In a single 20 minute video, you have answered nearly all the questions that have been burning in my mind for several years over my next off-road vehicle.
2007 wasn't 17 years ago it was... it was... 17 years ago oh god. Love these technical videos, it goes a lot deeper than the surface "it's good off road" most reviewers say because it has big wheels and a badge
I feel that about it being 17 years ago. I keep forgetting I’m almost 40 and not in my early 20s anymore until the pain in my neck and the grays in my beard remind me how old I really am.
Just turned 65 here, with a 15 yr old Tundra, 14 yr old FJ, and a 5 yr old RAV4. First two have just hit 80k, and the RAV, 20k. It’s all wearing me out 😂.
@@CTR_Dan One of the most famous Tundras is a RCSB that a guy spent $$ custom making because it didnt exist in fhe exact configuration he wanted (specifically, the 2014+ style update). They are the style of Tundra that are required if you want to seriously race the trucks too.
You coined a new phrase : de-bro a truck. That was hilarious. Great video and love your analytics of how you landed on this unicorn Tundra. I would love to get the GX550, but the engine worries me and now you showed another aspect that I did not even consider yet with the front overhang. I'll stick with my GX470 until the engine quits.
@@Persocondes That was the point, I love my GX and with just a few mods it can keep up styling wise not to look like a 20year old truck. Every major YT'er that was invited to the Toyota events has been promoting the new line up, but all you get is more worries that something could go wrong. Can you imagine how a turbo 4 or 6 could last anywhere close to even 1/4 million miles? I can't
💯. I landed on an 07 gx470 years ago for the 2UZ-FE and never looked back. The new GX550 looks great but I have the same concerns. I went back and forth about “bro-ing” my suspension until a video here put the decision to rest. She remains “unbro-ed”. 😆 Thanks for all the good content and community you’re developing.👍🏼
I have a 5.7L Tundra and it’s easily the best vehicle I’ve ever owned. I am very excited to see what you do with your very unique 4.7. This is the kind of content that makes your channel one of my favorite.
yeah that was a good selling point when I bought mine couple years ago I have toyed with the idea of putting a side bench tacoma seat there as I have a console two seaters ,
From an old school Jeep wheeler/builder (TJ) that just discovered your channel, I appreciate your criteria, evaluation and clear presentation. I'll be keeping an eye on this build.
Your honesty, testing and explanation of things is so refreshing and mindful, it's perfect. Thank you for not being like every auto review critic on youtube just pushing new models and getting paid to do it. Awesome work as always!
In the world of automotive channels this one doesn’t have that many subs but in terms of production quality and the informative value this is one of the best videos out there.
as an owner of a 2016 Tundra SR5 DC I love the single cab (but the Tundy is my trailer tower and we usually have 4 adults). As a hobbyist wrencher I can't tell you how much I appreciate you going back to an older vehicle to mod it, for offroading, on RUclips, in 2024. This will be the most unique build this decade.
We see the general trend in the automotive industry: engines getting smaller with big turbos, thick metal getting replaced with thinner metals, all these for the sake of fuel economy while massively sacrificing reliability. Also everyone is putting in big screens and “sporty handling” to please the crowd of reviewers.
I LOVE my RCSB. 2007 4x4 4.7L V8, 5 speed column shift. I will never get rid if it. It is so damn reliable. The bed was rotted in the corners when I bought but the frame was spotless. I recently changed the bed from a wrecked one and the truck juat does everything I ask of it. Could not find rock warrior wheels for it so I got some Icon that are pretty close and some 285/70-17 duratracs. I wish I had saved the rock warrior wheels from my 2015 I had found. Ohh well truck is awesome even though it is two colors right now 😅
This guy just gets wheeling. Amazing content that is useful. He articulates all the nuances we obsess about, right down to axle shaft spline count and wheel well measurements etc…
Fantastic video it’s great that you showed that the second GEN tundra was better than all of the new vehicles. I love the way you showed thickness of all the brackets underneath the truck and really got into the details of everything you are a great RUclipsr
I truly love the measurements and very specific traits we all think of when comparing all of these Toyota/Lexus. This is the most extensive analytical view of these vehicles I have ever seen! Truly excellent!
Geez, I forgot how HUGE the single cabs on the second-gen Tundras were… you’re right, that is a VERY rare Tundra. I really like the profile of that truck, and the 4.7 is the most reliable of the Tundra engines by FAR.
It's refreshing to hear someone speak the truth (backed up by hard data) about the new Toyotas. It's shameful some of the garbage I hear from guys who are so transparently externally motivated to make people believe these vehicles are somehow better - most of which are owners of aftermarket parts manufacturers/resellers, Land Cruiser Museum employees and, of course, the media "SMEs" who only care about whether or not they're invited to the next Toyota media event.
Your vids are a god send. You helped me decide what mods I actually need. My 07 fj is nearly perfect for my daily and off road needs. The previous owner was an aircraft mechanic and did a damn good job taking care of it. My only concern is the transmission services. He didn’t have them on record so I haven’t touched the trans. Bought it at 168k and now it’s just over 220k miles. Ive rebuilt the whole suspension (3” front & 1” rear) and some steering components. I do believe my steering rack is going out now but besides that it has been a dream. I plan on keeping her for as long as she’ll run.
@cavedog1279 My parents had one growing up, which is what made me get a GX470 later down the road lol. These Tundras are much more beefy and I bet they don't need an axle swap to run 37s
Your reasoning also explains why the 2nd gen sequoia is gaining popularity offroad even with independent suspension. Bombproof and very capable platform. I'm looking forward to the build!
Wow I’m happy for you and jealous, I wish Toyota still made the RCSB tundra. So then you basically have a Tacoma sized V8, thank you for you all your technical knowledge and sharing them.
200 frame is not the same as the Tundra. According to Toyota’s press materials of the period, the LC200 frame is 20% stiffer than the frame of the 2g tundra. The frame is boxed only to the back of the cab: it’s open c-channel to the tailgate. 200 series is fully boxed. Also you didn’t mention your choice is the only one with rear leaf springs.
Less effective maybe? But durable and reliable. I have always wanted to take the 2g Sequoia rear frame and Frankenstein it into a SWB tundra. Fully independent tundra + 5.7
@accordv6er I had the same idea, specifically for extended the Tundra frame (6.5 bed onto a crewmax). After much research I ended up concluding the frame being boxed/not really doesnt make enough difference, the frames limitiation is how thin it is (I was hoping to gain extra payload in the process).
Dude FUCK YES. I am so excited to see you build your 2nd gen out and provide us with some real data/numbers. Trying to base my decisions off your prado platform info has been great but not always as easy.
Thanks for saving this vehicle from Bro Truck world. Also, I appreciate the full transparency on how cheaply they’re cutting corners on newer trucks and charging a small fortune for them. Instant sub to this channel.
My daily driver for the last 5 years is a 2007 Tundra RCSB with the 4.7. It's currently at 289k miles. I have added every single bit of modern technology that I prefer.....back up camera, touchscreen infotainment system, LED lighting everywhere, etc etc. Of course lots of off road upgrades as well. I get compliments on it almost every day. It's my favorite vehicle I have ever owned and plan on keeping it as long as I possibly can.
The cast iron UZ series V8s will always be the most reliable Toyota V8s ever but the successor UR series is the perfect balance of power and longevity, where 1 million mile examples also exist.
First and foremost, congrats on the new build. Just bought a ‘new to me’ ‘08 sequoia for the same reason. 5.7 V8 though. 1 owner. Completely undercoated from the bottom. Lived its life in the Bronx it’s whole life. Only 67k miles on the clock. I’ve filmed a lot of content and wanna start a channel. But I’m super scared to start lol.
Wow, Toyota really cheapened the the frame and suspension mounts on the new platforms. That's insane. Toyota definitely won't hold the crown for most reliable off-roaders anymore... shits gonna be way too easy to brake
@@AFS-ht7bg good plan. Good generations for those vehicles. I had an 07 fj cruiser that must've been a lemon cause it broke down constantly, but no one else I know with a Toyota from that time has had much issue with em
Before I had a child, I would casually go to the dealer on Fridays off during the earlier 2010s and just look at and sit in the cars in the showroom. You could feel quality step-downs with each iteration of the Camry and the RAV4. They would look more modern, but everything including the door/fender skins would be thinned. We had a 3rd gen RAV4 Sport V6- and although the interior was spartan and somewhat boring, it was still more durable feeling than the 4th and 5th gen. Just about as storage area as a 4Runner well. It really doesn't surprise me that the platform itself is being thinned out..Toyota would spin it as weight savings for fuel efficiency.
@mattb9664 I feel that way between my grandparents 2024 chevy Colorado and my 2003 tahoe or my stepsons 2021 audi suv. Yeah they're more refined, quicker, and comfortable but neither will take the beatings I dish out nor will they survive scraping against rocks and trees like my tahoe has. I've ran up against trees and even the OE plastic fender flares stayed in place, I wouldn't even trust the metal fenders to stay in place on newer vehicles.
Purchased a 24 tundra crewmax 6.5 bed last month, this month going back to the 2nd GEN (21) crewmax. Loved my previous 2010 and I’m glad I corrected my pricy mistake! I want to build out the 21 a little different then what I did with the 2010..I’m hoping to find some info on your build that I could use on mine! Looking forward to it!
Wheelbase is def a problem on full size trucks. I had a 157" wheelbase F150 and every dumb obstacle on the trail was just reaching up to try and take a piece of the rockers. The truck had something like 14" of clearance to the center of the frame between the tires, vs my GX460 with a lift that only had like 11-12", but my GX460 could do the same obstacles without even thinking about it. My F150 I had to pick perfect lines for everything. Never mind that it had the turning circle of something like 50'. There was a lot of trails where I simply couldn't get the truck down without damaging it. That said, putting 35's or 37's on a full size truck is a lot easier and so you can get the thing up in the air. This RCSB tundra with some big tires should have clearance and breakover for days.
I got a 200 series in February. An LX570 specifically. The more I read and see about the new TNGA trucks, the happier I am with my decision. While I would prefer the power and torque of the 3.4L TT because I tow at high elevations, the rest of the 200 series is just so stout. And if I really needed more power, there are bolt on blower kits. Also, AHC on the LX570 is phenominal.
Love this as a fanboy on Tacoma number 13 and can’t stomach the new gen (and yes to those I can afford one not financing it). Looking forward to this build.
My parents are the 2nd owners of a 13 Tundra SR5 Crewmax FFV since 50,000 miles. It now has 175,000 miles and still runs like a clock and the absolute BIGGEST feature that it has that secured this truck as their forever full-size truck are the reclining rear seats for long trips. Great video!
Same reason my 07' FJ is probably the newest Toyota I will ever own. They're cutting corners like everyone else, charging more and you're getting less. Something I thought Toyota would never do.
I wish I had thought of this when I bought my 2011 Gen2 Tacoma in 2022. I was using a lot of the same logic, and no regrets but this Gen2 Tundra has all the things I wanted and couldn't quite get. Super excited to follow this build!!
I love my 2nd Gen Tundra 5.7l access cab. Definitely a longer wheel base than a jeep but such a wonderful vehicle. Can’t wait to see what you do to your new baby
This Kai dilemma really hit home for me. I knew previously that he had been looking at new Tacomas hard. Last year, I modified a 3rd gen Tacoma from stock using Kai's best specs blueprint from all his videos. This year, I re-modified my wife's new 2014 FJ Cruiser to Kai's FJ specs minus front long travel. Now, I drive my Taco as a day driver and my wife's FJ to go offloading. I can only imagine the dilemma Kai faced to find a pickup that met his detailed manufacture requirements if he was indeed going to go with a pickup. I agree that there are few pickup options with the same approach, breakover, and departure angles and clearances as good as today's offroad suvs. I love my Taco, but the modded 2014 FJ is as close to a 2014 Wrangler as it gets.
That truck has NEVER touched the salted roads of upstate NY. No vehicles survive that long up there especially Toyota pick-ups. Even with coating the frame with xyz product, you’d still have some surface rust. That truck hasn’t touched snow before lol. That’s an outlier right there.
This is amazing! Im a mechanical engineering student, and I want to go from a 2008 Tundra Crewmax to a 07-09 FJ. It's like we're doing it backward. I love your channel, watching your FJ series has been very informative
Bro, what an amazing channel. I literally just found you. I am in the market for my first Toyota Truck or SUV. I am looking at an Fj Cruiser, most likely 2010, or a Tundra. Your channel is something I will deep dive into. Thanks, and wish you all the best with your gem Tundra.
unfortunately they are ludicrously expensive these days, I have a 100 as well and I would love a big more power, but putting 8k into a truck worth at best 15k doesn't make sense
I have the same 2 door Tundra, it's a 2013 with the 5.7 litre V8 3UR FE, 381hp & 401 lb-ft. I also have the 2UZ in the 2007 100 series Land Cruiser. Both engines are bulletproof if u maintain them timely.
@@TinkerersAdventure There are some major advantages to your Tundra; V8, 6.5bed and most importantly the space behind the seats is likely 3x what I have in the Tacoma. Regardless, if you are traveling alone or with one person, it is really hard to beat the driveability!
I am soooo beyond happy you picked a Gen 2 Tundy!!!! I have a 2010 Dbl Cab with Bilstein 6112s and 5160's on 295/70r 18's . She has 175K on her but has been maintained well. Does not burn a drop of oil. I am excited to see what you do with your truck so maybe i can get some more ideas for mine. Nice pick man!!!
Nice video and in-depth review of the components. You're one of the very few that can delve into the details like that and still keep it interesting. I like how you approach your builds with a clear purpose. Congratz on the new truck and looking forward to your new build as it progresses.
Cam tower oil leaks, Oil rings on the pistons fuck up (actually they end up turning on the piston) and cause crazy oil consumption issues, the trucks themselves have brake pad/rotor issues. Water pump only last like 60k miles. Head gaskets like to go at around 200k. It not a "BAD" engine (or truck chassis for that matter) by any stretch of the imagination but its Also not 'the most reliable toyota enigne of all time" as some publications and news sources would like you to believe.
@@Baby.OffRoad 5.7 needs to be taken care of to last. Neglecting coolant will kill it over time. Whereas these late 90s early 2000s yota engines will just never die.
@@terrarecon Probably a handful or more of them, not everyone wants to do a social media thing with toyota when trading a car in, not to mention ones that eventually sat from sentimental reasons in someone's yard that may have made the mark. I know I changed the oil on a few personally, between 500k-750k when I was at Valvoline years ago.
Great video, Great truck. It'll be fun to watch your project progress. I have a 2010 CM Rock Warrior. It does have the 5.7 though. Excited to see what you do with yours. Have fun!
I bought an ‘08 Tundra w/5.7, double cab, 6.5’ bed to build. First was a 2.5” diameter Icon suspension front and back (3” front, 2” back lift). 35” K02’s, +25 offset Icon wheels, sway-bar defeat, and SPC adjustable uca’s. Lastly, for now, a flowmaster dump before the rear axle and full skid plates (engine, trans, t-case, gas tank, and rear diff.). I’m going to do bumpers, winch, lights, bed topper built out as a single sleeper, Re-gear to 4.88’s and a rear locker, relocated breathers for the diff and others, and lastly bed line/PPF parts of the paint which I already pin striped. I’m really interested to see what you do with yours😁
A brilliant break down of why you selected the vehicle you bought. Sometimes the older vehicles were designed better for your situation. I bought a Dual cab triton recently, in big part because it is one of the smallest dual cabs. I don't intend on loading it up too much. The short wheelbase, 118"; turning circle, 38.7'; and width of 71.5" made it perfect for me. yes the tray is shorter at about 5' (considered short here with most being 6'). But is means with minimal mods it is surprisingly capable. Newer models have all gone 2" wider, longer and heavier across all vehicles. I guess if and when I need to update next I am not sure where I will be looking.
I would look closer at Jeep Wrangler or for your case the Gladiator. I think you need more experience with Jeep. I saw your video on the Jeep vs Toyota and I can tell coming from Toyota myself to Jeep was a learning curve. For example, one of the issues you mentioned was the ride quality of your friend's Jeep, well that model has extended bumps and he was on 37s without either going to 35s, doing some trimming or lifting, either or both can get you more uptravel. Reliability with V6 is also good if you take better care of the engine and ignore the factory oil change specs etc. (which is true for all the OEM for CAFE reasons. I have been very impressed with how Jeep engineered the Wrangler. There is a lot of cumulative experience from decades - which is how Toyota used to be but is seeming to disregard now. Anyways, these issues are just the tip of the ice-berg for the future.
wheelbase was one of the most significant factors i considered when buying an off-roader. 2007 seems to be the lucky year as its the same as my 4runner. cant wait to see what you throw down in the RCSB!
No one makes a video like you. So so good! My favorite part was when you overlayed the wheel bases 👌. Congratulations on the new truck and nice seeing @4wdislife on here too!
Lol rock crawling is so lame! The only thing I'd be interested in is a good suspension that doesn't rattle my bones when I'm heading off-road to hunt, fish or camp. There's nothing fun about bouncing around in a cab for hours on end.
At the beginning of the video I was 100% sure there was no way I was going to get excited about an old boring build. Finished the video and now I can't wait to see that tundra in action.
You have to be nuts to buy a new gen Toyota/Lexus. Used to be you paid a reliability premium for Toyota/Lexus because it was built in Japan and would essentially run forever. Now you pay a premium for a vehicle manufactured in America/Mexico with zero reliability and old tech. It's like Toyota doesn't realize who their typical buyer is. Average Toyota/Lexus owner is smarter and wealthier than the typical buyer. You're not going to pull the wool over their eyes for long because we'll just buy a gmc/ford with way better tech and finishes for 20% less if we're having to roll the dice on reliability anyways. Ive bought my last two Toyotas until they return to their glory days. A 2019 Tundra and 2024 4Runner (last model before they switch to crap turbo engines).
Great video. You clearly and logically explained so many important points on design and how they impact functionality in the real-world application. I learned a lot. Thanks for taking the time to make such a solid video!
I had a V8 4-runner with that engine and it was sweeeet. The under-body rusted out at 200K due to salt on Wisconsin roads from Nov-March, but that engine was just barely getting broken in. Regardless of the official hp and torque, it felt like it had a lot more grunt than that, and an intoxicating baritone when you pushed it that you don't hear from other Toyota engines with 4-6 cylinders.
That search must have been painful! I remember looking for a 3rd gen 4Runner limited with the locker. I can't quite remember all the details, but it had a couple options that were only available for 2 or 3 years. I looked at so many rustbuckets that I eventually just gave up.
Nice to see we’re not alone in using our brains. I needed a NEW vehicle and decided my best bet was getting the last manual 3rd gen Tacoma. I’m feeling happier every day about my decision!
2014 last of regular cab 4 by 4 MANUAL 2.7 2t FE. THE last iron block motor. Though I forgot about the 4.7 v-8 FE iron block THANK You TA. Also my little truck is a fighter pilot and dive in and out of all others particularly tesla, and other sports cars HILARIOUS. Yes they get me eventually (but anyone can push a pedal) BUT my little truck power to weight ration and motor make it quick. Also I LOVE pulling up in my little Taco which towers above all the little sports car, ev thingies and laughing at them. Your regular cab 4.7 has similar power to weight ratio advantages AND looks good. BE diligent with maintenance and laugh at ALL the moderns as they peter-out, Good Job TA.
You explained Toyota technology more thoroughly in this video than ALL Toyota videos I have ever watched. You should use your ideas to compare the icon first gen Tacoma, 3rd gen 4Runner, etc and compare against the new ones.
Great find! I had no idea the rcsb had that much room behind the seats. I've only seen a handful, I think they're the best looking of the Tundras. 4.7 instead of 5.7 is a little unfortunate, but at least it's reliable.
I have a 2013 RCSB TRD off-road Tundra from new. Best vehicle I’ve ever owned, all things considered. (FYI, your new build project got me to subscribe)
I’m so glad to have been able to upgrade from my 2022 Suzuki Jimny (too many electronic warning devices) to a 2023 Land Cruiser 78 Troopy with factory fitted front and rear diff locks, Manual gearbox, 180 litres diesel tank, and of course a V8 diesel engine. Plus extremely few if any electronic devices. I still cannot believe you’re not allowed them in the US, but you still have the old-fashioned jeeps .. Keep up the great videos
FANTASTIC, A 2ND Gen Tundra, this is going to be a very good series to follow. What am i saying, i would watch whatever he put out. Just happensthati own a 2018 1794, SSSSOOOO, im very interested in this series
I love this video, because it validates everything I've been thinking about older Toyota trucks vs newer ones. EVERYTHING that Kai talks about here is why I just bought my lightly used 2023 4Runner, and did not want the new 6th gen for 2025. I'll probably be able to keep this thing for ages.
coming from an 08 Taco DCSB .. decided i wanted something larger for full time truck camper... picked up a 2020 ram 2500 RCLB with a flatbed conversion ... its nice fitting in a standard length parking spot!
Awesome channel. I just purchased a 04’ GX470 for 3k. It has 257k miles, owned by a teacher, aside from the interior being gummy bear and chocolate bar dirty. It runs great.
Hell yeah, after doing a bunch of research, I ended up going with the 06 LX470 since it was the 3rd 100 series revision with stronger diffs, 5spd auto, and vvti for 330lb ft torque.
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It’s been a while. Hope you all have been well
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@@JonDZ_Adventuring yo JON!
@@Dy-fv1xd Thanks and same to you!
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In a single 20 minute video, you have answered nearly all the questions that have been burning in my mind for several years over my next off-road vehicle.
2007 wasn't 17 years ago it was... it was... 17 years ago oh god. Love these technical videos, it goes a lot deeper than the surface "it's good off road" most reviewers say because it has big wheels and a badge
I feel that about it being 17 years ago. I keep forgetting I’m almost 40 and not in my early 20s anymore until the pain in my neck and the grays in my beard remind me how old I really am.
The reasoning with the video is multi-layers deeper than the average vehicle review videos on RUclips. This is quality stuff.
We old bro... We old.
Yes we are, 61 here 2021 Tundra plt,2023 4 runner ORP👍👍
Just turned 65 here, with a 15 yr old Tundra, 14 yr old FJ, and a 5 yr old RAV4. First two have just hit 80k, and the RAV, 20k.
It’s all wearing me out 😂.
RCSB prices 📈📈📈
They've been that way. I've been looking for a clean one with a 5.7 forever.
@secret5. There is tow in the next car dealer of my house
@@CTR_Dan One of the most famous Tundras is a RCSB that a guy spent $$ custom making because it didnt exist in fhe exact configuration he wanted (specifically, the 2014+ style update). They are the style of Tundra that are required if you want to seriously race the trucks too.
they are already
I've been saving up for a 2nd gen tundra and this guy goes and annihilates the market which still hasnt recovered from COVID bullshit. AAAAAHHHHH
You coined a new phrase : de-bro a truck. That was hilarious. Great video and love your analytics of how you landed on this unicorn Tundra. I would love to get the GX550, but the engine worries me and now you showed another aspect that I did not even consider yet with the front overhang. I'll stick with my GX470 until the engine quits.
I just finished de-broing mine, lol.
million mile V8 in that GX proven by medical delivery drivers, youll be sticking with it alright lol
@@Persocondes That was the point, I love my GX and with just a few mods it can keep up styling wise not to look like a 20year old truck. Every major YT'er that was invited to the Toyota events has been promoting the new line up, but all you get is more worries that something could go wrong. Can you imagine how a turbo 4 or 6 could last anywhere close to even 1/4 million miles? I can't
💯. I landed on an 07 gx470 years ago for the 2UZ-FE and never looked back. The new GX550 looks great but I have the same concerns.
I went back and forth about “bro-ing” my suspension until a video here put the decision to rest. She remains “unbro-ed”. 😆
Thanks for all the good content and community you’re developing.👍🏼
Until your Gx470 quits? lol it will outlive us all 😅
I have a 5.7L Tundra and it’s easily the best vehicle I’ve ever owned. I am very excited to see what you do with your very unique 4.7. This is the kind of content that makes your channel one of my favorite.
That overlay you did with the wheelbase lengths around @12:20 was just 🤌
Welcome to the 2UZ-FE club! I can't buy new turbo'd toyota while there are plenty of great v8s left.
2uz gang (gx470 in my cse)
@@daltonbedore8396 Me too! 190k and a combined 18.2mpg. It needs an exhaust, ac compressor and timing belt is due, but running good.
2UZ sitting in my garage waiting to go into my 65 FJ40 once I wrap up the 1UZ swap in my 85 4Runner.
05 4runner sport in my case
Wow! I didn’t realize the reg cab had so much space behind the seats! That’s nice bro!
@@MandEmma7 Right? Thats nearly the same size at the 2022+ crewmax backseat 🤣
yeah that was a good selling point when I bought mine couple years ago I have toyed with the idea of putting a side bench tacoma seat there as I have a console two seaters ,
Same. Now I want one. I have no use for the crewmax cab. It's excessive.
From an old school Jeep wheeler/builder (TJ) that just discovered your channel, I appreciate your criteria, evaluation and clear presentation. I'll be keeping an eye on this build.
Your honesty, testing and explanation of things is so refreshing and mindful, it's perfect. Thank you for not being like every auto review critic on youtube just pushing new models and getting paid to do it. Awesome work as always!
The amount of space in that single cab blows my mind, I’m jealous of it
EXCELLENT CHOICE!
Looking forward to the NO-BRO build.
Don't forget tall narrow tires are better than wide bro tires.............lol
In the world of automotive channels this one doesn’t have that many subs but in terms of production quality and the informative value this is one of the best videos out there.
as an owner of a 2016 Tundra SR5 DC I love the single cab (but the Tundy is my trailer tower and we usually have 4 adults). As a hobbyist wrencher I can't tell you how much I appreciate you going back to an older vehicle to mod it, for offroading, on RUclips, in 2024. This will be the most unique build this decade.
I had no idea they skimped on the suspension mounts and tie rods. Really puts a damper on the upcoming 4Runner which I've been looking forward to.
Buy the current one. The last great Toyota
We see the general trend in the automotive industry: engines getting smaller with big turbos, thick metal getting replaced with thinner metals, all these for the sake of fuel economy while massively sacrificing reliability. Also everyone is putting in big screens and “sporty handling” to please the crowd of reviewers.
I LOVE my RCSB. 2007 4x4 4.7L V8, 5 speed column shift. I will never get rid if it. It is so damn reliable. The bed was rotted in the corners when I bought but the frame was spotless. I recently changed the bed from a wrecked one and the truck juat does everything I ask of it. Could not find rock warrior wheels for it so I got some Icon that are pretty close and some 285/70-17 duratracs. I wish I had saved the rock warrior wheels from my 2015 I had found. Ohh well truck is awesome even though it is two colors right now 😅
This guy just gets wheeling. Amazing content that is useful. He articulates all the nuances we obsess about, right down to axle shaft spline count and wheel well measurements etc…
As a LC200 owner.. you made the right choice, this is baller as hell. Can’t wait!
Fantastic video it’s great that you showed that the second GEN tundra was better than all of the new vehicles. I love the way you showed thickness of all the brackets underneath the truck and really got into the details of everything you are a great RUclipsr
I truly love the measurements and very specific traits we all think of when comparing all of these Toyota/Lexus. This is the most extensive analytical view of these vehicles I have ever seen! Truly excellent!
Geez, I forgot how HUGE the single cabs on the second-gen Tundras were… you’re right, that is a VERY rare Tundra. I really like the profile of that truck, and the 4.7 is the most reliable of the Tundra engines by FAR.
It's refreshing to hear someone speak the truth (backed up by hard data) about the new Toyotas. It's shameful some of the garbage I hear from guys who are so transparently externally motivated to make people believe these vehicles are somehow better - most of which are owners of aftermarket parts manufacturers/resellers, Land Cruiser Museum employees and, of course, the media "SMEs" who only care about whether or not they're invited to the next Toyota media event.
Kai is the only one who measures 2mm using a tap measure without anyone questioning his preciseness 😎
haha i got caught
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Your vids are a god send. You helped me decide what mods I actually need. My 07 fj is nearly perfect for my daily and off road needs. The previous owner was an aircraft mechanic and did a damn good job taking care of it. My only concern is the transmission services. He didn’t have them on record so I haven’t touched the trans. Bought it at 168k and now it’s just over 220k miles. Ive rebuilt the whole suspension (3” front & 1” rear) and some steering components. I do believe my steering rack is going out now but besides that it has been a dream. I plan on keeping her for as long as she’ll run.
I had no idea this thing existed. That's incredible. What a truck...
Wait until you learn they put this engine in a 4runner for a couple of years.
@cavedog1279 My parents had one growing up, which is what made me get a GX470 later down the road lol. These Tundras are much more beefy and I bet they don't need an axle swap to run 37s
Your reasoning also explains why the 2nd gen sequoia is gaining popularity offroad even with independent suspension. Bombproof and very capable platform. I'm looking forward to the build!
Wow I’m happy for you and jealous, I wish Toyota still made the RCSB tundra. So then you basically have a Tacoma sized V8, thank you for you all your technical knowledge and sharing them.
That was a great video, I love how specific you are and why you made the decisions that you did. I'm excited to see the build!
200 frame is not the same as the Tundra. According to Toyota’s press materials of the period, the LC200 frame is 20% stiffer than the frame of the 2g tundra. The frame is boxed only to the back of the cab: it’s open c-channel to the tailgate. 200 series is fully boxed. Also you didn’t mention your choice is the only one with rear leaf springs.
Less effective maybe? But durable and reliable. I have always wanted to take the 2g Sequoia rear frame and Frankenstein it into a SWB tundra. Fully independent tundra + 5.7
You’re correct
@@accordv6erlol just buy a Land Cruiser
@accordv6er I had the same idea, specifically for extended the Tundra frame (6.5 bed onto a crewmax). After much research I ended up concluding the frame being boxed/not really doesnt make enough difference, the frames limitiation is how thin it is (I was hoping to gain extra payload in the process).
@@AA-vr8ez I have 2 GX470s. Coil is coil. But I mean actual independent.
That's a great looking truck. Here in Australia I'll be keeping my 2018 LC200 4.5L V8 diesel for a while.
Dude FUCK YES.
I am so excited to see you build your 2nd gen out and provide us with some real data/numbers.
Trying to base my decisions off your prado platform info has been great but not always as easy.
Thanks for saving this vehicle from Bro Truck world. Also, I appreciate the full transparency on how cheaply they’re cutting corners on newer trucks and charging a small fortune for them. Instant sub to this channel.
I love my 4.7 but I think I’d go with the 5.7 RCSB personally. Those have hit a million miles too!
My daily driver for the last 5 years is a 2007 Tundra RCSB with the 4.7. It's currently at 289k miles. I have added every single bit of modern technology that I prefer.....back up camera, touchscreen infotainment system, LED lighting everywhere, etc etc. Of course lots of off road upgrades as well. I get compliments on it almost every day. It's my favorite vehicle I have ever owned and plan on keeping it as long as I possibly can.
The cast iron UZ series V8s will always be the most reliable Toyota V8s ever but the successor UR series is the perfect balance of power and longevity, where 1 million mile examples also exist.
Change the oil & filter every 5k or sooner, also flush the cooling system every 5 years or 50k and your UR will treat you very well.
First and foremost, congrats on the new build. Just bought a ‘new to me’ ‘08 sequoia for the same reason. 5.7 V8 though. 1 owner. Completely undercoated from the bottom. Lived its life in the Bronx it’s whole life. Only 67k miles on the clock. I’ve filmed a lot of content and wanna start a channel. But I’m super scared to start lol.
Wow, Toyota really cheapened the the frame and suspension mounts on the new platforms. That's insane. Toyota definitely won't hold the crown for most reliable off-roaders anymore... shits gonna be way too easy to brake
Everyone is lowering quality. I'm gonna keep my 06 4Runner and 08 Lexus for quite a while.
@@AFS-ht7bg good plan. Good generations for those vehicles. I had an 07 fj cruiser that must've been a lemon cause it broke down constantly, but no one else I know with a Toyota from that time has had much issue with em
Before I had a child, I would casually go to the dealer on Fridays off during the earlier 2010s and just look at and sit in the cars in the showroom. You could feel quality step-downs with each iteration of the Camry and the RAV4. They would look more modern, but everything including the door/fender skins would be thinned. We had a 3rd gen RAV4 Sport V6- and although the interior was spartan and somewhat boring, it was still more durable feeling than the 4th and 5th gen. Just about as storage area as a 4Runner well.
It really doesn't surprise me that the platform itself is being thinned out..Toyota would spin it as weight savings for fuel efficiency.
@mattb9664 I feel that way between my grandparents 2024 chevy Colorado and my 2003 tahoe or my stepsons 2021 audi suv. Yeah they're more refined, quicker, and comfortable but neither will take the beatings I dish out nor will they survive scraping against rocks and trees like my tahoe has. I've ran up against trees and even the OE plastic fender flares stayed in place, I wouldn't even trust the metal fenders to stay in place on newer vehicles.
Even if their quality halves, they will still ironically be the most reliable off roaders. That’s how trash the rest of the competition is.
Purchased a 24 tundra crewmax 6.5 bed last month, this month going back to the 2nd GEN (21) crewmax. Loved my previous 2010 and I’m glad I corrected my pricy mistake! I want to build out the 21 a little different then what I did with the 2010..I’m hoping to find some info on your build that I could use on mine! Looking forward to it!
Wheelbase is def a problem on full size trucks. I had a 157" wheelbase F150 and every dumb obstacle on the trail was just reaching up to try and take a piece of the rockers. The truck had something like 14" of clearance to the center of the frame between the tires, vs my GX460 with a lift that only had like 11-12", but my GX460 could do the same obstacles without even thinking about it. My F150 I had to pick perfect lines for everything.
Never mind that it had the turning circle of something like 50'. There was a lot of trails where I simply couldn't get the truck down without damaging it.
That said, putting 35's or 37's on a full size truck is a lot easier and so you can get the thing up in the air. This RCSB tundra with some big tires should have clearance and breakover for days.
I got a 200 series in February. An LX570 specifically. The more I read and see about the new TNGA trucks, the happier I am with my decision. While I would prefer the power and torque of the 3.4L TT because I tow at high elevations, the rest of the 200 series is just so stout. And if I really needed more power, there are bolt on blower kits.
Also, AHC on the LX570 is phenominal.
Love this as a fanboy on Tacoma number 13 and can’t stomach the new gen (and yes to those I can afford one not financing it). Looking forward to this build.
My parents are the 2nd owners of a 13 Tundra SR5 Crewmax FFV since 50,000 miles. It now has 175,000 miles and still runs like a clock and the absolute BIGGEST feature that it has that secured this truck as their forever full-size truck are the reclining rear seats for long trips. Great video!
Now with Rock Warrior wheels?! Sheesh thats nice
Same reason my 07' FJ is probably the newest Toyota I will ever own.
They're cutting corners like everyone else, charging more and you're getting less.
Something I thought Toyota would never do.
Alright I’m already 45 minutes behind everyone searching autotrader for this model…go go go!
I wish I had thought of this when I bought my 2011 Gen2 Tacoma in 2022. I was using a lot of the same logic, and no regrets but this Gen2 Tundra has all the things I wanted and couldn't quite get. Super excited to follow this build!!
Do a full review and specs on LC200 , looks very intresting
I love my 2nd Gen Tundra 5.7l access cab. Definitely a longer wheel base than a jeep but such a wonderful vehicle. Can’t wait to see what you do to your new baby
F yah! I just bought a 5.7L 4x4 07 double cab last month.
This Kai dilemma really hit home for me. I knew previously that he had been looking at new Tacomas hard. Last year, I modified a 3rd gen Tacoma from stock using Kai's best specs blueprint from all his videos. This year, I re-modified my wife's new 2014 FJ Cruiser to Kai's FJ specs minus front long travel.
Now, I drive my Taco as a day driver and my wife's FJ to go offloading.
I can only imagine the dilemma Kai faced to find a pickup that met his detailed manufacture requirements if he was indeed going to go with a pickup. I agree that there are few pickup options with the same approach, breakover, and departure angles and clearances as good as today's offroad suvs. I love my Taco, but the modded 2014 FJ is as close to a 2014 Wrangler as it gets.
That truck has NEVER touched the salted roads of upstate NY. No vehicles survive that long up there especially Toyota pick-ups. Even with coating the frame with xyz product, you’d still have some surface rust.
That truck hasn’t touched snow before lol.
That’s an outlier right there.
This is amazing! Im a mechanical engineering student, and I want to go from a 2008 Tundra Crewmax to a 07-09 FJ. It's like we're doing it backward. I love your channel, watching your FJ series has been very informative
Brb buying a regular cab short bed 2007 toyota tundra
I hope you got 25k or more in cash for a 400k mile truck 😢
Bro, what an amazing channel. I literally just found you. I am in the market for my first Toyota Truck or SUV. I am looking at an Fj Cruiser, most likely 2010, or a Tundra. Your channel is something I will deep dive into. Thanks, and wish you all the best with your gem Tundra.
Also, as a 2UZ-FE owner in an 2005 100, you need a TRD Supercharger
unfortunately they are ludicrously expensive these days, I have a 100 as well and I would love a big more power, but putting 8k into a truck worth at best 15k doesn't make sense
@@origamihawk true. But that Tundra was MAYBE 10-12k. Probably less. And even with 40k in mods still cheaper than a new LC 250
I have the same 2 door Tundra, it's a 2013 with the 5.7 litre V8 3UR FE, 381hp & 401 lb-ft. I also have the 2UZ in the 2007 100 series Land Cruiser. Both engines are bulletproof if u maintain them timely.
Regular Cab 2nd Gen tacoma owner here. Glad to see support for more RCs, I think you made the correct choice but I'm biased =D
Love the regular cab 2nd gens. I actually started looking at those before the tundra. 6 ft bed in 4Runner wheel base is nuts.
@@TinkerersAdventure There are some major advantages to your Tundra; V8, 6.5bed and most importantly the space behind the seats is likely 3x what I have in the Tacoma. Regardless, if you are traveling alone or with one person, it is really hard to beat the driveability!
Bro I have a 2 door 2014 taco and now want one of these RCSBs!!
I am soooo beyond happy you picked a Gen 2 Tundy!!!! I have a 2010 Dbl Cab with Bilstein 6112s and 5160's on 295/70r 18's . She has 175K on her but has been maintained well. Does not burn a drop of oil. I am excited to see what you do with your truck so maybe i can get some more ideas for mine. Nice pick man!!!
Thanks for the shoutout Kai. 🎉❤
Nice video and in-depth review of the components. You're one of the very few that can delve into the details like that and still keep it interesting. I like how you approach your builds with a clear purpose. Congratz on the new truck and looking forward to your new build as it progresses.
Why not the 5.7L 3UR-FE? What's wrong with an aluminum block?
Cam tower oil leaks, Oil rings on the pistons fuck up (actually they end up turning on the piston) and cause crazy oil consumption issues, the trucks themselves have brake pad/rotor issues. Water pump only last like 60k miles. Head gaskets like to go at around 200k. It not a "BAD" engine (or truck chassis for that matter) by any stretch of the imagination but its Also not 'the most reliable toyota enigne of all time" as some publications and news sources would like you to believe.
Watch the videos from 'the car care nut'.
@@crisnmaryfam7344there’s like 6. 5.7s with a million miles 😂
There’s nothing “wrong”. It’s all relative speaking. It’s not black and white good vs bad
@@Baby.OffRoad 5.7 needs to be taken care of to last. Neglecting coolant will kill it over time. Whereas these late 90s early 2000s yota engines will just never die.
In a very good way, you are a true truck nerd. So fun and knowledgeable to watch and learn from your videos. Please keep inspiring
13:31 Dude actually did that to i think 4 separate trucks...ALL OF THEM made it to a million miles. Ford eat your heart out.
There is even at least a Tundra with one of the 5.7L V-8s that has gone over 1 million miles.
@@terrarecon Probably a handful or more of them, not everyone wants to do a social media thing with toyota when trading a car in, not to mention ones that eventually sat from sentimental reasons in someone's yard that may have made the mark. I know I changed the oil on a few personally, between 500k-750k when I was at Valvoline years ago.
Great video, Great truck. It'll be fun to watch your project progress. I have a 2010 CM Rock Warrior. It does have the 5.7 though. Excited to see what you do with yours. Have fun!
Yeah, but try pulling anything with that 2.4. The 2UZ will still be running long after the new platforms are filling scrap yards
I bought an ‘08 Tundra w/5.7, double cab, 6.5’ bed to build. First was a 2.5” diameter Icon suspension front and back (3” front, 2” back lift). 35” K02’s, +25 offset Icon wheels, sway-bar defeat, and SPC adjustable uca’s. Lastly, for now, a flowmaster dump before the rear axle and full skid plates (engine, trans, t-case, gas tank, and rear diff.). I’m going to do bumpers, winch, lights, bed topper built out as a single sleeper, Re-gear to 4.88’s and a rear locker, relocated breathers for the diff and others, and lastly bed line/PPF parts of the paint which I already pin striped. I’m really interested to see what you do with yours😁
That Tundra looks so goofy as a RCSB
A brilliant break down of why you selected the vehicle you bought. Sometimes the older vehicles were designed better for your situation.
I bought a Dual cab triton recently, in big part because it is one of the smallest dual cabs. I don't intend on loading it up too much. The short wheelbase, 118"; turning circle, 38.7'; and width of 71.5" made it perfect for me. yes the tray is shorter at about 5' (considered short here with most being 6'). But is means with minimal mods it is surprisingly capable. Newer models have all gone 2" wider, longer and heavier across all vehicles. I guess if and when I need to update next I am not sure where I will be looking.
That moment when Tinkerer's wished he lived in Australia.....
He could, just show up from Asia…unannounced 😂
@@MJ-fj9yv He's American. if you were trying to make a political joke... fail.
Not many Tundra’s in Oz
I knew immediately the one rare feature with it having the 2UZ. I absolutely love it in my 4th gen 4runner.
I would look closer at Jeep Wrangler or for your case the Gladiator. I think you need more experience with Jeep. I saw your video on the Jeep vs Toyota and I can tell coming from Toyota myself to Jeep was a learning curve. For example, one of the issues you mentioned was the ride quality of your friend's Jeep, well that model has extended bumps and he was on 37s without either going to 35s, doing some trimming or lifting, either or both can get you more uptravel. Reliability with V6 is also good if you take better care of the engine and ignore the factory oil change specs etc. (which is true for all the OEM for CAFE reasons. I have been very impressed with how Jeep engineered the Wrangler. There is a lot of cumulative experience from decades - which is how Toyota used to be but is seeming to disregard now.
Anyways, these issues are just the tip of the ice-berg for the future.
wheelbase was one of the most significant factors i considered when buying an off-roader. 2007 seems to be the lucky year as its the same as my 4runner. cant wait to see what you throw down in the RCSB!
80 percent of people who buys trucks midsize or full size does nothing like you do.. Walmart , Costco mall 👍🏼..
No one makes a video like you. So so good! My favorite part was when you overlayed the wheel bases 👌. Congratulations on the new truck and nice seeing @4wdislife on here too!
Lol rock crawling is so lame! The only thing I'd be interested in is a good suspension that doesn't rattle my bones when I'm heading off-road to hunt, fish or camp. There's nothing fun about bouncing around in a cab for hours on end.
Clearly you are watching the wrong channel then. Or your hobby is trolling.
At the beginning of the video I was 100% sure there was no way I was going to get excited about an old boring build. Finished the video and now I can't wait to see that tundra in action.
You have to be nuts to buy a new gen Toyota/Lexus. Used to be you paid a reliability premium for Toyota/Lexus because it was built in Japan and would essentially run forever. Now you pay a premium for a vehicle manufactured in America/Mexico with zero reliability and old tech. It's like Toyota doesn't realize who their typical buyer is. Average Toyota/Lexus owner is smarter and wealthier than the typical buyer. You're not going to pull the wool over their eyes for long because we'll just buy a gmc/ford with way better tech and finishes for 20% less if we're having to roll the dice on reliability anyways. Ive bought my last two Toyotas until they return to their glory days. A 2019 Tundra and 2024 4Runner (last model before they switch to crap turbo engines).
new 4Runner, Land Cruiser 250, GX550, LX600 are still all built in Japan. The Tundra and Tacoma in any of previous generations were built in Japan
Great video. You clearly and logically explained so many important points on design and how they impact functionality in the real-world application. I learned a lot. Thanks for taking the time to make such a solid video!
Love your videos man.
They are one of a kind. Keep them coming! This will be a fun build to follow! “de-bro” had me rolling
I had a V8 4-runner with that engine and it was sweeeet. The under-body rusted out at 200K due to salt on Wisconsin roads from Nov-March, but that engine was just barely getting broken in. Regardless of the official hp and torque, it felt like it had a lot more grunt than that, and an intoxicating baritone when you pushed it that you don't hear from other Toyota engines with 4-6 cylinders.
That search must have been painful! I remember looking for a 3rd gen 4Runner limited with the locker. I can't quite remember all the details, but it had a couple options that were only available for 2 or 3 years. I looked at so many rustbuckets that I eventually just gave up.
Nice to see we’re not alone in using our brains. I needed a NEW vehicle and decided my best bet was getting the last manual 3rd gen Tacoma. I’m feeling happier every day about my decision!
The best part is we get to watch the Tundra build, and then watch a 200 series build about 3 years later.
2014 last of regular cab 4 by 4 MANUAL 2.7 2t FE. THE last iron block motor. Though I forgot about the 4.7 v-8 FE iron block THANK You TA. Also my little truck is a fighter pilot and dive in and out of all others particularly tesla, and other sports cars HILARIOUS. Yes they get me eventually (but anyone can push a pedal) BUT my little truck power to weight ration and motor make it quick. Also I LOVE pulling up in my little Taco which towers above all the little sports car, ev thingies and laughing at them. Your regular cab 4.7 has similar power to weight ratio advantages AND looks good. BE diligent with maintenance and laugh at ALL the moderns as they peter-out, Good Job TA.
You explained Toyota technology more thoroughly in this video than ALL Toyota videos I have ever watched. You should use your ideas to compare the icon first gen Tacoma, 3rd gen 4Runner, etc and compare against the new ones.
I'm glad you are here to answer all the questions I don't know enough about to ask.
Thanks for going in technical depth into all these trucks and SUVs. Truly unique perspectives I don’t get from most superficial car reviews.
I've watched a few of your videos in the past, this one has pushed me to subscribe. Keep up the good work. De-bro trucking your new truck is awesome.
Great find! I had no idea the rcsb had that much room behind the seats. I've only seen a handful, I think they're the best looking of the Tundras. 4.7 instead of 5.7 is a little unfortunate, but at least it's reliable.
I have a 2013 RCSB TRD off-road Tundra from new. Best vehicle I’ve ever owned, all things considered.
(FYI, your new build project got me to subscribe)
I’m so glad to have been able to upgrade from my 2022 Suzuki Jimny (too many electronic warning devices) to a 2023 Land Cruiser 78 Troopy with factory fitted front and rear diff locks, Manual gearbox, 180 litres diesel tank, and of course a V8 diesel engine.
Plus extremely few if any electronic devices.
I still cannot believe you’re not allowed them in the US, but you still have the old-fashioned jeeps ..
Keep up the great videos
FANTASTIC, A 2ND Gen Tundra, this is going to be a very good series to follow. What am i saying, i would watch whatever he put out. Just happensthati own a 2018 1794, SSSSOOOO, im very interested in this series
Just picked up a 2014 LC and couldn’t be happier. Love this rig
I love this video, because it validates everything I've been thinking about older Toyota trucks vs newer ones. EVERYTHING that Kai talks about here is why I just bought my lightly used 2023 4Runner, and did not want the new 6th gen for 2025. I'll probably be able to keep this thing for ages.
coming from an 08 Taco DCSB .. decided i wanted something larger for full time truck camper... picked up a 2020 ram 2500 RCLB with a flatbed conversion ... its nice fitting in a standard length parking spot!
Awesome channel. I just purchased a 04’ GX470 for 3k. It has 257k miles, owned by a teacher, aside from the interior being gummy bear and chocolate bar dirty. It runs great.
Love the new (old) truck. What a great truck. All of my research led me to purchase a CPO 200 series (LX 570.)
Hell yeah, after doing a bunch of research, I ended up going with the 06 LX470 since it was the 3rd 100 series revision with stronger diffs, 5spd auto, and vvti for 330lb ft torque.