Chopping with long pips is really not that difficult. Chopping with non inverted rubber is another story because a heavy topspin will bite into the non inverted rubber. That's why it is rare to see choppers who consistently chops on non inverted like joo se hyuk, most of the choppers i see nowadays lobs the ball on their forehand when far away from the table.
@@harveynorman8787 It's true that long pips are made especially for chopping... but I can't agree on that they make chopping on this level "not that difficult".... because it is...! Long pips makes it a little easier... but there's no magic involved.
@@harveynorman8787yeah i agree its way more difficult to use non inverted but once u master it its can be super deadly because u can control the amount of spin and i think thats why joo is the best chopper in the world
@@Ya-cat1111 Jo WAS the best chopper inte the world, but no more. I think Jo has a shortcoming in his game that makes it harder and harder for him to keep up. He's way to defensive compared to todays choppers. A successful chopper today must attack om every ball the opponent hesitates on. That's why we tend to call them "combiplayers" instead of "choppers" nowadays. I know Jo has these necessary offensive skills, but he doesn't use them as often as he should... far from.
@@TTSmashCity I agree.... and a special thanks for the absence of music, (wich some people think is obligatory these days....) If it's music I want.... I use Spotify or sing a song myself.😅But this is table tennis... serious business, no music required😁🤣😂
Very spectacular chopping! Those balls should be very hard to counterloop, but Dima even can do this. Still, I am curious about chopping with this quality (both equipment, and technique advices)
Ovtchorov's whole game is amazing but his backhand is ridiculous. So much power. It makes sense...his Dad was on Soviet team and was coached by Boris Shafir. Boris LOVES big backhands and focuses on it. He coached Mazunov. Ridiculous backhand from 80s and 90s.
Yes please, also some tips for switching to attack for choppers would be great. I like how Ruwen attacks far often than other choppers, I believe that's the way forward for choppers with the new ball.
@@Evilelf2407 I see what you mean but our foundation is not about creating material to getting most views, so even if some of the videos might “just” reach or be helpful/appreciated by fewer people, we’re still happy to do that :)
Dimitrij can I ask you something:did your shoulder sometimes hurt during your powerful low backhand serve?Is it ok if that happens?Because your serve is so powerful and needs energy.
Has Filus never played with any other rubber than Feint long 3...? I mean Feint long is an old rubber, it must have existed in 25 years or more... and there are rubbers today that gives more disturbing effects than Feint long does. I think it could be worth a try, especially since the new plastic ball changed the game quite a bit.
1. Dima is pressing the ball on all possible places to check if it is hard everywhere. If there is a place on the ball that the thumb would go slightly in to the ball that means the ball is soft on that place. It needs to be hard all around. 2. If the ball is hard all around than he put the ball on the table and spins it on different positions. If the ball spins smoothly = the ball is round. If the ball is shaking on the spin = not round. Hope this information can help :)
Usually European players tend to hit a more reliable topspin style, whereas Asian players are more focused on increasing their maximal pace and spin. If we compare their training methods, it becomes obvious that Chinese players usually have more intensity in their training programs. They often rely on shadow training in order to boost the muscle memory of junior players from the next generation. From my personal experience I feel like Chinese players have more power in their game, but tend to struggle with consistency. European coaches think of consistency as the main source of winning points. A good example for this is the forehand training. In China it is completely typical for a player to swing a forehand as hard as possible until he manages to get it constantly on the table. In Europe coaches would start to tell the student to reduce the pace, but in China you just wait until the student manages to become consistent with his previous pace. Consequently it takes longer until you „master“ the Chinese way of playing table tennis. But if you have solid strokes according to the Chinese technique you are usually able to beat players around 1700 TTR points...
He was just cheating a little bit. I’m glad you said something. Guys at my club will change rackets in the middle of a match and do other things, because it’s not a tournament.
That training is very taxing. Hitting topspin against defensive player.. I'm sweating just watching.. I know because I have done that kind of training.
Hi Denzil, we are happy to hear that you love Dima 🏓 Since the youngest age Dimas dad told him to daily train on breathing out very strongly when he hit the ball - to get more power in the strokes. That breathing out became stronger and stronger over the years making the sounds - but it is also what is giving the extra 20% of power. Personally (Jenny, Dimas wife writing) I lived in Japan in a table tennis center in my youth and they told me to do the exact same thing. Same as SO MANY of the powerful tennis player, they are also sounding when they are playing, do you find them embarrassing to?.. Hope that when you have this information you can think differently about it :)
@@TTSmashCity Nick Denny, hi ! With all my respect, have you ever tried (I mean just tried) to hit the ball that fast-powerful-devastating-infernally ? I mean, we’ not pros (sadly) but when you try to loop-kill the ball, IMHO, screaming helps you to get energy, but also to have a “tempo” of your stroke. Try it ! It will be fun ! It’s like recharge after draining all the power, and you can go again and again and again (in my case just 6 or 7 “again” 😂). Congrats for the channel and a big thanks to both of you for filming and posting theses videos. 🏓🤩
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I love the way who dima plays table tennis. Great performance, very powerful and fantastic serves!
Ruwen plays also great.
Thanks for sharing!
Ko ki
unreal; how does that defensive guy consistently cut those back like that...such control!..awesome!! :)
Chopping with long pips is really not that difficult. Chopping with non inverted rubber is another story because a heavy topspin will bite into the non inverted rubber. That's why it is rare to see choppers who consistently chops on non inverted like joo se hyuk, most of the choppers i see nowadays lobs the ball on their forehand when far away from the table.
@@harveynorman8787 It's true that long pips are made especially for chopping... but I can't agree on that they make chopping on this level "not that difficult".... because it is...! Long pips makes it a little easier... but there's no magic involved.
@@harveynorman8787yeah i agree its way more difficult to use non inverted but once u master it its can be super deadly because u can control the amount of spin and i think thats why joo is the best chopper in the world
@@Ya-cat1111 Jo WAS the best chopper inte the world, but no more. I think Jo has a shortcoming in his game that makes it harder and harder for him to keep up. He's way to defensive compared to todays choppers. A successful chopper today must attack om every ball the opponent hesitates on. That's why we tend to call them "combiplayers" instead of "choppers" nowadays. I know Jo has these necessary offensive skills, but he doesn't use them as often as he should... far from.
Much improvement to your first videos :) Love the 60 fps and no music. Thanks for your work
Thanks a lot for your feedback :) 👍
@@TTSmashCity I agree.... and a special thanks for the absence of music, (wich some people think is obligatory these days....) If it's music I want.... I use Spotify or sing a song myself.😅But this is table tennis... serious business, no music required😁🤣😂
0:50 dima sent it out of the universe...
Spin was so intense, my laptop fell off the table!
😁🙌
@@TTSmashCity Gl tonite!🤞🤞🏓🏓
Great video! More of this would be awesome💪 A big plus with the angle
the most beautiful game in table tennis. chop vs topspin. a treat to the eyes
Wirklich richtig gute Videos, mach weiter so.👍🏻💪🏻❤️
Was für Bomben, Dima!! Absolut geil 🤩
Good video for seeing what looping against chop should look like.
His chops are so satisfying 😍
They are really strong 😎😎
Very spectacular chopping! Those balls should be very hard to counterloop, but Dima even can do this. Still, I am curious about chopping with this quality (both equipment, and technique advices)
Great video - greetings from Vienna 🏓
Und ich dachte unser Balleimer wäre schon groß ^^ aber nein, die Profis haben einfach ne Ballkiste!
Cooles und Video und super Kanal weiter so 😃👍🏓
Incredible topspin and power spin! I would be want to learn it!
Very nice training
Looking out for your blade Dima! Could you inform whats the different and why you choose ALC than ZLC like Patrick's?
Ovtcharov is a beast!
Please share some more videos of dima and filus training
Really interesting
good vidéo without sound
wahnsinn...klasse
Lets go dima!
Нравится как кричит Дмитрий Овчаров как вкладывается в каждое движение при топспине справа
amazing
Great video Dima! Would you be ok with me using about 30 seconds of this video for my upcoming video about best table tennis defenders? :)
If possible can you shoot from more rear?We can appreciate the complexity of movements more.Thanks
Nice
The best
これだけラリーが続くのは流石ですね。
Good
Ovtchorov's whole game is amazing but his backhand is ridiculous. So much power. It makes sense...his Dad was on Soviet team and was coached by Boris Shafir. Boris LOVES big backhands and focuses on it. He coached Mazunov. Ridiculous backhand from 80s and 90s.
Niceee
GOOD
nice game
The defender twiddles his racket so fast after he serves.😮
like it
Have Ruwen give chopping tips/advice! Not a lot of information out there for choppers!
Thanks for your feedback, that's true, we'll look into doing a video with chopping advices!
Choppers are a dying breed because of the new balls.
Yes please, also some tips for switching to attack for choppers would be great. I like how Ruwen attacks far often than other choppers, I believe that's the way forward for choppers with the new ball.
seems like a waste of time. I think the view count would be very low. Probably not worth it.
@@Evilelf2407 I see what you mean but our foundation is not about creating material to getting most views, so even if some of the videos might “just” reach or be helpful/appreciated by fewer people, we’re still happy to do that :)
👍👍👍
I just came back here to see how to train as an Olympic medallist ❤️🏓
Dimitrij can I ask you something:did your shoulder sometimes hurt during your powerful low backhand serve?Is it ok if that happens?Because your serve is so powerful and needs energy.
Best serve I think ma long
Какими шипами играл защитник и на каком основании?
Why wouldn’t you twiddle and chop with your inverted when he soft loops to your backhand ?
Axe style its very tough
The guy making all the noise has a pretty good loop😎😎😎😎
The German Harimoto🔥😂
the height of table should be elevate to fit Euro players height
Dima scream like Sharapova ))
Ну разве что тембр пониже
Chop is life! Go long pips!
Does the yellow guy use short pip blade?
😮
what's up with the beard dima?? 😯
Bitte noch etwas lauter schreien, danke
Kournikova style=)))
Has Filus never played with any other rubber than Feint long 3...? I mean Feint long is an old rubber, it must have existed in 25 years or more... and there are rubbers today that gives more disturbing effects than Feint long does. I think it could be worth a try, especially since the new plastic ball changed the game quite a bit.
I thought Dima was using 09c on both sides? Why did he twiddle to his backhand rubber to smash higher balls? Perhaps muscle memory.
Dima playes 09c on FH and 05 on BH. He prefer to smash high balls with 05, that’s why he turn the racket around sometimes.
Okk
Hmm I thought he said he's using dignics 09c on both sides, so why would he switch to the red side on smashes?
Dima plays dignics 09c on forehand and dignics5 on backhand. He prefer the dignics5 for smashing high balls, that’s why he switch.
@@TTSmashCity I was hinting on that... He's probably not using 09c on both. I wonder why, after he praised it for so long.
@@elias3026 he is praising both Dignics09c and Dignics05 :) 👍👍
@@TTSmashCity what was dimas opponent using here i mean rubber on both side and blade?
Тот что в синей футболке,чуть не родил, так стонал
How do you check the ball it's round and okay? Because not a lot of people know where I live.
1. Dima is pressing the ball on all possible places to check if it is hard everywhere. If there is a place on the ball that the thumb would go slightly in to the ball that means the ball is soft on that place. It needs to be hard all around. 2. If the ball is hard all around than he put the ball on the table and spins it on different positions. If the ball spins smoothly = the ball is round. If the ball is shaking on the spin = not round. Hope this information can help :)
@@TTSmashCity Do plastic balls bent inside if it was played for long time? I noticed that their bounce decreases after long use.
Удары супер, но эти стоны...
OH ahhh oh hu ah uh aha oh hya ohua oh huu aha
🏓🏓🏓🏓🔥🔥🔥💯💥💥💪💪👍👍👍
Дима не стони!
По мне так главное чтобы не орал, как Харимото
Da in der einen Situation hätte er etwas fester zuhauen sollen.
I saw the bigest different between westhern training and chinese training.
and what is that?
Usually European players tend to hit a more reliable topspin style, whereas Asian players are more focused on increasing their maximal pace and spin.
If we compare their training methods, it becomes obvious that Chinese players usually have more intensity in their training programs. They often rely on shadow training in order to boost the muscle memory of junior players from the next generation. From my personal experience I feel like Chinese players have more power in their game, but tend to struggle with consistency.
European coaches think of consistency as the main source of winning points. A good example for this is the forehand training. In China it is completely typical for a player to swing a forehand as hard as possible until he manages to get it constantly on the table. In Europe coaches would start to tell the student to reduce the pace, but in China you just wait until the student manages to become consistent with his previous pace.
Consequently it takes longer until you „master“ the Chinese way of playing table tennis. But if you have solid strokes according to the Chinese technique you are usually able to beat players around 1700 TTR points...
@@maximilianschulz4534 that's the most of points. Thanks for your detail.
No short drops with two and more rebounds. Bad, Dima )) Ask your father, who likely remembers this old trick. ))
In the end, it’s always the attack player who wins
Unless it is that Korean player. Here the defense player never attack when the opportunity presents itself unlike the Korean player.
@@girish325 Joo See Hyuk
🌎🇪🇨😃👍👍👍
I muted the sound 10 seconds into the video...
Если ты делаешь тяжело, то плохо
I thought he were Macron
Is it really necessary to give birth each time you hit the ball ? Very ennerving. Why not place this energy on the racket ?
I hate defensive players because I had never won against them
וואלה אני מישראל מה איתכם?
Last point left hand is on the table
Please change to a female attacker ;-)
He was just cheating a little bit. I’m glad you said something. Guys at my club will change rackets in the middle of a match and do other things, because it’s not a tournament.
That training is very taxing. Hitting topspin against defensive player.. I'm sweating just watching.. I know because I have done that kind of training.
Absolutely love Dima but sorry, the noise is just embarrassing and completely unnecessary :(
Hi Denzil, we are happy to hear that you love Dima 🏓 Since the youngest age Dimas dad told him to daily train on breathing out very strongly when he hit the ball - to get more power in the strokes. That breathing out became stronger and stronger over the years making the sounds - but it is also what is giving the extra 20% of power. Personally (Jenny, Dimas wife writing) I lived in Japan in a table tennis center in my youth and they told me to do the exact same thing. Same as SO MANY of the powerful tennis player, they are also sounding when they are playing, do you find them embarrassing to?.. Hope that when you have this information you can think differently about it :)
@@TTSmashCity Nick Denny, hi ! With all my respect, have you ever tried (I mean just tried) to hit the ball that fast-powerful-devastating-infernally ? I mean, we’ not pros (sadly) but when you try to loop-kill the ball, IMHO, screaming helps you to get energy, but also to have a “tempo” of your stroke. Try it ! It will be fun ! It’s like recharge after draining all the power, and you can go again and again and again (in my case just 6 or 7 “again” 😂). Congrats for the channel and a big thanks to both of you for filming and posting theses videos. 🏓🤩
@@TTSmashCity just ignore
This is tabletennis, not karate, shut your mouth dude
You can see the looped balls drop faster than normal due to the Magnus effect.
Why did you twiddle at 1:10 and 4:36 for smashing? Did you change your backhand rubber from Dignics 09C?
I think he changed to dignics 05 on backhand and thats why he twiddled.
Nice
Good
👍👍👍
Nice
Nice