Great review again Peter. Ive not commented before but I've had my Panamera for 6 months and love it. To help everyone on fuel consumption. I've done 5200 miles. My journey to work is between 15 and 25 miles depending on site visits. I have a charge point at home and at the office and charge both ends. I get around 22 miles purely electric but my journey includes a short stint on the motorway. If it was all urban I would get more through regenerative braking. I've surprised myself and love it in electric but also play on the odd occasion in sport+. The car shows a total mpg of 76.5 but that doesn't include the cost of electric used. I think there should be a way of entering this. Taking account of electric it's around 50 mpg. If I didn't play with it and just stayed in electric mpg would be crazy. Even on a recent long journey with 4 of us and luggage I still got 33mpg with no charge. For a car of this size I think the real world figures are phenomenal if like me you do around 40 to 50 miles per day. I ticked just about every main option box but one thing no one mentions, If you buy a Panamera you really must tick the 7.2kw on board charger option. With the standard charger it takes over 3 hours to charge. With the 7.2kw it takes me about an hour and 40 minutes. If I hadn't ticked that box my mpg would be a lot worse as I wouldn't always have enough time to charge it.
Thanks for the comment David. I must say I was very taken by the eHybrid. The EV mode seems very usable and then when you out it into Sport+ is absolutely flew !
It was clean when I picked it up from Porsche but the roads were very dirty that day. By the time I got home it was filthy 😥 You barely have time in a day to film a review like this let alone wash the car 😜
I am buying a Panamera ST in a couple of weeks and found this video to be very informative and enjoyable to watch. Easily the best video on the ST I’ve found. Thanks
You've convinced me. Had two Cayennes and one Panamera 4, and I always regretted selling the Panamera. Now I can have a Panamera and an electric car all-in-one. Love it !
Thanks very much Pete for pointing me in the right direction. This was prior to me following you. It’s really great to see how your content and your approach even in 2018 was spot on. This is a car I’ve been interested in for a little while.
Living proof that content lives forever. Thank you petrol ped swapped my amg gt 63s for turbos s ehybrid, a few weeks ago, influenced by your views. Most brilliant car I’ve ever owned, surely the best 4 door gt car you can drive everywhere, especially rubbish uk broads.
Hi Petrol Ped! I never comment on YT videos, but this one... I watch car videos in my spare time as i am a true car lover, but a video so enthusiastic, filled with great car angles and exterior exhaust sound, thorough explanations of the driving sensation and your honest oppinion...you really do a GREAT JOB! Especially for someone who is a potential buyer. Keep up the good job and you have my subscription.
Wow, thanks for such a lovely comment. I’m glad you enjoyed my review and thanks for the sub. Welcome to the channel. It’s great to have you onboard and best of luck with the potential purchase 👍
A tad late getting to watch this one Peter, but definitely worth the wait. Love the styling, interior is beautiful, rear passenger space is often lacking in so many “high end” vehicles but certainly not in this one, a very special place to be. Instrumentation’s is visually awesome & crisp & clear on the eye. I’m rambling because I love it. The numbers (hp & torque), spot on. The exhaust note = music to the ears. A car that becomes an extension of the driver. £120,000 ? If I could afford it, I wouldn’t hesitate. Really, really enjoyed this review & I’m thinking you did to, every second of it. Thanks for brightening my day ( been a bit of a crappy one, I’ll be glad when the man with the blade’s sorted me out !!). See you down the road mate. Cheers, Geof
Hi Geof. I was a fun car that's for sure. One of those you don't want to give back ! I was lucky to get it for a whole day and have the help of my friend and neighbour with some of the filming. Shame I can't do that with every review ! Hope you get it all sorted at your end soon and glad I helped brighten your day. Till the next vid Your mate Ped
Never driven a Porsche, I have always loved a shapely bonnet looking out from inside, the humps both sides, always loved the old Mini for that. They oooze character. Nice review Peter. Well done as always. The emblem embossed into the seats is cool.
Having another person when filming outside really does help, allows you to worry only about the presenting part and less messing around with the technology side of it. I am guessing you got the GoPro session working as the exterior shots look improved
My 2019 will be built the 2nd week of Jan with a mid march delivery. This video was helpful as my Cayman S doesn't have all the bells and whistles I ordered on the new Sport Tourismo. I ordered one sight unseen and can't wait Now.. Nice to hear what the engine sounds like..
Wonderful rooted review. At 8:00 ?? You very nicely describe how our kids feel in the back seats of our Macan. They simply love the full leather finish and the seat heating and the vents stuff and the sun screen if needed ... and the panoramic roof - it's hard to describe that their approval for the back seat design makes the parents in the front happy too. Porsche does a lot of subtle stuff very well which petrol heads often fail to acknowledge. Again, nice review - thanks for producing and sharing with all of us. (yo! also our PDK is jerky sometimes at low speeds, you are the first reviewer on YT pointing this out - thumbs up.) So you ask if we or I enjoyed your video? Sure thing I did!
Hi Peter. Thanks for the video. I really liked it. Porsche is by far my favorite car brand, so I’m happy to see this review. I still have the dream to have a Macan (you tested it also) as my family car. Cheers.
I have subcribed to you simply because I think we are so much alike.. the Porsche, especially the Ehybrid is my all time favourite,coupled with the Audi RS4. If u could review a vw Amarok you have done a trifecta for me. I got my Audi a few years ago, b9 black edition, blue as well similar to your S4. And can't stop raving abt it. Keep doing the brilliant job mate.
Cheers Ian. It’s all about how long I have the car for. Porsche were kind enough to give me the car for a day and I drafted in some help from a friend 😜
Always thought the sedan version was better looking but now I just can't stop looking at the Turismo... Think as we get older wagons just get more appealing.
Still can't get over how stunning this car looks. Would much rather have the Sport Turismo over the Cayenne, Macan and normal Panamera. Such a good looking beast and well it's a Porsche, great review once again. Like the shots and the overall style and structure. Definitely getting the reviews down to a tee. Nice stuff!
Great review. I personally need more physical buttons on the center console . However, very nice car and great comprehensive review. New subscriber and car enthusiast who owns a 2011, Audi A4. Thanks
Wow! Fantastic review as always and enjoyed all the detail. I really love the new Panamera style and this one is totally stunning and looks amazing in black! It definitely seems like a great combination with the hybrid system and I think makes for an excellent all rounder! Would love to get behind the wheel of one!
Great video covering the driving experience but very few answers for those considering buying one. Testers of hybrids talk like driving on electric is free yet it still has a per mile cost of electricity, what is it? In hybrid mode I presume (because you didn't say) that it charges during braking? What would the long term MPG be driven in this mode and never pluged in? Questions I imagine lots of people want answers to that are never covered by road testers, do another road test covering these areas please.
It didn’t needed much convincing after watching this super review for the 1st time “ well done mate “ thumbs up 👍. Hilux & clk have to go . This is the one 4 me .
Great video. Loved the roadside features. Do the rear entertainment screens tuck away a little when not used? They seemed to be quite a way forwards from the back of the front seats and slightly intrusive. Again, great video! Amazing car.
Those drive by shots are thanks to my friend and neighbour Mike. I wish I could do them with every review. Those screen don't tuck away. I agree, they do stick out quite a bit !
HI PP great video very informative and professional, I have just ordered almost this exact car. Will post a vid myself when it comes and put some longer usage term notes on the car to video as we will be driving it to Greece in August. Anyway thanks for the film - keep them coming.
Nice presentation from inside out. I’m in love with this car e-hybrid system, like then918. Can you tell me how is the brake feel, because some journalist reported that they were hard to modulate at lower speed because of the regenerative system.
Very nice. Got to say it looks good as well, used ti think that may be the designers had fallen over and banged their heads but its certainly growing on me. Of course with the price being what it is, its another one to put on the list for the lottery win.
Hi Peter, The engine in this car is from the new Audi RS4 this why the BHP & TORQUE is more or less the same give or take this is a great car no doubt it it’s typical Porsche well built very well designed and goes like stink. I’m sure your well aware Audi share many engines as they are so good I do like this car and I can tell you just love this car and to be honest I can’t blame you. Well Peter as ever great video Best wishes Alan B. P.S I hope I’m correct about the engine but I’m 99.9% sure or this will be egg on my face Big time.
Hi Mike I think we have had a previous conversation or I could be wrong in being Peter took your Vauxhall VXR for a spin and your a farmer. The question you asked me I have no idea but I assume that Audi, Porsche, VW, Lamborghini and Seat do share some parts bins so yes the could be a link with the 4 wheel drive system but I have not done my homework on this yet but I’m sure Peter could answer that one for you. Best wishes Alan B
Thank you so much for the reply and fingers crossed, Porsche will offer you the GT3! Manual or PDK, they're both exceptional transmissions in different ways!
love your uploads PD...love cars all my life its uncanny how metal glass rubber on there own don't mean any thing but put all together now that a different story ! you tube such a good medium to watch car content ....... born in England born and breed moved back to Lahore Pakistan .try to watch content from the STATES ! motor trend etc but there nothing like good old British guy reviewing cars properly .......... well done keep on giving us great content.
Amazing car and review. Thank you for sitting in the rear and commenting. can you tell me your height so I can gauge the rear seat room? Much appreciated.
Awesome is right. if you are 6'3" and enjoyed the back seat and didn't look cramped in the video, that is a great rear seat. I agree, as a plug-in owner and knowing how great it is to be in electric for short trips and hybrid around town (I usually just shut it off on the freeway/highways), this would be the ideal luxe hybrid. Thanks for the response. Given how you wring it out whilst driving for reviews, I can see how you stayed in the 20's MPG. However, I would bet if you are a 30 or so miles a day, I would suspect 40-50 MPG U.S. cycle easy, even at that weight. Crazy price, agreed, but exclusivity is what you pay for indeed.
Hi, great review as always and very helpful indeed! Just a quick question, my next car decision tore between BMW M760 Li and Porsche Panamera Sport Turismo? (Currently driving BMW 740Ld Xdrive for just little over two years). Young family with kid 4.5 & 1.5 Years Old. Thinking of change a new car before next summer? Lastly, do you know there’ll a ‘executive (long-wheel base)’ model Porsche will produce for Sport Tirismo in the near future? Thanks
Hi there Vincent. I've not driven the M760, although it does look amazing. Having just looked at the Porsche configurator it doesn't look like there is currently an Executive version of the Sport Turismo and I don't know if there a plans for one.
This is the review I’ve been looking for! Top man, comprehensive and telling me what I need to know. The price soon creeps up, and I wonder what will happen with the Taycan reportedly being around the £80k mark? Should I wait or pull the trigger? Currently driving an SQ7, any thoughts?
Firstly, SQ7...bloody brilliant car you lucky thing :-) This is a superb car but yes they can get pretty pricey once you start ticking boxes on the configurator. I honestly don't know much about the expected price of the Taycan. I would imagine it will be the same but I am also pretty sure it is going to be an awesome car !
Hi PP. A great video about a damn fine car. I'm a big Porsche fan but, like you, I'm still not sure about hybrid cars and their worth. I know that ALL car manufacturers make ridiculous claims about the mpg's of hybrid cars, but I still don't really see the point of them and in real life, as you found out, the mpg is going to be pretty much the same as a purely petrol engined car. Hybrids always cost a lot more than standard cars, weigh a lot more due to the electrics, however, you do get that power boost when the electric and petrol engines are playing nicely together. I went onto Porsche's website to have a peruse at some of the specifications of these "standard" Turismo's (Can any Porsche be really classed as standard?). Weight E-Hybrid - 2,265kg Sport 4 - 1,955kg Performance (0-60mph) EH - 4.6secs S4 - 5.5secs Cost EH - £83.3k S4 - £74.6k So what does that all mean to me? The S4 will save you about £9,000 if both bought as "bog-standard". It will be more nimble on the road than the EH as it's not having to carry an extra 310kg (683lbs! That's like having 3 very fat UK passengers in the car, 24/7!! Or 3 normal passengers from the USA!! (Only joking yanks! Honest...)). OK! So the EH will do the 0-60 faster. But how many times will anyone be doing that on British roads? Errr... If I had either car, I'd probably be doing it every time I got into it, if truth be told!! So if I got the S4, which is the one I would pick anyway, I'd save myself a few thousand miles worth of petrol, I'd be sharper on the twisty roads and without all the extra weight from the electronics and I'd be more reliable too because there aren't the extra electronics to go wrong. But there is a caveat to this. If I had a "money doesn't mean anything" buying power, then I'd be aiming for the Turbo versions. Just because I could. :-) TTFN.
Mike Jackson - Nice one Mike. I do take your point about wear and tear and turbo cooldown. By the way, I don't think 240lbs (Just over 17stones in the UK.) is overweight. I'm 6'1 3/4" (The 3/4 is very important!!) and last weighed in at about 231lbs and I definitely do not look overweight. Or so I keep telling myself. I just like to blame poor quality full-length mirrors for any, slight, "abnormality"!. Oh! I wasn't promoting any "cost per mile" for either of the Porsche's. To be honest, if you own a £70+grand car, money doesn't really come into the equation. Even though I said I'd have an extra £9k for petrol which I would do. Weight, on the other hand, IS important. But then if I was going to be picky about weight, then the Panamera wouldn't be my choice. I'd go for one of the 911's. The 911Targa 4 GTS is, in my opinion, simply stunning. And before anyone says anything, I know the 911 Targa 4 GTS isn't a lightweight 911 and if I was going for total lightness, then the 718 Cayman and Boxters would be better. But I like the security and drivability of a 4 wheel drive car.
Im currently looking to buy the Panamera and was wondering the same stuff u mentioned. However in my area the 4 doesn't come standard with Adaptive Air Suspension. It comes with the steel suspensions. The 4 also comes with the old 3L single twin-scroll turbo charged V6 engine. So if you do want the newest 2.9L engine the 4 E-hybrid is gonna be the cheapest option. Bare in mind that the 2.9L was specifically designed for the Chinese market since its Porsches biggest single market. In China car import taxes for engines smaller than 3.0L is 60%. For exactly 3.0L its 66% and ones its over 3.0L the import taxes goes crazy. China is now supporting electrifying technology more than any other countries on earth. More electric taxis and buses are being built than ever before plus that more than 80% of solar panels sold on earth are being produced in China. I would say Porsche is really pushing Hybrid tech to cope with the Chinese government standard in the future and not really for the western market. Im so sure in near future all the combustion engines in China will be so expensive to run because of the taxes so all car makers just have to swap a hybrid system in the cars so be able to sell them in China
I would say this is almost the perfect family all-rounder.... The almost is the price of it, but perfect for wandering around town and school run, and amazing weekend speed warrior. Might i ask, what you didn't like on the previous hybrid one? Was it the regular hybrid or you tried both hybrid and E-hybrid?
Lovely car, but I need a bit more room in and back and 5 seats, so I’ll be looking at the Cayenne when I change my Range Rover Sport this year. This looks good inside and out. I think Porsche have really upped their game in recent years and now have a model to cover all needs. Great review as always 👍
Niche car indeed but very expensive l do think it looks stunning though and that 2-9 v6 will be the same engine that's in the Audi RS4/RS5 Another informative video Pete keep them rolling mate
Hi James, I think your correct the engine in this car is from the new RS4 /RS5 but I’m not 100% sure as I stated if you scroll to my name at the top. Regards Alan B
I've not experience the Ford/Lincoln touch buttons, but these ones work really well. I remember people saying that touch screen phones would never be more popular than a Blackberry a few years ago. Look how that turned out ;-)
Great vlog and great car. But come on PP, a bit rough changing down to 1st? That’s not fair. You’re obviously changing down too early. My PDK (Cayman) will do that only in Sport Plus Manual mode but I guess it is doing that to allow you to get on it ASAP. Keep up the good work. Gordon
But this has a petrol engine? You engage it when you want it by putting it into sport or sport plus. Otherwise hydrid mode manages when it is required.
Really amazing car and great video. Im atm considering selling my X5 and buy a Panamera 4 e-hybrid or 4S. Im personally a little skeptic towards hybrid and electric cars since ive heard they emit some kind of magnetic radiation which could be harmful for human bodies in long run and caner causing?? Is that true? should i go for the E-hybrid since its also cheaper with the same performance?
Appreciate that you do spend some time to reply your viewers. Ive driven the Panamera 4 and thought that it lacked a little in performance plus that they still use the old 3L V6 engine. Imma listen to you and do a test drive in the 4 E-hybrid!
Great video :) I love Porsche but always thought the Panamera was ugly. Not any more though, in fact I'd probably take one over a 911 now. I must be getting old as I'm putting practicality top of my list these days!
Odd isn't it. My neighbour has this top of the line Macan, and my God, that a fun car. You'll get more daily use from it than a 911. You better buy a Macan and a 944 on the side.
Hi and welcome to the channel. It’s my name. I’m called Peter but friends and family have called me Pedro since I was a kid. This then over time got shortened to Ped. Petrol Head...Petrol Ped 👍 Sadly I know it can mean something different your side of the pond 😥
I asked that very question when I collected the car. The answer was not any time soon. Apparently it would require a complete redesign of the electrical architecture of the car 😥
Petrol Ped i typed in a moment of madness, the rs4 is a lighter car which makes the spirited drives better. I went from the rs6 to the s4 and actually prefer taking the s4 out for a blast at the weekends up to glencoe the rs6 was fast but just to heavy on the twisties I can imagine the porsche would be not as fus as the rs4. I'm holding off I think your rite rs4 is the strong contender....in green .... and still be 40k cheaper although sitting about 70k basic spec 🤔
Great review again Peter.
Ive not commented before but I've had my Panamera for 6 months and love it.
To help everyone on fuel consumption. I've done 5200 miles. My journey to work is between 15 and 25 miles depending on site visits. I have a charge point at home and at the office and charge both ends. I get around 22 miles purely electric but my journey includes a short stint on the motorway. If it was all urban I would get more through regenerative braking. I've surprised myself and love it in electric but also play on the odd occasion in sport+.
The car shows a total mpg of 76.5 but that doesn't include the cost of electric used. I think there should be a way of entering this. Taking account of electric it's around 50 mpg. If I didn't play with it and just stayed in electric mpg would be crazy. Even on a recent long journey with 4 of us and luggage I still got 33mpg with no charge. For a car of this size I think the real world figures are phenomenal if like me you do around 40 to 50 miles per day.
I ticked just about every main option box but one thing no one mentions, If you buy a Panamera you really must tick the 7.2kw on board charger option. With the standard charger it takes over 3 hours to charge. With the 7.2kw it takes me about an hour and 40 minutes. If I hadn't ticked that box my mpg would be a lot worse as I wouldn't always have enough time to charge it.
Thanks for the comment David. I must say I was very taken by the eHybrid. The EV mode seems very usable and then when you out it into Sport+ is absolutely flew !
@@PetrolPed It is a great review but you don't even clean the car before doing this review
It was clean when I picked it up from Porsche but the roads were very dirty that day. By the time I got home it was filthy 😥 You barely have time in a day to film a review like this let alone wash the car 😜
Petrol Ped #Englandwheather😂😂👌🏻
I am buying a Panamera ST in a couple of weeks and found this video to be very informative and enjoyable to watch. Easily the best video on the ST I’ve found. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
You've convinced me. Had two Cayennes and one Panamera 4, and I always regretted selling the Panamera. Now I can have a Panamera and an electric car all-in-one. Love it !
Yep 👍
Thanks very much Pete for pointing me in the right direction. This was prior to me following you. It’s really great to see how your content and your approach even in 2018 was spot on. This is a car I’ve been interested in for a little while.
Living proof that content lives forever. Thank you petrol ped swapped my amg gt 63s for turbos s ehybrid, a few weeks ago, influenced by your views. Most brilliant car I’ve ever owned, surely the best 4 door gt car you can drive everywhere, especially rubbish uk broads.
what do you do for a living?
@@ryanhall9347 why? It’s not related to cars, so no relevance.
@@mygoogle1482 just curious
@@ryanhall9347 I’m semi retired company director / head hunter & do tech investing, mainly badly. Very dull but cars make up for it. & you?
Hi Petrol Ped!
I never comment on YT videos, but this one... I watch car videos in my spare time as i am a true car lover, but a video so enthusiastic, filled with great car angles and exterior exhaust sound, thorough explanations of the driving sensation and your honest oppinion...you really do a GREAT JOB! Especially for someone who is a potential buyer.
Keep up the good job and you have my subscription.
Wow, thanks for such a lovely comment. I’m glad you enjoyed my review and thanks for the sub. Welcome to the channel. It’s great to have you onboard and best of luck with the potential purchase 👍
Great review Peter. Impressed by the 0-60 for such a heavy car.
So was I 😳
I actually love hybrids, and you're highlighting how accomplished this car is has really got me thinking
You should try a get to drive one of these Roger. They a awesome 👌
A tad late getting to watch this one Peter, but definitely worth the wait. Love the styling, interior is beautiful, rear passenger space is often lacking in so many “high end” vehicles but certainly not in this one, a very special place to be. Instrumentation’s is visually awesome & crisp & clear on the eye. I’m rambling because I love it. The numbers (hp & torque), spot on. The exhaust note = music to the ears. A car that becomes an extension of the driver.
£120,000 ? If I could afford it, I wouldn’t hesitate.
Really, really enjoyed this review & I’m thinking you did to, every second of it.
Thanks for brightening my day ( been a bit of a crappy one, I’ll be glad when the man with the blade’s sorted me out !!).
See you down the road mate.
Cheers,
Geof
Hi Geof. I was a fun car that's for sure. One of those you don't want to give back ! I was lucky to get it for a whole day and have the help of my friend and neighbour with some of the filming. Shame I can't do that with every review ! Hope you get it all sorted at your end soon and glad I helped brighten your day.
Till the next vid
Your mate Ped
Your best review yet by far mate.
Couldn't fault it.
Top work
Looking forward to seeing you 28th
Thanks Eddie. I chuffed with the result. It was a full day of filming and I had help from my friend Mike doing the driveby shots :-)
This car definitely has gotten better looking with each redesign. Wow does it sound good! Great video sir Pete
This is one of my favourite cars I have reviewed so far 👍
Never driven a Porsche, I have always loved a shapely bonnet looking out from inside, the humps both sides, always loved the old Mini for that. They oooze character. Nice review Peter. Well done as always. The emblem embossed into the seats is cool.
It's an option I believe ;-)
Man.... your reviews are first class!!! Greetings from Melbourne, Aust.
Thanks Kumar, glad you enjoyed it and hello Melbourne :-)
Absolutely love this car
Mate...it was EPIC !
Great review, Pete. Your enthusiasm shone through. Very impressed with those rear seats.....
They looked and felt awesome. Glad you enjoyed it Ian 👍
Great review Mr Ped. Lovely car and well presented. So glad you are doing you tube now, keeping it real.
Always try and keep it real Mr Ray :-)
I'm thinking of buying a Panamera this week and this video has been very informative and has helped me to decide
Great cars 👍
Brilliant video again mate, using the external audio has really improved things and given more flexibility.
Cheers Buddy. Having someone help with the filming made a huge difference :-)
Having another person when filming outside really does help, allows you to worry only about the presenting part and less messing around with the technology side of it. I am guessing you got the GoPro session working as the exterior shots look improved
Very well done on this video. Absolutely love the look of this car, would be nice as a daily driver with e-hybrid.
I drive some nice cars on Petrol Ped but this is one that stands out for me :-)
Very good tester,no nonsense revue,i am looking to buy one so found the test very imformative.
Wow, thanks for the feedback. Good luck with search. Such a brilliant car 👌
Yeap.....This is the one. Goodbye to my BMW Active Hybrid 5.....
Love love love how it flares to life with the ignition.
Like a space ship !
Defo a lot going on. Puts me in mind of an expensive version of the activity centres we had as kids lol.
Test drove this model today in Toronto, Canada. Thanks for the review, which helps me understand a lot more.
Super review mate..Great looking car and pretty practical to boot!
Thanks Paul. Four up, boot full of luggage and still ballistically fast 😂
What a great intro to this particular Porsche crumpet! Ooofff!
I know, right?
My 2019 will be built the 2nd week of Jan with a mid march delivery. This video was helpful as my Cayman S doesn't have all the bells and whistles I ordered on the new Sport Tourismo. I ordered one sight unseen and can't wait Now.. Nice to hear what the engine sounds like..
Oh wow, you lucky thing !
You won't be disappointed :-)
Great informative review Peter. This version is much better looking than the first gen. The interior, especially the seats look lovely.
I rather fell for it 😜
Wonderful rooted review. At 8:00 ?? You very nicely describe how our kids feel in the back seats of our Macan. They simply love the full leather finish and the seat heating and the vents stuff and the sun screen if needed ... and the panoramic roof - it's hard to describe that their approval for the back seat design makes the parents in the front happy too. Porsche does a lot of subtle stuff very well which petrol heads often fail to acknowledge. Again, nice review - thanks for producing and sharing with all of us. (yo! also our PDK is jerky sometimes at low speeds, you are the first reviewer on YT pointing this out - thumbs up.) So you ask if we or I enjoyed your video? Sure thing I did!
Thanks for the comment. I would love to sit in the back of the Macan too...love those things !!
Glad you are enjoying my vids too :-)
Great vid, these things are depreciating nicely...
Thankfully. It's the only way I can afford one
yes, hoping it falls below £50k soon🤞🤞
Lovely to see the base hybrid reviewed rather than the turbo… still not sure which one to get though.
Really liked the use of external car camera angles. Nice one!
That's thanks to my neighbour for coming out to help :-)
Excellent review. Could really tell you were enjoying it. Thanks
I was indeed. Didn’t want to give it back 😥
Absolutely fantastic video and review! I’m very impressed.
Cheers mate, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Such a great car :-)
It’s great to see the Panamera starting to look a bit meaner - I agree great rear end.
Rear of the year !
Best review of this car yet
Wow...thanks very much. Glad you enjoyed it :-)
“...down a cog, into second” - Oh, what a sweet sound.
Oh yes 👍
Yeah top video again Ped, love watching your channel. Keep it up!
Cheers Buddy. You’ve still got one of the best channel names out there 👍
Petrol Ped I can't even remember how I came up with it haha. Got my Giulia Quadrifoglio now as well. Oh my god it's perfect 😊
Great cars aren’t they 👍
Great review. You’re very natural behind the camera. Keep it up. Ask Porsche for a go in the Turbo e-hybrid Panamera
Don’t you worry mate. I will 👍
Thanks for the positive feedback. Much appreciated.
Thanks for the great review
My pleasure 👍
Thanks mate helped me rite out good solid content and a pleasure to watch 🤙🏻
My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it :-)
I can only imagine what the turbo s hybrid is like 🤙🏻
Great test and awesome machine!
Cheers Robin 😂
if only they manage to drop 500kg in the future this would be the best car ever. now its very close but im sure they will improve the weight someday.
Hi Peter. Thanks for the video. I really liked it. Porsche is by far my favorite car brand, so I’m happy to see this review. I still have the dream to have a Macan (you tested it also) as my family car. Cheers.
I’d love a Macan too 👌
I have subcribed to you simply because I think we are so much alike.. the Porsche, especially the Ehybrid is my all time favourite,coupled with the Audi RS4. If u could review a vw Amarok you have done a trifecta for me.
I got my Audi a few years ago, b9 black edition, blue as well similar to your S4. And can't stop raving abt it. Keep doing the brilliant job mate.
Thanks for the Sub and welcome to the channel 👍
Great video as usual .Thank you.
Cheers Colin 👍
What a great review Pete very professional feel about it👍
Cheers Ian. It’s all about how long I have the car for. Porsche were kind enough to give me the car for a day and I drafted in some help from a friend 😜
Petrol Ped yes flyby camera shots and camera car shots help the variety of the film. 👍 how's the drone flying?
Always thought the sedan version was better looking but now I just can't stop looking at the Turismo... Think as we get older wagons just get more appealing.
I agree 👍
Still can't get over how stunning this car looks. Would much rather have the Sport Turismo over the Cayenne, Macan and normal Panamera. Such a good looking beast and well it's a Porsche, great review once again. Like the shots and the overall style and structure. Definitely getting the reviews down to a tee. Nice stuff!
Thanks Finlay. I was a bit worried it was too long, but I left a lot of footage out !
Finlay Are you kidding me. This car looks like it fell out of the back end of a cow with a splat! To each his own.
Dreamcar, some day i’ll own it.
Me too 👍
Fantastic review Ped. I'd like one of these as the daily.
It would make a great daily...I want one too !
Anyone know how much is warranty to get for used one?
Hybrid battery is like 20k :) and can you take warranty on battery?
Great review. I personally need more physical buttons on the center console . However, very nice car and great comprehensive review. New subscriber and car enthusiast who owns a 2011, Audi A4. Thanks
Hi Yves, great to have you subbed and welcome to the channel. All Audi drivers are most welcome. I drive an S4 👍👌
Wow! Fantastic review as always and enjoyed all the detail. I really love the new Panamera style and this one is totally stunning and looks amazing in black! It definitely seems like a great combination with the hybrid system and I think makes for an excellent all rounder! Would love to get behind the wheel of one!
Mi Mate. Indeed a fab car but not sure it's 40 grand better than the RS4 I just reviewed !
BTW first time here,very nice well made vid,Ill subscribe.
That’s great to hear John. Welcome to the channel. Great to have you on board 👍
Great video covering the driving experience but very few answers for those considering buying one. Testers of hybrids talk like driving on electric is free yet it still has a per mile cost of electricity, what is it? In hybrid mode I presume (because you didn't say) that it charges during braking? What would the long term MPG be driven in this mode and never pluged in? Questions I imagine lots of people want answers to that are never covered by road testers, do another road test covering these areas please.
Difficult to please everyone in a 20 min review 😪
Very detailed review - thanks!
My pleasure Terry :-)
great in-depth review👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks 🙏🏻
It didn’t needed much convincing after watching this super review for the 1st time “ well done mate “ thumbs up 👍. Hilux & clk have to go . This is the one 4 me .
Awesome review
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it :-)
Great review. Thank You
My pleasure 👍
Great video. Loved the roadside features. Do the rear entertainment screens tuck away a little when not used? They seemed to be quite a way forwards from the back of the front seats and slightly intrusive. Again, great video! Amazing car.
Those drive by shots are thanks to my friend and neighbour Mike. I wish I could do them with every review. Those screen don't tuck away. I agree, they do stick out quite a bit !
My bad...missed that :-(
Absolutely love it! Not sure I’d go for the hybrid system though, would stick to a 4s or, ideally, the turbo.
Either way you’ll have a great car. I chose this to review as I thought it might generate more debate...it worked 😂
Would love to see your review of new Acura /Honda NSX
I'd love to review the NSX. Just need to get access to one ;-)
HI PP great video very informative and professional, I have just ordered almost this exact car. Will post a vid myself when it comes and put some longer usage term notes on the car to video as we will be driving it to Greece in August. Anyway thanks for the film - keep them coming.
Oh lucky you, I really didn't want to give this one back ! I look forward to seeing your vids.
Nice presentation from inside out. I’m in love with this car e-hybrid system, like then918. Can you tell me how is the brake feel, because some journalist reported that they were hard to modulate at lower speed because of the regenerative system.
A little grabby at times but on the whole very good :-)
Very nice. Got to say it looks good as well, used ti think that may be the designers had fallen over and banged their heads but its certainly growing on me. Of course with the price being what it is, its another one to put on the list for the lottery win.
I think it looks stunning. I so wish I could afford one. It will be interesting to see how it stacks up against the RS4 😜
Hi Peter, The engine in this car is from the new Audi RS4 this why the BHP & TORQUE is more or less the same give or take this is a great car no doubt it it’s typical Porsche well built very well designed and goes like stink. I’m sure your well aware Audi share many engines as they are so good I do like this car and I can tell you just love this car and to be honest I can’t blame you. Well Peter as ever great video Best wishes Alan B. P.S I hope I’m correct about the engine but I’m 99.9% sure or this will be egg on my face Big time.
I have the new RS4 next week so might chat about this in that video. Great comment 👍
Hi Mike I think we have had a previous conversation or I could be wrong in being Peter took your Vauxhall VXR for a spin and your a farmer. The question you asked me I have no idea but I assume that Audi, Porsche, VW, Lamborghini and Seat do share some parts bins so yes the could be a link with the 4 wheel drive system but I have not done my homework on this yet but I’m sure Peter could answer that one for you. Best wishes Alan B
Great video. Would be great to see you in the 991.2 GT3! Do you remember which road you took when filming the shot at 18:00?
It’s the A285 at the bottom of Duncton Hill 👍
I’d love to drive the GT3 as well !
Thank you so much for the reply and fingers crossed, Porsche will offer you the GT3! Manual or PDK, they're both exceptional transmissions in different ways!
love your uploads PD...love cars all my life its uncanny how metal glass rubber on there own don't mean any thing but put all together now that a different story ! you tube such a good medium to watch car content .......
born in England born and breed moved back to Lahore Pakistan .try to watch content from the STATES ! motor trend etc but there nothing like good old British guy reviewing cars properly .......... well done keep on giving us great content.
Cheers Manawar. I should have done a 4th gear pull away in this...it wouldn't have gad a problem doing it :-)
forgot the scobee was turbocharged my bad !
Amazing car and review. Thank you for sitting in the rear and commenting. can you tell me your height so I can gauge the rear seat room? Much appreciated.
Hi Mark. I’m 6’3” with a 34” inside leg 😜 Glad you enjoyed the review. Such an awesome car 👍
Awesome is right. if you are 6'3" and enjoyed the back seat and didn't look cramped in the video, that is a great rear seat. I agree, as a plug-in owner and knowing how great it is to be in electric for short trips and hybrid around town (I usually just shut it off on the freeway/highways), this would be the ideal luxe hybrid. Thanks for the response. Given how you wring it out whilst driving for reviews, I can see how you stayed in the 20's MPG. However, I would bet if you are a 30 or so miles a day, I would suspect 40-50 MPG U.S. cycle easy, even at that weight. Crazy price, agreed, but exclusivity is what you pay for indeed.
Hi, great review as always and very helpful indeed!
Just a quick question, my next car decision tore between BMW M760 Li and Porsche Panamera Sport Turismo? (Currently driving BMW 740Ld Xdrive for just little over two years).
Young family with kid 4.5 & 1.5 Years Old. Thinking of change a new car before next summer?
Lastly, do you know there’ll a ‘executive (long-wheel base)’ model Porsche will produce for Sport Tirismo in the near future?
Thanks
Hi there Vincent. I've not driven the M760, although it does look amazing. Having just looked at the Porsche configurator it doesn't look like there is currently an Executive version of the Sport Turismo and I don't know if there a plans for one.
This is the review I’ve been looking for! Top man, comprehensive and telling me what I need to know. The price soon creeps up, and I wonder what will happen with the Taycan reportedly being around the £80k mark? Should I wait or pull the trigger? Currently driving an SQ7, any thoughts?
Firstly, SQ7...bloody brilliant car you lucky thing :-)
This is a superb car but yes they can get pretty pricey once you start ticking boxes on the configurator. I honestly don't know much about the expected price of the Taycan. I would imagine it will be the same but I am also pretty sure it is going to be an awesome car !
Hi PP. A great video about a damn fine car. I'm a big Porsche fan but, like you, I'm still not sure about hybrid cars and their worth. I know that ALL car manufacturers make ridiculous claims about the mpg's of hybrid cars, but I still don't really see the point of them and in real life, as you found out, the mpg is going to be pretty much the same as a purely petrol engined car.
Hybrids always cost a lot more than standard cars, weigh a lot more due to the electrics, however, you do get that power boost when the electric and petrol engines are playing nicely together.
I went onto Porsche's website to have a peruse at some of the specifications of these "standard" Turismo's (Can any Porsche be really classed as standard?).
Weight
E-Hybrid - 2,265kg
Sport 4 - 1,955kg
Performance (0-60mph)
EH - 4.6secs
S4 - 5.5secs
Cost
EH - £83.3k
S4 - £74.6k
So what does that all mean to me?
The S4 will save you about £9,000 if both bought as "bog-standard".
It will be more nimble on the road than the EH as it's not having to carry an extra 310kg (683lbs! That's like having 3 very fat UK passengers in the car, 24/7!! Or 3 normal passengers from the USA!! (Only joking yanks! Honest...)).
OK! So the EH will do the 0-60 faster. But how many times will anyone be doing that on British roads? Errr... If I had either car, I'd probably be doing it every time I got into it, if truth be told!!
So if I got the S4, which is the one I would pick anyway, I'd save myself a few thousand miles worth of petrol, I'd be sharper on the twisty roads and without all the extra weight from the electronics and I'd be more reliable too because there aren't the extra electronics to go wrong.
But there is a caveat to this. If I had a "money doesn't mean anything" buying power, then I'd be aiming for the Turbo versions. Just because I could. :-)
TTFN.
Mike Jackson - Nice one Mike. I do take your point about wear and tear and turbo cooldown. By the way, I don't think 240lbs (Just over 17stones in the UK.) is overweight. I'm 6'1 3/4" (The 3/4 is very important!!) and last weighed in at about 231lbs and I definitely do not look overweight. Or so I keep telling myself. I just like to blame poor quality full-length mirrors for any, slight, "abnormality"!.
Oh! I wasn't promoting any "cost per mile" for either of the Porsche's. To be honest, if you own a £70+grand car, money doesn't really come into the equation. Even though I said I'd have an extra £9k for petrol which I would do. Weight, on the other hand, IS important. But then if I was going to be picky about weight, then the Panamera wouldn't be my choice. I'd go for one of the 911's. The 911Targa 4 GTS is, in my opinion, simply stunning.
And before anyone says anything, I know the 911 Targa 4 GTS isn't a lightweight 911 and if I was going for total lightness, then the 718 Cayman and Boxters would be better. But I like the security and drivability of a 4 wheel drive car.
Love the research :-)
Love this !
Mike Jackson - Err.... Not sure where you're going with this comment, and I probably don't want too either :-\
Im currently looking to buy the Panamera and was wondering the same stuff u mentioned. However in my area the 4 doesn't come standard with Adaptive Air Suspension. It comes with the steel suspensions. The 4 also comes with the old 3L single twin-scroll turbo charged V6 engine. So if you do want the newest 2.9L engine the 4 E-hybrid is gonna be the cheapest option. Bare in mind that the 2.9L was specifically designed for the Chinese market since its Porsches biggest single market. In China car import taxes for engines smaller than 3.0L is 60%. For exactly 3.0L its 66% and ones its over 3.0L the import taxes goes crazy. China is now supporting electrifying technology more than any other countries on earth. More electric taxis and buses are being built than ever before plus that more than 80% of solar panels sold on earth are being produced in China. I would say Porsche is really pushing Hybrid tech to cope with the Chinese government standard in the future and not really for the western market. Im so sure in near future all the combustion engines in China will be so expensive to run because of the taxes so all car makers just have to swap a hybrid system in the cars so be able to sell them in China
So, am I right in thinking then, that when the engine is running it doesn't charge up the batteries? Only charged up via the supplied cable?
No. There is a mode where the engine will charge the battery 👍
Ever thought about testing out the Skoda range. Their cars are really coming on now.
I’d love to do something with Skoda 👍 Watch this space 😜
I don't get how Porsche turned a pig (1st gen) Panamera and turned it j to an absolute gem. Looks so amazing. I want it. NOW!
Was actually good to see a review of a car where the person isn’t driving like a lunatic.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Really Enjoyed this video mate! Really great review of a great car. Which one do you prefer between the normal panamera and this one?
They both drive similar but I'd have the Sport Turismo over the standard car. It's more practical and for me much better looking :-)
I would say this is almost the perfect family all-rounder.... The almost is the price of it, but perfect for wandering around town and school run, and amazing weekend speed warrior. Might i ask, what you didn't like on the previous hybrid one? Was it the regular hybrid or you tried both hybrid and E-hybrid?
I found them hard to keep in EV mode. Just the slightest acceleration caused the ICU to kick in. The is not the case with this car.
Lovely car, but I need a bit more room in and back and 5 seats, so I’ll be looking at the Cayenne when I change my Range Rover Sport this year.
This looks good inside and out. I think Porsche have really upped their game in recent years and now have a model to cover all needs. Great review as always 👍
Have a drive of the V8 Diesel Cayenne. It’s absolutely superb 👌
Another great review. The Panamera now begs a question. Go with one of them or perhaps an RS7. What are your thoughts?
I'd have an RS4 and keep the change ;-)
Good point. The RS4 looks like a ripper. However if I’m ever seriously considering those cars I won’t be worried about change
Niche car indeed but very expensive l do think it looks stunning though and that 2-9 v6 will be the same engine that's in the Audi RS4/RS5
Another informative video Pete keep them rolling mate
Cheers James. I have the RS4 in a couple of weeks so can feel how it is without the Electric part 👍
Hi James, I think your correct the engine in this car is from the new RS4 /RS5 but I’m not 100% sure as I stated if you scroll to my name at the top. Regards Alan B
How did you find the Porsche electronics, say compared to Mercedes' cabins?
I found the touch screen tech in the Panamera easy to use. Some features might be a bit fiddly when driving.
I love this car; however, I thought automakers learned that most people do not like touch buttons. Ford/Lincoln tried it, and went back to buttons.
I've not experience the Ford/Lincoln touch buttons, but these ones work really well. I remember people saying that touch screen phones would never be more popular than a Blackberry a few years ago. Look how that turned out ;-)
Great vlog and great car.
But come on PP, a bit rough changing down to 1st? That’s not fair. You’re obviously changing down too early.
My PDK (Cayman) will do that only in Sport Plus Manual mode but I guess it is doing that to allow you to get on it ASAP.
Keep up the good work. Gordon
I had to work hard to find something I didn’t like 😜
Thanks can you clarify: Porsche says 100 MPG you say 20MPG?
It depends on your journey profile and how you drive ! I think you will struggle to get anywhere near 100mpg 🤔
Nice use of the word haptic!!! 👍
Had to get that in somewhere !!!
The car looks ok but I must admit I am no hybrid fan,love my petrol engines.Very nice interior mate 🍺
Me too but this might change your mind ;-)
Petrol Ped Going to the dark side 😂
But this has a petrol engine? You engage it when you want it by putting it into sport or sport plus. Otherwise hydrid mode manages when it is required.
Really amazing car and great video. Im atm considering selling my X5 and buy a Panamera 4 e-hybrid or 4S. Im personally a little skeptic towards hybrid and electric cars since ive heard they emit some kind of magnetic radiation which could be harmful for human bodies in long run and caner causing?? Is that true? should i go for the E-hybrid since its also cheaper with the same performance?
Hi David. Never heard of 'magnetic radiation' before ! I would certainly go and have a drive of the hybrid. They are mightily impressive :-)
Appreciate that you do spend some time to reply your viewers. Ive driven the Panamera 4 and thought that it lacked a little in performance plus that they still use the old 3L V6 engine. Imma listen to you and do a test drive in the 4 E-hybrid!
Great video :) I love Porsche but always thought the Panamera was ugly. Not any more though, in fact I'd probably take one over a 911 now. I must be getting old as I'm putting practicality top of my list these days!
Join the club Jon !!
Odd isn't it. My neighbour has this top of the line Macan, and my God, that a fun car. You'll get more daily use from it than a 911. You better buy a Macan and a 944 on the side.
Like your videos. Subscribed from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA.
Can I ask what Ped stands for? If I missed it I’m sorry.
Hi and welcome to the channel. It’s my name. I’m called Peter but friends and family have called me Pedro since I was a kid. This then over time got shortened to Ped. Petrol Head...Petrol Ped 👍
Sadly I know it can mean something different your side of the pond 😥
Love this fantastic lots of rear leg room the back seats look as if they should be in the front 👍👍🏁🏁
I wish I’d thought of describing them like that in the film 🤬
Where is this road?
Between Petworth and Chichester 👍
Petrol Ped thank you mate !
Wow what a weapon I’m a big RS6 fan boy but this is a good rival I reckon
It is. I think the RS6 would win on overall space, but this will run it close in all other areas :-)
Evening pal. Lovely rear, like a beefed up A6.
Do you think the Macan will get this interior any time soon?
I asked that very question when I collected the car. The answer was not any time soon. Apparently it would require a complete redesign of the electrical architecture of the car 😥
Thank you for this review you have helped me choose my new car. 2 in a row now. Are you getting one too 😀
I'd love one, but I have the new RS4 in a couple of weeks time and think that will be the one for me !
Petrol Ped i typed in a moment of madness, the rs4 is a lighter car which makes the spirited drives better. I went from the rs6 to the s4 and actually prefer taking the s4 out for a blast at the weekends up to glencoe the rs6 was fast but just to heavy on the twisties I can imagine the porsche would be not as fus as the rs4. I'm holding off I think your rite rs4 is the strong contender....in green .... and still be 40k cheaper although sitting about 70k basic spec 🤔
Great stuff. Your accent... from nigeria?
English 😉
Ok, but why would you change down to 1st unless you're standing still :D
Don't know how to feel about the whole rear spoiler thing. I kinda like the older version.