I got so fed up with different control software that I simply went with OpenRGB when I built my new PC in May. It controls the lighting on my Fractal fans, EK AIO, Corsair RAM, Corsair keyboard and Razer mouse whilst using virtually zero resources.
Yeah, I use Linux so none of the proprietary software's have ever been an option. I only used openrgb cause i had hardware with rgb i couldnt turn off. With my new build I went with no rgb lol and a keyboard with built in rgb controls... which all should have. Openrgb though is pretty decent for having all in one saves a lot of time and resources since windows uses 12gb of ram at idle every little bit counts.
Great solution to the RGB software pollution indeed. What the video didn't go over was how much extra CPU resources the software will use when you add this Chroma functionality in comparison to just have it control a keyboard and a mouse, for instance. THIS is what's important for the real geeks.
Jay, a Molex connector can deliver up to about 130 watts on the 12v line depending on the quality of the wiring backing it up; SATA can't do that. A SATA 15-pin connector is designed to deliver a maximum of 1.5 amps of current at 3.3 volts and 5 volts and 2.0 amps at 12 volts.
im pretty sure ive seen someone who worked on this device comment that very same reason as to why they went with molex. SATA just cannot supply the power needed.
Tbh, I just bought a Chinese RGB controller on AliExpress (7,55 $) and it's driven by a remote. The only thing that is linked to my PC is the SATA power and the USB 3.0 cable to insert the light show/program that I want. Once it's done, I remove the USB cable, I close the software, and from this moment all my RGB thingies are just controlled by my remote. No CPU resources used. No RAM space wasted. And the best part is that I just have to click on one button of the remote to shut it down when I go to bed (because my PC is next to my bed and I hate having a UFO with flashing lights trying to blind me when I'm trying to fall asleep ^^).
You should keep it at 6 not override to 12 - the count is there to get effects correct for waves etc, not anything to do with power. You have 6 addresses out of your maximum of 8.
This right here. Theres people including myself running 3- Lian Li SL-Infinity fans on a channel which are 40 LED fans for a total of 120 LEDs per channel but the lights are paralleled so there is actually only 20 addressable LEDs per fan and they will be recognized as 60 LEDs on any RGB software.
Sometimes you have to override the bead count to get all the lights to work correctly. With my CM Halo fans I had to re-assign the number from 16 to 24 so I could split the hub lights from the rings. This allows more customizability with your devices. I had to set the fans as a strip. The 16 ring lights are at the beginning 8, and ending 8 of the strip. For me, having exact counts is absolutely necessary because I go full bore with customization. My three Halo fans have a bounce/fill effect, and the hubs are the same, but reversed. Now if you have multiple devices connected to one port via a hub then you're absolutely correct. It's because Synapse 3 only sees the ports, not the devices. Three fans will only appear, and function as one, and the effect will be applied to those devices separately.
Parallel wired LEDs are counted as 1 and multiple parallel strips need to be counted by the longest strip. The way ARGB works is that each LED will read its bits and then forwards the remainder to the next. Counting is necessary to make sure the final LED gets its bits. With a pair of strips, one 10 long and one 20 long, needs 20 count. The first 10 paired will operate identically. The remaining 10 will operate fine on the long strip while nothing on the short strips gets updated.
16:09 the grid is basically a large bitmap but razer isnt rendering the bitmap so you dont know what the colors will be, they should look at how signal does it and make their background of that grid the actual bitmap so its easier to judge.
Just built my first pc using your videos for reference. Now I’m going through your videos about tuning. Built in the NV5 with a 13700k/7800XT using the phanteks glacier one and their d30 fans.
I was going to say that it isn't about how old molex connectors are... It's about the power. And, since that's the reason Jay bought this, it's as good as he's gonna get.
I really like the narrative style you use to present your topics. Even though I am not so interested in RGB, I found your presentation very interesting. This is why I rarely miss your videos.
We desperately need newer standards in this segment, preferably both for the interface and software. OpenRGB does help, but they can also only do so much with reverse engineering. In the meantime I have a rPI Pico with Corsair Link emulation and some soldered ARGB connectors, but the box looks nice as well, as long as it works with OpenRGB (because the Pico emulating a Corsair Lighting node pro, it can only run 2 headers, not 6). Also you should probably set the LEDs to the number of controllable LED groups. So the 12x strip should be 6, not 12, because it can only control 6 groups. It needs the count not for power or anything physical, but to be able to correctly do effects. So for something like a ping on the strip if you set it to 12, but it only has 6 groups it will cycle to LED 1-6 and you will see it, and then continue with 7-12 which doesn't exist, so you can't see anything as it addresses LED groups that don't exist. So you should probably just let it figure out the count on its own.
Oh, you mean so one could use a pattern made in Synapse directly in OpenRGB? The way you can open a .doc in any word processor? I think it's coming to Windows 11. @@cromefire_
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100% Corsair connectors are a step backwards in the way they are right now.
I bought a Corsair hub for my new build and was grumpy because I just use Synapse for my peripherals...returning it and getting one or 2 of the Razer! Thanks!!! 11 fans, 2 reservoirs...that should cover it nicely. Just have to deal with onboard lighting for the MoBo and RAM. Which sucks, but doable. Drives me crazy...I don't want/need fancy FX, just a solid color with a dimmer. Yeesh. Having finished the video now, yes, 1000% getting these over the Corsair. This is going to make things SOOO much easier. I had no idea these were a thing. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!!
I just finished setting up one of these in my system to handle my Phanteks D30 fans with SignalRGB. It works great and was easy to set up. I did have to re-wire a few things though since it will only handle 2 of the fans per channel. Other than that it's pretty awesome. Especially for only being $40.
@@lyianx they do have alot of LEDs I believe (I've got the 140MMs and the 120s) it's like 30 or 32 per fan. I could be mistaken how exactly it's setup but I know I tried initially with them daisy chained (3 connected together) and I would get weird lighting problems. Like part of the fan a default color or not illuminated. As soon as I reduced the chain to 2 fans per channel the problems went away. I haven't played around with it enough to see if it was a signal RGB problem or the Razer controller but, it all works now.
@@chrisf.2857 How have you done your wireing then? I'm asking because I want to buy these fans and maybe also the Razor Chroma to controll them. I would have 3 140mm D30 on one channel as intake. You tried daisy chaining all 3, wich was too much LEDs per channel, so how did you still have 3 fans basically right next to eachother without the 3rd one being daisy chained to the 2 previous ones?
Being able to give the ports a "user friendly alias" would be great. That way it can use Port4 internally but you can see Rez, or front bottom fan, etc
@jayztwocents you need to break down the fans into separate fans on the software (fine to wire them in series still). You do this on that first screen you were on with the controller by selecting "add fan". Then divide the number of LEDs up between the fans. It means you can then have different effect on each fan as well. And in the studio you can also name them
That overcurrent warning is super cool to see. ASUS need to implement that. Would be interesting to see if other companies eg corsair, lian li have that.
I have one of these for my build, I have too many rgb devices for my motherboard headers and I did not want any splitters in my build. I love this little box and will definitely recommend it to anyone wanting to build with a bunch of rgb devices. I did have an issue with the 3pin connectors staying plugged in, but I made it work once I cable managed everything together.
Ive been using one for 3 years now to sync my non corsair products to signal RGB. I often get drops though as not all three pin connectors are built equally. Some wedge snug others fall out over time. I've remedied by wrapping with black Teflon tape to make up difference in connector width.
Same here, had mine for nearly 3 years and always had problems with the connectors not staying plugged in. After using a new Razer hub in another build, without the problem, I found out that the old one had some plastic pieces that prevented the connectors from fully sliding on. Removed the top plastic, cut them away, and I had no problems since then.
Being able to get different effects, depending on the position of the components in the virtual layout is actually pretty awesome, because effects will stretch over the whole plane. This way, especially rain or the effects that run from side to side, are represented 1:1 in the real world, and you will see the colors changing in the order there are laid out physically.
I bought one of these as well, and one of the reasons was it's compatibility. (Plus I have a Razor mouse and headphone stand.) I love it. Agree with some of the usability issues of Synapse but it gets the job done.
Aw man, about time. This thing is awesome. I've had mine for years. As others have said, the led count is for effects, not for a total. Having a higher count then what's actually addressable isn't too bad, but having less will have the end of the strip not light up. Also, it's molex for a reason. It's a higher power spec, allowing the device to actually power a huge amount of LED's per channel.
I went total Lian Li. Their 3 packs have the controller that can handle up to 8 fans with leds etc. Daisy chaining and only connector helps a lot. Takes 2 Satas to power it fully though...
Been using this exact controller for 2 years and absolutely love it! Been able to make the fan blades one color and the rgb rings on the fan frame a different color. Have never had an issue or a bugged update. I do agree that they need a way to rename the connected devices though. Thanks for doing this video!
I have one of these controllers and while I'm no longer using it, I did have good experiences with it (when I had Razor devices especially). I agree with you that RGB hardware and software in general is a mess and it would be nice if the companies would cooperate with each other.
that blue loading ring on the mouse cursor does the same for me & i figured out its because of the lian li software & soon as close out of it from system tree
Thanks so much for making this video! I am putting together a computer for a friend and the board I am using is an older Z370 that only has a 12v rgb Header! Absolutely perfect timing
Great thing about synapse is that you can use it for lots of other companies components and peripherals like MSI, Asrock Lian li etc. I use synapse for all my razor peripherals with my corsair icue fans+ adapter and argb aio to the chroma hub and msi gpu all detected and working.
Been using one of these since 2021. I had to RMA the first one because two of the ports died, but the replacement has been solid. It's been being used in combination with SignalRGB as I have another third party controller that is no longer made in combination with it to give me a total of 14 individually controlled headers.
heres my question. how many fans technically can you run off just one of these? I need like 11 fans in my new build and dont want to use a bunch of controllers or log up my system headers. so i wanted to get something like this and some sort of pwm header hub as well. I plan to use the phanteks D30s and some Thermaltake Swafans.
Ya I'm a bit late considering I was born early 90's. Grew up a console household. Consoles just don't cut it for me anymore, so I got lots to learn. @@chosen1one930
Yo Jay this video was a real live saver for me! When I set up my system roughly 4 years ago I bought a little box with sata power that connects to the motherboard rgb header and has like 9 rgb ports on it. I'm rocking static green color and everything seemed fine (I have like 16 RGB devices in my system so I daisy chained a few of those 9 ports). About 3 months ago the RGB on my GPU block started to go nuts. It would color cycle, some LEDs would randomly turn off/on etc. I was gonna drain/refill it over new years anyway so I began researching how to swap the RGB strip in my GPU Block, as I figured that was the problem. That is until I saw your video. I tried to change it to pure white as you said, and just like that it began to act strange on all my RGB stuff. So I bought the same razer box you picked up and just like that everything is working fine again. The GPU instantly went back to normal. To relieve the stress I put what I could on the razer box and left everything else on my sata splitter box. Anyway, I just wanted to say that this video saved me the headache of taking apart my GPU block, replacing the LED strip only for it to not even fix my problem! Also probs to Razer, the box actually works just fine with SignalRGB! Thank you so much for the awesome content and hard work and good luck with your health in 2024!
As someone who has been using Razer products for nearly 15 years now, I'd like to point out that Razer Synapse 3 has a memory leak right now where it slowly uses more and more memory over time, however the Task Manager and similar tools (Resource Monitor, Process Hacker, etc) won't show any Razer processes using high amounts of memory. You'll realize it's Razer's software when you restart the "Razer Game Manager" service and suddenly your RAM usage drops by 10+ gigabytes.
Been using the 1st gen version since it came out, its really useful. Only downside is the ports are a touch too large to for the cable to stay in snug on its own.
I actually used this exact box and 6 argb strips to make a budget ambient back light system my setup. You can use the ambient awareness function and have a system similar to the Phillips back lighting system for a fraction of the cost.
I used the razer argb hub because i had zero argb headers on my motherboard and it works great, i use signal argb to keep everything together and easy, only downside is its really hard to remove argb connections from the hub, takes a very strong grip! Other than that its great
I've been using the Razer Chroma module for a couple of years now and have been very happy with it. I am also overloading it but only once in a great while does it show that warning message and once I shut down the system and power it back up again, it works just fine.
Another option for this would be an aquacomputer quadro or octo paired with an aquacomputer farbwerk or something else that runs over the RGBPX bus that aquacomputer have, that would sort you for fan control and also RGB all in one piece of software
Using Aquacomputer Quadro with older Aquaero 6XT and love it, just one thing which I don't like on Aquacomputer is new license which you need to purchase But agree with you on Aquacomputer stuff Once I had installed Razer Synapse SW and CPU usage was crazy that time hahaha, won't touch Razer stuff 😂
@@jurakerleha Yeah, but then you get an amount of licence included with each part of their ecosystem you buy into, I've not found the updates to be doing anything really all that useful, I'm out of the year that came with my quadro and I just ignore the prompt to update whenever I have to launch up (which is rare as I run static fans anyways), by all means the purchase isn't necessary, just gets rid of the annoying popup whenever you launch telling you there's a new update haha
@@andreyhoru1873 oh does that apply for the rgb too or are fan and rgb tied together in those profiles? I can't say I've used the rgb side of it but I have heard good things of it
@@blazingmatty123 Agree it's bit annoying regarding the updates pop-ups,I think I'm on Aquasuite x36 which is okay and as you said don't need to update for every new version etc Still don't understand why Jay never reviewed Aquacomputer stuff,they're legendary in water cooling and fan control,their Aquaero series are legends and software would say it's one of the best
8:33 SATA power has a limit of 4.5A at 12V (54W) the controller can output upto 60w to the connected LEDS (thats after efficiency losses), so SATA connector wasnt really an option here
Dannng I weas looking for a video about this product for some time now. Got similiar problem in my system and was wondering how capable this little box is. Thanks Jay!
This is why people Love/Hate RGB. Like I like RGB when it works. It allows a level of customization that is really nice. But getting it all to work, play nice, and scale is not easy. And sometimes you can't even tell why it's not working. I'm glad you found something you thing will work for you.
You can add more fans or strips per channel, press the add fan/strip, which he was hovering over but didnt press. Also, each Chroma RGB hub needs it's own dedicated usb plug in the motherboard due tompower draw, it says not to use a usb hub.
I have one of these, and the only gripe I had with it is the sockets for the RGB plugs were too tight and hard to plug in. And since you can't see the pins while you do it, I ended up bending pins. So I ended up taking the case apart and ditching the top cover, and putting magnets on the bottom. I only kept the bottom plastic intact. It works great.
Jay and Crew. You folks are some of those that when I see success I don’t think you were given it or don’t deserve it. I think Good on you. Why? Because even with all of your pressure and obligations you still love the core of what you do and it shows in every video you guys post. I wish you and yours a Very Merry Christmas and I hope that life treats you and your families more then kindly in this coming year!
You cannot install 2 of them on the same system! It is documented by razor on their website. Only 1. Also if you have phantek fans or other argb phantek, you won't be able to properly fit them. I bought some y adapter online to fix this issue cause it did cause a lot of problem.
I used to have that same controller and I remember being upset about the molex connection but I guess it needs that as it can provide more power than a data connection and that’s how it is able to support 80 leds on each channel
Reminds me of the same issues you deal with in programmable light shows... 12v pixels and you can squeeze about 200 in a string before the color gets off and requires power injection... not really sure if power injection is an option here, though
This is what I use in my custom Batman build with Arctic ARGB fans. Its sooooo good, by far the best thing I've come across for customisation. Effectively have 3 different effects behind different bat logos.
I just built a new system using a Lian Li o11 dynamic Razer edition case, ASRock Taichi Razer motherboard, and Razer 140mm fans exhausting out the top. However my intake fans are Pccooler fans and they would not communicate with the argb header on the motherboard. So I plugged everything into one of these Razer control boxes and everything is working flawlessly now. It was definitely worth the purchase!
I'm surprised you're only just getting one of these, Jay. I was given one of these as a test sample a month before they were released and I was able to give feedback as well. I've been messing with the different effects for a few years now, so I may be able to help if you have any issues. I've never tried any other controller and I doubt I ever will. The only thing is I believe you can still only use 1 of these controllers per computer, which sucks since I have way more than 6 rgb devices and some need to share effects.
Now you're in my wheelhouse, Jay. I have one of these, and it works great. If you want to name the devices you have to name them in Chroma Studio. That won't translate to the hub, but once you get to playing with your chroma profiles you won't ever touch the hub portion of the software. A known issues for this is it's limitation in Synapse 3 only allowing one hub per PC. When you plug the second one in it won't do anything. Razer HQ is trying to address it, but for now if you want 2 hubs you'll have to buy their dev kit hub. (The one that controls external LEDs for your desk.) For this device Molex is perfect because you may not have a spare SATA cable, or plug available on the SATA line. It allows you to completely bypass SATA altogether. You can also buy adapters to convert it from molex to SATA. They did this so everyone can use it. That config also allows you to know exactly where it's plugged in because it'd most likely be the only device on a molex line. Just be prepared for Synapse 3 shenanigans because it LOVES to crash while working in Studio for too long. Sometimes it won't let you rename the folder groups, or devices until you close it, and re-open it. I've had one of these since they first launched so I have a tiny bit of experience with it. At current I have 3 CM Halo fans, 4 Deep Cool fans, and an Airgoo strip connected to it. The Halo fans, and strip are on their own ports, but the 4 deep cool fans are connected to a singular hub that's connected to one of the Chroma ports.
You can use argb spliter with sata or molex connectors it’s deliver power from psu and you can forget about overcurrent. It crabs + and ground from psu and ground and data from controller.
Signal RGB works with the Razor Chroma Controller perfectly. I also have Lian-Li controller that works well too. Only problem is that the refresh rate is slow when you have more than two channels. Signal RGB doesn’t have any data for EK parts but they are basically LED strip and can be manually added.
I picked up the Razer Chroma early this year. I'm running 5 Be Quiet light wings fans through it. I control the lighting on my fans, ram, gpu and keyboard with Signal RGB. It takes a little work, but everything looks amazing. Signal has a few videos on RUclips to help you set it up.
Signal is so much better! Please do a little review on signal. I absolutely love it. Everything that you showcased there in razer studio is significantly improved in signalRGB Currently using Lianli strimer v2, 6 cooler master halo fans, 1 ek rgb fan, and a gpu 12 LED holder. All connected via the razer chroma. So in total I exceed the total amount the controller can “handle” but still works great. Thanks for all the awesome videos as always❤
I'm using Cooler Master hubs. They work perfectly and allow you to change each connected device individually. One of the two is ARGB 2. And the software works decently enough. Always make a backup of your profiles when you finish though. It always messes with them when you update the software and updating is mandatory. The only thing I hate about it.
That's just like the old ROG Aura Terminal from Asus that they discontinued, it has 4 channels, up to 90 rgb leds per channel but with a max of 210 leds connected. It has a 5th channel but it is for the logo. It has SATA power and as someone mentioned, there is a limit on the power SATA connectors can deliver, but the ROG Aura Terminal also came with an external 19v brick to use it externally. I like it because at the time it was basically the only one that good, but Asus discontinued it, and now I'm surprised that there is not a lot more of those with microcontrollers that communicate with software to set them up.
I just stuck an esp32 with wled on in the side of the case. Works fine. Addresses upto 256 LEDs without a problem. Unlimited customisation for less than $5
I bought one of these and it works absolutely excellent. I too was having the same problem. I was also so tired of having multiple RGB softwares, so when I would go and turn on my computer I would have like six different softwares trying to boot and it would slow it down. But this controller has seem to take care of all of that in my system. It works awesome. I've had no problems with razer products. And this is no different. It's a good product and it took care of the problem. My motherboard doesn't have RGB headers. So that was the whole reason I got this.
I have 4 in my rig, the only downside to synapse (last time i checked) is it will only recognize 1 controller where as openRGB and signal rgb(i currently use this one) will recognize all of them. I would definitely go back to synapse if they would change it to recognize more than 1 controller at the same time
I’ve never had a bad experience with Razer. Chroma gives you a huge amount of customisation that does require you to watch a RUclips tutorial. But I’ve loved their products. Asus on the other hand has been a huge pain to work with along with their 50 million updates every single year.
I have corsair icue setup with a dynamic temperature profile. Its rather useful because I can glance at my pc and see about where my temps are from the scale I set
Since I have a razer mouse and keyboard, I snagged one of these a few months ago. It's been great so far! MSI dragon center for RAM and MOBO lighting. The rest is on the Razer chroma controller.
I love this thing. As soon as I saw the thumbnail I thought it was what it was. I use this and the Razer PWN fan controller to control everything in my customized Alienware Graphics Amplifier
The Razer hub is really good, currently using it together with my MB to get 8 dedicated ports with one of them connected to another replicating hub providing power to some fans with a mirrored effect. It is basically invisible with only the USB plug connected and works perfectly on Linux with OpenRGB.
Are you daisychaining the fans or splitting them? If daisychain then you should be counting the individual LEDs to address them in a line, if they are just split, then you have only the total addressable locations of a single fan (so 20?). I think when I get around to a new PC and wanting any LED lights inside, I'm going to try and use WLED as the controller, much more options and can sync my whole room if I want. Just need to find some fans that allow me to run them directly.
Curious, what does Signal RBG say once it's connected up? I gotta say, I love the Lian Li connectivity with the signal RGB software, every led customised, with layouts etc.
Picked this up last week in order to work around an matx motherboard that had no argb headers. It works great, glad to see some cool customization options from your perspective!
this is why for my next build i think ill be using corsair icue link, seems allot less wires and easier to chain together different devices. though they are pricey.....
I was using icue for over a year up to v5.9 & the deal breaker for me was I had the basic software folder in Program Files at 420mb which was fine BUT I found another icue folder was at the same time installed in Program Data that was 2.1gb. I did a re-install and still the same but this icue was not the icue link software so the newer link may not have the Program Data folder. So two separate folders created for rgb!
I use that very same Razer ARGB Hub in my system, i have a total of 14 ARGB Devices (11 Fans, 2 RGB Strips and the EK Waterblock) all connected, I use the different ports for different fans (3 Intake Fans at front, 3 Fans on Radiator 1, 3 Fans on Radiator 2, 2 fans on Radiator 3, 2 LED Strips and the ARGB Water block. Best hub i have ever used so far
I bought 2 interfaces from Coolermaster, I have almost the same number of LEDs, with one exception, I have 4 strings of UV LEDs, and they are connected to the 4 pin 12V connector. Because they either have to be on or off. Functions perfectly. And works with Aura Sync. I have a be quiet case and took out the controller, precisely because I only wanted to work with one type of software. I can also fully adjust the RGB of my Corsair memory and of the GPU as well.
I have 4 of these in my family computers and swear by them. They simply work with no issues no matter what rgb software I use. I couldn’t recommend them enough.
programable limit of an A-RGB string 1023 (10 bits), and they be daisy chained, so the standard can do at lot. The limit is the power.... Dave garage has a lot of videos with rgb light, and his night driver project...
I tried Signal but couldn't get on with it since it wouldn't let me do what I wanted. Curious to see how OpenRGB differs. Unlikely I'll switch from iCue at the moment, but I hate that RGB is so vendor lock-in
My problem with the Razer RGB controller is not only the Molex connector for power, but each physical channel makes the weakest physical connection out there. I literally had to use a ton of zip ties to secure each connection into each port because it was so poor. If they aren’t fully secure they may not power on. Otherwise operationally it works fine, the only other thing is that you do need to know how many leds there are on the device that’s connected
I have been using that for over a year and used it in 2 systems. I had it originally in my Alienware Aurora R13 and you can get a SATA to Molex adapter to use with it. That's how I ran it. Best part is you can set each individual LED a different color. So, my fans, the hub is one color, and the ring is another color. My only complaint is the software MUST be running.
One more con, is I hate the recessed connectors. Some connectors can be a pain to plug in if they are just a little bigger then the recessed hole, but even with that. I think it's the best ARGB solution ATM.
I have the croma hub as well. That along with an Asrock z790 Taichi and corsair vengeance RGB ram. I use Signal RGB to control it all in 1 program. It even does my Rival 600 and GMMK pro. They are adding support for all kinds of things all the time. I know it also works with Mystic light and Aura as well. 1 piece of software to run them all...
The led count in the software is for the series count, it doesn't care about parallel. It needs series to address properly. Setting your dual string of 6 to 12 just tells it its 12 led's long so in reality you have 6 extra addressed led's that dont exist.
That's the controller i use for my large build as well. 14 fans at the moment plus cpu and gpu block. The molex connector is a bit annoying, but that's the one complaint i have about it.
They use a Molex power connector because it can deliver more power than a Sata power connector. Aquacomputer Farbwerk360 uses Molex power for the same reason.
Looks like a great box! I’d love to see a video on how much system resources is used by each brands software to find a definitive winner from an efficiency standpoint.
My main gripes with the Razor Chroma is the shallow connection for the RGB cables, and the fact that it defaults to Green on startup or shutdown. My Lian Li Strimer manages to keep it's settings going on startup, not sure why this doesn't.
Razor isn't a brand I hate but when I have my brands I like in mind I try to stick with them but razor going the open source and supporting third party open source software then that's something that will 100% get me to switch from them brands to razor easy. When I found out AMD had open source drivers I redone my whole system just to have AMD everything.
I've had a Razer RGB controller for almost 2 years now and I love mine. Side note for the folks that say they don't want synapse installed it works just fine with signal RGB
Razer Chroma fixed my rgb on the Inwin Dubili. 2.5" drive mount is absolutely clutch. i have this on a usb splitter and it still work: better than a lian li controller in that aspect.
Been using the fantastic razer chroma ro run my 9 Lian Li Fans argb and signalRGB runs the rest of my devices and I now dont have to fight with 6 different softwares that cant work together ( i use the lian Lis controller to run fans only, so no need to buy 2 Chromas if you have a exsisting controller) SignalRGB also controlls the fan speeds if you have the PRO+ version
I have one of these and earlier version it never worked right, and I had to use hot glue to stop the ARGB connectors from falling out. It’s now in a box with all the other RGB stuff that never worked right.
it also gave you three notifications ...white being dim,,,all red (common OC symbol) and then the software...sounds well made and exactly what i need...im getting one
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4:45 It could talk back but then it would be more expensive as then the device would need an additional RGB-controller in addition to the one on the motherboard.
Hi Jay, you need to put the quantity of addressable LEDs in the software, putting more LEDs just delays the effects. For example, a wave effect, it will continue to the last 6 LEDs that don’t exist. This technique is effective IF you have 3 fans on the top but only two in the bottom and want to match/sync the effects between the two fan sets. Example: Each fan has 6 addressable LEDs, the top would have 18 LEDs, the bottom would have 12, at the end of the LED sequence the effect just restarts at the front. Adding 6 invisible LEDs to the bottom fans would continue the effect in software helping you match all the effects between the top and bottom fans. Hope this makes sense. My setup Phantek NV7 with all the Phantek fans MSI ACE MEG X670X w/ a Razer hub on OpenRGB.
I got so fed up with different control software that I simply went with OpenRGB when I built my new PC in May. It controls the lighting on my Fractal fans, EK AIO, Corsair RAM, Corsair keyboard and Razer mouse whilst using virtually zero resources.
SignalRGB>
Just use signalRGB
Yeah, I use Linux so none of the proprietary software's have ever been an option. I only used openrgb cause i had hardware with rgb i couldnt turn off. With my new build I went with no rgb lol and a keyboard with built in rgb controls... which all should have. Openrgb though is pretty decent for having all in one saves a lot of time and resources since windows uses 12gb of ram at idle every little bit counts.
Great solution to the RGB software pollution indeed. What the video didn't go over was how much extra CPU resources the software will use when you add this Chroma functionality in comparison to just have it control a keyboard and a mouse, for instance. THIS is what's important for the real geeks.
@@jaxxarmstrong like 300mbs of ram and .2% cpu utilization
Jay, a Molex connector can deliver up to about 130 watts on the 12v line depending on the quality of the wiring backing it up; SATA can't do that. A SATA 15-pin connector is designed to deliver a maximum of 1.5 amps of current at 3.3 volts and 5 volts and 2.0 amps at 12 volts.
im pretty sure ive seen someone who worked on this device comment that very same reason as to why they went with molex. SATA just cannot supply the power needed.
Tbh, I just bought a Chinese RGB controller on AliExpress (7,55 $) and it's driven by a remote. The only thing that is linked to my PC is the SATA power and the USB 3.0 cable to insert the light show/program that I want. Once it's done, I remove the USB cable, I close the software, and from this moment all my RGB thingies are just controlled by my remote. No CPU resources used. No RAM space wasted. And the best part is that I just have to click on one button of the remote to shut it down when I go to bed (because my PC is next to my bed and I hate having a UFO with flashing lights trying to blind me when I'm trying to fall asleep ^^).
What's the model of the controller?
You should keep it at 6 not override to 12 - the count is there to get effects correct for waves etc, not anything to do with power. You have 6 addresses out of your maximum of 8.
This right here. Theres people including myself running 3- Lian Li SL-Infinity fans on a channel which are 40 LED fans for a total of 120 LEDs per channel but the lights are paralleled so there is actually only 20 addressable LEDs per fan and they will be recognized as 60 LEDs on any RGB software.
Sometimes you have to override the bead count to get all the lights to work correctly. With my CM Halo fans I had to re-assign the number from 16 to 24 so I could split the hub lights from the rings. This allows more customizability with your devices. I had to set the fans as a strip. The 16 ring lights are at the beginning 8, and ending 8 of the strip. For me, having exact counts is absolutely necessary because I go full bore with customization. My three Halo fans have a bounce/fill effect, and the hubs are the same, but reversed.
Now if you have multiple devices connected to one port via a hub then you're absolutely correct. It's because Synapse 3 only sees the ports, not the devices. Three fans will only appear, and function as one, and the effect will be applied to those devices separately.
Parallel wired LEDs are counted as 1 and multiple parallel strips need to be counted by the longest strip. The way ARGB works is that each LED will read its bits and then forwards the remainder to the next. Counting is necessary to make sure the final LED gets its bits. With a pair of strips, one 10 long and one 20 long, needs 20 count. The first 10 paired will operate identically. The remaining 10 will operate fine on the long strip while nothing on the short strips gets updated.
16:09 the grid is basically a large bitmap but razer isnt rendering the bitmap so you dont know what the colors will be, they should look at how signal does it and make their background of that grid the actual bitmap so its easier to judge.
Just built my first pc using your videos for reference. Now I’m going through your videos about tuning. Built in the NV5 with a 13700k/7800XT using the phanteks glacier one and their d30 fans.
i just got a 7800XT as well, but im gonna use a 7950X3D
11:14 but if you set it to 12 if there is only 6 "pairs" any light effects will be shown only half way.
About the Molex, apparently high LED count controllers use Molex because SATA just can't provide enough juice to reach higher numbers
I was going to say that it isn't about how old molex connectors are... It's about the power. And, since that's the reason Jay bought this, it's as good as he's gonna get.
@@jgorres since I have no idea where the issue itself comes from, I wonder if it could be fixed with 2 or 3 data connectors on the same controller
humm.... explains why my pump was molex then... and i went an used a SATA adapter with it.
I really like the narrative style you use to present your topics. Even though I am not so interested in RGB, I found your presentation very interesting. This is why I rarely miss your videos.
We desperately need newer standards in this segment, preferably both for the interface and software. OpenRGB does help, but they can also only do so much with reverse engineering. In the meantime I have a rPI Pico with Corsair Link emulation and some soldered ARGB connectors, but the box looks nice as well, as long as it works with OpenRGB (because the Pico emulating a Corsair Lighting node pro, it can only run 2 headers, not 6).
Also you should probably set the LEDs to the number of controllable LED groups. So the 12x strip should be 6, not 12, because it can only control 6 groups. It needs the count not for power or anything physical, but to be able to correctly do effects. So for something like a ping on the strip if you set it to 12, but it only has 6 groups it will cycle to LED 1-6 and you will see it, and then continue with 7-12 which doesn't exist, so you can't see anything as it addresses LED groups that don't exist. So you should probably just let it figure out the count on its own.
There is a standard, WS2812B, aka A-RGB.
@@BigFatCone Yes, but they only standardize a basic hardware interface, not a software interface...
Oh, you mean so one could use a pattern made in Synapse directly in OpenRGB? The way you can open a .doc in any word processor? I think it's coming to Windows 11. @@cromefire_
100% Corsair connectors are a step backwards in the way they are right now.
I bought a Corsair hub for my new build and was grumpy because I just use Synapse for my peripherals...returning it and getting one or 2 of the Razer! Thanks!!!
11 fans, 2 reservoirs...that should cover it nicely. Just have to deal with onboard lighting for the MoBo and RAM. Which sucks, but doable. Drives me crazy...I don't want/need fancy FX, just a solid color with a dimmer. Yeesh.
Having finished the video now, yes, 1000% getting these over the Corsair. This is going to make things SOOO much easier. I had no idea these were a thing. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!!
I just finished setting up one of these in my system to handle my Phanteks D30 fans with SignalRGB. It works great and was easy to set up. I did have to re-wire a few things though since it will only handle 2 of the fans per channel. Other than that it's pretty awesome. Especially for only being $40.
Really? only 2 fans? That seems very limited... or those fans have too many LED's.
@@lyianx they do have alot of LEDs I believe (I've got the 140MMs and the 120s) it's like 30 or 32 per fan. I could be mistaken how exactly it's setup but I know I tried initially with them daisy chained (3 connected together) and I would get weird lighting problems. Like part of the fan a default color or not illuminated. As soon as I reduced the chain to 2 fans per channel the problems went away. I haven't played around with it enough to see if it was a signal RGB problem or the Razer controller but, it all works now.
@@chrisf.2857 How have you done your wireing then? I'm asking because I want to buy these fans and maybe also the Razor Chroma to controll them. I would have 3 140mm D30 on one channel as intake. You tried daisy chaining all 3, wich was too much LEDs per channel, so how did you still have 3 fans basically right next to eachother without the 3rd one being daisy chained to the 2 previous ones?
Being able to give the ports a "user friendly alias" would be great. That way it can use Port4 internally but you can see Rez, or front bottom fan, etc
@jayztwocents you need to break down the fans into separate fans on the software (fine to wire them in series still). You do this on that first screen you were on with the controller by selecting "add fan". Then divide the number of LEDs up between the fans. It means you can then have different effect on each fan as well. And in the studio you can also name them
Thanks, I just installed one of these a few days ago and didn't know I could do that!
That overcurrent warning is super cool to see. ASUS need to implement that.
Would be interesting to see if other companies eg corsair, lian li have that.
I have one of these for my build, I have too many rgb devices for my motherboard headers and I did not want any splitters in my build. I love this little box and will definitely recommend it to anyone wanting to build with a bunch of rgb devices. I did have an issue with the 3pin connectors staying plugged in, but I made it work once I cable managed everything together.
Ive been using one for 3 years now to sync my non corsair products to signal RGB. I often get drops though as not all three pin connectors are built equally. Some wedge snug others fall out over time. I've remedied by wrapping with black Teflon tape to make up difference in connector width.
gonna try this, ive been using zipties to hold my cables down, but its not the best solution
Same here, had mine for nearly 3 years and always had problems with the connectors not staying plugged in. After using a new Razer hub in another build, without the problem, I found out that the old one had some plastic pieces that prevented the connectors from fully sliding on. Removed the top plastic, cut them away, and I had no problems since then.
Being able to get different effects, depending on the position of the components in the virtual layout is actually pretty awesome, because effects will stretch over the whole plane.
This way, especially rain or the effects that run from side to side, are represented 1:1 in the real world, and you will see the colors changing in the order there are laid out physically.
I bought one of these as well, and one of the reasons was it's compatibility. (Plus I have a Razor mouse and headphone stand.) I love it. Agree with some of the usability issues of Synapse but it gets the job done.
Aw man, about time. This thing is awesome. I've had mine for years.
As others have said, the led count is for effects, not for a total. Having a higher count then what's actually addressable isn't too bad, but having less will have the end of the strip not light up.
Also, it's molex for a reason. It's a higher power spec, allowing the device to actually power a huge amount of LED's per channel.
I went total Lian Li. Their 3 packs have the controller that can handle up to 8 fans with leds etc. Daisy chaining and only connector helps a lot. Takes 2 Satas to power it fully though...
Been using this exact controller for 2 years and absolutely love it! Been able to make the fan blades one color and the rgb rings on the fan frame a different color. Have never had an issue or a bugged update. I do agree that they need a way to rename the connected devices though. Thanks for doing this video!
I have one of these controllers and while I'm no longer using it, I did have good experiences with it (when I had Razor devices especially). I agree with you that RGB hardware and software in general is a mess and it would be nice if the companies would cooperate with each other.
Jay could do a whole month of comparing and contrasting Signal RGB vs OpenRGB and testing em with different hardware.
that blue loading ring on the mouse cursor does the same for me & i figured out its because of the lian li software & soon as close out of it from system tree
Thanks so much for making this video! I am putting together a computer for a friend and the board I am using is an older Z370 that only has a 12v rgb Header!
Absolutely perfect timing
Great thing about synapse is that you can use it for lots of other companies components and peripherals like MSI, Asrock Lian li etc. I use synapse for all my razor peripherals with my corsair icue fans+ adapter and argb aio to the chroma hub and msi gpu all detected and working.
Been using one of these since 2021. I had to RMA the first one because two of the ports died, but the replacement has been solid. It's been being used in combination with SignalRGB as I have another third party controller that is no longer made in combination with it to give me a total of 14 individually controlled headers.
heres my question. how many fans technically can you run off just one of these? I need like 11 fans in my new build and dont want to use a bunch of controllers or log up my system headers. so i wanted to get something like this and some sort of pwm header hub as well. I plan to use the phanteks D30s and some Thermaltake Swafans.
@@Djaym0 these provide individual control for 6, so you'd need two of them if you plan to control ARGB for 11 fans.
@@rensuchan ok thanks for the quick reply.
Yeah this ARGB hub is awesome, i've used mine since it came out!
Look at the task manger, signal rgb is constantly sending data and cpu cycles, it is constant. Similar for this too.
Arctic have rgb box cheap and easy to use works fine over years and ther fanhub too works fine ! :)
Been loving the channel as a new PC user!
We all get this moment at one point
A little late aren't you? I was born in mid 80s and my new pc user moment was before 2000, better late than never
Ya I'm a bit late considering I was born early 90's. Grew up a console household. Consoles just don't cut it for me anymore, so I got lots to learn. @@chosen1one930
Yo Jay this video was a real live saver for me!
When I set up my system roughly 4 years ago I bought a little box with sata power that connects to the motherboard rgb header and has like 9 rgb ports on it. I'm rocking static green color and everything seemed fine (I have like 16 RGB devices in my system so I daisy chained a few of those 9 ports). About 3 months ago the RGB on my GPU block started to go nuts. It would color cycle, some LEDs would randomly turn off/on etc.
I was gonna drain/refill it over new years anyway so I began researching how to swap the RGB strip in my GPU Block, as I figured that was the problem. That is until I saw your video. I tried to change it to pure white as you said, and just like that it began to act strange on all my RGB stuff. So I bought the same razer box you picked up and just like that everything is working fine again. The GPU instantly went back to normal. To relieve the stress I put what I could on the razer box and left everything else on my sata splitter box.
Anyway, I just wanted to say that this video saved me the headache of taking apart my GPU block, replacing the LED strip only for it to not even fix my problem! Also probs to Razer, the box actually works just fine with SignalRGB!
Thank you so much for the awesome content and hard work and good luck with your health in 2024!
As someone who has been using Razer products for nearly 15 years now, I'd like to point out that Razer Synapse 3 has a memory leak right now where it slowly uses more and more memory over time, however the Task Manager and similar tools (Resource Monitor, Process Hacker, etc) won't show any Razer processes using high amounts of memory. You'll realize it's Razer's software when you restart the "Razer Game Manager" service and suddenly your RAM usage drops by 10+ gigabytes.
Been using the 1st gen version since it came out, its really useful. Only downside is the ports are a touch too large to for the cable to stay in snug on its own.
I had some loose cables as well, I found that extensions cables from Micro Connectors fit snugly though so I used some of those.
Would a wrap or two of electrical tape on the outside of the connector be an option to snug them up?
This is actually helpful for my sons PC we just built. Thank you for sharing and explaining this.
I actually used this exact box and 6 argb strips to make a budget ambient back light system my setup. You can use the ambient awareness function and have a system similar to the Phillips back lighting system for a fraction of the cost.
I used the razer argb hub because i had zero argb headers on my motherboard and it works great, i use signal argb to keep everything together and easy, only downside is its really hard to remove argb connections from the hub, takes a very strong grip! Other than that its great
I've been using the Razer Chroma module for a couple of years now and have been very happy with it. I am also overloading it but only once in a great while does it show that warning message and once I shut down the system and power it back up again, it works just fine.
Another option for this would be an aquacomputer quadro or octo paired with an aquacomputer farbwerk or something else that runs over the RGBPX bus that aquacomputer have, that would sort you for fan control and also RGB all in one piece of software
Using Aquacomputer Quadro with older Aquaero 6XT and love it, just one thing which I don't like on Aquacomputer is new license which you need to purchase
But agree with you on Aquacomputer stuff
Once I had installed Razer Synapse SW and CPU usage was crazy that time hahaha, won't touch Razer stuff 😂
@@jurakerleha Yeah, but then you get an amount of licence included with each part of their ecosystem you buy into, I've not found the updates to be doing anything really all that useful, I'm out of the year that came with my quadro and I just ignore the prompt to update whenever I have to launch up (which is rare as I run static fans anyways), by all means the purchase isn't necessary, just gets rid of the annoying popup whenever you launch telling you there's a new update haha
This! Plus you can have 4 profiles to swap between while not even running software itself on your PC
@@andreyhoru1873 oh does that apply for the rgb too or are fan and rgb tied together in those profiles? I can't say I've used the rgb side of it but I have heard good things of it
@@blazingmatty123 Agree it's bit annoying regarding the updates pop-ups,I think I'm on Aquasuite x36 which is okay and as you said don't need to update for every new version etc
Still don't understand why Jay never reviewed Aquacomputer stuff,they're legendary in water cooling and fan control,their Aquaero series are legends and software would say it's one of the best
8:33 SATA power has a limit of 4.5A at 12V (54W) the controller can output upto 60w to the connected LEDS (thats after efficiency losses), so SATA connector wasnt really an option here
Dannng I weas looking for a video about this product for some time now. Got similiar problem in my system and was wondering how capable this little box is. Thanks Jay!
This is why people Love/Hate RGB. Like I like RGB when it works. It allows a level of customization that is really nice. But getting it all to work, play nice, and scale is not easy. And sometimes you can't even tell why it's not working. I'm glad you found something you thing will work for you.
You can add more fans or strips per channel, press the add fan/strip, which he was hovering over but didnt press. Also, each Chroma RGB hub needs it's own dedicated usb plug in the motherboard due tompower draw, it says not to use a usb hub.
I have one of these, and the only gripe I had with it is the sockets for the RGB plugs were too tight and hard to plug in. And since you can't see the pins while you do it, I ended up bending pins.
So I ended up taking the case apart and ditching the top cover, and putting magnets on the bottom. I only kept the bottom plastic intact.
It works great.
Jay and Crew. You folks are some of those that when I see success I don’t think you were given it or don’t deserve it. I think Good on you. Why? Because even with all of your pressure and obligations you still love the core of what you do and it shows in every video you guys post.
I wish you and yours a Very Merry Christmas and I hope that life treats you and your families more then kindly in this coming year!
You cannot install 2 of them on the same system! It is documented by razor on their website. Only 1.
Also if you have phantek fans or other argb phantek, you won't be able to properly fit them. I bought some y adapter online to fix this issue cause it did cause a lot of problem.
I used to have that same controller and I remember being upset about the molex connection but I guess it needs that as it can provide more power than a data connection and that’s how it is able to support 80 leds on each channel
Reminds me of the same issues you deal with in programmable light shows... 12v pixels and you can squeeze about 200 in a string before the color gets off and requires power injection... not really sure if power injection is an option here, though
I've been using this for awhile! It's great, you can save profiles and they have a cloud save too!
This is what I use in my custom Batman build with Arctic ARGB fans. Its sooooo good, by far the best thing I've come across for customisation. Effectively have 3 different effects behind different bat logos.
I just built a new system using a Lian Li o11 dynamic Razer edition case, ASRock Taichi Razer motherboard, and Razer 140mm fans exhausting out the top. However my intake fans are Pccooler fans and they would not communicate with the argb header on the motherboard. So I plugged everything into one of these Razer control boxes and everything is working flawlessly now. It was definitely worth the purchase!
I'm surprised you're only just getting one of these, Jay. I was given one of these as a test sample a month before they were released and I was able to give feedback as well. I've been messing with the different effects for a few years now, so I may be able to help if you have any issues. I've never tried any other controller and I doubt I ever will. The only thing is I believe you can still only use 1 of these controllers per computer, which sucks since I have way more than 6 rgb devices and some need to share effects.
Now you're in my wheelhouse, Jay. I have one of these, and it works great. If you want to name the devices you have to name them in Chroma Studio. That won't translate to the hub, but once you get to playing with your chroma profiles you won't ever touch the hub portion of the software. A known issues for this is it's limitation in Synapse 3 only allowing one hub per PC. When you plug the second one in it won't do anything. Razer HQ is trying to address it, but for now if you want 2 hubs you'll have to buy their dev kit hub. (The one that controls external LEDs for your desk.)
For this device Molex is perfect because you may not have a spare SATA cable, or plug available on the SATA line. It allows you to completely bypass SATA altogether. You can also buy adapters to convert it from molex to SATA. They did this so everyone can use it. That config also allows you to know exactly where it's plugged in because it'd most likely be the only device on a molex line.
Just be prepared for Synapse 3 shenanigans because it LOVES to crash while working in Studio for too long. Sometimes it won't let you rename the folder groups, or devices until you close it, and re-open it. I've had one of these since they first launched so I have a tiny bit of experience with it. At current I have 3 CM Halo fans, 4 Deep Cool fans, and an Airgoo strip connected to it. The Halo fans, and strip are on their own ports, but the 4 deep cool fans are connected to a singular hub that's connected to one of the Chroma ports.
You can use argb spliter with sata or molex connectors it’s deliver power from psu and you can forget about overcurrent. It crabs + and ground from psu and ground and data from controller.
Signal RGB works with the Razor Chroma Controller perfectly. I also have Lian-Li controller that works well too. Only problem is that the refresh rate is slow when you have more than two channels. Signal RGB doesn’t have any data for EK parts but they are basically LED strip and can be manually added.
I picked up the Razer Chroma early this year. I'm running 5 Be Quiet light wings fans through it. I control the lighting on my fans, ram, gpu and keyboard with Signal RGB. It takes a little work, but everything looks amazing. Signal has a few videos on RUclips to help you set it up.
Signal is so much better! Please do a little review on signal.
I absolutely love it. Everything that you showcased there in razer studio is significantly improved in signalRGB
Currently using Lianli strimer v2, 6 cooler master halo fans, 1 ek rgb fan, and a gpu 12 LED holder. All connected via the razer chroma.
So in total I exceed the total amount the controller can “handle” but still works great.
Thanks for all the awesome videos as always❤
I'm using Cooler Master hubs. They work perfectly and allow you to change each connected device individually. One of the two is ARGB 2. And the software works decently enough. Always make a backup of your profiles when you finish though. It always messes with them when you update the software and updating is mandatory. The only thing I hate about it.
That's just like the old ROG Aura Terminal from Asus that they discontinued, it has 4 channels, up to 90 rgb leds per channel but with a max of 210 leds connected. It has a 5th channel but it is for the logo. It has SATA power and as someone mentioned, there is a limit on the power SATA connectors can deliver, but the ROG Aura Terminal also came with an external 19v brick to use it externally.
I like it because at the time it was basically the only one that good, but Asus discontinued it, and now I'm surprised that there is not a lot more of those with microcontrollers that communicate with software to set them up.
Found this on amazon the other day was gonna ordering but wasn't sure if I could put 3 fans per channel, now I am thanks!
This is a really cool little toy. TYSM for sharing it Jay!
I just stuck an esp32 with wled on in the side of the case.
Works fine.
Addresses upto 256 LEDs without a problem.
Unlimited customisation for less than $5
I bought one of these and it works absolutely excellent. I too was having the same problem. I was also so tired of having multiple RGB softwares, so when I would go and turn on my computer I would have like six different softwares trying to boot and it would slow it down. But this controller has seem to take care of all of that in my system. It works awesome. I've had no problems with razer products. And this is no different. It's a good product and it took care of the problem. My motherboard doesn't have RGB headers. So that was the whole reason I got this.
Thermalright makes one that splits your ARGB using your mobo header and software for like 7 bucks. It powers them via SATA.
I have 4 in my rig, the only downside to synapse (last time i checked) is it will only recognize 1 controller where as openRGB and signal rgb(i currently use this one) will recognize all of them. I would definitely go back to synapse if they would change it to recognize more than 1 controller at the same time
I’ve never had a bad experience with Razer. Chroma gives you a huge amount of customisation that does require you to watch a RUclips tutorial. But I’ve loved their products. Asus on the other hand has been a huge pain to work with along with their 50 million updates every single year.
I have corsair icue setup with a dynamic temperature profile. Its rather useful because I can glance at my pc and see about where my temps are from the scale I set
I use and love this device. All my gaming builds I make us of server motherboards. Servers motherboards don't have RGB but with this device they do.
Since I have a razer mouse and keyboard, I snagged one of these a few months ago. It's been great so far! MSI dragon center for RAM and MOBO lighting. The rest is on the Razer chroma controller.
Thanks, Jay! This answers the problem that I am having with my build. I'll set it to rainbow with MSI then I'll come back and it's off. Great Video.
I love this thing. As soon as I saw the thumbnail I thought it was what it was. I use this and the Razer PWN fan controller to control everything in my customized Alienware Graphics Amplifier
The Razer hub is really good, currently using it together with my MB to get 8 dedicated ports with one of them connected to another replicating hub providing power to some fans with a mirrored effect. It is basically invisible with only the USB plug connected and works perfectly on Linux with OpenRGB.
Are you daisychaining the fans or splitting them? If daisychain then you should be counting the individual LEDs to address them in a line, if they are just split, then you have only the total addressable locations of a single fan (so 20?).
I think when I get around to a new PC and wanting any LED lights inside, I'm going to try and use WLED as the controller, much more options and can sync my whole room if I want. Just need to find some fans that allow me to run them directly.
Curious, what does Signal RBG say once it's connected up? I gotta say, I love the Lian Li connectivity with the signal RGB software, every led customised, with layouts etc.
Honestly super cool to see Jay showcase products like this. I didn’t know if even existed before now 😮
Picked this up last week in order to work around an matx motherboard that had no argb headers. It works great, glad to see some cool customization options from your perspective!
this is why for my next build i think ill be using corsair icue link, seems allot less wires and easier to chain together different devices.
though they are pricey.....
Avoid ICUE at all costs. It causes issues. Its not worth it.
I was using icue for over a year up to v5.9 & the deal breaker for me was I had the basic software folder in Program Files at 420mb which was fine BUT I found another icue folder was at the same time installed in Program Data that was 2.1gb. I did a re-install and still the same but this icue was not the icue link software so the newer link may not have the Program Data folder. So two separate folders created for rgb!
Thank you, needed a solution for my ARGB fans. Just bought it!
I've wanted this for a long time and it looks like the software might even be good. huge razer w.
I use that very same Razer ARGB Hub in my system, i have a total of 14 ARGB Devices (11 Fans, 2 RGB Strips and the EK Waterblock) all connected, I use the different ports for different fans (3 Intake Fans at front, 3 Fans on Radiator 1, 3 Fans on Radiator 2, 2 fans on Radiator 3, 2 LED Strips and the ARGB Water block. Best hub i have ever used so far
I bought 2 interfaces from Coolermaster, I have almost the same number of LEDs, with one exception, I have 4 strings of UV LEDs, and they are connected to the 4 pin 12V connector. Because they either have to be on or off. Functions perfectly. And works with Aura Sync. I have a be quiet case and took out the controller, precisely because I only wanted to work with one type of software. I can also fully adjust the RGB of my Corsair memory and of the GPU as well.
I have 4 of these in my family computers and swear by them. They simply work with no issues no matter what rgb software I use. I couldn’t recommend them enough.
programable limit of an A-RGB string 1023 (10 bits), and they be daisy chained, so the standard can do at lot. The limit is the power.... Dave garage has a lot of videos with rgb light, and his night driver project...
I tried Signal but couldn't get on with it since it wouldn't let me do what I wanted. Curious to see how OpenRGB differs. Unlikely I'll switch from iCue at the moment, but I hate that RGB is so vendor lock-in
Open RGB is very bare ones. Signal is much much much better
What couldnt you do? Signal is extremely customizable.
My problem with the Razer RGB controller is not only the Molex connector for power, but each physical channel makes the weakest physical connection out there. I literally had to use a ton of zip ties to secure each connection into each port because it was so poor. If they aren’t fully secure they may not power on. Otherwise operationally it works fine, the only other thing is that you do need to know how many leds there are on the device that’s connected
I have been using that for over a year and used it in 2 systems. I had it originally in my Alienware Aurora R13 and you can get a SATA to Molex adapter to use with it. That's how I ran it. Best part is you can set each individual LED a different color. So, my fans, the hub is one color, and the ring is another color. My only complaint is the software MUST be running.
One more con, is I hate the recessed connectors. Some connectors can be a pain to plug in if they are just a little bigger then the recessed hole, but even with that. I think it's the best ARGB solution ATM.
I have the croma hub as well. That along with an Asrock z790 Taichi and corsair vengeance RGB ram. I use Signal RGB to control it all in 1 program. It even does my Rival 600 and GMMK pro. They are adding support for all kinds of things all the time. I know it also works with Mystic light and Aura as well. 1 piece of software to run them all...
The led count in the software is for the series count, it doesn't care about parallel. It needs series to address properly. Setting your dual string of 6 to 12 just tells it its 12 led's long so in reality you have 6 extra addressed led's that dont exist.
That's the controller i use for my large build as well. 14 fans at the moment plus cpu and gpu block.
The molex connector is a bit annoying, but that's the one complaint i have about it.
They use a Molex power connector because it can deliver more power than a Sata power connector. Aquacomputer Farbwerk360 uses Molex power for the same reason.
Looks like a great box! I’d love to see a video on how much system resources is used by each brands software to find a definitive winner from an efficiency standpoint.
My main gripes with the Razor Chroma is the shallow connection for the RGB cables, and the fact that it defaults to Green on startup or shutdown.
My Lian Li Strimer manages to keep it's settings going on startup, not sure why this doesn't.
Mine defaults everything to rainbow puke on startup and shutdown 😂
Razor isn't a brand I hate but when I have my brands I like in mind I try to stick with them but razor going the open source and supporting third party open source software then that's something that will 100% get me to switch from them brands to razor easy. When I found out AMD had open source drivers I redone my whole system just to have AMD everything.
I've had a Razer RGB controller for almost 2 years now and I love mine. Side note for the folks that say they don't want synapse installed it works just fine with signal RGB
Razer Chroma fixed my rgb on the Inwin Dubili. 2.5" drive mount is absolutely clutch. i have this on a usb splitter and it still work: better than a lian li controller in that aspect.
Been using the fantastic razer chroma ro run my 9 Lian Li Fans argb and signalRGB runs the rest of my devices and I now dont have to fight with 6 different softwares that cant work together ( i use the lian Lis controller to run fans only, so no need to buy 2 Chromas if you have a exsisting controller) SignalRGB also controlls the fan speeds if you have the PRO+ version
I have one of these and earlier version it never worked right, and I had to use hot glue to stop the ARGB connectors from falling out. It’s now in a box with all the other RGB stuff that never worked right.
it also gave you three notifications ...white being dim,,,all red (common OC symbol) and then the software...sounds well made and exactly what i need...im getting one
4:45 It could talk back but then it would be more expensive as then the device would need an additional RGB-controller in addition to the one on the motherboard.
Hi Jay, you need to put the quantity of addressable LEDs in the software, putting more LEDs just delays the effects. For example, a wave effect, it will continue to the last 6 LEDs that don’t exist. This technique is effective IF you have 3 fans on the top but only two in the bottom and want to match/sync the effects between the two fan sets.
Example: Each fan has 6 addressable LEDs, the top would have 18 LEDs, the bottom would have 12, at the end of the LED sequence the effect just restarts at the front. Adding 6 invisible LEDs to the bottom fans would continue the effect in software helping you match all the effects between the top and bottom fans.
Hope this makes sense.
My setup
Phantek NV7 with all the Phantek fans
MSI ACE MEG X670X w/ a Razer hub on OpenRGB.