Is *DARK PHOENIX* REALLY GOOD or TOTAL SH*T?!
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Is DARK PHOENIX Good or Bad?! I Can't Tell.
The slowed down scenes for Quicksilver isnt cause he controls time but he's moving so fast its pretty much showing us what things look like to him. His power though is super speed.
But in the comics, wasn’t it explained that his power is actually based on time?
@vilestre7315 At one point in the comics, Quicksilver loses his powers and regains them with the bonus of being able to travel to the future, but no, his powers have always been super speed.
@@vilestre7315you might be thinking of Zoom from DC comics whos power essentially slows time around him giving him the appearance of super speed like a speedster
Thats why I never got the walkman he uses in DoFP and Apocalypse. Either its playing the music insanly fast or he just hears a fraction of a second of a single note.
@@NationalRunescape “quicksilver is a mutant with the ability to slow down time while not being effected and has enhanced agility and reflexes. He is able to run and accomplishes feats such as creating cyclones out of slowing time, running up walls and above bodies of water.”
As for the funeral weather, that could easily mirror Storm's own emotional state. So when she's angry, depressed and grieving the skies would cry instead of being sunny. Chances are it took all of her self-control to keep the weather at dreary drizzle instead of a hurricane or tornado.
And even if storm could make it sunny she wouldn’t as the rain suits the funeral more.
Like in xmen 2 or the last stand she was outside feeling sad and professor x rolled outside he said the forecast didn't say it was gonna be cloudy something like that but it's Cool how storm emotions are tied to the weather
Seems like a bit of a stretch to me
@@chains4715how is that a stretch. It’s already been established that powers can be affected by your emotions.
@@chains4715in apocalypse storm said mystique was her hero
Storm at her most powerful is able to change weather patterns across the whole world depending on her emotional state - so for the funeral to just have a light drizzle is pretty impressive honestly
She was also enhanced by apocalypse in this timeline.
she is the strongest x-men atm in the comics. angry at thor she created atmospheric pressure = to saturn around him.
Last Stand and Dark Phoenix are both unfaithful takes on the Dark Phoenix storyline from the comics, which is why they feel similar.
im pretty sure being faithful to the comics is not the goal for life action movies.
@@theflyingdutchguy9870 More betrayal than unfaithful. The Phoenix is a huge part of the X-Men comics but it's still possible to do movies and omit that aspect of Jean's character. If they can't go all in with the Phoenix persona then anything else just looks like the studio isn't trying.
Somehow this one was even worse than Last Stand which is saying something.
I both hate and love the x-men movies. I think the casting was amazing (minus a few charcters like Halle Berry as Storm) but the storylines... absolute trash.
There was an interview years ago where one of the writers said that they messed up the storyline so bad that they just started doing whatever they wanted.
It would not be possible to be faithful to them without several movies setting up at least a trilogy and even then it would be difficult. If you are not looking at it from the angle of "are they being faithful to the characters" then you are doing it wrong.
No offense, but have you ever read the Dark Phoenix Saga yourself?
just to clear it up again, bc I'm not sure you got Quicksilver's powers correctly: His powers have nothing to do with time manipulation, he's just real fast. That's why it seems like time is slowing down around him, when he's running. And that's also why that line he says at the end of the movie is actually funny. :D
Wow. I was literally thinking about mentioning this but you beat me to it lol. Quick is literally in his name- he's kinda like Marvel's equivalent to the Flash imo.. well- to a point at least.
@@thecraftygamer1674 lol I wanted to make that exact same connection, but then thought: "we're with Marvel here; let's leave DC outta this." xD but yeah, they're basically the same (even though The Flash is demonstrably faster than Quicksilver).
@@thecraftygamer1674stop using the word “literally” so much. You can get your point across without it as it’s redundant word. Same can be said for the word “actually”. You don’t need it to make a proper sentence. Now reread what you typed out, but remove the word “literally”. See? You don’t need to use a redundant word.
Eisenstein and special relativity might disagree with you there mate
@@daddynanners3944 oh- didn't notice. Seems to be a bad grammar habit I have yet to get rid of.
Her real back story is Jean was playing with her childhood friend but her friend was hit by a car and killed, in the seconds of this happening Jean activated her powers and froze time to communicate with her friend so she could pass in peace.. it was such a huge display that the Phoenix force (cosmic energy) noticed from so far in space.. it tracked her for years and when they went on a space mission it attacked Their ship so Jean used all her power to save everyone else and again the Phoenix was so impressed by her power and strength that it possessed her. She was fine for a year however would faint here and there.. then the hellfire club kidnaps her brainwashes her for another year but she figures it out and becomes dark Phoenix and DAMN NEAR KILLS EVERYONE 😂❤
THAT would be a great movie
The Phoenix force didn't possess Jean originally, it Replaced her and stuck her in a cocoon to heal from all the radiation she took in. The original Dark Phoenix was a Cosmic entity trying to be human, ultimately giving in to its immense power, then finding the spark of Jean's humanity to "end" it's avatar's existence.
@@michaelolivero1626 what an interesting opinion.. do you realise the comics have several versions of every single marvel story.. reading something different to the comics I have read doesn’t make me wrong, you just obviously don’t understand how marvel comics work in general… but that’s okay you will learn hopefully
@@michaelolivero1626The cocoon thing was a retcon because for a long time they had a policy of not bringing Jean back because she literally committed genocide and didn’t want a version of her tainted by that legacy
Ugh the retcon... Claremont got around it in some ways with little hints of her actually being a piece of the Phoenix but it still sucks. I just pretend she showed up again in the 90s.
Sophie made a great Jean Grey and Famke made a perfect dark Phoenix. The way Famke flipped the switch still gives me chills to this day.
Many men's pants became tight when they saw her rip out Logan's belt with her telekinesis in Last Stand
@@illiji915 exactly ! 😂 she was down bad
Famke's Jean is awesome, you can really tell she's out of control. Here, Jean just feels like some ragy teenager.
@SirKolass this is exactly how I feel. Like, all of these versions in this story feel like I'm watching a CW show.
well duh, she is much younger than Famke's Jean. @@SirKolass
its literally telekinesis shes not controlling time. shes just stronger and more powerful than everyone. if he cant put his feet on a surface to run hes easy to take down.
She might either have telekinesis sense or read his mind and know that she has to push him quicker.
The point was she wouldn't normally have the reaction time or speed of thought necessary to remove the surfaces he was running on, even with the Phoenix force.
@@JakkFrost1 No, with the Phoenix force, she can literally re-write reality. She can destroy the universe, create a new one, can reach back in time, or steal the life-force reserved for future generations denying their existence entirely. She can consume stars, planets.... anything. She basically can do anything with just her thoughts. That's why she was such grave threat when in possession of the Phoenix force. In the comics, as Dark Phoenix, she murdered an entire planet full of inhabitants in an instant without much thought or care.
@@JakkFrost1 She was able to stop Quicksilver in his tracks three separate instances in the comics in base form. 💀
Dark Phoenix is definitely one of my least favorite X-Movies, but it has some great aspects. Hans Zimmer’s score, the performances, the train fight, the yellow suits, and humans liking mutants for a change and causing Charles to become more careless with mutants.
X3 did the Phoenix dirty. I didn't think they could mess up the storyline even more... and then this movie came out.
I agree with this. Musically as well.
The movie itself is very serviceable in its overall qualities. Mix of meh, good and great acting. Some visuals are great others are PS3 cutscene like. Story itself is pretty mediocre , but I LOATHE the retcon they did. At least in original trilogy, the timeline still made sense and was logical. But in Apocalypse they showed the phoenix shape at the movie climax , in a way that was establishing it was part of Jean, but they just dropped that to switch the origins. For me that was the last straw, I couldn’t do anything else but hatewatch it. It’s definitely the one I actually dislike. X3 and Wolverine origins are not very good but I still enjoy them. This one was a chore to get trough, and had no interest in rewatching it ever. Im fine with 1/2 doing it this way lol, but even if a was patron, I’d still watch the cut reaction, no way I’d do the whole movie + watch along loll
@@quinnzelreign8775 How can you can that if you've never read the Dark Phoenix Saga yourself? lol
@agentofchaos7456 I've read all of it. You want me to count the times Jean has been killed and resurrected?
16:34 Alex almost never understands things and doesn’t get references so him saying “she just got Logan’d” makes me very proud 😅
😂😂😂
You can still do Marvel Mondays with non MCU Marvel movies. The Blade trilogy, Ghostrider, Fantastic Four and all the Netflix Marvel shows. Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Defenders, Luke Cage and Iron Fist.
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Peter's ability is not controlling time. His mutant ability is speed. Hence the name, Quicksilver. He moves faster than time itself.
Cyclop's visor allows him to control his optic beam. From a wide blast to a pinpoint one. ✌️
...faster than time? I don't think you know how time works.
@@Patrick-jd1ku 😂
I’m pretty sure Jean put up a telekinetic field, so Quicksilver was basically running through an extra dense area, which slowed him down considerably.
That plus the Phoenix is vastly more powerful than any x men there is so even if that wasn't the case the Phoenix would've still been able to combat quick silver with ease
@@dal1947 At least in the comics, isn't Jean suppose to be one of the most powerful telekinetic users and telepaths on the planet even without the Phoenix Force? Like top 5, probably top 3. I think the only one who can really come close are her children with Alt Shaman Nate being the only one I can think of that matched her power with the phoenix force, but that was an outlier series I believe to show us again how powerful Cable could have been without the technovirus.
@@joshbull623 yeah, I just didn't mention it since this movie was mainly her tapping into the Phoenix. Idk if on the same level but I think I also remember in the comics 1 of the scarlet witch's kids, Billy/wiccan, being extremely powerful too, more powerful than Wanda and dormammu but like I said I can't remember if he was on that top 5 list
No, I think the Phoenix was able to predict where Quicksilver was going. Apocalypse did the same thing, but it took him a few milliseconds. Phoenix is much more powerful.
I always thought she got inside his head and predicted where he would go
Alex fighting his own hiccups actually made the video more fun
The 3 things I’ll give this movie is
1. Michael Fassbender
2. The way the phoenix looks (especially the cracks on the skin)
3.the soundtrack (one of my favourites)
Yes!!! Michael Fassbender!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes!!! Michael Fassbender!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes!!! I feel like I like the cosmic version of the Phoenix more than the fiery look! And the floating hair was amazing
Storm could have stopped the rain but her emotions usually govern her powers. She’s got great control if we’re being honest.
This could've done better but I will say I think has some good spots. Jean forcing Charles to walk & him being in absolute pain. Magneto just being Magneto. Train fight wasn't too bad, especially Nightcrawler losing it. I actually do love watching Phoenix just turn everything to ash & being so powerful she can't be touched. No where near my favorite X-Men but I've seen way worse movies.
If you want to see McAvoy in all his splendor you should watch Split (2016). It is the second film in a trilogy.
Yes! Unbreakable is the first movie.
Amazing trilogy
Yes, yes, yes o i love this movie-Split
Funniest thing is that they did this movie to make a better version of X3: The Last Stand and ended up making something way worse.
At least we’re getting to the part in the cycle where the “Days of Future Past” movie comes along to rewrite and fix all the shitty character development and needless shock-factor deaths.
I’m looking forward to enjoying another X-Men movie!
Part of the reason why this movie feels so weird is because it’s being made by a first time director. Simon Kinberg was a producer and even occasional writer on a lot of the previous films, but he’s never directed something before until this. There’s definitely promise there and the behind the scenes footage makes him seem like a super nice dude, but I think this was too big of a directorial project to take on and it just feels so much smaller than the Phoenix story should.
I don't feel it's entirely on him though. I remember when this movie was being filmed there was alot of reshoots and other stuff going on. But yeah he may have played a part in the movie not being as good as it could be
I also believe this was the transitional period between handing X-men back over to Marvel from Fox. So things were probably shifting quite heavily around the area, same with New Mutants (which I actually like better than this film.. but the original premise seemed like they wanted to go more hard R direction.. and were never able to).. so a lot of studio meddling with these last two films if I remember correctly.. I'm sure that's not all to blame, part of it is on the director/writers as well, but some things out of their hands as well.
That's not why. I knew someone who was part of the production on that movie, so I got to see the original third act cut (secretly) and the whole account of what went down. Originally, Simon Kinberg wanted to do a more comic accurate cosmic version of the story in a two-parter series with a gritter tone like Logan. That's the way he pitched it to the studios and spent 5-6 months writing the script & setting the budget for two movies. The studio greenlit it because they wanted a different direction from the disappointment of the last movie, and they started pre-production. Then as they entered production a month or two before they started filming, the studio suddenly scraped that entire plan after sets were already being built, completely blindsiding Kinberg and his crew. With the whole plan was torpedoed, Kinberg now had to write a new script while filming at the same time (some scenes were shot without a script). This is when the skrulls got introduced into the story, which is what Jessica Chastain's character turned into (she was originally meant to play the Shiar empress Lilandra). The studio had him write in a big battle with the super-skrulls in the 3rd act at the United Nations (was the largest set piece out of all the x-men movies). Because of that, the movie had elements more similar to Secret Invasion, with the skrulls infiltrating parts of the government and launching a big scale attack in the third act. But Captain Marvel was being developed at that time and Kevin Feige did not want the skrulls used in this movie (and he obviously had plans to adapt Secret Invasion later on as well), so some behind the scenes sketchy meddling was being done between the studio execs, and Chastain's character was later changed again from a skrull to some unknown undefined alien (because they had no idea who to replace her character with).
Then the Disney-Fox merger was publicly announced. The rumor was that Murdoch & the top studio heads were already privately having discussions long before the Dark Phoenix and other films entered production, so they knew they were likely going to start scrapping projects and changing others but kept that info private. After the announcement, long term studio people were being fired in the middle of filming and replaced with temps. Then because of scheduling conflicts, the third act battle at the UN couldn't have all the x-men fighting together. So, after filming had already completed, the studio order reshoots to put all the actors together in the third act. But they had already disassembled the huge set pieces and didn't have enough time or money to rebuild them, so the WHOLE third act was cut completely and replaced with a cheaper, smaller scaled battle train sequence with rushed VFX. The original third act was much larger in scale and the skrulls (at the time) were much more violent. Jean's power also looked much better (and more comic accurate) in the original cut because they had spent more time on the VFX. But because Disney was absorbing Fox, Kevin Feige had more influence and didn't want the phoenix fire effect wasted on this movie, so it was changed (some shots completely re-rendered) to look less like the dynamic fiery phoenix bird (you see a glimpse of that at the end of the first teaser trailer) and more like a generic "cosmic power". Simon Kinberg left the studio system to focus more on his production company, I believe. He felt betrayed a little by all the underhanded, behind-the-scenes meddling of Feige (rumored), but he never voiced that openly.
No, the reason it was so weird is because Fox initially green lit this movie and script for it to be a 2 part film. It was already written and approved. But when production began, they changed their minds because of the disney sell and told them it was now only going to be one movie. Simon and the cast had to work together to re-do the script and change it all for one movie. They managed to do that and Fox would then push back the movie release date twice. In the midst of this, it gave time for captain marvel to release revealing skrulls as the main antagonist, the aliens in this movie was supposed to be skrulls and the third act was something entirely different. Because of the push back, they had to go back and re-shot the entire third act and remove all mention of skrulls.
Disney and Fox screwed Simon, the production, and the cast over.
@@CrazeeAdam I can’t understand liking New Mutants more than this film! There are some truly great moments and performances in Dark Phoenix but New Mutants was the most awkward, boring, and strangely edited movie I’ve ever seen.
You could easily go on a James McAvoy (young Chas X) movie binge and it’d be awesome
Oh my gosh YESSS!! James McAvoy is my favourite actor and he has so many amazing movies, and some of them are actually quite well known. Split, IT Chapter 2, and Narnia would be my recommendations
Changing the radio station wouldn’t have stopped the crash. The crash was a result of her mutant powers activating. Jean is the most powerful telekinetic and telepathic mutant. So her saying be quiet was because she was hearing all the voices in her head. The only part that confuses me about this movie is why the dad didn’t go to sleep. That still baffles me how it only affected the mom when she unknowingly and unintentionally invaded their minds.
Also you should look up the power rankings for all the X-Men cause I think The Phoenix, Magneto, and Charles are among the higher tiers of x-men. Also I would not do chronological order for the x-men movies. It may confuse you more as most people think of the McAvoy/Fassbender x-men movies as a redo of the franchise.
The McAvoy/Fassbender is essentially a reboot of the franchise. First class was just a prequel sure, but then you go to days of future past which rewrites history and creates an alternate time-line. So X-Men First Class, X-Men, X-Men 2, X-Men 3 The Last Stand, Origins: Wolverine, The Wolverine, and half of Days of Future Past happen on one time-line and the other half of Days of Future Past, Apocalypse, and Dark Phoenix happen in another time-line.
Phoenix, Magneto and Professor X are Omega class mutants which is the peak of the mutant power pyramid. Try saying that five times fast...lol 🤣😆
@@roystoyscomics1361there’s now a clear definition of Omega Level mutants, only Jean and Magneto are Omegas, Xavier is only an Omega Telepath. Storm and even Iceman are also Omega Level mutants yet the fox movies didn’t give them much justice
It's possible that the mental voice she was hearing most at that point was her mother's, and she just 'made it quiet.'
Quick Silver doesn't have any sorta time control. All he has. hence his name is extreme speed. So fast that time almost stands still for his movements. ( He's Marvels version of The Flash with the silver lightning bolts and all that in his costume ) .. But yeah she could feel his mind and in doing so she could stop him from getting closer and she also had a Telekenetic shield up to stop him from getting too close . As Mystique did .
Same thing with the Flash. They both move so fast the world around them feels slow to them. There`s even a song about it by Jim`s Big Ego.
I thought all jean did was read Peter's mind to know where he was planning to step then just used her telekinesis to remove said step
I really hope he gets around to watching Blade for a Marvel Monday. Old school cool
Yes. Plus than he might have a little more understanding of the new Blade movie coming out
You can even tell the actors are so done with the franchise. 😂 Especially Jennifer Lawrence.
What do you mean by that?
I think the reason why you feel that way about Mystique these last few movies, is due to the fact that Jennifer Lawrence lost the enthusiasm for the character because she felt that the makeup took too long, which I feel that is a wasted opportunity with a legacy character, such as Mystique
The only movie she had the make up on the whole time was future past! All the other movies she had it for like two or three scenes! Rebecca is a much better Mystique!
@@athgavr3850 agreed
It’s not about “Time”. Jean can’t control Time. So Quick Silver either. He can move so fast that everything around him becomes slower obviously.) But Phoenix’s mind as we can see much quicker than we thought.
Yeah Quicksliver's power is supposed to be super speed, and the MCU portrayed it well. But in the FOX X-Men movies his power level was absurd, way beyond the comics... and some artistic twists were added which couldn't be logically explained as super-speed, it had to be some kind of time manipulation. For example, listening to music on his Walkman, or pouring himself a glass of water and drinking it while movig at super-speed while everything else around him was (almost) standing still.
I do agree with Alex about him moving so fast that people like Jean and Apocalypse shouldn't be able to perceive or react to him effectively.
You're partially correct. Jean as the Phoenix can control time. Phoenix exists and operates outside space, time and reality.
“Ohh my god she just got Logan, ohhh nooo” 16:30 😂😂😂
i just realized that jeans father was played by none other than David from our last of us😯
Fun fact: the mutant girl that got picked by the head an thrown out of the train (her name is Selene) is THE first mutant ever (yes, older than apocalypse and anyone else) and they did her so dirty in this movie 🤣
There is no chronological order, just the regular order in which they were released, I guess except for first class. Days of future past changed the timeline when Logan went back in time to change stuff, that's why whenever he went back to his own timeline afterward Jean was alive again
You know, I know it took a lot, but it's pretty impressive that Erik was actually able to hold his own against Jean with that helicopter scene. And in Apocalypse, besides Jean, Erik was the last one standing against him.
They simply can't get the Dark Phoenix saga right. It is so simple the story is there all they had to do is follow it but no... they just had to nerf Jean Grey and completely f@ck up the Phoenix.
The reason they can’t get her story straight is because she’s terribly written…She’s just not a great character…i find her boring and not all that compelling
Jean was not nerfed in this movie, bruh.
In the comics, Jean was literally the weakest X-Man before she became Phoenix. You clearly never read the comics.
@@agentofchaos7456 The Phoenix is the OP personified. The Phoenix Force is among the most feared beings in all of existence-it can cut, re-grow, or destroy any part of the universe. It has been described as being "the embodiment of the very passion of Creation-the spark that gave life to the Universe, the flame that will ultimately consume it. And somehow Magneto was able to match her for a second? Also they barley showed what she really could do. So I'm sticking with nerfed.
@@agentofchaos7456 And clearly you're not reading them now as Jean has come into her own. She is an OMEGA LEVEL TELEPATH ( that means bro that her telepathic potential is limitedless) so yeah in the early days she was only there as the damsel in distress but not anymore.
Dark Phoenix definitely had a lot of issues, but I really like the way they showed off her powers in this film tbh, i.e. eyes glowing, glowing cracks in her skin, hair floating, etc.
The only thing that I like about this movie is that they killed that Mystique
You forgot about the ghost rider, hulk [2003],daredevil, electra, blade, OG cap movies[before the MCU],more Netflix shows, the three fantastic four movies and also Loki season 2.
I cant wait to see your reaction to The Boys😂
He is SO not ready for Homelander 😂
@@kristamcnair1430Ik😂
Gen V too!
Omg Yes!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
If you have hiccups occur with any degree of regularity look into it. I learned that frequent hiccups can indicate liver issues and since no one tells anyone about it I prefer to be too cautious and inform people when I see a reason.
Nice abs btw.🙂
Oh & I call Charles the same thing I call England's new King.....Chuckles.
20:05 - 20:08 Magneto: "👉🤨I may be crazy, *🫵😠but you're crazy!* "
That coachella performer girl person is actually a mutant named Dazzler.. she's pretty cool in comics.. hence those dazzling lights around her as she sings.. and this movie rendition of how Jean combined with Phoenix force i believed is the closest to the animated series of the 90s.. anyways keep doing you Alex !!!
20:21 magneto kills people “we shouldn’t trust him” Jean kills people “she’s awesome”
Magneto crushing that train car....sooo satisfying.
That’s twice fox botched the dark Phoenix story
Not really. All this movie did was replace the Hellfire Club with the aliens as villains. Other than that, it still follows the same basic structure as the Hellfire Club arc.
6:29 lol Chaz X has a training wheel. That's cute.
About Jean combatting Peter’s abilities: she did exactly what Apocalypse did in the last one. She wasn’t controlling time, or moving fast. She simply was able to *perceive* on a small enough timescale to act to telekinetically move his next step. Her perception and telekinesis can outmatch his speed. Same with Apocalypse.
Telepathy is one thing, but extremely practiced and honed telekinesis can light the air on fire by exciting oxygen molecules, that's basically Jean but without the practice...or restraint. lol
It's really good! The fight scene on the train is probably one of best usages of powers that we have ever seen in X-Men movies. Yes it should have been longer to handle the story better but it was not as bad people made it seem.
The frustrating thing is that this movie was *supposed* to be split in two. Simon Kinberg the director has said he had plans for a 2-part Dark Phoenix storyline, but then the Disney-Fox merger came into play and forced them to cut it into one movie and completely re-shoot the third act because originally they were using Skrulls and Marvel didn't want it to clash with Captain Marvel, a shame.
It still turned out pretty decent though
@@passionsquietragethis movie was NOT decent
@@HUNTtheTRUTH1 You're right, it was good.
Dark Phoenix is a stage in Jean's ultimate evolution.
The Phoenix itself is a cosmic entity (think Eternity in Thor Love & Thunder) and the embodiment of creation and life and Jean is its nexus (kinda how Wanda is the nexus of chaos magic).
Dark Phoenix is what happens when Jean doesn't have control of her emotions because her powers come from her emotions.
But once she takes control of her feelings she and the phoenix become one and ascend to a place called the White Hot Room which is where universes are born. At that point she becomes the White Phoenix of the Crown and is pretty much a goddess of life and death, creation and destruction.
Not me just realizing that Jean was screaming a lot less in this than in the cartoon. No Jeangasms here. 🤣 I have had a blast watching your journey of reactions to the XMen series.👍
To my understanding, Quicksilver doesn’t control time. When it shows everything going slow, it’s in slow motion so you can see what he’s doing because he’s moving super fast. So Jean didn’t necessarily “control time.” She was just able to move quick enough to move the platform he was on, or sense that he would walk on it and move it
James McAvoy is one of my favorite actors of all time!
You should react to his movie “Wanted” you’ll love it !
Trance and filth are far better than wanted
@@jamesthemachinedean 👍🏾
I'm not sure if you noticed, but this QuickSilver was the same one in WandaVision. That's why it was such a big deal when he showed up in episode 5 (of WandaVision)
You know it's on when Alex is tearing up the room before the movie even starts. 🤣
Beast + Magneto = best team up ever. Mystique’s two main lovers on a vengeance quest. Best part of this movie
Despite the criticism the movie received, I went to see it with an open mind.
And even after acknowledging its flaws, i walked out satisfied.
It's the little things that make these movies enjoyable. Hans Zimmer's score alone made this movie worth watching
The funny thing about some of the criticisms is that many people thought this was the finale of the X-Men universe and tried to judge it on that merit. Except it literally isn't. Since the upcoming Deadpool/Wolverine movie is confirmed to be a continuation of the X-Men universe.
This movie is underrated. Maybe it’s just me but every so often I re-watch Dark Phoenix. Also Alex, my Jean Grey is Sophie Turner.. as for my Mystique you can’t choose 😍
Ironically, the first Wolverine voice actor in an X-Men cartoon was Australian! 👀
X-MEN: A little too cautious, not knowing what direction to go in..
X-2: Definitely Hitting their stride and great.
X-Men The Last Stand: Tried to run in too many directions at once with it's shoe laces tied together and fell on its face...
X-Men Origins Wolverine: It had its moments..
The Wolverine: Just confused and making up terrible characters for no reason
X-Men First Class: Very creative and took risks that paid off with character development and epic.
X- Men Days of Future Past: Absolutely BRILLIANT
X-Men Apocalypse: Sigh...and why?
Logan: Absolutely brutal and satisfyingly heartbreaking...
X-Men Dark Phoenix: Didn't...even...bother with it.
Much too kind to the last stand
LOL totally agree
In the comics Prof. X also tried to create this “walls” in the mind of Wanda but also didn’t worked so he technically told to the Avengers that they needed to kill her and because of that everything went even worse, so yeah, he does not always makes the right choice
He overestimates his own ability to help others, when the truth is mutants like Jean and Wanda probably do need to be culled early in life before they become unstoppable. Charles just can’t accept that there’s people who he can’t fix. I imagine having the power to control the mind of anyone on the planet would give you a bit of a complex, especially when you meet someone who’s powerful enough to control you instead.
He did put walls up on Jean in the comics too but they were only temporary until she learned to control her powers better.
"Oh nooo she just got loganed"
Too soon, Alex. Too soon.
I think Charles made the right call letting Raven talk to her. If she can stop Quicksilver, whatever Beast shoots at her doesn't stand a chance. Still, think it would've been best to tell Jean that her dad was alive and didn't want her right away or when she turned like 14-16, but that situation isn't 100% on Chas either.
Also if he'd let Beast shoot her, whether or not it worked, Raven would have torn into him like Hank did because he interfered.
My guy jeans mind was faster then quicksilvers feet. That’s it’s. His power is he’s really fast. Not time manipulation.
at 16:01 jean didn't combat quicksilvers power all she just did was move the platform/debris he was gonna step on but since jean moved it he lost his balance and crashed
"You can't penetrate Jean like that" - that didn't sound...well, dude.
It's bad with a few good things sprinkled but mostly just bad
For me, the most effective method of getting rid of hick-ups is to slowly drink (not sip, drink slowly) water over the course of several seconds while plugging or covering your ears. Not the easiest thing to drink water with both hands occupied like that, especially if you don't have a straw or another person around to hold the drink.
As someone who likes or loves the X-Men movies more than most others, I can definitively say yes this is bad. Very bad.
This movie definitely didin't needed Jessica Chastain and the other aliens. They just took screen time from Jean and the
X-Men.
I didn't like this movie. The worst X-Men movie
One of the reasons I have heard for why Dark Phoenix flopped was that it released around the same time as Endgame. So people just forgot about it.
For better or for worse
I'll always prefer the X-Men movies over the MCU
Because even the bad ones have something else to offer, something better than the MCU
yeah yeah whatever you say
Jean is just telekinetic, psychic yada yada google it. It was the Phoenix force that made her OP af.
Don't get me wrong, I love Jean, she's my second favorite female Xmen character (first being Emma Frost, IYKYK)
My favorite part of this movie is that the people who capture them are called the Mutual Containment Unit, so their patches says MCU. Its clearly suppose to be a subtle "the MCU is capturing taking the X-Men away" but like...they did it in the _second_ bungled attempt at adapting the Dark Phoenix so its got a _bit_ less of an impact (god I hope the MCU leaves that alone. Give us House of M instead. Also please don't ruin House of M)
'Okay' is probably the best complement I can give this movie. As a movie that is.
But as an adaptation of the Dark Phoenix Saga, it's pretty bad. It's just so bland and it feels like nothing's really happening compared to the comics.
Dark Phoenix is really bad it’s up there with Wolverine Origins and X-men Last Stand as the worse movies in the X-men universe
Actually I thought DP was pretty damn good . I think critics expectations were too high. The story line had an internal battle with Jean Grey's mental illness. Dealing with people with mental illness I found it interesting . I just think it wasn't what people were expecting.
Alex, you make my Mondays feel like Fridays
Keep being you alex, your reactions and commentaries are raw and unscripted. That's why I love your content bro.
I can't wait for him to watch Loki season 2
At her full power
The Phoenix could destroy our entire galaxy in seconds.
I love your movie reactions, the way you comment on scenes is fucking hilarious lol. After I watch the most recent one, I go back and rewatch other videos. I know you post movie reactions once or twice a week but I enjoy them so much I wish you would post more a week. Is that at all possible? Either way, thank you so much for your reactions, it really does uplift my day!
Dark Phoenix was a scrambled mess for a movie, but it does introduce the Phoenix Force, an extraterrestrial energy that seeks out powerful organisms and attaches itself to them like the symbiotes in Spider-Man. It amplifies their power and is extremely unpredictable. It can’t be controlled by any of its hosts, no matter how hard they try to. It amplifies their power to an almost above-God level. It will take advantage of its hosts until they’re worn out, then move in to the next host. It is an evil force. Anyone who possesses it is basically a wild animal and extremely unpredictable. They have no control over it and it calls all of the shots all the time.
I do think Cyclops traditionally has a trigger in the thumb of his glove so he just pushes down a little. Touching visor he can usually trigger and adjust size on the fly.
The way I see it there is three timelines. The original X Trilogy + XMen Origins: Wolverine, The Wolverine. Second Timeline First Class, Days of Futures Past (Which intersects with the original Timeline, branching off into a revised timeline), Apocolypse, and Dark Phoenix. And the third timeline the revised timeline that was created after Days of Futures Past ending, Deadpool, Deadpool 2, New Mutants, Logan.
10:32 I hope we get to see smaller/ side characters like Dazzler, Armor, Banshee/ Siryn, Darwin, Psylocke, Blink, etc show up in the MCU at some point.
I don't know much about the characters since I don't read the comics, but their powers all sound interesting & I'd love to see how well they could be done in the MCU.
Same guy who wrote The Lst Stand remade his work onto this one, and also was his directorial debut, and boy we can tell, his rookie work.
TLS failed because of Avi Arad's desire to use the movie to sell toys
And Simon Kinberg did a better job directing than writing
And he wasn't being a director for hire like Brett Ratner
The X-Men movies are only considered bad if you had no knowledge of the X-Men before the movies
Neither, it's horrible.
Very under-rated movie that got a bad rap from uptight diehard fans that wanted "The Phoenix Saga" which would take nothing less than 2 movies to set up at least a trilogy of films. If you are not looking at it from the angle of "are they being faithful to the characters" then you are doing it wrong.
The Quicksilver getting nerfed scene is ridiculous, agreed. Jean doesn't have superspeed. So technically Quicksilver should have been able to run up to her and knock her out. But...the writers of these movies never know how to handle Quicksilver's powers because he could literally solve any problems instantly. So they nerf him. In Avengers: Age of Ultron, he suddenly can't outrun or dodge bullets? X-Men: Days of Future Past, they just don't bring him on the final important mission? X-Men Apocalypse, he gets his leg broken. And here Jean suddenly can think faster than he can run and nerfs him.
The new mutants isn't the last x-men movie because we still have DeadPool 3 next year.
Definitely too harsh against the mom, not changing a station should NEVER result in the situation that did, especially when they didn't know Jean was capable of that. If it wasn't then, it would have been another time. Jean would have felt an angry trigger and killed someone eventually. It's no one's fault, it's just tragic.
It's not just Jean Grey's powers, it's the dark phoenix creature in her that's making her so powerful. It's like in the top 10 cosmic beings.
Some movies are written very cleverly, and you come away from them impressed with how smart this or that person was.
In this movie, every situation revolves around people being really, immensely dumb. As for viewing the movies in chronological order ... you can't do that, because they changed history. So the timeline from the first movies is not the timeline of the later movies.
This film has an incredible soundtrack, the Phoenix and my favorite character after Scarlet Witch 💋💋
I can't be the ONLY person that is attracted to Alex and his magical gooch powers.
I would enjoy tickling his gooch.
6:02 I would be like The Mayor in Power Puff Girls. "Professor Xavier, I have a pickle jar that won't open." "Professor Xavier, I can't find my car keys."
"Professor Xavier, nobody has come to see me today 😔."
They scraped most of this movie and reshot it because it ended like Endgame. Basically Jean took out an alien armada like Ms Marvel so Disney made them reshoot the second half and took out the skrulls and armada and added the train sequence to try to salvage the film. Basically not their fault.
Jennifer saying “men r always making the problems” as the whole most popular movie is based off of her ending the world with her decisions
dark phoenix is TERRIBLE
I mean it has some good scenes
@@beyhivenoah So you didn’t mean it’s terrible?
What makes it terrible?
Meet me in the parking lot 👊👊
(Jk)
@@Cute.lil.bubbles 😂 🤡
I think you hit the nail right on the head when you say this should have been 2 movies