If I remember rightly, the customer wanted the original skirting put back. The sink unit door being so low was overlooked by the customer when ordering this item. The only way around that would be to pull it away from the wall (and use an infill), to give clearance for the skirting or fit smaller skirting. Good job so far.
Hi Mark, yep I know how the small problems that crop up can be a pain and time consuming. You can not always anticipate every little potential problem until you offer the units into position, I’ve been involved well over 40 years and still these little problems can crop up. As we always say, it’s how you deal with them that counts, looking forward to seeing the finished job, another great film thank you. Take care, regards Chris. 👍👍👍
I agree - its experience that resolves the problems. Customers see the problem sorted and say 'That was easy' and complain when you charge a minimum fee for 5 minutes work!!
Always putting an isolator valve is a good idea pull the panel up behind the toilet and toilet can be isolated if there is a problem and the rest of the house has water good video again
Toilet gap and panel should be siliconed for hygiene and aesthetic reasons. Therefore, removing the panel to reach the valve is easier said than done. I would have put a small access hatch in the adjacent cupboard to reach the valve.
In my cloak room WC, very much like this one, I used a corner vanity. Missed all the skirting boards and doesn't look as weird as a standard vanity pushed into a corner. 😊
With the corner unit - what about putting a piece of white furniture board that’s the same thickness as the skirting board between the unit and the wall (so it means the whole unit is now pushed away from the wall by thickness of the skirting board. That would make it so that when the door opens it naturally lines up with the skirting board. So in short it brings the unit away from the wall but doesn’t leave a visible gap. Hope that makes sense?
Looking good bud, tiny cloakrooms are a lot of work trying to get everything in nice and neat. As for your iso valve its a requirement on cisterns in water regs. So keep fitting them. 😊
0:00: ⚙️ Progress update on cloakroom build with units being installed while customers are away on holiday. 3:36: ⚙️ Challenges in fitting units together and resolving end Gap issue with help from Dave Bishop. 7:04: ⚙️ Installation process of connecting cold water, cutting out panels, and debating on cutting a flush pipe into position. 11:42: 🚰 Plumber demonstrates filling and testing a tap for water tightness in a plumbing situation. 14:39: 🚽 Plumbing work progress: fixing toilets, preparing basin installation, and carpenter's arrival for unit trimming. Timestamps by Tammy AI
Great job as always. As for the iso valve situation i suppose you could drill a large enough hole on the side unit so you can get to it. Most of the cisterns require access to the flush valve etc, so normally the back panel will haveto come out. Sharp stan,ey does the trick . Cloakrooms are a nightmare tbf.
Yes bud! Valve for defo! Helps with testing as you don’t have to run back outside if it goes sideways, and also as another comment said if you pull up the panel you can turn off that one appliance not the house! Good luck fella!
Just looked at the Jepp cone as recommended by one of your subscribers (You tube ) okay for troublesome leaky flush pipe, but it makes it awkward to push the pan back to the wall. Like you I always connect the flush pipe to the cistern first. There is a use for the Jepp cone but not on a back to the wall pan. What do you think Mark? Great vid mate 👍👍
I always fit iso valves behind the unit . And make the panel easy to lift out , as I’m usually the plumber called back in the future for serving . Plus if you have an iso valve you have more control when testing toilet .
Nice content bud, could you have used a right angled iso and have an access in the cupboard beside it? Mind you considering the additional ballache I’d probably go with your option👍🏻. Small rooms throw up the biggest challenges imo!
R lass always calls me a loser for watching videos of plumbing when i do it all day long 😂 But i love watching your content and seeing the real world plumbing that we all know too well! I always put an iso on the cistern, as you said, you would just use the stop tap anyway, but for example if the cistern was leaking, it gives you an easy place to cap off whilst a new one is sourced. I have trust issues so always give the cisterns a tweak 😂 Ive started doing the samne with the L brackets since watching your videos, works much better 👍
Small toilets - usually under the stairs are often a pain to make things fit. Old pipes, wonky floors etc. Just wondered why you didn't bring the toilet feed pipe with isolator up to the top so it could be used by the householder in an emergency. One bit of plastic pipe and a push fit elbow!! Sod the press fits!! The little gap I'd have told them its ideal for the brush!!
Isolation valves everywhere that’s the rule. You might not think you’ll ever need them, but you will. 😂😂😂 As a plumber that does kitchen and utility fits as well I would have put some kind of fillet in between the cupboard and the wall and put the skirting back on to hide your dodgy wall. Also your cupboards going to have a handle on it probably? So that would help with the amount you can open it. Then put your surface across the whole thing to hide it.
Iso valve as per regs. Especially on side entry ones Always a nightmare these little jobs ain't it, I'd have just put a blanking "panel" on the left side but I'm not a chippie haha
That’s what I said to put in but Dave is a perfectionist so wanted to rip the unit down and have it as a working unit……. Not all hero’s wear capes 😉🙌🏼🙌🏼
Hey Mark. This would’ve been the perfect job for the Jeppcone I mentioned in your other video. Check them out. I’ll never go back to the old flush cones after using them. I was a bit sceptical at first, as they cost a tenner, but it’s a small price to pay. Let me know what you think. You could do a video of one and I’d recommend the wera hex keys to tighten them up. I’m not on commission for the company and only want to share what I think is a great plumbing device.
I’d bring the sink unit along the wall by 150mm, put new skirting board on to cover the gap and use the space between the wall and unit to hang hand towel.
Those cisterns are good until you have to use it on a comfort height pan. Leaves just enough length on the flush pipe that the nut goes round the bend and can be a real pain in the arse. Like you said, pointless having isolators on them as to get to it the pan has to come out anyway! Good video though, alot of effort on the cupboard. Be Modern do 175mm single door units if you ever get stuck! Either that or just use an infill panel 😂
hi mate had a similar prob because my apprentice son works with me i put the iso in the cuboard with a 500 flex bit more work but did the job nice job good shout with the level for the flush pipe got that in my back pocket now
I thought this too. The customer is not always right and plumbers have years of experience to guide them for the better solution even though they may not agree. There are alot of plumbers out there that wouldn't of gone to all this trouble to bury pipes etc so fair play to you.
Very nice little job , you could of put a fillet piece on the wall just to move it out the width of your skirting on your hand basin unit especially when you had a carpenter there 😂 looking nice 👍👍👍👍🍀🪚🪚🪚
Great content again, good to see trades helping each other out. As you have said many times it’s all about getting on with suppliers and others you work with 😊
Local isolation always best I reckon. I know the SC wasn't far away but if you'd had a sudden deluge in the cistern, better to just crank it off there than fall A over T over all your tools, kicking the pan on the way out to shut it off 🤣🤣🤣
Blimey, what a cock-up! Inability to use a tape measure and the lack of forward thinking/planning will always result in these sort of problems. Looking forward to seeing the end result.
And that’s why I’ve shown it mate….. because we are all human and this channel is fully warts and all……. But it’s how you deal with issues like this and over come them that makes you the tradesman you are👍🏼
Thats a proper shit set up ...unit doors not clearing skirts etc ...gone to all that trouble of chopping pipes in obvious choice would of been a nice wall hung unut and basin ..more floor space ....same with toilet wall hung all the way for me ..
Real world Plumbing mate…. Customer didn’t want wall hung in such a small cloakroom, and budget wise wouldn’t have worked… Always a way round stuff….. just showing it as it is mate👍🏼
Could be honest you could just taken it out the door of that basin unit and screw it on the other side , ain’t matter which way the cabinet door opens 😂
Real world plumbing as always on my channel….. so what would you have done behind the toilet on this job??
Valve or no valve??
I love getting really comfortable with a coffee and watch really life struggles and awkward plumbing by you!!! I love it!! Keep it coming
Thanks mate 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
If I remember rightly, the customer wanted the original skirting put back. The sink unit door being so low was overlooked by the customer when ordering this item. The only way around that would be to pull it away from the wall (and use an infill), to give clearance for the skirting or fit smaller skirting. Good job so far.
Would leave a gap at the back of the basin so was not going to work….. skirting is gone
Hi Mark, yep I know how the small problems that crop up can be a pain and time consuming.
You can not always anticipate every little potential problem until you offer the units into position, I’ve been involved well over 40 years and still these little problems can crop up. As we always say, it’s how you deal with them that counts, looking forward to seeing the finished job, another great film thank you.
Take care, regards Chris. 👍👍👍
Exactly that Chris 👍🏼👍🏼
I agree - its experience that resolves the problems. Customers see the problem sorted and say 'That was easy' and complain when you charge a minimum fee for 5 minutes work!!
Always putting an isolator valve is a good idea pull the panel up behind the toilet and toilet can be isolated if there is a problem and the rest of the house has water good video again
Thanks mate 👍🏼👍🏼
Toilet gap and panel should be siliconed for hygiene and aesthetic reasons. Therefore, removing the panel to reach the valve is easier said than done.
I would have put a small access hatch in the adjacent cupboard to reach the valve.
In my cloak room WC, very much like this one, I used a corner vanity. Missed all the skirting boards and doesn't look as weird as a standard vanity pushed into a corner. 😊
Sounds lovely 👍🏼
With the corner unit - what about putting a piece of white furniture board that’s the same thickness as the skirting board between the unit and the wall (so it means the whole unit is now pushed away from the wall by thickness of the skirting board. That would make it so that when the door opens it naturally lines up with the skirting board. So in short it brings the unit away from the wall but doesn’t leave a visible gap. Hope that makes sense?
Yer I get what you mean…. However it would push the basin away from the wall aswell and look a little out of place imho…..
@@MJTiffPlumbing Ah yes, fair enough. Great channel by the way - your content is really interesting and informative - keep up the good work!
Looking good bud, tiny cloakrooms are a lot of work trying to get everything in nice and neat. As for your iso valve its a requirement on cisterns in water regs. So keep fitting them. 😊
Just a complete waste of time being in there as you are using it 🤣🤣
0:00: ⚙️ Progress update on cloakroom build with units being installed while customers are away on holiday.
3:36: ⚙️ Challenges in fitting units together and resolving end Gap issue with help from Dave Bishop.
7:04: ⚙️ Installation process of connecting cold water, cutting out panels, and debating on cutting a flush pipe into position.
11:42: 🚰 Plumber demonstrates filling and testing a tap for water tightness in a plumbing situation.
14:39: 🚽 Plumbing work progress: fixing toilets, preparing basin installation, and carpenter's arrival for unit trimming.
Timestamps by Tammy AI
Thanks
Great job as always. As for the iso valve situation i suppose you could drill a large enough hole on the side unit so you can get to it. Most of the cisterns require access to the flush valve etc, so normally the back panel will haveto come out. Sharp stan,ey does the trick . Cloakrooms are a nightmare tbf.
This one has been a pain for the size of it tbh
Yes bud! Valve for defo! Helps with testing as you don’t have to run back outside if it goes sideways, and also as another comment said if you pull up the panel you can turn off that one appliance not the house! Good luck fella!
Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼
Just looked at the Jepp cone as recommended by one of your subscribers (You tube ) okay for troublesome leaky flush pipe, but it makes it awkward to push the pan back to the wall. Like you I always connect the flush pipe to the cistern first. There is a use for the Jepp cone but not on a back to the wall pan. What do you think Mark? Great vid mate 👍👍
Need to take a look at these
Have to get Dave to show you all his little carpentry tricks for all these little units.
Tricks of the trade
I always fit iso valves behind the unit . And make the panel easy to lift out , as I’m usually the plumber called back in the future for serving . Plus if you have an iso valve you have more control when testing toilet .
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Hi, thanks for ever great contents. I would change the hinges of the vanity unit to other side so that it doesn't stick to the skirting.
Still wouldn’t have worked as the door when shutting would hit the skirting as it was too high….
Skirting had to come off
@@MJTiffPlumbing yes I agree.
I made myself a wooden horseshoe shaped temple, with a centre line. It’s speeded up fitting those fully back pans.
Ohhhh…. I like that idea
Nice content bud, could you have used a right angled iso and have an access in the cupboard beside it? Mind you considering the additional ballache I’d probably go with your option👍🏻. Small rooms throw up the biggest challenges imo!
Don’t they just….. I guess a few other ways could of worked
R lass always calls me a loser for watching videos of plumbing when i do it all day long 😂
But i love watching your content and seeing the real world plumbing that we all know too well!
I always put an iso on the cistern, as you said, you would just use the stop tap anyway, but for example if the cistern was leaking, it gives you an easy place to cap off whilst a new one is sourced.
I have trust issues so always give the cisterns a tweak 😂
Ive started doing the samne with the L brackets since watching your videos, works much better 👍
Thanks Tom… glad you like my content…👌🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Always something to throw a spanner in the works mark ..
Good old Dave to the rescue. 😂😂👍👍
Dave saved the day 🤣🤣
Shout out to the plasterer that’s a nice patching job in an awkward spot 👏
Nige is a legend 👌🏼👌🏼👍🏼
Small toilets - usually under the stairs are often a pain to make things fit. Old pipes, wonky floors etc. Just wondered why you didn't bring the toilet feed pipe with isolator up to the top so it could be used by the householder in an emergency. One bit of plastic pipe and a push fit elbow!! Sod the press fits!! The little gap I'd have told them its ideal for the brush!!
The smaller the job the more hassle it is 🤣🤦🏻♂️
Smallest rooms biggest challenges but sure you will work it out. 👍🏻
Oh tell me about it…..🤦🏻♂️
Isolation valves everywhere that’s the rule. You might not think you’ll ever need them, but you will. 😂😂😂
As a plumber that does kitchen and utility fits as well I would have put some kind of fillet in between the cupboard and the wall and put the skirting back on to hide your dodgy wall. Also your cupboards going to have a handle on it probably? So that would help with the amount you can open it. Then put your surface across the whole thing to hide it.
Wouldn’t have looked great with a gap on the basin….. that’s why I went the extra bit and got it done right👍🏼👍🏼
Great content Mark, you've inspired me to get into plumbing
Wow that’s great Sam……. Love this buddy🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Iso valve as per regs. Especially on side entry ones
Always a nightmare these little jobs ain't it, I'd have just put a blanking "panel" on the left side but I'm not a chippie haha
That’s what I said to put in but Dave is a perfectionist so wanted to rip the unit down and have it as a working unit…….
Not all hero’s wear capes 😉🙌🏼🙌🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbing chippies doing chippie things 🤣👌
I alway get my punters to buy extra plinth , then I make a unit out of the plinth board to fit , open selves . There’s always a way !
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I think a lower skirting board is the only option, or a higher plinth on the sink unit
Or remove the skirting 😉
Hey Mark. This would’ve been the perfect job for the Jeppcone I mentioned in your other video. Check them out. I’ll never go back to the old flush cones after using them. I was a bit sceptical at first, as they cost a tenner, but it’s a small price to pay. Let me know what you think. You could do a video of one and I’d recommend the wera hex keys to tighten them up. I’m not on commission for the company and only want to share what I think is a great plumbing device.
Will have to take a look at them mate 👍🏼👍🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbingI reckon you’ll be intrigued at the very least. I’ll be keeping an eye out on your channel 😉. Best wishes, Marcus.
great content why did the customer not strip the wallpaper off the walls before they went on holiday then it would look complete with painting
I did say about this to them, I said to get the whole room replastered
Love your videos mate! Any advice for someone starting out? Getting NVQ this year!
Thanks buddy….
Just take in as much info as you can….. and look after your knees😉
I’d bring the sink unit along the wall by 150mm, put new skirting board on to cover the gap and use the space between the wall and unit to hang hand towel.
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Those cisterns are good until you have to use it on a comfort height pan. Leaves just enough length on the flush pipe that the nut goes round the bend and can be a real pain in the arse. Like you said, pointless having isolators on them as to get to it the pan has to come out anyway! Good video though, alot of effort on the cupboard. Be Modern do 175mm single door units if you ever get stuck! Either that or just use an infill panel 😂
Yep I know what you mean with that depth of the cistern 👍🏼👍🏼
Are you doing a Part 2 to show the finished cloakroom ?
Will be coming on Sunday buddy 👍🏼👍🏼
hi mate had a similar prob because my apprentice son works with me i put the iso in the cuboard with a 500 flex bit more work but did the job nice job good shout with the level for the flush pipe got that in my back pocket now
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Installation is clear and concise - got one of them toilets to install - perfect instructions
Thanks mate 👍🏼👍🏼
Single screw and some super glue/mitre bond? Good stuff tackling this job myself in a bit
Just a right pain for such a small little job
Why not turn the sink unit 90degrees so the door can open?
Because the customer wanted it this way….. turning it would make it right in the way of the toilet…..
I thought this too. The customer is not always right and plumbers have years of experience to guide them for the better solution even though they may not agree. There are alot of plumbers out there that wouldn't of gone to all this trouble to bury pipes etc so fair play to you.
Very nice little job , you could of put a fillet piece on the wall just to move it out the width of your skirting on your hand basin unit especially when you had a carpenter there 😂 looking nice 👍👍👍👍🍀🪚🪚🪚
Wouldn’t have looked very good imho with the basin off the wall..
@@MJTiffPlumbing thought there was a reason ,👍👍
Great content again, good to see trades helping each other out. As you have said many times it’s all about getting on with suppliers and others you work with 😊
100% mate…… work together👌🏼👌🏼
When a customer leaves me the keys i usually set the alarm off
Hahahahha brilliant
Local isolation always best I reckon. I know the SC wasn't far away but if you'd had a sudden deluge in the cistern, better to just crank it off there than fall A over T over all your tools, kicking the pan on the way out to shut it off 🤣🤣🤣
Very true 🤣🤣
Blimey, what a cock-up! Inability to use a tape measure and the lack of forward thinking/planning will always result in these sort of problems.
Looking forward to seeing the end result.
And that’s why I’ve shown it mate….. because we are all human and this channel is fully warts and all…….
But it’s how you deal with issues like this and over come them that makes you the tradesman you are👍🏼
Thats a proper shit set up ...unit doors not clearing skirts etc ...gone to all that trouble of chopping pipes in obvious choice would of been a nice wall hung unut and basin ..more floor space ....same with toilet wall hung all the way for me ..
Real world Plumbing mate…. Customer didn’t want wall hung in such a small cloakroom, and budget wise wouldn’t have worked…
Always a way round stuff….. just showing it as it is mate👍🏼
Anyone else watch these vids and think ffs that's it that's how lol
Hhaaaa
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Evening mate….. hope your well 👍🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbing Getting stronger every day Buddy thank you 🤘😎🤘Great content as always 👍
Looks more room than that. Unlucky.
@riptiz eh????
@@MJTiffPlumbing unlucky that there wasn’t more room to turn it.
Could be honest you could just taken it out the door of that basin unit and screw it on the other side , ain’t matter which way the cabinet door opens 😂
Wouldn’t have got it back to the wall though mate….. skirting was too high
No how a would do it but doesn't mean it's wrong.
Yep we all have our ways 👍🏼👍🏼
Для чего такие сложности?
Подвесной унитаз на раме, быстрее и надёжнее.
Not when they don’t want one 👍🏼
Why wouldn’t run the skirting along the wall and scribe in a filler piece.
Because the door wouldn’t open….. as said in the video👍🏼👍🏼
Have done, not of done.
Aarrrr….. bless
The most toxic community’s on the internet; plumbing and Taylor Swift 😂
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Jobs getting done arse backwards get that horrible blown vinyl off first .re skim ppaint before you do youre stuff
The customer wanted it doing like this buddy…..
What's going over the bare patches on the wall? I don't understand why the customer pays for a refit and ignores the old tired wallpaper 🫣
I addressed this to the customer and they said there decorator is doing it after I’m done 🤷🏼♂️