Some Say The 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser Is a Mistake - Here’s Why They’re Wrong!
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
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The real Land Cruiser was never meant to be just for the rich. We should have all the models that meet the safety requirements in the USA.
That's a Prado
🤡
Not complaining but the 250 series is a Prado not a Land Cruiser.
Still. I’ll probably be in line the buy one soonish.
I bought an 80 series in 91 and traded for a 93 due to bigger brakes and better engine. The 93 came with the triple locker. 160,000 miles and the only issue was windows coming of track when frozen. I won’t talk about the gas mileage 😂
As a 100 series Land Cruiser owner I am actually pretty excited about the hybrid power train, Toyota is probably the best hybrid power train manufacturer in the whole world. I personally hate getting 14 mpg on the highway lol I have a feeling the new Land Cruiser will hold up just fine, I will definitely look to purchase in the next few years.
I concur.
As a Lexus GX 460 owner, I also am pretty excited about the hybrid power train. I just want to know how that 2400 watt output works in the back of these. I am sure someone can run a portable fridge/freezer off of it in the back, but what happens when that battery gets low? will the engine turn on by itself to recharge the battery when it gets low like the ford f-150 hybrid pro-power on board with the generator package? Or will it just drain the battery completely until the vehicle is running again to recharge it? Some people might park an off road trailer in one spot for a few days (not me) and use a lot of that battery.
"im excited a out a hybrid powertrain"
Yea MPG is a sore point...I just drove my 2012 Ram 3500 SRW Cummins from SC to MI and got 18mpg...
Mpg is more likely gas price issue, it wasn’t an issue before when we’re paying .99/gallon, we don’t even look at mpg when buying any car.
It’s not a mistake. The biggest mistake was going so far upscale like they have in the past. I am not a Land Cruiser fan, many out there are, but they can lose objectivity. I’m like that with other products,, haha. The new Land Cruiser is a slight step back towards the more original series (40 series,,,,, welll ok,, 80 series) in a modern style. I like it,, the powertrain was always 6 cylinders for a LOOONNGG TIME. The 4 cylinder hybrid powertrain is just fine! It’s going to have some serious low end torque and ok to decent off-road capabilities.
It looks good as well.
LC 200 should of went more utlity and moved away from lexus LX460 and LC200 was priced almost at LX570 $, is why we didnt buy Them Toyota priced Them out of the US market
So glad I live in Australia, we get the REAL landcruiser (the 300) alongside the 250 and the 79.
I always saw the 70 series as the "Real Land Cruiser". In America, the 250 is "the real land cruiser" now. 😂
There isn't really much in it for capability between the 250 and 300, and there hasn't been since the 200, other than size and engine.
My old 90 series would keep up with a 200 (until TC or diff locks were needed)
Not sure why Toyota would choose to use the smaller 250 over the 300 for the US...
The US gets Lexus versions of the 300 -- the LX, which is a fancied up clone, or the GX which has the same drivetrain -- but yep, not the actual 300.
When we got the 200 they only had ~2500 sales a year, so the problem is US buyers not wanting to spend Lexus money on a Toyota badge.
Plus, with the popularity of the Bronco and Bronco Sport in the US, it makes sense they'd try to compete in that market. Although you'd think the 4runner already did that.
@alabama2uz after seeing the new 70 series that other countries are getting it makes you not want the others
They missed not putting the split tailgate on the 250
300 doesn’t have a tailgate so why would the 250?
@@EreggioHayde then they missed on that to, the wagon based land cruisers have had the split tailgate since the 60 series
@@blake.thomas. not the Prado versions, they were with side opening back door. And as this is based on 300 series ... no more split tail gate.
Hot take: the new 250 series or prado based will be a better overlander than any previous Land Cruiser in the US. Huge increase in mpg, smaller, fits on trails much better, and the hybrid tech is rock solid at this point. People would love to own a 200 series in the hearts but the 250 is a better everyday vehicle for real usage.. I’m optimistic it’ll be good.
Nah ill take a Bronco or Wrangler over this thing any day
The hybrid motor is supposed to provide low-end power, meaning less stress on the engine.
You're absolutely right. Previously, I was very disappointed when it was announced that the 250 would come with a hybrid 4. But then again, those types of engines are Toyota's bread and butter. Surely, with a nameplate like the Land Cruiser, they would make sure that everything is overbuilt. I'm confident that this one will be just fine.
i agree, at first i was skeptical of the ev hybrid part, wishing they had just done a turbo ice set up, but, there are some nice benefits to the hyrbid system. it will double as a vehicle power supply as well, which most people add to an overland set up anyways.
My 60 is 42 years old and still runs fine. Will the battery on this thing last 40 years? 20 years? 15? Let's hope they have realistic battery replacement options when that time comes...
250 series Landcruiser, do they make those for men???
Yes it’s called the 300 series Landcruiser but the US can’t have it ! 😂😂😂
Tommy skipped over the actual history of the Toyota Land Cruiser to save time. But In 1950, Toyota received a Military contract from the U.S. to manufacture Willys Jeeps for the Korean War. Toyota Engineers being what they are, perfectionists, found ways to improve the Willys Jeep. And when the Korean War reached an Armistice, ceasefire agreement in 1953, Toyota continued to improve their version of the Jeep and then started manufacturing their own AWD Brand, precursor to the Land Cruiser, locally in Japan.
You may want to research that again...lol
@@phelandeluna5439 How exactly am I incorrect? Point it out. I cannot wait for your response.
@@theylied1776 Mitsubishi and Mahindra had permission to build the Jeeps, Toyota just jacked one and reverse engineered it, as did Land Rover.
The Japanese government asked Toyota to develop a light truck for the military. And after the Empire of Japan occupied the Philippines, during 1941-1942, a captured Bantam GP (or Willys MB) was sent to Japan for assessment and testing. Japanese military authorities subsequently requested that Toyota produce a similar vehicle, albeit with an altered external appearance.
In June 1954, responding to claims of trademark violation by the Willys Company that produced the original Jeep, then Director of Technology Hanji Umehara renamed the vehicle "Land Cruiser."
@@phelandeluna5439 Maybe I should have said that I grew up on Marine Corps Amphibious Base. I can guarantee that there are still some Toyota made Jeep's running around on Guam.
Is this the best that you can do?
@@phelandeluna5439 Mitsubishi licensed the Willys Jeep in 1953 for commercial use.
In 1950, Toyota was commissioned by the US military to build Jeeps for use in the Korean War. That is a big difference.
People like you never do actual research, you take fragments of information and think that you know it all. My comment about the history of the Toyota Land Cruiser is 100% correct.
Here's why they are wrong: Toyota paid me...
Spot on
When it comes to car reveals and press-provided cars, they turn into advertisers and not car-reviewers.
As the original owner of a 2000 100 Series, I can attest to its utter reliability, capability, comfort and versatility. I learned how to drive on my parents 1970 FJ55 wagon and wish I still had it. I wouldn’t trade my 100 series for any of the rest and have zero interest in the new one.
Isn't 250 an updated Prado and 300 is the proper 200 replacement?
Yes, Toyota USA royally screwed that up
yes, 4runner/ Prado/GX460 share the same 109" wheel base , the new LC250 prado /GX 550 are on the 112" wheel base now ,LC300 is diesel in Other markets , there is s basic utilitarian model which is what we wanted with the LC100/LC200 and LC300 , cut into toyota sequoia TRD pro sales = $$ for toyota dealers and its to much of a 3row luxury car
Yes. In Australia, NZ, and some other markets, it's just called the Land Cruiser Prado. Japan calls it the Land Cruiser 250 Series.
I think it is kind of cool that it has gotten a little smaller, cheaper, more off roady. Kind of back to its roots in a way.
...and if you want the bigger, more expensive Land Cruiser you can buy the Lexus. They have even embraced it's off-road credentials.
They should bring in the troopy for those who want bigger
Technically speaking the current 300 serious isn't any smaller, North America is just getting the 250/Prado size outside the Lexus GX
thats the 79 series.
It didn’t got smaller and cheaper, this new one is a new generation for the prado which is always been a smaller cheaper land cruiser since the 1990. The successor to the land cruiser is the new land cruiser LC300.
I don’t think it’s engine or the overall size that has people confused. What’s going to set this apart from the next gen 4Runner is what people are confused about. I can’t imagine the 4R will downsized or much different than the Tacoma’s powertrains. So if the 4R is the same size as the LC, same powertrain (optional), same platform/suspension and likely lower price. Whats the advantage to the LC?
I agree. It seems like the 2025 4 runner is going to be the same vehicle just a different trim level. Or more accurately the new Land Cruiser is just a high trim level of the 2025 4 Runner
theyre talking more bare bones interiors, and a possible manual for the 4R. @@bryanhersman4037
@@bryanhersman4037 my thoughts exactly. I bet aftermarket suspensions will be the same (maybe even the Tacoma) and you could probably retrofit the KDSS from the LC if the 4R doesn’t come with it. It’ll be interesting to see Toyota’s strategy because I’m still thinking the new LC will be more of a status symbol or throwback than a meaningful upgrade to another model. Heck, the price won’t be far off the new GX and that has the twin turbo v6.
That IS the real question, better current 4Runner is more capable to boot.
A iconic duo showing iconic suvs. Awesome job kase and tommy. 🅰️
As far as hybrid reliability goes, my sister has a first generation Prius with about 200,000 miles on it and that girl has probably change the oil on that card so few times you could probably count on both hands. She is like the destroyer of cars she does zero maintenance on them ever like if the oil got changed it’s because my father, or I did it for her. And my sister having that car with zero issues for so long, made me a believer because if a car can survive my sister and her lack of everything maintenance related Toyota has figure it out a reliable recipe for sure...
The land cruiser was like a lot of vehicles getting too big, and it became more of a status symbol rather than something worthy of off road use.
Less ground clearance and a smaller engine than a 2024 4runner. There’s no getting around physics, a smaller engine means it will need higher rpms when accelerating which accelerates engine wear. I’d buy the tried and tested drivetrain that’s been around forever on the 2024 4runner and save $10k than be a guinea pig on a 1st year new land cruiser with. A 4 cylinder engine
The 200 Series was also offered with a 4.5L twin turbo diesel V8 and a 4.6L NA V8 petrol engines in some markets.
And a 4.0 V6 also.
gas**
and had more basic utility models we only had the top top trim spec
@@bobdylan6773 there were no official gas powered engines in this, only petrol (liquid) and diesel (liquid).
America only got the top-of-the-line trim
with the V8. That’s why it was so expensive in America (~$90k) and it had low sales, leading to its discontinuation in the US. Most people would rather spend that money on the Lexus LX or another luxury brand.
You guys failed to recognize just how rare the 100 Series Land Cruiser you drove is. The specific one you drove didn't have a sunroof (which is quite rare) and was also optioned with a Rear Diff Lock (which is uncommon for the no-sunroof variant).
Tommy, the FJ80 and the FZJ80 shared the same T-O-Y-O-T-A logo on the grill. They changed the engine in 1993, signifying the change to FZJ, but didn’t replace the drill logo until 1995.
As for the Triple Lock configuration, it was available through all model years from 1990-1997.
I believe they didn’t delete that option until the 2000 year model of the 100 Series.
it'll be interesting what they do with the new 4runner
Probably throw the same motor in it
Thats what I'm thinking. In the US market we have the 4runner, this Land Cruiser doesn't seem any better. Its cool to have options though.
@@jeffk464I would definitely shop this against the new 4Runner.
@@christos881 Same basic frame, same basic suspension, same basic power-train as far as I know. Mostly a different body.
This LC is what the 4 Runner was supposed to be. 4 Runner fans got screwed as it had been based on the Prado since 2003 to 2023 the same vehicle this one is based on. Expect the new 4 Runner maybe in 2025 to be a Tacoma with a Cab. Crappier version than the current one, which I bought one 2 weeks ago, as they will become sought after.
When the 100 series launched in Australia, they offered a version with solid front axle. I think it also came with the 4.2L 6 cylinder diesel and a 5 speed manual. They rode on steelies too.
Yep, was called the 105! UN bought loads of them.
might be right .there was and still is a v8 turbo diesel and in the U.S. the LC100 became more of a luxury wagon. than utilitarian ,like in other world markets ,LC 200 more luxury higher price thats. why no one bought them LC250 is more mid size
@@youtubecarspottersguide1yes, the 105 is the model you’re referring to, but the most interesting thing about that variant is it’s a 100 Series body, but it rides on the 80 Series Chassis!
Slight correction: the 93 and 94 Landcruisers were FZJ80s with the spelled out "TOYOTA" on the front and not the "T" emblem.
I can almost guarantee the people complaining are not land cruiser owners because people are excited, the problem is that it should have been called the 4runner
But it is not a 4runner, it is a Prado... The Prado came from the Land Cruiser that got softer. The 4runner came from the Taco/Hilux platform. In reality the 4runner is smaller than the Prado and also cheaper and arguably better in the real tough stuff
we would have bought more LC 200 's if it been more utilitarian , than top of the line 3 row luxury wagon @$90k
The problem is that it should’ve been called the Prado, which it really is.
Also, the Prado never had an 8-cylinder engine. Only 4-cylinder and 6-cylinder.
Toyota has guts to compare this Prado
to the other real land cruisers we got up until the 200 series.
@@andrevanderwalt2515 Pretty sure the current 4Runner is on the Prado 150 platform.
Stick whatever label you want on the 250 it's still a prado, the 300 series is the landcruiser. 90 series, 120 series, 150 are all prados. Cant be compared to the 60, 80, 100, 200 and 300 landcruisers.
Even the naming conventions make it a prado.
If USA didn’t hate on LC200 which was looked down in sales they would have gotten LC300 which is a V6 but more powerful than any V8 Toyota have ever made.
So they are getting a small Landcruiser known as prado in many markets which has always been a 4 cylinder and v6. And then Americans will again complain. But I am sure this will sell more because Toyota is using price to market which was the problem for LC200 that ended up discouragement of bringing LC300.
Toyota only brought the very top end Safari trim as the 200 series to the US. If we had the ability to purchase some lower trims like everywhere else, it would’ve caught on more.
@@ryanmartinage maybe they are planning to bring in LC300 later in like 5 years when this new baby prado catch fire. Because it is a beautiful and good car. I want one for myself. Since I started typing this 3 of them have passed by but last year model.
So they will like it, however, I wish Americans got that LC300. It’s amazing.
@@ryanmartinage yes we wanted the basic LC200 GX model 18" steelies cloth seats utility model not a $90 k 3rows of leather top trim Toyota priced them out of the market
@@youtubecarspottersguide1 100%
@@boxoffisa part of it is production capacity too. The 300 series is years backordered already just about.
@8:15 alll 80 series were available with the k294 option (F/R lockers). My 97 has the option. it was the 100 series that only had the rear locker in the early models.
What a great video. Very simple yet informational AND very well laid out. Extremely easy understand the history of the Land Cruiser.
Thank you, nice job. I wish you would show a side-by-side size comparison with the 250 series and each of the other Land Cruisers just to better understand the relative overall size of the new 250.
Great video! Always enjoy Tommy’s narration on things! Makes me want to place an order for one!
Less ground clearance is never a good thing off road.
The 300 series is my favorite one 😒
Real Land Cruiser
Tommy, This is an excellent historic overview that clearly illustrates the Land Cruiser was not always a huge luxury barge. It looks like a new and very basic Land Cruiser is being launched with compact proportions 0:41 close to that FJ25. Let's hope it reaches this market . 🤞🤞
Still think the 1958 model is the one to get like Nathan wants. Anyone know when these things are actually going on sale, not just teasers like this?
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I still loved my 1975 FJ-40 bobtail Landcruiser. It had a 4 speed standard with 4.11:1 differentials. I bought it for $7,500.00 brand new. I added a 22 gallon axillary gas tank to give it more range between fill ups. I also installed autolocking hubs. Because I was getting lazy getting out to lock them. With no overdrive it was lousy on the highway both in highway speed and and gas mileage.
I love it every time you guys are visiting the Land-Cruiser museum, I’m still missing my old HJ61 with an impossible to kill 4L diesel.
I use to work for audi and they had a 4 cylinder turbo engine inside a Q7 that is very heavy they always had horrible, gas mileage, and the turbos always went out due to being maxed out all the time
In addition to an RJ-70, I operated an HJ-65 turbodiesel in Germany during the late '80s. That HJ was wonderful! Seats were from the Supra. The five-speed manual worked well with the engine. Plenty of torque!
The only major thing to me is the lack of the tailgate. It comes in so much handy when camping. A place to sit, a place to prep meals, a place set thing while setting up camp. Also when parked on an incline, you can open the top hatch and leave the lower closed and nothing can fall or roll out. Shame they left it out.
4x Land Cruiser owner! The FJ80 was a slug, lol. Also had some rear main seal problems. I loved my 100 series! More power. It was 14 yrs old when I bought it. I drove it for 10 years. No problems. Sold it in 5 minutes too. My current beauty is badged as a Lexus GX 460. 10 years old when I bought it. It's so comfortable and luxurious! I feel like I need a jar of Grey Poupon in the console. Excited about the new model! Enjoyed your video. Thanks for the great history tour! New subscriber.
Two things I find weird. 1) That Toyota are not introducing the 300 series to a country that traditionally likes ginormous vehicles. 2) That the Prado 250 is being compared to what can only be described as its older first cousins rather than its elder siblings and that Toyota are the ones encouraging this comparison.
Personally, I like the new 250 series and is a far more attractive car than then outgoing Prado, which whilst nice, its interior was very long in the tooth and rather cheap looking if I'm honest. I do think it should have come with a split tail gate though or even the more Prado like side opening door. A split tail gate is more practical and a side opening door invariably follows the direction according to which side of the road the manufacturer's domestic market drives on, meaning that countries that drive on the opposite side have a door that is inconvenient (G-Wagon in Japan, Defender in the USA etc). That is why a split tail gate is better.
The sequoia fills that gap for a large suv. Despite the enthusiast foot stomping, LC 200 series sales weren’t good enough to keep it here in its 300 series iteration.
Not to pick on small details but you had mentioned the "toyota" badge in 80 grille indicated the 3fe engine. 93 and 94 80s had the old "toyota" badge spelled out on the grill as well but were equipped with the obd1 1fz engines. The more modern Toyota badge was on the grill of the 95-97 80s in the US, which also had the 1fz but with the updated ODB2 management system (some 95s had a weird cross over obd2 system as well?, maybe?).... LOVE the channel, keep it up!
looking through comments it seems i was late on the draw on this post...still love the channel as always!
Other than the engine setup on the Land Cruiser 250, I prefer the downsizing and the design is okay...it's an off-road SUV so the design is consistent for that purpose.
With all the long overdue powertrain changes across the board, I am curious how much R&D has been done on the new setups? You know Toyota definitely put a lot of work and thought into these. I am excited for the opportunity to get into one of these!
Prius used the NiMH battery, and they ran for at least 200k miles. My last one was totaled at 226k miles and was going strong. Now, I have a 2016 GX Premium. Hybrid will let you hack the car into being a generator and can provide up to 2KWatt power.
Objectively the new 250 series is an improvement. Increased off-road ability with the sway bar disconnect, rear locker and center lock - all of which no other Land Cruiser has had. People who are unhappy with it want the Land Cruiser to be solid axle front and rear and geared towards competing with Jeep.
land cruiser have had, rear, center and front lockers before.....
@@DrinkWhiskeyRaiseHellgood correction, didn’t realize the absolute statements made at the time.
Thats because you cannot beat a solid front axle....
Can't wait to see this on your slip test and on your track someday
Absolutely love this video it would be amazing for you to see other brands with the same walk through
Nice video and massive fan of your content and shows. As a current Prado owner I wouldn't trade my current 1GR V6 for a turbo hybrid 4 pot. Why am I wrong? :)
So what’s the difference between the Land Cruiser 250 and outgoing 4Runner? I mean, I’m glad the LC is cheaper now but I feel like they are playing a trick on us and selling the 4Runner with a LC badge on it.
Literally everything, they're completely different vehicles.
You missed out on the 300 series. I bought one recently. It was a three way tussle between the LC300 , Defender & the Grenadier. The big factors were known reliability & resale value.
missing out on the 300 and the 70
My friend father owned a white 62 series in the early 90s. He gave it to him when he started driving. My friend put 4 10” JL subs it in 🤣 thing would almost rattle the doors open and set off all the alarms.
80 Series is my favorite but I'm very excited about eh 250 series. My biggest fear is dealers and distributors will artificially jack up the price with dealer/port installed packages and equipment and addendum/market adjustment fees.
When Tommy asked Tylor why she had a 200 Heritage Edition, I expected her to say it’s because they don’t sell the 79 in the USA. My favorite series is the 60 we have in our garage. Wish they’d sell the 250 with the split tailgate and a third row!
I simply don’t understand the 250 in the states; seems to encroach into the 4Runner space.
maybe 4runner will go more wrangler like Lowe price ? but will it stay in the Japan factory
Looks nice but needs all terrain tires. Nice review. Thanks.
Enjoyed seeing the heritage of the LC. Great video and content. 👍👍
My ‘92 Previa had rear seats that folded up against the rear windows as well
I love my 95 Land Cruiser. Great off roadwr with the front and rear lockers. My only problem is not great on gas and with these gas prices it doesn’t get driven as much.
Could you guys cover the Prado lineage? I.e. 150, 120, 90?
7:15 - 1994 is a FZJ80 with Toyota spelled out on the front. They went to the modern Toyota emblem in 1995. 1994 can also be triple locked.
I love my triple locked 1994; best year of the 80 series!
Great video! Wish we could have seen the Iron Pig!
97 is best
96 or 97 is best.
I actually have a 96 Toyota Landcruiser Prado TX with the 3.0 litre turbo diesel engine in it..literally came from Japan..I use it for delivering mail for the Post Office
My favorite is the 200 series because it has that king of the road feel cause of its bigger size.
Actually if you check it the 200 has almost identical dimensions with J250 :)
More Land Cruiser content!
I haven’t been this excited for a vehicle since the Bronco!
Couldn’t find a Land Cruiser shirt for a Land Cruiser event? Haha great video!
the '24 Land Cruiser looks more like the reintroduction of a new, 4 door FJ Cruiser imo
Am I the only one that initially thought the 125hp of the FJ25 was an impressive number for what it is? Only to hear it isn't going to be fast? I mean, 125hp in that thing gets it to speeds way higher than you even want or dare to drive with it 😂
honestly man i think they hit it out of the park with the new one. its not what id spec out if i could build one out myself, but, given the future of oem regulations, it makes sense. the pricing seems good, and the quality for the price even better. its a dwiindling segment, true off road suv's, and this one should excel
The fully-locked 70-, 80- and 105-series LCs remain my favorites of the whole line-up to this day.
It is important to consider the level of equipment of these cars exactly, for what purpose you use the car in your daily driving. Secondly, it is also necessary to evaluate what is the ratio of weight and engine power to consumption and what costs will be caused by the supply of electricity and the price of fuels in the next 2-5 years. Also the maintenance costs and maintenance of your car.
So, between my wife and I we have owned, 1963 FJ40, 1972 FJ40, 1976 FJ40, 1980 HJ47, 1983 FJ60, 1985 BJ70, 2002 UZJ100, 2004 UZJ100. The ones that have been retired ran over 400,000 and it was due to New England rust, not any mechanical issues. We still have 5 of them and we am looking forward to the new version, LOL, although might need to sell a couple to make room.
I think the best way to understand how Toyota's got it right with the new Land Cruiser is to compare it to what Land Rover did with the new Defender!
Haha what an abomination
Neighbor a few houses down has 2 of those 60 series in his drive way. Both run and in good condition.
My parents had an RJ70 when I was growing up (short wheel base), and I absolutely loved it.
Have had a 95 and now have a V6 120.
If I was to choose any of the older models it would be the 105. Best bits of the 100 and best bits of the 80.
If I could afford it I'd get the new prado 250 in a heartbeat. Love the look.
Ideally I'd get the 71 sold in the UAE, swb 70, looks so much like the car from my childhood.
Honestly one of the best ever Toyota interiors I’ve ever seen. All their other cars look old, junk and plasticy. I love the screen design
What happens when you go off road and the hybrid batteries get wet?
105 series, Google it. Sweet spot for the last comfy solid axle cruiser
I would love a FJ-40. Almost bought a good quality one for very cheap, but lost out to someone. I'm still not happy with Toyota for using a hybrid in the new land cruisers. I wonder if these will last nearly as long as the 100 series models with the venerable 2UZ V8. I have friends with the 100 series with over 300,000 miles. While the hybrid design seems great, I'm not sure about using a turbo on the gas engine.
80 series is peak Land Cruiser in the US, but I really like this new one too, as much as one can like a modern IFS vehicle.
whats the interior space on this vs a 5th Gen 4R?
Interesting how Toyota has decided to brand the new Tacoma based SUV a land-cruiser when it had always been a Forerunner before. If you don't like the turbo-hybrid idea, you better get a '23 or '24 Forerunner while you can. Also, the 100-200 series only ditched the front solid axle on the NA market. This is a new name for the Forerunner, not a successor to the 70 or 200 series.
So why would I buy a new LC 250 over a new 4Runner? I don't see any point now. The LC200/300 was a step up from the 4runner in size, luxury, towing capacity, seating, longevity, and you paid a premium for all that extra. Now I'd be getting a lot less (although cheaper than the outgoing LC model) buying the new model LC which has a pokey 4 banger (not as good as the 4 runner V6, even less than the V8) and I don't want mild hybrid, nobody looking for reliability does) might as well buy the 4runner, right?
This is the correct response
Shouldn’t you compare the previous with the new LC 300 instead of the Prado?
2024 Land Cruiser it's a new Land Cruiser PRADO.
Real Land Cruiser is LC300, it's not present in the USA.
Many markets do not use the Prado moniker. Doesn’t mean it’s not a real Land Cruiser. Land Cruiser has been a line of vehicles since the early 80s. Heavy duty, station wagon, light duty. What’s different is that past light duty land cruisers did not get the drivetrain and components as the heavy duty and station wagon. This generation does. So define Land Cruiser and I bet you’ll confuse yourself.
Just wish they have more than one engine option…. Not just a hybrid only..
FZJ80 started in 1993 - 1997. The front, rear, and center diff lock was an option for the 1993-1997. FJ80 was 1991 and 1992 and only offered the CDL, no front and rear lockers. The FJ62 was sold in the US in 1988, 1989, and 1990. My first Cruiser was a 1983 FJ60 which I wished I still had. Since then I've owned dozen FJ80 and FZJ80s, and 4 100 series. I've never owned a 200 series, moved to a Tundra about 8 years ago but I'm looking forward to the new Cruiser.
i want to rav 4 video now! i got a second gen and curious on what you say about it. my opinion is slow and boring but amazing in the snow
The Cargo area in the rear...LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE 4Runner....
Man Tommy you are really coming into your own. Great watching you grow and you look more and more like dad every day. Roman good job raising fine young men. I have a 2010 LC i love it and a 2014 GX460. It’s like having two sons I love them both just different. 😅
J80 series from the 80's is probably the best looking one for me; timeless ruggedness too.
Myself (an FJ Cruiser owner) and my friend (GX owner) were just talking about this last night. We hadn't discussed it before at all, but over drinks we both immediately agreed that the 4cyl hybrid is a huge mistake. We're both looking at the new GX due to that fact alone.
The problem is LC200 series was rejected in USA which discouraged Toyota to bring LC300. Now US will get a scaled down landcruiser normally called prado in other markets.
But this is fresh and prados have been 4 cylinders. This is made to scale up sells unlike LC200. This is because people are buying crossovers more and reliable cars like landcruiser was rejected due to praise so sells wasn’t being great.
However, since LC has reputation people will buy it. Maybe later they will reinstall the real LC sold elsewhere. Yes the LC300 has a more powerful V6 engine. No more V8 though due to the pressure from climate change influenced by powerful people.
@@CromulentCorpse prado which is American receiving in 2024 is also a landcruiser but the baby one. They wanted to offer this to US but the people in US hates good things.
And yes this will last. Landcruiser Prados is a reliable SUV. That’s why they sell so much elsewhere.
Customers that compared the LC200 against the Lexus LX 570, realized that you get a lot more for your money out of the Lexus. That is why we still get the Lexus version of the 300 series, but only the cheaper 250 series of the Land Cruiser.@@boxoffisa
Compare it to the new Lexus LX. Then, you can see why the LC 250 is cheaper. @@CromulentCorpse
GX550 has turbo and this LC has turbo. 4 or 6 cyl doesn't matter. If I don't have any issue with turbo then I prefer hybrid max powertrain on new LC , not just the turbo v6 on GX550 which basically gives same mpg as the GX460. GX460 is better buy than GX550.
Love it show up to Toyota to do a history of Land Cruiser wearing a VW Micro Bus T-shirt. I wouldn't even do that. So disrespectful. But must say love the Land Cruiser and the Bus. Both legends.
250 is not a Land Cruiser, it's a Land Cruiser Prado. Its history only goes back to the 90 series
Thats not correct! Its history dated back to the Bundera, that became the Prado, in the 80s with the J7.
@@ThePoopsie321 as far as I know the 70 series just had a trim level called Prado, it wasn't an independant model. This SUV Toyota sells in the US is called Land Cruiser, but that means nothing. Names mean nothing. In the recent past there had been two Land Cruiser lines: the comfort-oriented one (60, 80, 100, 200, 300) and the offroad-oriented one (pretty much just 70). Prado originally was a more luxurious version of the 70 series, but that's not the same as Prado 90 - a completely new model with no direct ancestor. Prado 90 was not a more offroady version of the Land Cruiser 80 - it was anything but with its independent front suspension and, iirc, the lack of front differential lock, which 80 series had.
@@ThePoopsie321 it's like Mustang Mach E or Mitsubishi Eclipse crossover: the name is the same, but it means nothing. This 250 series is not a real Land Cruiser, just like 90 series wasn't the same Prado the 70 series was.
@@ldmtag Of course, it was a different model. The Bundera had the weaker, smaller engines and the smaller axles compared to the Heavy Duty J7. Since the 80s, there have always been two different models of the Land Cruiser. The midsize-model Bundera/Prado (Pajero/Terrano-class) and the fullsize-model Land Cruiser Wagon, starting with the iron pig.
@@ThePoopsie321 here's where we disagree: not from the 80s, from the 90s. And the first Prado as we know it today, in my opinion, started from the 90 generation.
Put me down for the new 250 series with the trailhunter trim.
Correction: the TOYOTA lettering on the grill only determines the year, not whether its an FZJ or not. My dad owns a 94 FZJ and it has the TOYOTA lettering. In 95 they went to the badge. The 1FZ-FE was introduced in 93.
Edit: another thing to add is that my dads 1994 FZJ80 is triple locked.
My favorite Land Cruiser series is the 40 series. I never owned one I always had CJ's and wranglers but I've had friends that had the 40 series and they're just the beast. My second favorite is the 60 series I just always love the look of it and it's a good size. I do like the new one I like the FJ60/62 look depending on which headlights you get. Personally I'm not concerned about the inline for turbo hybrid because like you said it's Toyota. Thank you 👍
When is the time to go to the markets?
This landcruiser is not a successor to the 200 series ,
That would be the 300 series, this is a successor to the 150 series , which is why its cheaper and smaller