I wanted to make a video as soon as I could to share a reasonably consistent strategy for you all to use. It may not be the strategy to get the fastest kill ever, but it sure does work! If it wasn't for Jagex patching the 4 pile method it would have been live sooner.
I thought I read on the subreddit that they planned to hotfix using the Action Button as a "pause", adding a small punishment if you don't ascend the pillars
You can hop back and forth between telegraphs on the north east rocks and dodge them while chipping both away just click ability for pillars at the 9 on the boss bar. You can get sub 3 minute kill times this way.
This boss isn't fun in the slightest and it's arguably trash lmfao the game would be more fun without the boss 😂😂😂 the fact of it is they added something that's already dead content and uninteresting 😂😂
This method is going to be fixed the action button pressing without using the pillars won’t be possible as it will no longer reset or pause damage/healing
The method shown shouldn't be fixed unless I missed something. The boss heals if u dont slam it using the special button. That patch is live. I talk about it at 6:55
My strat for getting a 1 cycle fairly consistently has been the following: -Gather 25 moon shards at the start, repair barrier to 90%. This weakens 3 single target attacks. -Transmute/mine the 4 piles in the south west section. Deal with mechanics and eat accordingly. -Once I have mined all 4 rocks, use the button and jump up the pillars and bam, 1 cycle. Best time so far doing this is 2:58.2
i just can't stand how wonky the camera works when jumping. they need to do something about it, sometimes misclick because at the last second the camera moves to where my character is
If you practice some mechanics (like barracading on the last tick before skipping the first mechanic) and have good surges (double surge + mobile is pretty much all you need) you can consistently get 3:2X with a 2 or 2.5 cycle (having to raw throw 2 or 3 shards after the fight ends.) It's very very easy, I was getting consistent low 3 min times with almost no unlocks after around 30 mins lol.
There's also some things like 0 time doing a triple repair on barriers to deal with the mechanics in a non buggy way and only losing like 5s over the course of the fight. Still getting consistent sub 4s with no food/bug abuse.
instead of wasting time at the start you can repair the barrier while waiting. Also saying "you cant do anything about it", if you had repaired it it wouldnt be a problem, if you dont spam the action button since they will nerf it anyway
Jagex is patching this method so that the special action button can't be used as a pause without actually jumping the pillars. Also the begone attack does far less damage if south of a repaired barrier
You might be better off following a method I found that requires no barricade or food staying south for exactly the same consistent kill speed as this one you showed as an example. No supplies wasted.
Can you create a video about how to use the runic attuner and how it stacks up against the standard methods for rc xp? I'm curious if it's worth using to get 120 rc
@ProtoxxGaming I hear you, I'm hoping the memory dowser drops from 350m. Cause rhat would be a tough pill to swallow. I bought the runic attuned for 100m. Hoping it would be worth it. I played around with it for a bit getting to 49 charges. My thought process was to get the xp buffs and see if it works on miasma runes. That doesn't seem to be the case, so I'm curious if the xp rates would be better or worse than just doing miasma
@@c00lkid17 so I can't find any info about the thing besides the info on the wiki, how do charges work? Does it gain a charge every time you craft runes at an altar? And does it lose charges? I expect it does but wouldn't have a clue if it loses charges over time, or when unequipped or whatever
@TheEsparoba3 it charges every time you go to the attuned alter and craft runes. I don't believe it loses charges until you hit 50, then on your 50th craft, I believe it goes back to zero (im on 49). You can tele every 5 charges, and that's a separate count, so you don't lose 5 charges from the total number to tele, you just have to go to 5 alters before you can tele again
It seems to me like the bomb from the action button now heals about 2k hp. Bringing it up over 100k before the third trip. And the bosses "basic attack" seems to habe only a 1 tile hitbox rather than the displayed 3
Yeah to me not being able to do this cause i have to get 76 to 86 archeology to do the stupid quest which would be like 2 hours every day until the end of the event devoted just to be able to do the quest 😂
I personally can't stand croesus lol. To me, skilling bosses just feel lame. The concept of them is awesome, and it's good for skillers to have a boss, but ugh. They're just a slog to get through and really boring. Elidinis included .
good god this boss is some hot trash. it's like it was designed to just delete food from the game or something. Taking damage for the sake of taking damage is absolutely stupid
If you stay in the south part, you can kill the boss without food. You just have to keep an eye on your corruption stacks and cleanse them before you get too low. The damage over time is a bit harsh if you get too much corruption, so I recommend that you mine each ore after you've taken the corruption off the rock. A bunyip is a good familiar to bring as it heals you and is quite cheap. If you activate Excalibur after the 2nd "Begone" and use the Transfigure ability before the 3rd "Begone" attack hits you, then you have a good head start. If you use this, then you should be able to mine 2 full rocks and clean the corruption of the 3rd before attacking the boss. After this, you'll have less corruption since you already took the corruption off the 3rd rock, and cleansed the stacks by hitting the boss, so hopefully you can gather enough to finish up the boss in the 2nd hit. Hope it helps
Oof. I am still stuck at this part in the quest and died twice. To be fair, this is not a fun boss at all, and I will not do this after I'm done with the quest. :/
@@Vaikisspwnzit really is an easy boss, but to be this toxic towards somebody by insulting them lol 😂 the guy probably doesn’t spend that much time learning mechanics because… maybe he has a life outside of RuneScape where he probably hasn’t got the time to learn like most of us. Besides not everybody plays for PVM content or he simply could be a returning player that needs to catch up with new updates and interface changes. People like you are the reason why people don’t want to learn cause your not even offering constructive criticism 😂🎉. Pure elitist who thinks he his the bees knees looking down on people because he his goated at a point and click game that takes no skill 😂
Everyones overcomplicating the boss, you can 2 down in the same tome with 0 food by gathering the south side of the barrier. I feel like the pvmers are trying to min max and making jt seem much harder than it is
I found a method that does extremely consistent 3:30 kills staying south with no food or barricade or any boosts. If I'm going to waste food north of the barrier I found a videos showing a speed kill method that requires a lot of boots and a gargoyle with scrolls and a couple of sailfish that achieves kill speeds of under 2:30
Hey i was wondering, what do i do to avoid dying when the screen goes white/pale and i just constantly keep getting hit no matter what? i feel like i missed something
the first charged attack goes up to 10, then 7 the rest of them. Meaning you can transmute both those right side rocks and most of the rock near the heal sphere. i consistently get 4:40 kills, but i repair the barrier to 30% and dont tank those charged hits cuz i dont want to handle using a ton of food. I use 2-3 monkfish at most per kill
So i dont even go north, i just go to the west side, mine 4 of the rocks on the south side, this gives me a full yak and maybe 3 or 4 in my invy, then go and use the pillars jump as fast as i can for 25% and its usually always a 1 cycle, its really chill, i use very little food, and constantly getting kills.
Anyone else having trouble clicking the pillars? The moment they spawn they flicker in and out of view for a sec making it very hard to click them fast enough to get the 25% bonus
A guide if you want to make it as hard as possible.. just stay in south region and avoid most mechs with the same outcome I’m making 4 min kills with the same output with 0 food intake
Not sure if this has been fixed or called out previously. But, I was stuck in practice mode when i first did this boss and could not for the life of me figure out how to get to normal mode. I’d still get xp and drops, but no KC logged for my first several kills. I ended up having to go into the sanctum of rebirth dungeon and setting the dungeon to normal mode to correct it. I’d never done SoR before so it was set to practice mode I guess, which caused GoE to be set to practice mode as well. Leaving this for whoever else may have the same issue
If you have to two-phase the boss anyways and you said Jagex patched the boss from being one shot, why not just drop the pack yak and split the damage into two phases? Powerburst of vitality looks like it would be an ideal choice here as it uses less inventory space and is actually cheaper than most food options as well
An odd alternative I discovered for players without a corehammer- bring an augmented defender with the mobile perk rather than using Shadow's grace. The % chance to mitigate damage applies to pretty much every hit you can take.
It might be useful to know, that when you attack the boss, it will reduce your corruption stacks by 2 per blue ore you mine. Other useful items are Excalibur and a bunyip familiar. The ability transfigure can also be useful against the "begone" attack, especially if you have a high amount of corruption stats.
I just mine top left pile, left pile just under her, far right pile, start mining top right pile click action button and kill her in 1 jump, its a consistent like 3.04
imagine anyone with a brain testing this before it got released if it was unintended, how do they even miss that? i guess we are the ones who test it and they fix the bugs after the players report it
The method shown shouldn't be fixed unless I missed something. The boss heals if u dont slam it using the special button. That patch is live. I talk about it at 6:55
So am I to understand you can no longer summon the pillars with enough shards and one-shot the boss? Like if you had mined one extra ore piece, would you have killed the boss? Or did Jagex just permanently make sure no matter how many shards you have you cannot one-shot the boss on the first summon of pillars? You have to run and mine one more rock for somewhere and run back.
i'm still 1 cycling minutes ago. i find as long as i mine the 4 north rocks and hit pillars before he has 100k it's a 1 hit every time, i'm averaging 3:20 or so
I am very dissapointed in this boss, what really hyped up, did 50 kills, got an unique sold for 200M, extremelly repetitive and not worth the time, really sad
There is a safer method that I've performed that more takes around 5 and a half minutes, and does allow for face tanking every attack, as the attacks that are on cycle won't be enough to kill you, but the way I do it is I deplete a statue fragment node, initiate the Special Action to slam the statue, rush to the circle that Icthlarin created, and repeat. Fun fact, this method is so doable that you can even bring the Grace of the Elves and Brooch of the Gods equipped for some useful rares from the Seren Spirits and Invention Materials from Divine Blessings.
Tips: use the extra ability button at 9 boss adrenaline. Cade the next full bar, click the extra button at 6 boss adrenaline, and then just wait for it to come back to get a kill time of 3:17-3:20
I wanted to make a video as soon as I could to share a reasonably consistent strategy for you all to use. It may not be the strategy to get the fastest kill ever, but it sure does work! If it wasn't for Jagex patching the 4 pile method it would have been live sooner.
Jagex lied to you. 😢
I thought I read on the subreddit that they planned to hotfix using the Action Button as a "pause", adding a small punishment if you don't ascend the pillars
You can hop back and forth between telegraphs on the north east rocks and dodge them while chipping both away just click ability for pillars at the 9 on the boss bar. You can get sub 3 minute kill times this way.
Just sit about 4-5 tiles up from the wall and you’ll be safe from the push back
This boss isn't fun in the slightest and it's arguably trash lmfao the game would be more fun without the boss 😂😂😂 the fact of it is they added something that's already dead content and uninteresting 😂😂
Umm.. You didn’t get me a chance to grab my cup of tea before sitting back, relaxing, and enjoying.
Theres no time to relax! Fight the boss >:)
Lol
This method is going to be fixed the action button pressing without using the pillars won’t be possible as it will no longer reset or pause damage/healing
The method shown shouldn't be fixed unless I missed something. The boss heals if u dont slam it using the special button. That patch is live.
I talk about it at 6:55
My strat for getting a 1 cycle fairly consistently has been the following:
-Gather 25 moon shards at the start, repair barrier to 90%. This weakens 3 single target attacks.
-Transmute/mine the 4 piles in the south west section. Deal with mechanics and eat accordingly.
-Once I have mined all 4 rocks, use the button and jump up the pillars and bam, 1 cycle.
Best time so far doing this is 2:58.2
north?
I tried your method got best time 1st try. Much easier thanks
Hmm this is defo easier, but I'm not getting 1 cycles - getting it to about 17k
@@PlumpLumps try mining 1 north rock and 4 south that should get 1 cycle if you dont let dogs heal.
@@Nathan-uo9yf Still getting like 4:40 times - are you getting faster?
This game should really update its Looking for group interface
agreed
i just can't stand how wonky the camera works when jumping. they need to do something about it, sometimes misclick because at the last second the camera moves to where my character is
Yah. Camera should focus on a fixed position as soon as you click the first pillar
lol I feel you
bro sometimes the game can't follow how quick i click and then i miss the 25% damage horrible fix it jagex
This was a nice way to repurpose the Tuska Kill animation. Great video, brother.
Thanks man, made this fight a lot less annoying.
Got both divination and runecrafting offhand in 36 kill soloing😅
you lucky dog!
great guide, this boss looks doable solo ,will definitely try tonight
If you practice some mechanics (like barracading on the last tick before skipping the first mechanic) and have good surges (double surge + mobile is pretty much all you need) you can consistently get 3:2X with a 2 or 2.5 cycle (having to raw throw 2 or 3 shards after the fight ends.) It's very very easy, I was getting consistent low 3 min times with almost no unlocks after around 30 mins lol.
There's also some things like 0 time doing a triple repair on barriers to deal with the mechanics in a non buggy way and only losing like 5s over the course of the fight. Still getting consistent sub 4s with no food/bug abuse.
instead of wasting time at the start you can repair the barrier while waiting.
Also saying "you cant do anything about it", if you had repaired it it wouldnt be a problem, if you dont spam the action button since they will nerf it anyway
Jagex is patching this method so that the special action button can't be used as a pause without actually jumping the pillars. Also the begone attack does far less damage if south of a repaired barrier
You might be better off following a method I found that requires no barricade or food staying south for exactly the same consistent kill speed as this one you showed as an example. No supplies wasted.
Can you create a video about how to use the runic attuner and how it stacks up against the standard methods for rc xp? I'm curious if it's worth using to get 120 rc
I intend to, but I hate buying items on release because they crash in value
@ProtoxxGaming I hear you, I'm hoping the memory dowser drops from 350m. Cause rhat would be a tough pill to swallow. I bought the runic attuned for 100m. Hoping it would be worth it. I played around with it for a bit getting to 49 charges. My thought process was to get the xp buffs and see if it works on miasma runes. That doesn't seem to be the case, so I'm curious if the xp rates would be better or worse than just doing miasma
@@c00lkid17 so I can't find any info about the thing besides the info on the wiki, how do charges work? Does it gain a charge every time you craft runes at an altar? And does it lose charges? I expect it does but wouldn't have a clue if it loses charges over time, or when unequipped or whatever
@TheEsparoba3 it charges every time you go to the attuned alter and craft runes. I don't believe it loses charges until you hit 50, then on your 50th craft, I believe it goes back to zero (im on 49). You can tele every 5 charges, and that's a separate count, so you don't lose 5 charges from the total number to tele, you just have to go to 5 alters before you can tele again
Tyvm 😊
It seems to me like the bomb from the action button now heals about 2k hp. Bringing it up over 100k before the third trip.
And the bosses "basic attack" seems to habe only a 1 tile hitbox rather than the displayed 3
The 3x3 is bugged and only hits in a 1x1. But it's going to get patched
Yeah to me not being able to do this cause i have to get 76 to 86 archeology to do the stupid quest which would be like 2 hours every day until the end of the event devoted just to be able to do the quest 😂
Is it only me, or this "boss" seems lame compared to croesus? 🤔
I personally can't stand croesus lol. To me, skilling bosses just feel lame. The concept of them is awesome, and it's good for skillers to have a boss, but ugh. They're just a slog to get through and really boring. Elidinis included .
such a letdown....
Its only you, son.
@@BunsenMusicthe only good skilling boss is big game hunter (not actually a skilling boss but beats both croesus and gate...)
Boss for me itself is okay but the drops are underwhelming. Already below 250m 😮
Btw, tile is 1x1, not 3x3. You only need to step 1 space to avoid hit. The telegraph is inaccurate.
Confirmed that this is not intended and will be fixed if it isn't already
Wooow he dropped his empty tea last vid to signify there no more tea? Rip tea you will be missed
Can you bring persists rage and use barricade and immortal? Seems like free no food kill if that works
@@ThePogieJoe yes
It seems to keep you in combat with the mine/transmute hitsplats which negates persistent rage
Yes. I mention that in the video.
You can also use invention combat dummies to gain adrenaline off of using a weapon (not the th ones tho)
Is dying/failing here safe for HCIM?
@@Darby187 yes, you don't actually die just sent out
@@MAXIM_One big ups king
this method is so overcomplicated
That was about 6 videos without any meme sounds at the end? I lost count
I actually made two videos with a meme sound (but they have not uploaded yet, scheduled them for my upcoming holiday :( )
@@ProtoxxGaming i like this comment.
you forgot the loot bro how mush money you make fk
This kinda feels “very loosely” like guardians of the rift
Actually nvm not really, for some reason I just felt like it was
good god this boss is some hot trash. it's like it was designed to just delete food from the game or something. Taking damage for the sake of taking damage is absolutely stupid
If you stay in the south part, you can kill the boss without food. You just have to keep an eye on your corruption stacks and cleanse them before you get too low. The damage over time is a bit harsh if you get too much corruption, so I recommend that you mine each ore after you've taken the corruption off the rock. A bunyip is a good familiar to bring as it heals you and is quite cheap.
If you activate Excalibur after the 2nd "Begone" and use the Transfigure ability before the 3rd "Begone" attack hits you, then you have a good head start. If you use this, then you should be able to mine 2 full rocks and clean the corruption of the 3rd before attacking the boss. After this, you'll have less corruption since you already took the corruption off the 3rd rock, and cleansed the stacks by hitting the boss, so hopefully you can gather enough to finish up the boss in the 2nd hit.
Hope it helps
😊 requires too much pvm skills for a skilling boss 😂
its a boss that uses skills, not a skilling boss. learn how to play
and its genuinely not even difficult. using a few movement abilities? eating food? like bro
@@thepizzaman4768sit
@@thepizzaman4768 Not everyone has your amazing gaming skills, Pizzaman
@@jakes5425 dude, movement abilities dont require a lot of skill
Protooxx 😃
Oof. I am still stuck at this part in the quest and died twice. To be fair, this is not a fun boss at all, and I will not do this after I'm done with the quest. :/
poor guy lacking brain cells to figure out this easy af boss ?
@@Vaikisspwnzit really is an easy boss, but to be this toxic towards somebody by insulting them lol 😂 the guy probably doesn’t spend that much time learning mechanics because… maybe he has a life outside of RuneScape where he probably hasn’t got the time to learn like most of us. Besides not everybody plays for PVM content or he simply could be a returning player that needs to catch up with new updates and interface changes. People like you are the reason why people don’t want to learn cause your not even offering constructive criticism 😂🎉. Pure elitist who thinks he his the bees knees looking down on people because he his goated at a point and click game that takes no skill 😂
Skilling bosses aren't my cup of tea. I prefer BOSSING bossing. 🙃
ive been getting consistent 3.5min kills only doing the 4 north piles and 3 jumps. no food or BAB needed
Additional note- you cannot kill the akhs without moonstone shards. They aren't exclusively for the barrier.
Really want a Rift of the Guardian or tempo style skill boss/minigame. Just something chill and keeps you somewhat active.
Shards are needed to dismiss the companion of the boss that spawns and heals it.
I figured out if you repair the barricade, the big 6k dmg attack deals under 2k if you're behind the line of barricades when it hits you.
Does sign of life work here?
Yes
@@jimmymyers4203it does not
super simple boss also you can angle the camera to spam click just one spot to hit all of the pillars and the boss super fast
I think barricade shield help if you dont make it in time at the Circel wen insta kill comes ^^?
Everyones overcomplicating the boss, you can 2 down in the same tome with 0 food by gathering the south side of the barrier. I feel like the pvmers are trying to min max and making jt seem much harder than it is
@@danielcooke9215 faster kills require more risk and more effort? Who would have thought
The boss is already incredibly simple. Gathering north of the barrier makes it faster
I mean gather north walk 2 steps south on big hit. Best of both worlds
I found a method that does extremely consistent 3:30 kills staying south with no food or barricade or any boosts. If I'm going to waste food north of the barrier I found a videos showing a speed kill method that requires a lot of boots and a gargoyle with scrolls and a couple of sailfish that achieves kill speeds of under 2:30
Hey i was wondering, what do i do to avoid dying when the screen goes white/pale and i just constantly keep getting hit no matter what? i feel like i missed something
i've found that using zamorakian warpriest armour helps as it reduces the damage taken by alot and it adds up.
the first charged attack goes up to 10, then 7 the rest of them. Meaning you can transmute both those right side rocks and most of the rock near the heal sphere.
i consistently get 4:40 kills, but i repair the barrier to 30% and dont tank those charged hits cuz i dont want to handle using a ton of food. I use 2-3 monkfish at most per kill
They should let us use defensives for the big hits
Videos like these I dont find helpful, the information is spat out in a non structured, confusing way that just makes it frustrating to watch.
So i dont even go north, i just go to the west side, mine 4 of the rocks on the south side, this gives me a full yak and maybe 3 or 4 in my invy, then go and use the pillars jump as fast as i can for 25% and its usually always a 1 cycle, its really chill, i use very little food, and constantly getting kills.
Bro homies this shit looks borrrinnnngggg as fuck
Anyone else having trouble clicking the pillars? The moment they spawn they flicker in and out of view for a sec making it very hard to click them fast enough to get the 25% bonus
204 kills and all I have gotten is 2 offerings and 1 codex
I cant start encounter at Ichth., I have to approach Elidinis first.....?
A guide if you want to make it as hard as possible.. just stay in south region and avoid most mechs with the same outcome I’m making 4 min kills with the same output with 0 food intake
Thank you very much 🙂🪷🪷🪷 loved your tips 😊
I have a lot... and a mean A LOT of questing to do...
i do a very simulare thing but takes 4-5 min to kill her but uses 0 food
Not sure if this has been fixed or called out previously.
But, I was stuck in practice mode when i first did this boss and could not for the life of me figure out how to get to normal mode. I’d still get xp and drops, but no KC logged for my first several kills.
I ended up having to go into the sanctum of rebirth dungeon and setting the dungeon to normal mode to correct it. I’d never done SoR before so it was set to practice mode I guess, which caused GoE to be set to practice mode as well. Leaving this for whoever else may have the same issue
If you have to two-phase the boss anyways and you said Jagex patched the boss from being one shot, why not just drop the pack yak and split the damage into two phases? Powerburst of vitality looks like it would be an ideal choice here as it uses less inventory space and is actually cheaper than most food options as well
An odd alternative I discovered for players without a corehammer- bring an augmented defender with the mobile perk rather than using Shadow's grace. The % chance to mitigate damage applies to pretty much every hit you can take.
It might be useful to know, that when you attack the boss, it will reduce your corruption stacks by 2 per blue ore you mine.
Other useful items are Excalibur and a bunyip familiar.
The ability transfigure can also be useful against the "begone" attack, especially if you have a high amount of corruption stats.
I just mine top left pile, left pile just under her, far right pile, start mining top right pile click action button and kill her in 1 jump, its a consistent like 3.04
pretty sure clicking the action button early to delay the fight, as shown, is an unintended mechanic that Jagex have already said will be patched.
imagine anyone with a brain testing this before it got released if it was unintended, how do they even miss that? i guess we are the ones who test it and they fix the bugs after the players report it
What about 1xp mining drops, its unintended to?
How will they fix it? It's not like you can force people to use the pillars since if you're too slow they explode anyway
The method shown shouldn't be fixed unless I missed something. The boss heals if u dont slam it using the special button. That patch is live.
I talk about it at 6:55
@@ProtoxxGaming completely missed you talking about it - I thought you were using the stall method (pre patch), my bad!
People in the comments mad they cant just afk it.
barracade the bomb
So am I to understand you can no longer summon the pillars with enough shards and one-shot the boss? Like if you had mined one extra ore piece, would you have killed the boss? Or did Jagex just permanently make sure no matter how many shards you have you cannot one-shot the boss on the first summon of pillars? You have to run and mine one more rock for somewhere and run back.
i'm still 1 cycling minutes ago. i find as long as i mine the 4 north rocks and hit pillars before he has 100k it's a 1 hit every time, i'm averaging 3:20 or so
I am very dissapointed in this boss, what really hyped up, did 50 kills, got an unique sold for 200M, extremelly repetitive and not worth the time, really sad
And with no public lobbies who is even going to ever do this in a group? lmao
@@MAXIM_One and it's probably more difficult in a group
There is a safer method that I've performed that more takes around 5 and a half minutes, and does allow for face tanking every attack, as the attacks that are on cycle won't be enough to kill you, but the way I do it is I deplete a statue fragment node, initiate the Special Action to slam the statue, rush to the circle that Icthlarin created, and repeat. Fun fact, this method is so doable that you can even bring the Grace of the Elves and Brooch of the Gods equipped for some useful rares from the Seren Spirits and Invention Materials from Divine Blessings.
Tragic boss.
Tips: use the extra ability button at 9 boss adrenaline. Cade the next full bar, click the extra button at 6 boss adrenaline, and then just wait for it to come back to get a kill time of 3:17-3:20
Boring boss tbh
Can’t please everyone.
🧋
The "3x3" mechanic actually only hits 1 tile... you only need to move 1 tile to avoid it
I did like 12 kills and according to the quick chat, I've not killed it at all lol ... or rather, not "repaired" it at all
cuz u did it in practice mode aka just finished the quest
@@Vaikisspwnz but I'm still getting drops, I thought practice mode didnt give any?
Too confusing for me personally