Sonic 3D Blast VS. Sonic 3D Blast
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- The Sega Saturn was a weird time for Sega and the Sonic Series. The closest thing we got to a mainline game was Sonic 3D Blast. which was a port of the Genesis game. but the different versions have a lot of differences between each other. so let's compare them and see which one is better
Chapters
00:00 - 3D Blast
1:00 - Intros
2:05 - Visual and Technical Differences
4:19 - Different OST
7:47 - Other Differences
8:46 - Which is better?
10:00 - Conclusion 
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Also the Saturn ost is extremely underrated, people need to appreciate it more. It's basically sonic CD but expanded
I wouldn’t say it’s like CD. I definitely sound more similar to sonic R
@@shaulov10 sonic r is more energetic and upbeat, while Saturn 3d blast feels more atmospheric and "real" since the music actually fits the stages
True, I really love Rusty Ruins.
@@Terminal_Apotos rusty ruins saturn is AMAZING
@@NoNamex1412it got me through long nights when I needed to lock in doing boring ass homework 😂
3D Blast on the Saturn was actually never supposed to exist.
3D Blast genesis was supposed to be a dual release Sonic X Treme but when that got canceled they just ported 3d blast instead
And your telling me this now?
@@shaulov10 yea
It was done in a few weeks on top of the original genesis code, crazy stuff
@@playbossthebest936Insane how such a pretty game was made in this little time
@@shaulov10 yeah, this is known fact. It's impressive to me they did the Sonic 3D Blast Saturn version in such short notice.
The fact that Traverl's Tales actually MADE a 13 second intro running on a genesis is impressive enough.
They don't get enough credit for actually making the genesis look and run more powerful than you and others think.
this channel is a dev from that company, and he goes in depth on how it works ruclips.net/video/IehwV2K60r8/видео.htmlsi=4C8R6ZywSoEr_LN9 (i hope this is the right vid, i didnt actually watch it rn)
Exactly 👍
Jon burton based gamehut basee
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I 3D blasted all over my screen
Ok guy
Me whenever I see Knuckles:
me when i play this game (i love this game /srs)
@@RawrX32009 WHAA
no brain
Director's cut is actually great. The numerous tweaks go a long way
I still haven’t played it yet but I know they add super sonic
@@shaulov10 that's nothing. Try it out, you'll be surprised
@@shaulov10 that's nothing compared to everything else added. Try it out, you'll be surprised
I hope that John makes a definitive version of 3D Blast Saturn, cause I prefer it over the Genesis version.
@@stasing_0718 he didn't work on the saturn port, so I don't think he'll touch that version anytime soon
Hear me out :
Take the Saturn version and add content from the director's cut and the ability to toggle between the Genesis OST (but remixed) and the Saturn OST and BOOM, The ULTIMATE version of Sonic 3D Blast
Disagree. Genesis soundtrack is catchy but the Saturn one is better. Has more emotion and atmosphere.
@@KingdomHeartsBrawlerthat's just your nostalgia talking. What he's saying makes more sense, that Saturn soundtrack is sick as a stand alone thing but it doesn't suit Sonic in the slightest
nah nah. saturn soundtrack remixed to be similar to sonic's sound
@@KingdomHeartsBrawler Nop, OST on the Saturn is worst, very generic.
Is possible to add the Directors Cut content into the Saturn version?
Fun fact: The Genesis version of Sonic 3D Blast never actually released in Japan, the game only got its Japanese debut a year after Sonic Adventure released their and over a year after the Saturn was phased out for the Dreamcast.
Interesting
that's also the reason why Sonic Adventure reuse some of the 3D Blast Genesis soundtrack.
Fun fact one of the dudes in charge of this game made a director's cut version with some restored cut content like super sonic. Thats my favorite version of 3d blast. Underrated game.
Definitely the definitive version
The Saturn has the best bonus stages.
In ANY Sonic game.
People who say half pipe stages are bad likely started with Heroes where they were at their worst.
DS trilogy special stages sweep
CD special stages sweep
I started with the classics and still don't like Sonic 2's special stages. I much prefer Sonic 3's special stages.
4:43 Richard Ja-what now?!
Ja-Cweeeeze
For anyone who didn't know, it's Jacques, a fairly common name of French origin. Jacqueline, its feminine counterpart, shows up more often in the States. Anyway, Jacques is pronounced like "Jahck" (or "Jock" I guess, but that feels wrong). The "qu" makes a K sound in French, and the "es" is silent. The "J" is also a little different, being softer than an English J, but that's minor and hard to explain.
I will defend Sonic 3D Blast with my heart and soul, I played it on a crappy emulator but I had a 3D Blast playing it.
I see what you did there
I was absolutely floored the first time i saw that intro coming from my Sega Genesis, think i saw a video where even having it there was a technological achievement
Saturn isn’t a filler console, have you played its library?
American Sega Saturn library moment 💀
This..
@@RawrX32009and I doubt that because there's some killer variety in the USA library
You're asking a Sonic Fan to give a shit about the rest of Sega
@@nobodycares5050 Lol real
I'm in both fanbases and Sega illiteracy is common with Sonic fans 😅😅😅
also a note on the genesis 3d blast special stages, they DO get harder but Tails and Knuckles have their own list of 7 each and alternating between both means you never get to the hard one
The Saturn has lots of great games. No way is it a filler console.
To be fair the voice of the commentator doesn’t sound like he would know/have a grasp on what was going on with/around the Saturn lol.
Unfortunately nearly none of them hit stateside. One of the biggest errors of SEGA of America.
The Saturn was really weak in the western parts of the world. You had to import the JP console and games to have the "true experience", but good luck with the language barrier.
@marcelosoares7148 Yeah, you are missing out on a good chunk of great games if you don't play the Japanese library, but there are still plenty of great Saturn games that came to the West. Plus, there are plenty of fan translations continually being made for Saturn games.
If anything Saturn was the last system by sega that didn't reek of desperation.
It still had plenty of desperation in it, what with the second CPU that was implemented so well all of 3 games could even use it, but unlike the Dreamcast, most of the library isn't horribly rushed.
Dreamcast was especially bad in Japan where pretty much every game that was even remotely popular was released twice within a year, not with heaps of additional content but with bug fixes and those weren't free updates of couse, you had to buy the game again to have it be less of a mess.
Surprisingly there's actually another difference between the PC and the Saturn version besides the FPS on the CG cutscenes. The special stages are different. The halfpipe looks different and Sonic actually looks more like his in-game character than that other model they have them as on that Saturn version of the special stages.
I personally prefer the Genesis version and it may be because of the music. I did once have the PC version back when I was a kid in the late '90s or was the mid '90s and forget when I got it but it was when Jack in the box you could get various PC games of well Sega games with your kids meal. There was Sonic 3D blast, there was this Sonic and knuckles collection that included Sonic the Hedgehog 3, Sonic and knuckles, as well as Sonic 3 and knuckles, and then there was a non-sonic game I also played called Bug. On a video I saw last year I found out there was actually another game from Jack in the box that I wasn't aware of at the time. I forget which game it was though but I'm pretty sure it was another Sega Saturn game
the saturn had more games than n64 it had over 1000, no way it was a filler console lol
The Saturn was not a filler console. True, it was much less successful than the PlayStation and Nintendo 64, but there are plenty of awesome games that are unique experiences on the Saturn, especially if you explore the vast Japanese game library.
May 23, 2024 10:01 am
the saturn had way more games than n64, n64 didnt even have 500 while the saturn had over 1000
@@lemon5000-tj6nv it makes me wonder how SEGA botched the international release of that console so hard.
There is also the 1997 PC version, which is almost the same as the Saturn version, but it has completely different special stages. Also half-pipes, but they looked exceptionally unfinished and unbalanced.
Eh? The saturn was like having arcade games in your bedroom, sega rally anyone?
One thing I hate about Saturn version is it's LOADING TIMES specially when you collect a chaos emerald it takes too much time
This is a pretty good game in my opinion, despite it not playing like a sonic game but who cares Mario 64 didn’t feel like Mario either
I had it on the PC when I was a kid. I was absolutely blown away by the Rusty Ruins music. Played it on Genesis at a friends house and it bizarre to be how different they were, I just assumed one of us had a bootleg at the time
I had never seen that pic of Sonic at 9:44. Thank you for sharing that; I admit, I like it more than I probably should.
Awesome video, dude! As someone who grew up with neither version, I enjoy the OST to the Saturn version more, but mainly because of Rusty Ruin sounding like an Enigma song.
Tbh I love the saturn version it has more polish to it and the soundtrack is really great and the fact some of the soundtrack from 3d blast saturn or genesis in sonic chronicles is wild 💀💀💀
Saturn is it's own enjoyable experience honestly
It’s really up to preference
I'm a Sega fan boy. Anything negative i put my fingers in my ears and go 'nah nah nah not listening' lol...
Having said that: -
Sega were amazing pioneers and innovators throughout the 80's/90's. Their tech was forward thinking and driven by innovation, at times to the detriment of profit or public image. Their arcade heritage is undisputed.
The Sega Saturn is an amazing console, on paper. They needed to hit the ground running. And their marketing, global business strategy and inability to 'course correct' when they could see failure were big factors in their untimely demise.
Prior to Saturn: Sega of America at the time was absolutely killing it. Genesis sales were off the charts, the console war was in full swing with Nintendo. Sega released the 32X to amazing initial sales. Sega Of Japan did not want the 32X to impede sales of the Saturn which was soon to be unveiled.
32X got set aside. A huge mistake. Consumer confidence took a hit. Why kill a console/add on within a year of retail? Why buy something that won't last?
Sega planned a system called the Neptune which would have brought Sega CD/Genesis/32X together in one unit but again... Saturn was the biggie for Sega Japan and all resource was funneled into Saturn as a whole multimedia offering.
Second huge mistake: The disastrous US launch. Releasing the console five months early and not telling all retailers of your console you were doing so. Absolutely mad.
Sega basically alienated their biggest market. Ouch.
And the hits just kept on coming... No Sonic game at launch on Saturn. Sports games where sub par. Public displays of unrest and frustration at the company. Not getting over the whole FMV craze quickly enough. Extremely complex SDK and programming tools for third parties. Acquiring licenses for crap games and not paying for the good stuff (I live in the UK: No western localisation of Grandia in the UK/Europe but Sega paid through the nose for Courier Crisis. A totally crap game by comparison.)
And the whole Playstation "299!" thing which is a phrase that echoes in the hearts and minds of the generation to this day.
And yet after all that...
The Saturn is a 2D powerhouse with forward thinking ideas of 3D space that were too complex to be utilised in a mass market. 2 x processors managing different graphic routines could've given Saturn an edge. But rarely used...
The library is rich in vibrant, unique, intriguing and artistic games that defined gaming. Panzer Dragoon as a series is reverred to this day.
Shining games on the Saturn are amazing RPG'S that paved the way for games like Golden Sun on GBA among others.
With the optional 4MB RAM cart you had access to arcade perfect gaming thanks to Capcom.
Even Sega's 'clone' of Resident Evil called Deep Fear had some unique gameplay elements and story beats that gave it a fresh angle.
Saturn Bomberman: Gorgeous 2D sprite work with a huge amount of additional content and battle modes. And the famous 'Hi-Ten' mode using a hi-res graphics mode that allowed for TEN players to play at once on a single machine (2 x multi taps and ten controllers BUT STILL).
Google: Bulk Slash - Google: Astal - Google: Guardian Heroes.
The list goes on and on and on...
The Saturn is NOT a filler console. The 32X unfortunately was the filler.
Much respect on the vid.
I love how you compared the exact game, just for different consoles
The Saturn version has a map too when you press pause I believe (it might be another button, I can't remember).
Sonic 3D blast is my favorite sonic game
Mentally insane
@@shaulov10 hush
I’ve only played the Genesis version. The Special Stage Music is so fucking good, the OST for both are good tbh.
The special stage music goes hard
Rusty Ruins has no NEED to be as beautiful as it is. Listen to it while it rains and the vibes set in
I love Sonic 3D Blast. It's an interesting Sonic game. I like both versions of the game and soundtracks. I really enjoy playing through the unqiue zones, vibing to the soundtrack, and just having a good tine with it. Speaking of which, I've been researching Sonic 3D Blast's Genesis and Saturn OST because I am actually working as a music composer for a Fangame which is a Sonic 3D Blast Remake called "Sonic 3D Blast: Advanced Engine". Making new music tracks for Sonic 3D Blast is going to be a challenge.
I really enjoyed this video!
Keep it up Shaulov!!! 👍
Yooo your channel is dope!!! Keep up the bro
Can you believe that they made the Saturn port in 9 months?
Man i try to think of how a remaster would work but idk how, itll have to mix a isometric, x-treme, and adventure type game but idk.
TT certainly went all out reworking this to take advantage of the Saturn
I didn’t grew up with a Sega Saturn. But upon learning this over the years through the internet, I was fascinated to see all the visual musical differences between versions. And even though I grew up with the Genesis one, I recognize what was better in the Saturn version. It’s interesting that the Genesis version is a port. But I guess it was a late Genesis game too. You explained it perfectly that what is overall better from a personal standpoint is all a matter of preference. Because for the most part, both offer something good in their own right. But the core objective gameplay remains the same.
Mega Drive 3D Blast has the 2nd boss theme (Sometimes called "Robotnik") and to this day I need it to be brought back
1:10 had me dying 😂
Honestly both of the osts are good i just love the credits song from the saturn i was just listening to it today anyway how is your day going?
Great video 👍
If you have a chance, you can consider uploading the AtGames versions of the Diamond Dust Zone themes. I am quite curious to see how they sound like.
Does anyone know the name of all of the songs in the background in this video???
Saturn's Panic Puppet Act 2 is a severely underrated gem.
Volcano Valley Act 2 on Genesis is the theme song of my life.
i grew up with genesis version and i love the soundtrack, but the saturn version looks killer tbh, i wish there was some kind of re-release of this version on steam or modern consoles
I don’t even think there are mods so that sucks
Wish there was a Directors Cut for the Saturn version. It could be possible though.
Calling Saturn Diamond Dust Zone generic is crazy.
bro completely ignored diamond peak zone act 2 I was so annoyed 💀
No it's not.
It's the truth.
@@ObjectJunkie That’s enough yapping buddy.
@@Terminal_Apotos Bro i barely said anything
@@ObjectJunkie OKAY Sir Yappsalot.
The PC version is also different from Saturn and Genesis version. More like it is in the middle ground between the two. It has the Saturn stage graphics minus the effects like rain and fog, the music is the same from Saturn, but the special stages are a simplified 3D half pipe similar but inferior than the Saturn version, with only rings and obstacles like the Genesis version, without the springs and platforms like the Saturn version.
Man I loved this vid. I always thought that the Saturn version was just a port with a different special stage, that I was always told that was "meh".
I think I enjoy more the Genesis Soundtrack, but the Saturn Soundtrack seemed to be a nice banger. I'm definitely gonna try the Saturn version now. I definitely loved the Special Stage. It looked so cinematic that I wouldn't believe it's a 1996 game.
I know they have the same zones but are the map layouts the same?
Diamond Dust started the trend, it was used before, but it was the first time that it was used so mainly...
Cool video
I have heard a lot of people analyze this game but I just can’t get myself to appreciate 3D Blast.
I think between the Genesis and Saturn versions I prefer the Saturn version because of the weather effects and soundtrack (Diamond dust act 2 theme is so amazing). But the directors cut version of the game is definitely the best, because of added super sonic, it made the game easier to control, it added a hub world, and an actual save system (which the Genesis and Saturn version lacked I think)
Great video!!
The sonic 3D blast on Genesis/Mega Drive have two music that can be heard in the first sonic adventure in the end of Windy Valley and twinkle park bumper cars level
If Sega put the camera behind Sonic and changed his model to the one from the special stages they could have marketed it as a new game
I always thought the music on the Megadtive fits, like Rusty Ruins makes me think I'm underground, or Diamond Dust makes me think of snow
The Saturn's Diamond Dust makes me think of Christmas not snow, and the level doesn't make me think Christmas
You should talk about the 3d in 2d fan game and how different it is from the official versions and the dx version
Sonic 3D blast wasn’t my favourite Sonic game, but I really loved playing it as a kid. I still have never finished it because it’s such a challenging game (for me, I don’t claim to be an amazing gamer) so I still have fun playing it. I love the Genesis soundtrack to my core, I used to turn the Genesis on just to listen to the music in the start menu sometimes. Pre lofi on RUclips I guess lol
you used an unofficial saturn controller in the thumbnail, the actual one doesny have thumvsticks and if you look closely at the one used in the thimbnail it has a home button in the middle which the saturn did NOT have
i know this cause i actually wanna buy the controller used in the thumbnail
Sonic does isometric perspective so well. Amazed they never returned to this.
I love this game, never understood the hate it got. I own both versions. What's weird is for some reason I swear there was a Sega CD version too, but that's obviously not true. Both are impressive for their respective consoles
I really wish Sega would release a collection exclusive for Saturn and Dreamcast games plus some Arcade...not forgetting knuckles chaotix
For me, mainly, I do prefer them Mega Drive/Genesis version because I find the OST better, in my opinion. But the Saturn OST is great too.
i have to say that the intro on the Mega Drive version is more impressive than the Saturn version.
SURE the Saturn version has way better looking demo, but name a CD based gaming console that wasn't capable of fmv's
now make same list but about Cd consoles that weren't able to do so.
my point is that, it was far more impressive seeing Mega Drive do that intro video than the Saturn one.
I’m a huge Sonic fan, both OST is good, but I’m more of the Saturn version than Genesis. Of course, Sonic always have games when it comes to good OSTs cause Sonic music is imo the best in gaming, there’s a discussion on which OST of Sonic CD is better? US or Japan/Europe? I’m leaning towards the US version. Just like the Saturn version of Sonic 3D Blast, the OST fits the atmosphere of the Zones/Level, and it can translate to reality. You can listen to the Saturn OST of Rusty Ruins Act 1 or 2 on a rainy day, or Diamond Dust Act 1 or 2 on a Christmas Day or season. Sonic music perfectly fits the mood of world we live in, maybe that’s me. LOL
I have never played the Sega Saturn version of Sonic 3D blast because I do not have a Sega Saturn. But wouldn't mind trying it for the Saturn. One thing that would of probably helped in my opinion for the Sega Genesis version would be an Analog stick. I think that would help because Sonic is so slippery and make him hard to control. If Sonic team would of made the game Sonic would of probably felt the same as he did in the 2D games. But still is a good game and very under rated in my opinion. It was my first Sonic title for my Sega Genesis I got the trilogy later to finish out my Sonic collection.
I've never heard Sonic R Man's last name pronounced that way, but tbh I've never heard it consistently pronounced anyway lmao
I would've loved the Saturn version, with the Genesis OST
Thank you
How did you play the saturn version?
I used Kronos emulator
@shaulov10 ah thank you!
@@shaulov10 Kronos? Frontiers reference?
@NoNamex1412 Seems to be a theme with SEGA.
NiGHTS Into Dreams used Kronos first, then 06 gave us the "Night of Kronos" achievement, then the Saturn emulator Kronos came out, then Sonic Frontiers gave us a Kronos mention again.
I feel like because i grew up with the Genesis version (and played the Saturn one later in life) i prefer it and its soundtrack but the main reason i dont really play the Saturn one a lot is because it was never ported. I dont play 3D Blast that much anyway but if i pop in Sonic Mega Collection or any of the Sonic collections, its always the Genesis version, even SEGA seems to prefer that one
I remember this game as Sonic 3d Flickies Island
I guess that by your introductory Statement you're not older than 20
Played it on pc when i was prolly like 10. It was a sonic game i had.
It's Jacques (like jock but slur the J)
I don't care what anyone says, I like this game. Especially the Saturn version with it's enhancements and soundtrack.
Best sonic game either way
It's amazing what they fitted in a mere 4MB cartridge m
The Genesis version has some nice music... It would be a shame if someone were to badly convert it into the DS soundfont and stick it in a subpar unfinished RPG.
Did u say static bridge the word is stagnate!
Just got this for my Saturn and wow its fun as hell. Didnt care for the sega Genesis version. This one has better graphics and the music is amazing
The Saturn's visual upgrades are great, but the slow load times aren't fun. I personally preferred the Genesis/Mega Drive special stages to the Saturn version half pipe versions. I find them kind of annoying. The full pipe style in Knuckles Choatix is more approachable compared to a half pipe.
I still find myself going back to the Genesis/Mega Drive port, even though I own it and the Saturn port.
the best thing about this game on Saturn is the bonus stage. The gameplay is so slow, repetitive and boring.
Goes to show how Sega dropped the ball massively with Saturn. When this came out, a mere 16 bit game with better colors and music, PS1 was getting Crash Bandicoot and Super Mario 64 was already out.
btw sonic blast is its own way different game with all new zones, you can even play as knuckles which is pretty peak
Thats it, im playing both versions
NOO DONT DO IT!!
@@shaulov10 i had a bunch of rings it the second zone on act 2, i was gonna go to the special stage, and then got hit….. i regret this
The Saturn version is obviously superior, but IMO the Genesis version is cooler because it pushes the venerable system to its very limit. Yeah, the video files are low quality, but they're running on a stock Genesis straight from the cartridge. Other people have also marveled at how colorful the "Traveler's Tales" splash screen is. The in game graphics are also really impressive. Call me oldschool, but Sonic 3D Blast on the Genesis was essentially the system's final call and it didn't disappoint.
I've actually played both versions, but didn't notice/remember the differences. It's probably because I played them years apart and honestly hate the game.
Still, interesting stuff 👍🏽
The thumbnail is menacing...
Make it more intimidating
How?!
The Saturn version allows for use of the joystick
This is a good topic videk
Thank you 🙏
I'd take the Genesis soundtrack any day. I hated the CD audio they had to shoehorn in CD games at the time. It was always bad Sonic Foundry ACiD loop music or crappy Roland MT midi songs. I'm glad to see 3D Blast get some love though, it was a good game
Dude I love sonic blast don't get me started man .
These games are fun but have slippery controls. The controls are not different between the versions.
I have the Genesis version.
jaquees is killing me LOL it's a French name, pronounced jAHck with a soft j
I like the Saturn version personally
Non of them. The Saturn ost is peak tho.
I thought you liked bad games though
@@shaulov10 You suck the meta era's dick i dont wanna hear it
Rusty Ruin's Sega Saturn music ❤️