It caught me by surprise how much I appreciated the extra effort for the opera here. This was always a special part of this game. I'm glad to see the people at SquareEnix realize it too.
@@sasca854 This is done in 7 different languages, English one is by far the worst I think... But I suppose in a way this also makes sense because Celes is not a real aria singer so in that regard maybe English version is the most realistic
I played the original years back and eagerly waited for this scene...but i was not expecting ACTUAL singing. My jaw dropped, my eyes welled up.....this was so, so good.
I very rarely cry for anything, no matter how sad or emotional it is, but seeing new life being breathed into my childhood, to see this scene as beautiful as I imagined to be when I first played this game as a kid, that did it for me. I haven't cried like this in a long, long time.
It's not full scale but a rock version of Darkness and Starlight was in one of the Black Mages albums. III I think. It has the same bits plus the finale that was cut off in the game.
@@solblackguy If you've never heard it, listen to "The Impresario" by Jake Kaufman and Tommy Pedrini. It's as close as we'll get and it's SPOT-ON. Like Uematsu and Queen had a baby.
i got so surprised with the 3d backgrounds. and when the voices came in for marias solo i started tearing up a bit. mightve not been old enough to experience this game 30 years ago but damn, this game means a lot to me.
30 years later... I still tear up just the same as when i was the 16 year old kid, playing this for the first time. This is the true Final Fantasy. The greatest one ever made.
Listening to it, my friend and I felt like we could make out the words (by reading the lyrics and listening to the sounds). We knew it wasn't the actual voices but it pushed the SNES to its limits and thus was just as moving. This was great hearing the actual singing but the SNES version will always be special.
@@Ebani it’s called nostalgia. I’ve heard both, i love the remaster version so much more. People say her singing is bad, but I really like it personally
I just realized the scene where Celes throws the flowers off the side of the castle foreshadows a devastating moment much later in the story. What a well thought out masterpiece this game is. Hits you in the feels
I remember so clearly the first time I played this part. It was those 8-bit midi audio, and even then, you can even hear the lyrics as the music went. With the remastered music and added lyrics, wow, my imagination of back then when I first heard it has come back into this remastered version.
Haha, I always loved that part where you crash down onto the stage, and the impresario decides to wing it after the two male actors are accidentally knocked out.
Me too. Just got to that part yesterday and I'm finding all these little touches and subtext that I'm wholeheartedly enjoying, even more than the first time I played it.
I also caught a little moment in that same scene that somehow had eluded me for 30 years until my most recent playthrough! Locke accidentally breaks character in his improvised speech and calls Maria "Celes" by mistake XD
I love how while it's clear Celes isn't trained for this, that's the whole point as the goal was simply to draw out Setzer. She's NOT a trained opera singer, she's a general. But yet she still sounds beautiful in her own way, and it gives the scene charm that no other version of the game has, especially with the 2D-HD treatment for the scene. This is easily the BEST scene in the enitre series for me with the vocals and asthetics. Edit: If I had known people were going to call me wrong AND stupid just for sharing my own opinion on the scene I wouldn't have said anything. I'm keeping this up for posterity but my god.
I highly doubt that this was intentional. She sounds like a real opera singer in all of the other languages… And the game implies that she pretty much nailed it.
Setzer would not have kidnapped her with such performance, he would notice it's a trap, besides she is a General no a simple soldier, I think she would be trained in different arts since childhood and would at least try to sound a bit like a real opera singer to caught Setzer.
I think it's likely intentional that she sounds untrained. The classic opera vibrato is unmistakable, and is a hallmark of the genre. It's actually a consequence of the singing technique and is not as controlled as one might think. In other words, an opera singer does not purposely sing with that amount of vibrato, it just happens. So if you don't hear that vibrato, the singer is not using "proper" technique. Though personally I find the amount of vibrato obnoxious even though it's "proper" lol
I think A lame excuse for it to sound so weird. Why can't she be a good singer and that be believable when people suplex trains and she is out there destroying gods and gigantic monsters from hell and she weighs 90 lbs.
The true beauty of Final Fantasy 6 is how they will make a really serious scene, follow it up with a crazy premise (Octopus Prince jumps the show) and then just roll with it. It's almost the same with Doma castle; You meet Cyan after the tragedy, but then he crashes the magitek armor through the nearby camp.
If they actually had voice acting in this game, and had their little pixel-art mouths move to the words, it would easily be the coolest version of this game ever made
Her mouth moves to the words in the original SNES version. It's so bizarre that Square Enix changed her mouth to be static in the Pixel Remaster, which is clearly a downgrade. I have to assume this was due to added multi-language support and the relative complexity (or laziness) of the dev team to make lip syncing work across each language.
I like how her singing is kind of bad, because it sounds like someone that's never sang in her life singing for the first time, and that's the situation Celes was in.
Lol I thought it was great, both the male and female voice actors. I guess I am a complete amateur when it comes to musical appreciation. I know it was great because I started tearing up from the sheer beauty when celes starts singing. Just to me. I guess I am easy to please.
@@maxstone9999 is not that is actually bad, but celes singing sounds unprofessional on purpose and that hit me aswell in the feels. That's a level of effort i wasn't expecting.
When people ask me why final fantasy 6 is my favorite game of all time I just show them the Opera scene and now with the pixel remaster they can actually hear the lyrics instead of just reading them.
It sucks that they took down that watered down looking remake and made it look like this. So, I get to play through this again. I have played through multiple times and only ever beat the game on that ugly mobile remake. This game needs a full 3D remake. The characters look great in Opera Omnia, and look as if they could be in a remake looking like that.
@Raleigh Harris unfortunately Final Fantasy 7 has another mobile remake called Ever Crisis coming sometime this year. I did see a few fan made 3d Final Fantasy 6 remakes here on RUclips somewhere, which looks unique compared to this one. Most of these Square-Enix Final Fantasy pixel remakes has this awful lag issues aside from the fonts most fans including myself don't like, but the soundtrack sounds better than the original.
I was watching my friend play this yesterday. Before we got to the opera he said it was one of the best, if not the greatest, scenes in video game history. I honestly think the same. I damn near ugly cried watching this lol.
God this whole part of the game would be fucking phenomenal if they did a full on remake. The whole game would be phenomenal. 7, 9 and 6 are the three I really want full remakes of. I personally think this singing is the perfect example of the perfect/imperfect theory. It's not that great, which makes it perfect because it's more believable. In my mind, this is exactly how Celes sounds. They nailed it. It makes me want a remake even more...
That's because they used the HD/2D engine they created for Octopath for this one section. They are remaking their first game in this engine Live A Live (the first game made by the creator of chrono trigger but never released outside japan and often said to be one of the best rpgs) They have said they plan to do more remakes in this engine so maybe this was a sorta test to see ow people would react to ff6? Was a crazy time for square then as FF6 - Live A Live - Chrono Trigger were all released one after another and I'd love for the other 2 to get a remake too .. can't wait for Live A Live tho
I fast forward to the opera scene, even when it begins I tear up. I replayed the last parts over, and was in tears. Truly amazing! Final Fantasy Vi is one of the most amazing Final Fantasy games, one of the most amazing RPG games, and one of the most amazing video games ever created! 🎼🎵🎶
Not counting Final Fantasy 7 Remake and the Dissidia games, adding actual voice actors to sing in this scene makes Celes the only playable party member character prior to Final Fantasy 10 that we now have a general idea what her speaking voice would sound like.
I was excited when I heard that they'd redone the music for the pixel remasters. Now I know people are nostolgic and some do prefer the original snes chiptune. However as someone who played this years after, and while listening to all the redone fan covers, I can safely say this is accurate to the original intent with the opera sequence. Its like taking all the best parts of some of the fan covers and reworking some of the live preformances done by Uematsu himself. The 2.5 D is also an interesting approach to a remaster of the game. I see many people saying they should have just done a staight 2d port, which I don't see much of a point in. There is already the gba version, the ios version, and the playstation version. There would literally be no point in another straight 2d port.
This is the only part of the game that has any 3D effect. The rest of the game is entirely 2D. I *wish* they would have spent the effort to do the whole game like this, but the rest of it's a pretty much a straight 2d port with a lot of bugs, incorrect (Narche is displayed as a generic cave on the world map in PR, unlike the original which showed a city in the mountains.) or shrunken sprites in some cases (due to being adapted to the GBA's small vertical resolution, which this PR based its sprites on. Makes some bosses look less imposing.) and really contrasting overworld tiles taken from the GBA version (which were brightened to almost looking neon to compensate the non-backlit LCD). Also, some scenes and exchanges from the original Japanese SFC release were removed. Though, this has been the case for years... just, kind of disappointed that it's still happening in 2022.
@@StrikerTheHedgefox true, I meant this scene as a whole, rather the whole game. People keep throwing around demands for what they wanted from this port. I don't seem the point in the purist perspective. That being a port of the game with no changes, no updated Sprite or background work, or orchestrated ost. There are many ports that already exist to fill that purpose. The pixel remasters are interesting in that they can both keep the charm of the original while taking advantage of modern tech to enhance music and Sprite detail.
Considering how much people love this sequence (and Robot Chicken's Wrath of Khan Opera), I think more people would love opera if they gave it a chance.
This scene made a huge impact on me back when I was a kid playing this game (as 'Final Fantasy III') on SNES. One of the most magical musical moments in a game already FULL of magical music. At the time it had the greatest OST in video game history.
No one's gonna point out how the conductor isn't jittering frantically anymore? Good thing they fixed that, suits the harmonic nature of this part of the game
@@Ashgrom 7 remake was great, what are you talking about? Sure it was different in some areas, but it respects the original while doing its own thing which is great. If they were to remake this one they wouldn’t change anything like how they did 7
@@captainpep3 It's not just "different", it goes against a lot of things that were great in the original game WHILE it was being advertised as a true remake of it
!!!!!!!! they did the Octopath thing!!!!!!!! damn I wish the whole remaster was like this, this is considerably more effort than I thought Square would give it.
@@CyricZ honestly, ff6 is my favorite in the series, and I've never understood how this is such a significant scene to the game lol. If anything, where I'd use this level of effort? The World being Reshaped by Kefka. Celes suicide attempt. Terra becoming an Esper and going berserk. The rest of the Espers attacking Vector. The use of the Light of Judgement.
@@manoharalisa5829 yes, but would a remaster randomly change graphic styles (it resembles 2DHD) at various points like this? No, the answer is no, it wouldn’t
I don't trust the current Square Enix to do it properly. The only way it could work is if they get Hironobu Sakaguchi involved. Otherwise I wouldn't be confident in a complete remake.
Oh man, I find your lack of auto-crossbow disturbing, but this was such a joy to watch. I had no idea the remaster took this far of a departure to better such an iconic scene.
@@esta7763 I'm complaining. It's the wrong lyrics. And yes, it matters. Oh my hero So far away now, Will I ever see your smile Love goes away From night into day It's just a fading dream I'm the darkness And you're the stars, Our love is brighter than the sun For eternity, for me there can be, only you, my chosen one. Must I forget you? Our solemn promise? Will autumn take the place of spring? What shall I do? I'm lost without you. Speak to me once more! We must part now. My life goes on. But my heart won't give you up. Ere I walk away, let me hear you say, I meant as much to you. So gently, you touched my heart. I will be forever yours. Come what may, I won't age a day, I'll wait for you, always.
@@esta7763 I say Aerith, but that argument is different. Her name was originally Aeris in the North American release. The _official_ game called her that, before they called her anything else in English. Either is really acceptable. But again, it's different. In the opera scene, they changed the lyrics of the song and thus changed the _meaning_ of the dialog. The story is different how ever so slight. Changing a characters name doesn't effect the story.
It warmed my heart so much to be playing this with my wife and oldest daughter watching (who is really big into theater right now), and when we got to the opera scene and the singing started, my daughter started crying she liked it so much. This has been my favorite game ever. It never got the love and attention it deserved, but I guess that's a good thing because just about everything since Chrono Trigger and FF7 have been underwhelming.
Even though the SNES had no voices, THESE were the voices I heard back then. Celes has got to be one of if not my favorite protagonist in all of Final Fantasy.
The line that really hit me in this scene wasn't in the SNES version. In the dressing room, when Celes asks Locke why he stood up for her, in the SNES version I played as a kid, Locke says he once abandoned someone when she needed him, and Celes says "Somewhere inside, you were saving her, weren't you?" Celes begins to understand Locke's guilt and shows empathy for him. But in the more accurate translation of the GBA and Pixel Remaster versions, Celes says "Am I just a replacement for her?" and Locke doesn't answer. It makes Celes so much more vulnerable- she isn't sure whether Locke really has feelings for her, or is just trying to make up for failing to save Rachel. And it makes her later actions much more understandable.
Apparently Uematsu said that this was an intentional design choice, since Celes wasn't a trained singer like Maria was, so her voice didn't have that vibrato quality that Maria's would have.
@@raetekusu1 If this was the case, then the singers in other languages wouldn't be as good as they are. This one specifically stands out as not being remotely operatic. The German singer is borderline professional.
@@Heymrk The Japanese version of Celes' aria also lacks vibrato. The Italian version sounds like someone who knows how to sing in tune but isn't trained for opera. As such, I'm gonna agree that the intent was to make Celes sound like an amateur to show she's clearly not an opera singer (though yes, this raises the question of how she was able to fool Setzer in the first place). On that though, props should be given to the performers because only someone who is really good can convincingly sound like an amateur (or out of tune) when required.
@@Heymrk lol in both versions, French and German, it's me singing and I am a trained opera singer ! They specifically asked that I didn't sound operatic, they wanted a more "musical Broadway" way of singing ☺
(This is an interpretation of the SNES scene lyrics.) Oh my hero You're so far now Will I ever see your smile? Our love fades away Like night into day As dreams fade for a while... I'm the darkness You're the starlight Our love outshines the sun For eternity For me there will be Just you, my chosen one... Must I break our solemn promise? Will the fall usurp the spring? Oh, what shall I do? I'm lost without you Speak, if just one more thing... We must part now Life continues But my heart still longs to see As I walk away Let me hear you say "You mean as much to me." Oh, so gently, My heart you touched I'm yours 'till the end of days And dear, come what may I shan't age a day I shall be yours always...
This was a masterful recreation, and having ACTUAL singing was shot directly to the feels, but it is spoiled a bit for me by not having the original lyrics. It wouldn't be as bad if the new lyrics reflected the old better.
I've been waiting ever since the PS1 came out. People don't understand the level of fairy tale geniuses they had working for Square and anime in general from the late 80s to the mid 90s. Starting with FF7, square loses its mind and becomes obsessed with emo pretty boys covered in belts and zippers and shit. Plots become convoluted garbage.
It caught me by surprise how much I appreciated the extra effort for the opera here. This was always a special part of this game. I'm glad to see the people at SquareEnix realize it too.
I wonder if they'll ever do a full remake in the style of Octopath. you never know.
@@GiordanDiodato since they did this one ...i would say no ? lol
they could've gotten people who could actually sing tho...
@@sasca854 This is done in 7 different languages, English one is by far the worst I think... But I suppose in a way this also makes sense because Celes is not a real aria singer so in that regard maybe English version is the most realistic
I played the original years back and eagerly waited for this scene...but i was not expecting ACTUAL singing. My jaw dropped, my eyes welled up.....this was so, so good.
I very rarely cry for anything, no matter how sad or emotional it is, but seeing new life being breathed into my childhood, to see this scene as beautiful as I imagined to be when I first played this game as a kid, that did it for me. I haven't cried like this in a long, long time.
They don’t even spoil it for you in the music box at the main menu, it says no vocals. Caught me by surprise
I agree. I love the new changes.
I had that awe factor too, but I wish it wasn't so auto-tuned :( She's SUPPOSED to be an amateur. Leave the jagged edges in.
Who else wants Uematsu to write a full scale opera based on the story here and perform it live plus have a version with the FF VI sprites.
It's not full scale but a rock version of Darkness and Starlight was in one of the Black Mages albums. III I think. It has the same bits plus the finale that was cut off in the game.
i think there is
I'm really surprised we haven't had a fully musical themed Final Fantasy done in the style of a rock opera
@@solblackguy If you've never heard it, listen to "The Impresario" by Jake Kaufman and Tommy Pedrini. It's as close as we'll get and it's SPOT-ON. Like Uematsu and Queen had a baby.
It must contain the Ultros and Locke dueling for Celes as well!
"I'm a GENERAL, not some opera floozy" glad to see they still stuck to the original dialogue
the little freakout she has before that line, too - extra points.
For someone so otherwise stoic and icy, turns out she's not so above it all.
How can a 28-year-old game still make me cry? Celes lines of the song at the time already was so emotional to me and now it's even more beautiful!
This version was the best of this scene and I love get chills from her singing every time!
i got so surprised with the 3d backgrounds. and when the voices came in for marias solo i started tearing up a bit. mightve not been old enough to experience this game 30 years ago but damn, this game means a lot to me.
100% Agree
Final Fantasy is the best video game franchise of all time ❤
This makes you cry? Wtf lol
30 years later...
I still tear up just the same as when i was the 16 year old kid, playing this for the first time.
This is the true Final Fantasy. The greatest one ever made.
The original one for SNES had no voice. And to hear this all those years later... brings tears to my eyes
Combine that with far better lyrics in the modern translations, and I'm a sobbing mess. It's just so beautiful.
Bro, it’s so cool to see they are remaking games I grew up with.
Idk, the original has a lot more feeling imo
Listening to it, my friend and I felt like we could make out the words (by reading the lyrics and listening to the sounds). We knew it wasn't the actual voices but it pushed the SNES to its limits and thus was just as moving. This was great hearing the actual singing but the SNES version will always be special.
@@Ebani it’s called nostalgia. I’ve heard both, i love the remaster version so much more. People say her singing is bad, but I really like it personally
I love that Celes didn't sound like an opera singer.
I just realized the scene where Celes throws the flowers off the side of the castle foreshadows a devastating moment much later in the story. What a well thought out masterpiece this game is. Hits you in the feels
Which one is that?
@@hanselbarlowe2575 Spoilers: In World of Ruin when she throws herself off the mountain.
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@@andreseh87Wait, you don’t have a choice to try to save a certain NPC?
@@dumazroy3462 You do have that chance.
I remember so clearly the first time I played this part. It was those 8-bit midi audio, and even then, you can even hear the lyrics as the music went.
With the remastered music and added lyrics, wow, my imagination of back then when I first heard it has come back into this remastered version.
*16-bit.
It wasn't 8-bit. It was 16 bit.
A masterpiece. Plain and simple.
Finished this game for the first time yesterday. This is one of the greatest video game sequences of all time. Period.
Haha, I always loved that part where you crash down onto the stage, and the impresario decides to wing it after the two male actors are accidentally knocked out.
Me too. Just got to that part yesterday and I'm finding all these little touches and subtext that I'm wholeheartedly enjoying, even more than the first time I played it.
I also caught a little moment in that same scene that somehow had eluded me for 30 years until my most recent playthrough! Locke accidentally breaks character in his improvised speech and calls Maria "Celes" by mistake XD
I love how while it's clear Celes isn't trained for this, that's the whole point as the goal was simply to draw out Setzer. She's NOT a trained opera singer, she's a general. But yet she still sounds beautiful in her own way, and it gives the scene charm that no other version of the game has, especially with the 2D-HD treatment for the scene. This is easily the BEST scene in the enitre series for me with the vocals and asthetics.
Edit: If I had known people were going to call me wrong AND stupid just for sharing my own opinion on the scene I wouldn't have said anything. I'm keeping this up for posterity but my god.
I highly doubt that this was intentional. She sounds like a real opera singer in all of the other languages… And the game implies that she pretty much nailed it.
@@Kbtoy789 you are right he is wrong.
Setzer would not have kidnapped her with such performance, he would notice it's a trap, besides she is a General no a simple soldier, I think she would be trained in different arts since childhood and would at least try to sound a bit like a real opera singer to caught Setzer.
I think it's likely intentional that she sounds untrained. The classic opera vibrato is unmistakable, and is a hallmark of the genre. It's actually a consequence of the singing technique and is not as controlled as one might think. In other words, an opera singer does not purposely sing with that amount of vibrato, it just happens. So if you don't hear that vibrato, the singer is not using "proper" technique. Though personally I find the amount of vibrato obnoxious even though it's "proper" lol
I think A lame excuse for it to sound so weird. Why can't she be a good singer and that be believable when people suplex trains and she is out there destroying gods and gigantic monsters from hell and she weighs 90 lbs.
The true beauty of Final Fantasy 6 is how they will make a really serious scene, follow it up with a crazy premise (Octopus Prince jumps the show) and then just roll with it. It's almost the same with Doma castle; You meet Cyan after the tragedy, but then he crashes the magitek armor through the nearby camp.
Who on Earth sang Draco and Ralse?? They were MAGNIFICENT!!!!!
If they actually had voice acting in this game, and had their little pixel-art mouths move to the words, it would easily be the coolest version of this game ever made
Modders get on it
The 2D version of the castle made my heart melt too
This whole game in particular DESERVED the Octopath treatment, not just this one scene!
Her mouth moves to the words in the original SNES version. It's so bizarre that Square Enix changed her mouth to be static in the Pixel Remaster, which is clearly a downgrade. I have to assume this was due to added multi-language support and the relative complexity (or laziness) of the dev team to make lip syncing work across each language.
@@lowhp_comic I think the part where you escape the Magitek Research Facility (when you're riding the mine cart) also gets the HD 2D treatment.
I remember picking the wrong lines on purpose just to see what Celes would say, it was hilarious
This is one of many reasons why Final Fantasy VI is a masterpiece. Its the best in all the series in my opinion.
100% Agreed..
It is, and I player every one of them.
This game needs a full remake.
@@macdealer7936 The director of ff7R said they want to do it but it might take 10 years bc of all the characters and complexity of the game
I never play this game, should I? And what is best version?
@@Horus-89 yes absolutely 👍
I dropped tears while listening to the unprofessional singing. So touching.
The amateur singing was definitely intentional. She's a soldier, not an opera star.
@@anthonyjackson3526 Exactly.
Though in spanish she really sounds as a professional 🤭🤭🤭. However, it is just magical in any language ❤
lol
You guys are hearing what you want to hear.
I like how her singing is kind of bad, because it sounds like someone that's never sang in her life singing for the first time, and that's the situation Celes was in.
Yeah, I agree with you.
Lol I thought it was great, both the male and female voice actors. I guess I am a complete amateur when it comes to musical appreciation. I know it was great because I started tearing up from the sheer beauty when celes starts singing. Just to me. I guess I am easy to please.
@@maxstone9999 is not that is actually bad, but celes singing sounds unprofessional on purpose and that hit me aswell in the feels. That's a level of effort i wasn't expecting.
Agreed.
She's very nasal. I don't like it. But then most western dubs are bad...
The best RPG that was ever Made in my Opinion.
Will never forget the first time i played... this part had me in tears...
That Waltz sounds amazing.
When people ask me why final fantasy 6 is my favorite game of all time I just show them the Opera scene and now with the pixel remaster they can actually hear the lyrics instead of just reading them.
God this game deserves a legit remaster
This game deserves an entire ground-up remake.
It deserved a remake more than FF7.
It sucks that they took down that watered down looking remake and made it look like this. So, I get to play through this again. I have played through multiple times and only ever beat the game on that ugly mobile remake. This game needs a full 3D remake. The characters look great in Opera Omnia, and look as if they could be in a remake looking like that.
Nah. I would be okay with more original games. I am excited for FF16.
@Raleigh Harris unfortunately Final Fantasy 7 has another mobile remake called Ever Crisis coming sometime this year. I did see a few fan made 3d Final Fantasy 6 remakes here on RUclips somewhere, which looks unique compared to this one. Most of these Square-Enix Final Fantasy pixel remakes has this awful lag issues aside from the fonts most fans including myself don't like, but the soundtrack sounds better than the original.
I was watching my friend play this yesterday. Before we got to the opera he said it was one of the best, if not the greatest, scenes in video game history. I honestly think the same. I damn near ugly cried watching this lol.
Had tears in my eyes when I got to this.
I was in tears and shocked at the same time.
Me too. Wow, this was amazing.
LOL HOW? The singing is so shit and out of tune.
@@RDR911 Maybe to you.
Wow, they went all-out. Really well-done. Love it. Was worth the few extra months of wait time.
rekt!
All tears and glory, and there's Ultros standing there with 1 ton weight
Once, just once I'd like to be able to watch this without crying... 😭
This has no business being this goddamn good.
Why couldn't all of the pixel remasters including this one have the same 2D sprite with 3D backgrounds. That made this scene so much better.
Because Square enix rather you pay for a mobile phone game that acts like a free to play.
I think it fits just great. The instrumentation is obviously top-notch, but she's not an opera singer...that's kind of the point.
Celes is not some opera floozy, she’s a general! 😆
But yet Setzer is blown away by her voice. Is he deaf?
In Spanish and other languages, they’ve used opera singers
@@linkfreak404 What are you guys talking about? It sounds fine.
@@brucewayne1777 Agree I liked it
I never realized all this time that using poison or bio blaster on the rats instead HEALS AND GIVES REGEN. That was terrifying to watch
God this whole part of the game would be fucking phenomenal if they did a full on remake. The whole game would be phenomenal. 7, 9 and 6 are the three I really want full remakes of.
I personally think this singing is the perfect example of the perfect/imperfect theory. It's not that great, which makes it perfect because it's more believable. In my mind, this is exactly how Celes sounds. They nailed it. It makes me want a remake even more...
Would definetely surpass Cloud's crossdressing scene if done right
@@sLasHeRxXx07 Okay you are the master of dry humor.
I played this last night, and the vocals gave me chills! Great addition to an already moving scene!
It makes you appreciate the world of balance, special if you know what the future has in hand for those characters.
Wow. This is great. I feel like if the whole game was redone with this effort it'd be amazing. This one part alond has Octopath vibes.
Bruh really said final fantasy 6, the game that inspired everything about octopath, has octopath vibes
I mean, it literally is the Octopath engine spliced in for this one scene.
That's because they used the HD/2D engine they created for Octopath for this one section. They are remaking their first game in this engine Live A Live (the first game made by the creator of chrono trigger but never released outside japan and often said to be one of the best rpgs)
They have said they plan to do more remakes in this engine so maybe this was a sorta test to see ow people would react to ff6? Was a crazy time for square then as FF6 - Live A Live - Chrono Trigger were all released one after another and I'd love for the other 2 to get a remake too .. can't wait for Live A Live tho
@@gishigoshi bruh really? he's clearly talking about the art style of this scene which is in fact remade in the octopath engine smh
@@MaximumCarnage- They're also remaking Dragon Quest III wiyh it as well.
I fast forward to the opera scene, even when it begins I tear up. I replayed the last parts over, and was in tears. Truly amazing! Final Fantasy Vi is one of the most amazing Final Fantasy games, one of the most amazing RPG games, and one of the most amazing video games ever created! 🎼🎵🎶
oh damn the aria di mezzo carattere has a voice now it's very nostalgic.
How can I cry like a baby at 08:40 ?
Damn it’s really hit me hard
wow I enjoyed listening to this part of the opera with voices it was very good
Why did they decide voices in these Lyrics? It was English singing and not Japanese signing.
Not counting Final Fantasy 7 Remake and the Dissidia games, adding actual voice actors to sing in this scene makes Celes the only playable party member character prior to Final Fantasy 10 that we now have a general idea what her speaking voice would sound like.
As soon as I heard “Insolent rogue” I knew the dude got paid
I actually find the originals audio to be far more impressive for the vocals, considering what they were working with
This version is by far the most beautiful one though
@@PLTgamer i agree
@@PLTgamer Completely subjective, the original has a lot more feeling imo bc they had to work without a way to convey it, yet achieved it nonetheless.
Of course. The original is ground breaking.
I was excited when I heard that they'd redone the music for the pixel remasters. Now I know people are nostolgic and some do prefer the original snes chiptune. However as someone who played this years after, and while listening to all the redone fan covers, I can safely say this is accurate to the original intent with the opera sequence. Its like taking all the best parts of some of the fan covers and reworking some of the live preformances done by Uematsu himself. The 2.5 D is also an interesting approach to a remaster of the game. I see many people saying they should have just done a staight 2d port, which I don't see much of a point in. There is already the gba version, the ios version, and the playstation version. There would literally be no point in another straight 2d port.
This is the only part of the game that has any 3D effect. The rest of the game is entirely 2D. I *wish* they would have spent the effort to do the whole game like this, but the rest of it's a pretty much a straight 2d port with a lot of bugs, incorrect (Narche is displayed as a generic cave on the world map in PR, unlike the original which showed a city in the mountains.) or shrunken sprites in some cases (due to being adapted to the GBA's small vertical resolution, which this PR based its sprites on. Makes some bosses look less imposing.) and really contrasting overworld tiles taken from the GBA version (which were brightened to almost looking neon to compensate the non-backlit LCD).
Also, some scenes and exchanges from the original Japanese SFC release were removed. Though, this has been the case for years... just, kind of disappointed that it's still happening in 2022.
@@StrikerTheHedgefox true, I meant this scene as a whole, rather the whole game. People keep throwing around demands for what they wanted from this port. I don't seem the point in the purist perspective. That being a port of the game with no changes, no updated Sprite or background work, or orchestrated ost. There are many ports that already exist to fill that purpose. The pixel remasters are interesting in that they can both keep the charm of the original while taking advantage of modern tech to enhance music and Sprite detail.
The singing is literally out of tune
@@RDR911 she's a general not a singer that's the whole point
@@RDR911 basic comprehension hard
Considering how much people love this sequence (and Robot Chicken's Wrath of Khan Opera), I think more people would love opera if they gave it a chance.
Wow. It's like they idealized a core memory of mine. I've always loved this scene.
This scene made a huge impact on me back when I was a kid playing this game (as 'Final Fantasy III') on SNES. One of the most magical musical moments in a game already FULL of magical music. At the time it had the greatest OST in video game history.
I genuinely want a full opera of this.
No one's gonna point out how the conductor isn't jittering frantically anymore? Good thing they fixed that, suits the harmonic nature of this part of the game
Wah didn't expect this version to have an improved opera scene! Beautiful 😍 I wish there's a remake though, would die happy if it happened 🙏
No they'd just screw it up like they did the FF 7 one I'm afraid. The pixel remaster is the only remake needed.
@@Ashgrom 7 remake was great, what are you talking about? Sure it was different in some areas, but it respects the original while doing its own thing which is great. If they were to remake this one they wouldn’t change anything like how they did 7
@@captainpep3 7 remake shits on the story lmfao
@@flint8291 doing it’s own thing is not the same as shitting on it, just because it’s different that doesn’t mean it I didn’t respect the original
@@captainpep3 It's not just "different", it goes against a lot of things that were great in the original game WHILE it was being advertised as a true remake of it
played through this scene the first time, got chills, masterfully done!
So people are saying 7:00 vocals are bad ? Why ?
!!!!!!!! they did the Octopath thing!!!!!!!! damn I wish the whole remaster was like this, this is considerably more effort than I thought Square would give it.
Awesome voice choosed. Perfect for this scene.
Honestly, this is just fine! It's a bit weird they went this far, but I appreciate it.
It's weird to me that they went this far is seemingly this one spot of the game.
@@ZenKrio If there was ever one spot of the entire Pixel Remaster series to go too far, it'd be here, the banner scene of the final game.
@@CyricZ honestly, ff6 is my favorite in the series, and I've never understood how this is such a significant scene to the game lol. If anything, where I'd use this level of effort?
The World being Reshaped by Kefka.
Celes suicide attempt.
Terra becoming an Esper and going berserk.
The rest of the Espers attacking Vector.
The use of the Light of Judgement.
@@CyricZ wait.. I know you! You're the guy in Gamefaqs that made the biggest guide for this game!
@@Moldy135 in that case shouldn't the suicide scene also have the same level of quality??
Super cool touch that her vocals aren't operatic at all, but very natural.
I still know the lyrics to this 30 years later.... Oh gosh I'm old. 😂
Damn, they got the budget to remake such an significant scene, too bad this only here and nowhere else
This is remaster not remake.
@@manoharalisa5829 yes, but would a remaster randomly change graphic styles (it resembles 2DHD) at various points like this? No, the answer is no, it wouldn’t
I love the work that went into the pixel remastered opera scene. Wonderful.
I love how they add voice on final fantasy vi pixel remaster opera it's really lovely voices👍👍
El mejor Final Fantasy que se ha hecho.
Imagine this in a remake version 😢
When I was younger I would say this. Now that I'm 42 I say you can't remake perfection.
@@joselombana8381 no you cannot but you can improve it. There’s always areas of improvement even in perfection
I don't trust the current Square Enix to do it properly. The only way it could work is if they get Hironobu Sakaguchi involved. Otherwise I wouldn't be confident in a complete remake.
Also for whatever reason, the music for the Ultros battle brings to mind Aram Khatchaturian's "Sabre Dance"
This exceeded my expectations
Oh man, I find your lack of auto-crossbow disturbing, but this was such a joy to watch. I had no idea the remaster took this far of a departure to better such an iconic scene.
I was yelling "USE THE FUCKING AUTOCROSSBOW" all the time during the rats part lol
Yeah I was spazzing out when he was just using bioblast and shit.
Geez that was beautiful 😢
This one scene is literally the biggest reason I bought the pixel remaster.
That and FF6 is my favorite game of the NES/SNES era Final Fantasy titles.
It's the best game ever made.
What are people complaining about?
I think this is amazing. And Celes is my favourite character.
Locke is my favorite character in FF period, Celes is right up there
People complained? I thought this was really really good.
@@esta7763 I'm complaining.
It's the wrong lyrics. And yes, it matters.
Oh my hero
So far away now,
Will I ever see your smile
Love goes away
From night into day
It's just a fading dream
I'm the darkness
And you're the stars,
Our love is brighter than the sun
For eternity,
for me there can be,
only you, my chosen one.
Must I forget you?
Our solemn promise?
Will autumn take the place of spring?
What shall I do?
I'm lost without you.
Speak to me once more!
We must part now.
My life goes on.
But my heart won't give you up.
Ere I walk away,
let me hear you say,
I meant as much to you.
So gently,
you touched my heart.
I will be forever yours.
Come what may,
I won't age a day,
I'll wait for you, always.
@@herranton Do you say Aeris or Aerith?
@@esta7763 I say Aerith, but that argument is different. Her name was originally Aeris in the North American release. The _official_ game called her that, before they called her anything else in English. Either is really acceptable.
But again, it's different.
In the opera scene, they changed the lyrics of the song and thus changed the _meaning_ of the dialog. The story is different how ever so slight. Changing a characters name doesn't effect the story.
YALL MUST GO LISTEN TO THE ITALIAN VERSION I WAS IN SHOCK WHEN THEY STARTED SINGING IN ITALIAN IN MY PLAYTHROUGH
Curtains open at 3:17
Celes goes on at 6:40
6:39 30 years later and I just noticed this sounds like Aerith's theme.
Same here! I was scrolling through looking for this comment
It's the other way around.
It warmed my heart so much to be playing this with my wife and oldest daughter watching (who is really big into theater right now), and when we got to the opera scene and the singing started, my daughter started crying she liked it so much. This has been my favorite game ever. It never got the love and attention it deserved, but I guess that's a good thing because just about everything since Chrono Trigger and FF7 have been underwhelming.
Wow. A dream just came true.
Beautiful. It is so magnificent to finally see and hear Tom Slattery's masterful translation in a fully voiced version. Square Enix did well.
Even though the SNES had no voices, THESE were the voices I heard back then. Celes has got to be one of if not my favorite protagonist in all of Final Fantasy.
The line that really hit me in this scene wasn't in the SNES version.
In the dressing room, when Celes asks Locke why he stood up for her, in the SNES version I played as a kid, Locke says he once abandoned someone when she needed him, and Celes says "Somewhere inside, you were saving her, weren't you?" Celes begins to understand Locke's guilt and shows empathy for him.
But in the more accurate translation of the GBA and Pixel Remaster versions, Celes says "Am I just a replacement for her?" and Locke doesn't answer. It makes Celes so much more vulnerable- she isn't sure whether Locke really has feelings for her, or is just trying to make up for failing to save Rachel.
And it makes her later actions much more understandable.
That IS a good point. I never put two and two together with this dialogue and later events in the story.
They did such an amazing job with this!!!! In the original i kinda dreaded this part. In the remaster, i had chills.
I hated Celes' new singing at first too, but within the context of the whole scene it's not as bad as I thought.
Apparently Uematsu said that this was an intentional design choice, since Celes wasn't a trained singer like Maria was, so her voice didn't have that vibrato quality that Maria's would have.
@@raetekusu1 If this was the case, then the singers in other languages wouldn't be as good as they are. This one specifically stands out as not being remotely operatic. The German singer is borderline professional.
@@Heymrk The Japanese version of Celes' aria also lacks vibrato. The Italian version sounds like someone who knows how to sing in tune but isn't trained for opera. As such, I'm gonna agree that the intent was to make Celes sound like an amateur to show she's clearly not an opera singer (though yes, this raises the question of how she was able to fool Setzer in the first place).
On that though, props should be given to the performers because only someone who is really good can convincingly sound like an amateur (or out of tune) when required.
The actual orchestra makes up for it though
@@Heymrk lol in both versions, French and German, it's me singing and I am a trained opera singer ! They specifically asked that I didn't sound operatic, they wanted a more "musical Broadway" way of singing ☺
(This is an interpretation of the SNES scene lyrics.)
Oh my hero
You're so far now
Will I ever see your smile?
Our love fades away
Like night into day
As dreams fade for a while...
I'm the darkness
You're the starlight
Our love outshines the sun
For eternity
For me there will be
Just you, my chosen one...
Must I break our
solemn promise?
Will the fall usurp the spring?
Oh, what shall I do?
I'm lost without you
Speak, if just one more thing...
We must part now
Life continues
But my heart still longs to see
As I walk away
Let me hear you say
"You mean as much to me."
Oh, so gently,
My heart you touched
I'm yours 'till the end of days
And dear, come what may
I shan't age a day
I shall be yours always...
FUCKING AMAZING!!! I remember this Scene when my uncle played it! Goddamn do I love this!!
I may not disagree with the sprites and the text font, but the almost-use of the HD-2D style for the opera scene is phenomenal
If only they put this much effort of detail into the rest of the remake.
Now the Impresario has to get someone to write the characters and hire actors to play Locke and Setzer in part two.
Interesting fact. Since they are using actual singers here, the lyrics here are the ones that are used when the opera songs are performed in concerts.
Just crying like a baby over here NBD
I was really excited about this.
This was a masterful recreation, and having ACTUAL singing was shot directly to the feels, but it is spoiled a bit for me by not having the original lyrics. It wouldn't be as bad if the new lyrics reflected the old better.
I just saw this for the first time in my life the other day and wow was it stunning I knew the music I have the tune on my phone
The soundtrack of this game uses orchestral music, which is amazing
Oh, Ultros... May you never change!
Well, the music sounds better than the SNES version, but I know I'm not the only one that thinks it sounds better without actual words.
god tier voice acting. it was so perfect
Ficou show a ópera!! 👏🏽 Jogo bonito!!
I can't wait for Final Fantasy VI Remake. 😍😍
I've been waiting ever since the PS1 came out. People don't understand the level of fairy tale geniuses they had working for Square and anime in general from the late 80s to the mid 90s. Starting with FF7, square loses its mind and becomes obsessed with emo pretty boys covered in belts and zippers and shit. Plots become convoluted garbage.
"It's enough to make a grown man cry"
Great to relive some great memories from 1994 and in higher resolution! 🙂
God I hope they remake the entire game in the 2D-3D style like Octopath someday.
Played it in 1995, had some pipi in my eyes, loved the game :D Well done :)