look at the bend in the pcb, that thing has ripped solder away from the chip. and when the pcb is bent, there's no way to fix it. never let your GPU's sag folks.
My guess would be some bad memory or a core that needs to be re-balled. I don't know what he charges, but you could send it to northwestrepair and he can figure out pretty quick which it is. There are some Hynix modules that don't take much heat to go south.
I think he charges at most 200 bucks, unless he has to order parts. My 3060ti has hynix memory chips, so I undervolted my card -900mv and underclocked the memory -100mhz. It's running a lot cooler and runs great! I know it will fail eventually though, just will last a bit longer
@@TheBlueBunnyKen did not expect to see a reference to northwestrepair here, but I sent a 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra to him I believe 2 months ago, and he got it fixed quickly! He said it was a blown resistor I just paid $100 + shipping to him + shipping back to me
About tham 3060TI. There's a huge quantity of them, with a VERY early production Hynex ram memory chips. The ram chips fail,so you need to consider replacing them, for Samsung ones. It was a very knowledgeable Russian speaking hardware repair blogger,VicOn/Off,who discovered this.
@@DuneRunnerEnterprises I am considering sending it to northwestrepair once it fails, I don't have the experience with gpu repair. He doesn't replace memory chips unless they failing. I am also considering just letting my card die eventually to upgrade to a gpu with more vram since games now a days require more than 8gb of vram. They require 12gb of vram minimum now a days
His reaction at the end about being grateful for a working gpu! Very nice seems like another great dude. Imo most gamers and pc nerds are awesome people lol 😂🤝💪
@@ShionneChan are there still real driver issues? I know less popular DX9 games are always going to be hit or miss, but I figured aside from that things should be good now.
Greg, northwestrepair would be a great recommendation for the 3080 repair as well. That guy is the only tech on RUclips that I watch who goes step by step fixing gpu's. Fascinating stuff! Thanks for the video!
I have learned how to build, diagnose, fix and customize my PCs all thanks to Jay and of course Greg. Not only that, but my family now comes to me for PC related issues instead paying Geek Squad who sometimes just makes the problem worse. i say that to say thank you Greg. keep it up!
@@hugomatos1999Why so negative? There are plenty people who dont mind a tech support. Just make sure to balance it out, ask some help back with other stuff.
Geek Squad is pretty useless when it comes to fixing something. For example, I did a factory reset on a laptop of my moms, the problem persisted. They charged my mother $75 to Factory reset her laptop and told her it was fixed. Spoiler alert it is not. The mother board and other components are not meshing properly, and the bios is locked.
yeah, it's ALWAYS better to learn how to do things yourself, fixing your car, small home repairs, making food etc the quality of parts and service of everything is decreasing, everyone will need to become independent
I have the tools! and the replacement chips for memory. I'd love a chance to repair this card as I've been doing repairs like this for a few years now. Let me know man. Great video once again
I definitely would love an update on that 3080 Greg. I love watching board repairs. I wish I had the skill and equipment. I watch Northridge fix and Chris Fix Germany a lot.
@@mikeycracksonBesides samsung chips the others are pushed too hard with overclocks/temps, which leads to them failing or needing to be reballed/reflowed
@@TheBlueBunnyKen as far I'm aware it has nothing to do with overclocking, it's more to do with the fact that these cards were shipping out of of the factory with memory hitting 100c constantly.
@@jordanlazarus7345 Sadly, yeah. GDDR6X runs super hot in general and Nvidia even allows it to run up to 110ºC -- that's with stock/out of the box boost.
@@TheBlueBunnyKen I'm a massive fan of undervolting the core on my cards but it sucks that there isn't such an easy solution for memory that doesn't sacrifice performance
Pro tip: I will always send these types of video card problems back to the manufacturer for RMA. Most companies are great even if out of warranty they will often repair either free or for a small fee and/or replace the card at a pro rated price. MSI, Asus and Gigabyte have helped greatly in the past in this way. EVGA is top notch and most often just replaced the card out right probably then repairing the old card or recycling it. Most of the time it costs shipping plus a small fee but with these higher end cards the fee out weighs by a ton replacing it with a new one. Always reach out you'll often be suprised by what they can do for you, especially with a card that is only 1 generation old, they often have many pcb's still laying around to swap out. Great video!
Electronics degrade over time and sometimes need more power to function correctly at default speed. A free option is to lower the core/memery clock by 10% with software and see if it helps, then fine tune. Sometimes the default volt becomes too low for the default speeds. I recommend lowering the speed over upping the voltage. Could help the card survive a while longer. Better to lose a few percent performance if it means you can continue using the card.
I really enjoy these videos Greg. I HATE that you were having to constantly “explain” yourself for fear of nasty comments. I wish people would just sit back, enjoy the video, and debate on the possibilities for the failure. You’ve taught me more than almost anyone on RUclips with this series and I really hope it continues.
DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) can sometimes help in similar situations, although probably wouldn't have helped in this particular case of apparent hardware failure. You may want to consider creating a portable "Windows to Go" bootable external SSD, which would bypass the user's own installed software environment. Rufus includes the option to create "Windows to Go".
Let's see more of Nate!!! Great video, I always thought gas station cards, were a sure thing. Maybe, I'll try WalMart's parking lot, when looking for parts.
Seems like a memory error, running a memory test could point to which memory chip has an issue. Could be as simple as swapping a chip. Check out Northwest repair, I love that guy. Would be an awesome collab!
8:40...Having experienced a very similar issue with a successfully RMA's 2080ti, I really had a feeling that was gonna happen!!! Even when installed in the bottom slot, the card was receiving more than adequate airflow with an active cooler of that size. There may not be a whole lot of clearance but case's main chamber still has ventilation beneath for air to be drawn upwards by the heatsinks fans. Artefacts and corruption of that magnitude can often be the consequence of severely defective VRAM or a broken Pixel pipeline. The problem can remain hidden for several hours of routine operation and stress testing but then instantly exhibit itself when any application data is allocated to the faulty component. It's a combination of luck and the extent of the defect that delays this from happening....but once it does, the symptoms are obvious and will persist until the damaged hardware is no longer being utilised. Another thoroughly entertaining and informative video with a signature happy ending!
Artifacting is not an issue for Greg to fix. That is an issue for northwestrepair. That's usually bad vram memory chips that needs to be replaced. Sometimes the memory chips just need to be reballed, or reball the GPU core itself
You can look up for Northridge fix, they do this kind of repair and may be able to diagnose and fix this . and as i wrote you just mentioned it so i guess you already know what to do then lol my guess is the card suffocated a bit and vram may have had some temp issues and i noticed the card sagged a lot so pcb may have warped a bit so a reball and anti-sag bracket may fix this problem. having a good look with a thermal cam may help point the exact cause of those issues with this gpu.
Yeeeeah, NF is an no go with BGA, but northwest on the other hand is the guy to go to And yup, sag is most likely the culprit. I've faced similar issue before. Anti-sag bracket or any support is starting to be a requirement for those heavy coolers. Even a cheap $5 screw thingy support from aliexpress will do wonders to alleviate the sag (bought one, works great)
It could be a poor re-paste, can't tell if you did take it apart. My 2080 Ti had a poor re-paste done (from myself, did not spread all the way), and the card did function perfectly fine for nearly a year, then suddenly started having symptoms just like you've mentioned in the video. Try checking the hotspot temperature if you can. It shouldn't have too large of a delta.
Did you use GPU-Z or something else to check the VRAM temps? GR6x runs stupid Hot and the Ventus version was supposedly not great with VRAM temps. Sometimes replacing the pads with higher quality pads might help. The Gas station guy might have mined ETH with it and fried some of the VRAM dies. it prob has a bad GD6x die or, like you said, it needs to be reballed. I'd probably send it to Northridge Fix or Northwestrepair.
Try an RMA with MSI. I had a GTX 970 that was DOA from eBay and they replaced it as it was still in warranty. I even broke the warranty sticker to re-paste the GPU and they replaced it. As long as there is no physical damage it's worth a shot.
Looks like a memory issue. Northwestrepair is one of my favourite guys on youtube that repairs cards and does a great job at it too. Thats where I learend that's likely a memory issue. Your guess that placing it in the lowest spot restricted airflow and one or more memory chips which are usually only passively cooled got fried or unsoldered is probably correct.
Visual artifacts like that seem more like faulty memory to me, and I'm willing to bet that this card was mined on HARD in its previous life. Greg might be able to eke a bit more life out of it by underclocking the GPU core and memory.
I'd say both scenario's could be very likely as I did see a fair amount of card sag on the MSI card which likely to cause cracked balls on both the GPU and the VRAM so could need a reflow there. Intensive mining could also cause this as well. Far as getting it repaired maybe reach out to northwest repair as he specializes in graphics card repair
Most miners keep their cards at stable voltage, stable temp, stable load. Could be not so bad, sometimes I load 5 games a day on my 3080. Not sure what would be worse after 2 years.
I do wondern what NorthridgeFix or similar would change to inspect snd fix that card. Is it worth the costs of repair and shipping compared to another GSGC? 😉
Great video Greg and Nate! Please do a Collab with Northwest Repair he is super chill and is amazing at fixing GPUs! Also please have Nate back for more videos! He is awesome and seems a really nice guy 👍
IMO the problem with the 3080 is the sag, this days the coolers are just too heavy and start to bend the PCB and then you start having this kind of issues, you are probably correct assuming that the problem is with the GPU die contact, probably needs to be reballed, the 3070 will have the same problem in a year or 2 if you don't install a GPU support bracket, I noticed the same problem with my 3070 and 6800xt sagging so got a bracket, my next case is going to be the Thermaltake CTE 750 so that will solve this problem. Love Alex from Northridge but don't think he will be willing to reball the GPU die for a reasonable price, I would send it to "northwestrepair" also has a youtube channel and is a wizard with GPUs + very reasonable prices.
I had an issue like this, turns out it was the dram. Apperently the 2 sets of identical corsair vengence, when put together, caused very similar issues. Your videos helped me to be able to diagnose and fix they pc.
Artifacting is usually caused by memory issues on the card. If ram isn't working correctly or isn't seated correctly the system will show weird symptoms or not post at all
@@TheBlueBunnyKen idk, the minute I removed one of the sets of dram the issue resolved itself. The minute I put both in together it came right back. I thought it was the card at first as well but when I tested the card in my brother's computer it worked perfectly. It was some weird issue with compatability, idk computers are weird at times.
Did I hear correctly you saying he got the card around 1 year ago? If that was the case, I don't see buying the card at a fuel station being the issue. I'm currently running an RTX3070 I bought second hand from fb market place. There's nothing wrong with buying second hand to save some $$ and it works. The thing to take away from this, is to see the part working ok first. Another great video Greg. Your bro-inlaw seems like a great guy.
Love your videos, very informative. As far as I'm concerned you're probably too generous with replacement cards. Great work, looking forward to the next video.
Looks like there was moisture around the VRAM chips on that 3080 (at 9:38), maybe that could be part of the reason why? You should let it dry out for a while
I had an MSI Ventus 3080 (i think it was my first 3080) and it gave me nothing but problems. No matter how many times I tried DDU, it was consistently unstable, countless crashes to desktop, just a nightmare of a card. Was so glad to get rid of it.
MSI Ventus on 3080 or higher cards are pretty bad. On lower end cards it should be fine. If you're gonna go with MSI, I'd recommend their gaming x/trio or Suprim cards, their Ventus is just bad.
I have seen a very similar issue from a Bad power Supply as well, minus the Artifacts. If you have these symptoms without Artifacts it can be the PSU. It might turn on fine but as soon as it gets stressed it lacks enough power to keep the Computer running & will Blue Screen Crash or Reset.
Biggest problem with him though, is a lot of his solder repair wouldn't even pass class 1 or 2 IPC standards so it'd likely just fail again in the near future. Northwest Repair would be a lot safer bet when it comes to reliability.
Agree, but for sure i would do a quick tear down repaste, i have fixes lots of artifacting cards with this quick fix, if not it a rather complicated Memory pad, which for me is one Echalon above what i feel comfortable with, i am with you on the soldering, when i was a young 17 yo Marine i got NASA certication for Soldering which i used at General Dymaics in the 1980s with build stuff F-16 and Phalax Computerized Gatling guns they used on Ships. But i sure couldnt see what could back 45 years ago.. Cheers Greg
Mr Greg, excellent work. May I request a video from optimal --> high-end performance for Starfield. PC specs, graphics cards, ram etc, 1080p, 1440p, 4k. Would be very interested in your takes.
that is an incredible outro from a beginner! even for someone fairly experienced I'd say. He really is a natural... but not at making good judgement calls :)
At what temperature does the solder start to flow again? Would it be possible to hit the PCB with a temperature-controlled heat gun without damaging the other components?
Had a similar issue back in the day, bought a second hand evga 970 and it lasted for like half a year then it would randomly start loosing signal to the monitor even while just browsing the web
that ventus model is the problematic one with breaking backplates and overheating memory temps due to wrongly designed thermal tape thickness (during the early months from the release of 3080s if I remember correct). That card could be one of the early release versions
its a designflaw from the msi 3080 mine did the same somehow this is not under waranty. had to go back to my good old gtx970 which is holding up strong till this day!
Had glitching like that on a rx580 that I had set up on a mining bios... in windows would glitch but in mining software would be fine. maybe its not on original vbios?
It would also appear that his Corsair memory has an issue with the lighting on one of the memory sticks, some of the RGB led's on the far right stick is showing the wrong color (even before Windows starts).
Folks, this is a prime example of what I've been trying to get across; DON'T buy used graphics cards (from gas stations OR ebay). You don't know what you're getting, you have no idea how long it will last, and you don't get a warranty. I know someone in the comments will say "I bought mine used and I've had it for 5 years with no problems"----yep, and there's other people who bought used and only had it last for a couple of weeks---sold as-is, no warranty
Oh no i was hoping it was not the classical hosing down at the gas station... lol, guess he had to learn the hard way. Though try that new vbios flasher. Might save him.
I have the same motherboard the chip set fan started making the grinding sound about a year ago just sent them an email and they sent a couple replacements
I have the same CPU cooler it does the same noise it goes away when I either lay down the pc or lower the fan rpm with fan controller till it goes away then I just bump up the intake fan
Artifacting🚫 Digital Camo✅
I mean he’s not wrong 😂
Shout-out to digital camo :-D
Congrats on the Sainz pole though
I don't know why you're so judgemental? Reasonable people buy gpu and drugs at gas stations. I do it all the time.
look at the bend in the pcb, that thing has ripped solder away from the chip. and when the pcb is bent, there's no way to fix it. never let your GPU's sag folks.
Thumbs up from Solid Snake!
Send this card to northwest repair! He's great at repairing cards
Nate seems like a cool guy. Greggy such an awesome bro in law.
My guess would be some bad memory or a core that needs to be re-balled. I don't know what he charges, but you could send it to northwestrepair and he can figure out pretty quick which it is. There are some Hynix modules that don't take much heat to go south.
I think he charges at most 200 bucks, unless he has to order parts. My 3060ti has hynix memory chips, so I undervolted my card -900mv and underclocked the memory -100mhz. It's running a lot cooler and runs great! I know it will fail eventually though, just will last a bit longer
@@TheBlueBunnyKen did not expect to see a reference to northwestrepair here, but I sent a 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra to him I believe 2 months ago, and he got it fixed quickly!
He said it was a blown resistor
I just paid $100 + shipping to him + shipping back to me
@@seeking.eternity haha I think I watched that video, got the same card too, 1 of the best 2080ti
About tham 3060TI.
There's a huge quantity of them, with a VERY early production Hynex ram memory chips.
The ram chips fail,so you need to consider replacing them, for Samsung ones.
It was a very knowledgeable Russian speaking hardware repair blogger,VicOn/Off,who discovered this.
@@DuneRunnerEnterprises I am considering sending it to northwestrepair once it fails, I don't have the experience with gpu repair. He doesn't replace memory chips unless they failing. I am also considering just letting my card die eventually to upgrade to a gpu with more vram since games now a days require more than 8gb of vram. They require 12gb of vram minimum now a days
His reaction at the end about being grateful for a working gpu! Very nice seems like another great dude. Imo most gamers and pc nerds are awesome people lol 😂🤝💪
@@ShionneChan are there still real driver issues? I know less popular DX9 games are always going to be hit or miss, but I figured aside from that things should be good now.
Hey dude, thanks for downgrading me! 😂 All joking aside I’d be just as grateful!
Greg, northwestrepair would be a great recommendation for the 3080 repair as well. That guy is the only tech on RUclips that I watch who goes step by step fixing gpu's. Fascinating stuff! Thanks for the video!
I recently found that channel. I'm not sure where he is up here (Portland/Seattle) but that's a bit of a ship from Florida.
I was about to say
Said the exact same thing, he can get this fixed as long as the core isn't dead.
Would be good to see northwestrepair repair this card
northwestrepair is my recomendation Northridgefix is just a mosfet replacer other than that the gpu is a no fix...
I have learned how to build, diagnose, fix and customize my PCs all thanks to Jay and of course Greg. Not only that, but my family now comes to me for PC related issues instead paying Geek Squad who sometimes just makes the problem worse. i say that to say thank you Greg. keep it up!
Now instead of paying geek squad, they can pay you lol. Nice job
@@Bill30006"If you're good at something, never do it for free." Joker
@@hugomatos1999Why so negative? There are plenty people who dont mind a tech support. Just make sure to balance it out, ask some help back with other stuff.
Geek Squad is pretty useless when it comes to fixing something. For example, I did a factory reset on a laptop of my moms, the problem persisted. They charged my mother $75 to Factory reset her laptop and told her it was fixed. Spoiler alert it is not. The mother board and other components are not meshing properly, and the bios is locked.
yeah, it's ALWAYS better to learn how to do things yourself, fixing your car, small home repairs, making food etc
the quality of parts and service of everything is decreasing, everyone will need to become independent
Buying GPUs at a gas station: ❌
Buying GPUs at convenience stores: ✅
I have the tools! and the replacement chips for memory. I'd love a chance to repair this card as I've been doing repairs like this for a few years now. Let me know man. Great video once again
Gonna comment on your comment just to bring it up haha
@@abrararifify didn't help, it's 15th comment for me
You should check to see if it was mined on. If there is a custom BIOS on the card, that could be a contributing factor.
I definitely would love an update on that 3080 Greg. I love watching board repairs. I wish I had the skill and equipment. I watch Northridge fix and Chris Fix Germany a lot.
Super positive and nice guy, your brother in law , always with a smile on his face!
Nice video , once again ^_^
That's vram issue for sure...did you notice the mem temperatures while benching? Is a common issue with a lot of 3080s
@@mikeycracksonBesides samsung chips the others are pushed too hard with overclocks/temps, which leads to them failing or needing to be reballed/reflowed
@@TheBlueBunnyKen as far I'm aware it has nothing to do with overclocking, it's more to do with the fact that these cards were shipping out of of the factory with memory hitting 100c constantly.
@@jordanlazarus7345 Sadly, yeah. GDDR6X runs super hot in general and Nvidia even allows it to run up to 110ºC -- that's with stock/out of the box boost.
@@jordanlazarus7345 crappy design regarding cooling, undervolting the card and underclocking the memory could probably give better temps
@@TheBlueBunnyKen I'm a massive fan of undervolting the core on my cards but it sucks that there isn't such an easy solution for memory that doesn't sacrifice performance
Pro tip: I will always send these types of video card problems back to the manufacturer for RMA. Most companies are great even if out of warranty they will often repair either free or for a small fee and/or replace the card at a pro rated price. MSI, Asus and Gigabyte have helped greatly in the past in this way. EVGA is top notch and most often just replaced the card out right probably then repairing the old card or recycling it. Most of the time it costs shipping plus a small fee but with these higher end cards the fee out weighs by a ton replacing it with a new one. Always reach out you'll often be suprised by what they can do for you, especially with a card that is only 1 generation old, they often have many pcb's still laying around to swap out. Great video!
Nate is just happy to be there lol what nice dude, loved this episode quite refreshing too
Electronics degrade over time and sometimes need more power to function correctly at default speed. A free option is to lower the core/memery clock by 10% with software and see if it helps, then fine tune. Sometimes the default volt becomes too low for the default speeds. I recommend lowering the speed over upping the voltage. Could help the card survive a while longer. Better to lose a few percent performance if it means you can continue using the card.
I really enjoy these videos Greg.
I HATE that you were having to constantly “explain” yourself for fear of nasty comments. I wish people would just sit back, enjoy the video, and debate on the possibilities for the failure.
You’ve taught me more than almost anyone on RUclips with this series and I really hope it continues.
If it's out of warranty send it to Northwest repair. He specializes in gpu repair and can reball the memory chips/core if needed.
I'm not sure that dudes you meet in a gas station parking lot offer warranties.
DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) can sometimes help in similar situations, although probably wouldn't have helped in this particular case of apparent hardware failure. You may want to consider creating a portable "Windows to Go" bootable external SSD, which would bypass the user's own installed software environment. Rufus includes the option to create "Windows to Go".
If you look at the original time you plugged it in, you can already see some artifacting and spotting. Great job as usual
Yeah the Windows login screen had those weird squares
Let's see more of Nate!!! Great video, I always thought gas station cards, were a sure thing. Maybe, I'll try WalMart's parking lot, when looking for parts.
Awesome video Greg! Keep us posted if that 3080 gets fixed!
Nate just complicated things with that amazing ending.
Seems like a memory error, running a memory test could point to which memory chip has an issue. Could be as simple as swapping a chip. Check out Northwest repair, I love that guy. Would be an awesome collab!
8:40...Having experienced a very similar issue with a successfully RMA's 2080ti, I really had a feeling that was gonna happen!!! Even when installed in the bottom slot, the card was receiving more than adequate airflow with an active cooler of that size. There may not be a whole lot of clearance but case's main chamber still has ventilation beneath for air to be drawn upwards by the heatsinks fans.
Artefacts and corruption of that magnitude can often be the consequence of severely defective VRAM or a broken Pixel pipeline. The problem can remain hidden for several hours of routine operation and stress testing but then instantly exhibit itself when any application data is allocated to the faulty component. It's a combination of luck and the extent of the defect that delays this from happening....but once it does, the symptoms are obvious and will persist until the damaged hardware is no longer being utilised. Another thoroughly entertaining and informative video with a signature happy ending!
Might be worth trying the oven method on that card. Little bit of heat could help resolder any potential pins that could have been damaged
I was just going to suggest that. Nothing to lose now, bake it in the oven and see if that fixes the issue.
Artifacting is not an issue for Greg to fix. That is an issue for northwestrepair. That's usually bad vram memory chips that needs to be replaced. Sometimes the memory chips just need to be reballed, or reball the GPU core itself
Forgot to turn on the power strip again! Do they even draw power while on with nothing plugged in? 2:37
Yes
Hi Greg 😎 this screams so loud for a collaboration with northwestrepair 😉👍🏻 I'm 100% sure he'll get the card back 🙂 so that it works perfectly
Definitely! N-WR is the GOAT.
YES, northwestrepair is the guy to go to!
Yes for sure
Would love to see a follow up to see if that card was repairable.
You can look up for Northridge fix, they do this kind of repair and may be able to diagnose and fix this . and as i wrote you just mentioned it so i guess you already know what to do then lol
my guess is the card suffocated a bit and vram may have had some temp issues and i noticed the card sagged a lot so pcb may have warped a bit so a reball and anti-sag bracket may fix this problem. having a good look with a thermal cam may help point the exact cause of those issues with this gpu.
Yeeeeah, NF is an no go with BGA, but northwest on the other hand is the guy to go to
And yup, sag is most likely the culprit. I've faced similar issue before. Anti-sag bracket or any support is starting to be a requirement for those heavy coolers. Even a cheap $5 screw thingy support from aliexpress will do wonders to alleviate the sag (bought one, works great)
Sounds like something @northwestrepair can fix. @GregSalazar consider sending the 3080 to him and give us a post-fix update?
I really wish this collab would take flight, it sounds like an interesting story to follow
It could be a poor re-paste, can't tell if you did take it apart.
My 2080 Ti had a poor re-paste done (from myself, did not spread all the way), and the card did function perfectly fine for nearly a year, then suddenly started having symptoms just like you've mentioned in the video.
Try checking the hotspot temperature if you can. It shouldn't have too large of a delta.
Did you use GPU-Z or something else to check the VRAM temps? GR6x runs stupid Hot and the Ventus version was supposedly not great with VRAM temps. Sometimes replacing the pads with higher quality pads might help.
The Gas station guy might have mined ETH with it and fried some of the VRAM dies. it prob has a bad GD6x die or, like you said, it needs to be reballed. I'd probably send it to Northridge Fix or Northwestrepair.
Try an RMA with MSI. I had a GTX 970 that was DOA from eBay and they replaced it as it was still in warranty. I even broke the warranty sticker to re-paste the GPU and they replaced it. As long as there is no physical damage it's worth a shot.
Absolutely love this series from you Greg, have done ever since it's inception. Keep up the awesome work! :)
Looks like a memory issue.
Northwestrepair is one of my favourite guys on youtube that repairs cards and does a great job at it too.
Thats where I learend that's likely a memory issue. Your guess that placing it in the lowest spot restricted airflow and one or more memory chips which are usually only passively cooled got fried or unsoldered is probably correct.
His 3080 is totally repairable, maybe ask NorthWest Repair? He's really good.
Look at the brother in law smiling, he knew from jump he was going to a card on loan or given.
The 3080 was sagging pretty bad. I'd lean towards the core being the issue. Reball/reflow and a sag bracket might fix it.
Visual artifacts like that seem more like faulty memory to me, and I'm willing to bet that this card was mined on HARD in its previous life.
Greg might be able to eke a bit more life out of it by underclocking the GPU core and memory.
I'd say both scenario's could be very likely as I did see a fair amount of card sag on the MSI card which likely to cause cracked balls on both the GPU and the VRAM so could need a reflow there. Intensive mining could also cause this as well. Far as getting it repaired maybe reach out to northwest repair as he specializes in graphics card repair
@@steph_on_yt I agree about probably mined with especially with the evidence of the card being dismantled previously.
@@steph_on_yt Agreed. This is a very common issue with the memory chips dying.
Most miners keep their cards at stable voltage, stable temp, stable load. Could be not so bad, sometimes I load 5 games a day on my 3080. Not sure what would be worse after 2 years.
Would love to see a follow up on the card for sure!
I do wondern what NorthridgeFix or similar would change to inspect snd fix that card. Is it worth the costs of repair and shipping compared to another GSGC? 😉
From now on I will forever refer to a GPU artifacting as “digital camo”
"The gas station effect" XD
I miss this series, finally ❤❤❤❤
Time to reball that card! I tried it with a card that had the same kind of artifacting and it still works to this day.
What is reballing???
@@amirafshar2580 basically replacing what welds it to the pcb
This is one of the best looking, broken, PC's I've seen you work on.
Nate should do all of your video extros.
He's a natural - the camera loves him!
Great video Greg and Nate! Please do a Collab with Northwest Repair he is super chill and is amazing at fixing GPUs! Also please have Nate back for more videos! He is awesome and seems a really nice guy 👍
IMO the problem with the 3080 is the sag, this days the coolers are just too heavy and start to bend the PCB and then you start having this kind of issues, you are probably correct assuming that the problem is with the GPU die contact, probably needs to be reballed, the 3070 will have the same problem in a year or 2 if you don't install a GPU support bracket, I noticed the same problem with my 3070 and 6800xt sagging so got a bracket, my next case is going to be the Thermaltake CTE 750 so that will solve this problem.
Love Alex from Northridge but don't think he will be willing to reball the GPU die for a reasonable price, I would send it to "northwestrepair" also has a youtube channel and is a wizard with GPUs + very reasonable prices.
Yeah my 3070 started to sag a lot just after a year, got it supported with black lego blocks now 😅
Greg: Don't use a daisy chained cable
Also greg: Uses a daisy chained 6+8pin cable
He specifically said for the 3080. The 3070 isn't quite as power hungry
I had an issue like this, turns out it was the dram. Apperently the 2 sets of identical corsair vengence, when put together, caused very similar issues. Your videos helped me to be able to diagnose and fix they pc.
Artifacting is usually caused by memory issues on the card. If ram isn't working correctly or isn't seated correctly the system will show weird symptoms or not post at all
@@TheBlueBunnyKen idk, the minute I removed one of the sets of dram the issue resolved itself. The minute I put both in together it came right back. I thought it was the card at first as well but when I tested the card in my brother's computer it worked perfectly. It was some weird issue with compatability, idk computers are weird at times.
@@activeentropy indeed, sometimes computers can be very hard to troubleshoot
Great video as always Greg
Did I hear correctly you saying he got the card around 1 year ago? If that was the case, I don't see buying the card at a fuel station being the issue. I'm currently running an RTX3070 I bought second hand from fb market place. There's nothing wrong with buying second hand to save some $$ and it works. The thing to take away from this, is to see the part working ok first.
Another great video Greg. Your bro-inlaw seems like a great guy.
Love your videos, very informative. As far as I'm concerned you're probably too generous with replacement cards.
Great work, looking forward to the next video.
You should talk to Northwest Repair, he's a GPU repair technician an has an amazing collection of videos. He's US based and has great prices!
are the 2 BGA right above the gou die supposed to be empty? 12:16
Great video very nice of you to give him a card
Great video Greg. Nate seems like an awesome guy ✊💪🥰👍😇. Get him on again!
Looks like there was moisture around the VRAM chips on that 3080 (at 9:38), maybe that could be part of the reason why? You should let it dry out for a while
Such a good brother-in-law you are!
send that 3080 to northwestrepair and you'll get it back working like brand new! Love the series, keep it up!
I had an MSI Ventus 3080 (i think it was my first 3080) and it gave me nothing but problems. No matter how many times I tried DDU, it was consistently unstable, countless crashes to desktop, just a nightmare of a card. Was so glad to get rid of it.
Northwestrepair recommends staying away from gigabyte and msi cards
MSI Ventus on 3080 or higher cards are pretty bad. On lower end cards it should be fine. If you're gonna go with MSI, I'd recommend their gaming x/trio or Suprim cards, their Ventus is just bad.
@@JCmeister9 Yup, that is pretty much correct. I own a 3080 Gaming X Trio from day one, and I can say that I had little to none issues with it
@@TheBlueBunnyKen It was years ago, haven't touched one since. Only Asus since and currently a 4080 FE.
@@adamsteinbacher2629 ah
I have seen a very similar issue from a Bad power Supply as well, minus the Artifacts. If you have these symptoms without Artifacts it can be the PSU. It might turn on fine but as soon as it gets stressed it lacks enough power to keep the Computer running & will Blue Screen Crash or Reset.
The artifacting makes this very different. Almost always graphics card related at that point.
@@GregSalazar Agreed
Hey Greg, Northridge Fix is a great place to get that card repaired. Alex is a BOSS when it comes to Electronic Repair.
Biggest problem with him though, is a lot of his solder repair wouldn't even pass class 1 or 2 IPC standards so it'd likely just fail again in the near future. Northwest Repair would be a lot safer bet when it comes to reliability.
Digital camo, that's a new one. And I will definitely use that term now.
oh the digital camo lol love that phrase!
My ocd could not take my eyes off the none pci express slot covers!
Agree, but for sure i would do a quick tear down repaste, i have fixes lots of artifacting cards with this quick fix, if not it a rather complicated Memory pad, which for me is one Echalon above what i feel comfortable with, i am with you on the soldering, when i was a young 17 yo Marine i got NASA certication for Soldering which i used at General Dymaics in the 1980s with build stuff F-16 and Phalax Computerized Gatling guns they used on Ships. But i sure couldnt see what could back 45 years ago..
Cheers Greg
We, uh, literally did that :-) Tore it down, cleaned, and repasted. Also visually inspected.
@@GregSalazar lol no wonder we never returned to the moon if that's what NASA teaching:)
That card has 100% been mined on, the 3080's were popular due to the GDDR6X VRAM. The black screen is usually caused by VRAM issues too.
I imagine some dude in a gas station with a trench coat and he opens it up and he has a bunch of video cards on the inside.
I love fix of flop, keep it up!
Mr Greg, excellent work. May I request a video from optimal --> high-end performance for Starfield. PC specs, graphics cards, ram etc, 1080p, 1440p, 4k. Would be very interested in your takes.
"Gas station video card" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 But it looks like it's crooked.
that is an incredible outro from a beginner! even for someone fairly experienced I'd say. He really is a natural... but not at making good judgement calls :)
That is one of the best intros and purchase stories that I've heard in some time.
At what temperature does the solder start to flow again? Would it be possible to hit the PCB with a temperature-controlled heat gun without damaging the other components?
Had a similar issue back in the day, bought a second hand evga 970 and it lasted for like half a year then it would randomly start loosing signal to the monitor even while just browsing the web
good stuff greg, thanks for the vids
that ventus model is the problematic one with breaking backplates and overheating memory temps due to wrongly designed thermal tape thickness (during the early months from the release of 3080s if I remember correct). That card could be one of the early release versions
could have also been put through 1000's of hours of bitcoin farming too lol
Send that 3080 to Northwestrepair, that chap knows what he's doing.
Why the hell was the GPU mounted in the bottom slot? Some motherboards have the bottom slot rated for PCIe 3.0 x4 only! At best it's usually x8.
I got my 3080 from a Goodwill lol. Surprisingly "knocks on wood" it's been serving me well for years now.
I bought a dog-park 1070 and it's working fine!
its a designflaw from the msi 3080 mine did the same somehow this is not under waranty. had to go back to my good old gtx970 which is holding up strong till this day!
Had glitching like that on a rx580 that I had set up on a mining bios... in windows would glitch but in mining software would be fine. maybe its not on original vbios?
That right most ram stick also seems like it has Corsair Platinum RGB's infamous dead leds.
The 3080 in the bottom slot appeared to have alot of sag. I bend a slot cover to fit and put it at the end of the card for support...seems to work.
Interesting. I see that same weird artifacting on my 3 monitors connected to my Lenovo dock. I have to restart the laptop to fix the issue.
Nate Dawg and Ol'Greg! Great video!!!
Any concern using only a 710w PS to test that 3080? Probably not the issue, but worth mentioning…?
My rig with 7700X and 3080 pulls around 550W last time I checked, so I'd say it's not THAT big of an issue
Doesn’t putting the card in the oven help with the weak solder points problem?
It would also appear that his Corsair memory has an issue with the lighting on one of the memory sticks,
some of the RGB led's on the far right stick is showing the wrong color (even before Windows starts).
That's just a software issue.
Man, Greg's sister real hit the jackpot with Nate, I'm straight but even I find him cute and funny as heck. Hope to see him more on the channel.
Folks, this is a prime example of what I've been trying to get across; DON'T buy used graphics cards (from gas stations OR ebay). You don't know what you're getting, you have no idea how long it will last, and you don't get a warranty. I know someone in the comments will say "I bought mine used and I've had it for 5 years with no problems"----yep, and there's other people who bought used and only had it last for a couple of weeks---sold as-is, no warranty
Bought a used 3070ti from FB.
Zero problems
@@soccerguy2433Yep, and 10 other guys bought the same card that was dead. Your comment makes no sense, because you don't speak for everyone.
I'm curious what's wrong with msi cards? Afaik their liquid coolers are bad and all but not with the cards right?
Oh no i was hoping it was not the classical hosing down at the gas station... lol, guess he had to learn the hard way. Though try that new vbios flasher. Might save him.
Suggestion. seems like the card dont have enough Vcore, so either underclock or overvolt.
I have the same motherboard the chip set fan started making the grinding sound about a year ago just sent them an email and they sent a couple replacements
Artifact won’t mean anything anymore from now on. It’s going to be digital camo from this day forward. Thank you Mr Studios’ BIL
I have the same CPU cooler it does the same noise it goes away when I either lay down the pc or lower the fan rpm with fan controller till it goes away then I just bump up the intake fan