How the DWe Performs with Roland Modules | V71, TD-50X, TD-27 & TD-716

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  • Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025

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  • @TheeDrumWorkshop
    @TheeDrumWorkshop  Месяц назад +7

    You can download the eDW Test preset 🥁from this video right here ►►
    theedrumworkshop.com/a/downloads/-/bbba8198dd38927e/089d75b3d3e8b155

    • @Damianusx
      @Damianusx Месяц назад

      Will the preset work on the TD-27 module?🥹

    • @TheeDrumWorkshop
      @TheeDrumWorkshop  Месяц назад +1

      No, sorry. Kits made on each module will only work on that module due to the different sounds and settings available on each. I have lots of great, affordable kits for the TD-27 on my store though - theedrumworkshop.com/collections/td27-kits

    • @Damianusx
      @Damianusx Месяц назад

      @@TheeDrumWorkshop I bought bark182, green daze and only use them, good job👍

  • @65Drums
    @65Drums Месяц назад +31

    This video was insanely informative! It answered questions I've had about this combo. I've dabbled with using module and DWe a couple of times, but always under time constraints and I never got it fully set up correctly. I tried using the DWe very briefly with a TD30 a year ago, but the MIDI notes didn't line up to what the TD30 needed, and I didn't have enough time to figure out how to remap everything. More recently I've used the DWe with a TD27 using the USB method. Everything worked great, but the rimshot triggered a click sound for some reason, and once again I didn't have enough time to change the settings to get it fully functional. Great video!

    • @TheeDrumWorkshop
      @TheeDrumWorkshop  Месяц назад +2

      Thanks Justin! 🙏 It's great that you've had the chance to try the kit with a few different modules, but a shame about having such limited time. Yeah, the MIDI mapping is something that will come up depending on the module. It's pretty easy to swap them in the Control software but if you don't have time or know where to find those settings then that's not much help!

  • @steevidrums
    @steevidrums Месяц назад +1

    @2:08 “jump around” 😂😂😂😂😂 nice touch mate!!!

  • @rogerwhitsettdrummer2922
    @rogerwhitsettdrummer2922 Месяц назад +4

    I have the DWe kit, DW Soundworks and the Roland V71 module. I use the DWe kit and Roland V71 module in a live setting. I also use the V71 editor on my laptop to quickly get to any settings that I need. I use the DWe hub connected to the V71 module and I also use Roland cymbals together with the DWe cymbals...or I can connect to DW Soundworks and run the outputs through an audio interface. Everything works GREAT!!!!

    • @nicogentry2
      @nicogentry2 11 дней назад

      This is awesome and similar to what I'm hoping to do, but I want to use the Roland snare instead of the DWe so that I get functional rubber rims. I want to use that snare and the digital hats and ride, so I'll be out of USB slots on the module and be forced to go MIDI. Do you know if there are any tradeoffs from going MIDI vs USB? And if I did need to adjust some pad settings on the fly, could I briefly use the USB, edit in the module, then save that to the drums and go back to MIDI for example? Thanks in advance!

  • @matthewsherman9765
    @matthewsherman9765 10 дней назад

    I really learned a lot from this actually and wish you and/or 65 drums did a master class to purchase on sorting all this out for dummies like me just getting a hold of things.

  • @123450301
    @123450301 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks a lot Luke for this overview! Nice work as always 😉

  • @482jpsquared
    @482jpsquared Месяц назад

    Stellar review, content, production and performances once again, Luke! Thank you for the immensely useful and detailed information.

  • @Acoustic2Electronic
    @Acoustic2Electronic Месяц назад +1

    Was hoping we'd get another video before Christmas, Luke! Merry Christmas to us! :)

  • @mikosoft
    @mikosoft Месяц назад

    2:09 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 I really laughed out loud at that little soundbyte :D

  • @AudioArcturia
    @AudioArcturia Месяц назад

    Such a cool kit - weird you'd use a Roland module with it :p

  • @pleaseandthankyou4161
    @pleaseandthankyou4161 Месяц назад

    Very nice kit and demo. For the time being I'll stick with my custom converted kit that cost 6% of what this DW kit costs. DIY triggers, IO interface into a mac running a VST. Getting positional sensing. Looking forward to the future with contactless triggers using AI training. Great time to be an E-kit drummer.

  • @jjptech
    @jjptech Месяц назад +2

    2:32 "I was given My DWe by Dw by being part of the testing team"... Envy consumes me slowly, I think I need to sell my Corolla Cross Hybrid to get this setup you have there. Amazing and informative video, but is missing something very important... Where can I sell My Corolla Cross??

  • @Gpetrine
    @Gpetrine Месяц назад +2

    Please do a DWe with SD3 video 😊

  • @WilliamBennerJr
    @WilliamBennerJr Месяц назад

    Aha. I just wrote to you about this kit!

  • @marcpieruccini3742
    @marcpieruccini3742 7 дней назад

    I have a 7pc DWe kit. It has a problem with second floor tom will not separate head and rim tone from floor tom 2 on a TD50X. I believe TD50X an maybe V71 only allows four toms not five?

  • @pmdci
    @pmdci 10 дней назад

    Hi Luke. Amazing video! I've been waiting for this! Quick question. At 5:57 you hit the second CY-16R-T and leave the stick over it, making some sort of choke. Does that need some special configuration?

    • @TheeDrumWorkshop
      @TheeDrumWorkshop  7 дней назад

      Hey! Thank you! I believe I've replied to your email asking this same question, but thought I'd add the reply here in case anyone else is reading/wondering -
      No, there's no special setting required to do this. The choke strip for the cymbal is across the top edge of the pad, so with enough pressure from a stick you can choke the cymbal like you can with your hands. Depending on the pad, it can require a precise angle or amount of pressure, but pretty much any cymbal with a similar construction should be able to do this.
      I sometimes showcase this on videos with Roland or other cymbals because Alesis recently used this as a selling point for their new Arc cymbals that come with the Strata kits, as if it was a feature that only exists on their products. It isn't! I will admit though that it's easier to do on their cymbals because of the way their pads are designed (the shape makes it easier and I believe they use 2 edge switches which gives a larger area for grabbing to choke them.) I'm not a fan of marketing speak that suggests features are new or unavailable elsewhere when they're not, so I like to throw a debunking in there now and again!
      In my experience with the new CY-16R-T pads that were on the review kit I had in the studio, it did feel like they were a bit more difficult to choke than I'm used to with Roland cymbals. So I had to apply more pressure than I usually do to perform this. I don't know if this is the case across all of these newer pads or if it was because the review unit had been on display for a while and hit a lot!

  • @jakobolofsson7780
    @jakobolofsson7780 Месяц назад

    Great video! Do you know if I can import TD 50/50x presets into V 71 module? I have many presets using the sub layers with my own imported samples

    • @TheeDrumWorkshop
      @TheeDrumWorkshop  Месяц назад +1

      As far as I'm aware you won't be able to, no. The V71 uses completely different internal sounds and many different settings, so as far as I know all kit files only work on the module they were made on.

    • @jakobolofsson7780
      @jakobolofsson7780 Месяц назад

      @ Got it! But connecting both TD 50 and 50x to DW kit worked?

    • @TheeDrumWorkshop
      @TheeDrumWorkshop  Месяц назад

      @@jakobolofsson7780 The 50X will work with the DWe hub but the original TD-50 software won't. Only the MIDI in workaround would work for the original 50.

  • @nicogentry2
    @nicogentry2 Месяц назад

    Thanks Luke! Could we get a tour of your personal ekit and your rationale for each decision you made (kick drum size, triggers chosen, etc)

    • @TheeDrumWorkshop
      @TheeDrumWorkshop  Месяц назад +1

      Hey! I've already done a video about building my kit which covers quite a bit of that - ruclips.net/video/HLo20jpZ8RA/видео.html

  • @melshibuya3454
    @melshibuya3454 18 дней назад

    My 7 piece DWe shell kit with Roland cymbals does not work well with my Roland TD50x module. DWe snare cross-stick does not work at all unless I press the middle of the drum head with my other hand. I tightened both top and bottom heads with no positive results. Recalibrated entire kit with a new Apple MacBook Pro Max M3 laptop, 1 TB, 32 GB. Connected laptop to left side of TD module via USB. Connected DWe drum link to digital USB and Midi In on module. DW Soundworks setting to vendor, Midi setting to off. Disconnect DW R-Tap after drum calibration. Headphone connected to Module. (Module has been updated to latest 1.20 version). Using kit with Roland cymbals. Appreciate your input when you return from your trip to NAMM 2025. Thanks for your excellent expertise regarding custom setups.

  • @TradeBoiprince93
    @TradeBoiprince93 Месяц назад

    well good thing i have a tdvxg2 now i can just add the cymbals thanks ❤❤😂😂

  • @JustanEdrummer
    @JustanEdrummer Месяц назад

    No gow deeper into the rabbit hole by adding the digital pads to the DWe and trigger Superior Drummer 3, you will encounter many weird stuff like local control on/off turning only the digital pads and not the DWe pads, having to disconnect and connect the hub everytime you want to make a small change to the DWe pads and a couple more :-)

  • @edrums
    @edrums 27 дней назад

    Thanks for the video, Luke. Is it worth pairing DWe pads and cymbals with TD-27 or would changing to a VAD 507 be a better option to get acoustic sized shells?

  • @dandeliondave7690
    @dandeliondave7690 26 дней назад

    Its probably pretty low on the priority list but could you so a review of the simmons MC series cymbals? They are extremly reasonably priced, about the same as lemon.

  • @jairocardeal
    @jairocardeal Месяц назад

    Hi Luke, really nice content.
    Could you please test the PD14DSX on the TD-27? I know the manual says that just works with v71 and TD-50X modules, but I'm hopping it can work a least the normal triggering and the positional sensing. Tks!

  • @Zursen
    @Zursen Месяц назад +1

    Awesome! I have a V71 & PD14DSX to upgrade my VAD706 kit. Super excited and still waiting on stock to arrive though lol. Are you working on V71 kits at the moment, judging by the free pre-set you have provided I'm guessing so! Will there be a way to transfer kits I purchased for the TD50X to the V71, or will it just be a case of you creating newer versions of those kits with the V71 module and selling them? How are you finding the V71 as an upgrade to the TD50X?

    • @TheeDrumWorkshop
      @TheeDrumWorkshop  Месяц назад

      I only had the TD-716 and V71 module in the studio for a few weeks, it's back with Roland now. So no, I've not had chance to develop any other kits for it yet. Once I get my own module, I'll begin development after getting more acquainted with it.
      The development process for every module is separate because they all use different sounds and settings so there won't be a transfer process, they'll have to be new kits that are sold separately.

  • @JustanEdrummer
    @JustanEdrummer Месяц назад

    You can trigger shallow and deep rimshots with the DWe snare in the V71, you just have to sacrifice rim clicks.

    • @TheeDrumWorkshop
      @TheeDrumWorkshop  Месяц назад +1

      Ok yeah, of course. I guess my point is that you can't get all of those articulations at the same time like you can with the digital snare.

    • @JustanEdrummer
      @JustanEdrummer Месяц назад

      @@TheeDrumWorkshop since SD3 doesn't have any shallow rimshots (yet) I'm happy triggering 4 articulations (Center, off center, edge, sidestick, rim click, rimshot) each with its own midi note and not based in PS CC for rim like roland modules.

  • @dlg521
    @dlg521 8 дней назад

    I bought the VAD716 with the V71. There is really no info I've found on what the settings are to use the V71 to trigger the kit sounds in Soundworks. Is there a link that someone can offer to give me that basic info?

  • @kimmossige263
    @kimmossige263 Месяц назад

    @TheeDrumWorkshop Thanks for this insightful video!
    Been following you for a while, and I really enjoy your channel! Was wondering if I can pick your brain a little.. I've had my TD17KVX since the pandemic, and planning now to upgrade, but not in size/footprint. I can't go above the MDS-compact rack.. Was thinking of upgrading to TD27 with added digital snare/HH/ride, or V71 module with added digital snare/HH/ride.
    Which one of these modules would you go for? Are the triggers better nuanced on the new PD-14DSX, than the previous PD-140DS?

  • @koleybolen1314
    @koleybolen1314 Месяц назад

    Hey! Is there a way to get the td50 to ignore incoming velocity? Like for certain samples to stay at 127 so the volume of certain oneshots dont change?

  • @jamesmcneil-d8h
    @jamesmcneil-d8h Месяц назад

    Great video, we bought the dwe kit for our church but the stick on cymbal noise was overwhelming. we added the roland cymbals and v71 module problem solved. is it possible to route the v71 into soundworks instead of adding all the dwe kits to the module from the cloud. thanks

    • @TheeDrumWorkshop
      @TheeDrumWorkshop  Месяц назад +2

      The kits on the Cloud and the Soundworks VST aren't exactly the same, so you won't get the same results. It feels like the Soundworks sounds might have a few more layers overall, but then the V71's samples play far more smoothly and feel more dynamic overall from the off. The number of instruments differs and all of the presets are very different, it's only some of the base samples that have been converted to Roland's module format.
      It is possible to just trigger Soundworks with the V71 module, yeah. You could either route the audio out of another audio interface, or you could use the module itself as the interface and route the audio out of the outputs but it requires a bit of knowledge to set it up.

  • @evenform
    @evenform Месяц назад

    I been searching for a video of how to get this into pro tools and still be to change the sounds ie perfect drums or dwe software as an Aax plugin as an insert.

    • @evenform
      @evenform Месяц назад

      This is what has held me back from making the purchase… no one seems to know anything about this in stores and haven’t seen anything about it online.

  • @barrycomer3688
    @barrycomer3688 Месяц назад

    I like the DWe but needing to remove heads to change batteries in a loser. Some owners have reported issues with inaccurate battery condition reporting. I will stick with wired pads for longer term reliability. Thanks for the video.

    • @TheeDrumWorkshop
      @TheeDrumWorkshop  Месяц назад

      It's definitely a downside, unfortunately. I understand why you would favour that reliability!

  • @theeddianproject
    @theeddianproject Месяц назад

    Hi mate. Nice video and drumming. I wonder if you could help I have a cheap Roland TD7 kit and I am having difficulty with the hi hats on all vst's I obviously use the td7 Roland profile on those vst's however there are still problems. Have you come across this at and are there any solutions?

    • @grumpy8413
      @grumpy8413 Месяц назад

      I have tried all VST programs with my TD27, triggering the hi hats just is not very good. I even tried the DW sound works, my VH14 just did not trigger as it should have, so I sacked all the VST programs and learned how to edit the TD27. Now I will not use any VST as the TD27 sounds great.

    • @theeddianproject
      @theeddianproject Месяц назад +1

      @@grumpy8413 Thanks for that buddy I thought I was doing something wrong.

    • @grumpy8413
      @grumpy8413 Месяц назад

      @@theeddianproject TD 27 is great on its own when you spend the time to learn what all the parameters do. I get a great kit sound from it.

  • @ddaniell3259
    @ddaniell3259 Месяц назад

    Anyone ho can help me? I have a roland td-17 and want to get better sounds for live preformence. I would like it to be as real and acounstic as possible. Where to find good sounds and kits and what do i need? Is there a way to get dw collecers maple sounds in my module?

  • @jamesbarron601
    @jamesbarron601 Месяц назад +1

    Would you use the DWe with a TD 50X (and laptop) for live gigs?

    • @TheeDrumWorkshop
      @TheeDrumWorkshop  Месяц назад

      Unlikely. I'm not with the band I used eDrums with anymore and I'm also not a fan of running a laptop at gigs as I mentioned in this video. I'd potentially use the kit with a module at gigs if I was (onboard/custom sounds), but I would also want to use rubber cymbals depending on the venue due to the volume!

    • @rogerwhitsettdrummer2922
      @rogerwhitsettdrummer2922 Месяц назад

      Hello James, I've used the DWe kit, DWe hub and TD50X module in a live situation! It works GREAT! Now I use my DWe kit, DWe hub and V71 module in a live situation. The difference in the TD50X and V71 is the sounds. The sounds are better in the V71 module.

  • @deeoosee
    @deeoosee Месяц назад +1

    Electronic drums will always sound off without backing music. With music they are more than fine.

  • @mikosoft
    @mikosoft Месяц назад

    I can't unhear the horrible machine gunning on the V71 module, especially on the toms of the DW expansions. Are there some kind of one shot samples causing it?

    • @TheeDrumWorkshop
      @TheeDrumWorkshop  Месяц назад

      No one-shot samples anywhere in the V71 examples as far as I'm aware, no. Pretty certain all of the presets on the module and in the expansions are using the full instruments (whether that's the stock ones or the ones added with the expansions)

  • @MLC7957
    @MLC7957 Месяц назад

    Can you do 2 different cc hihat on v71 with dwe? Or just two hihat with same cc?

    • @TheeDrumWorkshop
      @TheeDrumWorkshop  Месяц назад +1

      I'm pretty certain it would be 2 hi-hat pads with the same CC.

    • @MLC7957
      @MLC7957 Месяц назад

      @ thank you so much

  • @T-H-X
    @T-H-X Месяц назад +1

    Never would spent so much Money for a dw edrum set.

    • @MIkeBruDrums85
      @MIkeBruDrums85 Месяц назад +2

      That’s okay. It’s not for you

    • @T-H-X
      @T-H-X Месяц назад

      @ a real dw set i would spent a lot of Money. But Not for an edrum

    • @TheeDrumWorkshop
      @TheeDrumWorkshop  Месяц назад +1

      It can be converted to an acoustic kit too! It uses Collector's shells (though some Design hardware, if I remember correctly.) But yes, it's still very expensive.

  • @ArgonautDrums
    @ArgonautDrums Месяц назад +1

    I'm curious how many people actually own a DWe (aside from content creators). It's awesome tech, but unattainable for most.

    • @TheeDrumWorkshop
      @TheeDrumWorkshop  Месяц назад +2

      Yeah, I'm honestly not sure. There are a few people about with them online in the various groups (and one in this comment section!) but it would be interesting to find actual numbers.

    • @ArgonautDrums
      @ArgonautDrums Месяц назад

      @@TheeDrumWorkshop if it's lower than their expectations, I'm hoping that it doesn't discourage Roland from continuing to invest in the trigger system.

  • @mikalroyhansen9586
    @mikalroyhansen9586 Месяц назад +1

    can I use my Roland vad drum kit with 71 modul ❤

    • @TheeDrumWorkshop
      @TheeDrumWorkshop  Месяц назад

      Yeah, you should be able to use the V71 with pretty much any Roland kit!

  • @noahvellacott2643
    @noahvellacott2643 Месяц назад

    Hey man! Just wondering if you take dms on insta or if there’s somewhere else I can contact you?

    • @TheeDrumWorkshop
      @TheeDrumWorkshop  Месяц назад

      Hey. Yeah, I do but sometimes it takes me a couple of days to get to them if I'm really busy - I have to prioritize whichever project I'm working on and customer support messages if things are a bit hectic. I went to read your message just now and I can't appear to see it. Drop me an email through the store's contact page if you want to send it again and I'll try and get back to you as quickly as I can.

  • @martinjgriffiths
    @martinjgriffiths Месяц назад

    Do you get the 3 zones on dwe cymbals via a V71. Ie the bells?

  • @johndef5075
    @johndef5075 Месяц назад

    Some 303 protectant will clean those rubber cymbal stick marks up nicely.

    • @TheeDrumWorkshop
      @TheeDrumWorkshop  Месяц назад +1

      I have some and have recommended it in the past! But to be honest, I can't be bothered cleaning them all the time 😅

  • @snaven921
    @snaven921 Месяц назад +1

    New Roland kit vs DWe? thought?

    • @rogerwhitsettdrummer2922
      @rogerwhitsettdrummer2922 Месяц назад +1

      DWe and the Roland V71 module is what I use. I own Roland 706 kit, but I rather use my DWe kit.

    • @drumsnmore2545
      @drumsnmore2545 Месяц назад

      He does a full analysis of this question in the video. Have you watched it?

  • @morbidmanmusic
    @morbidmanmusic Месяц назад

    so flat sounding. Not much has progressed in decades/

  • @grumpy8413
    @grumpy8413 Месяц назад

    That Rooland snare looks really crap, its about time they put it in a shell that looks more like an acoustic snare. I took the basked out of my Roland 140 snare and put it in a Peral snare wood shell. Looks much better with the VAD 607 kit.

    • @johndef5075
      @johndef5075 Месяц назад +1

      I took guts from my pd-120 pad and put it into my Ludwig snare shell for my Acoustic to electric conversion.

    • @aaronsudasna
      @aaronsudasna Месяц назад +1

      You could just wrap the shell

    • @williamthompson5078
      @williamthompson5078 Месяц назад +2

      DW need to make Rubber wireless cymbals !!!!

    • @grumpy8413
      @grumpy8413 Месяц назад

      @@aaronsudasna And put that plastic rim back on with those lugs, best just to do what I did and put the sensor in a real snare. I wrapped my whole kit as it only came in sparkle black when I bought my VAD 507. I do have the V71 on order as the TD 27 is very limiting for recording. using it as the sound card connected to my PC is a very painstaking process. If you have a windows PC you can only run one sound module at a time. So I have to disconnect my Scarlett 18i20, connect the TD27. load all the input channel settings, record the kit. If I want to re record a bass part I have to disconnect the TD 27 and put the 1820 back. It's all centered on people just playing drums. very poorly thought out. Unless you spend £5k on a Mac. best just to use the midi, that then defeats the purpose of the 27 channels from USB. This is a very important point that is just never mentioned about using the Roland modules with a DAW PC recording setup. As a sound module that is one of its selling points and the reason I bought it, it's really not very good, in fact its bad. facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10161467693726802&set=a.10151323187246802

  • @ChrisBealsProductions
    @ChrisBealsProductions Месяц назад

    Still those subpar useless tomtom samples. Nahhhhh