The Final Frontier of Botting has been Settled.
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@SirPugger this code is invalid i tried it multiple times
I heard you wanted to talk about Tortoise Shells.
@SirPugger my account was just banned recently for real world trading. It's a 20 year old account, I've been playing since the 1st runescape account. I recently was a drop part and traded someone and got get hit with a permanent ban for real world trading. I recently went through a divorce where literally everything was taken from me, my 3 kids my house my car....... everything. I was so depressed I was literally on the edge until I saw that you could play runescape on mobile. Playing literally brought happiness back into my life. I even had my kids make accounts so I can spend more time again. I dont..... I can't disappoint them again with them knowing I lost my account forever. I literally wouldn't be able to live with myself. I always watch your videos and know that you know people that can possibly help me. I promise I will never do anything to even put my account in risk of getting banned ever again if it were unbanned. My kids keep calling me but I just can't tell them what happened.....
. They can take everything off of the account and roll back the stats all they want I just my want my account back...... ending this account... would literally be ending me. It means everything to me right now. Please I beg your help.......... I'd forever be in debt to you if you could help me...... I pray this message get to you.
My RSN is: Geep702
its time you gave up on runescape its a zombie game
Sir Pugger: "Don't ever try to do this or you might trade away your t-bow"
Me with a 40m total bank: "Got it! they almost got me."
I literally found the bot farm with the top 18 corporal beast kills. Yes. they are all one farm. look up all their stats, under 70 in all stats except combat, and 50k+ corp kills. the same farm is all top 20 spots.
I remember when i thought green dragon bots were unthinkable
Genuine question: why?
the good old days of gold farmers at wildy gdragons
I remeber back in the day you could skull trick the green drag bots for the whip, feels good man
@@Mrcheesebumbleseriously, wtf? How would that be impossible it’s so insanely basic you could accomplish it with a fucking color bot 😂
@scoddiboi /shrug
I'm genuinely curious what they thought the challenge there was. It might not be an interesting answer but asking the question took almost no effort so... /shrug.
Let's be nice and see if they want to answer
-> Botters make money selling gold
-> Re sellers make money buying botters gold for cheaper
-> Programmers make money creating bots
-> Jagex makes money from bots memberships
-> Sir pugger makes money exposing bots
Its an endless rabbit hole, but in the end everyone just makes money.
They make money off of the product --- the player base, the viewers, the gold buyers, etc. I won't clump them all together, but basically saying where there is money made, there is money being spent/lost/missed out on.
Except the players
@@LadiesandGentlemen660your taxes (ge) are paying for bots’ ability to be profitable and not crash the market
Yeah, but if the players didn't buy gold, the gold sellers would stop botting.
At the cost of ruining every online game
Not everything is about money.
Who remembers the simple days where you mostly saw the blue dragon bots in full granite and a dragon med helm?
If anybody remembers the dungeoneering bot , you’d know any bot is possible
@@user-vd5fq6tf2blike 10-12 years I think. I remember seeing it in 2012
IDung pro was truly a marvel of its time especially for RSBuddy. I find it insane that I’ve never seen a bot of that caliber again even nearly 13 years later.
Haha that was my first thought as well! I remember before EOC there was an amazing dungeoneering bot so this shouldn't be a huge surprise.
@@TriWinning man i remember the good old days just letting it run for 3 straight up days and 300k tokens or whtaver it was LUL
haha i remember idungeon pro. it was one of Kikos finest works.@@TriWinning
0:28 "When you get to the door, stop. SirPugger, you can stop now. SirPugger, you're clipping into the theatre, you can stop now!".
Imagine the zulrah teleport drop was just a set-up by the guy who tipped you off.
It's happened before
Pretty sure it was.
could also be some bot writer who has a bug in their code, where he tries to go to zulrah but is dropping it instead for some reason
@@Coach-Solar_Hound
8 teleports? Seems pretty specific for just trying to tele there
@@-ZH maybe the line is supposed to bank and grab 8 and teleport but it's dropping and repeating the bank for some reason.
The clip at 2:47 - 2:50 - 1 tick specing from a trident with no spec bar like that is just not possible without cheating/botting btw. And that's discounting the fact that they all 3 did it in sync and switched into the rest of their melee gear at the same time too.
it's possible by the way but yeah you wouldnt see people in rag gear doing it in sync and hitting it every time.
@@canyounotsee theres no spec bar on tridents
@@BULD0SIS obviously bro. just internet search "1 tick no spec bar osrs" and you'll get a zillion videos.
it is doable like panic 07 does, but he has to utilise being on like 200 ping for it to work, the ping delay allows him to 1 tick spec from weps without spec bar because of the delay, other than that it's cheat clients that show spec bar on weapons without one@@BULD0SIS
@@BULD0SISit's "technically" still possible to do, but requires very unusual setups beforehand, and is still difficult to pull off. Impossible in the practical sense.
The most known method is to view the special attack bar beforehand while holding a weapon with a special attack, then going to your weapon without a spec bar. You can then 1 tick a special if you swap weapons, change tabs to attack styles, click the bar in the few frames before the client correctly hides it, and click the target.
Even showing that last scam was not a great idea, some people really think they can beat that lol
I have made lots of money on these dumb trade scammers,but also risked losing my items so many times lol
I'm gonna go ahead and assume jagex doesn't know that last trade scam was a bot. Maybe it was being run by a player doing the typing and manually trading, but the swap during the trades is being done by an ahk script or a bot of some manner.
I'd probably agree yeah
More accurate to call that a macro. It's set up to perform multiple precise clicks when the actual person presses a single button. It's like diet botting :D
Literally just commented this myself lol. Ive played around with those guys plenty. I know people that have lost alot to those guys. Btw pugger did you see this guy thats posting videos of him making a nex bot lately?
wouldnt be surprised if the guy in the last clip was in on the scam trying to bait people into copying him. Best practice is always to ignore scammers and move on
lmao that scam tactic existed back since ancient times
He is, pugger is dumb to promote this or paid off
people are stupid and will follows others.. you see someone " doubling " money .. they double there alt accounts money, make it seem all legit .. how many other players then jump in.. trying to get there money doubled?? you double a couple of peoples money.. lose a few mill doing so .. then someone trades you 50m or something .. bang easy money .. the reason these scams still exist is because people still fall for them.
Highly doubt that. I have known multiple runescape players that regulary scam the scammers in these trades. But as he said the scammers are doing it for a reason, they make profit. There are enough people accidentally doing a bad trade while trying to profit off the scammer for it be worth it. So no matter how confident you are in your reading and double check skills dont do it lol.
Man, bots are crazy now... I remember tricking flax bots into getting killed nearly 20 years ago and now these damn things can do game content I can't even handle...
I fell for the last scam several months ago. I was up 30m and what I thought was 1.2b for a tbow (This was when tbows were 900m), turned out to be 1.2m. After realising what I had done, I called my self braindead. To add salt to injury, I was then muted for calling myself braindead...
Ever since I fell for that scam, I have turned my trade options to private...
If I recall back in the day, even Dungeoneering was being botter within like a year or two. Worth doing a video in retrospective revisiting the tech bots of the past. Some are crazy even in todqys standards.
All the good bots were free back then and the ones you paid for were insane. Osrs scripters really capitalized this time around. A lot of the scripts paid included were shit.
Rumor has it that bots now change names frequently. That why some of the bots might not be showing up on the high scores.
Pretty sure pugsy adds them and adds notes to the names. He mentioned double name changes so I'm assuming that's what he would do
Changing your account's name does not remove any progress on the highschore. Only changes the name there.
At some point, writing a bot to solve a certain aspect of the game becomes more impressive than just doing it. Like honestly. Thisbot shows that this person has a deep understanding off both programming and how the game works to the point he can perfectly syncronize every bot to do optiomal movements no matter the scenarios.
I feel like in the next 2-5 years, AI is going to get to the point where bots can act 100% humanlike and be absolutely undetectable. They won’t just be “scripts” but rather artificial players that can chat, hold a conversation, do any task in the game, and doesn’t follow predictable patterns at all.
The money incentive with being able to RWT means there’s a large incentive to create an AI that can do this. It’s not a matter of “if” but “when” at this point.
Already could be done theoretically. Add randomness to certain tiles, and add an ai overlay which can type. Only issue will be actions while typing but someone would have to be watching.
But keep in mind that bots need to make money or else there is no point in their existence. They need to make back their membership and the costs of running their code. They cant act too much like a player or they become unprofitable
@@PriZ0nM1ke They would easily be able to do that just imitating a hard-grinding real player. Everyone plays games in different ways. Some people enjoy grinding a lot. And if that account can hold a conversation smoothly and do anything a human would do to prove it’s human, how can you justify banning it?
Two day ban? Ban for life. That type of botting is totally unacceptable.
Not only a bad for life, IP ban. Ban every account that has ever logged in from that accounts IP.
I would argue all botting is unacceptable
I came across one of the bandos+torva helm bots in Cox a couple of days ago lol
You should investigate all the barrows bots. There has been a lot lately. Over 2k kc+ each some worlds have 4-5 bots active at a time
Barrows bots are old
There's an army of soul wars bots in w377 dressed with Sara swords and dragon chain body, all names are almost identical
I love the casual right click @1:13 that exposes SmallTittes
Lots of bots cutting yew logs near the grand exchange a lot of them are level 18 and are holding air staffs
Botting personally ruined OSRS for me. As a new player confused about what to do of course i look up a way to make money. The kicker? The best one is botted to death so that real player profit is not happening due to low volume of nails, and the grind to getting any sort of actual money is so long i couldnt take it anymore and gave up on the game, but not before buying gold off of a site and realizing how people actually play. I always see people grinding something but almost none of them talk so I think that most of them are botted as well and that next to no-one but the very dedicated small group of superfans actually play how the game is intended. The slow grind of OSRS incentivizes IRL Trading for gold and botting and always will and that takes the fun out for me, im all willing to grind a game if all the players around me were forced to play the same but with how easy getting 100M from a site was for me it seems like a better system is never coming. Seemed like a fun thing to put time into but the anti cheat is non existing and the cheating only seems to get worse and worse. No matter how many botter videos you do the endless stream of them will never stop unless the anti cheat is somehow upgraded. (also to those who say buying gold will get you banned, It will not. My account has been alive and running for the better part of a year with no issue after purchase Jagex simply doesn't care about smaller transactions at all only game breaking multiple billion gold trades)
Just today I was outside my house portal, and a massive group of guys in this exact gear all portaled on top of me before going into their house, at the EXACT same time. There was no way that was a coincidence, I knew they had to be bots, but I would never of thought it'd be for ToB
Could also be corp bots. Very common
definitely corp bots. There are wayyy more corp bots than tob bots, literally hundreds of accounts at least with thousands of KC, all in void
Thats probably corp bots
Thats probably corp bots
Thats probably corp bots
I think i've found a huge and unique bot farm that is running in half of the worlds in a unique location. Remember Salarin the twisted? He drops a sinister key (around 30K) with a 1/12 chance. Salarin takes less then 10 seconds to kill and with a bot in half of the worlds i'm guessing the farm makes arround 30M per hour, maybe more depending on how much bots are active. They all wear the same gear, (Full mystic with a berserker helm) have the same stats and have a similar username. Be sure to check it out!
Last night I sat in the GE and watched hundreds of rev bots over the course of an hour. Was pretty sad.
The bot dropping the Zulrah teleports was likely a zulrah killing bot having an issue regearing and dropping whats in it's inventory and starting to attempt to regear again and repeating.
100% what happened. bot script cleary broke and it usually carried 7 teleports.
1:25 username checks out
some weird bot activity at the amethyst mines on the pvp worlds. been there a couple days around 44 combat but 114 mining
Not to mention, the trade one with tbow/shadows your potentially flagging your own account as a real world trader and thus putting your account at risk of a ban, these types of players who scam are most likely going to real world trade the money away...
Exactly these guys have been doing this for ages,they use clients/ahk to modify the trades fast,ofcouse they rwt all the profit cuz they always on new accs every week or so
Tbh tob is a very methodically timed raid. A lot of movement is in sync, but not nearly as in sync as the voiders. Crazy fond
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I remember when my account got hacked and turned into a Zulra bot hahah, lost all my stuff but at least they got me 15 magic levels. Perma banned ofc with no appeal. Appealed it and got unbanned which was cool
This is such a great runelite plugin, thanks for the fantastic review!
I bet the Tele bot had a broken script, was supposed to be teleporting to zulra but kept dropping them and resupplying.
It's a bit late but generally speaking you won't get into tob teams without base 90 combats, rig+augery assembler and elite void as a bare minimum when you're not a known person going into tob, anything less than that and you are more than likely being either boosted or you're playing with friends who know you're good at tob. A random team will almost never take people in less than that for their first 0-20kc and depending on whats missing even with high kc.
the trade dudes also do the trades to see if u got fast trade on or not :D
so if u got the delay on they usually just walk off or switch worlds.
I don't support people profiteering from bots, but as a pure engineering exercise it's a pretty cool achievement. I'd love to see their git repo...
the reason scammers actually give you free shit is to bait you into being greedy. the idea is that you think you can keep outsmarting them. but they've got a whole book of random shit they can try and it only takes one successful trick for you to get scammed.
There were dungeoneering bots a few months after it came out, if they can bot the captcha skill theater of blood is nothing.
Or hear me out.
All the people saying no or calling it too tedious were secretly already using a TOB bot, and just didn't want it to be known because of the profit margins with less bots doing it?
Ive always been curious if you play the game or just mainly do bot hunting?
Read the title and thought it was gonna be the content creator settled. I feel baited.
😢😢 its finally over. The osrs population is 70% bots 20% youtubers and 10% regular players.
Play on RS2 private servers if you want the true nostalgia experience.
How do I play rs2 private server?? want the real RuneScape back not this ghetto shit nowadays @@MK_ULTRA420
Not the LunaLux ASMR bot name 💀 Cool video as always, keep up the good work
I spotted a slayer bot last week at abyssal demons. Even had 99 RC, probably botted too
Next up: Sir pugger: botting to max with all knowledge i gained as a bot busting youtuber
Hackers/Bot Farmers are always going to evolve with the defense they’re up against. With the community full of adults, a lot that work in IT/Coding based job fields, the botters are getting really good at what they do. I fear that OSRS is build on such an old platform Jagex have exhausted the options they have to detect these things mixed with no wanting to have to dedicate their work force to monitor it
Considering this vid's covering ToB; that title HAS to be a reference to Swampletics XP
When the scam trader says "maba", isn't that the protagonists ign?
0:41 why were they all slashing sote with fang lmfao
I found a similar looking script at Sarachnis, 3-4 accounts all in sync. Strange to me considering the boss gp/phr
correct me if im wrong, but isnt the account "gupta" in the first tob bot team early in the video the alt account of the dmwatch streamer "guptor" i already know guptor is a botter and overall shady person in the dmwatch cc and discord. so it makes sense
I like how the last video is F*ck around and find out 😂
Im in aa few botting discords myself not coz i bot but i find it quite interssting, and i can confirm one of them have a tob bot that runs trios only
That’s something a bot would say
Ngl i got done by one of those scam bots at the end there before. I'd got over 50m from it, and i was catching them everytime they changed up the item or amount etc, but then they after like 30 trades they swapped from white plat token stack to feather and i thought they still had white plat tokens up and accepted for tbow xd
That's a big F in chat.
Bots bring more gold to Jagex than players do.
They will never fix it. Give your hopes up.
There isn't really any aspect of the game that can't be botted at this point, really interested to see how it affects the game over time.
Wife-finding bot?
@@XanderCatif she’s in the wildy, yes
AI will take care of that soon. Hologram/robot wife. Shut her down when you're done. @@XanderCat
i quit because of them, i pked, then all bots and scripters filled the wildy. I got into pvm doing phosanis nightmare learned it, it was hard and while i was doing it there were bots in crap get with 1k kc or better all the time. it was to demotivating they top guy is a bot with 10850 kc there and its not banned.
Wah, cry about it. @@yensive826
2:13 was multi clienting. The one account wasn’t hacked. That was the main.
I feel like the script would be more valuable if it were to have two of the bots leave the instance at the end like item carries would so it gives one account the highest chance of uniques.
Tip, the guardians of the rift bots on w468 are out of control. Also saw some bots farming flesh crawlers in the stronhold of security probably leveling combat while get the herb drops, cant remember the world tho sorry
Settled mentioned 🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
That last bit is why trade delay is such an important update. No quick swapping when I have 3 seconds to look at your items
Jagex should stop all bots. But they won't. Because they have to sell their company.
A friend of mine develops bots and he is quite good at it. I asked him why he doesn't make raid bots, particularly TOB bots. The only reason he didn't do TOB was that it would take too many accounts before the script is perfected. Apart from that, it was pretty do-able he said.
The worst botters i know are the zulrah bots in ferox enclave. Almost all have over 4000kc. For your zulrah teleport dropper, it is probably drop trading it because its one of the most expensive item and is expecting to be banned. It drops it so the person receiving it doesn't get banned. That being said, why is it so often and why in a public place? Best guess is it was currently broke or the teleports are used to detect a bot.
There is a plugin that shows how many bots or players that got banned from your ignore list. I have to say jagex is banning more than just the simple alching bots. It's a slight improvement but they need to ban thousands more but they are improving
How dare you go against the endless conspiracy theories with verifiable facts!
i came across bots in world 301 (f2p), they were outside the lumbridge castle and they're just walking around randomly and copy whatever someone says. its amusing but annoying, its at least 10-15 bots in this one area lmao
Ah the steven bots, I actually saw the guy actually talking to a group like at 3am. Dude seemed like hes just running em for fun and to flood chat from other bots selling gp/accs lol
yeah that was what happened when i was on and saw the steven/stevie bots, ppl were just messing with them most of the time i was there @@xanlosgames6270
"10:05" isnt something weird he literally said the dudes name... maba.... lol
it's scary that they don't even try to hide it. Not even an AI bot with randomized switches or sth.
random is allot harder to program than precise.
@@LegDayLas a bit harder yes, but it's been a thing for years now. Not as complicated as it sounds anymore.
I dont even play runescape anymore but I love watching your videos! Its unfortunate how this game has turned.
Im in the same boat the pvp is dead and the game is getting strangled by the tight grip the bots have on it
Imagine how bad botting will be when AI really takes off. Scary stuff
hey bro can you please sort out the friggen slayer bots, always a heaps at kurask in fremnick slay cave, they are flogging the heck out of the alchables/stackables for cash. love ya work
ya just to let you know we faked auto tob for pugger to make a video on it and it worked lmao
At 2:59 thats a real youtube channel used as the RSN which is kind of a weird choice xd.
Probably chain botting
you should look at the zalcano bots there around 80 cmb some of them have over 15k kc there theres so many
Bots for every raid. I’ve personally seen a toa bot ran for 3 days straight. lol.
i ran into one of those trade scam bots at the ge the other day trying to scam me for ely. it ended up trading me 1-2m several times. i walked away with 18m
Okay I know I am extremely high at the moment. But…. What if the people with perfect sync have actually got incredible skill?
Put the bong down
Wont be long before we have A.I playing RuneScape. I can even see A.I streamers
Love a good pugger upload
I just got a 3 day temporary ban for “real world trading” one day after my clan held a 150m drop party, and I received 8 whips -_- I submitted an appeal, but don’t see anything happening with it. Just gotta wait out the 3 days I guess.. There was also zero evidence/explanation shown for why I was temporarily banned for it.. Just “minor real world trading”
Jagex would lose too much money if they actually got serious about stopping bots... they gain millions and millions of dollars from them.
Scythe being 1b is hella motivation for botters
Jagex Will never stop bots. Their company is going bankrupt and they need all the money they can get
Big problem with 10:57, even if they aren't bots, a real person item scamming is still against the rules and should be punished the same. Jagex might want to check their own rule book, this isnt just 'being really crafty'
That's just trading and accepting quick trades, how is that technically a scam?
If they are making major profits in TOB it wouldn’t be unreasonable to do a name change every week.
if they're combo COX / TOB bots then they really aren't risking much given they botted for scythes?
And with AI agents that can learn to browse and click, we're near doom.
About time to make an extra tiers of membership. Not raising sub, but requiring "to buy the game" per jagex account 80$.
That would solve a lot.
New bot farms starting in soul wars on world 360 362 all venny ran with body guards
for that last trade scam bot, wouldn't it be wild if a botter made a botscript to keep scamming these people out of the money they drip-feed to people to train them?
Nah wouldn't have those huge "player" numbers without em
Pretty sure I found a bot farm in world 510 at soul wars
Tob isn't hard at all. The only thing that makes it hard is timing since if you mess up for one second you're instantly dead, but this obviously isn't an issue for bots since they have instant reaction time.
So there is a broken bot farm at spindel that me and a friend found , i hop in the cave and tb them , they go outside and always run into multi , they risk 500k , easy money
I think this could be multi boxing?
Bro jagex gotta stop being so nice to botters, if someone uses a script perma ban them, no matter the total levels.
When I botted this game back in the day they banned accounts permanently. Every once and a while you'd have an account that would get a 2nd chance, it was weird. I never botted for gold or "hey look at my stats", I only ever wanted an account with base minimum PVM stats, and I had a shit ton of pures. Zerkers, 1 def, chaotic maul/95 prayer/korasi pure. I was experimenting with all of them lol. These youtubers say they play legit, but I can almost guarantee they use to bot just like me. Or they have all day to play in which case must be nice.
I profited 60m off that exact extra heart bot lmao.
Was about time!❤