Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | Episode 53

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  • Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024

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  • @drag0nerd
    @drag0nerd Год назад +3282

    “Oh, Trunks.. you can’t fathom the amount of dead men behind me..” is my number one reason for loving Taka’s cell. Absolutely brutal and chilling every single time.

    • @Fx2real
      @Fx2real Год назад +44

      The video has been up for 2 minutes as of now and the moment you have been quoting is well over 10 minutes into the video, so you have been waiting for the upload and mentally recalling one of the scenes and insta commenting that scene once it dropped. Seek help

    • @Vivi_9
      @Vivi_9 Год назад +156

      ​@@Fx2realI mean yes he did that but you calling him out makes you look unhinged and more in need of help tbh

    • @parisbower6939
      @parisbower6939 Год назад

      @@Fx2realget a load of Mr. No Fun over here

    • @Fx2real
      @Fx2real Год назад +4

      ​@@Vivi_9how so

    • @ItsWindHere
      @ItsWindHere Год назад

      ​@@Fx2real Jesus dude, don't be a dick. You calling him out is so weird lol

  • @MattCraftDotDerp
    @MattCraftDotDerp Год назад +1524

    Krillin & Vegeta talking like people is what eventually led to "I'm going to PTA meetings... and Krillin's movie nights! Listen to me Kakarot, I'M USING HIS FUCKING NAME!"

    • @floricel_112
      @floricel_112 Год назад +62

      seriously, KRILLIN is Vegeta's best buddy. HE WAS ACTUALLY WORRIED WHEN HE SUICIDE BOMBED BUU!

    • @CommandantLuna
      @CommandantLuna Год назад +97

      @@RekuzanIt implies that even BEFORE Goku picked up the pho… Er… Asked King Kai to transmit him, Vegeta was already hallucinating Goku’s voice. Makes me wonder what he heard and how often he laid awake at night missing the Best Buddy that he despises 🤣

    • @hamshankscps1049
      @hamshankscps1049 Год назад +40

      ​@@CommandantLunaI assume Goku was talking to him through King Kai just to fuck with Vegeta

    • @BlueDragonKnight77
      @BlueDragonKnight77 Год назад +49

      @@hamshankscps1049 Fucking with people doesn't really sound like Goku though, I mean, at least not intentionally

    • @jjjjjaabari313
      @jjjjjaabari313 Год назад +35

      Also foreshadowing the therapist thing in this episode too

  • @Jack-sy8mr
    @Jack-sy8mr Год назад +1648

    Corinne’s delivery of “But he’s just a baby?..or right the future one..but he’s just a _baby_ “
    Is phenomenal

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia Год назад +147

      Megami from start to end is the most impressive, imo. She went from the epitome of adequate cheap Internet parody voice to absolute professional-obviously everyone else reached that level by season 3 at the latest, but Corinne made the biggest jump in improvement.

    • @Jeremo-FD
      @Jeremo-FD Год назад +22

      One of my favorite line reads of the whole series.

    • @commandrubix239
      @commandrubix239 Год назад +12

      @@warlordofbritanniaI honestly hope she gets big roles in the future

    • @gabeskai
      @gabeskai Год назад +62

      ​@@commandrubix239oh she has! She was Momonosuke in the English dub of One Piece!

    • @RevyaAeinsett
      @RevyaAeinsett Год назад +6

      ​@@gabeskaiHonestly, I kinda hate that. Not because she did a bad job or anything, I just really dislike listening to him.

  • @Vesperitis
    @Vesperitis Год назад +455

    The bluntness of both “That you let him die” and “I’m going to power up now” is literal textbook screenwriting.

    • @Vesperitis
      @Vesperitis Год назад +75

      @@TheRealMycanthrope They’re simple. There’s no excess, nothing that needs to be added, nothing that can be taken away, and they cut to the core of the characters.

    • @AnIdiotsLantern
      @AnIdiotsLantern 6 месяцев назад +3

      Producers have paid millions for scripts that didn’t contain writing this good. Watching this behind the scenes on Cell specifically is fascinating, because Cell doesn’t need to throw a punch to hurt. He can cut them deep using just his words. This is a brilliant decision and it makes his fights dangerous on a whole other level

  • @samuelzuleger5134
    @samuelzuleger5134 Год назад +1216

    That last scene, with Krillin and Vegeta, is so touching. It shows that there might be the potential of a friendship there.
    Hell, Vegeta might actually show up to Krillin's barbeques and even use his name one day. Granted, he'll bring potato salad, but still...

    • @windhelmguard5295
      @windhelmguard5295 Год назад +88

      bold of you to assume vegeta knows how to make a dish that isn't 100% dead animal.
      like pretty sure the only thing we have seen vegeta cooking was arlean bug people.
      also quick question: would saibamen be considered vegan?

    • @fadran11
      @fadran11 Год назад +141

      Kid Trunks: Uncle Krillin!
      Krillin: Aw, hey Trunksie!
      Vegeta: Uncle *WHO???* That bald midget isn't my bro -
      Krillin with hair:
      Vegeta: ...Goddammit

    • @brachialtick6539
      @brachialtick6539 Год назад

      ​@@windhelmguard5295we found the guy who haven't watched the buu bits or totally not mark's buu part 1 review featuring said bits.

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia Год назад +81

      @@windhelmguard5295
      Vegeta brought store-bought potato salad

    • @KS-vj2ln
      @KS-vj2ln Год назад +20

      He got one of Bulma's chefs to make it@@warlordofbritannia

  • @fireironthesecond2909
    @fireironthesecond2909 Год назад +830

    Idk if this is intentional but Cell refers to himself as a “gift horse”
    Goku later tells Gohan to “eat that horse” before he kills Cell

    • @nousername191
      @nousername191 Год назад +140

      Looking at a gift horse as an immediate meal is such a Goku thing to do.

    • @WeaponMasterJedi
      @WeaponMasterJedi Год назад +91

      Technically Goku referenced eating a horse previously as well. When he told Vegeta about the Hypersonic Liontamer.

    • @twenty-fifth420
      @twenty-fifth420 Год назад +42

      @@WeaponMasterJediTHAT ONE WAS ON PURPOSE!

    • @chuchulainn9275
      @chuchulainn9275 Год назад +32

      "The stakes have never been higher!... and before you say it the prize isn't actually steak."

    • @ProShidder
      @ProShidder Год назад +26

      ​@@chuchulainn9275 _"THEN WHAT IS IT YOU MONSTER?!?"_

  • @mysteryninja354
    @mysteryninja354 Год назад +844

    24:00 to Lani's point that Cell deciding not to kill trunks is the inference of the scene:
    Trunks says "No one will remember you". And Cell decides to let him live *for* the sake of "You. *You* will remember. I'll kill everyone you came to save, cripple you, and then when you're left broken in body in spirit, throw you back in your time machine, and let you be the sole survivor of *another* timeline."

  • @sumeracarnatia6997
    @sumeracarnatia6997 Год назад +417

    I just got the neat idea that Krillin’s slow shift to a kinder person wasn’t just because of Maron putting him in debt and himself wanting to be good to 18, but also because of Gohan. Spending over a month in space with a (mostly) innocent and cheerful kid and the child of the guy who considers him his best friend.

    • @creeperkiller78
      @creeperkiller78 Год назад +54

      That and being one of the few people to die twice is gonna cause you to revaluate your life

    • @doctorsnakeeater1997
      @doctorsnakeeater1997 11 месяцев назад +32

      ​@@creeperkiller78It's almost akin to some sort of enlightenment, which fits considering he's modeled after a Buddhist monk.

  • @ryanchase9332
    @ryanchase9332 Год назад +920

    One of my favorite lines in the series:
    "Uh huh. And how do you think I GOT said time machine?"
    "...I don't wanna answer that."

    • @DirectorOfChaos9292
      @DirectorOfChaos9292 Год назад

      See here's the thing: Multiverse Theory' a bitch.

    • @taptiotrevizo9415
      @taptiotrevizo9415 Год назад +84

      The best part you can see the realization in trunks eyes

    • @CaptainCFalcon
      @CaptainCFalcon Год назад +1

      ​@@taptiotrevizo9415*_EXACTLY!_* Not enough people talk about that! It's fucking *_chilling_* when you see it.

    • @neodav00001
      @neodav00001 Год назад +71

      Even before that, the slight deflation and change in tone on "...Less than I should..." does a lot of work and does it very subtly. He doesn't know exactly where Cell's going with that, but he knows that he was missing something, and it was going to be really bad.

    • @Zacman1123
      @Zacman1123 Год назад +7

      ​@@taptiotrevizo9415that part gets me everytime.

  • @Danmarinja
    @Danmarinja Год назад +731

    Scott is 100% right about comedy writing standards nowadays. So many writers are afraid of commitment and end up using the jokes they've seen before instead of creating anything original for the scene.

    • @tutumazibuko2510
      @tutumazibuko2510 Год назад +24

      Eh, Team Four Star is no stranger to doing this either. I get Scott's frustration but he's seriously generalizing if he thinks thinks this is plaguing ALL of modern comedies and dramedies

    • @CrownofMischief
      @CrownofMischief Год назад +93

      ​@@tutumazibuko251012:10 he doesn't say ALL, he says "a lot"

    • @Smung
      @Smung Год назад +35

      ​@@John-gl6thmade me think of MCU comedy writing

    • @Ahturos
      @Ahturos Год назад +10

      @@John-gl6th Depends what you watch. I watch tons of Disney productions and I think they have done that type of jokes a lot in both live action movies to cartoon series. It´s annoying when they show up, but there are some other type of jokes today that are good.

    • @lilbirdmuse8938
      @lilbirdmuse8938 Год назад +3

      @@Rekuzanhow are they still on the moon after it’s been blown up twice? XD

  • @vlahakisnick
    @vlahakisnick Год назад +432

    To defend Kaiser. You guys had already referenced that Cell wanted to do the tournament when he became perfect. He sang the line "R for revolution, which will be televised." Implying that he knew what he wanted to do. And he even said, after Trunks asks him what he is planning, "My Revolution." So now he is getting to that part that he illuded to from the second he became perfect

    • @sleeplessknight00
      @sleeplessknight00 Год назад +6

      I was going to make that same point. You beat me to it. Good job!

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 Год назад +33

      Indeed; or, it could be he knew that his previous feasts were making the news, so was generally planning to take his time destroying the world and let it be televised as he was doing it- but the idea for the tournament instead coalesced around fighting some strong people (or just Goku) when he had the realization.
      i.e., Cell wanted to show of his PERFECTION, but hadn't really decided _how_ he would do it.

    • @Kakarot94-j2z
      @Kakarot94-j2z Год назад

      F is for how fucked you are now allow me to repriiiiise

    • @minibotas9496
      @minibotas9496 Год назад +12

      My headcannon is that Cell had the idea of televising his power somewhere in his mind, but Trunk’s comment convinced him to go ahead and do it, since the boy had a point, how are the people going to remember him if he does not kill Earth’s greatest heroes in front of a camera, for everyone to see?

    • @felixLucretius
      @felixLucretius Год назад +1

      This was always my interpretation!

  • @Ulises_The_Jackal
    @Ulises_The_Jackal Год назад +308

    "Just get it over with and kill me already." Is such an underrated line, you can just feel how tired and heartbroken Trunks is. How he's done everything in his power to help these people escape a horrible future, but his own allies won't listen, and have done the exact opposite. Now he too can't save them, and is just ready to die right then and there.

    • @ShadowKamehameha32
      @ShadowKamehameha32 Год назад +74

      Not only that, but HE also failed in his mission by hiding his USSJ power from Vegeta, because he didn't want to hurt his fathers pride.
      He literally put his fathers pride over saving the Earth.

    • @althelor
      @althelor Год назад +59

      Also the realization that not only has he failed to protect everyone, but that him trying to help has made things so much worse.

    • @kylethecherry-nosesanalite1723
      @kylethecherry-nosesanalite1723 Год назад +44

      It really is such an emotional line. Up until this point, Trunks' entire character has been about hope, a determination to fight against this horrid reality that he's been exposed to. At every turn, he's failed and seen things get even worse.
      Finally, in this moment, you can see where he just gives up. It's chilling.

    • @JohnnySeptum
      @JohnnySeptum Год назад +12

      @@kylethecherry-nosesanalite1723 which makes cell your suffering isn't over yet type attitude with the tournament just chilling

  • @Ulises_The_Jackal
    @Ulises_The_Jackal Год назад +536

    "Goku had defeated an entire army, several demons, and sent a rabbit to the moon!"
    "D- Did you make that last one up"
    My favorite line of the episode 😂

    • @cameronjadewallace
      @cameronjadewallace Год назад +74

      My automatic response to that question is always "no... no, that really happened. I watched it. It was very weird."

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia Год назад +62

      Early Dragon Ball is one helluva drug

    • @daltonwilliams1723
      @daltonwilliams1723 Год назад +66

      I started watching early DB and it’s amazing how early that happens. Embodiment of “is it really jumping the shark if you never come back down?”

    • @ianrastoski3346
      @ianrastoski3346 Год назад +29

      ​@@daltonwilliams1723or how about "you can't jump the shark, if you're already riding it!"

    • @AutumnOwlex
      @AutumnOwlex Год назад +3

      ​@ianrastoski3346 this might be one of my favorite lines period.

  • @imaloony8
    @imaloony8 Год назад +271

    For those unaware, Lani has continued to do his Creator Commentary for Yu Yu Hakusho Abridged over on his personal channel, and he mentioned that if those commentary videos get enough views and likes that he might continue YYHA. So get over there and glue your eyeballs to the screen! We can get The Dark Tournament lads!

    • @Ak5h1t
      @Ak5h1t Год назад +5

      holy freakin moly!!! for realzies???

    • @Bowiiihowdy
      @Bowiiihowdy Год назад +2

      Between the buu bits and this I wonder if we can get the buu saga

    • @edwardnygma8533
      @edwardnygma8533 Год назад +2

      Bro, I'm floored. I know what I'm binging now.

    • @Muneeb_Ahmad87
      @Muneeb_Ahmad87 Год назад

      he is an asshole to taka in every one of these vids

    • @LivingGuy484
      @LivingGuy484 Год назад +8

      ​@@Alvinia101he seemed alright in this one, do you have a different video to reference where he was a jerk?

  • @nickkurtz512
    @nickkurtz512 Год назад +701

    “I’m not a psychopath-“
    “Kind of like you!”
    “Like me?”
    “Does Gohan know by the way?”
    “Does he know what?”
    “That you let him die.”
    MHMMMMMM STILL gives me chills down my spine!

    • @regitriotrio5656
      @regitriotrio5656 Год назад +32

      ITS SO DAMN GOOD. The lines are perfect. The loud droning getting louder until the crash of a wave. It's beautiful and sinister.

    • @nickkurtz512
      @nickkurtz512 Год назад +27

      @@regitriotrio5656The pregnant pause by the crashing wave was prefect to the tension like ‘Oh you son of a bitch, Gohan was trying to protect him. Time to throw down you humanoid cockroach!’

    • @regitriotrio5656
      @regitriotrio5656 Год назад +13

      ​@nickkurtz512 Absolutely. It's even more infuriating for us because we know Trunks doesn't stand a chance. No matter how much he wants to take out cell especially for that he can't.

    • @Scrumbumbler
      @Scrumbumbler Год назад +2

      Someone time stamp it for me 🥺🥺🥺

    • @nickkurtz512
      @nickkurtz512 Год назад +3

      @@Scrumbumbler5:13

  • @monsterking7676
    @monsterking7676 Год назад +253

    I wonder if Cell constantly trying to be friends with 16 is in his DNA/programming because Dr.Gero would have wanted all of his creations to treat the one modeled after his son like a friend.

    • @Bowiiihowdy
      @Bowiiihowdy Год назад +22

      It's possible

    • @InfernoCleric384
      @InfernoCleric384 Год назад +22

      It could be the A̶n̶d̶r̶o̶i̶d̶s̶Cyborgs influencing him.

    • @Talimara1
      @Talimara1 Год назад +30

      I choose to believe it’s a combination of programming and absorbing the androids that did it. He barely acknowledges 16 in his imperfect form, a little more in his semi-perfect form, but once he’s gotten both he’s actively trying to be nice.

  • @Ulises_The_Jackal
    @Ulises_The_Jackal Год назад +211

    "Look at me, I'm trunks, please love me dAaD. See anyone can do it "
    "That's a terrible impression."
    *"BUT NOT INNACURATE!"*
    I love broken 16 😂

    • @lcc2348
      @lcc2348 6 месяцев назад +6

      "WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE?!"

  • @bodbyss
    @bodbyss Год назад +190

    I do like the idea that Krillin is humbled through the series, causing him to be a kinder person. It's because he gained perspective.

    • @mikegates8993
      @mikegates8993 Год назад +28

      It kind of makes me want to see them do something that flashes back to OG Dragon Ball and show Krillin being even more of a dick than Vegeta ever was.

    • @NinjaPieceLOL
      @NinjaPieceLOL Год назад +33

      @@mikegates8993 That would line up nicely with the original series. Krillin was a dick when we first meet him.

    • @relic5752
      @relic5752 Год назад

      ​@@mikegates8993I don't know if it's possible for a bratty kid to be worse than a 30 year old with several genocides under his belt

  • @filmkuwain5740
    @filmkuwain5740 Год назад +218

    I love that Kaiser hates the trope of writers where they have to make fun of their dialogue to avoid being genuine. It’s way to common now a days.

    • @AnIdiotsLantern
      @AnIdiotsLantern 6 месяцев назад +2

      It shows a lack of faith in their own writing. They’re afraid to show how invested they are, because caring makes you vulnerable. But if you, the writer, don’t care about your own creation, how can you expect anyone else to? And in a comedy especially, if you don’t CARE then what’s the point?

  • @MagickRhino
    @MagickRhino Год назад +338

    When they started talking about “average” or first-pass jokes making it into the final script, all I could think about was the “Idiot Rock/Idiot Crater” joke from earlier in the season. They all mentioned that they weren’t particularly proud of it, but it’s one of my favorite jokes in the show. Sometimes a joke just hits right for an individual and it’s a fools errand to try and predict (or preemptively lampshade) the audience reaction to it

    • @sputnikdx
      @sputnikdx Год назад +23

      I thought immediately to the routine of Piccolo delivering bad one liners and them making fun of those. If that's what they're talking about, they do it themselves and I love it. I didn't get any of their examples though since I haven't watched Rick and/or Morty.

    • @Sfyft
      @Sfyft Год назад +2

      @@sputnikdxYeah and I find it a little hypocritical of them talking about how they don't like jokes followed by sassy remarks about how bad said joke was when they themselves do it as well. Hell they do it later on in episode 59 when Cell destroys the platform and Krillin jokes about how there is a hole in the ring followed by Gohan saying: "really?"

    • @MSCDonkeyKong
      @MSCDonkeyKong Год назад

      I also loved idiot rock/idiot crater

    • @MSCDonkeyKong
      @MSCDonkeyKong Год назад +12

      @@Sfyft But Krillin doing it is a part of his established personality. It's okay to have one or two characters call out that kind of shit when it's in character and not overused to hell and back to the point where there's no sincerity.
      The problem is modern comedy stuff ends up doing it literally all the fucking time with literally every character, meaning there's NO room for sincerity and NO room to pull off lines that actually work in context.

    • @Sfyft
      @Sfyft Год назад +1

      @@MSCDonkeyKong But they put it as if they're above using those kind of jokes when that is clearly not the case, it doesn't matter the context, and that's where I have a problem with. Again it's not a deal breaker for me and I still really enjoy most of their jokes in the show but just that nitpick.

  • @bgvo4373
    @bgvo4373 Год назад +565

    It’s amazing how much Cell was holding back here.
    Also, Cell confirming Vegeta could do what Trunks did doesn’t change that Vegeta was utterly humiliated.

    • @Mordecrox
      @Mordecrox Год назад +50

      Just throwing heavy shade, don't humiliate yourself further, the Prince of All Clowns does not like competition

    • @demi-femme4821
      @demi-femme4821 Год назад +58

      "Vegeta is an absolute buffon and even HE wasn't going to try that.

    • @haydentravis3348
      @haydentravis3348 Год назад +46

      After witnessing his dad royally fuck up and losing all respect for the man, Trunks then gets slapped in the face with the, "well, actually, he was still smarter than you."

    • @michaeldaniels642
      @michaeldaniels642 Год назад +13

      It doesn't change Vegeta's humiliation but, it does make Trunks' worse.

    • @hustler666100
      @hustler666100 Год назад

      they state a few times in the anime buu saga particularly when revived he is a better battle technician than Goku. not sure about the manga. He knew the form was useless and tbf he nearly killed cell with his final flash@@demi-femme4821

  • @SeanLaMontagne
    @SeanLaMontagne Год назад +117

    Killin saying "Dude its just me" to Vegeta gives big Team 3 Star energy

  • @degeneration2xtreme
    @degeneration2xtreme Год назад +123

    "Because I deserve *SOMETHING* today!!" Gets me literally every time.

  • @A-Oh-Trey
    @A-Oh-Trey Год назад +117

    It's a small moment, but the "that still doesn't make us friends." "I'M TRYING, 16!" exchange between 16 and Cell gets me every time. I like the idea that as much of an unremorseful villain as Cell is, he still would want to attempt to bond with his last remaining sibling (he hasn't taken out yet).

  • @baylaust
    @baylaust Год назад +220

    So obviously the "dead men" quote gets a lot of love, but I think the little exchange between Trunks and Cell before they throw down deserves some more love.
    "You're just a child playing hero... complete with spandex."
    "And you're just another mistake that I have to correct!"

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia Год назад +27

      I see that too; Cell is here just for fun at this point, but Trunks has that strong sense of responsibility even for things that aren’t his fault (presumably due to being the last hope from his timeline). That’s both childishly idealistic but also genuinely heroic.

    • @hyperboliccancers3269
      @hyperboliccancers3269 Год назад

      Nah, those lines are cringe. DBZA should be a parody not a rewrite.

    • @kogadragneel5601
      @kogadragneel5601 Год назад

      ​@@hyperboliccancers3269 "ThIs LiNeS aRe CrInGe" says the one dropping cringe lines on this video, seriously dude, what's going on with you today? You need attention maybe? I hope you're satisfied now.

    • @jaredohlstein7355
      @jaredohlstein7355 Год назад

      Yeah that dialogue is underrated

    • @BlusterTheBenevolent
      @BlusterTheBenevolent Год назад

      @@hyperboliccancers3269I think YOU’RE cringe.

  • @seekersearcher9519
    @seekersearcher9519 Год назад +175

    The way Taka makes a joke and quickly looks for approval and praise 😂

  • @LovesMJ4ever
    @LovesMJ4ever Год назад +170

    “Go Unreasonably buff bird!” And “What channel?” 16 is the best 😂😂😂

  • @dtjackson1647
    @dtjackson1647 Год назад +206

    Krillin trying to cheer Vegeta up by talking about how terrible his life is is so adorable, like an adult trying to make a toddler laugh by pretending to accidentally trip and fall.

    • @JMSM84
      @JMSM84 Год назад +10

      It was truly the moment where they got Krillin.

  • @TheInkTank
    @TheInkTank Год назад +49

    5:38 "Initially we had the initial conversation about how you wanted Cell to really come across initially" is the best quote

  • @MattsYTHandle
    @MattsYTHandle Год назад +321

    "What channel?!" is probably the hardest I'd laughed at a TFS joke up to that point 😂 Simple but brilliant

    • @orangeapples
      @orangeapples Год назад +12

      Some of the best jokes just make you mad with how funny they are.
      “Goddamnit 16! This is a dramatic moment, but that was perfect.”

    • @DrunkenGrognard
      @DrunkenGrognard Год назад +9

      It's the tonal contrast with (gestures vaguely at everything else in episode)

    • @AusSP
      @AusSP Год назад +2

      All of them.

  • @tsg_frank5829
    @tsg_frank5829 Год назад +80

    I absolutely love how incredibly devastating this encounter between Cell and Trunks is, Cell is utterly dominating him, showing no respect, laughing in his face and reminding him of his failures and shortcomings, dissecting him piece by piece all for the sake of his own amusement, it is so good to watch and elevated by the delivery of Taka and Kaiser.

  • @VGAfanatic
    @VGAfanatic Год назад +455

    The thing that makes Tien's frustration at Trunks' power-up more upsetting for him is that, at the time, neither of them knew he couldn't kill anyone with this form.

    • @UnleashthePhury
      @UnleashthePhury Год назад +80

      Trunks could’ve killed semi perfect cell even without powering up to Super Saiyan Buff Bird

    • @Arachninja752
      @Arachninja752 Год назад +45

      ​@@UnleashthePhuryConsidering Trunks was already way faster than Semi Perfect Cell though, that might have been the best time to use that form. He's fast enough that the speed debuff wouldn't have been as much of a detriment, and the extra power would let him wipe him out in fewer hits. He probably could've killed Semi Perfect Cell way more quickly, maybe even before he absorbed 18.

    • @Zacman1123
      @Zacman1123 Год назад +2

      ​@@Arachninja752if cell didn't blind everyone

    • @Arachninja752
      @Arachninja752 Год назад +8

      @@Zacman1123 Yeah, I'm essentially saying maybe Trunks could've killed Cell before he thought to do that

    • @ingydegmar2060
      @ingydegmar2060 Год назад +3

      Goku could have teleported the androids to king kai, or the android killing remote to 18, or teleport cell away.

  • @Cristian-ih8qz
    @Cristian-ih8qz Год назад +53

    making cell have the epiphany of the fact that nobody would have remembered him and thus deciding to put up the tournament, was the right decision IMHO. It's so cathartic.

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 Год назад +5

      Of course, the "I'll have a tournament, then blow up the world" seems kinda self-defeating to the "make people remember me" plan.

  • @ryandosch2698
    @ryandosch2698 Год назад +81

    "You know, if I had a watch, I'd be looking at my wrist *really* condescendingly right now..." has become something I say almost daily. such a good line...

  • @alexsmith3598
    @alexsmith3598 Год назад +102

    My favorite line I think is "No, if I were having fun, I'd be killing Goku." "That still doesn't make us friends!" "I'M TRYING, 16!!"

  • @Snapdragon0112
    @Snapdragon0112 Год назад +312

    I love Taka having all his dreams crushed slowly through this series. “Wait. I didn’t write that line.” It’s like Goku asking King Kai if he created the Kaio-Ken. I love that man. He is hilarious and I quote everything he says.

    • @Gol.D-Roger
      @Gol.D-Roger Год назад +13

      @@stompballswith you on that one :/

    • @JJJBunney001
      @JJJBunney001 Год назад +31

      He's much better than he used to be, go watch their old commentary and every interrupt was just him screaming

    • @TheWeary101
      @TheWeary101 Год назад +49

      Damn *evaporates*

    • @Snapdragon0112
      @Snapdragon0112 Год назад +20

      @@TheWeary101
      Sorry to have apparently attracted a lot of hate to you. Love your work.

    • @isabelracine1066
      @isabelracine1066 Год назад +3

      I adore Taka!

  • @ericleventhal
    @ericleventhal Год назад +24

    "How durable is he? How durable am I? Questions for later."
    It was this moment from Ep48 that Cell knew he was going to have SOME kind of event where he fought everyone just to see if he could beat them all. My interpretation of the end scene here is that Trunks inspires Cell to put the whole thing on TV. It plays into the dramatic and intimate nature of his character. He doesn't just want to kill Goku - he wants to give the world a front row seat.

  • @bumblebee1300
    @bumblebee1300 Год назад +340

    I don’t know what’s colder
    “Does gohan know by the way?…. That you let him die…”
    Or
    “Trunks you couldn’t FATHOM the amount of dead men behind me….”

    • @Shift_Salt
      @Shift_Salt Год назад +15

      Prob the first cuz it's more personal

    • @Vivi_9
      @Vivi_9 Год назад +8

      Def the 1st one but everyone seems to remember the 2nd one more

    • @OathKeeperRiku07
      @OathKeeperRiku07 Год назад +4

      The first one

    • @bumblebee1300
      @bumblebee1300 Год назад +11

      @@Shift_Salt well the second gets personal too cause technically all of this was trunks’ fault

    • @Naija_Ninja
      @Naija_Ninja Год назад +5

      2nd one is better because other than being a hard ass line it's a punchline to a brilliantly set up joke.
      It's just as badass as the first but significantly more clever

  • @c.k.6939
    @c.k.6939 Год назад +41

    I think I prefer the final version of Cell's reason for starting the Cell Games. It ties back to how he points out at the beginning of the episode that Trunks' attempts to help indirectly made things worse, so when Trunks tells Cell no one will remember him when he dies, he decides to screw him over one more time by twisting his message into an inspiration and then pinning the blame on Trunks for giving him the idea.

    • @jinxed7915
      @jinxed7915 2 дня назад

      But... that doesn't work, because Trunks was there while Perfect Cell was singing! You can't say that Cell is trying to pretend he just came up with an idea he was openly singing to everyone about like 5 minutes ago!
      It's clear that the Cell Games bit was thought of in advance, which is why there's a reference to it when we see Perfect Cell for the first time, and what happened was they started writing the episode and wrote a line that was good in a vacuum, but kinda awful when you factor in how hard it contradicts their own writing.
      I'll be honest, it takes me out of it whenever I have to hear Cell ~~totally just right now!~~ thought of doing some big fuck televised event as if he didn't just sing about it two episodes ago, and it is only thanks to the otherwise good lines and Taka's delivery that it doesn't kill the mood entirely. I'm with Kaiser on this one and wish he had used his veto power.

  • @cjkalandek996
    @cjkalandek996 Год назад +83

    1. I absolutely LOVE the line _"Trunks, you couldn't _*_fathom_*_ the amount of dead men behind me."_ It's the same level of cold as the _"How?! HOW MANY PEOPLE?!", "...Enough."_ thing.
    2. I absolutely love the timing of Cell revealing Trunks is the reason he's even there to begin with. If this particular section of the saga was a movie and this was the 3rd Act, I would totally drop that bomb where you did it.

  • @MatthewCSnow
    @MatthewCSnow Год назад +18

    Lani: "Ackchyually..."
    Taka and Kaiser: *war flashbacks*

  • @kylelargin9528
    @kylelargin9528 Год назад +345

    Honestly I love "the apple doesn't fall far if you chop the tree down"

    • @Vsmit00
      @Vsmit00 Год назад +28

      @@ArkDragneelDid you watch the video? They discuss different versions of that line.

    • @vengefulcloud2337
      @vengefulcloud2337 Год назад +16

      Tell me you haven’t actually watched the video without telling me😂

    • @ianrastoski3346
      @ianrastoski3346 Год назад +14

      Ha! Look! He deleted his comment out of shame!

    • @bountyhunter628
      @bountyhunter628 Год назад +6

      @@ianrastoski3346 Everyone point and laugh at that user!

    • @Dadan-dan
      @Dadan-dan Год назад +1

      I think "The apple doesn fall far if you *pound* the tree hard enough" would have made a good line too

  • @TheObicobiHD
    @TheObicobiHD Год назад +24

    16 yelling *"WHAT CHANNEL!"* still kills me every time, one of the funniest lines 🤣💜

  • @azzulbustillo
    @azzulbustillo Год назад +332

    i’m not ready for when these commentaries end 😭

    • @Coffee_dragon16
      @Coffee_dragon16 Год назад

      Yes it will be sad when it's over but at least maybe they'll commentate over their Majin Buu Saga Shorts they've been doing recently

    • @girly_trickster
      @girly_trickster Год назад +7

      I have a watch later for different stuff to watch when this series is over, in the meantime im looking through all of the uploads on this channel and the other channel, and maybe some of the personal channels as well, unfortunately, I have almost finished it all

    • @inferno3345
      @inferno3345 Год назад +17

      nothin ever lasts forever, mate

    • @drag0nerd
      @drag0nerd Год назад +8

      SAME these videos have been getting me through college and now a proper art school, it won't be the same

    • @girly_trickster
      @girly_trickster Год назад

      @@inferno3345 true, very true

  • @Mumbles_Odelyn
    @Mumbles_Odelyn Год назад +46

    I really prefer that Cell gets his idea in that moment where Trunks gives up. It reinforces his quick wit and keeps him in character with how he enjoys mentally deconstructing everyone, and now it includes everyone on the planet. Cell probably wants revenge in episode 49 where Cell is talking to the islanders and just gets angry at how stupid everyone is.

  • @KoyasuNoBara
    @KoyasuNoBara Год назад +37

    I love the pure _joy_ you can see Curt has about playing Cell.

  • @ammash3000
    @ammash3000 Год назад +22

    “I guess the apple doesn’t fall far when you *knock down the tree!”*
    My favorite alternate take, shoulda used that 😂

    • @tafua_a
      @tafua_a Год назад +4

      Yeah, much better. It still conveys the point, it's funny and doesn't trigger my "well akshually" sense.

  • @Rossco1010
    @Rossco1010 Год назад +58

    Cells "Oh Trunks... you cant fathom the amount of dead men behind me" line is only matched by Frieza's "No no no go on... Give me some ideas" in shear amount of raw coldness and perfectly villainous.

    • @battlesheep2552
      @battlesheep2552 Год назад +5

      I prefer
      Freeza: "I'm going to send you crying to your mother"
      Vegeta: "my mom's dead"
      Freeza: "I know"

    • @BmanTheChamp
      @BmanTheChamp Год назад +1

      Ohohoho no, don't mind me. By all means...
      *_GIVE ME SOME IDEAS._*

    • @benlundberg3811
      @benlundberg3811 Год назад

      Trunks… You couldn’t *FATHOM* the amount of dead men behind me.

  • @FrederikMickelborg
    @FrederikMickelborg Год назад +20

    Scott won it with the "knock down the tree" line

  • @Jackie-McCann
    @Jackie-McCann Год назад +113

    5:18 “Does Gohan know, by the way? …That you let him _die.”_
    That line wasn’t just cold, it was liquid nitrogen. 😳

    • @imveryangryitsnotbutter
      @imveryangryitsnotbutter Год назад +5

      Why not solid nitrogen?

    • @kyuubinaruto17
      @kyuubinaruto17 Год назад +1

      Personally I find the line weak. Gohan himself knocked Trunks out to fight alone, even in the manga version where Trunks is already SS before Gohan's death. And considering 17 said he hadn't even used half his power the last time Trunks inclusion would have made no difference. So, no, Trunks didn't "let" Gohan die.

    • @shadowldrago
      @shadowldrago Год назад +13

      @@kyuubinaruto17 Objectively, you are correct. However, guilt, trauma and PTSD make for a VERY nasty cocktail that wreaks havoc on your sanity. I can guarantee you that, in quiet moments, Trunks has the search for Gohan on a loop in his head, unable to stop it from playing over and over, constantly wondering what would have happened if he were stronger? What if he were faster? What if he'd woken up earlier? What if he was already a Super Saiyan?

    • @nousername191
      @nousername191 Год назад +8

      @@shadowldrago Oh.... especially the last 2. If he had succeeded in his training before the last fight, he could have been useful.... and that thought's gonna haunt him for the rest of his life.

    • @RandomPerson8492
      @RandomPerson8492 Год назад +4

      @@kyuubinaruto17 It doesn't matter that Trunks didn't actually let Gohan die, he _thinks_ he let Gohan die. That is enough.

  • @fraserking4747
    @fraserking4747 Год назад +16

    Glad Lani loves the “dead men” line as much as I do. Perfect Cell has some absolutely killer lines in this version of the show.

  • @Dreamfillah
    @Dreamfillah Год назад +196

    "You couldn't *fathom* the amount of dead men behind me." It evokes so much. How many people had to die to bring Cell to his ascendance? Well...
    The Red Ribbon Army, and everyone they killed beforehand. Dr. Gero, his son and his androids who were absorbed. Trunk's entire timeline, Goku, Gohan and all the Z-fighters. Of course, everyone Cell ate and killed firsthand, Trunks himself included.
    It goes on, though. Those millions of Namekians that died in the droughts, the countless innocents and Master Mutaito, who were slain by King Piccolo and his Demonfolk. The extinction of the entire Saiyan race, and everyone who died under the tyranny of King Cold's empire.
    It's literally an un-fucking-fathomable number of death on a generational, galactic scale that brought Cell to his perfection. That line is when the fight turns, even as Trunk's theme song is blasting; it's not his moment, it's His.

    • @jessegd6306
      @jessegd6306 Год назад +11

      MISTER Perfect His.

    • @gameygeemer4142
      @gameygeemer4142 Год назад +11

      "How many people had to die?"
      Enough

    • @FizzieWebb
      @FizzieWebb Год назад +5

      ....I never even thought about those implications, just ones that Cell personally ended. That is absolutely bone chilling, and just makes his "The whole world needs to see what it's created." line even more chilling, holy shit.

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 Год назад +4

      Cell really is the embodiment of the bloody history of Dragon Ball up to that point, isn’t he? Not just in tropes, but also in that the world has to be exactly as it was for Cell to become the threat he was.

    • @TheDark4light
      @TheDark4light Год назад +1

      Put that way it makes sense why the return of red ribbon went with Cell Max. It could have been a copy of Buu, Demon king Piccolo or any of the other androids. But no, the true form of all the world's fighting is Cell. It's desire for more power, for revenge, all boils down to him. And it always will.

  • @JMSM84
    @JMSM84 Год назад +11

    That one line has always given me chills since the first time I hear it.
    …also, “You pressed the Gohan button. Ya shouldn’t’a did that!”

  • @KoopySandwiches
    @KoopySandwiches Год назад +27

    I remember in the original 2000s Funimation dub, half this episode was Trunks screaming.

  • @Funsoms
    @Funsoms Год назад +9

    Scott's line about the tree was the best, made the most sense and had so much weight to it!

  • @regitriotrio5656
    @regitriotrio5656 Год назад +14

    "Does Gohan know by the way?"
    "Does he know what?"
    "That you let him die...."
    This sequence is perfect. Literally one of if not my favorite dbza scene. The lines are so simple yet perfect (pun now intended) and the loud droning sound is amazing as it leads to the last line when the wave crashes and all other sound stops. Silence.
    Words can't describe my love for this scene.

  • @cogito919
    @cogito919 Год назад +23

    It’s so fun watching them write jokes in real time

  • @IM-vv5dm
    @IM-vv5dm Год назад +26

    The small moment of Krillin and Vegeta actually getting along and sharing a laugh is really great.

  • @illegalmemedealer3549
    @illegalmemedealer3549 Год назад +26

    What Kaiser and Taka were talking about with writers cringing at their own dialogue is an example of something called “Bathos”, it’s hard to explain but Overly Sarcastic Productions made a great video about it and why it’s so frustrating

    • @drew6699
      @drew6699 5 месяцев назад

      I love that channel

  • @adriel9218
    @adriel9218 Год назад +16

    I like Lani's and Taka"s decision to go with the whole "no one will remember you" concept. It has more depth and nuance than just wanting to start a tournament.

  • @rcmunro22
    @rcmunro22 Год назад +6

    I like the "What Channel?" Joke because it also fits the period. Back then in the late 90s early 2000s there wasn't a lot of options for Searching for things like there is now. If you didn't know what Channel or time something was supposed to be on you were kinda screwed. My Godfather used to keep a little tv guide book by his Couch that he was sent each month. He would always open it up to see the programming schedules. Now everything is Streamed and on Demand, search functions everywhere.

  • @JJ_R
    @JJ_R Год назад +38

    10:48 Decent line from Trunks, *_Perfect_* comeback from Cell!

  • @lizsimms2942
    @lizsimms2942 Год назад +6

    The whole group did amazing in this whole scene, Takas cell is just.. perfect

  • @WitheredRoseMusic
    @WitheredRoseMusic Год назад +44

    i'd also like to propose "i guess the apple doesn't fall far when the tree's already short"

  • @RioZMC
    @RioZMC Год назад +5

    Feel like the way Cell calls the fight and undercuts Trunks line of “This fight was over before it even started” is under appreciated. I feel like that shows just how in control he is and it’s so subtle. A lovely mix of foreshadowing, comedy, and cruelty coming in from that line.

  • @alexandercollinson4040
    @alexandercollinson4040 Год назад +41

    "Trunks! Sensu beans heal physical damage. Only therapy can heal emotional wounds!"
    "Oh please. There's not a shrink qualified enough to deal with that hot mess."
    Me: *Just friggin dies*

    • @OathKeeperRiku07
      @OathKeeperRiku07 Год назад +1

      I feel this moment, that and Goku gone for six years, is why Vegeta just wanted power

    • @LinkinMark1994
      @LinkinMark1994 Год назад

      Ooooh is that where the “court-mandated therapy” line came from in Buu Bits?

  • @Sieg670
    @Sieg670 Год назад +4

    I'm glad you're up to this episode because I had a thought a while back. Goku put Monster Carrot on the moon and the moon was blown up...twice.
    I looked into this and according to Toriyama, he was floating around in space but seems to have made it back to the moon in Super.

  • @IAMNOTRANA
    @IAMNOTRANA Год назад +10

    15:46 I love how all three of them work together and improve on each other's ideas.

  • @BeanEaterExtraordinaire
    @BeanEaterExtraordinaire Год назад +11

    Taka delivering the line again at 5:55 is so smoooooth

  • @comixproviderftw_02
    @comixproviderftw_02 Год назад +24

    I can’t watch this and not think of this scene being portrayed in DBZ Burst Limit when Cell randomly say “WHAT’S GOKU DOING?!” 😂

  • @wolffire8819
    @wolffire8819 Год назад +11

    I just love the bit of Taka constantly forgetting his ending line, and all the gags of him remembering the line are just pure gold.

  • @Sabbalab92
    @Sabbalab92 Год назад +14

    I remember the first time I saw this episode and heard “Trunks, you couldn’t fathom the amount of dead men behind me.” I just went "Ooooooooooh, that's good!"
    Kaiser, you're absolutely right to be proud of that line.

  • @AnonomousBob
    @AnonomousBob Год назад +6

    “Oh, Trunks.. you can’t fathom the amount of dead men behind me..” is such a chilling line and also feels, to me anyway, as almost a follow up to Imperfect Cell's "... Enough"

  • @THAToneGUY594
    @THAToneGUY594 Год назад +10

    Finished watching Lani's Yu Yu Hakusho Abridged Creator Commentary to see a notification for DBZA Commentary. What a good day lol.

  • @TreyDZd
    @TreyDZd Год назад +4

    The comedic slow unfolding of the paper is so fucking good, I've never looked forward to outros so much until this series 😭

  • @ethantaylor9613
    @ethantaylor9613 Год назад +26

    I always thought Krillin should have been able to deduce that the UltraForm really wasn’t that useful. He may not have a high power level or whatever but he’s been through enough to have a sense for such things.

    • @DarkwingDash
      @DarkwingDash Год назад +18

      He probably could have if he’d stuck around for the fight

    • @hyperboliccancers3269
      @hyperboliccancers3269 Год назад

      Krillin should've been masturbating for comedic relief

    • @nousername191
      @nousername191 Год назад +7

      @@DarkwingDash True. Krillin doesn't see Trunks move around full speed in that form.

  • @EmmaBonn96
    @EmmaBonn96 2 месяца назад +1

    I love the
    BUT HES JUST A BABY
    line
    I love how she has shifted to seeing him as her large adult baby

  • @gappy_tv
    @gappy_tv Год назад +42

    Cell telling trunks he let gohan die is one of my favorite lines in this entire series

  • @dn22pkkdd476
    @dn22pkkdd476 Год назад +4

    Double dose of TFS DBZA on two channels that aren't the main TFS channel. What a fun timeline

  • @FranklyImaPerson
    @FranklyImaPerson Год назад +40

    Said it when it happened in the episodes but I've always headcannoned the Trunks that said the "Daddy?" line was the Trucks who Cell killed
    Just wraps everything we see into a neat bow

  • @dracosfire7247
    @dracosfire7247 Год назад +2

    I love the OSP video on the undercutting of moments with jokes. Both the Lampshading one, and the Bathos one, but ESPECIALLY the Bathos one.

  • @Ulises_The_Jackal
    @Ulises_The_Jackal Год назад +8

    Scott's performance this episode really is just amazing.

  • @shrimpisdelicious
    @shrimpisdelicious Год назад +9

    So, if we apply Freudian psychology terms to the writing team roles, it sounds like Lani was the Ego, Kaiser was the Superego, and Taka was the Id.

  • @DegmoGrandfather
    @DegmoGrandfather Год назад +8

    14:32 How cute. They are holding hands.

  • @meatb4lls404
    @meatb4lls404 Год назад +5

    I just love how kaiser had to point out that Taka wrote "doing" wrong and the little banter that stemmed from that. God watching these three being friends and having a good time is infectious.

  • @Bat0541
    @Bat0541 Год назад +8

    I've been waiting for this one, because I specifically remember when it was released. I was in an Airport waiting on a layover for an international flight in the middle of the night. I was bored, I was tired, and then I saw this had just come out, so I thought "oh cool, that's something to do for a bit". I ended up watching it at least a half dozen times. It's still one of my favorite episodes. The music and the dialogue was top tier.

  • @soyelguerreroguerra
    @soyelguerreroguerra Год назад +1

    I really really loved the in-character outro you guys did for these episodes. @kaiserneko seriously, shell-shocked trunks is priceless

  • @HoudiniJr
    @HoudiniJr Год назад +11

    It feels like all of the 50’s episode wise, is everyone going all out on the path to the finale and it’s AMAZING.

  • @Distamorfin
    @Distamorfin Год назад +5

    10:55 Not only easily my favorite line in the entirety of DBZA, but I struggle to think of another line from anything else I've seen that's as cold or delivered as well. Absolutely phenomenal.

    • @Stew91
      @Stew91 Год назад

      My favorite from Piccolo - "It means God...now bow".

  • @hailmuffins6934
    @hailmuffins6934 Год назад +15

    Does Gohan know, by the way?
    Does he know what?
    That you let him die!
    So damn cold, I love it so much!

  • @VincentMariethe4th
    @VincentMariethe4th Год назад +3

    My personal favorite bit is Bulma's "He's just a baby!"
    It's just one of those gags that sticks with me & live rent-free in my head. It's just that funny, & adorable. So like a caring mother figure.

  • @treywilliams1388
    @treywilliams1388 Год назад +24

    I swear the “go unreasonably buff bird“ joke always hits me like a fucking sucker Punch

  • @kraftyfox.2658
    @kraftyfox.2658 Год назад +3

    I still love the original line of, "i guess the apple doesnt fall far if you shake the tree hard enough!"
    XD

  • @sunkistwaves
    @sunkistwaves Год назад +12

    “Because I deserve SOMETHING today!”
    He really did :(

  • @auronapi
    @auronapi Год назад +8

    10:34 "You underestimate the size of Broly" 😂

    • @joshawott331
      @joshawott331 Месяц назад

      Kaiser isn't wrong broly is like a foot taller and way more jacked

  • @JAnne_Bonne
    @JAnne_Bonne Год назад +23

    Sometimes I forget just how much Kaiser had to scream in this ep….

  • @masonm8351
    @masonm8351 Год назад +1

    I like the direction you guys took with Cell’s decision not to kill Trunks. For all his life Cell was so zeroed in on his goal to be perfect that once he finally attained his goal, he had no idea what to do anymore. The entire world becomes Cell’s playground, but he still allows himself to be restrained all so he can prove he is the best to a bunch of people that he most definitely could of killed immediately. Cell could have killed Trunks, went to the lookout and killed everyone there, killed Krillin and Vegeta, potentially could have gotten the jump on both Goku and Gohan, or, better yet, could have just immediately blew up the planet and flown away. However, all because of Goku’s promise to kill Cell and Trunks’ belief in Goku, Cell restrains himself from just blowing everything up and instead decides to prove his strength in what he thinks is the most humiliating way possible, beating the Earth’s strongest warrior in a no-holds-bar death match. I just love the way that Cell digs his own grave when he could have set his pride aside and immediately eradicated everyone. Brilliant writing.

  • @dbzfan400
    @dbzfan400 Год назад +7

    “does Gohan know, by the way?”
    ~perfection~

  • @bongosmcdongos4190
    @bongosmcdongos4190 Год назад +4

    18:35
    I have two headcanons from this scene
    1: this is what goku would be like if grandpa gohan didnt drop him on his head
    2: gohan got his brains from Goku's side fo the family, after all his father is a savant and his grandfather was a scientist.

  • @dbzfan400
    @dbzfan400 Год назад +8

    “oh Trunks, you can’t fathom the amount of dead men behind me” is one of the best cryptic things said EVER! 👌