This video was insanely informative! It answered questions I've had about this combo. I've dabbled with using module and DWe a couple of times, but always under time constraints and I never got it fully set up correctly. I tried using the DWe very briefly with a TD30 a year ago, but the MIDI notes didn't line up to what the TD30 needed, and I didn't have enough time to figure out how to remap everything. More recently I've used the DWe with a TD27 using the USB method. Everything worked great, but the rimshot triggered a click sound for some reason, and once again I didn't have enough time to change the settings to get it fully functional. Great video!
Thanks Justin! 🙏 It's great that you've had the chance to try the kit with a few different modules, but a shame about having such limited time. Yeah, the MIDI mapping is something that will come up depending on the module. It's pretty easy to swap them in the Control software but if you don't have time or know where to find those settings then that's not much help!
I have the DWe kit, DW Soundworks and the Roland V71 module. I use the DWe kit and Roland V71 module in a live setting. I also use the V71 editor on my laptop to quickly get to any settings that I need. I use the DWe hub connected to the V71 module and I also use Roland cymbals together with the DWe cymbals...or I can connect to DW Soundworks and run the outputs through an audio interface. Everything works GREAT!!!!
2:32 "I was given My DWe by Dw by being part of the testing team"... Envy consumes me slowly, I think I need to sell my Corolla Cross Hybrid to get this setup you have there. Amazing and informative video, but is missing something very important... Where can I sell My Corolla Cross??
Very nice kit and demo. For the time being I'll stick with my custom converted kit that cost 6% of what this DW kit costs. DIY triggers, IO interface into a mac running a VST. Getting positional sensing. Looking forward to the future with contactless triggers using AI training. Great time to be an E-kit drummer.
Awesome! I have a V71 & PD14DSX to upgrade my VAD706 kit. Super excited and still waiting on stock to arrive though lol. Are you working on V71 kits at the moment, judging by the free pre-set you have provided I'm guessing so! Will there be a way to transfer kits I purchased for the TD50X to the V71, or will it just be a case of you creating newer versions of those kits with the V71 module and selling them? How are you finding the V71 as an upgrade to the TD50X?
I only had the TD-716 and V71 module in the studio for a few weeks, it's back with Roland now. So no, I've not had chance to develop any other kits for it yet. Once I get my own module, I'll begin development after getting more acquainted with it. The development process for every module is separate because they all use different sounds and settings so there won't be a transfer process, they'll have to be new kits that are sold separately.
Great video, we bought the dwe kit for our church but the stick on cymbal noise was overwhelming. we added the roland cymbals and v71 module problem solved. is it possible to route the v71 into soundworks instead of adding all the dwe kits to the module from the cloud. thanks
The kits on the Cloud and the Soundworks VST aren't exactly the same, so you won't get the same results. It feels like the Soundworks sounds might have a few more layers overall, but then the V71's samples play far more smoothly and feel more dynamic overall from the off. The number of instruments differs and all of the presets are very different, it's only some of the base samples that have been converted to Roland's module format. It is possible to just trigger Soundworks with the V71 module, yeah. You could either route the audio out of another audio interface, or you could use the module itself as the interface and route the audio out of the outputs but it requires a bit of knowledge to set it up.
Unlikely. I'm not with the band I used eDrums with anymore and I'm also not a fan of running a laptop at gigs as I mentioned in this video. I'd potentially use the kit with a module at gigs if I was (onboard/custom sounds), but I would also want to use rubber cymbals depending on the venue due to the volume!
Hello James, I've used the DWe kit, DWe hub and TD50X module in a live situation! It works GREAT! Now I use my DWe kit, DWe hub and V71 module in a live situation. The difference in the TD50X and V71 is the sounds. The sounds are better in the V71 module.
I like the DWe but needing to remove heads to change batteries in a loser. Some owners have reported issues with inaccurate battery condition reporting. I will stick with wired pads for longer term reliability. Thanks for the video.
Hi mate. Nice video and drumming. I wonder if you could help I have a cheap Roland TD7 kit and I am having difficulty with the hi hats on all vst's I obviously use the td7 Roland profile on those vst's however there are still problems. Have you come across this at and are there any solutions?
I have tried all VST programs with my TD27, triggering the hi hats just is not very good. I even tried the DW sound works, my VH14 just did not trigger as it should have, so I sacked all the VST programs and learned how to edit the TD27. Now I will not use any VST as the TD27 sounds great.
I can't unhear the horrible machine gunning on the V71 module, especially on the toms of the DW expansions. Are there some kind of one shot samples causing it?
No one-shot samples anywhere in the V71 examples as far as I'm aware, no. Pretty certain all of the presets on the module and in the expansions are using the full instruments (whether that's the stock ones or the ones added with the expansions)
It can be converted to an acoustic kit too! It uses Collector's shells (though some Design hardware, if I remember correctly.) But yes, it's still very expensive.
Hey. Yeah, I do but sometimes it takes me a couple of days to get to them if I'm really busy - I have to prioritize whichever project I'm working on and customer support messages if things are a bit hectic. I went to read your message just now and I can't appear to see it. Drop me an email through the store's contact page if you want to send it again and I'll try and get back to you as quickly as I can.
Yeah, I'm honestly not sure. There are a few people about with them online in the various groups (and one in this comment section!) but it would be interesting to find actual numbers.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop if it's lower than their expectations, I'm hoping that it doesn't discourage Roland from continuing to invest in the trigger system.
That Rooland snare looks really crap, its about time they put it in a shell that looks more like an acoustic snare. I took the basked out of my Roland 140 snare and put it in a Peral snare wood shell. Looks much better with the VAD 607 kit.
@@aaronsudasna And put that plastic rim back on with those lugs, best just to do what I did and put the sensor in a real snare. I wrapped my whole kit as it only came in sparkle black when I bought my VAD 507. I do have the V71 on order as the TD 27 is very limiting for recording. using it as the sound card connected to my PC is a very painstaking process. If you have a windows PC you can only run one sound module at a time. So I have to disconnect my Scarlett 18i20, connect the TD27. load all the input channel settings, record the kit. If I want to re record a bass part I have to disconnect the TD 27 and put the 1820 back. It's all centered on people just playing drums. very poorly thought out. Unless you spend £5k on a Mac. best just to use the midi, that then defeats the purpose of the 27 channels from USB. This is a very important point that is just never mentioned about using the Roland modules with a DAW PC recording setup. As a sound module that is one of its selling points and the reason I bought it, it's really not very good, in fact its bad. facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10161467693726802&set=a.10151323187246802
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This video was insanely informative! It answered questions I've had about this combo. I've dabbled with using module and DWe a couple of times, but always under time constraints and I never got it fully set up correctly. I tried using the DWe very briefly with a TD30 a year ago, but the MIDI notes didn't line up to what the TD30 needed, and I didn't have enough time to figure out how to remap everything. More recently I've used the DWe with a TD27 using the USB method. Everything worked great, but the rimshot triggered a click sound for some reason, and once again I didn't have enough time to change the settings to get it fully functional. Great video!
Thanks Justin! 🙏 It's great that you've had the chance to try the kit with a few different modules, but a shame about having such limited time. Yeah, the MIDI mapping is something that will come up depending on the module. It's pretty easy to swap them in the Control software but if you don't have time or know where to find those settings then that's not much help!
I have the DWe kit, DW Soundworks and the Roland V71 module. I use the DWe kit and Roland V71 module in a live setting. I also use the V71 editor on my laptop to quickly get to any settings that I need. I use the DWe hub connected to the V71 module and I also use Roland cymbals together with the DWe cymbals...or I can connect to DW Soundworks and run the outputs through an audio interface. Everything works GREAT!!!!
Stellar review, content, production and performances once again, Luke! Thank you for the immensely useful and detailed information.
Thanks John! 🙏
Thanks a lot Luke for this overview! Nice work as always 😉
Thanks! 🙏
Was hoping we'd get another video before Christmas, Luke! Merry Christmas to us! :)
2:09 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 I really laughed out loud at that little soundbyte :D
Such a cool kit - weird you'd use a Roland module with it :p
2:32 "I was given My DWe by Dw by being part of the testing team"... Envy consumes me slowly, I think I need to sell my Corolla Cross Hybrid to get this setup you have there. Amazing and informative video, but is missing something very important... Where can I sell My Corolla Cross??
Please do a DWe with SD3 video 😊
Very nice kit and demo. For the time being I'll stick with my custom converted kit that cost 6% of what this DW kit costs. DIY triggers, IO interface into a mac running a VST. Getting positional sensing. Looking forward to the future with contactless triggers using AI training. Great time to be an E-kit drummer.
Aha. I just wrote to you about this kit!
Awesome! I have a V71 & PD14DSX to upgrade my VAD706 kit. Super excited and still waiting on stock to arrive though lol. Are you working on V71 kits at the moment, judging by the free pre-set you have provided I'm guessing so! Will there be a way to transfer kits I purchased for the TD50X to the V71, or will it just be a case of you creating newer versions of those kits with the V71 module and selling them? How are you finding the V71 as an upgrade to the TD50X?
I only had the TD-716 and V71 module in the studio for a few weeks, it's back with Roland now. So no, I've not had chance to develop any other kits for it yet. Once I get my own module, I'll begin development after getting more acquainted with it.
The development process for every module is separate because they all use different sounds and settings so there won't be a transfer process, they'll have to be new kits that are sold separately.
Great video, we bought the dwe kit for our church but the stick on cymbal noise was overwhelming. we added the roland cymbals and v71 module problem solved. is it possible to route the v71 into soundworks instead of adding all the dwe kits to the module from the cloud. thanks
The kits on the Cloud and the Soundworks VST aren't exactly the same, so you won't get the same results. It feels like the Soundworks sounds might have a few more layers overall, but then the V71's samples play far more smoothly and feel more dynamic overall from the off. The number of instruments differs and all of the presets are very different, it's only some of the base samples that have been converted to Roland's module format.
It is possible to just trigger Soundworks with the V71 module, yeah. You could either route the audio out of another audio interface, or you could use the module itself as the interface and route the audio out of the outputs but it requires a bit of knowledge to set it up.
Would you use the DWe with a TD 50X (and laptop) for live gigs?
Unlikely. I'm not with the band I used eDrums with anymore and I'm also not a fan of running a laptop at gigs as I mentioned in this video. I'd potentially use the kit with a module at gigs if I was (onboard/custom sounds), but I would also want to use rubber cymbals depending on the venue due to the volume!
Hello James, I've used the DWe kit, DWe hub and TD50X module in a live situation! It works GREAT! Now I use my DWe kit, DWe hub and V71 module in a live situation. The difference in the TD50X and V71 is the sounds. The sounds are better in the V71 module.
Tou can trigger shallow and deep rimshots with the DWe snare in the V71, you just have to sacrifice rim clicks.
Ok yeah, of course. I guess my point is that you can't get all of those articulations at the same time like you can with the digital snare.
I like the DWe but needing to remove heads to change batteries in a loser. Some owners have reported issues with inaccurate battery condition reporting. I will stick with wired pads for longer term reliability. Thanks for the video.
It's definitely a downside, unfortunately. I understand why you would favour that reliability!
Hi mate. Nice video and drumming. I wonder if you could help I have a cheap Roland TD7 kit and I am having difficulty with the hi hats on all vst's I obviously use the td7 Roland profile on those vst's however there are still problems. Have you come across this at and are there any solutions?
I have tried all VST programs with my TD27, triggering the hi hats just is not very good. I even tried the DW sound works, my VH14 just did not trigger as it should have, so I sacked all the VST programs and learned how to edit the TD27. Now I will not use any VST as the TD27 sounds great.
@@grumpy8413 Thanks for that buddy I thought I was doing something wrong.
@@theeddianproject TD 27 is great on its own when you spend the time to learn what all the parameters do. I get a great kit sound from it.
I can't unhear the horrible machine gunning on the V71 module, especially on the toms of the DW expansions. Are there some kind of one shot samples causing it?
No one-shot samples anywhere in the V71 examples as far as I'm aware, no. Pretty certain all of the presets on the module and in the expansions are using the full instruments (whether that's the stock ones or the ones added with the expansions)
Can you do 2 different cc hihat on v71 with dwe? Or just two hihat with same cc?
I'm pretty certain it would be 2 hi-hat pads with the same CC.
@ thank you so much
can I use my Roland vad drum kit with 71 modul ❤
Yeah, you should be able to use the V71 with pretty much any Roland kit!
Never would spent so much Money for a dw edrum set.
That’s okay. It’s not for you
@ a real dw set i would spent a lot of Money. But Not for an edrum
It can be converted to an acoustic kit too! It uses Collector's shells (though some Design hardware, if I remember correctly.) But yes, it's still very expensive.
New Roland kit vs DWe? thought?
DWe and the Roland V71 module is what I use. I own Roland 706 kit, but I rather use my DWe kit.
Do you get the 3 zones on dwe cymbals via a V71. Ie the bells?
This is answered in the video!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop even twice or thrice...
Hey man! Just wondering if you take dms on insta or if there’s somewhere else I can contact you?
Hey. Yeah, I do but sometimes it takes me a couple of days to get to them if I'm really busy - I have to prioritize whichever project I'm working on and customer support messages if things are a bit hectic. I went to read your message just now and I can't appear to see it. Drop me an email through the store's contact page if you want to send it again and I'll try and get back to you as quickly as I can.
I'm curious how many people actually own a DWe (aside from content creators). It's awesome tech, but unattainable for most.
Yeah, I'm honestly not sure. There are a few people about with them online in the various groups (and one in this comment section!) but it would be interesting to find actual numbers.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop if it's lower than their expectations, I'm hoping that it doesn't discourage Roland from continuing to invest in the trigger system.
Electronic drums will always sound off without backing music. With music they are more than fine.
Some 303 protectant will clean those rubber cymbal stick marks up nicely.
I have some and have recommended it in the past! But to be honest, I can't be bothered cleaning them all the time 😅
That Rooland snare looks really crap, its about time they put it in a shell that looks more like an acoustic snare. I took the basked out of my Roland 140 snare and put it in a Peral snare wood shell. Looks much better with the VAD 607 kit.
I took guts from my pd-120 pad and put it into my Ludwig snare shell for my Acoustic to electric conversion.
You could just wrap the shell
DW need to make Rubber wireless cymbals !!!!
@@aaronsudasna And put that plastic rim back on with those lugs, best just to do what I did and put the sensor in a real snare. I wrapped my whole kit as it only came in sparkle black when I bought my VAD 507. I do have the V71 on order as the TD 27 is very limiting for recording. using it as the sound card connected to my PC is a very painstaking process. If you have a windows PC you can only run one sound module at a time. So I have to disconnect my Scarlett 18i20, connect the TD27. load all the input channel settings, record the kit. If I want to re record a bass part I have to disconnect the TD 27 and put the 1820 back. It's all centered on people just playing drums. very poorly thought out. Unless you spend £5k on a Mac. best just to use the midi, that then defeats the purpose of the 27 channels from USB. This is a very important point that is just never mentioned about using the Roland modules with a DAW PC recording setup. As a sound module that is one of its selling points and the reason I bought it, it's really not very good, in fact its bad. facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10161467693726802&set=a.10151323187246802
Still those subpar useless tomtom samples. Nahhhhh