.
Ty for theese series... I am learning a lot. I actually have this excact issue with and old CPU
Keep doing what you're doing
Greetings Frem Denmark
First thing I noticed was the AIO Rad is mounted upside-down allowing for air bubbles to get sucked into the block. A bad overclock with incorrect RAM timings can cause issues too.
I had a 5900x do the exact same thing to me on launch day on an AsRock board. However Its been working fine in my Dark Hero board ever since. AsRock board has been running a 5800x3d just fine ever since.
Loved the video!! The smudges on the AIO face plate were driving me insane though 😉
I love these videos, also let me share my really recent story:
I've had my rig since 2014, assembled it myself and it's gone through hell and high water no problem, until a month ago when suddenly one day I had one blue screen, then another, the another, THEN ANOTHER until my OS finally couldn't even open properly (same as here every screen had a different exception), so I took the safe route and let the recovery environment do a fresh W10 install for me, I felt kind of relieved to find out that my only problem was my SSD just dying down since after doing that fresh install it stopped loading some time after the post and the initial system check, so I managed to point out my issue and fixed it quickly, all in all I panicked big time thinking my whole rig was about to go to the grave and my soul came back to me after I made sure everything was working just fine, but now I'm thinking about upgrading because well, it's about time I guess.
Great vid. Gives me ideas for my problems. Been having the same problems before and some times again. My findings were the RAM sticks, weirdly enough, and it's those Corsair Vengeance RAM sticks too.
I've recently had a similar experience where my 5800x started to die on me. I was getting CPU related blue screens as well as random shutdowns/restarts. After testing different ram sticks, motherboards, and PSUs, I was able to narrow it down to the CPU when the blue screens and restarts stopped when I swapped to a 3700x. According to OCCT stress testing it was a bad core that was causing the constant errors.
Any time you have consistent OS corruption like that and Bsods, I would recommend running memtest. Usually a sign of bad ram, or failing memory controller in the CPU.
Had the same problem with 5600x in a buid I just made. Constant reboots and and only had problems when booting into windows bios was fine. Has had return chip and get new one.
This is great content yet again!
i never knew a higher CPU package temp (in BIOS) could actually restrict an entire system to post or go past recovery.
then again it does make total sense if the CPU needs to load files and programs, it gets even hotter to a critical point and locks it up due to safety features.
im sure 99% of us blamed the drive (being corrupt), i know i did lol.
Might be worth delidding. But I suspect a dead core (you can turn that off in the BIOS) - possibly due to too much heat since it didn't contact the IHS correctly.
Same happened to me a couple months ago with my 5900X. I played with PBO and LLC3 and after a year it was doing what yours did, if I pumped 0.08v more vcore it worked again (although I bought a replacement). (You could try that)
I noticed a lot of people talking about how the h510 case is bad and it's a hot box. If you really like the look though (like me) and don't want another case you can easily find acrylic panels with custom laser cut ventilation holes for the h510 and elite to fix that problem. I got some for my h510 elite case and she looks and runs like a dream.
Had this same issue after a Bios update and redone the Bios Update and it fixed the Temps. Don't know why but it was throwing alot of voltage at my R9 3900x.
I also had a 5950X that started dying on me. It ran perfectly fine for two years but one day, it just started causing the system to crash and randomly restart. I was getting the same "Page Fault in Nonpaged Area" and WHEA errors as well. Good thing it was still under warranty. I filed an RMA and got a replacement from AMD. No more random crashes or restarts.
I would delid the cpu. maybe it had a bad soldering job under the ihs which would cause over heating even with a good cooler
Don't usually watch fix or flop videos, but the thumbnail was just completely unhinged. You got me
Years back, I had this same issue on a four core AMD processor which constantly gave a blue screen with different reasons listed every time it crashed. It turned out that one of the four cores was actually bad. When I disabled the core in Windows 7 startup using msconfig, it worked just fine, but only as a two core. The way the core was positioned on the CPU, I was forced to turn off one of the good cores with the bad one so it effectively became a "duel core" processor. I still use that system to play the original Skyrim and a few older games every now and then, with an HD 7750 GPU. It works pretty well! 👍👍
Hi Greg, I also have a 5900X and the temps on this thing are weirdly almost always high. In the desktop I idle at around 47°… When gaming I never go above 75°. I’ve tried everything, changed cooler, reapplied thermal paste etc and after some research the chip just runs very hot regardless of cooling. Fantastic CPU otherwise!
As long as your temps aren’t rising slowly while the system is idle then your fine honestly. 47c idle is a bit on the hotter side of idle temps but perfectly acceptable especially as you did say it doesn’t go past 75c (tjmax of your cpu is 90c) while gaming so in most cases the idle temp doesn’t matter too much.
If i was you i wouldn’t worry about it and keep gaming! But If you still looking at maybe trying to lower your cpu temps;
-Check your ambient room temp and see if you can cool it if its on the hotter side.
-In the bios if you are comfortable you could try and undervolt your cpu by setting voltages yourself but like i said only do this if you are comfortable and make sure to check guides and acceptable voltage ranges for your cpu since you could fry the system SO BE VERY CAREFUL!
-Set a more aggressively fan curve within the bios or MSI afterburner more noise tho, up to you.
-If using a Aio have the fans as intake which will cool the cpu slightly better however, GPU in return will run a bit hotter nothing to crazy if your gpu is already fine. Generally this doesn’t matter too much as long as theres airflow but it is an option.
@@ranjnijan3446 Thank you for all of the points! I might try flipping the AIO to intake as it's currently set to exhaust at the top of my case. I replaced the included NZXT fans with the Lian Li AL-120's that I got instead. I have 3 set to intake and 3 (on the AIO) for exhaust. The temps are fine and stay stable when idle/not gaming. As soon as I go into a game, they slowly ramp up to around 70 and then go up or down a few degrees. I've not had any blue screens or issues, so I'll leave it for now and try some of your suggestions if I have issues. Thanks!
I love how you keep showing everything
hi
I ran into something similar when I cloned my dads hard drive to a new SSD. I formatted the old hard drive and hooked it back up and everything went to crap. Two copies of UEFI boot stuff nuked it. I had to utilize diskpart to clean the hard drive and rebuild the UEFI boot stuff from a recovery command prompt. Although I don't remember if the BSODs were random - they were definitely alternating between them and repair.
This is peak thumbnail, like it just doesn't get any better than this
I had a *very* similar situation moving from a 3400G to a 5600X (brand new) on an Asrock Phantom Gaming X570 Wi-Fi ax motherboard…and it was the BIOS. Windows kept freezing at the same point, but entering BIOS worked fine. Resetting CMOS? Nothing. Last ditch before nuking the OS decided to update the BIOS from USB (previous BIOS was compatible with 5600x, I checked). Haven’t had an issue since! Booted immediately.
Wish you would have checked BIOS version too. CPU might have been ok. Did user recently change CPU? Maybe it needed a microcode update.
Glad the 5*50x worked and the user got an upgrade. Also glad you’re going to check the old CPU! I suspect it’s fine and just needed a different BIOS.😊
I was thinking it might have been a bad RAM module with the varied BSOD messages and the inability to load anything. Well done.
I have faced kinda the same issue too! I was able to boot into windows but booting up sometimes will show up random bsod or hang in the welcome screen or either black screen after the mobo logo+windows loading circle screen, but powering on and off several times solves it tho.
Dang Greg! A few months ago I also ran into this problem while working on a friend's pc that I built for him. He had a 5600g in it and it had the exact same problems. Everything worked great until it was time to load into windows. Turned out that the CPU had died and I had to RMA it. It was the first time that I had run into a problem of a CPU dieing while being kept in a good environment. My best guess is that there is some hardware degradation happening when the motherboard pushes a little too much voltage either in the Vcore or VSoc. I was watching a buildzoid video not that long ago and he was talking about after some CPU's go bad he has to push excessive VSoc voltage to even get the machine to function.
Had exactly this issue on my i7 7700k years ago. Warranty swapped everything but the CPU and still had the issue, cpu was out of warranty and didn't have the money to replace it. Went a few years without pc and ended up going to ryzen when I had the money to buy components again. i7 still sits in the brand new mobo in the loft.
I'm not surprised Greg, I had a Ryzen 7 5800X which had a similar problem, whenever I opened a browser it would crash, whenever I opened a game, it would close aftwra second, no BSODs or error messages, I discovered my CPU was faulty, the only way I could run it was by locking the clock at 4.6 Ghz on the bios, and still I'd have some eventual BSODs, I decided to sell it (the person was told about the issue previously) and got myself an i7 11700KF.
Great show Greg, I really enjoy fix or flop. Watched it from S01 to the latest. From my experience in PC's some of the old hardware specially the mobo can get fixed by spraying fast drying contact cleaner. Usually it fixes ram slots, pcie slots or some random problem (booting issues, on/ off issues). I dont know if spraying contact cleaner can harm the hardware or not. I magically bring a dead GPU by disassemby it and spray it, just lucky i guess 😂
What's ur thougt about that? I only used it on old hardware specially if those things are dirty and its only office PC's
Keep up the good work man 🙏
This channel just helped me get through blue screen hell, narrowed it down to one bad DIMM
I had this SAME issue months ago with my x570 Dark Hero and 5900x build. I replaced everything trying to figure out what it could be. Ended up being the CPU just like this one. I was shouting, "it's the CPU!" the entire video, which I assume was very helpful to you.
I've had a similar issue with my PC a while ago when I was running my 2TB HDD as a boot drive and all the file jazz. Had to put the drive in another PC as an "extra memory" and get every piece of important information. Reinstalled the windows, then a short time later upgraded to NVMe and set everything up and it's going strong, the HDD that I was using is still in good use.
But I'm glad that I did not have the issue that Greg had to deal with with this PC, which would be really frustrating...
i had the exact same problem! ik had a ryzen 5 3600 that kept overheating no matter what cooler i put on it(even just in windows it was at about 75-80 degrees). I had the cpu about 1 and a half year before it started doing this. As a last resort i got a new cpu put my cooler on it and everything worked fine!
WoW yeah at first i thought it was the ssd drive as well ... but yeah the temps were hi good catch there Greg but as it did post i dident think it was the cpu but a good win Greg ... thumbs up
i'm personally glad it wasn't the drive going bad. i use that exact same model in my system
More more more! So interesting and fun series! Anyways looking for more
Thanks Greg for sharing!
*always
The thumbnail for this video alone deserves a thumbs up.
Bullseye repair job Greg, did you happen to notice the idle temp with the working CPU or can you tell me what it should be aprox., if not it's all good. Thanks for the adventure!
I know I'm a little late to comment on this video, but I had a similar issue with my PC several months back where it kept throwing random blue screens just like this, but mine were occurring after boot. Some of these blue screens like the nonpaged area one were the same that I was getting, along with a few others including system syntax error. Ultimately it ended up being a bad ram stick that was causing all of the issues. I changed it out with another of the exact same type that was bought at the same time and everything worked perfectly from then on. It was literally just one of the sticks went bad.
I am happy that the drive is okay because I have the exact same gigabyte aorus 1tb ssd