I felt like as a Lumine player, the Ayaka quest was a lot more fitting, cause it was more like she had no girl - friends. She is clearly friends with Thoma so when it's Aether... it's just really odd, but with Lumine the idea I got is no other girls wanted to hang out with her because of her status, and I think that worked a lot better for me.
Yeah I agree, my sisters acc has lumine and I have aether, When I was doing the quest for my sis, It just felt a bit better than when I did it with aether
Yeah I never really felt like it was weird when I was playing as Lumine cause it was like a girls day and it would make sense if she never had one of those before because of her status
The Fontaine cast (as well as the overall Archon quest chain) definitely saved the show. We've seen quite some improvement since Act II and V of Sumeru- they've really begun effectively incorporating a region's characters into the story. A major part of why many of us feel closer to characters like Navia and Furina is as you said: they feel like they've existed as proper people with proper lives prior to our arrival. It certainly made helping them overcome their struggles and achieving their goals all the more impactful 💜
I like Faruzan’s quest, behind her caricatured behavior there is a deeply wounded person who doesn’t seem to belong in the world, but she still doesn’t give up.
Fr, I think faruzan is one of the best written and most interesting characters in the game. I hated her at first but she's one of my favourite characters after seeing her more
I just recently did Faruzan’s hangout and it was simultaneously sad and funny but still with a hint of hope for her to move on especially with that robot she plans to bring back to “life” once she figures out how to replicate the machinery.
I freaking love faruzan so much, genshin really improved with the sumeru female characters, theyre one of my favourites ( nilou is eh but shes sweet too )
I know you focus primarily on the 5 stars but one of the female characters that is misused so much is Kujou Sara imo. Hoyo keeps reducing her to a Shogun fan when (in my personal opinion) post-archon quest that mentality shouldn't make sense for Sara after everything that went down in Act 3. Like you pointed out with Ganyu, there's a lot that could be explored about Sara. She was adopted by the Kujou Clan but will never be as "wanted" as the legitimate blood-related children are, how she has to work extra hard to earn her place + being the General of the Tenryou commission army, and also she's a tengu & one of the few yokai playable characters we have but that rarely feels like it's brought up?? (honestly the yokai aspect only feels the most relevant with Miko and Itto). I keep hoping for an Inazuma event that has all the prominent yokai playable characters on the center stage, so Itto, Sara, Miko, Kirara (I don't know if Gorou counts??), and explore that side of Inazuma's worldbuilding.
@jo0ke4u61 they never said anything about what species Gorou is just like with Ei and Mikoto that another thing why Inazuma writing is so bad they never brought alot of important things up like the Yo kai the supposed to be the Inazuma adapatus or the Electro Sovereign
It's feels like they really abandoned so many of inazuma characters and usually we only get them when they visit one of the other regions itto and kuki mostly all of solider/military characters I feel got hit the most by this , kokomi really was just shoved in to that last summer event, she was hardly involved nor did she contribute much I admit they do give yoyoima quite a lot of screen time as well as just so many banners like they literally have ran her twice maybe even 3 times while some charactera didnt even get 1
@@Josh-qt5ziTo be fair, unlike the adapatus and the melusine who work directly under the archon most yokai are closer to a citizen of Inazuma like Itto and Kirara more than they are guardians like Miko or Sara. I do agree however that we should see more of them. A lot of them died during the cataclysm, how did this affect their society? Do they care about humanity like the melusine? or would they rather live in seclusion like most of the adapatus? How would the Yokai who have integrated into society interact with the others? There’s so much to work with here.
Agreed. I also think it would be cool to see more of the Tengu and their society too. Sara's voice lines say they're supposed to guard the forests of Inazuma or something like that(?) so it's weird to me that we've never seen a single one yet in all the time the MC has spent there
You are wrong. He is actualy a dragon and his bad luck is Celestia trying to get rid of him. In the next archon quest, however, he is going to reclaim his power and be ascended from a 4 star to a five star. Why do I know? Becouse there is no way in hell Mihoyo is doing the pyro archon weaker than Bennett. Trust me friend, I've seen things.😁
@@luisreynamboarcos2958nope. Bennett is the banished good half of the Heavenly Principles who has had his memories sealed but will one day bring down Celestia and free the people of Teyvat
@@columbinadamselettefan The most likely person to hold the title of the 3rd Descender was God King Remus. Still just a theory but there's a lot of evidence pointing in that direction when you look into it. Another popular theory is Dainsleif, but I don't think it holds enough water. It's probable we don't get a direct answer until Natlan though.
In a game where characters have enough power to terraform the land, shake the heavens and alter matter on an atomic level, it's always the human characters displaying their human virtues that leave me speechless and tearing up. Case in point: Nilou's incredible courage during Alhaitham's plan and facing the akademiya sages, Yoimiya's overwhelming emotional intelligence in her every action, Xianyun comforting the traveller after the dream even though she herself recognizes comforting others is not her strong suit and generally strong motherly instincts, among others.
That part about the placing of ayaka's quest is so true. Like, why are we suddenly forced to accompany a girl and resolve her mommy/identity issues in the middle of a high stake situation lol. It definitely should have been released after the archon quest.
And it also shouldn't of been forced.........ayaka is terrible char..............the pandering towards traveler is truly ayakas ONLY writing problem.........traveler is the reasons behind most chars terrible writings
@@fr0ck360 wym the Mc has love interests? Cause them and firefly are just freinds in it was shown................... And if there going to continue the alternative hi3rd chars having similar story's to continue the overall theme of "destiny" in startail since im 99% sure firefly is kianas variant.....just shown by acherons interactions with her being very weird even though they don't know each other.............this same thing happend with bronya and seele..........this is just a theory a GAME THEORY.........but the lines have connected
@@AccountthatexistsI've said it in other videos before, Genshin should take example from Star Rail and not put Traveler in everything! Let's see the characters outside of the Traveler's influence!
Off topic but sumeru and Fontaine side quests, world quests , artifacts and weapons have such amazing lore (king deshret, gurabad's fall, dottore, alian guillotine) and most of them are not child friendly. Like the writers are capable of amazing storylines. (I was so surprised in jeht's quest when the pari (the jinn that follows us around openly said things about cannabilising her own children, jeht executing a trailer. ) Like jeht and alaine's sister have better storylines than soke characters.
Not saying that the stories have to been dark and gorey to be good but child friendly quests here are also really fun and interesting (especially in Chenyue vale)
No.......the problem is that genshin has an identity crisis........and that it dkswnt know what it want to be.......cause most time it is the most childish game ever where dialogue is made for children........but at times it likes to go to dakrer themes for people around 13+ that have no place being in genshins story......and that's the problem, everytime genshin goes darker for a little bit.....after were back to a game for little children............and there trying to tell a story with 2 genres that don't mix
@@AccountthatexistsGotta ask... I saw your comments somewhere else in the comment section and I have now started wondering: why do you use like five punctuation marks to end your sentences? I'd like to know your reasoning, because I can't figure it out. But you are right about the identity crisis stuff. I personally want to think that hoyo hides the more mature stuff behind a veneer of lighter stories in an effort to keep chinese censorship off their backs. To my understanding, the ccp doesn't really like mature subjects in media.
@@Accountthatexistswdym child friendly?the tone of teyavt isn’t really child friendly under 13. A happy character like Bennett seems like a character for that but is has a cruel twist of have bad luck
@@Yami-mugoni613 ...........God I know I have no reason to listen to u......cause u said the tone of teyvst is for under 13......when 95% dialogue interaction and dialogue of anything is the most childish dialogue ever and treats the player like an idiot at times............. And when u said "bennet a cheery char is cursed with bad luck".......and treat a COMIC RELEIF CHARACTER like a DARK TONE.......my god that's such a dum take Also u missed the ENTIRE POINT of what was said
I think the reason you forget about Yanfei is because Hoyo does too... She's a half-adeptus (though a young one), so should be relevant in some of the adeptus stories (even if it's comically not realizing that some characters are adepti, like she doesn't realize Zhongli is Rex Lapis)...and then she's a legal expert. She should be in Fontaine, the nation of justice, at least once. They threw her a bone in the Beetle Battle event, but that's establishing her to being a side character in Itto's and Shinobu's stories...
Is the only adeptus/half-adeptus who has a happy life, no war in her past, no conflict, no identity crysis, just a normal girl who grew up and now is a lawyer, she represents the future generation of adepti who don't need to know about Zhongli personally.
48:56 A Mona-centred event similar to the 2.3 one would go sooo crazy taking into consideration how mysterious her origins are and her connections to the Hexenzirkel... Ohhh please HoYoverse... I really liked your video btw :) I agree with almost everything you say (especially the things about Ganyu and Kokomi). It is truly a pleasure to hear your thoughts!!!
not entirelly on topic, but I really liked, how HoYo managed The Chasm interlude quest and how they merged story quest with event. I think, every event quest should be an interlude one. By that newer players can play them and know things like Albedo's lore and story abt Raiden Gokaden. And people who went through this stories with events have a chanse to reread this stories and be nostalgic abt their old adventures. I would do anything to go thhrough Golden Apple quests once more. But I don't even have a proof that this stories happend besides Dodoko Tales...
Chalk Prince, Shadows Amidst Snowstorms and Ureconciled Stars are probably the ones the Hoyo really regret making exclusive. Even if the intention was to retain old players through FOMO, it unintentionally punished new players or turn them off or at the very least, knda killed Albedos appeal to new players, since most of them have no clue why he's so hyped and why he's such a big deal unless they check the internet. Scaramouche at least has the benefit of being one of the central characters in ver 3.0.
@@Soy_boy-by8ez Not quite, but some of the limited events transition into permanent events except for some of the limited rewards being unavailable. In terms of story relevent ones, the big one is Fyxestrol Gardens which introduces 3 playable characters who otherwise dont appear in the main story.
Honestly after sumeru it started feeling like we’re less of the mc and the actual charecters are the mc nahida had a charecter arc in sumeru she found self acceptance she felt like where the story was leading too she filled a role a archon would do and we were just on the sidelines Navia felt like the mc of the first part of Fontaine the second part was honestly neuvilette But both actually had a charecter arc and it still went on into their story quest though I do hope we step back into the spotlight because the traveler is so frickin morally grey and it makes paimon more and more unbearable(still love her)
Ehh it’s make sense that we aren’t at the center of all massive conflicts and even though we are kinda the main character of Sumeru being the only one that can help nahida
@@Yami-mugoni613 but its weird especially with fontaine AQ, we literally aimlessly going knowhere and in the end neuvillete the one who really doing the job, remove the traveler and the story wouldnt be tht big of a different
@@rafaelrose14 that’s kinda the point ? They probably wanted AW where remove the travler isn’t a make or break character like the last AQ have been in how Sumeru Inuzama would have been fucked without them
No matter what anyone says, the fact that Hoyo's voiced quest writing has greatly improved is undeniable. The written stories have always been great, but now the same quality is showing in the stuff most people will actually experience, and not locked behind walls of text (gacha players when they have to read 🤯). I'm so excited for future quests. Good video and looking forward to the one about the male characters ms otsucurry!
I guess ur right in the case that the writing went bad to mediocre...........also my god trying to critize for people for not reading in GENSHIN IMPACT..........the game where 90% of the story.......is bloated filler dialogue.......shut up mate
@@Accountthatexistsdude if you want to do critism at least be good at it . The dialog isn't nearly as bloated as you make it out to be ,and honestly most earlier stories fine to mid ,not bad .
haven't watched it yet, but i must say navia blew me away. the fact that we see her cry on screen, we actually see her so emotionally vulnerable?? amazing
Seeing her was very refreshing. It’s why I love the women of Fontaine so much. They definitely brought something new to the way female characters are written.
You said it yourself, some characters are well built and trusting of the traveller coz they went through the archon quest plot line. So some characters naturally don't have that level of trust, for example Hu Tao doesn't have a reason to tell us a total stranger about her story, she's just doing a job as a guide between life and death while we just tag along. Same with someone like Yelan, we met her while she was doing her job, and it's still a part of her.
Exactly not every character has to be all buddy with us and there’s in universe reasons as to why (for example with Yelan, who’s entire schtick is basically that she’s a spy).
I think that’s hoyoverse job to, in the story quest, make those character trust us and open up more about their lore. I don’t like how i’ve to spend 3 hrs running around helping npc, not connecting and learning more about the character.
I really enjoyed the Roses and Muskets event as it gave more explanation and development for Ayaka. Ive mained her since her release but ill be honest she's not even in my top ten. I just never made that emotional connection, probably cause her story quest just didnt feel right being in the middle of a war. But her interactions with yoimiya in the 4.3 event really elevated her writing. I can actually tell that yoimiya is her first real female friend and I could see her have the confidence to finally trying new things such as acting, things she always yearned to experience. It makes sense since its yoimiya, someone with the exact opposite personality to her. Yoimiya offers ayaka the chance to break out of her box and be more confident. Their dynamic is really sweet. I honestly think something like that should be the focus of her second story quest and not just in small scenes behind a time-limited event.
I feel like Roses and Muskets make me appreciate Ayaka more as well, especially with her friendship with Yoimiya. A part of me just wished this was actually part of her story quest and not limited to an event.
I wish all the characters would get a hangout or character quest that havent. Xinyan, Kequin and Qiqi could use some more story. also if klee didnt have that summer event then we wouldnt have anything about her because her story quest was literally just finding her a tiny dungeon then done.
unpopular opinion but i think these NPC focused story quests arent bad. It makes the playable character actually feel like they're a part of the world, not just a character to sell. If all story quests are self-contained, it makes the character so much less real and connected to the world of teyvat. We don't have to necessarily only learn abt the char through themselves. Their personalities/backstories can be highlighted against an NPC.
That and most of the playable characters have mostly, if not already been through their growth way before meeting Aether/Lumine and I feel like the purpose of these NPCs is to show how integral this playable character is in their own nation.
"fan of diona for some reason" me when diona is one of my favorite characters (she's just so relatable and cute for someone who also grew up with an alcoholic father)
True, I understand well her frustration to see her father getting into all unnecessary troubles and dangers because of alcohol. So people might see "aww cute cat girl wants to destroy the wine industry", I see "traumatic girl who wants to protect her father and her family's happiness". Anyway I think she's really cool.
xianyuns story quest is so good!! i wanna know ur opinion of xianyun bc she is in my opinion one of the more well written characters and has a very unique personality and dynamic with other characters in the story
It still makes me sad that I’ll never be able to fully appreciate some characters because I haven’t been playing the game since it came out.I’ll never be able to see the reveal of Scaramouche or Susbedo. I’ll never be able to see the golden apple archipelago for the first time and watch Diluc melt all of keaya’s ice bridges. I really think genshin should save events and keep them somewhere in game for new players.
Yeah. I technically started around version 1.2 during albedo’s first banner, but dropped the game because I disliked it at the time. Fontaine saved it for me and made me come back to it, but I’m a bit angry about all the stuff I missed that I can just straight up no longer do
I recently replayed archon quests up to end of Liyue and to my surprise I found them more entertaining than what I expected from how I remembered them. I guess constant criticism I heard of them over time just shifted me to thinking they were worse than they actually were. Perhaps I should listen less to people who want to criticize and concentrate more on my own experience.
it’s truly wasted potential that ganyu is older than 4 of the 5 archons we have in the game and all we ever hear from her is about her desk job for the government or sleeping
If Hoyo gave us a quest where we go around with Benny boi, as his dads teach us how to be an adventurer, I would absolutely love it. Just give it voice lines and I'm good
I see the early story quests as doing a quest WITH the character while the later ones are doing a story quest ABOUT the character and that makes all the difference. So the characters who shine early in the game are usually the ones who have more screen time during main quests. Whatever the case, they did Kokomi dirty.
One small correction about Ei; she was actually in the Plane of Euthymia for 400 years, not 500. Scara's lore says (or at least implies) that she only finished the Shogun puppet about 100 years after the Calamity. So she fought the Shogun for an additional 100 years on top of it. Guess it's taxes.
shenhe is a character that i wanted to hate (bc of the whole born sexy yersterday trope) but i ended up loving her, because it's like you said, her being like that is justified. it's not an empty shell following a trope, it's a fleshed out character. love that weirdo, especially now after the 4.4 lantern rite.
And I'm still here, waiting for Eula event, story and her skin ("Actually, I think the biggest challenge would be to get Eula, Captain of the Reconnaissance Company, to show some interest in dancing, as well as to find a beautiful outfit she would agree to wear." - Lisa, Second Blooming (Lisa's skin) event, talking about Ludi Harpastum; and at the end of act 2 of Secret Summer Paradies, Eula's quote of "Talking to her parents later".). She has potential, as a character and as a physical carry, but man, Hoyo maybe has a huge bias against her, gluing her constantly either with Amber or Collei and giving her crappy support, while evry other carry, Like Xiao or Itto getting their great supports (Xiao with Faruzan and Xianyun, and Itto with Gorou and maybe in fuutre - Chiori), Eula gets barely working garbage like Mika.
Gameplay wise, Eula really just got the Venti treatment. In that her kit was so overpowered when conceived they cannont ever buff her to relevence since that would truely break the game. She is the first character to break the 1m damage number when everyone else was at most doing 10k, if she were any more powerful then there would either have to be physical immunes (much like how they nerfed venti by having most things resistant to being pulled) or have so much hp other characters suffer.
@@hangmingzhang5067I mean, they basically created 'physical immunity' by giving every damn Abyss floor 12 enemies with elemental shields that physical has a LOT of trouble breaking through, hardwalling Eula...
Considering that the summer event brought up her cousin, I'm hoping to see a part two story quest or at the very least a world quest (either in current Mondstadt or in the Mondstadt update that the story keeps teasing).
It is intimidating for return/ new player knowing they are missing character story behind limited time event. and have to jump hoops to elsewhere or youtube to find those events... and ofc hsr has solved the limited quest line issue lol.
Dehya story quest is really good ! But not many people realize that when the story came out.. at least that’s what I found in overall social media.. and I agree with Yoimiya I don’t her first story… but second story made me want a friend like Yoi
Though I may not have seen the video yet, but I can say that Hoyoverse has improved the writing for female characters now, I do agree that they were not as good back then, But with more character development over the years and once we hit Sumeru and Fontaine, the writing was well written to characters such as Nahida, Furina and Navia, and maybe Nilou (nah she is kinda bland...), and probably Dehya, I like how they had their patience to make them relevant.
Tbh all chars still aren't great cause the traveler makes every character worse..........can every char stop gushing over this peice of Paper that has no personality..........it's makes most chars worse and they just need to make the traveler and actual good char cause 60-100% of all chars writing problems circle back to the traveler. God that char ruins this game
@@hireathecho4 I personally disagree, I think Nilou is a great character. Her involvement in the archon quest was great, and I really just enjoy her whole chill easygoing personality. -we just don’t talk about her story quest XD- I don’t think bland equals bad though
@@RainyDays-er9hx I don't mind her personality, I don't think every character has to be super edgy or have a tragic backstory or loud personality to be interesting. It just feels like, after all her appearances in the Archon Quest, her story quest, and events, the only thing I know about her is that she is nice, and she likes to dance. That's it. Why does she like to dance? Did someone influence her to start? Does she have any other hobbies? Who are her friends? Don't know, all we know is that she likes to dance. Admittedly, I haven't read her character stories so maybe she's more interesting in them. I just didn't ever feel curious about learning more about her because of how bland she was.
@@hireathecho4 Yeah that’s fair, and yes it explains more about her in the character stories. However it still sucks that important things like that are sometimes never displayed in story quests…
Talking about Ayaka, I believe that when she ment that lacked friends, it meant that she didn't have friends her age I mean, come on, no matter how you look at it, Ayaka is not even a woman, she's a girl, probably in her teens still. She craved a friend of her age, just like normal youngsters want to. Thoma is a friend, they both cherish each other, but he's still an adult man. Ayaka just wanted to have her peer to be her friend.
@@mikufan0202 Ayaka, just like the majority of people who know about Traveller, dont know what or where from Traveller are. For the same reason, each time alcohol is brought up, people dont give Traveller alcoholic drinks, because they assume that they are minors by local standards. Traveller looks like teenager. Only select few know that Traveller is outworlder and even less people know how old they are. From the standpoint of Ayaka, it does makes sense
There's also the major issue in the fact that Thoma is a maid. A servant. In a society based on Feudal Japan, ain't no way a noble daughter would be permitted an equal terms friendship with a servant.
About the "NPC Quest" I have a guess as to why Hoyo decided to always use npc as plot device, with the concept of Vision Bearer are people that recognized by Gods and able to ascend to Celestia, and they are expected to be some kind of lead/guide of humanity, and for our Playable Characters bar Furina, they already have Vision when we know them, so the idea is really to show their qualities as that 'guide' by helping the introduced NPC on the Story Quest, and this is why I think it's unlikely that they move entirely from this formula. In the end, execution is what matters, yes we have a lot of Story Quest centered around a random NPC, but we also have good one using same npc formula like your example Yoimiya's 2nd, and just recently Xianyun/CR's Story Quest. So my point is I don't think this 'npc as plot device' formula going anywhere but by recent development I do believe they can execute this way better as Sumeru and Fontaine writing just has been overall an improvement. Also about female centered event and option to play past event story heck yeah we despereately need those.
Another thing I want to mention is Xianyun’s story quest. Spoilers ahead. Throughout most of it, we assume it’s another quest about a random NPC. However, we find out by the end of the quest that said NPC actually has a connection to Cloud Retainer.
I was a newbie back then, so I also thought the Dragonspine event 1 was Albedo's story quest, and get some parts of those confused since I did both the event and his quest at the same time (it was like lowered AR requirement or something in a specific duration so I took the chance). But yeah! Very good analysis! I love hearing your thoughts on how the characters are written. I would LOVE a Kokomi-centered event. Enkanomiya please come baaackkkk ;W;
Honestly after seeing this I'm reminded just how much of a brown spot Inazuma is to Genshin as a whole Basically all the characters that were talked about in the most negative light and have the worst player reception are from Inazuma with it being slightly worse before and much better after
I heard (leaks below) Cyno might be getting his 2nd quest (exploring about King Deshret and stuff) but it's merely a speculation and he just had his rerun in 4.2 (also no speculation of another rerun in patch 4.X) so it'll be a long wait
I wonder if more battles(naval ones, so Beidou could shine) with the Resistance could help Kokomi be better fleshed out, even adding hints of Ayato's and Yae's backstage machinations within the war and how the Resistance was struggling w/o making Kokomi seem silly.
The best part about Yoimiya second story quest (in mu opinion), is then she asked treveler about sucssess in searching the twin! It was so unexpected and warming...
5:00 if that quest came out I will spend all those three hours digesting every bit of lore in my screen and I will jump up at joy, like getting found in some "hell on earth" and having terrible luck since birth? That would open doors to some fire lore, also he's my favorite character so even if I don't expect it to come out, I will jump in joy if it does.
Genshin’s writing is generally pretty good, despite popular misconceptions (for example, Paimon doesn’t repeat everything nearly as much as people say, and this can be objectively proven, as we have dialogue logs), but it has been nice to see it get better and better, especially with regard to more of its characters like this. It was sort of hit and miss before 2.6, but they seem to have been on an upward trend since then.
I feel Hoyo did Ei character's so badly, everyone seems to forget that Ei was never meant to rule over Inazuma. Yes, Ei and Makoto did play the role of Archon together but the people of Inazuma always assumed it was Makoto and not Ei, Ei was always the warrior general whilst Makoto was the compassionate, understanding, and intelligent ruler. The genshin community either loves Ei or hates her but everyone seems to forget that she probably is one of the most traumatized characters, she's had to fight for all these centuries and all she's experienced was constant loss, she didn't just lose her sister, with every battle that was fought, she kept losing those she loved until she was alone, the community doesn't understand that Ei probably feels like she was never meant to rule Inazuma alone, that she was never meant to be Archon without Makoto. Not to mention it must've been so hard on Ei mentally and emotionally to pretend that she was the sole archon this entire time and to just take Makoto's place so no one would know that she was dead, I wish Hoyo would talk about these things like they did with Nahida and Furina's trauma. It would've been WAYYYY better if Hoyo branched off these aspects of Ei's character rather than rushing the archon quest and boom! All the problems are dealt with just because the traveler beat her in battle and Yae called her out for exiling herself. I relate to Ei because I too lost my sister and my father, the idea of preserving eternity really hits hard when you've lost those whom you love, it's a shame that they'll probably never revisit Ei's story but one can only hope!
You're so right about all of this! There's a similarity between Ei and Furina, they both had to pretend to be someone they're not, but at least with Furina, she got a resolution, and she can be herself now and the burden is gone. Meanwhile, Ei... I feel like it might have been another reason why she created the Shogun, so *she* didn't have to take Makoto's role as the archon for the following centuries. I hope the next story quest of hers will be of her acknowledging publicly what has happened, let the nation (and herself) mourn the loss of Makoto, and let her find her own place in the world.
Ayaka is my favorite character. Initially it was because I liked her design, play style and voice. But after reading her character stories, it’s because I find her extremely interesting and semi-relatable. I wish her story quest was better, and I hope she gets a second one because I loved Yoimiya’s.
33:45 I've been thinking exactly this, too! Like, WHY?!?! Excellent video. You expand on a lot of my fleeting thoughts in a way that really brings the topic into a constructive focus.
i desperately need a nilou part 2 about her hardships with the akademiya and an ayato part 2 about him managing the kamisato clan after his parents passing
I feel like the four star thing also I'd affected by the fact that near the beginning nunguang and Barbara were meant to be five stars and likely got developments with that as a focus (especially ninguan considering the fact that she's the leader of the jade chamber and liyues economy)
Ganyu and keqing get along better after the archon quest Ganyu got to see how hard keqing works and keqing ate some humble pie after being wholloped by the workload zhongli left behind
I agree with a lot of this, but one thing I'll say is that I think Nilou's story quest did develop her in one very interesting way, which is that in addition to being kind and a good dancer, she's also highly intelligent. She keeps up well with an Akademiya scholar in the debate with only a few days of preparation, identifies that he still cares about his daughter, and then backs him into a trap where he would have to disown his daughter in order to get the outcome he was seeking. I thought it was pretty interesting that a character shown as an artist and empath is also shown to be a capable logician as well if she needs to be.
I completely Agree regarding Collei! To me, she sticks out as a human character stuck among an ensemble of tropes. By a wide margin my absolute favourite character!
IMO, the biggest problem with playable characters is the fact that some NPCs are better written than them. At least with Fontaine, they're slowly showing that they don't mind making the playable characters go through with a lot of stuff. But the problem is still they tell us, but don't show it. This is why Navia and Furina are both amazingly written for me. We actually get to see what they went through, we didn't just hear it. Also, their backstory isn't just sad because they lost someone important. Just think about how many "sad backstories" of characters do we have where the main sad thing about them is they lost someone; Ei, Zhongli, Venti, Kazuha, Scara, Xiao, Diluc, Shenhe, etc. It's been overused to the point that it doesn't feel that sad anymore.
No the npcs arent better written cause all the Npcs are filler chars to fill space cause they cant write a story that connects THE CHARACTERS to the story cause hoyos first thought it 1st Make them hot 2nd make most of them pander to the traveler 3rd mabe if we have time give them a reason to be in the story
@@Accountthatexists that still proves that some NPCs are better written than playable characters. Most playable characters are just designed to be visually amazing. To the point that their story hardly matters anymore. It doesn't really debunk my claim. For example, Ruu (the kid from the Tsurumi island quest) have a much better story than Kokomi, even though they're in a rather similar situation. Ruu's whole quest actually allowed us to learn more about the god he followed, the Thunderbird. Including his relationship and connection to his god. And the way that story was told is actually emotionally involving. Meanwhile, even though Kokomi is the Divine Priestess of the Watatsumi Island that worshipped Orobashi, she hardly had anything noteworthy to say about her god. Even during the Enkanomiya quest, she was entirely absent despite the fact that she, above everyone else, should have the most involvement in investigating Enkanomiya. Also, so far, every story Kokomi is in isn't as emotionally involving as the aforementioned Ruu world quest.
to be fair w/ Diluc, we actually WERE shown him losing his father, it was just shown in a manga you have to specifically search up- and also the manga isn't centered around him, more Collei and Amber-
@@gab4099 if the audience has to do homework it doesn't count lol. That's like giving props to Rwby for putting its world building in a series of RUclips vids separate from the show.
@@1braker I never said give props to them for ever including it in any official media, I was simply saying that we WERE shown it in promotional material and it's not just something that doesn't exists.
I think the key to understanding why male charachters get more focus lies outside of the realm of writing. It's my understanding that genshin is the first Hoyo game to feature playable male charachters (a comparatively uncommon thing in gacha games, even more so in 2020), and they must have wanted to make sure that these charachters are welcomed their audience that might not be too interested at the prospect of "staring at a mans ass" during gameplay. And if focus is on one thing, it has been taken away from another. So, to put it short, I believe it was never a skill issue. It has always, at hearth, been about business. And honestly, if the price for playable male charachters is a couple of female charachters with sub-bar writing, I'm willing to take that trade. Genshin would be a very different game had they gone Honkai impact and made only female charachters playable.
I agree, while I still think genshins story has ways to go and I will enjoy it nonetheless, the female characters have 100 percent improved a lot. They have more nuance and depth. They also show emotions more candid and understandable than previous characters. Also, ps, I absolutely am obsessed with furina.
Dehya is such a chill character to be around. She was actually so perceptive and helpful during the Samsara part of the Archon Quest and made Paimon actually shut it. Her story quest is actually about HER and we got a rollercoaster of a story only to find out she's (SPOILER) adopted xD I also love her relationship with Dunyarzad, another memorable character despite being an NPC. Overall one of my fave female faves alongside Shenhe, Navia, Nahida, Furina, Mona, and Fischl (latter two because of the 2nd GAA) I'd also like to talk about Nahida, who is genuine about helping us and her people but at the same time is naive and inexperienced as a young god and even messes up against Dottore at one point. For a god of wisdom, she's a perfectly flawed character. Unlike Furina, we got to spend time knowing more about Nahida throughout the whole Archon quest which I appreciate over getting a big plot twist reveal at the end.
A fun vid, tho I do feel Genshin often has a larger problem with its quests being too wordy, especially with how inconsequential dialog can be presented right next to game changing statements and no distinction made between the two. That being said, one of my favourite character quests remains Mona's. It had a nice day-in-the-life, roadtrip feeling, with the dialog feeling comedic and playful. The quest also felt more focused and better directed than Genshins Prologue and was where I learned to stop skipping dialogue and embrace the games story. 😊
I hope Hoyo goes back and gives 2nd (or 1st) story quests to the more underdeveloped characters from the early nations so that they can be fleshed out. Like they did with Yoimiya and now Cyno. I hope Ganyu gets a story quest focused on her adeptus side. I hope Hu Tao gets a story quest about her. I hope Kokomi gets a chance to shine in a permanent quest. I hope Keqing and Qiqi get anything lol.
Also, a silver lining for Kokomi is that there's still the whole soil bleaching from Enkanomiya threatening Watatsumi island. That's fertile ground (if you pardon the pun) for a second quest around her.
The problem with event character quest is that it locks new players out of the lore. Allot of new comers have no idea who albedo is and it often confuse when he shows up in an event.
I didn't know some of the lore you mentioned on some of the characters because either I wasn't playing during the event, or skipped it because I was playing other games. I would like them to do what they do for Star Rail, that we can go back and play events after they have happened.
I completely disagree with the way you assumed about Yoimiya based on her first story quest. She was always a social butterfly that has an empathetic heart for the people. Thats why she is the anithesis of Ei's journey. Its not about being "nice" but about "kind"
I'm weird and have enjoyed almost all the limited time events but still lag behind on some of the major content, but i think we noticed same things. If you had to ask me we had some good writing before but 2.7 or 2.8 was about the time i finally had some confidence it wasn't one off or accidental. Irodori was where i first noticed some actual difference and hoped it wasn't a accident, then Chasm and Summertime Phantasia back to back proved they were putting real effort into it. Before this it was too often i would only think someone like Zhongli was cool in event and saddened by the fluff with a lot of the females i had been looking forward to events for more often then not.
I was pretty happy when we got to the Sumeru and Fontaine arcs that Hoyo FINALLY figured out how to write an arc and especially how to write female characters. Deyha, despite some people complaining about her gameplay, has one of the best character quests in the game, some other female characters now have better developments with some new friendships being made(Really love that Calllei and Sucrose became friends) and Fontaine with Navia and Furina, their character development was beautiful. While yes Furina's story quest afterwards was a bit on the dumb side, at least she grew as a character and so far it is going great. Here's hoping Hoyo can keep up the pace and great analysis!
Kokomi was love at first sight for me! I pulled for her instead, back when she released and people were saving for booba archon lol So yeah i agree she is the biggest example of missed potential. I was extremely disappointed with what they did with her in the archon quest and even her story quest. All that "genius strategist", "divine priestess" and enkanomia lore backstory gone to drain. I do hope they show more of her actual abilities in the future, even if in time-limited events.
booba archon???? Just say Ei. The reason there are so many poorly written female characters is because people just reduce them to sex objects and your making it worse
it would be really cool if you made a video talking about your arlechinno's first impressions and future predictions about her character now that she's coming as a playable character in the 4.6 patch
Something i'd like to talk about with ei's first story quest is that while lots of people see it as a date, that's never been what it is in my perspective During her first story quest the yraveller takes her out on a stroll and while yes i understand how that on paper can be interpreted as a date , ij execution it works more as an eye opener for ei. To show her how much things have changed since she isolated herself in her plane of euthimya and for her to realise just how disconnected she was from the people she's meant to protect. It's a reality check more than it is a date I do agree it was a bit strange for the traveller and paimon to not be so wary of her especially after everything that happened in the archon quest , but other than that i think the quest did a pretty good job of giving her charecter development, and without it imo her second story quest wouldn't have worked .
I think Eula is still somewhat poorly written. It really annoyed me in her quest how she had the Traveler practice to talk to her uncle by insulting people like they're plebians. I get it that they were trying to get the Traveler to get into the mindset of a noble. But it would have made a lot more sense to have the Traveler speak to everyone really politely like they're her uncle instead. That's who you're practicing to talk to. That way it would seem more unjustified how people treat her. like although being judged for her family's history is unfair she still seems to me to bring a lot of misery upon herself by talking like this, and threatening to fight people. I also think that the female characters often have less voice differences than the male characters. A lot of them are high pitched and child like and it all kind of blends together for me. I also wish that Collei was still affected but eleazar and had some kind of chronic illness.
I still wish to see this one female 5-star get some screen time: QIQI. No hangouts or Story Quest since 1.0. While Keqing get some event screen time, Qiqi's not centerstage...
In the beginning (especially Mondstadt) there were a lot of instances where a character believed that not working 24/7, setting boundaries or being able to say “no” was being mean or a failure (whether referring to themselves or someone else) and instead of being treated like the flaw it was, it was treated more like some cute quirk and even the negative consequences didn’t result in a forward development or solution. There were exceptions but the fandom didn’t receive most of them well. Which is a shame because the writing often singled out “lazy” and “cold” characters who were unintentionally written to either be disabled or neurodivergent-coded and the fandom echoed those sentiments (as a player with ADHD and autism it’s hard to see that kind of thing and realize you can’t even escape the way you were bullied in everyday life in a video game. Especially one from your own home country). Now I’m seeing more positive portrayals of characters, especially women who assert their boundaries (Chiori, Navia, Dehya, Yelan, Shinobu, etc) and those who are allowed to be vulnerable and not treated as lazy especially as a disabled woman myself (Collei, Furina, Kokomi, Yelan again, etc) and I’m liking it so much more.
I felt like as a Lumine player, the Ayaka quest was a lot more fitting, cause it was more like she had no girl - friends. She is clearly friends with Thoma so when it's Aether... it's just really odd, but with Lumine the idea I got is no other girls wanted to hang out with her because of her status, and I think that worked a lot better for me.
same great!! You make such a great point
Yeah I agree, my sisters acc has lumine and I have aether,
When I was doing the quest for my sis, It just felt a bit better than when I did it with aether
Yeah I never really felt like it was weird when I was playing as Lumine cause it was like a girls day and it would make sense if she never had one of those before because of her status
Except the part where I have to cook for her the pizza
Interesting point
The Fontaine cast (as well as the overall Archon quest chain) definitely saved the show. We've seen quite some improvement since Act II and V of Sumeru- they've really begun effectively incorporating a region's characters into the story.
A major part of why many of us feel closer to characters like Navia and Furina is as you said: they feel like they've existed as proper people with proper lives prior to our arrival. It certainly made helping them overcome their struggles and achieving their goals all the more impactful 💜
I see what you did there
Save the show
I like Faruzan’s quest, behind her caricatured behavior there is a deeply wounded person who doesn’t seem to belong in the world, but she still doesn’t give up.
Fr, I think faruzan is one of the best written and most interesting characters in the game. I hated her at first but she's one of my favourite characters after seeing her more
I just recently did Faruzan’s hangout and it was simultaneously sad and funny but still with a hint of hope for her to move on especially with that robot she plans to bring back to “life” once she figures out how to replicate the machinery.
I freaking love faruzan so much, genshin really improved with the sumeru female characters, theyre one of my favourites ( nilou is eh but shes sweet too )
I love faruzan sm
I know you focus primarily on the 5 stars but one of the female characters that is misused so much is Kujou Sara imo. Hoyo keeps reducing her to a Shogun fan when (in my personal opinion) post-archon quest that mentality shouldn't make sense for Sara after everything that went down in Act 3. Like you pointed out with Ganyu, there's a lot that could be explored about Sara. She was adopted by the Kujou Clan but will never be as "wanted" as the legitimate blood-related children are, how she has to work extra hard to earn her place + being the General of the Tenryou commission army, and also she's a tengu & one of the few yokai playable characters we have but that rarely feels like it's brought up?? (honestly the yokai aspect only feels the most relevant with Miko and Itto).
I keep hoping for an Inazuma event that has all the prominent yokai playable characters on the center stage, so Itto, Sara, Miko, Kirara (I don't know if Gorou counts??), and explore that side of Inazuma's worldbuilding.
Yes gorou was inugami
Aldo the is a chance to have more inazuma strory since there is a part of inazuma had yet been explore (purple sea)
@jo0ke4u61 they never said anything about what species Gorou is just like with Ei and Mikoto that another thing why Inazuma writing is so bad they never brought alot of important things up like the Yo kai the supposed to be the Inazuma adapatus or the Electro Sovereign
It's feels like they really abandoned so many of inazuma characters and usually we only get them when they visit one of the other regions itto and kuki mostly all of solider/military characters I feel got hit the most by this , kokomi really was just shoved in to that last summer event, she was hardly involved nor did she contribute much
I admit they do give yoyoima quite a lot of screen time as well as just so many banners like they literally have ran her twice maybe even 3 times while some charactera didnt even get 1
@@Josh-qt5ziTo be fair, unlike the adapatus and the melusine who work directly under the archon most yokai are closer to a citizen of Inazuma like Itto and Kirara more than they are guardians like Miko or Sara. I do agree however that we should see more of them. A lot of them died during the cataclysm, how did this affect their society? Do they care about humanity like the melusine? or would they rather live in seclusion like most of the adapatus? How would the Yokai who have integrated into society interact with the others? There’s so much to work with here.
Agreed. I also think it would be cool to see more of the Tengu and their society too. Sara's voice lines say they're supposed to guard the forests of Inazuma or something like that(?) so it's weird to me that we've never seen a single one yet in all the time the MC has spent there
I love Navia so much. theres also Xinyan who is kind of event locked but she has such a cute personality and a genuinely sweet story
RIIIGHT XINYAN IS MY BABY
Xinyan is so underrated
They’re both pretty great I feel.
Xinyan is an absolute queen. The way she handled a child making fun of her hair was super awesome.
@@VetkinaOlga it’s such a shame she’s basically a nothing character and doesn’t get a whole lot to do.
I disagree that no one is expecting a 3 hour Bennett backstory quest. Why?
Because I'm convinced Il Capitano is Bennett's biological father. Boom.
You are wrong. He is actualy a dragon and his bad luck is Celestia trying to get rid of him. In the next archon quest, however, he is going to reclaim his power and be ascended from a 4 star to a five star. Why do I know? Becouse there is no way in hell Mihoyo is doing the pyro archon weaker than Bennett. Trust me friend, I've seen things.😁
@@luisreynamboarcos2958Let me debunk you. If Bennett is the pyro sovereign, why do they NEED to give him a vision then?
@@luisreynamboarcos2958nope. Bennett is the banished good half of the Heavenly Principles who has had his memories sealed but will one day bring down Celestia and free the people of Teyvat
bennett is secretly the 3rd descender!??!?!(!!?🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@@columbinadamselettefan The most likely person to hold the title of the 3rd Descender was God King Remus. Still just a theory but there's a lot of evidence pointing in that direction when you look into it.
Another popular theory is Dainsleif, but I don't think it holds enough water.
It's probable we don't get a direct answer until Natlan though.
In a game where characters have enough power to terraform the land, shake the heavens and alter matter on an atomic level, it's always the human characters displaying their human virtues that leave me speechless and tearing up. Case in point: Nilou's incredible courage during Alhaitham's plan and facing the akademiya sages, Yoimiya's overwhelming emotional intelligence in her every action, Xianyun comforting the traveller after the dream even though she herself recognizes comforting others is not her strong suit and generally strong motherly instincts, among others.
Cloud Retainer’s quest was great.
Nilou doesn't have enough brain cells to feel fear. So her "courage" against academiya isn't real😂
That part about the placing of ayaka's quest is so true. Like, why are we suddenly forced to accompany a girl and resolve her mommy/identity issues in the middle of a high stake situation lol.
It definitely should have been released after the archon quest.
And it also shouldn't of been forced.........ayaka is terrible char..............the pandering towards traveler is truly ayakas ONLY writing problem.........traveler is the reasons behind most chars terrible writings
It's crazy looking back at Ayaka's character, when Honkai Star Rail nailed Trailblazer's "hinted" love interest pretty well in the main quest
@@fr0ck360 wym the Mc has love interests? Cause them and firefly are just freinds in it was shown...................
And if there going to continue the alternative hi3rd chars having similar story's to continue the overall theme of "destiny" in startail since im 99% sure firefly is kianas variant.....just shown by acherons interactions with her being very weird even though they don't know each other.............this same thing happend with bronya and seele..........this is just a theory a GAME THEORY.........but the lines have connected
@@AccountthatexistsI've said it in other videos before, Genshin should take example from Star Rail and not put Traveler in everything! Let's see the characters outside of the Traveler's influence!
@@AccountthatexistsNah. She's good. I love My Ice Princess. 😊
Off topic but sumeru and Fontaine side quests, world quests , artifacts and weapons have such amazing lore (king deshret, gurabad's fall, dottore, alian guillotine) and most of them are not child friendly. Like the writers are capable of amazing storylines. (I was so surprised in jeht's quest when the pari (the jinn that follows us around openly said things about cannabilising her own children, jeht executing a trailer. ) Like jeht and alaine's sister have better storylines than soke characters.
Not saying that the stories have to been dark and gorey to be good but child friendly quests here are also really fun and interesting (especially in Chenyue vale)
No.......the problem is that genshin has an identity crisis........and that it dkswnt know what it want to be.......cause most time it is the most childish game ever where dialogue is made for children........but at times it likes to go to dakrer themes for people around 13+ that have no place being in genshins story......and that's the problem, everytime genshin goes darker for a little bit.....after were back to a game for little children............and there trying to tell a story with 2 genres that don't mix
@@AccountthatexistsGotta ask... I saw your comments somewhere else in the comment section and I have now started wondering: why do you use like five punctuation marks to end your sentences? I'd like to know your reasoning, because I can't figure it out.
But you are right about the identity crisis stuff. I personally want to think that hoyo hides the more mature stuff behind a veneer of lighter stories in an effort to keep chinese censorship off their backs. To my understanding, the ccp doesn't really like mature subjects in media.
@@Accountthatexistswdym child friendly?the tone of teyavt isn’t really child friendly under 13. A happy character like Bennett seems like a character for that but is has a cruel twist of have bad luck
@@Yami-mugoni613 ...........God I know I have no reason to listen to u......cause u said the tone of teyvst is for under 13......when 95% dialogue interaction and dialogue of anything is the most childish dialogue ever and treats the player like an idiot at times.............
And when u said "bennet a cheery char is cursed with bad luck".......and treat a COMIC RELEIF CHARACTER like a DARK TONE.......my god that's such a dum take
Also u missed the ENTIRE POINT of what was said
20:00 How to write the best character in Genshin Impact:
Step 1 - "Shut it, Paimon."
Dehya XDD
I think the reason you forget about Yanfei is because Hoyo does too...
She's a half-adeptus (though a young one), so should be relevant in some of the adeptus stories (even if it's comically not realizing that some characters are adepti, like she doesn't realize Zhongli is Rex Lapis)...and then she's a legal expert. She should be in Fontaine, the nation of justice, at least once. They threw her a bone in the Beetle Battle event, but that's establishing her to being a side character in Itto's and Shinobu's stories...
I forgot she was a half adeptus until you mentioned it
It's funny how Mona showed up in the Fontaine story quest, but Yanfei didn't.
Is the only adeptus/half-adeptus who has a happy life, no war in her past, no conflict, no identity crysis, just a normal girl who grew up and now is a lawyer, she represents the future generation of adepti who don't need to know about Zhongli personally.
@@LynemnMona just appeared out of nowhere.
Agreed
48:56 A Mona-centred event similar to the 2.3 one would go sooo crazy taking into consideration how mysterious her origins are and her connections to the Hexenzirkel... Ohhh please HoYoverse... I really liked your video btw :) I agree with almost everything you say (especially the things about Ganyu and Kokomi). It is truly a pleasure to hear your thoughts!!!
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That 100% should be an archon quest or story quest part 2 and not a limited time event
not entirelly on topic, but I really liked, how HoYo managed The Chasm interlude quest and how they merged story quest with event. I think, every event quest should be an interlude one. By that newer players can play them and know things like Albedo's lore and story abt Raiden Gokaden. And people who went through this stories with events have a chanse to reread this stories and be nostalgic abt their old adventures. I would do anything to go thhrough Golden Apple quests once more. But I don't even have a proof that this stories happend besides Dodoko Tales...
Chalk Prince, Shadows Amidst Snowstorms and Ureconciled Stars are probably the ones the Hoyo really regret making exclusive. Even if the intention was to retain old players through FOMO, it unintentionally punished new players or turn them off or at the very least, knda killed Albedos appeal to new players, since most of them have no clue why he's so hyped and why he's such a big deal unless they check the internet. Scaramouche at least has the benefit of being one of the central characters in ver 3.0.
@@aeso3555they should make them permanent or do a optional dlc choice to re play the events like hstr
WOAH WOAH WOAH IM SORRY U CAN REPLAY LIMITED EVENTS IN HSR?? :D
@@Soy_boy-by8ez Not quite, but some of the limited events transition into permanent events except for some of the limited rewards being unavailable. In terms of story relevent ones, the big one is Fyxestrol Gardens which introduces 3 playable characters who otherwise dont appear in the main story.
Honestly after sumeru it started feeling like we’re less of the mc and the actual charecters are the mc nahida had a charecter arc in sumeru she found self acceptance she felt like where the story was leading too she filled a role a archon would do and we were just on the sidelines
Navia felt like the mc of the first part of Fontaine the second part was honestly neuvilette
But both actually had a charecter arc and it still went on into their story quest though I do hope we step back into the spotlight because the traveler is so frickin morally grey and it makes paimon more and more unbearable(still love her)
Ehh it’s make sense that we aren’t at the center of all massive conflicts and even though we are kinda the main character of Sumeru being the only one that can help nahida
@@Yami-mugoni613 yeah but the story wasn’t really about us it was about nahida
@@Yami-mugoni613 but its weird especially with fontaine AQ, we literally aimlessly going knowhere and in the end neuvillete the one who really doing the job, remove the traveler and the story wouldnt be tht big of a different
@@arminkir9389 it was but we are still massively important and have end up important to Sumeru knowledge wose
@@rafaelrose14 that’s kinda the point ? They probably wanted AW where remove the travler isn’t a make or break character like the last AQ have been in how Sumeru Inuzama would have been fucked without them
No matter what anyone says, the fact that Hoyo's voiced quest writing has greatly improved is undeniable. The written stories have always been great, but now the same quality is showing in the stuff most people will actually experience, and not locked behind walls of text (gacha players when they have to read 🤯). I'm so excited for future quests. Good video and looking forward to the one about the male characters ms otsucurry!
I guess ur right in the case that the writing went bad to mediocre...........also my god trying to critize for people for not reading in GENSHIN IMPACT..........the game where 90% of the story.......is bloated filler dialogue.......shut up mate
@@AccountthatexistsGet over your hate boner. The game is objectively well-written.
@@Accountthatexistsdude if you want to do critism at least be good at it .
The dialog isn't nearly as bloated as you make it out to be ,and honestly most earlier stories fine to mid ,not bad .
@@Dojafishyea no this treasure dude is just going on everyone's comments and hating tbh
@@Accountthatexistswell most of the lore is optional books and such so
haven't watched it yet, but i must say navia blew me away. the fact that we see her cry on screen, we actually see her so emotionally vulnerable?? amazing
On top of her great voice acting and that her crying isn’t overplayed or overused
Seeing her was very refreshing. It’s why I love the women of Fontaine so much. They definitely brought something new to the way female characters are written.
As a Collei main hearing her shout "dont touch me!" is like a regular thing and after finishing the sumeru archon quest it hurts so bad now
You said it yourself, some characters are well built and trusting of the traveller coz they went through the archon quest plot line.
So some characters naturally don't have that level of trust, for example Hu Tao doesn't have a reason to tell us a total stranger about her story, she's just doing a job as a guide between life and death while we just tag along.
Same with someone like Yelan, we met her while she was doing her job, and it's still a part of her.
Exactly not every character has to be all buddy with us and there’s in universe reasons as to why (for example with Yelan, who’s entire schtick is basically that she’s a spy).
I think that’s hoyoverse job to, in the story quest, make those character trust us and open up more about their lore. I don’t like how i’ve to spend 3 hrs running around helping npc, not connecting and learning more about the character.
I really enjoyed the Roses and Muskets event as it gave more explanation and development for Ayaka. Ive mained her since her release but ill be honest she's not even in my top ten. I just never made that emotional connection, probably cause her story quest just didnt feel right being in the middle of a war. But her interactions with yoimiya in the 4.3 event really elevated her writing. I can actually tell that yoimiya is her first real female friend and I could see her have the confidence to finally trying new things such as acting, things she always yearned to experience. It makes sense since its yoimiya, someone with the exact opposite personality to her. Yoimiya offers ayaka the chance to break out of her box and be more confident. Their dynamic is really sweet. I honestly think something like that should be the focus of her second story quest and not just in small scenes behind a time-limited event.
THIS!!
I feel like Roses and Muskets make me appreciate Ayaka more as well, especially with her friendship with Yoimiya. A part of me just wished this was actually part of her story quest and not limited to an event.
It was nice to see honestly, I don’t particularly care for Ayaka as a character but seeing her come out of her shell and try new things was nice.
I wish all the characters would get a hangout or character quest that havent.
Xinyan, Kequin and Qiqi could use some more story.
also if klee didnt have that summer event then we wouldnt have anything about her because her story quest was literally just finding her a tiny dungeon then done.
unpopular opinion but i think these NPC focused story quests arent bad. It makes the playable character actually feel like they're a part of the world, not just a character to sell. If all story quests are self-contained, it makes the character so much less real and connected to the world of teyvat. We don't have to necessarily only learn abt the char through themselves. Their personalities/backstories can be highlighted against an NPC.
That and most of the playable characters have mostly, if not already been through their growth way before meeting Aether/Lumine and I feel like the purpose of these NPCs is to show how integral this playable character is in their own nation.
@@rkthetrashartist3887the story quest is meant to sell you on their personality so you’ll incentivized to buy them.
"fan of diona for some reason"
me when diona is one of my favorite characters
(she's just so relatable and cute for someone who also grew up with an alcoholic father)
True, I understand well her frustration to see her father getting into all unnecessary troubles and dangers because of alcohol. So people might see "aww cute cat girl wants to destroy the wine industry", I see "traumatic girl who wants to protect her father and her family's happiness". Anyway I think she's really cool.
@@thienylac3027 i used to hate her sm and i didnt know why but after i heard that one drunk weirdo talk about her i switched up rq
She was one of a few standouts in a city with alcohol problems and people pleasing culture to unhealthy levels
My heart broke when in the current alchemy event venti was like "hehe ☺️ why do u hate wine so much Diona?... Oh...😟"
xianyuns story quest is so good!! i wanna know ur opinion of xianyun bc she is in my opinion one of the more well written characters and has a very unique personality and dynamic with other characters in the story
I love her motherly side, it felt so nice to have someone looking out for the traveler with that lense instead of "partner".
For she you are still 15 years old because she doesn't know that you 500 years +
It still makes me sad that I’ll never be able to fully appreciate some characters because I haven’t been playing the game since it came out.I’ll never be able to see the reveal of Scaramouche or Susbedo. I’ll never be able to see the golden apple archipelago for the first time and watch Diluc melt all of keaya’s ice bridges. I really think genshin should save events and keep them somewhere in game for new players.
Yeah. I technically started around version 1.2 during albedo’s first banner, but dropped the game because I disliked it at the time. Fontaine saved it for me and made me come back to it, but I’m a bit angry about all the stuff I missed that I can just straight up no longer do
I recently replayed archon quests up to end of Liyue and to my surprise I found them more entertaining than what I expected from how I remembered them. I guess constant criticism I heard of them over time just shifted me to thinking they were worse than they actually were. Perhaps I should listen less to people who want to criticize and concentrate more on my own experience.
Yeah, other than Inazuma they all are varying levels of good I'd say. Even Inazuma has a good story in there, just poor pacing
it’s truly wasted potential that ganyu is older than 4 of the 5 archons we have in the game and all we ever hear from her is about her desk job for the government or sleeping
That’s really sad.
That stuff just gives me headaches and nausea.
Ganyu is older than Fucalors and Nahida. Ei, Venti and Zhongli all predate Archon War by a massive amount of time.
YAYYY NEW UPLOAD I LOVE WATCHING THESE WHILE DRAWINGG
If Hoyo gave us a quest where we go around with Benny boi, as his dads teach us how to be an adventurer, I would absolutely love it. Just give it voice lines and I'm good
Imagine it happening in Natlan, with Bennett finding his actual parents
I see the early story quests as doing a quest WITH the character while the later ones are doing a story quest ABOUT the character and that makes all the difference. So the characters who shine early in the game are usually the ones who have more screen time during main quests. Whatever the case, they did Kokomi dirty.
One small correction about Ei; she was actually in the Plane of Euthymia for 400 years, not 500. Scara's lore says (or at least implies) that she only finished the Shogun puppet about 100 years after the Calamity.
So she fought the Shogun for an additional 100 years on top of it. Guess it's taxes.
shenhe is a character that i wanted to hate (bc of the whole born sexy yersterday trope) but i ended up loving her, because it's like you said, her being like that is justified. it's not an empty shell following a trope, it's a fleshed out character. love that weirdo, especially now after the 4.4 lantern rite.
i really thought that enkanomiya event back in ver 2 was gonna be kokomi centred i was so excited...
And now this patch we finally got some more Ganyu and her relationship with Shenhe, Cloud Retainer and her disciples
And I'm still here, waiting for Eula event, story and her skin ("Actually, I think the biggest challenge would be to get Eula, Captain of the Reconnaissance Company, to show some interest in dancing, as well as to find a beautiful outfit she would agree to wear." - Lisa, Second Blooming (Lisa's skin) event, talking about Ludi Harpastum; and at the end of act 2 of Secret Summer Paradies, Eula's quote of "Talking to her parents later".).
She has potential, as a character and as a physical carry, but man, Hoyo maybe has a huge bias against her, gluing her constantly either with Amber or Collei and giving her crappy support, while evry other carry, Like Xiao or Itto getting their great supports (Xiao with Faruzan and Xianyun, and Itto with Gorou and maybe in fuutre - Chiori), Eula gets barely working garbage like Mika.
I mean Mikas barely even a physical support.......he barely has physical buffs in his kit
Gameplay wise, Eula really just got the Venti treatment. In that her kit was so overpowered when conceived they cannont ever buff her to relevence since that would truely break the game. She is the first character to break the 1m damage number when everyone else was at most doing 10k, if she were any more powerful then there would either have to be physical immunes (much like how they nerfed venti by having most things resistant to being pulled) or have so much hp other characters suffer.
on the bright side furina made mika a pretty good support for eula, her best team now is probably with furina mika and fischl
@@hangmingzhang5067I mean, they basically created 'physical immunity' by giving every damn Abyss floor 12 enemies with elemental shields that physical has a LOT of trouble breaking through, hardwalling Eula...
Considering that the summer event brought up her cousin, I'm hoping to see a part two story quest or at the very least a world quest (either in current Mondstadt or in the Mondstadt update that the story keeps teasing).
It is intimidating for return/ new player knowing they are missing character story behind limited time event. and have to jump hoops to elsewhere or youtube to find those events...
and ofc hsr has solved the limited quest line issue lol.
Dehya story quest is really good ! But not many people realize that when the story came out.. at least that’s what I found in overall social media.. and I agree with Yoimiya I don’t her first story… but second story made me want a friend like Yoi
Unreconciled Stars will forever remain in my top quests for some reason
xianyun's character >>>
THISS OMG, her character is so good
Though I may not have seen the video yet, but I can say that Hoyoverse has improved the writing for female characters now, I do agree that they were not as good back then, But with more character development over the years and once we hit Sumeru and Fontaine, the writing was well written to characters such as Nahida, Furina and Navia, and maybe Nilou (nah she is kinda bland...), and probably Dehya, I like how they had their patience to make them relevant.
Completely agree except for nilou… she’s so bland
Tbh all chars still aren't great cause the traveler makes every character worse..........can every char stop gushing over this peice of Paper that has no personality..........it's makes most chars worse and they just need to make the traveler and actual good char cause 60-100% of all chars writing problems circle back to the traveler.
God that char ruins this game
@@hireathecho4 I personally disagree, I think Nilou is a great character. Her involvement in the archon quest was great, and I really just enjoy her whole chill easygoing personality. -we just don’t talk about her story quest XD- I don’t think bland equals bad though
@@RainyDays-er9hx I don't mind her personality, I don't think every character has to be super edgy or have a tragic backstory or loud personality to be interesting. It just feels like, after all her appearances in the Archon Quest, her story quest, and events, the only thing I know about her is that she is nice, and she likes to dance. That's it. Why does she like to dance? Did someone influence her to start? Does she have any other hobbies? Who are her friends? Don't know, all we know is that she likes to dance. Admittedly, I haven't read her character stories so maybe she's more interesting in them. I just didn't ever feel curious about learning more about her because of how bland she was.
@@hireathecho4 Yeah that’s fair, and yes it explains more about her in the character stories. However it still sucks that important things like that are sometimes never displayed in story quests…
Talking about Ayaka, I believe that when she ment that lacked friends, it meant that she didn't have friends her age
I mean, come on, no matter how you look at it, Ayaka is not even a woman, she's a girl, probably in her teens still. She craved a friend of her age, just like normal youngsters want to.
Thoma is a friend, they both cherish each other, but he's still an adult man.
Ayaka just wanted to have her peer to be her friend.
arent her and yoimiya canonically friends tho? i always assumed they were the same age
@@catfoodtastesgood5808 They weren't at the point of Inazuma's AQ
To be fair though, the Traveler's probably thousands of years old at this point so it makes no sense
@@mikufan0202 Ayaka, just like the majority of people who know about Traveller, dont know what or where from Traveller are.
For the same reason, each time alcohol is brought up, people dont give Traveller alcoholic drinks, because they assume that they are minors by local standards.
Traveller looks like teenager. Only select few know that Traveller is outworlder and even less people know how old they are.
From the standpoint of Ayaka, it does makes sense
There's also the major issue in the fact that Thoma is a maid. A servant. In a society based on Feudal Japan, ain't no way a noble daughter would be permitted an equal terms friendship with a servant.
I wanna add arlecchino to this now, she's so awesome and such a weel written character imo, her story quest was breathtaking
About the "NPC Quest" I have a guess as to why Hoyo decided to always use npc as plot device, with the concept of Vision Bearer are people that recognized by Gods and able to ascend to Celestia, and they are expected to be some kind of lead/guide of humanity, and for our Playable Characters bar Furina, they already have Vision when we know them, so the idea is really to show their qualities as that 'guide' by helping the introduced NPC on the Story Quest, and this is why I think it's unlikely that they move entirely from this formula. In the end, execution is what matters, yes we have a lot of Story Quest centered around a random NPC, but we also have good one using same npc formula like your example Yoimiya's 2nd, and just recently Xianyun/CR's Story Quest. So my point is I don't think this 'npc as plot device' formula going anywhere but by recent development I do believe they can execute this way better as Sumeru and Fontaine writing just has been overall an improvement.
Also about female centered event and option to play past event story heck yeah we despereately need those.
Another thing I want to mention is Xianyun’s story quest. Spoilers ahead.
Throughout most of it, we assume it’s another quest about a random NPC. However, we find out by the end of the quest that said NPC actually has a connection to Cloud Retainer.
I was a newbie back then, so I also thought the Dragonspine event 1 was Albedo's story quest, and get some parts of those confused since I did both the event and his quest at the same time (it was like lowered AR requirement or something in a specific duration so I took the chance).
But yeah! Very good analysis! I love hearing your thoughts on how the characters are written. I would LOVE a Kokomi-centered event. Enkanomiya please come baaackkkk ;W;
i watched that video back then and i agree with most of ur points but fontaine was so crazy when it came to plot and im glad you made this one
Honestly after seeing this I'm reminded just how much of a brown spot Inazuma is to Genshin as a whole
Basically all the characters that were talked about in the most negative light and have the worst player reception are from Inazuma with it being slightly worse before and much better after
This video made me realize that Zhongli is the only male character that has a seconds story quest (correct me if I’m wrong)
To date, you're right. They keep Venti's away in the basement still
Unless u count kazuha wih the inazuma prologue+his quest
I heard (leaks below)
Cyno might be getting his 2nd quest (exploring about King Deshret and stuff) but it's merely a speculation and he just had his rerun in 4.2 (also no speculation of another rerun in patch 4.X) so it'll be a long wait
raiden ei, no?
oh wait you said male, nevermind lol
I wonder if more battles(naval ones, so Beidou could shine) with the Resistance could help Kokomi be better fleshed out, even adding hints of Ayato's and Yae's backstage machinations within the war and how the Resistance was struggling w/o making Kokomi seem silly.
as someone who was a theatre/choir kid throughout high school, nilou is one of my faves
The best part about Yoimiya second story quest (in mu opinion), is then she asked treveler about sucssess in searching the twin! It was so unexpected and warming...
She’s one of the very few characters that cares about the Traveler as a person from what I can tell.
5:00 if that quest came out I will spend all those three hours digesting every bit of lore in my screen and I will jump up at joy, like getting found in some "hell on earth" and having terrible luck since birth? That would open doors to some fire lore, also he's my favorite character so even if I don't expect it to come out, I will jump in joy if it does.
Genshin’s writing is generally pretty good, despite popular misconceptions (for example, Paimon doesn’t repeat everything nearly as much as people say, and this can be objectively proven, as we have dialogue logs), but it has been nice to see it get better and better, especially with regard to more of its characters like this. It was sort of hit and miss before 2.6, but they seem to have been on an upward trend since then.
Nahida gonna definitely ask Ei "you isolated Yourself willingly????? Ever since I was born I wanted to get OUT!"
I feel Hoyo did Ei character's so badly, everyone seems to forget that Ei was never meant to rule over Inazuma. Yes, Ei and Makoto did play the role of Archon together but the people of Inazuma always assumed it was Makoto and not Ei, Ei was always the warrior general whilst Makoto was the compassionate, understanding, and intelligent ruler. The genshin community either loves Ei or hates her but everyone seems to forget that she probably is one of the most traumatized characters, she's had to fight for all these centuries and all she's experienced was constant loss, she didn't just lose her sister, with every battle that was fought, she kept losing those she loved until she was alone, the community doesn't understand that Ei probably feels like she was never meant to rule Inazuma alone, that she was never meant to be Archon without Makoto. Not to mention it must've been so hard on Ei mentally and emotionally to pretend that she was the sole archon this entire time and to just take Makoto's place so no one would know that she was dead, I wish Hoyo would talk about these things like they did with Nahida and Furina's trauma. It would've been WAYYYY better if Hoyo branched off these aspects of Ei's character rather than rushing the archon quest and boom! All the problems are dealt with just because the traveler beat her in battle and Yae called her out for exiling herself. I relate to Ei because I too lost my sister and my father, the idea of preserving eternity really hits hard when you've lost those whom you love, it's a shame that they'll probably never revisit Ei's story but one can only hope!
You're so right about all of this! There's a similarity between Ei and Furina, they both had to pretend to be someone they're not, but at least with Furina, she got a resolution, and she can be herself now and the burden is gone. Meanwhile, Ei... I feel like it might have been another reason why she created the Shogun, so *she* didn't have to take Makoto's role as the archon for the following centuries. I hope the next story quest of hers will be of her acknowledging publicly what has happened, let the nation (and herself) mourn the loss of Makoto, and let her find her own place in the world.
Ayaka is my favorite character. Initially it was because I liked her design, play style and voice. But after reading her character stories, it’s because I find her extremely interesting and semi-relatable. I wish her story quest was better, and I hope she gets a second one because I loved Yoimiya’s.
That xiao yelan quest was a genshin highlight
Revisiting this video after the Xianyun's story quest gives me even more hope for Genshin's future. The cooking just gets better and better.
33:45 I've been thinking exactly this, too! Like, WHY?!?! Excellent video. You expand on a lot of my fleeting thoughts in a way that really brings the topic into a constructive focus.
i desperately need a nilou part 2 about her hardships with the akademiya and an ayato part 2 about him managing the kamisato clan after his parents passing
I feel like the four star thing also I'd affected by the fact that near the beginning nunguang and Barbara were meant to be five stars and likely got developments with that as a focus (especially ninguan considering the fact that she's the leader of the jade chamber and liyues economy)
At this point we need second story quests for every character
god, so excited for your next video about the male characters!
new upload!!! i literally turned on notifications yesterday this is amazing
Ganyu and keqing get along better after the archon quest
Ganyu got to see how hard keqing works and keqing ate some humble pie after being wholloped by the workload zhongli left behind
I agree with a lot of this, but one thing I'll say is that I think Nilou's story quest did develop her in one very interesting way, which is that in addition to being kind and a good dancer, she's also highly intelligent. She keeps up well with an Akademiya scholar in the debate with only a few days of preparation, identifies that he still cares about his daughter, and then backs him into a trap where he would have to disown his daughter in order to get the outcome he was seeking. I thought it was pretty interesting that a character shown as an artist and empath is also shown to be a capable logician as well if she needs to be.
I completely Agree regarding Collei!
To me, she sticks out as a human character stuck among an ensemble of tropes. By a wide margin my absolute favourite character!
Yayyy! New Otsuucurry video!! I always love the quality of these :)
IMO, the biggest problem with playable characters is the fact that some NPCs are better written than them. At least with Fontaine, they're slowly showing that they don't mind making the playable characters go through with a lot of stuff. But the problem is still they tell us, but don't show it. This is why Navia and Furina are both amazingly written for me. We actually get to see what they went through, we didn't just hear it. Also, their backstory isn't just sad because they lost someone important. Just think about how many "sad backstories" of characters do we have where the main sad thing about them is they lost someone; Ei, Zhongli, Venti, Kazuha, Scara, Xiao, Diluc, Shenhe, etc. It's been overused to the point that it doesn't feel that sad anymore.
No the npcs arent better written cause all the Npcs are filler chars to fill space cause they cant write a story that connects THE CHARACTERS to the story cause hoyos first thought it
1st Make them hot
2nd make most of them pander to the traveler
3rd mabe if we have time give them a reason to be in the story
@@Accountthatexists that still proves that some NPCs are better written than playable characters. Most playable characters are just designed to be visually amazing. To the point that their story hardly matters anymore. It doesn't really debunk my claim.
For example, Ruu (the kid from the Tsurumi island quest) have a much better story than Kokomi, even though they're in a rather similar situation. Ruu's whole quest actually allowed us to learn more about the god he followed, the Thunderbird. Including his relationship and connection to his god. And the way that story was told is actually emotionally involving.
Meanwhile, even though Kokomi is the Divine Priestess of the Watatsumi Island that worshipped Orobashi, she hardly had anything noteworthy to say about her god. Even during the Enkanomiya quest, she was entirely absent despite the fact that she, above everyone else, should have the most involvement in investigating Enkanomiya. Also, so far, every story Kokomi is in isn't as emotionally involving as the aforementioned Ruu world quest.
to be fair w/ Diluc, we actually WERE shown him losing his father, it was just shown in a manga you have to specifically search up- and also the manga isn't centered around him, more Collei and Amber-
@@gab4099 if the audience has to do homework it doesn't count lol. That's like giving props to Rwby for putting its world building in a series of RUclips vids separate from the show.
@@1braker I never said give props to them for ever including it in any official media, I was simply saying that we WERE shown it in promotional material and it's not just something that doesn't exists.
I think the key to understanding why male charachters get more focus lies outside of the realm of writing.
It's my understanding that genshin is the first Hoyo game to feature playable male charachters (a comparatively uncommon thing in gacha games, even more so in 2020), and they must have wanted to make sure that these charachters are welcomed their audience that might not be too interested at the prospect of "staring at a mans ass" during gameplay. And if focus is on one thing, it has been taken away from another.
So, to put it short, I believe it was never a skill issue. It has always, at hearth, been about business.
And honestly, if the price for playable male charachters is a couple of female charachters with sub-bar writing, I'm willing to take that trade. Genshin would be a very different game had they gone Honkai impact and made only female charachters playable.
idk abt u guys, but fischl's writing was pretty good for a female character in patch 1.0
I agree, while I still think genshins story has ways to go and I will enjoy it nonetheless, the female characters have 100 percent improved a lot. They have more nuance and depth. They also show emotions more candid and understandable than previous characters. Also, ps, I absolutely am obsessed with furina.
I will accept no sleights against the cinnamon roll that is Yoimiya. She is a bundle of joy and thats all she needs to be.
I really enjoyed this analysis, it would be interesting to see a Jeht video
And hey. NPCs are important too! Never forget Jeht, Zhiqiong, and Caterpillar! 😢
The problem is except Albedo and the 2.8 archipelago there are no events that focus exclusively on characters. It's just always npc no.168.....
Dehya is such a chill character to be around. She was actually so perceptive and helpful during the Samsara part of the Archon Quest and made Paimon actually shut it. Her story quest is actually about HER and we got a rollercoaster of a story only to find out she's (SPOILER) adopted xD I also love her relationship with Dunyarzad, another memorable character despite being an NPC. Overall one of my fave female faves alongside Shenhe, Navia, Nahida, Furina, Mona, and Fischl (latter two because of the 2nd GAA)
I'd also like to talk about Nahida, who is genuine about helping us and her people but at the same time is naive and inexperienced as a young god and even messes up against Dottore at one point. For a god of wisdom, she's a perfectly flawed character. Unlike Furina, we got to spend time knowing more about Nahida throughout the whole Archon quest which I appreciate over getting a big plot twist reveal at the end.
Not me over here expecting a Bennett story quest one day 😅
A fun vid, tho I do feel Genshin often has a larger problem with its quests being too wordy, especially with how inconsequential dialog can be presented right next to game changing statements and no distinction made between the two.
That being said, one of my favourite character quests remains Mona's. It had a nice day-in-the-life, roadtrip feeling, with the dialog feeling comedic and playful. The quest also felt more focused and better directed than Genshins Prologue and was where I learned to stop skipping dialogue and embrace the games story. 😊
Mona’s quest was funny as fuck.
Hey glad you started making videos again! cant believe i missed it for 10 months!
I hope Hoyo goes back and gives 2nd (or 1st) story quests to the more underdeveloped characters from the early nations so that they can be fleshed out. Like they did with Yoimiya and now Cyno. I hope Ganyu gets a story quest focused on her adeptus side. I hope Hu Tao gets a story quest about her. I hope Kokomi gets a chance to shine in a permanent quest. I hope Keqing and Qiqi get anything lol.
Also, a silver lining for Kokomi is that there's still the whole soil bleaching from Enkanomiya threatening Watatsumi island. That's fertile ground (if you pardon the pun) for a second quest around her.
Actually its quite funny how we almost learned more about Hu Tao in Baizhus story quest..
The problem with event character quest is that it locks new players out of the lore. Allot of new comers have no idea who albedo is and it often confuse when he shows up in an event.
I liked the tail end of inazuma. Its low’s were really low but around the part with the resistance is where I started getting into it.
I didn't know some of the lore you mentioned on some of the characters because either I wasn't playing during the event, or skipped it because I was playing other games.
I would like them to do what they do for Star Rail, that we can go back and play events after they have happened.
I completely disagree with the way you assumed about Yoimiya based on her first story quest. She was always a social butterfly that has an empathetic heart for the people. Thats why she is the anithesis of Ei's journey. Its not about being "nice" but about "kind"
i do find quite of these videos a bit short sighted
genshin writing starts improving massively around the chasm quest
I'm weird and have enjoyed almost all the limited time events but still lag behind on some of the major content, but i think we noticed same things.
If you had to ask me we had some good writing before but 2.7 or 2.8 was about the time i finally had some confidence it wasn't one off or accidental. Irodori was where i first noticed some actual difference and hoped it wasn't a accident, then Chasm and Summertime Phantasia back to back proved they were putting real effort into it. Before this it was too often i would only think someone like Zhongli was cool in event and saddened by the fluff with a lot of the females i had been looking forward to events for more often then not.
I was pretty happy when we got to the Sumeru and Fontaine arcs that Hoyo FINALLY figured out how to write an arc and especially how to write female characters. Deyha, despite some people complaining about her gameplay, has one of the best character quests in the game, some other female characters now have better developments with some new friendships being made(Really love that Calllei and Sucrose became friends) and Fontaine with Navia and Furina, their character development was beautiful. While yes Furina's story quest afterwards was a bit on the dumb side, at least she grew as a character and so far it is going great. Here's hoping Hoyo can keep up the pace and great analysis!
Only thing i felt weird was that there was no big info in Furina's profile stories since it was all the stuff we saw
Kokomi was love at first sight for me! I pulled for her instead, back when she released and people were saving for booba archon lol So yeah i agree she is the biggest example of missed potential. I was extremely disappointed with what they did with her in the archon quest and even her story quest. All that "genius strategist", "divine priestess" and enkanomia lore backstory gone to drain. I do hope they show more of her actual abilities in the future, even if in time-limited events.
booba archon???? Just say Ei. The reason there are so many poorly written female characters is because people just reduce them to sex objects and your making it worse
@@Antrezzei reduced herself to oblivion lol
it would be really cool if you made a video talking about your arlechinno's first impressions and future predictions about her character now that she's coming as a playable character in the 4.6 patch
Something i'd like to talk about with ei's first story quest is that while lots of people see it as a date, that's never been what it is in my perspective
During her first story quest the yraveller takes her out on a stroll and while yes i understand how that on paper can be interpreted as a date , ij execution it works more as an eye opener for ei.
To show her how much things have changed since she isolated herself in her plane of euthimya and for her to realise just how disconnected she was from the people she's meant to protect.
It's a reality check more than it is a date
I do agree it was a bit strange for the traveller and paimon to not be so wary of her especially after everything that happened in the archon quest , but other than that i think the quest did a pretty good job of giving her charecter development, and without it imo her second story quest wouldn't have worked .
I think Eula is still somewhat poorly written. It really annoyed me in her quest how she had the Traveler practice to talk to her uncle by insulting people like they're plebians. I get it that they were trying to get the Traveler to get into the mindset of a noble. But it would have made a lot more sense to have the Traveler speak to everyone really politely like they're her uncle instead. That's who you're practicing to talk to. That way it would seem more unjustified how people treat her. like although being judged for her family's history is unfair she still seems to me to bring a lot of misery upon herself by talking like this, and threatening to fight people.
I also think that the female characters often have less voice differences than the male characters. A lot of them are high pitched and child like and it all kind of blends together for me.
I also wish that Collei was still affected but eleazar and had some kind of chronic illness.
I always saw Eula becoming the “monster” the people assume she is as a Lawrence Clan member.
I still wish to see this one female 5-star get some screen time:
QIQI. No hangouts or Story Quest since 1.0. While Keqing get some event screen time, Qiqi's not centerstage...
I love how well written these videos are
Fontaine is the best nation by far, Furina and Navia are the best characters by far. (My opinion.)
I'd love to see a featured event surrounding kokomi and enkanomiya, I want to see more lore about them tbh i think it'd be interesting
In the beginning (especially Mondstadt) there were a lot of instances where a character believed that not working 24/7, setting boundaries or being able to say “no” was being mean or a failure (whether referring to themselves or someone else) and instead of being treated like the flaw it was, it was treated more like some cute quirk and even the negative consequences didn’t result in a forward development or solution. There were exceptions but the fandom didn’t receive most of them well. Which is a shame because the writing often singled out “lazy” and “cold” characters who were unintentionally written to either be disabled or neurodivergent-coded and the fandom echoed those sentiments (as a player with ADHD and autism it’s hard to see that kind of thing and realize you can’t even escape the way you were bullied in everyday life in a video game. Especially one from your own home country).
Now I’m seeing more positive portrayals of characters, especially women who assert their boundaries (Chiori, Navia, Dehya, Yelan, Shinobu, etc) and those who are allowed to be vulnerable and not treated as lazy especially as a disabled woman myself (Collei, Furina, Kokomi, Yelan again, etc) and I’m liking it so much more.
You got your wish! Simulanka happened, Nilou and Navia were both there and it was great ^^