@@Jdogrey1it isn't a translation thing. That's just how Zhongli speaks. He's very knowledgeable about different rocks within the game so he often makes analogies about them.
As a Heizou main, I can confidently say that playing your favourite character as a main dps improves the gaming experience much more than playing a big numbers main dps does :3
As a Venti Main, hard agree. He was definitely NOT meant to be played on-field, but I have a lot more fun when I do! Part of it is the absolutely cursed teams I can make because of it ngl (Example: Venti, Xingqiu, Beidou, Mika. Auto Attacking Venti 😊 absolutely destroyed Floor 11 somehow)
@@Error403HRD I remember when I started playing, I pulled Venti as my first 5-star and I was super excited to main him and reached out for guidance on how I should go about doing that and everyone who replied just said "don't" so I never did 😢
My fav is Neuvi Lisa Baizhu team lmao ❤ we just be blasting through anything. It’s not even hyperbloom because Neuvi can’t simply apply hydro. He destroys everything 😂 I have no idea why it’s my favorite team, but I love it lmao
Barbara was the entire reason I started playing Genshin Impact. My friends had been urging me for months, but I finally caved when they showed me a list of characters and I got to see Barbara for the first time. Sure, it helped that we share a birthday, but I was in love with her character design and her personality. I felt like I could relate to her and she inspired me to play Genshin even after all my friends had given up on it. Barbara was my first character to 90, my first character with a full five star artifact set, my first C6, and my first triple crowned character. Perhaps I don't use her as much as I did that first year of playing but Barbara has a very special place in my heart. Thank you for this video.
So glad there's people out there who just love to play with the characters they want because I feel like it's so clear that if you try to min max prioritize the "objective" best in a game where it's more than just stats you're gonna burn out insanely fast and blame things that aren't always the problem.
yess ever since i got back into genshin my sorta “goal” for myself is to only get and build characters who i enjoy, a few of them do happen to be “meta” characters like furina and nahida, but i also adore layla and i think her playstyle is super unique and it just helps me to enjoy playing, i cant imagine only following what everyone else uses just for faster clears
Like it or not meta is important though, it's better to rather have actually efficient characters to do things first, only after you do all of this you can use the bad/for simps characters. Especially when it is costly to use resources on this game, so you gotta be careful on what you choose for efficiency.
@@djailsonfelipe84 you’ve already missed the point. It has nothing to with the meta existing. If that’s how someone wants to play then that’s how they can play. It’s not as simple as you “need” X to do this.
@@ashhlsy for me it's guys like thoma heizou gaming and kaveh. Lucky for them that they do work well in somewhat meta teams which gives them a huge advantage. lesser stronger characters than i do like but is not so good would be lisa
@@ReanXAlisa Meta is and always will be king. Like it or not it's how most people will choose to play, people naturally tend towards that which benefits the most. You can use and choose, but it really doesn't mean what you're using is the best option. You're free to choose but good and bad still exist.
the artifact system is the main reason why im stuck playing the same people for months on end, hate getting new people, never test out builds that i would think are FUN, or exprement with team comps and doing crazy things. the artifact system really needs to be fixed
@SAWYERFAN.1 it's the Rng on top of Rng on top another layer of RNG that makes ot bad. TLDR explanation on why it's bad Random that you get the set you want. Random if you get the peace for want flower/feather/sands/cup/logo Random on the last 3 that you get the main state you want Random that you get the sub state you want And once that is all over when upgrading it is once again Random what substrates get upgraded. Even the new system they put in I made a peace with the set and type of set with the main and sub states I needed but yet still becuse of that last level of randomness in the system the peace was still trash wasting extreamly valuable resorces and a lot of them. Also the new system requires you to wait 1 months to make a flower or feather 2 months for a sands 3 months for a logo and 4 months for a goblet and if you were to save up for more then 1 atempt you also only get 1 atempt at a sets item peace 1 time a month. granted you can spend IRL money on the battle pass to make this process take half as long to make atempts the 1 time a month for creation can not be sped up
That's the only thing that brings down my mood when I get absorbed into pairing weapons with characters, it doesn't help that (atleast for me) getting upgrade materials for artefacts is harder because it usually has to be other artefacts as infusion fuel. You don't have to do exclusively that with weapons.
@@Oz1455 An electro taser team? It's a team composed by one hydro (or two) characters and at least two electro ones. The team I built was Barbara, Beidou, Yae Miku and Fischl
barbara is lowkey the second best hydro applier if we're talking about 4 stars. Her rings and basic attack do provide a decent amount of hydro for reactions like hyperbloom, not enough to facilitate vape teams but its still great. Very underrated if i do say so myself in the early game especially since hydro is such a crucial element and not everyone can get a xingqiu or build enough ER for him to be good early on
@@Bakagii But she's also the second worst four star hydro-applicator ;) Overall, though, I'd say Barbara has three big flaws: 1) Very long cooldown on her E, and without a matching duration on it, which doesn't do damage, so you can't even use a sacrificial weapon to address this, like you can with Qiqi. 2) No elemental particles from her E. This is something that Hoyovese really should address, for her, Noelle ,and Qiqi, but they never will, because Hoyoverse. 3) Wet status. You will get frozen. That said, I used her for the longest time in the Abyss, until I got Kokomi. I was someone who could see the value in Kokomi because I used Barbara, and Kokomi basically fixes all three of those issues.
Barbara has been my easy favorite since the beginning. I bought merch, maxed her out and even got to meet her English VA at a con recently. Good to see her appreciated. I myself play largely for character enjoyment myself. EDIT: Goddamn fantastic taste sir. And mad respect for addressing Barbara as her proper title at the end.
32:52 i started playing this game specifically for xinyan- a character i ADORED and could talk about for hours nonstop- and used her as a dps consistently for the first year i played the game, i got her to C6, I pulled Itto AND Eula’s weapons for her, farmed pale flame and shimenawa domains for ages until she had the best pieces on my account, she was even the first character i would triple crown!! Then my boyfriend was on my account and C6ed my Bennett (Who i mainly used to support her as a physical DPS), and it effectively ruined her team in my eyes- I didn’t want to farm to build a character as a substitute and so I tossed her to the side and ended up playing another character instead. I’m blanking on who it was but I loved them less than Xinyan for sure. And it was around that time that Lyney came out, and it was love at first sight with his gameplay, personality, design, character demo- everything about him! and the fact that he had such high scaling, was meta, and runs best on a mono team of my favorite element didnt hurt. So with some pain to my wallet I secured him with yelan’s signature bow to kinda sorta match! And his artifact domain would give me a hard time, but i didnt even need to go through the trouble because even without a 4-pc set he was doing double, TRIPLE the numbers that I had bent over backwards to get Xinyan to do- I loved Xinyan but Lyney made the game so easy… too easy arguably. Sure its cool watching Lyney do 300k and killing everything instantly, but I miss the fun it was reaching new milestones with Xinyan, running around teyvat hearing her little drums jiggling, proving the people that called her the worst character in this game wrong!! And as much as I do like Lyney I dont have the same joy I had for Xinyan about him- it stings knowing I forsook my favorite character who was all about rejecting the status quo and being herself for a character that i s the status quo, is the easiest option for when i need things to die quickly. This video reminded me of the joy Xinyan brought me, meta be damned! ❤🎸
That's such a heartfelt comment❤ Personally, I don't even like having a 'main', and do my best to give every character a fair try. I've played Xinyan for a bit, too (as a shield support/burst sub-dps in melt), and she was fun! She's a good person in the story; loved the second GAA bit devoted to her. Her outfit is fire. For some reason, my fav part of it are the white sleeves. They look so cozy and soft😅 And yes, the small sound of her drums was nice to hear while running around. If I had to choose my own favorites, I'd say Xiao and Nilou. I remember how much I liked Nilou's design and attack effects AND how little the 'community' cared for her. Got her because I loved her, kept playing for the fun destructive chaos she brings to the battlefield. Got Baizhu for more variety (3 star, they said. Waste of primos, they said). This community loves playing experts so much, wonder if they'll ever self-reflect. Probably not😅
@@AmoritaStorre and he buffs! i got him for my lisa and collei. just need to raise him now lol. i cant believe he was criticised - hes a complete character at c0 and his c1 is a great quality of life const
Qiqi is unironically my favorite character since day one, her trailer was what first brought my attention to Genshin Impact. I knew I wanted her on my team since before I even pulled her, and although I'm frequently subjected to all the memes and scorn she gets: "most useless 5 star" "the face of lost pity" ect, each one only solidified my resolve to make her my primary DPS. The community may look down upon her, but I'll show them even Qiqi can go the whole nine yards with enough care and love put into her
Fan fact: phys qiqi was such a popular meme in russian community. Everyone was amazed at how good she was doing, and how immortal she was. Some guy even made the song abt it!
Honestly I've always loved Qiqi too, been my healer for as long as I had her(kinda my main dps for a while too), and she was so immortal it was stupid lmao. The only reason I'm not playing her is because Arlecchino doesn't benefit from healers and I refuse to not play her
@@nameynamd9212 I think it really only matters for abyss, if you focus on your team and know when to dodge you'd get through the bosses without terrible difficulty
YAY FOR PUTTING SOME RESPECT ON BARBARA'S NAME 🎉🎉🎉 i love love *love* my hydro girlies, it made me so happy to see you talking about them in such an amazing manner
Barbara C6 on Ocean Clam is broken. Bond of Life Lynette teams, Gaming Detonation (Burgeon), Chongyun, Candace, Rosaria, Barbara for a cool. I have only one question? Do you consider Wanderer an Inazuma character?
@@degraves2003 while he isn’t a sumeru character in lore, he’s regarded as one in gameplay due to his vision, and (probably) some meaningful thing that has to do with him leaving his past behind and all that
"I think the real fun from this game comes from the freedom to play and enjoy it however you want." Those words are why i decide to try other characters as time goes by.
1:54 I think what a lot of people I've seen recently do is get meta supports and use them to boost their, let's say, "meme" / "off-meta" dps characters. Aloy, Dori, Barbara, Amber, Dehya, even anemo traveler can perform well with the right supports (and sometimes weapons...)
This^ Raiden and Nahida for example are such busted Off-Field Applicators (as well fill several other roles like Batteries to the point you don't really require ER on most characters unless they have exceedingly short cooldowns or an ability that scales off ER) that you can use damn near anyone else in the other two slots either for additional reactions or just any character(s) you want to play with regardless of how they "fit" in the team... I'm kind of doing both with On-Field/Driver Mona, who while normally is one of the few characters that can work on really any team is 95% of the time Off-Field Burst Damage Support, leaving the forth slot open for any exploration/puzzle character or Yaoyao for team EM and a 𝘙𝘦𝘤𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘈𝘵𝘰𝘮𝘪𝘤.
the craziest thing is amber best team is diona, rosaria and sucrose lol. ive seen amber mains use her with ganyu, kazuha, bennet, mona. but the most popular is the all mondstat 4 star team lol
As someone that started to play just for Kaeya, I 100% agree with you! Playing with your favorite characters in the overworld it's the best way to enjoy the game. When I started to struggle with my team comp I felt the need to learn more about the game mechanics and I ENJOYED IT. Barbara it's my best healer and my go-to hydro character when needed, she was my best support when I didn't have Raiden to my Kaeya team. I love her so much
One of my favorite teams is aggressively off meta, it's hyperburgeon with Kirara, Barbra, kuki, and xiangling because running into shit as the box cat is just really fun
@@-toriizaka46 it's because xiangling price too much pyro that rhe only one she truly shines with is childe due to riptide which, that in itself, is VERY busted
Absolute favorite character is Dehya, I skipped her banner out of despair over how disappointing her kit was and regretted doing so. Since then I got her losing a 50/50 and her C1 on the standard banner and I pulled for her weapon in the "Nostalgic" banner that was held a while age and have tested out every on-field playstyle and team comps to make her work as a main dps. Unsurprisingly she is extremely usable in abyss even if her dps output isn't on par with the latest Hypercarries but she's definitely not as low in the ladder as everyone tries to make you think
Also I enabled my Bennett's C6 over a year ago because of the horrendous exclamation mark on the character icon and since every infusion-character in the game has had elemental priority for like half a decade
Dehya is way overhated! I pulled her C1 not too long ago, put her on a team with Mona and a good DPS, and she literally carried the team. She's an incredible tank and sub-DPS and I cannot understand why people don't use her more! I put her on almost every team at this point, she's just that great- even with not so great stats on her Vourukasha's Glow set. I worked so hard to get her that set and it's worked wonders for every team I use!
I am a Sayu main. Anemo and element infusion in skill, adorable Daruma mascot, heals, small character wielding a greatsword, extremely useful passive... And most of all, impressive character development: humorous hangout that's engaging and endearing, and as she ascends she goes from sleepy ninja who avoids responsibilities to focus on growing taller, to fighting her sleepiness to spend more time with MC, to saying she doesn't need to grow taller anymore cause she's got MC to reassure her and becomes overall mature enough to forge her own path. So now, I bring her as my main member alongside MC, and I document their travels in the my novel, "The Legend of Sayu", where she travels Teyvat and maybe beyond for her sensei, to find herself and the constant drive for growth.
As a actual Gaming main. A character prone to taking ungodly damage by default, Barbara has pulled amazing W's for him. I hate people who try and say "play this character because they are better then this one"..im here to have fun man 😭
"The strongest character you get early game is Barbara" Proven two times. CN world records abyss 36* speedrun on new account. Barbara Nilou - 6 days. Barbara Raiden - 4 days. Speaks for itself.
@@Ayayuda Friend labor involved. One account played by 2-3 players with day-night shifts. Yes, account itself never slept rotated between different players.
There is no way that she is that strong for a normal player. That is for a very specific method, and let me tell you, this guy does not build Barbara like they do.
Klee and Nahida are my little babies who could be as or least meta as they wanted and I would still give the world for them. Nahida is extremely easy to slot into basically any team, as you stated, specially with Fountain's latest Hydro powercreep (plus Furina is amazing in her own right) but poor Klee is so hard to use in most situations due to Pyro leaning to big one shots, rather than consistent DPS. You can tell she was just about the first non-Archon limited 5 star lmao. But my little sparkle knight got a new spotlight for me, as basically everyone does, with Furina, with me running Klee, Nahida, Furina and YaoYao for so much explosion fun!!
A lot of bosses have a narrow window of opportunity to hit them really hard, while they're invulnerable (or keeping you busy) much of the time. That's when "burst DPS" like Klee are needed, raining apocalyptic destruction in the span of a few seconds.
I farmed FoPL for Klee and witnessing the absolute destruction burgeon Klee commits is so satisfying and hilarious. I knew I had to pull for Klee when she got her rerun alongside her new skin~ I was determined to make her powerful with burgeon! She's not even holding a 5* weapon, she's holding R5 Magic Guide x'D and she's already breached past 1000 EM. I'm sure if I pulled for Nahida's signature and C2 Nahida, her damage will be nuclear! But that's a fun long-term investment for the future >:3 Also, what's great about farming a great FoPL set is that I can borrow it for another character. When I finally get to pull Nilou on her rerun, I'll lend FoPL to either Barbara or future Kokomi~
I can relate to this feeling of playing who I like. My main lineup is Electro Lumine, Ganyu, Barbara, and Thoma. I don't care for the meta, but I just love Ganyu's design, voice, and gameplay style. I saved up for months to get her during her first rerun and got her on my final pull. To me, there's always merit in doing something for the love of it.
While I agree that being disappointed that she wasnt what they wanted is fair, I do think the backlash against the devs who were just trying to make her stand out from the other anemo units and give her a unique playstyle for a playstyle that had been largely ignored for a long time was completely unjustified lol I saw people saying horrible things because of their disappointment directed at the devs, and I have to say this community is one of the most childish, entitled, garbage communities I have ever had the displeasure of saying I was a part of. The way the playerbase treats the devs is absurd, blaming them for things that are the higher ups/producers fault (like how many reward primos we get during anniversary/per update which is decided by the producers who manage the developer team, not the developers themselves) and when they personally arent happy with a character, even though you literally cannot please everyone and the people who end up displeased act like the devs should have catered to THEIR preferences specifically because...well, I guess they're special in their own minds and deserve to be catered to lol The way the fans of this game handle disappointment is just a damn mess, and I feel worse and worse for the devs every day.
Love this video. I really enjoy playing as Kaeya and Diluc and I don't care if some people try and suggest to me to play as someone else for whatever reason because love playing as them. Barbara is such an awesome character as well !! I am glad you found your favourite :>
I like Barbara too. I have less use for her recently, but I still call her when it's about breaking pyro shield of the pyro flower or the pyro cube. But her greatest time to shine was when I got Nilou and Nahida and started playing Nilou bloom team still not having Kokomi. Even on healing build and only equipped with sacrificial fragments (and leveled up to 90) she was my driver in that team and seeing her emerge from a pile of dissolving enemy remains was absolutely hilarious. For me, that was second game changing moment with the first being getting Zhongli and experiencing the game in Easy mode for the first time. And yes, I am clearing one half of Abyss with Nilou bloom ever since then. When it comes to Abyss, it seems to me you're about in the phase where I was about a year ago. Could beat it to 36 stars but it was hard and I needed to switch teams for floor 12 more often than not. Give it another year and I'm sure your characters will be good enough to even have fun clearing it. I have a lot of favorite characters. In fact I think the list of those that are not my favorite would be shorter. And with it comes another problem. I have too many characters I like to play. With regards to Meta, I did pay attention to it when I was not good enough to beat Abyss and when I still had problems with it. Paying attention to which characters to prioritize, how to build them and how to use them in battle really paid off. I am now strong enough that I can afford to neglect it and still succeed but that first phase was very important in my opinion. And finally a note about healers. I like to help other people in the game when I run out of things to do for me. And I realized that absolute majority of people who need help totally neglect the sustainability part of the game, collecting and building DPS characters only and then struggling in combat. Kokomi is my single most used character whenever I am helping them.
About Kokomi, the reason she is so good is because she is not just a healer. She deals incredible damage and applies a ton of hydro. Because of that, she is just better than a normal healer like Barbara.
i'm honestly tired of people telling me that geo is the worst element or it lacks reactions ect. while i find it incerdibly fun to play. i started playing this game for itto initially and 2 years later still use him regularly.
Don't forget that Xianyun's healing is for the entire party at once, not just the on-field character, which gives her great synergy with Furina's stack mechanic.
You know what has the best synergy with Furina's stack mechanic? Furina. I seriously do not understand why so many people refuse to vertically invest in their characters instead of getting a bunch of characters they will never use.
@@Jdogrey1do explain, I don't really have the best luck so collecting multiples of the same character isn't an option for me (if that's what you mean).
@Jdogrey1 because sub dps furina is stronger than healer furina. Healer is meant for only emergencies, off field and overworld. Bosses however? No. You want her sub dps because MINIMUM is 20k per tick. And you get 3 per 3 seconds.. that's an instant 60k every 3 for 20+ seconds. This is compared to her pathetic 4k+ healing [5k if invested] per tick. Baizhu does more. Not to mention the downside of healer mode furina is: No energy particles. No reactions. No applications. Loss of MASSIVE damage output. Longer rotations for places like abyss.
@@Jdogrey1 Some people find fun having multiple characters and trying out different teamcomps instead of just building 8 characters to C6R5 and have 2 broken teams to play.
As a kaeya main I ressonate so much with you! I farmed like hell for him, pulled him r2 (as of now) mistsplitter and got some comments saying its a waste to not get ayaka instead and other times to switch him off the team in coop. I also feel you so much on pulling a character everyone tells you not to pull! This mondstat banner I finally pulled albedo that I wanted for a long time, even when everyone says he is crap and got powercrept I am still having so much fun with him! (Trolling people in boss battles with his elevator is the highlight of my week now LMAO). I have a top 2% wrio but If i can play cryo in abyss I'll always pick kaeya or find someway to put him on the team and I CAN clear the abyss. This is why I love this game it's so versatile and with enough love and dedication you can make any character SHINE! So I preach once again, PLAY WITH THE CHARACTERS YOU LIKE! Even if the meta discourages you and you cant clear the abyss with that character as the main focus find a way to slot them in! It's so much more fun figuring out teams where you can put them and gaining the satisfaction of suceeding than just folding and always building the same paper cut teams everyone uses! This is a game, HAVE FUN!
I've also been building Kaeya for as long as I've been playing the game. He's lvl 80 now and I'm at AR45. I got told multiple times that I could use Chongyun instead, but I like Kaeya the most
I totally agree.. Especially paragraph two.. Sure my pulls eventually become meta in a way, Wrio, Alhaitham, even if their release was doomposted, especially alhaitham with all the dendro keqing.. My teams have so much variety.. Wrio burnmelt, Alhaitham Hyperbloom, Ganyato Freeze, Ayathoma burgeon, Clorinde Aggravate, the usual team.. But then, there's the Razor Physical, Chongyun Melt, Kaveh Freezebloon (still waiting for Nilou to rerun, again, lost 50/50 AGAIN), Lisa Overload (waiting for C6, as of now C4).. Still waiting for Heizhou and Sethos.. These two arghh I've pulled a lot on their banners, yet NONE..
Very well said my friend. This here is exactly why I value favorites/waifus over meta because I want to have fun playing this game. Just because they said that they're quote on quote "low tier character", I still pull for them regardless for my enjoyment. I even did my very first 36 star in the abyss with my favorite characters and it was rewarding.
I come from years of playing MMORPGs like WOW and having a dedicated healer on the team is something I value very much. When all hope is lost, the cool DDs are all either dead or low on HP, Barbara sings her song and instantly everyone is good to go again. Adding hydro to your enemies is also quite a benefit.
@@parkchimmin7913it shouldn't be that necessary. her burst does massive heal for the full team and she has passive heals while being in the field and her elemental is healing+hydro application. her entire existence is basically healing. if her team mate still dies it's not her fault anymore lol
Im a big lover Xinyan and Aloy. Ive made build that make them really shine and im so proud that i did. They both deserve so much more love from the community!
Same. People often forgot who the black sheep of the Genshin community actually is. It's not Barbara or Kujo Sara or even Amber. It's Aloy and Xinyan 😭
I came down here to talk about Barbara on the Nilou Bloom team and I'm SO GLAD that so many other people are here to talk about her too. She is legit SO FUN to play on a bloom team. She heals in a way that I like, on hit during a high uptime skill, and because of that I don't ever think that I'll pull for Kokomi. Barbara and Noelle have that "heal on hit" trigger that I know I can rely on, especially in such an HP-sapping team such as Nilou bloom. Not to mention the bloom playstyle is INSANELY FUN. Barbara has been on my team since 1.0, and I expect her to stay that way well into the Khaenriah chapter.
@@S_8_Fnahida if you have her + off field dendro (typically collei) if not, dmc + collei is default f2p team, you can use yao/baizhu for more healing (barbs can invest more into em this way) kirara shouldnt be played off-field w/o nahida (im assuming you want to play babs onfield) avoid alhaitham, kaveh they have long field time reqs and want xq/yelan. and i have no idea abt tighnari tbh
This has actually happened to me. Before I got my ex-best friend getting into my account and deleting my weapons and artifacts, also spending all my wishes on the standard banner, I was quite a bit of a meta-player. After losing everything, I had to start from zero with my characters, and, surprisingly, I had Dehya in my account, which was a character that I didn't have and wanted. So, I started playing with her and... Damn, I was having a lot of fun with her. I loved playing with her despite how bad she was. I replaced Zhongli for her, and I love how fun she is to have (I love characters that make areas of effects tho). I feel like the main issue with genshin is that the meta tends to take appart the "fun" concept of this game, and, sometimes the game should recieve some things to make these characters stand out even more (like what happened with the artifact sets from fontaine, that made characters like Fischl powerful again)
glad to hear that's ur ex-best friend now lmao, and ur absolutely right, i've been trying to 36 star the abyss for so long now but i literally cant do it despite using pretty meta comps and my builds aren't bad by any means, and i've noticed that's totally sucked the fun out of the game for me so now i just say fuck it i'll take my 32 stars and enjoy the game instead, because the story really was what drew me in to begin with and taking time to actually explore the world is refreshing, especially with the music omg
Metagame is about optimizing, not necessarily to have more fun. You can still use the meta for reference, guideline at most, but there's some balance required. The biggest joy you can obtain from following the meta is to saving you a lot of time and effort in making a wrong decision. If you want to use Dehya, you might want to use her the best way you can
I’m sorry that happened to you. That was an extremely shitty thing to do. I’m glad they’re your ex-friend now and I’m glad you had fun despite what happened.
Furina has boosted my favorite character in a big way. People dunk on Noelle, but ill just keep swinging my redhorn for 70,000 a pop while being invincible.
There's this line from Pokemon that I think really applies in this case. "Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the foolish perception of people. Truly skilled Trainers should try to win with their favorites." I've been a Venti main since the first Windblume event, and I love bringing him into co-op with his DPS build. Sure, he doesn't do crazy numbers, but he can more than assist people. The "only good characters" mentality actually made my opinion of my once beloved Qiqi sour - she was my first five star, and I had a whole headcanon about her a younger sister figure to Aether.. but eventually the community memes got to me, and she's sat gathering dust for a while. This video inspired me to try and bring her back.
I play characters I like. Randomly pulled Heizou when I started playing but couldn’t level him up until Inazuma. Still played with him for exploration until then, now he’s my pride and joy even tho he’s not completely built yet! I really try new team comps every once in a while and even my favorites feel fresh with new teammates. Loved your video, well spoken and fun! The edit is top tier too, love the quality!!
As a big dehya fan. I relate to this vid so much. i got her at AR15 and loved her kit design and personality before even the liyue story. So when i got to experience her story in sumeru along with the archon quests it solidified my love for Dehya. Since then shes my strongest character with my best artifact +beacon and she'll be triple crowned tomorrow and C6ed when she appears on a banner again.
Fontaine igniting the love for genshin is so true I loved exploring it sooooo much, that i created 2nd account just to relive the story, the exploration with amazing music and ended up 100% whole Fontaine twice And that 2 account got me to finally get to play main dps heizou, who i wanted to play since his release Great video
People usually aren't fair to characters' strength without proper investment. If we were fair, a 5*C0 power should be measured against a 4* C0R1. Xiangling is almost never used without abusing Benny snapshot, and C4, which could be considered unintended like Barbara's Bloom incident. Characters like Benny also does not scale that well with investment, whereas if you have C6 Amber with Elegy/Noblesse (ALWAYS buy your starter constellation), you give your team half of Benny's ATK buff, no circle impact, lot less ER requirements, Extra EM, shred elemental shields and *deals damage herself.* Everything is decent with proper investment and everything can be made OP by finding the right strats or just being that skilled. I main Lisa. I'm trying to build her for a Charged ATK/TF set. Swap, use skill, burst, time your NAs and CAs properly to always proc Aggravate. This stacks conductive on enemies to use skill again before swapping out. Deals a surprising amount of damage. About 15K CAs/35K skill without Benny. I love Barbara too. I gave her one of the two Tomes I got from pulling for Homa. Passive can be activated with Bloom. Get some Anemo resonance/Stamina reduction and you can permanently spam Charged attacks.
I'm not sure I agree with your "fair measurements." HoYo designs 4* characters under the assumption that most players will C6 them at some point in time. A C6 4* character is roughly comparable to a C0 5*. Their value has some margin below and above that benchmark, depending on which two characters you're comparing, but generally speaking C6 is the character's proper kit.
@@effortlessfury Yes. But if we are talking in terms of investment vs value it would make sense to compare a 5* C0 with a 4* C0 R1 (on average). We can easily do 5* vs 4* C2 or 3 if you get lucky with pulls.
@@effortlessfury i'd say most good 4 stars at c6 are more like a good c1 5 star. somewhat stronger than a c0 5star. of course there's a lot of variance of both sides, with some 5 stars being worse than a c0 4 star (alloy and qiqi), and some 4 stars that even at c6 are worthless
I know it's been like. 8 months but BARBARA MENTIONED!!! I like everything about her and have been using her ever since i started playing (still do after leaving for two years) and recently have started to build her as another DPS Barbara my beloved
I don't really play for the meta but it just so happens that I really really liked Arlechino as soon as I saw her, it's pretty fun to have a character u like and they're the meta
I recently started building Xinyan because I genuinely loved her design for the longest time but thought she was just not good because of what people have told me, but one day after getting tired of the same boring routine of farming for a pyro goblet for my Lyney, I decided he was good the way he is, he doesn't need perfect artifacts and he can beat this game with the drop of his hat, and so I finally build Xinyan, despite what people thought of her, and I don't regret that at all, I love playing her so much as a pyro/melt dps with my c6 Bennett, Xianyun and Rosaria, She's far from perfect yes, but she's amazing in my eyes and I won't ever feel bored when I play with her, I only regret not building her earlier, maybe I wouldn't have been so burnt out every other month, but that's beside the point, Xinyan is everything to me and I'll keep playing with her no matter how pressured I feel from the meta (Lyney is my best boy but wow did I get drained while farming for that dumb goblet)
I joined in 1.2 and went up until Sumeru only maining Klee, when I changed to Cyno/Nahida/Traveler/Dori, and I really gotta thank Barbara for carrying me in that damned Witch of Flames domain, I mostly did Co-Op because my characters were all Pyro/Electro (which the domain hates) and she was the best way for me to help, and I still use her in my hyperbloom team years later
This video just randomly showed up on my feed and I figured I'd give it a shot. Now I'm at the end of it and I feel more excited to play genshin then I have in a very long time! Great video!
The biggest problem with the "meta" is that a lot of people fail to understand that it specifically applies to the merits (or lack thereof) of a character's value in being able to successfully perform in a very, very small part of Genshin Impact. Specifically, the 12th Floor of the Spiral Abyss. Outside of that, the only metric that matters is whether a character is "fun". And "fun" is subjective. So by this logic, Barbara isn't very good for the 12th Floor of the Spiral Abyss, but, for myself and many other people, she has a lot of intrinsic value that makes her both "useful" and "fun". But here too, her value is subjective. I can, and have, beat the 12th Floor with teams that includes Barbara. Seriously, outside of "speed running", you don't need meta characters to beat the Spiral Abyss. If anything, at least for me personally, trying to beat the Spiral Abyss with non-meta approved characters is way more fun and satisfying. Additionally, characters like Barbara and Amber, for example, are or can be a valuable part of the Genshin experience. Another thing that is seldom mentioned is that combat in the open world and combat in the Spiral Abyss are very different experiences and challenges. The Spiral Abyss is simply a boxing arena with a timer. Open world combat gives the characters context - it gives meaning and value to combat. There is a different set of objectives, such as trying to obtain a chest or materials plus there's other factors thrown in such as terrain and the environment in which the combat takes place. All of these gives "real" meaning for combat; why the characters fight is given context and because of this textural context, it makes using each one much more value. Think about it this way. How many Spiral Abyss fights do you remember? As opposed to, for example, the satisfaction you get from using Amber to snipe a hilichurl off a watch tower and giving her team a way into their camp without worrying about being sniped at from above or behind? Open world fights really do enrich your Genshin experience in a way that an Abyss fight can never do, simply because these experiences deepens your connections to your characters. In the final analysis, your Genshin experience is really about what you do with, and the times you experience with your (favorite) characters within the context of the world in which they exist.
this is the most perfect explanation. ive decided to bench xiangling bcs grass kept burning lol and using her burst in the overworld is a waste. i raised amber, easy overworld use, 40 burst cost and taunt. some cryo apllication and baron bunny expolsion kills everything (i got c2)
This. I've always been an advocate for people playing how they enjoy the game. I love using Xiao especially since I like his design, story and gameplay. That said, I'm aware how my favorites will not be the best in every situation and forcing them in these situations only makes the game hard for me, and that is not something I find fun at all. I do get how being able to achieve something with the characters you like can be really satisfying and fun for everyone else though. It's just that I mostly play games to chill and I don't enjoy making things difficult for myself. The only time I really play meta is when doing spiral abyss for the primos because I suck at games and just want to get it over quickly. And then afterwards, I go back to playing my Xiao in the overworld and doing quests and story.
I went through 12 floor exactly once - to see what in the end (underwhelming). After that I understood that spend literal hours of my day and a ton of stress for completing Spiral Abyss for primogems is seems like an absurdly not fun idea for me personally So now I often don’t even remember that Spiral Abyss exists lmao it just isn’t a part of the game I interact with. So there is no need to measure my characters against hp-bloated npc with unskippable animations and whatever else My mains (played since almost the beginning): Amber -> Phys Keqing -> Xiao -> Wanderer It is a blissful way of playing and I have lovely memories from that (My favorite is my first confrontation with Raiden Shogun where she unexpectedly blocked all abilities and my Phys Keqing was… unimpressed. And bodied her)
That stuff you mentioned at the end about how the real fun is growing your favourites, I think that really resonated with me. As much as I have my misgivings with Genshin's story and writing, and even during Genshin's dry spells, I still do feel a sense of satisfaction from growing my favourites and seeing how powerful I can make them. There are so many characters at this point that there's a good chance anyone could be someone's favourite, and I think that's a wonderful thing. Also I dunno why but I've always felt like Barbara has some of the quickest and snappiest basic attacks in the game, certainly among the other catalyst users anyway, so playing her like a DPS can honestly feel quite good imo
This video was a journey. I had it in the background as I did my dailies and at some point I had my controller down and stopped playing cuz I was just focusing on what was being said while nodding in agreement. This was a fun shared experience as I went through a nostalgic memory trip about my own genshin journey going from stubbornly putting Amber in all my teams to moving on and trying out different teams to falling in love to other character playstyles I didn't think I would love.
For me it's Noelle. I loved her design from the moment I saw it. I then loved her voice, personality and lore. Her kit was everything I love in RPG's, a bulky invincible paladin with massive normal attacks and party healing. She immediately became my main character for everything and my focus in the game became to make her parties stronger with any weapons or characters I could. I'm lucky Noelle ended getting so many buffs. A new artifact set, a new signature weapon and new party members that have been great for her like Gorou, Yelan, Chiori, Navia and specially Furina massively buffing her whole party. Right now people have a hard time really understanding how good she is, they wouldn't believe her results.
the “meta be damned” for me was kazuha, everyone talked so much shit about him back when he was first released, i even had people criticize me for pulling him, it was so insane bc to me he was good and i loved his design i didn’t care if his bis didn’t match his aesthetic and eventually everyone wanted him after skipping him for ayaka/raiden that were soon coming so im glad people came around but im not forgetting how his release went 😅
I feel the same way with Layla. Yes is she worse then Zhongli on paper, but she is pretty, i love her personality and how her abilities look and I do not like Zhongli very much as a character i find him boring. So i never really bothered to pull for him and just put my investment into a shielder into Layla.
My favorite late bloomer is Thoma. I fell in love with his design and personality from the start, but he felt odd to play and didn't really bring much to the team. Then dendro happened. Let me tell you, burgeon Thoma is so satisfying! I love his skill animation and the explosions just fit perfectly 😊
I literally took my barbara to level 80 a few years ago, she was DEFENETLY gold for me, i got her c6 and i was so happy, not only cause i loved her desgin, but also because she is one of the best healers wich you can get early in the game. I used to go into online domains with other players and just use her to heal them up because otherwhise they would just die EVERY SINGLE TIME. I think meta is something that can just ruin the fun, which is the main reason why you play a game lmao
This video is just what I keep telling people who want to know who is best. It doesn't matter how good or 'meta' a character is, if the character is not fun. I'm a bit tired tonight after having been told over and over again how bad Baizhu is and how much these people hate him. I enjoy having Baizhu in my team and I've never been disappointed with his usefulness either. Thank you for making this video it cheered me up.
Baizhu is the zhongli of healers. I've legit argued with someone who claimed yaoyao does more than him when she doesn't. And people arguing that hosting cons suck and should be on the standard literally don't know how broken his cons truly are too. At c2 he's so hard to replace in any team comp. At c6 someone posted screenshots of 1 E [1 BTW!] Doing 20k hp. FKING. 1 TAP! that's half of a hp% units Hp bar. 2 taps is 40k! That's half of a nilou or yelan's health bar! Add his signature and you don't have ER issues.
I follow meta and theorycrafting quite actively (theorycrafting generally being the term used for calculating and simulating the damage of characters in different teams), and do find it odd that Baizhu is getting so much hate in your experience, the general consensus I've seen is that he's a rather excellent character. A step below those considered the 'best of the best', your Furinas, Kazuhas, Bennetts, and whatnot, but still a great unit overall and very worthwhile. Of course, I don't mean to say that your liking of Baizhu is changed in validity in any way with this comment, I'm fully in support of playing the characters you like most and finding ways to make them work for you. Consider this just a small observation I found a bit interesting when I read the comment!
@HorriblyDated the entire argument for why he got hate is because "all he does is heal" when he's literally the best at it. No one can compare. Especially in furina teams. Yet before furina he was the 2nd most hated next to dehya.
@@nobody-xh6ii Weirdly I think you're both overselling and underseling Baizhu here, since in terms of raw healing, he's probably not 'the best', Yaoyao actually beats him on that front, and it's arguable a couple of others do too. The thing that makes Baizhu so great isn't that he has the most healing in the game, it's that he provides enough healing to very comfortably survive and enable Furina with less caveats than other options while also providing additional useful benefits. It feels like a disservice to reduce him down to just his healing when he has plenty of other useful attributes he can bring to a team too, so I wanted to bring some of them up. To highlight some of them, the biggest one is that he can do his teamwide healing without taking a ton of field time whereas other options that may heal more require more field time to do so, a substantial downside. Baizhu also can apply better dendro than the vast majority of characters off field, giving him that as an additional advantage, and he can also provide his micro-shields with burst which serve as useful interruption resistance for teams where you use a character prone to getting knocked back. Before Furina I will admit I and a lot of others did view him as somewhat replaceable from a meta standpoint, as he was only a minor upgrade over or arguably a sidegrade to Yaoyao, a 4 star, but I still found most to view him as very competent and effective at his role if he was chosen, so he was considered a pretty decent pull if you liked him, even back then. I don't mean to invalidate what you saw by saying this though, it's likely that we were simply in different communities at the time, and there is certainly a large subset of rather toxic players who will doompost everyone and act as if a new character not being the next coming of Christ means they're completely useless and 'unviable'. Something I'm very much against as one of the best qualities of genshin to me is that even when following the meta, nobody is truly unusable, some may take more effort to make work than others, or require more planning around, but with sufficient investment into them and the right teams, I believe every character can clear abyss in some way or another.
The ONLY character (so far) to outshine Barbara's utility (for me) was Yaoyao. Barbara was my first crowned unit. She was my only hydro for a solid year. I built her for DPS and her charge attack is like instant delete. Despite the years of favoritism towards Barbara, yaoyao is my new favorite. Optimally built for attack and healing, she can throw down some serious number (smaller numbers in greater succession). I built her burst for maximum damage with emblem and lots of ER. Since she needs to stay on the field for her burst, it's better to build her burst out for damage. With Furina on the team, I am no longer sacrificing damage to have a healer on the team. My Sucrose, Xiangling, Yaoyao, and Furina team (Bloom, vaporize, Burgeon, Pokemon team) is my ultimate favoire setup.
The Kokomi drama was pretty much of Hoyo's own making. The issue was (and kinda still is) that Hoyo doesn't seem to know how to make challenging content without putting a time limit on things, which inevitably means that the win condition is primarily just to deal enough damage in a short amount of time. The fact that one of the primary multipliers was completely shut off from the beginning meant that Kokomi was never going to deal good damage, and she didn't give any easy to understand buffs to let your other characters deal that damage instead either. The AoE Hydro application was good, but we kinda already had Mona for that, so that didn't seem that amazing either (at least not at first glance). Tbh Dehya is kinda in the same boat (though she probably has it worse) where we haven't really figured out many ways for Dehya to not be bad. Her kit is unique, so in theory there should be roles to use her in that no other character can fulfill, but because her numbers are so bad it's just incredibly difficult to find scenarios where she's not actively holding back your team.
Dehya's unique role is that she can't really die to environmental damage in the overworld. That is her niche. Unfortunately that niche doesn't affect any of harder content in Genshin. The thing that would make Dehya's value increase would be Spiral Abyss or a variant of it including mechanics or enemies that straight up harm you via just existing. Example: an enemy that triggers Sheer Cold when you aggro it.
@@Wizard_Lizard_ In other words, bring back leyline disorders in Abyss. Tbh to this day, I think the Regisvines are some of the most well-designed bosses in the game, simply for the fact that they don't have annoying invul phases, they don't TP all over the place, they just deal a lot of damage and have some unique dmg reduction. It feels like the kind of fight where, as long as you're not stupid, you can somehow make it work. Instead of facing an enemy that is designed to waste your time and takes basically no skill to defeat and where, for some godforsaken reason, movement speed is a useful stat because 90% of the battle is spent running after the enemy instead of attacking them.
@@darkdude1996ify Leyline disorders coming back is a good call. They just need to make sure they aren't too intrusive as players complaining about them is why they rarely show up anymore. This is the only way I know how to give Dehya something without directly buffing her. Because as it stands, in any situation where her Pyro application is good Xiangling's (a free character) is simply just better and deals more DMG. And situations where her Pyro application isn't good she's effectively just a very bad shielder.
At first I played this game when it came out and while I enjoyed it, I always thought there were other games that I wanted to play at the time. And then about a year later, literally the best thing ever was added to this game, Kazuha. Kazuha was probably the coolest looking character to me that I'd ever seen and that was enough to get me back into it. Now here I am playing this game almost every day of my life! This beautiful man is too much fun to play and empowers most of my other favorites in this game! Also he just turned out to be REALLY good in this game... yay me! (shoutouts to Albedo, I failed his 50/50 every time... i still dont have him)
Beidou is my favorite character in this game. She had and will continue to be my main DPS in the game. She’s not the *only* character I use as a main DPS, but uh she doesn’t have some of my best artifacts for no reason lol
14:35 Ganyu was overly buffed from the way she was in the beta. Like massively. And this was due to the fact testers lamented her being underwhelming in the beta.
this is the exact video i needed. as a thoma main i get comments like "hes so bad" "he cant do damage" but then i hit huge numbers and it makes it so much more rewarding than hitting the same number with for ex hu tao or arlecchino. all it matters is you love the character and are willing to dedicate your time and effort into making them good. i generally gravitate towards "weak" four stars such as heizou, kirara, chongyun, freminet, kaveh, candace, layla, gorou, and love the idea of giving all of them a fighting chance. this week i managed to defeat this 12th floor abyss kenkis with dps thoma and xianyun, who was an incredible buff to my thoma aswell. hopefully more people will see this video and take it to heart♥
I have been building Anemo Damage (DPS) Venti for a long time now. I reached an upper limit, which I was satisfied with, because it was nearly futile to try to push that limit. Playing that way was probably what made me happiest playing Genshin
Honestly, the ever increasing push for Genshin meta is ANNIHILATING the fun of Genshin. Any person who says they're burned out on or tired of Genshin and used to love it but don't anymore most likely (with some exceptions, of course) has that rooted in the eternal push for meta. Instead of playing who they enjoy and want, they're constantly throwing characters away, complaining characters are 'weak', and giving up any playstyle that isn't hyper-swap hyperbloom because 'big numbers'. Personally, my metric for whether I will pull a character is first 'are they male'. If no, is there a male character I don't have coming up soon? If no, is the unit powerful enough to spend my primos on or am I bored saving up primos and do I feel like pulling on the gacha? I got lucky getting Nahida because I took a break from Genshin, came back and didn't know what my pity was, didn't look at leaks and so didn't know who was coming, and had free lantern rite pulls. (and then I immediately learned Neuvillette was coming and had to panic scramble around Teyvat to ensure I could get him...) But outside of the rare times when I'm 100% caught up on men (I quit right before Fontaine for a bit because I hit 100% male units) the female SSR units just don't exist to me (and I neglect the four stars). Genshin's meta means nothing to me, I build my own.
@@maevethefox5912 Aw, yeah. I love playing silly things with Kaveh. Like using Kaveh + someone like Baizhu or Tighnari against Oceanid and watching everything explode.
personally my meta is similar, but i dont pull for every male character, only those that "strike my fancy" so to speak which led me to c6r5 itto, c0 childe, cyno, wanderer, lyney and a buncha 5* from standard. and currently am maining itto because bonk is fun reject meta, embrace playing with your oshi's
Playing Genshin with "suboptimal" characters is my bread and butter! My Fischl's build has been glued to Barbara's from day 1, as they are my main duo since release: Of course I play all of the other teams, but I always keep on coming back to that simple "core" of on-fleid Barbara making Oz go _Pew pewpew pew pew_ like crazy on all the things, ignoring defenses and doing silly reaction damage! Kazuha likes Electro-Charged? Into this team he goes! Albedo buffs EM? Another friend was found! Nahida likes reactions and EM? Welcome into the fray, Dendro Archon! Dehya can do Burgeon? another silly teammate added! Layla can shield 'n' Freeze, while Freminet wants to break the ice? Another two teammates into my silly comp! Eula wants Electro and a healer? Welcome too, my Physical goddess! And the list goes on and on. XD
Great video. I was a Kaveh main for the longest time just cause I loved to hear him say “FEAST YOUR EYES”. Couldn’t care less about meta. I’m now using Xianyun a lot, love her play style
10:50 In the meanwhile me, playing Taser since I've rolled her. People kept saying she was bad from the start. Now guess what, people use Hyperbloom all around and nothing beats it. Guess what Hyperbloom is. Yeah, taser plus dendro.
The first time I logged onto genshin was during 1.6 update. It was a different time with me not understanding that it's a gacha game and expecting to get every character for free the same way I get amber et al, nor I completely understood artifacts or team rotations, I just spammed normal attacks. At some point I pulled on a standard banner and got a yanfei. Instantly fell in love. Her animations, her voice, her attacks. It was just simply too good. I stuck with her. She was in my party all the time during the time when I came back to genshin after inazuma release. Granted yanfei does get a "pass" to be a good character, unlike some other characters like barbara (who, by the way was also on my team throughout my journey in teyvat and I got her to level 80), but she was my favourite character regardless of how much damage she dealt because it wasn't that much until some point, I just liked her. By the time I got to ar45 and could farm 5-star artifacts I think I've started to grasp how to build teams to bring out the most out of your DPS character. I learned that I could pair yanfei with xinqiu or yelan to build vapefei. I learned that she could also be used with raiden. My experience with yanfei and raiden wasn't that good, so I stuck with vapefei for the longest time. I can't recall how much hours I spent in crimson witch domain, and currently she is THE strongest character on my team. Times have changed after I completed the content in sumeru and fontaine and I've got a few more toys to play with. Xiao, Raiden, Nilou, Nahida. And all the characters have decently good numbers, but there's still something nice about assemblin' a good ol' roaster of overvape (yelan + xq), and beating the smack out of everyone around. With proper supports (bennet, yelan) she can deal solid 70k's all around with her E and charged attacks and it manages to kill the life out of most enemies around. I was kinda shocked that people in multiplayer were acting surprised at my yanfei's damage, I think I got used to it, but that gave me an understanding just how much I've grown. Kazuha banner rolled in this patch and I've finally upgraded my yanfei from c0 to c4 and managed to get kazuha! Great video, thanks for posting! I got really inspired to build that silly DPS barbara build now :)
DPS Barbara is unironically a total blast!! Do I have Neuvillette? Yeah. Does hitting 32k with my shittily built Barbara bring me 10x more joy? HELL YEAH!! Xinyan has been my favourite character since i got her back when i first started playing, she's been my main for years. I refuse to bench her for anyone else. She might not be my main dps anymore, but after getting her c6 and changing her weapon to DEF substat, she works as a shielder/dps when others die, because she isn't nearly as prone to dying as others (defence scaling characters ftw!! Albedo is my second favourite. Wanted him since he came out, got him on his first rerun.). I got her cons from 3 of the 4 lantern rites. She's double crowned, only character i invested crowns in.
Really glad to see Barbara appreciation! I've also kept her on my team since I got her, she used to be a poorly built healer but somebody joked that she was a dps after hitting like 3k. After that, I spent a few weeks building her to be a dps, along with Xianglang and Bennet to support her. I love seeing others also just having fun with characters and builds outside what characters are 'good.'
as someone who has been maining klee since her initial release, ignoring anything anyone had to say about her or her playstyle: i’ve tried other team comps and main dps’s ( hu tao, eula, xiao, to name a few ) but i always come back to my little bomb slinging kiddie . i love her animations and voice lines, just cant part with her as my main quite yet :)
Just a note (doesn't matter if you don't care anyway) but honestly there is a good possibility that your Klee team can work better than at least all the other on-fielders you listed (depending on your investment and skill). Since Furina was released Klee teams (without high skill or investment) are comparable in strength or stronger at the casual investment/skill level than the ones you listed (Hu Tao takes much more skill or higher investment to become significantly higher, Eula generally requires higher investment, and Xiao same (except more of the investment is in getting the right teammates/Faruzan C6). Particularly for the non-plunge option (so you can still throw bombs) Klee Furina Bennett Kazuha/Xiangling/Zhongli/other non-interfering flex character teams are quite strong while being easy to play (the team is kinda like a reverse of Child ones where Klee is the Childe (pun not intended) applying pyro for Furina, the Xiangling, to vape). The only note is that you probably want Bennett on a healing build to get enough healing to keep up with Furina's drain by over-healing to trigger the team heal from her passive Klee is much more easy to make strong now than ever before (in recent history idk the initial release days hehe) so damage should never need to be a reason you stop maining her. Also tbh lots of the negative stuff on her (like power wise) and her playstyle were unfounded and came because most people didn't know how to play her or overestimated the importance/difficulty of animation cancels. I only really think the targeting one is truly problematic. Anyway keep having fun with Klee :>
@@kanoaika thank you !! i’ve done hella research into klee’s kit and would love to run a kleerina team. i would be saving for furina but with my affinity for all the child model characters (small characters, big damage is one of my favorite tropes ) im saving for sigewinne and nahida 😭
@@superblystars Oh since you were here from the beginning I assumed you already had Nahida lol. Also I totally get you--I spent a pretty long time figuring out dragon-strike on Sayu despite how hard it is with her because it is so cute/hilarious to watch her jump like 3 times her height to plunge.
@@kanoaika i had to take like a year long break from genshin because i didnt have a device to play on- i started this year right after nahida’s banner ended 🥲
@@superblystars Well good luck then :>. Also I looked at Sigewinne stuff so far (hopefully she gets buffed before the beta ends lol) and I think you could use her reasonably well on the Furina Klee team in the flex team slot. She does very little hydro application (so won't steal from Furina), gives team wide healing (which decreases reliance on swapping and Bennett as a healer), gives hydro resonance (again helps Furina and makes Klee a bit harder to one-shot), and gives a for now sadly not so great buff to skill damage (hopefully that gets better--its not super relevant now). Overall as it is now, she will not be the best in the team, but pretty good especially for being pretty comfortable with the healing and letting you use 2 of you favorite characters on the same team.
As a beidou main there is something soooo satisfying about learning the atk patterns of enemies and punishing them for it with your perfect timing and although she is often overshadowed by fichyl(idk how to spell her name😂) and yae miko she deals actually really juicy dmg in two enemy situations and she’s soooo fun and she was one of my first c6 characters that I grinded to max.
i have Albedo. hes soo sweet and inetresting with his lore. ironically i didnt hate on chiori for "replacing him" or powercreping him, nah. i was happy to pull for a 5 star weapon that worked for him. so ty Chiori, ur weapon works great on my mans XD
i just use the character i like the moment i get it, even at lvl 1, i just farm the four artifact set without caring to much about the stats and using it while slowly lvl it up and ascending it, it may seem like tedious for some ppl but for me its satisfing to see the damage go from 300 to 15k in a matter of days or even hours if i like the character a lot
diona has always been my favorite and the bow class is always represented in my team. (i know a lot of bow haters) i used to run yoimiya, yelan, fischl, diona. with diona, she has a super cute character design and her backstory really resonated with me especially with how my relationship with my dad is lmao.
I'm glad i forgot spiral abyss was a thing for a while because it let me genuinly enjoy playing with my stronger or more "meta" characters without the little worm in my ear whispering "bad team comp... youll never get anywhere with 4 geo..."
My favorite character is Scaramouche. By FAR. I love his lore, he can fly, and he is beautiful. 10/10 character. best boy. Closely followed by Heizou because he has a fun personality
I switched off my main exploration team (which includes Barbara, not gunna lie) just to check out something on my underleveled Navia and got stuck in an unexpected fight with two Fatui and a mirror maiden. Took 20 minutes. Kept thinking how much I wanted my Barbara team back! So I hear you
I will spend the rest of my life ob the Chasca hill for the this exact reason - versatility and a multitude of different ways to build and play her if you spend more than just a few moments thinking
people hated kokomi bc they didn't understand how to use her. She's not a healer, she's a tank, hydro on field driver, especially for dendro teams where you will be damaging yourself, adds her own clam set damage, gets interruption resistance, she's THE best on fielder u could pick. People were too used to damage being a single big hit from the big carry and they weren't ready for dendro to shift the meta towards quickswap or a no crit reaction playstyle where every teammate is necessary to get the damage, but neither is actually hitting for anything lol
@@deadlysound5711 dot teams already existed with electrocharged and she spiked in use way before dendro lol the concept of a driver has existed since forever and people just incorrectly assumed it had to be the dps driving which has never been true. esp when sucrose on field was already a thing people shitting on kokomi had no excuses. great way to out yourself as one of them tho!
@@deadlysound5711 it wasn't if your characters were built correctly. If your builds were so ass that you absolutely need viri I guess that's another story but it's a you problem not kokomi problem lol
Finally to see some love for Barbara. Ever since I got her, I've always had her in my main team. (Granted she's the healer along with Hu Tao on the team lol) but she's always been reliable and even helps with vape reactions! Her C6 also had saved me more times than I'd like to mention.
Meta is exactly the reason why I didn’t watch anything before playing the game. Still only stick stuff on in the background while drawing- I wanna form my own opinions and have fun
Thank you, I needed a casual look at the meta game of Genshin and I feel like I understand it much better now, I might even try my hand at the spiral abyss. Shout outs to all the Ocean Hued Clam Qiqis out there, turn those 50/50 failures into 50/50 fighters!
the way i was yelling for kuki shinobu to be mentioned and was so VINDICATED when you did, they did my girl DIRTY and she has CARRIED my alhaitham team since he came home, healer mains rise up
@@nobody-xh6ii that's when i got her and the "they did my girl dirty" is in reference to the community not hoyoverse themselves, i was delighted when dendro came out and she got the respect she deserved
I put my yt on autoplay and just happened to stumble across this video, wasn't paying much attention at first but the points you've made really pulled my attention. I totally agree with what you've said and I have always thought about and genuinely love how genshin go with it's character "balancing", it's really nice to see it be recognized and shared in the form of a video. btw I love your commentary style and editing, keep it up ^^
My favourite characters to play have always been somewhat off-meta. I turned my nose up at any announced cryo DPS for two years because I adored Kaeya, condemned Yoimiya to the level one void of my account because I loved Amber, Albedo was the first character I ever whaled for because I was so attached to him, and poor Tighnari got pulled and then tossed aside because I only cared about Collei. Yet, as much as I loved them, I always had this overwhelming anxiety that my numbers weren’t high enough, enemies weren’t dying fast enough, and to this day, I’ve never 36 starred the Abyss, so I started dropping the characters that didn’t hit high enough. I still wanted to care more about the characters than the meta, so I still never raised Bennet, or Xiangling, or any of the objectively excellent characters whose play styles I just didn’t care for, *but the numbers were just too low.* Then I got Arlecchino and, not only did I adore everything about her, she just melted everything regardless of team, and suddenly that anxiety was melting too. Finally, I had a character that made me feel like I wasn’t falling behind everyone. I feel like I can now afford to play the characters I love, even if they’re not the “best”. I built up my Lynette and my Chevruese, got a new set for my Layla, even brought Collei out again. It’s cost all that fragile resin I’d been saving up, but I get to bring them into domains now! Refocusing on the characters I just really like has been a huge joy these past couple weeks. I feel very silly about what it took to get here, admittedly, but I’m quite happy in the end.
Seems like a pretty sensible take. Not everyone is into try-hard gaming, though there will be some who say that the entire point of gaming is getting good and eliminating skill issues to prove your talent or dedication or whatever (or getting the highest dps, making big numbers flash across your screen etc.). Obviously there's nothing wrong with that. But there's also nothing wrong with a slightly more chill approach. And there's tons of people who play a mix of the two styles.
To say it with Zhonglis Words: "One man's stone is another man's gem"
Oh goodness, that is their translation for that?
@@Jdogrey1 Yes. Are there other translations?
@@Jdogrey1 it's more like Zhongli's own way of saying it, because, you know... rocks.
@@Jdogrey1it isn't a translation thing. That's just how Zhongli speaks. He's very knowledgeable about different rocks within the game so he often makes analogies about them.
@@justsomeguy727 the entire game is translated. That line is totally different in Chinese.
"Cryo is far more effective in the rain" is my favorite quote.
Another Keaya main! I've always mained him, but recently I got Alhathiam and I didn't use him as much, so I made a whole different team for him lol.
Hi fellow kaeya mains!!
this is going to get interesting..
"Hehe, quite the find," Is one of mine
Electro too; I see the drops start falling and go "Oh, it's Lisa time."
As a Heizou main, I can confidently say that playing your favourite character as a main dps improves the gaming experience much more than playing a big numbers main dps does :3
As a Venti Main, hard agree. He was definitely NOT meant to be played on-field, but I have a lot more fun when I do! Part of it is the absolutely cursed teams I can make because of it ngl
(Example: Venti, Xingqiu, Beidou, Mika. Auto Attacking Venti 😊 absolutely destroyed Floor 11 somehow)
I so agree!
@@Error403HRD I remember when I started playing, I pulled Venti as my first 5-star and I was super excited to main him and reached out for guidance on how I should go about doing that and everyone who replied just said "don't" so I never did 😢
As a traveler main, I also agree
My fav is Neuvi Lisa Baizhu team lmao ❤ we just be blasting through anything. It’s not even hyperbloom because Neuvi can’t simply apply hydro. He destroys everything 😂 I have no idea why it’s my favorite team, but I love it lmao
Barbara was the entire reason I started playing Genshin Impact. My friends had been urging me for months, but I finally caved when they showed me a list of characters and I got to see Barbara for the first time. Sure, it helped that we share a birthday, but I was in love with her character design and her personality. I felt like I could relate to her and she inspired me to play Genshin even after all my friends had given up on it. Barbara was my first character to 90, my first character with a full five star artifact set, my first C6, and my first triple crowned character. Perhaps I don't use her as much as I did that first year of playing but Barbara has a very special place in my heart. Thank you for this video.
This is so sweet 🥹
That's lovely
Go, Barbara, go! My dad quotes that constantly because of how often we both use her. Barbara is the best.
So glad there's people out there who just love to play with the characters they want because I feel like it's so clear that if you try to min max prioritize the "objective" best in a game where it's more than just stats you're gonna burn out insanely fast and blame things that aren't always the problem.
yess ever since i got back into genshin my sorta “goal” for myself is to only get and build characters who i enjoy, a few of them do happen to be “meta” characters like furina and nahida, but i also adore layla and i think her playstyle is super unique and it just helps me to enjoy playing, i cant imagine only following what everyone else uses just for faster clears
Like it or not meta is important though, it's better to rather have actually efficient characters to do things first, only after you do all of this you can use the bad/for simps characters. Especially when it is costly to use resources on this game, so you gotta be careful on what you choose for efficiency.
@@djailsonfelipe84 you’ve already missed the point. It has nothing to with the meta existing. If that’s how someone wants to play then that’s how they can play. It’s not as simple as you “need” X to do this.
@@ashhlsy for me it's guys like thoma heizou gaming and kaveh. Lucky for them that they do work well in somewhat meta teams which gives them a huge advantage. lesser stronger characters than i do like but is not so good would be lisa
@@ReanXAlisa Meta is and always will be king. Like it or not it's how most people will choose to play, people naturally tend towards that which benefits the most. You can use and choose, but it really doesn't mean what you're using is the best option. You're free to choose but good and bad still exist.
the artifact system is the main reason why im stuck playing the same people for months on end, hate getting new people, never test out builds that i would think are FUN, or exprement with team comps and doing crazy things. the artifact system really needs to be fixed
you didn’t explain why the artifacts are bad…?
@SAWYERFAN.1 it's the Rng on top of Rng on top another layer of RNG that makes ot bad.
TLDR explanation on why it's bad
Random that you get the set you want.
Random if you get the peace for want flower/feather/sands/cup/logo
Random on the last 3 that you get the main state you want
Random that you get the sub state you want
And once that is all over when upgrading it is once again
Random what substrates get upgraded.
Even the new system they put in I made a peace with the set and type of set with the main and sub states I needed but yet still becuse of that last level of randomness in the system the peace was still trash wasting extreamly valuable resorces and a lot of them.
Also the new system requires you to wait 1 months to make a flower or feather 2 months for a sands 3 months for a logo and 4 months for a goblet and if you were to save up for more then 1 atempt you also only get 1 atempt at a sets item peace 1 time a month.
granted you can spend IRL money on the battle pass to make this process take half as long to make atempts the 1 time a month for creation can not be sped up
That's the only thing that brings down my mood when I get absorbed into pairing weapons with characters, it doesn't help that (atleast for me) getting upgrade materials for artefacts is harder because it usually has to be other artefacts as infusion fuel.
You don't have to do exclusively that with weapons.
Barbara is the elemental trigger in my Nilou team. Therefore, technically, she is one of my best DPS characters
I did build a electro taser team with barbara and she is an imortal beast 😅
@@benjamimraony What is this.
@@Oz1455 An electro taser team? It's a team composed by one hydro (or two) characters and at least two electro ones. The team I built was Barbara, Beidou, Yae Miku and Fischl
barbara is lowkey the second best hydro applier if we're talking about 4 stars. Her rings and basic attack do provide a decent amount of hydro for reactions like hyperbloom, not enough to facilitate vape teams but its still great. Very underrated if i do say so myself in the early game especially since hydro is such a crucial element and not everyone can get a xingqiu or build enough ER for him to be good early on
@@Bakagii But she's also the second worst four star hydro-applicator ;)
Overall, though, I'd say Barbara has three big flaws:
1) Very long cooldown on her E, and without a matching duration on it, which doesn't do damage, so you can't even use a sacrificial weapon to address this, like you can with Qiqi.
2) No elemental particles from her E. This is something that Hoyovese really should address, for her, Noelle ,and Qiqi, but they never will, because Hoyoverse.
3) Wet status. You will get frozen.
That said, I used her for the longest time in the Abyss, until I got Kokomi. I was someone who could see the value in Kokomi because I used Barbara, and Kokomi basically fixes all three of those issues.
Barbara has been my easy favorite since the beginning. I bought merch, maxed her out and even got to meet her English VA at a con recently. Good to see her appreciated. I myself play largely for character enjoyment myself.
EDIT: Goddamn fantastic taste sir. And mad respect for addressing Barbara as her proper title at the end.
32:52 i started playing this game specifically for xinyan- a character i ADORED and could talk about for hours nonstop- and used her as a dps consistently for the first year i played the game, i got her to C6, I pulled Itto AND Eula’s weapons for her, farmed pale flame and shimenawa domains for ages until she had the best pieces on my account, she was even the first character i would triple crown!! Then my boyfriend was on my account and C6ed my Bennett (Who i mainly used to support her as a physical DPS), and it effectively ruined her team in my eyes- I didn’t want to farm to build a character as a substitute and so I tossed her to the side and ended up playing another character instead. I’m blanking on who it was but I loved them less than Xinyan for sure.
And it was around that time that Lyney came out, and it was love at first sight with his gameplay, personality, design, character demo- everything about him! and the fact that he had such high scaling, was meta, and runs best on a mono team of my favorite element didnt hurt. So with some pain to my wallet I secured him with yelan’s signature bow to kinda sorta match! And his artifact domain would give me a hard time, but i didnt even need to go through the trouble because even without a 4-pc set he was doing double, TRIPLE the numbers that I had bent over backwards to get Xinyan to do- I loved Xinyan but Lyney made the game so easy… too easy arguably. Sure its cool watching Lyney do 300k and killing everything instantly, but I miss the fun it was reaching new milestones with Xinyan, running around teyvat hearing her little drums jiggling, proving the people that called her the worst character in this game wrong!! And as much as I do like Lyney I dont have the same joy I had for Xinyan about him- it stings knowing I forsook my favorite character who was all about rejecting the status quo and being herself for a character that i s the status quo, is the easiest option for when i need things to die quickly.
This video reminded me of the joy Xinyan brought me, meta be damned! ❤🎸
That's such a heartfelt comment❤
Personally, I don't even like having a 'main', and do my best to give every character a fair try. I've played Xinyan for a bit, too (as a shield support/burst sub-dps in melt), and she was fun! She's a good person in the story; loved the second GAA bit devoted to her. Her outfit is fire. For some reason, my fav part of it are the white sleeves. They look so cozy and soft😅 And yes, the small sound of her drums was nice to hear while running around.
If I had to choose my own favorites, I'd say Xiao and Nilou. I remember how much I liked Nilou's design and attack effects AND how little the 'community' cared for her. Got her because I loved her, kept playing for the fun destructive chaos she brings to the battlefield. Got Baizhu for more variety (3 star, they said. Waste of primos, they said). This community loves playing experts so much, wonder if they'll ever self-reflect. Probably not😅
omg another xinyan main? i also started the game for her😭
@@AmoritaStorre wait they called baizhu a 3 star? no way, hes literally the best healer in the game alongside kokomi
@@-toriizaka46 EXACTLY!!
@@AmoritaStorre and he buffs! i got him for my lisa and collei. just need to raise him now lol. i cant believe he was criticised - hes a complete character at c0 and his c1 is a great quality of life const
Qiqi is unironically my favorite character since day one, her trailer was what first brought my attention to Genshin Impact.
I knew I wanted her on my team since before I even pulled her, and although I'm frequently subjected to all the memes and scorn she gets: "most useless 5 star" "the face of lost pity" ect, each one only solidified my resolve to make her my primary DPS.
The community may look down upon her, but I'll show them even Qiqi can go the whole nine yards with enough care and love put into her
Fan fact: phys qiqi was such a popular meme in russian community. Everyone was amazed at how good she was doing, and how immortal she was. Some guy even made the song abt it!
Honestly I've always loved Qiqi too, been my healer for as long as I had her(kinda my main dps for a while too), and she was so immortal it was stupid lmao. The only reason I'm not playing her is because Arlecchino doesn't benefit from healers and I refuse to not play her
qiqi as a driver in a furina team is incredible, literally chef kiss
I guess it's partially a joke, but ItsPaikon usually beats any new bosses with solo Qiqi to prove any character can be viable
@@nameynamd9212 I think it really only matters for abyss, if you focus on your team and know when to dodge you'd get through the bosses without terrible difficulty
YAY FOR PUTTING SOME RESPECT ON BARBARA'S NAME 🎉🎉🎉 i love love *love* my hydro girlies, it made me so happy to see you talking about them in such an amazing manner
Barbara C6 on Ocean Clam is broken. Bond of Life Lynette teams, Gaming Detonation (Burgeon), Chongyun, Candace, Rosaria, Barbara for a cool.
I have only one question? Do you consider Wanderer an Inazuma character?
mhm! Barbs has been my fav character since release so glad she's finally getting the respect she deserves 🥰
@@degraves2003 Yes his manufacturing and packaging date is from Inazuma
@@degraves2003 while he isn’t a sumeru character in lore, he’s regarded as one in gameplay due to his vision, and (probably) some meaningful thing that has to do with him leaving his past behind and all that
Bro she’s pretty weak cause no one plays her
"I think the real fun from this game comes from the freedom to play and enjoy it however you want."
Those words are why i decide to try other characters as time goes by.
1:54 I think what a lot of people I've seen recently do is get meta supports and use them to boost their, let's say, "meme" / "off-meta" dps characters. Aloy, Dori, Barbara, Amber, Dehya, even anemo traveler can perform well with the right supports (and sometimes weapons...)
This^
Raiden and Nahida for example are such busted Off-Field Applicators (as well fill several other roles like Batteries to the point you don't really require ER on most characters unless they have exceedingly short cooldowns or an ability that scales off ER) that you can use damn near anyone else in the other two slots either for additional reactions or just any character(s) you want to play with regardless of how they "fit" in the team...
I'm kind of doing both with On-Field/Driver Mona, who while normally is one of the few characters that can work on really any team is 95% of the time Off-Field Burst Damage Support, leaving the forth slot open for any exploration/puzzle character or Yaoyao for team EM and a 𝘙𝘦𝘤𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘈𝘵𝘰𝘮𝘪𝘤.
the craziest thing is amber best team is diona, rosaria and sucrose lol. ive seen amber mains use her with ganyu, kazuha, bennet, mona. but the most popular is the all mondstat 4 star team lol
I only follow the meta when it suits me in my effort to kill god with a small child
@@-toriizaka46 Amber's best team is Hu Tao, Yelan, and Kazuha, but okay.
@Jdogrey1 that's hutaos team, I'm talking abt teams centered on Amber's dps
As someone that started to play just for Kaeya, I 100% agree with you! Playing with your favorite characters in the overworld it's the best way to enjoy the game. When I started to struggle with my team comp I felt the need to learn more about the game mechanics and I ENJOYED IT. Barbara it's my best healer and my go-to hydro character when needed, she was my best support when I didn't have Raiden to my Kaeya team. I love her so much
One of my favorite teams is aggressively off meta, it's hyperburgeon with Kirara, Barbra, kuki, and xiangling because running into shit as the box cat is just really fun
kuki and xiangling are considered meta. but i guess xiangling burgeon isnt
sorry for breaking your "look i'm not like others" attitude, but bloom cannot be "off meta", llet alone xl and kuki as ss-tier units
@@-toriizaka46 it's because xiangling price too much pyro that rhe only one she truly shines with is childe due to riptide which, that in itself, is VERY busted
@@bequiet3944 xiangling burgeon isn't meta lol
The whole point of my comment was that it's a team I find fun
Shinobu supremacy!
Absolute favorite character is Dehya, I skipped her banner out of despair over how disappointing her kit was and regretted doing so. Since then I got her losing a 50/50 and her C1 on the standard banner and I pulled for her weapon in the "Nostalgic" banner that was held a while age and have tested out every on-field playstyle and team comps to make her work as a main dps. Unsurprisingly she is extremely usable in abyss even if her dps output isn't on par with the latest Hypercarries but she's definitely not as low in the ladder as everyone tries to make you think
Also I enabled my Bennett's C6 over a year ago because of the horrendous exclamation mark on the character icon and since every infusion-character in the game has had elemental priority for like half a decade
Dehya is way overhated! I pulled her C1 not too long ago, put her on a team with Mona and a good DPS, and she literally carried the team. She's an incredible tank and sub-DPS and I cannot understand why people don't use her more! I put her on almost every team at this point, she's just that great- even with not so great stats on her Vourukasha's Glow set. I worked so hard to get her that set and it's worked wonders for every team I use!
Dehya and Emilie are my fave duo currently ^~^
i love dehya so much
I am a Sayu main. Anemo and element infusion in skill, adorable Daruma mascot, heals, small character wielding a greatsword, extremely useful passive...
And most of all, impressive character development: humorous hangout that's engaging and endearing, and as she ascends she goes from sleepy ninja who avoids responsibilities to focus on growing taller, to fighting her sleepiness to spend more time with MC, to saying she doesn't need to grow taller anymore cause she's got MC to reassure her and becomes overall mature enough to forge her own path.
So now, I bring her as my main member alongside MC, and I document their travels in the my novel, "The Legend of Sayu", where she travels Teyvat and maybe beyond for her sensei, to find herself and the constant drive for growth.
Awesome!!!
As a actual Gaming main. A character prone to taking ungodly damage by default, Barbara has pulled amazing W's for him. I hate people who try and say "play this character because they are better then this one"..im here to have fun man 😭
As a Xiao main, I can relate lol. My team would be nothing without Zhongli, Bennett, and Barbara.
"The strongest character you get early game is Barbara"
Proven two times. CN world records abyss 36* speedrun on new account. Barbara Nilou - 6 days. Barbara Raiden - 4 days.
Speaks for itself.
@@Ayayuda Friend labor involved. One account played by 2-3 players with day-night shifts. Yes, account itself never slept rotated between different players.
3 days 36* speedrun didn't include Barbara.
@@AleeWiksa I can't find 3 days 36* speedrun, where? World record is 4 days.
There is no way that she is that strong for a normal player. That is for a very specific method, and let me tell you, this guy does not build Barbara like they do.
@@Ayayudayou can do a month of f2p farming in 3 days with money.
2:50 “passing the baton” while playing persona 5 music was unintentionally clever
Klee and Nahida are my little babies who could be as or least meta as they wanted and I would still give the world for them. Nahida is extremely easy to slot into basically any team, as you stated, specially with Fountain's latest Hydro powercreep (plus Furina is amazing in her own right) but poor Klee is so hard to use in most situations due to Pyro leaning to big one shots, rather than consistent DPS. You can tell she was just about the first non-Archon limited 5 star lmao.
But my little sparkle knight got a new spotlight for me, as basically everyone does, with Furina, with me running Klee, Nahida, Furina and YaoYao for so much explosion fun!!
Burgeon Klee and Klee Xianyun Plunge are pretty cool
Try New artifact for burning Klee
A lot of bosses have a narrow window of opportunity to hit them really hard, while they're invulnerable (or keeping you busy) much of the time. That's when "burst DPS" like Klee are needed, raining apocalyptic destruction in the span of a few seconds.
I farmed FoPL for Klee and witnessing the absolute destruction burgeon Klee commits is so satisfying and hilarious. I knew I had to pull for Klee when she got her rerun alongside her new skin~ I was determined to make her powerful with burgeon! She's not even holding a 5* weapon, she's holding R5 Magic Guide x'D and she's already breached past 1000 EM. I'm sure if I pulled for Nahida's signature and C2 Nahida, her damage will be nuclear! But that's a fun long-term investment for the future >:3
Also, what's great about farming a great FoPL set is that I can borrow it for another character. When I finally get to pull Nilou on her rerun, I'll lend FoPL to either Barbara or future Kokomi~
Klee, Kirara, Xingqiu and Nahida is a great Burgeon team!
I can relate to this feeling of playing who I like. My main lineup is Electro Lumine, Ganyu, Barbara, and Thoma. I don't care for the meta, but I just love Ganyu's design, voice, and gameplay style. I saved up for months to get her during her first rerun and got her on my final pull. To me, there's always merit in doing something for the love of it.
While I agree that being disappointed that she wasnt what they wanted is fair, I do think the backlash against the devs who were just trying to make her stand out from the other anemo units and give her a unique playstyle for a playstyle that had been largely ignored for a long time was completely unjustified lol I saw people saying horrible things because of their disappointment directed at the devs, and I have to say this community is one of the most childish, entitled, garbage communities I have ever had the displeasure of saying I was a part of. The way the playerbase treats the devs is absurd, blaming them for things that are the higher ups/producers fault (like how many reward primos we get during anniversary/per update which is decided by the producers who manage the developer team, not the developers themselves) and when they personally arent happy with a character, even though you literally cannot please everyone and the people who end up displeased act like the devs should have catered to THEIR preferences specifically because...well, I guess they're special in their own minds and deserve to be catered to lol
The way the fans of this game handle disappointment is just a damn mess, and I feel worse and worse for the devs every day.
I usually send them an encouraging message during those times, and the response is always lovely.
Love this video. I really enjoy playing as Kaeya and Diluc and I don't care if some people try and suggest to me to play as someone else for whatever reason because love playing as them. Barbara is such an awesome character as well !! I am glad you found your favourite :>
I like Barbara too. I have less use for her recently, but I still call her when it's about breaking pyro shield of the pyro flower or the pyro cube. But her greatest time to shine was when I got Nilou and Nahida and started playing Nilou bloom team still not having Kokomi. Even on healing build and only equipped with sacrificial fragments (and leveled up to 90) she was my driver in that team and seeing her emerge from a pile of dissolving enemy remains was absolutely hilarious. For me, that was second game changing moment with the first being getting Zhongli and experiencing the game in Easy mode for the first time. And yes, I am clearing one half of Abyss with Nilou bloom ever since then.
When it comes to Abyss, it seems to me you're about in the phase where I was about a year ago. Could beat it to 36 stars but it was hard and I needed to switch teams for floor 12 more often than not. Give it another year and I'm sure your characters will be good enough to even have fun clearing it.
I have a lot of favorite characters. In fact I think the list of those that are not my favorite would be shorter. And with it comes another problem. I have too many characters I like to play.
With regards to Meta, I did pay attention to it when I was not good enough to beat Abyss and when I still had problems with it. Paying attention to which characters to prioritize, how to build them and how to use them in battle really paid off. I am now strong enough that I can afford to neglect it and still succeed but that first phase was very important in my opinion.
And finally a note about healers. I like to help other people in the game when I run out of things to do for me. And I realized that absolute majority of people who need help totally neglect the sustainability part of the game, collecting and building DPS characters only and then struggling in combat. Kokomi is my single most used character whenever I am helping them.
About Kokomi, the reason she is so good is because she is not just a healer. She deals incredible damage and applies a ton of hydro. Because of that, she is just better than a normal healer like Barbara.
i'm honestly tired of people telling me that geo is the worst element or it lacks reactions ect. while i find it incerdibly fun to play. i started playing this game for itto initially and 2 years later still use him regularly.
Navia design, personality and her animations are the reason why I pulled her. I think Geo characters in general have a fun story and hangout quest.
Don't forget that Xianyun's healing is for the entire party at once, not just the on-field character, which gives her great synergy with Furina's stack mechanic.
You know what has the best synergy with Furina's stack mechanic? Furina. I seriously do not understand why so many people refuse to vertically invest in their characters instead of getting a bunch of characters they will never use.
@@Jdogrey1do explain, I don't really have the best luck so collecting multiples of the same character isn't an option for me (if that's what you mean).
@Jdogrey1 because sub dps furina is stronger than healer furina. Healer is meant for only emergencies, off field and overworld. Bosses however? No. You want her sub dps because MINIMUM is 20k per tick. And you get 3 per 3 seconds.. that's an instant 60k every 3 for 20+ seconds. This is compared to her pathetic 4k+ healing [5k if invested] per tick. Baizhu does more. Not to mention the downside of healer mode furina is:
No energy particles.
No reactions.
No applications.
Loss of MASSIVE damage output.
Longer rotations for places like abyss.
@@Jdogrey1 Furina's healing is for exploring the overworld, obnoxious jackass.
@@Jdogrey1 Some people find fun having multiple characters and trying out different teamcomps instead of just building 8 characters to C6R5 and have 2 broken teams to play.
As a kaeya main I ressonate so much with you! I farmed like hell for him, pulled him r2 (as of now) mistsplitter and got some comments saying its a waste to not get ayaka instead and other times to switch him off the team in coop.
I also feel you so much on pulling a character everyone tells you not to pull! This mondstat banner I finally pulled albedo that I wanted for a long time, even when everyone says he is crap and got powercrept I am still having so much fun with him! (Trolling people in boss battles with his elevator is the highlight of my week now LMAO).
I have a top 2% wrio but If i can play cryo in abyss I'll always pick kaeya or find someway to put him on the team and I CAN clear the abyss. This is why I love this game it's so versatile and with enough love and dedication you can make any character SHINE!
So I preach once again, PLAY WITH THE CHARACTERS YOU LIKE!
Even if the meta discourages you and you cant clear the abyss with that character as the main focus find a way to slot them in! It's so much more fun figuring out teams where you can put them and gaining the satisfaction of suceeding than just folding and always building the same paper cut teams everyone uses!
This is a game, HAVE FUN!
I've also been building Kaeya for as long as I've been playing the game. He's lvl 80 now and I'm at AR45. I got told multiple times that I could use Chongyun instead, but I like Kaeya the most
@@zeldawolff358 I wish you the best in your journey! Ignore what other people say and have fun :D
Lol I love Albedo on co op. I could not get him 🥲
I totally agree.. Especially paragraph two..
Sure my pulls eventually become meta in a way, Wrio, Alhaitham, even if their release was doomposted, especially alhaitham with all the dendro keqing..
My teams have so much variety..
Wrio burnmelt, Alhaitham Hyperbloom, Ganyato Freeze, Ayathoma burgeon, Clorinde Aggravate, the usual team..
But then, there's the Razor Physical, Chongyun Melt, Kaveh Freezebloon (still waiting for Nilou to rerun, again, lost 50/50 AGAIN), Lisa Overload (waiting for C6, as of now C4)..
Still waiting for Heizhou and Sethos.. These two arghh I've pulled a lot on their banners, yet NONE..
@@Moussecakess if only they buff hos geo construct to be something like Chiori or Kachina.. That thing breaks too easily
Very well said my friend. This here is exactly why I value favorites/waifus over meta because I want to have fun playing this game. Just because they said that they're quote on quote "low tier character", I still pull for them regardless for my enjoyment. I even did my very first 36 star in the abyss with my favorite characters and it was rewarding.
I come from years of playing MMORPGs like WOW and having a dedicated healer on the team is something I value very much. When all hope is lost, the cool DDs are all either dead or low on HP, Barbara sings her song and instantly everyone is good to go again. Adding hydro to your enemies is also quite a benefit.
Don't know how good it is given the cooldown, but her C6 also gives an auto revive(of which is one of two revives in the game)
@@nameynamd9212 Her auto revival has a long CD tho 😭
@@parkchimmin7913it shouldn't be that necessary. her burst does massive heal for the full team and she has passive heals while being in the field and her elemental is healing+hydro application. her entire existence is basically healing. if her team mate still dies it's not her fault anymore lol
Im a big lover Xinyan and Aloy. Ive made build that make them really shine and im so proud that i did. They both deserve so much more love from the community!
Same - I've been an Aloy main since her release and she's great to me lol
Same. People often forgot who the black sheep of the Genshin community actually is. It's not Barbara or Kujo Sara or even Amber. It's Aloy and Xinyan 😭
when i hear someone says a character is bad, it encourages me to prove they arent. i have a dps barbra and she’s carried me through so much.
I came down here to talk about Barbara on the Nilou Bloom team and I'm SO GLAD that so many other people are here to talk about her too. She is legit SO FUN to play on a bloom team. She heals in a way that I like, on hit during a high uptime skill, and because of that I don't ever think that I'll pull for Kokomi. Barbara and Noelle have that "heal on hit" trigger that I know I can rely on, especially in such an HP-sapping team such as Nilou bloom. Not to mention the bloom playstyle is INSANELY FUN. Barbara has been on my team since 1.0, and I expect her to stay that way well into the Khaenriah chapter.
Hello! I just want to ask what team you use for Barbara and Nilou bloom team since I’m trying to build one currently.
@@S_8_Fjust put any 2 dendro characters and your golden
it used to be better until hoyo slaped her with a hard icd limit in 3.1
@@S_8_Fnahida if you have her + off field dendro (typically collei)
if not, dmc + collei is default f2p team, you can use yao/baizhu for more healing (barbs can invest more into em this way)
kirara shouldnt be played off-field w/o nahida (im assuming you want to play babs onfield)
avoid alhaitham, kaveh they have long field time reqs and want xq/yelan. and i have no idea abt tighnari tbh
This has actually happened to me. Before I got my ex-best friend getting into my account and deleting my weapons and artifacts, also spending all my wishes on the standard banner, I was quite a bit of a meta-player. After losing everything, I had to start from zero with my characters, and, surprisingly, I had Dehya in my account, which was a character that I didn't have and wanted. So, I started playing with her and... Damn, I was having a lot of fun with her. I loved playing with her despite how bad she was. I replaced Zhongli for her, and I love how fun she is to have (I love characters that make areas of effects tho). I feel like the main issue with genshin is that the meta tends to take appart the "fun" concept of this game, and, sometimes the game should recieve some things to make these characters stand out even more (like what happened with the artifact sets from fontaine, that made characters like Fischl powerful again)
glad to hear that's ur ex-best friend now lmao, and ur absolutely right, i've been trying to 36 star the abyss for so long now but i literally cant do it despite using pretty meta comps and my builds aren't bad by any means, and i've noticed that's totally sucked the fun out of the game for me so now i just say fuck it i'll take my 32 stars and enjoy the game instead, because the story really was what drew me in to begin with and taking time to actually explore the world is refreshing, especially with the music omg
Metagame is about optimizing, not necessarily to have more fun. You can still use the meta for reference, guideline at most, but there's some balance required. The biggest joy you can obtain from following the meta is to saving you a lot of time and effort in making a wrong decision. If you want to use Dehya, you might want to use her the best way you can
I’m sorry that happened to you. That was an extremely shitty thing to do. I’m glad they’re your ex-friend now and I’m glad you had fun despite what happened.
oh my god that's unironically horrible, man that's just vile
Furina has boosted my favorite character in a big way.
People dunk on Noelle, but ill just keep swinging my redhorn for 70,000 a pop while being invincible.
There's this line from Pokemon that I think really applies in this case.
"Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the foolish perception of people. Truly skilled Trainers should try to win with their favorites."
I've been a Venti main since the first Windblume event, and I love bringing him into co-op with his DPS build. Sure, he doesn't do crazy numbers, but he can more than assist people. The "only good characters" mentality actually made my opinion of my once beloved Qiqi sour - she was my first five star, and I had a whole headcanon about her a younger sister figure to Aether.. but eventually the community memes got to me, and she's sat gathering dust for a while. This video inspired me to try and bring her back.
I’m sorry I called you Dragon slacker ❤
I immediately latched on to Barbara.
My friends have all started saying Live Laugh Love Barbara whenever I play with them
I am AR 50
I play characters I like. Randomly pulled Heizou when I started playing but couldn’t level him up until Inazuma. Still played with him for exploration until then, now he’s my pride and joy even tho he’s not completely built yet! I really try new team comps every once in a while and even my favorites feel fresh with new teammates. Loved your video, well spoken and fun! The edit is top tier too, love the quality!!
As a big dehya fan. I relate to this vid so much. i got her at AR15 and loved her kit design and personality before even the liyue story. So when i got to experience her story in sumeru along with the archon quests it solidified my love for Dehya. Since then shes my strongest character with my best artifact +beacon and she'll be triple crowned tomorrow and C6ed when she appears on a banner again.
Fontaine igniting the love for genshin is so true
I loved exploring it sooooo much, that i created 2nd account just to relive the story, the exploration with amazing music and ended up 100% whole Fontaine twice
And that 2 account got me to finally get to play main dps heizou, who i wanted to play since his release
Great video
honestly, im actually finishing the sumeru quest for it (i don't know why it was so hard)
I love just playing the characters you like. Been maining Hu Tao since her debut and even after she lost her meta, I’m still maining her
People usually aren't fair to characters' strength without proper investment. If we were fair, a 5*C0 power should be measured against a 4* C0R1. Xiangling is almost never used without abusing Benny snapshot, and C4, which could be considered unintended like Barbara's Bloom incident.
Characters like Benny also does not scale that well with investment, whereas if you have C6 Amber with Elegy/Noblesse (ALWAYS buy your starter constellation), you give your team half of Benny's ATK buff, no circle impact, lot less ER requirements, Extra EM, shred elemental shields and *deals damage herself.* Everything is decent with proper investment and everything can be made OP by finding the right strats or just being that skilled.
I main Lisa. I'm trying to build her for a Charged ATK/TF set.
Swap, use skill, burst, time your NAs and CAs properly to always proc Aggravate. This stacks conductive on enemies to use skill again before swapping out. Deals a surprising amount of damage. About 15K CAs/35K skill without Benny.
I love Barbara too. I gave her one of the two Tomes I got from pulling for Homa. Passive can be activated with Bloom. Get some Anemo resonance/Stamina reduction and you can permanently spam Charged attacks.
I'm not sure I agree with your "fair measurements." HoYo designs 4* characters under the assumption that most players will C6 them at some point in time. A C6 4* character is roughly comparable to a C0 5*. Their value has some margin below and above that benchmark, depending on which two characters you're comparing, but generally speaking C6 is the character's proper kit.
@@effortlessfury Yes. But if we are talking in terms of investment vs value it would make sense to compare a 5* C0 with a 4* C0 R1 (on average). We can easily do 5* vs 4* C2 or 3 if you get lucky with pulls.
@@infrnlmssh9719 I mean, you can compare them like that, but in that case a 4* will almost always lose.
Not really C6 is needed for 4* I think,I mean it can but not that much...Maybe only Faruzan
@@effortlessfury i'd say most good 4 stars at c6 are more like a good c1 5 star. somewhat stronger than a c0 5star. of course there's a lot of variance of both sides, with some 5 stars being worse than a c0 4 star (alloy and qiqi), and some 4 stars that even at c6 are worthless
I know it's been like. 8 months but BARBARA MENTIONED!!!
I like everything about her and have been using her ever since i started playing (still do after leaving for two years) and recently have started to build her as another DPS
Barbara my beloved
25:15 "..they allow for more leeway in combat" the Liyue pun was on purpose right..... 😂😂 Good stuff!
I don't really play for the meta but it just so happens that I really really liked Arlechino as soon as I saw her, it's pretty fun to have a character u like and they're the meta
I recently started building Xinyan because I genuinely loved her design for the longest time but thought she was just not good because of what people have told me, but one day after getting tired of the same boring routine of farming for a pyro goblet for my Lyney, I decided he was good the way he is, he doesn't need perfect artifacts and he can beat this game with the drop of his hat, and so I finally build Xinyan, despite what people thought of her, and I don't regret that at all, I love playing her so much as a pyro/melt dps with my c6 Bennett, Xianyun and Rosaria, She's far from perfect yes, but she's amazing in my eyes and I won't ever feel bored when I play with her, I only regret not building her earlier, maybe I wouldn't have been so burnt out every other month, but that's beside the point, Xinyan is everything to me and I'll keep playing with her no matter how pressured I feel from the meta
(Lyney is my best boy but wow did I get drained while farming for that dumb goblet)
I joined in 1.2 and went up until Sumeru only maining Klee, when I changed to Cyno/Nahida/Traveler/Dori, and I really gotta thank Barbara for carrying me in that damned Witch of Flames domain, I mostly did Co-Op because my characters were all Pyro/Electro (which the domain hates) and she was the best way for me to help, and I still use her in my hyperbloom team years later
Nice work -- great production value
This video just randomly showed up on my feed and I figured I'd give it a shot. Now I'm at the end of it and I feel more excited to play genshin then I have in a very long time! Great video!
The biggest problem with the "meta" is that a lot of people fail to understand that it specifically applies to the merits (or lack thereof) of a character's value in being able to successfully perform in a very, very small part of Genshin Impact. Specifically, the 12th Floor of the Spiral Abyss. Outside of that, the only metric that matters is whether a character is "fun". And "fun" is subjective. So by this logic, Barbara isn't very good for the 12th Floor of the Spiral Abyss, but, for myself and many other people, she has a lot of intrinsic value that makes her both "useful" and "fun".
But here too, her value is subjective. I can, and have, beat the 12th Floor with teams that includes Barbara. Seriously, outside of "speed running", you don't need meta characters to beat the Spiral Abyss. If anything, at least for me personally, trying to beat the Spiral Abyss with non-meta approved characters is way more fun and satisfying. Additionally, characters like Barbara and Amber, for example, are or can be a valuable part of the Genshin experience.
Another thing that is seldom mentioned is that combat in the open world and combat in the Spiral Abyss are very different experiences and challenges. The Spiral Abyss is simply a boxing arena with a timer. Open world combat gives the characters context - it gives meaning and value to combat. There is a different set of objectives, such as trying to obtain a chest or materials plus there's other factors thrown in such as terrain and the environment in which the combat takes place. All of these gives "real" meaning for combat; why the characters fight is given context and because of this textural context, it makes using each one much more value.
Think about it this way. How many Spiral Abyss fights do you remember? As opposed to, for example, the satisfaction you get from using Amber to snipe a hilichurl off a watch tower and giving her team a way into their camp without worrying about being sniped at from above or behind? Open world fights really do enrich your Genshin experience in a way that an Abyss fight can never do, simply because these experiences deepens your connections to your characters.
In the final analysis, your Genshin experience is really about what you do with, and the times you experience with your (favorite) characters within the context of the world in which they exist.
this is the most perfect explanation. ive decided to bench xiangling bcs grass kept burning lol and using her burst in the overworld is a waste. i raised amber, easy overworld use, 40 burst cost and taunt. some cryo apllication and baron bunny expolsion kills everything (i got c2)
This. I've always been an advocate for people playing how they enjoy the game. I love using Xiao especially since I like his design, story and gameplay. That said, I'm aware how my favorites will not be the best in every situation and forcing them in these situations only makes the game hard for me, and that is not something I find fun at all. I do get how being able to achieve something with the characters you like can be really satisfying and fun for everyone else though.
It's just that I mostly play games to chill and I don't enjoy making things difficult for myself. The only time I really play meta is when doing spiral abyss for the primos because I suck at games and just want to get it over quickly. And then afterwards, I go back to playing my Xiao in the overworld and doing quests and story.
I went through 12 floor exactly once - to see what in the end (underwhelming). After that I understood that spend literal hours of my day and a ton of stress for completing Spiral Abyss for primogems is seems like an absurdly not fun idea for me personally
So now I often don’t even remember that Spiral Abyss exists lmao it just isn’t a part of the game I interact with. So there is no need to measure my characters against hp-bloated npc with unskippable animations and whatever else
My mains (played since almost the beginning): Amber -> Phys Keqing -> Xiao -> Wanderer
It is a blissful way of playing and I have lovely memories from that
(My favorite is my first confrontation with Raiden Shogun where she unexpectedly blocked all abilities and my Phys Keqing was… unimpressed. And bodied her)
That stuff you mentioned at the end about how the real fun is growing your favourites, I think that really resonated with me. As much as I have my misgivings with Genshin's story and writing, and even during Genshin's dry spells, I still do feel a sense of satisfaction from growing my favourites and seeing how powerful I can make them. There are so many characters at this point that there's a good chance anyone could be someone's favourite, and I think that's a wonderful thing.
Also I dunno why but I've always felt like Barbara has some of the quickest and snappiest basic attacks in the game, certainly among the other catalyst users anyway, so playing her like a DPS can honestly feel quite good imo
This video was a journey. I had it in the background as I did my dailies and at some point I had my controller down and stopped playing cuz I was just focusing on what was being said while nodding in agreement. This was a fun shared experience as I went through a nostalgic memory trip about my own genshin journey going from stubbornly putting Amber in all my teams to moving on and trying out different teams to falling in love to other character playstyles I didn't think I would love.
Worth noting that when Barbara's E is active, if you leave her on field every one of her attacks will heal the whole party.
For me it's Noelle. I loved her design from the moment I saw it. I then loved her voice, personality and lore. Her kit was everything I love in RPG's, a bulky invincible paladin with massive normal attacks and party healing. She immediately became my main character for everything and my focus in the game became to make her parties stronger with any weapons or characters I could. I'm lucky Noelle ended getting so many buffs. A new artifact set, a new signature weapon and new party members that have been great for her like Gorou, Yelan, Chiori, Navia and specially Furina massively buffing her whole party. Right now people have a hard time really understanding how good she is, they wouldn't believe her results.
I've had this same energy when it comes to Amber, she's been with me in every nation even after getting Xiongling. playing "off meta" is the peak shit
the “meta be damned” for me was kazuha, everyone talked so much shit about him back when he was first released, i even had people criticize me for pulling him, it was so insane bc to me he was good and i loved his design i didn’t care if his bis didn’t match his aesthetic and eventually everyone wanted him after skipping him for ayaka/raiden that were soon coming so im glad people came around but im not forgetting how his release went 😅
i literally started playing the game again for Kazuha! He looked dope and happened to be fun which was enough for me to stick with the game :D
I feel the same way with Layla. Yes is she worse then Zhongli on paper, but she is pretty, i love her personality and how her abilities look and I do not like Zhongli very much as a character i find him boring. So i never really bothered to pull for him and just put my investment into a shielder into Layla.
I'm about to do the same! I love Layla's design so much
My favorite late bloomer is Thoma. I fell in love with his design and personality from the start, but he felt odd to play and didn't really bring much to the team. Then dendro happened. Let me tell you, burgeon Thoma is so satisfying! I love his skill animation and the explosions just fit perfectly 😊
I literally took my barbara to level 80 a few years ago, she was DEFENETLY gold for me, i got her c6 and i was so happy, not only cause i loved her desgin, but also because she is one of the best healers wich you can get early in the game.
I used to go into online domains with other players and just use her to heal them up because otherwhise they would just die EVERY SINGLE TIME. I think meta is something that can just ruin the fun, which is the main reason why you play a game lmao
This video is just what I keep telling people who want to know who is best. It doesn't matter how good or 'meta' a character is, if the character is not fun. I'm a bit tired tonight after having been told over and over again how bad Baizhu is and how much these people hate him. I enjoy having Baizhu in my team and I've never been disappointed with his usefulness either. Thank you for making this video it cheered me up.
Baizhu is the zhongli of healers. I've legit argued with someone who claimed yaoyao does more than him when she doesn't. And people arguing that hosting cons suck and should be on the standard literally don't know how broken his cons truly are too. At c2 he's so hard to replace in any team comp. At c6 someone posted screenshots of 1 E [1 BTW!] Doing 20k hp. FKING. 1 TAP! that's half of a hp% units Hp bar. 2 taps is 40k! That's half of a nilou or yelan's health bar! Add his signature and you don't have ER issues.
I follow meta and theorycrafting quite actively (theorycrafting generally being the term used for calculating and simulating the damage of characters in different teams), and do find it odd that Baizhu is getting so much hate in your experience, the general consensus I've seen is that he's a rather excellent character. A step below those considered the 'best of the best', your Furinas, Kazuhas, Bennetts, and whatnot, but still a great unit overall and very worthwhile.
Of course, I don't mean to say that your liking of Baizhu is changed in validity in any way with this comment, I'm fully in support of playing the characters you like most and finding ways to make them work for you. Consider this just a small observation I found a bit interesting when I read the comment!
@HorriblyDated the entire argument for why he got hate is because "all he does is heal" when he's literally the best at it. No one can compare. Especially in furina teams. Yet before furina he was the 2nd most hated next to dehya.
@@nobody-xh6ii Weirdly I think you're both overselling and underseling Baizhu here, since in terms of raw healing, he's probably not 'the best', Yaoyao actually beats him on that front, and it's arguable a couple of others do too. The thing that makes Baizhu so great isn't that he has the most healing in the game, it's that he provides enough healing to very comfortably survive and enable Furina with less caveats than other options while also providing additional useful benefits. It feels like a disservice to reduce him down to just his healing when he has plenty of other useful attributes he can bring to a team too, so I wanted to bring some of them up.
To highlight some of them, the biggest one is that he can do his teamwide healing without taking a ton of field time whereas other options that may heal more require more field time to do so, a substantial downside. Baizhu also can apply better dendro than the vast majority of characters off field, giving him that as an additional advantage, and he can also provide his micro-shields with burst which serve as useful interruption resistance for teams where you use a character prone to getting knocked back.
Before Furina I will admit I and a lot of others did view him as somewhat replaceable from a meta standpoint, as he was only a minor upgrade over or arguably a sidegrade to Yaoyao, a 4 star, but I still found most to view him as very competent and effective at his role if he was chosen, so he was considered a pretty decent pull if you liked him, even back then.
I don't mean to invalidate what you saw by saying this though, it's likely that we were simply in different communities at the time, and there is certainly a large subset of rather toxic players who will doompost everyone and act as if a new character not being the next coming of Christ means they're completely useless and 'unviable'. Something I'm very much against as one of the best qualities of genshin to me is that even when following the meta, nobody is truly unusable, some may take more effort to make work than others, or require more planning around, but with sufficient investment into them and the right teams, I believe every character can clear abyss in some way or another.
@@HorriblyDatedmy goat
The ONLY character (so far) to outshine Barbara's utility (for me) was Yaoyao. Barbara was my first crowned unit. She was my only hydro for a solid year. I built her for DPS and her charge attack is like instant delete. Despite the years of favoritism towards Barbara, yaoyao is my new favorite. Optimally built for attack and healing, she can throw down some serious number (smaller numbers in greater succession). I built her burst for maximum damage with emblem and lots of ER. Since she needs to stay on the field for her burst, it's better to build her burst out for damage. With Furina on the team, I am no longer sacrificing damage to have a healer on the team. My Sucrose, Xiangling, Yaoyao, and Furina team (Bloom, vaporize, Burgeon, Pokemon team) is my ultimate favoire setup.
The Kokomi drama was pretty much of Hoyo's own making. The issue was (and kinda still is) that Hoyo doesn't seem to know how to make challenging content without putting a time limit on things, which inevitably means that the win condition is primarily just to deal enough damage in a short amount of time. The fact that one of the primary multipliers was completely shut off from the beginning meant that Kokomi was never going to deal good damage, and she didn't give any easy to understand buffs to let your other characters deal that damage instead either. The AoE Hydro application was good, but we kinda already had Mona for that, so that didn't seem that amazing either (at least not at first glance).
Tbh Dehya is kinda in the same boat (though she probably has it worse) where we haven't really figured out many ways for Dehya to not be bad. Her kit is unique, so in theory there should be roles to use her in that no other character can fulfill, but because her numbers are so bad it's just incredibly difficult to find scenarios where she's not actively holding back your team.
Dehya's unique role is that she can't really die to environmental damage in the overworld. That is her niche. Unfortunately that niche doesn't affect any of harder content in Genshin.
The thing that would make Dehya's value increase would be Spiral Abyss or a variant of it including mechanics or enemies that straight up harm you via just existing. Example: an enemy that triggers Sheer Cold when you aggro it.
@@Wizard_Lizard_ In other words, bring back leyline disorders in Abyss.
Tbh to this day, I think the Regisvines are some of the most well-designed bosses in the game, simply for the fact that they don't have annoying invul phases, they don't TP all over the place, they just deal a lot of damage and have some unique dmg reduction. It feels like the kind of fight where, as long as you're not stupid, you can somehow make it work. Instead of facing an enemy that is designed to waste your time and takes basically no skill to defeat and where, for some godforsaken reason, movement speed is a useful stat because 90% of the battle is spent running after the enemy instead of attacking them.
@@darkdude1996ify Leyline disorders coming back is a good call. They just need to make sure they aren't too intrusive as players complaining about them is why they rarely show up anymore.
This is the only way I know how to give Dehya something without directly buffing her. Because as it stands, in any situation where her Pyro application is good Xiangling's (a free character) is simply just better and deals more DMG. And situations where her Pyro application isn't good she's effectively just a very bad shielder.
At first I played this game when it came out and while I enjoyed it, I always thought there were other games that I wanted to play at the time. And then about a year later, literally the best thing ever was added to this game, Kazuha. Kazuha was probably the coolest looking character to me that I'd ever seen and that was enough to get me back into it. Now here I am playing this game almost every day of my life! This beautiful man is too much fun to play and empowers most of my other favorites in this game! Also he just turned out to be REALLY good in this game... yay me! (shoutouts to Albedo, I failed his 50/50 every time... i still dont have him)
Beidou is my favorite character in this game. She had and will continue to be my main DPS in the game. She’s not the *only* character I use as a main DPS, but uh she doesn’t have some of my best artifacts for no reason lol
14:35 Ganyu was overly buffed from the way she was in the beta. Like massively.
And this was due to the fact testers lamented her being underwhelming in the beta.
this is the exact video i needed. as a thoma main i get comments like "hes so bad" "he cant do damage" but then i hit huge numbers and it makes it so much more rewarding than hitting the same number with for ex hu tao or arlecchino. all it matters is you love the character and are willing to dedicate your time and effort into making them good. i generally gravitate towards "weak" four stars such as heizou, kirara, chongyun, freminet, kaveh, candace, layla, gorou, and love the idea of giving all of them a fighting chance. this week i managed to defeat this 12th floor abyss kenkis with dps thoma and xianyun, who was an incredible buff to my thoma aswell. hopefully more people will see this video and take it to heart♥
I have been building Anemo Damage (DPS) Venti for a long time now.
I reached an upper limit, which I was satisfied with, because it was nearly futile to try to push that limit.
Playing that way was probably what made me happiest playing Genshin
Honestly, the ever increasing push for Genshin meta is ANNIHILATING the fun of Genshin. Any person who says they're burned out on or tired of Genshin and used to love it but don't anymore most likely (with some exceptions, of course) has that rooted in the eternal push for meta. Instead of playing who they enjoy and want, they're constantly throwing characters away, complaining characters are 'weak', and giving up any playstyle that isn't hyper-swap hyperbloom because 'big numbers'. Personally, my metric for whether I will pull a character is first 'are they male'. If no, is there a male character I don't have coming up soon? If no, is the unit powerful enough to spend my primos on or am I bored saving up primos and do I feel like pulling on the gacha? I got lucky getting Nahida because I took a break from Genshin, came back and didn't know what my pity was, didn't look at leaks and so didn't know who was coming, and had free lantern rite pulls. (and then I immediately learned Neuvillette was coming and had to panic scramble around Teyvat to ensure I could get him...) But outside of the rare times when I'm 100% caught up on men (I quit right before Fontaine for a bit because I hit 100% male units) the female SSR units just don't exist to me (and I neglect the four stars). Genshin's meta means nothing to me, I build my own.
"Personally, my metric for whether I will pull a character is first 'are they male'" this made me laugh lol, husbando collector i guess?
@@-toriizaka46 I am indeed! I shall get all the boys and make my own husbando meta.
Swapping to Candace and Kaveh as mains has made this game 1000% more fun
@@maevethefox5912 Aw, yeah. I love playing silly things with Kaveh. Like using Kaveh + someone like Baizhu or Tighnari against Oceanid and watching everything explode.
personally my meta is similar, but i dont pull for every male character, only those that "strike my fancy" so to speak
which led me to c6r5 itto, c0 childe, cyno, wanderer, lyney and a buncha 5* from standard. and currently am maining itto because bonk is fun
reject meta, embrace playing with your oshi's
this was such a cute video
Playing Genshin with "suboptimal" characters is my bread and butter!
My Fischl's build has been glued to Barbara's from day 1, as they are my main duo since release: Of course I play all of the other teams, but I always keep on coming back to that simple "core" of on-fleid Barbara making Oz go _Pew pewpew pew pew_ like crazy on all the things, ignoring defenses and doing silly reaction damage! Kazuha likes Electro-Charged? Into this team he goes! Albedo buffs EM? Another friend was found! Nahida likes reactions and EM? Welcome into the fray, Dendro Archon! Dehya can do Burgeon? another silly teammate added! Layla can shield 'n' Freeze, while Freminet wants to break the ice? Another two teammates into my silly comp! Eula wants Electro and a healer? Welcome too, my Physical goddess! And the list goes on and on. XD
Barbara carried me in the early game. No doubt. I still use her as a bloom dps on sac frag. SHE DOES WONDERS.
Great video. I was a Kaveh main for the longest time just cause I loved to hear him say “FEAST YOUR EYES”. Couldn’t care less about meta. I’m now using Xianyun a lot, love her play style
10:50 In the meanwhile me, playing Taser since I've rolled her.
People kept saying she was bad from the start.
Now guess what, people use Hyperbloom all around and nothing beats it.
Guess what Hyperbloom is. Yeah, taser plus dendro.
11:48 and ironically, her best partner. The best taser team for Kokomi uses raiden shogun...
The first time I logged onto genshin was during 1.6 update. It was a different time with me not understanding that it's a gacha game and expecting to get every character for free the same way I get amber et al, nor I completely understood artifacts or team rotations, I just spammed normal attacks. At some point I pulled on a standard banner and got a yanfei. Instantly fell in love. Her animations, her voice, her attacks. It was just simply too good. I stuck with her. She was in my party all the time during the time when I came back to genshin after inazuma release. Granted yanfei does get a "pass" to be a good character, unlike some other characters like barbara (who, by the way was also on my team throughout my journey in teyvat and I got her to level 80), but she was my favourite character regardless of how much damage she dealt because it wasn't that much until some point, I just liked her.
By the time I got to ar45 and could farm 5-star artifacts I think I've started to grasp how to build teams to bring out the most out of your DPS character. I learned that I could pair yanfei with xinqiu or yelan to build vapefei. I learned that she could also be used with raiden. My experience with yanfei and raiden wasn't that good, so I stuck with vapefei for the longest time. I can't recall how much hours I spent in crimson witch domain, and currently she is THE strongest character on my team.
Times have changed after I completed the content in sumeru and fontaine and I've got a few more toys to play with. Xiao, Raiden, Nilou, Nahida. And all the characters have decently good numbers, but there's still something nice about assemblin' a good ol' roaster of overvape (yelan + xq), and beating the smack out of everyone around. With proper supports (bennet, yelan) she can deal solid 70k's all around with her E and charged attacks and it manages to kill the life out of most enemies around. I was kinda shocked that people in multiplayer were acting surprised at my yanfei's damage, I think I got used to it, but that gave me an understanding just how much I've grown.
Kazuha banner rolled in this patch and I've finally upgraded my yanfei from c0 to c4 and managed to get kazuha!
Great video, thanks for posting! I got really inspired to build that silly DPS barbara build now :)
Im so impressed you have music names listed in the video. Very few creators take the time to show that so it's impressive.
You see these 1-5% of ppl who 36 abyss with Eula? I'm one of them and won't give up on her
The only bad characters are the ones you don't build or use properly.
Then there aloy
@@caseydemmings6666 tbh Aloy is not that bad
And dehya
@@HALP1234 I have gotten 75k on 6 out of her 10 punches.
@@glench4693 whale
DPS Barbara is unironically a total blast!! Do I have Neuvillette? Yeah. Does hitting 32k with my shittily built Barbara bring me 10x more joy? HELL YEAH!!
Xinyan has been my favourite character since i got her back when i first started playing, she's been my main for years. I refuse to bench her for anyone else. She might not be my main dps anymore, but after getting her c6 and changing her weapon to DEF substat, she works as a shielder/dps when others die, because she isn't nearly as prone to dying as others (defence scaling characters ftw!! Albedo is my second favourite. Wanted him since he came out, got him on his first rerun.). I got her cons from 3 of the 4 lantern rites. She's double crowned, only character i invested crowns in.
Really glad to see Barbara appreciation! I've also kept her on my team since I got her, she used to be a poorly built healer but somebody joked that she was a dps after hitting like 3k. After that, I spent a few weeks building her to be a dps, along with Xianglang and Bennet to support her. I love seeing others also just having fun with characters and builds outside what characters are 'good.'
as someone who has been maining klee since her initial release, ignoring anything anyone had to say about her or her playstyle: i’ve tried other team comps and main dps’s ( hu tao, eula, xiao, to name a few ) but i always come back to my little bomb slinging kiddie . i love her animations and voice lines, just cant part with her as my main quite yet :)
Just a note (doesn't matter if you don't care anyway) but honestly there is a good possibility that your Klee team can work better than at least all the other on-fielders you listed (depending on your investment and skill). Since Furina was released Klee teams (without high skill or investment) are comparable in strength or stronger at the casual investment/skill level than the ones you listed (Hu Tao takes much more skill or higher investment to become significantly higher, Eula generally requires higher investment, and Xiao same (except more of the investment is in getting the right teammates/Faruzan C6).
Particularly for the non-plunge option (so you can still throw bombs) Klee Furina Bennett Kazuha/Xiangling/Zhongli/other non-interfering flex character teams are quite strong while being easy to play (the team is kinda like a reverse of Child ones where Klee is the Childe (pun not intended) applying pyro for Furina, the Xiangling, to vape). The only note is that you probably want Bennett on a healing build to get enough healing to keep up with Furina's drain by over-healing to trigger the team heal from her passive
Klee is much more easy to make strong now than ever before (in recent history idk the initial release days hehe) so damage should never need to be a reason you stop maining her. Also tbh lots of the negative stuff on her (like power wise) and her playstyle were unfounded and came because most people didn't know how to play her or overestimated the importance/difficulty of animation cancels. I only really think the targeting one is truly problematic.
Anyway keep having fun with Klee :>
@@kanoaika thank you !! i’ve done hella research into klee’s kit and would love to run a kleerina team.
i would be saving for furina but with my affinity for all the child model characters (small characters, big damage is one of my favorite tropes ) im saving for sigewinne and nahida 😭
@@superblystars Oh since you were here from the beginning I assumed you already had Nahida lol. Also I totally get you--I spent a pretty long time figuring out dragon-strike on Sayu despite how hard it is with her because it is so cute/hilarious to watch her jump like 3 times her height to plunge.
@@kanoaika i had to take like a year long break from genshin because i didnt have a device to play on-
i started this year right after nahida’s banner ended 🥲
@@superblystars Well good luck then :>. Also I looked at Sigewinne stuff so far (hopefully she gets buffed before the beta ends lol) and I think you could use her reasonably well on the Furina Klee team in the flex team slot. She does very little hydro application (so won't steal from Furina), gives team wide healing (which decreases reliance on swapping and Bennett as a healer), gives hydro resonance (again helps Furina and makes Klee a bit harder to one-shot), and gives a for now sadly not so great buff to skill damage (hopefully that gets better--its not super relevant now).
Overall as it is now, she will not be the best in the team, but pretty good especially for being pretty comfortable with the healing and letting you use 2 of you favorite characters on the same team.
Genuinely the best youtube video I've watched in a long time
As a beidou main there is something soooo satisfying about learning the atk patterns of enemies and punishing them for it with your perfect timing and although she is often overshadowed by fichyl(idk how to spell her name😂) and yae miko she deals actually really juicy dmg in two enemy situations and she’s soooo fun and she was one of my first c6 characters that I grinded to max.
i have Albedo. hes soo sweet and inetresting with his lore. ironically i didnt hate on chiori for "replacing him" or powercreping him, nah. i was happy to pull for a 5 star weapon that worked for him. so ty Chiori, ur weapon works great on my mans XD
i just use the character i like the moment i get it, even at lvl 1, i just farm the four artifact set without caring to much about the stats and using it while slowly lvl it up and ascending it, it may seem like tedious for some ppl but for me its satisfing to see the damage go from 300 to 15k in a matter of days or even hours if i like the character a lot
diona has always been my favorite and the bow class is always represented in my team. (i know a lot of bow haters) i used to run yoimiya, yelan, fischl, diona. with diona, she has a super cute character design and her backstory really resonated with me especially with how my relationship with my dad is lmao.
My favorite character is Gaming. The moment I saw him... I knew I'd enjoy him and I do.
I'm glad i forgot spiral abyss was a thing for a while because it let me genuinly enjoy playing with my stronger or more "meta" characters without the little worm in my ear whispering "bad team comp... youll never get anywhere with 4 geo..."
Bayonetta music playing when Xianyun appeared is just gold
My favorite character is Scaramouche. By FAR. I love his lore, he can fly, and he is beautiful. 10/10 character. best boy. Closely followed by Heizou because he has a fun personality
I switched off my main exploration team (which includes Barbara, not gunna lie) just to check out something on my underleveled Navia and got stuck in an unexpected fight with two Fatui and a mirror maiden. Took 20 minutes. Kept thinking how much I wanted my Barbara team back! So I hear you
Could of just teleported away and if navia's underleveled.. yeah... she's not going to perform her best.
I will spend the rest of my life ob the Chasca hill for the this exact reason - versatility and a multitude of different ways to build and play her if you spend more than just a few moments thinking
people hated kokomi bc they didn't understand how to use her. She's not a healer, she's a tank, hydro on field driver, especially for dendro teams where you will be damaging yourself, adds her own clam set damage, gets interruption resistance, she's THE best on fielder u could pick. People were too used to damage being a single big hit from the big carry and they weren't ready for dendro to shift the meta towards quickswap or a no crit reaction playstyle where every teammate is necessary to get the damage, but neither is actually hitting for anything lol
Ah yes people didn't know she would be great in dendro teams and that clam would do some dmg while those things didn't exist 🤦♂️
@@deadlysound5711 dot teams already existed with electrocharged and she spiked in use way before dendro lol the concept of a driver has existed since forever and people just incorrectly assumed it had to be the dps driving which has never been true. esp when sucrose on field was already a thing people shitting on kokomi had no excuses. great way to out yourself as one of them tho!
@@00Kalypso but the thing is kokomi tazer was way weaker than the sucrose one at the time because furina didn't exist lol.
@@deadlysound5711 it wasn't if your characters were built correctly. If your builds were so ass that you absolutely need viri I guess that's another story but it's a you problem not kokomi problem lol
@@00Kalypso sure buddy sure
Finally to see some love for Barbara.
Ever since I got her, I've always had her in my main team. (Granted she's the healer along with Hu Tao on the team lol) but she's always been reliable and even helps with vape reactions!
Her C6 also had saved me more times than I'd like to mention.
Meta is exactly the reason why I didn’t watch anything before playing the game. Still only stick stuff on in the background while drawing-
I wanna form my own opinions and have fun
Thank you, I needed a casual look at the meta game of Genshin and I feel like I understand it much better now, I might even try my hand at the spiral abyss.
Shout outs to all the Ocean Hued Clam Qiqis out there, turn those 50/50 failures into 50/50 fighters!
the way i was yelling for kuki shinobu to be mentioned and was so VINDICATED when you did, they did my girl DIRTY and she has CARRIED my alhaitham team since he came home, healer mains rise up
Kuki and Chevreuse on my overload team have been an amazing duo. All the heals.
Tf you talking about? Kuki was only ever bad during inazuma. The moment dendro hot the scene she shot up to SS rank.
@@nobody-xh6ii that's when i got her and the "they did my girl dirty" is in reference to the community not hoyoverse themselves, i was delighted when dendro came out and she got the respect she deserved
I mean tbf they didn't really "do her dirty" before dendro bc she was very bad.
I put my yt on autoplay and just happened to stumble across this video, wasn't paying much attention at first but the points you've made really pulled my attention. I totally agree with what you've said and I have always thought about and genuinely love how genshin go with it's character "balancing", it's really nice to see it be recognized and shared in the form of a video.
btw I love your commentary style and editing, keep it up ^^
My favourite characters to play have always been somewhat off-meta. I turned my nose up at any announced cryo DPS for two years because I adored Kaeya, condemned Yoimiya to the level one void of my account because I loved Amber, Albedo was the first character I ever whaled for because I was so attached to him, and poor Tighnari got pulled and then tossed aside because I only cared about Collei. Yet, as much as I loved them, I always had this overwhelming anxiety that my numbers weren’t high enough, enemies weren’t dying fast enough, and to this day, I’ve never 36 starred the Abyss, so I started dropping the characters that didn’t hit high enough. I still wanted to care more about the characters than the meta, so I still never raised Bennet, or Xiangling, or any of the objectively excellent characters whose play styles I just didn’t care for, *but the numbers were just too low.* Then I got Arlecchino and, not only did I adore everything about her, she just melted everything regardless of team, and suddenly that anxiety was melting too. Finally, I had a character that made me feel like I wasn’t falling behind everyone.
I feel like I can now afford to play the characters I love, even if they’re not the “best”. I built up my Lynette and my Chevruese, got a new set for my Layla, even brought Collei out again. It’s cost all that fragile resin I’d been saving up, but I get to bring them into domains now! Refocusing on the characters I just really like has been a huge joy these past couple weeks. I feel very silly about what it took to get here, admittedly, but I’m quite happy in the end.
Seems like a pretty sensible take. Not everyone is into try-hard gaming, though there will be some who say that the entire point of gaming is getting good and eliminating skill issues to prove your talent or dedication or whatever (or getting the highest dps, making big numbers flash across your screen etc.). Obviously there's nothing wrong with that. But there's also nothing wrong with a slightly more chill approach. And there's tons of people who play a mix of the two styles.