@@Klaus93845983495Call gg. :) Seriously, goths are one of the best civs in aoe2. If you allow them to go to imperial with all upgrades and full boom with tons of farms, they can make indifenite spam of husks against archers and cheap infantry against other units. Although any mele unit (champions, or unic mele if you have one) is best choice. And husars raids to the goths economy because they dont have stone walls and their army is very slow. But best of all - CATAPHRACTS!!! :)
Pre-internet time was the best time for casuals playing within their friend circle. It feels great to figuring something new and suddenly dominate your friends for a while until everyone start doing the same and the race to find new strategy begins anew. I kinda miss those days.
goth or not doing that shoot and run technique means he deserves all of his woes. the old AI used to absuse this and i've always fucking hated the game for that when i was a kid.
@@Lapantouflemagic0 you cant expect ranged to be at an equal in close combat. their hp and armor is low, they are meant to be kept at a distance at all times. mixing them up with pikemen makes for a near perfect team, keeps them safe from cavalry attacks. if you want to counter archer ai you should use skirmishers, their sole purpose is to be anti archers. they have a damage bonus towards archers and a base high damage mitigation against ranged attacks. for elite skirmishers its higher than the paladins. a formation full of skirmishers would counter the near perfect archer and pikeman team its funny that even the arbalest(er), the last upgrade for archers tree, appears to be wearing full heavy armor. but their attack and ranged migitation is still at 0, and their hp is 40, only 10 points higher than the archer. so no matter how it appears, you really dont want these guys to invite the enemy into a close combat duel. hit and run is the only way, or having a wall of infantry or cavalry to hide behind
@@Littlevampiregirl100 exactly, and why wasn’t the player spreading out his archers? Also the key is to have a constant inflow of new archers being made and sent directly to the battle zone. Last thing, since I’m not as familiar with whatever iteration of AOE2 this is (I only have the original version and conquerors edition), britons are the kind of archers you want - longbowmen
That's the kind of friend that would push you into a horde of zombies to buy more time for himself/herself to escape. I don't have time for those sorts of people.
except if u play as lakota, u can place city center everywhere as long its not enemy territory, u can squeeze out your opponent border so hard that they might lose coz they had nowhere to build city center
1. tower rush was nerfed when watch tower hp down from 1020 to 700 in feudal. 2. goths need to be rushed before they can build a castle since they can't make huskarls before building a castle, otherwise you have to focus on defending yourself until you get to imperial age and champions and paladins to deal with them possibly... 3. villagers for inca require castle age to be able to get blacksmith upgrades removing this kind of rush. 4. fortress kind of maps need their rms file updated to include corners.
One of the most terrifying aspects of late game Goths is just how few 'normal' comps stack up to them. Play archer, meet Huskarl. Switch to cavalry, entire legions of halberds show up. Switch to infantry, and now you're fight inf v. inf against one of the prime infantry civs. Either be a real infantry civ to match them or hope gunpowder works.
@@Hellblazer1o2 seriously? They can come in time? Last time I checked, they are the slowest unit of the game, so, I'm not sure they can destroy the ennemy trebs before your castle being destroyed...
Pulling off my first successful goth DRush into man at arms was a real coming of age moment. I tried the Korean tower rush while it was still feasible and never got it to work right
The tower hop on 100% legit. They build a siege tower, one of the points was to mount the wall. With your own stairwells and all its super easy barley an inconvenience.
I mean, huskarls were literally made to hard counter archers. That's like getting mad that someone made skirmishers because you sent an army of archers at him.
0:10 but it feels great when you learned how to counter a tower rush:) 1:20 that is not really annoying-just game design. 2:00 your video is one year old. However, I am pretty sure that Incas got nerved-back then you forgot Persian douche:D but I love your background music
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I remember from the first AOE the tower rush nonsense. There are a few things like that that destroy the idea of each faction fighting it out, these 'video game' tactics are best left out for multiplayer there should be an option to not allow players to do this, in essence, hacking of a very good game.
Disagree! If viable strategies only involved building up and 'fighting it out' you would make the game be much more of a coinflip for civ matchup than a skill exchange. These crazy all in strats make it interesting and make unexpected plays possible, hence increasing variability of the game.
More strategies = more fun. Less strategies = less fun. Besides you can host a custom game with a longer treaty to stop early aggression. The game already has you covered.
I’m not very knowledgeable about this game, I only started playing it properly a few days back. But why would you leave the corner empty like that at 2:57? It feels like that tower thing could have been easily avoided
its auto generated wall on one of map styles. Kinda forgot the name, i think it was "fortress" but not sure. It would be possible to quickly build something in that place but in dark and feudal age time and villager focusing on rescources is essential
There other ways to do the tower hop, but really i never understood why they had the walls like that on arena, i mean why that corner with 1 les wall? Lol
Korean are not that good of a tower civ anymore. Goth enemies, Castle age tower rushes are not a trouble for me cuz I play as Teutons. Incan villager rush? Spanish laughing in Supermacy
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Inaccurate. Real Goths would keep sending more and more Huskarls continuously until the map gets filled up with Huskarls.
😂
Almost 600 likes and 1 comment? Weird asf
Imagine 500 population limit.
Ok if they pick goths and you go all in crossbows you have no idea what Goths are and deserve to lose.
Hey dude, what would be a better choice? Thanks ✌🏻
@@Klaus93845983495 go for melee units (cavalry and infatry)
@@Klaus93845983495 Anything but Crossbows
@@Klaus93845983495Call gg. :) Seriously, goths are one of the best civs in aoe2. If you allow them to go to imperial with all upgrades and full boom with tons of farms, they can make indifenite spam of husks against archers and cheap infantry against other units. Although any mele unit (champions, or unic mele if you have one) is best choice. And husars raids to the goths economy because they dont have stone walls and their army is very slow. But best of all - CATAPHRACTS!!! :)
@@Klaus93845983495 spam scout in early or spam archer coz goth early is not good
Playing this with friends in 1999 was really fun because there was a lot of trial and error, and a strategic breakthrough was so satisfying
Pre-internet time was the best time for casuals playing within their friend circle. It feels great to figuring something new and suddenly dominate your friends for a while until everyone start doing the same and the race to find new strategy begins anew. I kinda miss those days.
If you go archer against Goths you probably had it coming
goth or not doing that shoot and run technique means he deserves all of his woes. the old AI used to absuse this and i've always fucking hated the game for that when i was a kid.
@@Lapantouflemagic0 You must absolutely hate the Huns, Mongols, Cumans, Tatars and Turks then
@@Lapantouflemagic0 you cant expect ranged to be at an equal in close combat. their hp and armor is low, they are meant to be kept at a distance at all times. mixing them up with pikemen makes for a near perfect team, keeps them safe from cavalry attacks. if you want to counter archer ai you should use skirmishers, their sole purpose is to be anti archers. they have a damage bonus towards archers and a base high damage mitigation against ranged attacks. for elite skirmishers its higher than the paladins. a formation full of skirmishers would counter the near perfect archer and pikeman team
its funny that even the arbalest(er), the last upgrade for archers tree, appears to be wearing full heavy armor. but their attack and ranged migitation is still at 0, and their hp is 40, only 10 points higher than the archer. so no matter how it appears, you really dont want these guys to invite the enemy into a close combat duel. hit and run is the only way, or having a wall of infantry or cavalry to hide behind
If you have 20 archers and goths no castle u won :D
@@Littlevampiregirl100 exactly, and why wasn’t the player spreading out his archers? Also the key is to have a constant inflow of new archers being made and sent directly to the battle zone. Last thing, since I’m not as familiar with whatever iteration of AOE2 this is (I only have the original version and conquerors edition), britons are the kind of archers you want - longbowmen
incas don't get upgrades in feudal anymore, tower hop is gone and crossbows vs goths is mega noob move xD
tower hop as shown in the video is not gone though
@@__________________________---_ i've never seen 2 gates like this in DE yet, i think it was edited in the scenario editor
@@ADCFproductions its pretty normal to see 2 gates like that
@@sono156 nope it was fixed a long time ago in DE
@@sono156 this is incorrect, gates were patched in DE (from day 1)not to spawn in the corners, making tower hopping effectively impossible on arena
My friend and I played a team game, didn't tell me you could switch teams mid game and destroyed my village when I went to attack the enemy
clearly a great friend there.
@@CallofDutyBlackOps28 only the best of friends do that
Only if lock teams is not enabled
@@wiscothrills1409 Yes, but after he does it he's no longer your best friend...LOL
That's the kind of friend that would push you into a horde of zombies to buy more time for himself/herself to escape.
I don't have time for those sorts of people.
It must be so humiliating to be destroyed by villagers.
😂
I always felt like Rise of Nations fixed a lot of the tower rush strategies by forcing you to build within your borders/near a city center
except if u play as lakota, u can place city center everywhere as long its not enemy territory, u can squeeze out your opponent border so hard that they might lose coz they had nowhere to build city center
In DE Rip Inca vill rush and tower hop was rip a long time ago too
Yes
1. tower rush was nerfed when watch tower hp down from 1020 to 700 in feudal.
2. goths need to be rushed before they can build a castle since they can't make huskarls before building a castle, otherwise you have to focus on defending yourself until you get to imperial age and champions and paladins to deal with them possibly...
3. villagers for inca require castle age to be able to get blacksmith upgrades removing this kind of rush.
4. fortress kind of maps need their rms file updated to include corners.
One of the most terrifying aspects of late game Goths is just how few 'normal' comps stack up to them. Play archer, meet Huskarl. Switch to cavalry, entire legions of halberds show up. Switch to infantry, and now you're fight inf v. inf against one of the prime infantry civs. Either be a real infantry civ to match them or hope gunpowder works.
@@BlueShellshock or be the Byzantines and ise cataphract
you must be fun at parties, snowflake
you need walls and monks and get huskarls to your side
Huskarls has to be the easiest one to fend off - just make 4 knights and youre good
Or just get enough Archer XD
@@richardjulien1329 huskarls are counter against projectiles that's why using melee against them is better
@@stormtrooper9894 I know ^^ personally I use either cavalry or bombards against them :)
@@richardjulien1329 Teutonic Knights
@@Hellblazer1o2 seriously? They can come in time? Last time I checked, they are the slowest unit of the game, so, I'm not sure they can destroy the ennemy trebs before your castle being destroyed...
I once sent my villagers to die and ended up destroying a castle
OMG
Pulling off my first successful goth DRush into man at arms was a real coming of age moment. I tried the Korean tower rush while it was still feasible and never got it to work right
The tower hop on 100% legit. They build a siege tower, one of the points was to mount the wall. With your own stairwells and all its super easy barley an inconvenience.
Exactly, I wonder why no one ever uses this
😂 😂 😂 😂 Super easy barely an inconvenience! Well we know where that's coming from
Alright George Ryan.
@@WhoThisMonkey getting pop culture references is tight.
@@ninafeifel3384 wow wow wow.... wow so you've got a like for me?
Thanks for reminding me about why I hate playing PVP in RTS
1:40, ah yes the Bulgarian crossbowman
I just use U.S. Marines in every battle, along with the Unanimous Congressional Declaration of War technology, and I'm undefeated.
3:10 Metal Gear Solid!
2:52 Damn i had that music too
I still remember how I filled entire enemy area with Huskarls. I had like 30 villagers and 170 Huskarls xD
I grew up on Age of Empires Rise of Rome. I never realized most people played Age of Empires II.
For me castle drop on Arena is annoying. Happens in every team game.
Holy god I love those songs
2:55 just look at that gap between two gates. Humans could easily go through it in real life. Let alone tower hop.
I mean, huskarls were literally made to hard counter archers. That's like getting mad that someone made skirmishers because you sent an army of archers at him.
nice video bro new sub
1:07 Teutons: Pathetic
Love the music!
0:10 but it feels great when you learned how to counter a tower rush:)
1:20 that is not really annoying-just game design.
2:00 your video is one year old. However, I am pretty sure that Incas got nerved-back then
you forgot Persian douche:D
but I love your background music
I mean that 4th one a person should have seen coming! They built a tower next to a wall you know hahahahhahaha thats hilarious
I love how a lot of games has its "fallout power armor glitch" equivalent
scale is something that AOE series ignore completely, this train is shorter than a horse
I started this up again on Xbox 😊
Recap of parts 1-4
Part1:
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Part2:
ruclips.net/video/5IaJFsebt2I/видео.html
Part3:
ruclips.net/video/gj1IIsj-KtM/видео.html
Part4:
ruclips.net/video/ZU1lBmsJKjk/видео.html
the 1st strategy is true for me , lol
I remember from the first AOE the tower rush nonsense. There are a few things like that that destroy the idea of each faction fighting it out, these 'video game' tactics are best left out for multiplayer there should be an option to not allow players to do this, in essence, hacking of a very good game.
Disagree! If viable strategies only involved building up and 'fighting it out' you would make the game be much more of a coinflip for civ matchup than a skill exchange. These crazy all in strats make it interesting and make unexpected plays possible, hence increasing variability of the game.
@@niknik0815 Disagree!
More strategies = more fun. Less strategies = less fun.
Besides you can host a custom game with a longer treaty to stop early aggression. The game already has you covered.
@@mattutter3525 Good point, in an MP game set out the rules for all early on.
these strategies I feel that The Spiffing Brit would use tho they are so overpowered and that's why they're annoying and perfectly balanced
How did I miss this?? Well, RUclips FTW.
Old but gold
They removed the tower jump over walls
Last one who builds a wall like that
Amazing...🤩🤩🤩
I’ve done the tower part, I was calling it, nuclear strike 😅
murder holes is the perfect name, lol
For me scout rushing is the most irritating one because it is so common
is this the most annoying strat for 400 elo?
I am so into Tower Rush strategy.
I only remember using towers in a semi-offensive strategy if the situation had my faction with a good reserve of stone resources.
Koreans building towers >
*Starcraft forward bunkers flashback*
I know strategies more annoying than that, those are very simple to defend
Bulgarians have No crossbow
Now I know what to do
Let's not forget byzantine canon towers.
I’m not very knowledgeable about this game, I only started playing it properly a few days back. But why would you leave the corner empty like that at 2:57? It feels like that tower thing could have been easily avoided
its auto generated wall on one of map styles. Kinda forgot the name, i think it was "fortress" but not sure. It would be possible to quickly build something in that place but in dark and feudal age time and villager focusing on rescources is essential
@@JacobG4lant ARENA.
@@martinhorvath4117 yea, that one
Lol, i dont know until now about tower hop 🤣
1:09 Crossbowmen with Bulgarians? Seems like an annoying strat... If they had anything after archers.
Tower Hop no longer works.
Huskarls from barracks
Incas tower hop 😱😱😱
Huskarl rush can be counter hard by scout rush...
how does villager rush work if garrisoning inside town center is a safe defensive strategy till castle age?
why am I seeing this in 2021
Because it was posted in 2021
Hail! I love the gothic strategy. Huskarls infinite!
Tower hopping is fun.
Murder Hole 0:54
Tower hop strategy xD
Hilarious
just yes.
Tower rush is a nightmare only when you have big trees activated :D You cant click vills to go destroy it :D
Is there one for aoe3 lol?
No honour winning with towers
Whats the background song in 2.huskarls
which version of this ? definitive edition ?
What version of aoe2 do you have??
I haven't played this game in a couple of years. Did they nerf Persian Town Centers? I was expecting the Persian Douche strategy to make it here.
epic
What version of the game is that? Definitive Edition?
So that last tower- was it a siege tower? ;)
1:10 That's why you need archers on horses!
U don't need archers at all vs goths lol
@@justaguywhhahs1412 I was referring to the fact that with horses those archers would have survived the infantry attack.
I've seen worse tower strategy. The great wall of tower at the only entrance to the enemy base.
Conversions using priests work well too
Rushing and hop is just so nooby...I also hate all of it
Is the tower hop still a thing??
3:09 what's the bet that they were Koreans too
There other ways to do the tower hop, but really i never understood why they had the walls like that on arena, i mean why that corner with 1 les wall? Lol
I make walls to keep my troops inside my base
They always follow enemy troops until large chunk of my army executes an unplanned attack on enemy base
Welp, I hardly play this game, only know much of it from SoTL. 😂
Simply try to wall your enemies resources asap and go for castle age rush and your knights will do the rest!!!!!!!!!!
what is the first map´?
You don't just use archer type against Goths. NEVER.
Korean are not that good of a tower civ anymore.
Goth enemies, Castle age tower rushes are not a trouble for me cuz I play as Teutons.
Incan villager rush? Spanish laughing in Supermacy
You play AOE2DE too?
@@harshafartale5775 yes Indeed I do
@@Avinash_Lincoln Wanna play?...I never played with an Indian..Because I'm Indian tll
Lol koreans are still same. :D Just towers were nerfedby tiny little bit and people use small trees mod so you can deal with towers...
@@harshafartale5775 sorry for the late reply but sure, why not?
Wes ono kitab astral tapi jek tetep mikir hal tidak masuk akal sing rak penyebab iso di jelaske kan lucu.
They need to bring back gate corners!
#5 corvette
Kill huskarls with your Knights Cavalry
number 1 is town center rush not tower rush
1:40 wtf bulgarians dont get crossbows
Wall hop don'nt work. They fixed this bag more then year ago.
That’s what you get for making illegal Bulgarian crossbow men
Game name please😮
Mosok prw opo terkait pemerintah memiliki pohkar hal similar iki di gawe argumentasi jelas kekonyolan memimpin rakyat
Replace Huskarls with Persian TC drop.
The longbows of the Britons with Greek fire can be quite a force to be reckoned with.
This game is AOE 2 De ?