American Builds/U.S Army there are some trucks that look awful but than there are good classic ones, there’s the peterbilt 379,freightliner classic XL,kenworth W900A there’s so much classic trucks that I like
I'd take a older truck over these new sensor auto shift trucks any day! The comfort on new trucks is better but I absolutely hate that distance sensor where if not careful it will slam the brakes on.
PTBullet BoyGaming safety lol drivers now are dying way more than drivers back then, y’all don’t know how to drive anymore because of all your stupid safety features
@@BulletBoyGaming if you drive careless yes you will kill yourself especially cheat the log book and fall asleep behind the wheel.. oooohhh wait those long nose trucks kill the drivers too .. I like cabover trucks over these long nose trucks in Europe and Africa and Brazil these cabover trucks are the state of the art
I still operate the oldest Fleet on the road today. I have 16 T600's from 1985 to 1990. All running REAL Diesel Engines and NO DEF. My Drivers are always complimented on the trucks. All over a Million Miles, 6 with over 2 Million miles. You couldn't pay me to climb into one of those Snowflake Auto Cruisers they have today.
Those Freightliner COE models were the tractors I drove at my CDL school in 1998. They were fun to learn in, but definitely a physical workout compared to modern conventionals. Drivers had to be tough to endure those things over the road.
kw900lkevin and I’m sure it has more body count (fatality caused by accidents) than the new ones... character or higher chance of walking away from a crash?
It doesn't matter how many hooplas and ringadings they put on new trucks, those old school cabovers are just bad ass. Hands down the best looking trucks. Old Optimus prime is also cooler than the new one
@@BulletBoyGaming half of that is because truck drivers drive too damn fast on the interstates . So many irresponsible truck drivers on the road nowadays. On the cell phones , on the Snapchat, Facebook etc... Alot more distractions for the drivers in these newer trucks with all the electronic doohickies. And these automatic transmissions in my opinion help drivers to possibly fall asleep because of less physical activity
@@gabrielpichardo1492 hold on a second! If they put an automatic in that old cabover (which I drove one for an Arkansas outfit back in 1994) I'D DRIVE IT. Lol.
Thank you for sharing this video. I started out driving one of these for Werner Enterprises. My truck number was 19195. I started there in 1998. I had good times. Thank you for the memories
I'd take that Freightliner over that new garbage any day for the simple fact that once the new truck has been scapped,after a few yrs of use...that old Freightliner will still be rolling down the road. Back then,trucks were built to last.
Indeed, just like cars which now are made of aluminum, not metal...so they can barely survive a nudge. I miss the old trucks, my personal favorite being the w900L which is being replaced by the ugly w990. Anyway have a good day.
W900 for me as well. A family friend just had to buy a new Kenworth because the 2016 was costing him thousands in repairs. Head, transmission and that stupid government crap manufacturers are forced to put on these days were killing his bottom line. So now he has a new $160k truck with the most coverage warranty he could get. $160k for something he will be lucky to get 3 years out of....yeah no way! Good day to you as well👍
The King's Servant yeah, because you’re an idiot. You can keep that smelly old piece of shot and it’s doghouse and clunky shifter. Keep dreaming about junkyard trucks, rookie.
It's interesting to see the comparison on this. We just re-did one of the first trucks that we sold back in 1961.....creature comforts have definitely changed over the years. :D
That COE was awesome. Was really surprised to see how filthy it was inside, it was so nice and clean on the outside!! I have driven COE’s back in the 80’s and aside from the feeling I got from being high up there and the ease of getting out of tight situations, I preferred hood trucks. Hated having to crawl in the sleeper!! Try putting on a pair of pants!!!! And of course the ride was not always comfortable!!! They are awesome to look at that’s for sure.
I started out in cabovers with Ard trucking in 1986 .. another cool thing about the freighterliner double bunk an the Kenworth double bunk is that you could stand up behind the seats an have privacy putting on your clothes 😁
I drove these trucks when they were new.They had air ride cabs and chassis and rode nicely. They were easy to handle, easy to work on, easy to maneuver around and could get in places conventionals could not. I love them and had no problems with them.
I drove those in the early 90’s I can tell you that those trucks were comfortable the set back axle design and the cab air ride in conjunction with the suspension gave a “floating ride” I was raised around trucking I learned to drive a truck when I was 10 just tall enough to touch the pedals that was a 1970 KW logging truck. The old school trucks that were still on the road when that cabover was new was an improvement in driver comfort and productivity.
I put a many of a mile on some just like them. I betcha that it could run further without a breakdown. No regen or sensor problems on the cab over. I went coast to coast on trucks just like that without worry. Also without a cell phone. LOL
My first truck was an 86 Freightliner with a 310 Cat, 9 speed on spring ride. I bought it in '93 for 8k. Sold it a year later and bought a '90 Freightliner cabover with 110" bunk, Serious 60 Detroit 430hp, 13 speed. My brother bought a '94 cabover just like the one in this video with the SB axle. I thought we were truckin in luxury!
I learned how to drive in a long nosed Mack without power at 21yrs old. I spent several years driving things like a White Road Boss, GMC, Mack and Freightliners none of which had power. This was LTL equipment for Roadway, Briggs, CF,PIE etc. I learned how to back those trailers into a dock before I ever took to the street. During my first road test at 21 I had never driven a rig on the street and never around a corner. About an hour later I had a stack of bills to deliver and found myself driving through alleys barely wide enough for the mirrors to clear.
@@RA-ws7it different times that's for sure. I deliver for US Foods and they're just running 10 and 13 speed automatics now. Which is disappointing because I learned on a 10 speed in school. I miss shifting.
Exactly! Old school was no Ac, just little vent window and another one by the driver’s side feet That freightliner was cool trucks , better smooth ride then the 2019 conventional Peterbil I drive now But yep you can tell rookies apart from old school drivers!👌🏻
I'd take the old truck any day. My current truck is a t800 with the 38inch sleeper. Same as the old, no space for anything other then clothes and a cooler and that's all I need on the road but I understand some like having more. The whole fleet runs the 680s and get all of the modern comforts while I have the bare minimum. Ive been offered a new truck over and over but not having any of the systems that the new trucks have is the best plus the truck is short and nimble while having all the power I need.
Back then most companies kept drivers out 4-8 weeks at a time and when you went home it was only for 2-3 days. I saw a lot of drivers on the pay phone talking to their wife or girlfriend crying because they couldn't be there. I started in 1991 when most companies had cab-overs.
Still have my KW cabover. Been driving it for 19 years. It was my dad's truck. It was rebuilt in 1992. And it still runs and drives good. I driving other trucks to test out for the company or to train new people. The Automatics are better liked driving it. Trust b me being in Oklahoma City Oklahoma and Dallas Texas. During rush hour. Was easy driving the Automatic. Plus backing up was easy. No thinking is the clutch hot. I was like maybe I'll do this to mine. Swap from a standard transmission to an automatic transmission. I did and it drives easy. When I teach new students it's the 13 speed. Allot have failed others quit. And others walk out when managers tells them who's the trainer. I been offered money to just pass them. I take the money then kick them out.
@@cjjaxxon stupid auto correct. It still has the stickshift. I have driving other truck's with Automatic transmission. And there better in really heavy traffic.
When I started with Reimer Express way back, cabovers were all they used. Then came the Ford LTL 9000. When it became mostly lease or o/o a lot of Volvo's showed up.
There’s no storage ...... there isn’t any because all you needed was a few tinned goods, a couple gallons of water, some bread and clothing.... back then you could afford to eat twice a day in the truck stops. Mind you, this ol girl was rolling when there were truck stops. Not this crap we get the “privilege “ of stopping at now
10/4 good buddy I just started driving truck and I realized that too the days of cheap meals and mom and pop stops are all gone and done for. I feel cheated but what can you do.
My first truck was a 1989 kenworth k100. I no it’s seems weird but when I hear old school, I think hell it was just yesterday for me. But I must admit it seems both a long time ago and just yesterday. Hard to explain. I’m sure there’s guys out there that feel the same has I do. The cabover didn’t seem small to me. It was fine. But that was a long time ago and we knew no better. It’s simple what we had. I hauled dedicated lowes out of villa rica,ga for southwestern dedicated. It was great!.
:49 those tiny steps would pack with snow in the winter. When you would try to get out of the truck after a 300 mile trip in a snow storm there was no place for your shoes to go so you would have to jump out of the cab. Not fun. Just imagine running teams in that cab over. Crazy right?
I remember International, I believe, added motorized steps that swung out when you opened the doors. Back in the early 90s, I think. No idea how reliable they were, but they were less steep. Still had the standard steps as well, I'm guessing for when the motor broke.
@@spook5756 I'm thinking repair cost these cheap aluminum engineers don't hold up like the older trucks. I'll deal with the winds 11 years of driving I'll get it done.
I’ve always loved those classic cabover trucks. I always dreamed of driving that one. Even when my dad was a truck driver back in the day this was one of the first trucks that he drove.
I bought a 1999 freightliner classic with $5000 and the truck is working just fine, actually more than just fine, it work like Champaign, better than my 2015 auto emoticon and my 2013 volvo .
I used to drive a flat top COE Freightliner for awhile then moved up to the condo style like this one, except mine had a set forward steer axle. Drove them both all over. When I moved into the similar truck shown on this video, I bought a microwave stand to put my TV on and put it in the hole behind the passenger side seat. Bought it at Lowes in Terre Haute, IN that I was delivering at. You should have seen the looks the Lowes employees were giving me while I put it together at picinic table they had by the docks. They were puzzled trying to figure out WTH this driver was going to do with a microwave stand in a big truck. I C-clamped it to the matress bulkhead and bungied the TV to the stand. Fit and worked perfectly.
Cab overs would eliminate a shit ton of drivers these days faster than automation......half couldnt even climb up and half would break a ankle coming out.
Automation is coming to trucking , level 4 driver supervised automation is being certified at the moment, and level 5 fully driver-less automation is in late stage prototype testing.
Omg that cab over had three pedals what's the third pedal for is that the emergency brake lol.noticed that new kenworth didn't have a third pedal or a shifter
I always thought a cabover with extended bunk would make the ultimate o/o rig. If you think about it you could extend the bunk the whole length of the hood of a normal tractor, without increasing wheelbase. Probably could build a little apartment with that kinda space
I guess I am old. I drove one of those coe just like that one except that it didn't have a tilt steering wheel had only a seven speed transmission only 6 or 7 gauges and spring ride suspension. Also where the fire extinguisher was is actually a holder for your coffee thermos. And I never worried about falling out of the truck. I'm getting old and grumpy. New trucks are becoming a pain in the ass. Started otr in 1991.
Just seen this video, Reminds me when i took my CDL ROAD TEST IN A OLD BURLINGTON MOTOR CARRIER TRUCK JUST LIKE THIS CAB OVER, MISS THOSE OLD TRUCKS CLIMB OVER THE DOG HOUSE
I would take that old freightliner over that kenworth any friggin day... and I'd be just about willing to bet my next months salary that you wouldn't even be able to figure out why....
He did mention the triangles for a reason on the KW going to be using them a lot with these new trucks, meanwhile the "old truck" will be driving on by.
The ironic thing about what you said in regard to KITT and an indestructible truck...... On Knight Rider, he DID deal with an indestructible truck named “Goliath” and..... drum roll please..... Goliath was an old model cab over truck
Idk when I think of old school trucking. I think of Manual Steering, Map books and twin stick transmissions were if you miss a gear in the mountains your heading for the ramp
That Freightliner Coe, is better quality built, than that KW.. Pull alot more weight, and did the job.. And I guarantee there was alot less falling out of the Coe, than the KW, cause people actually had a brain, and they used it back then..
Well I used to drive those old Freightliners and International Cab overs and you can have them, they were miserable to drive, sleep in and live in, that big box is the doghouse and it's hot as hell all the time with that engine setting under it, noisy as hell and every time you want to do a "real" pretrip you have to jack up the cab and then all your junk in side the cab falls to the windshield, more then once seen guys knock a windshield out all over the parking lot. No thanks, there's a reason those miserable trucks went away.
It was from the Freightliner's spring suspension of the '70's dumbass, not the quality of the truck. I drove a '66 w/a 270 Cummins and a Spicer 4x4 and I would take a beating to have that truck today. Epic117Man is a trucker troll.
I use to run a one stack Mack, no ac,no power steering, 5spd single axle 48'trailer 40 drops per night and 253 miles per night 5 nights a week. Plus each store had 6 - 55 gallon drums used for auto parts cores that had to be loaded and unload... I had a 23 channel cb. Found a am radio in the trash wired it up and listed to news about desert storm. Good old days my ass.
I started driving in the early 1980s in a 1980 COE freightliner, that thing was a beast... it would beat you to death. Then I got into a 1983 COE freightliner that was a major improvement but still a brutal ride, then a 1986 freightliner conventional because I agreed to be a trainer, but that single sleeper with a trainee just wasnt working out. I literally got one of the first ever “set back front axles” Freightliners that came out like that one ☝️. Man there it was a night and day difference between those and the old style ones that sat on the steering tire and tried to pound your kidneys up to your earlobes, it was even more comfortable, than a freightliner conventional. Listening to you describe the interior made me laugh and have a flash back, yeah that’s about all there were to these, not much storage or anything else in the back... but it didn’t matter the dog house was padded and insulted and you didn’t bang the holy hell out of your knees getting in and out of the sleeper😂. The best part was that limp wristed shifter, man that was nice compared to the old school spicers. Or maybe it was the steps? I never fell out of one of those trucks no matter how icy it got, where as the old ones I wouldnt risk it, I would just jump out of the thing and break the landing by holding on to a sweet spot on one of the hand rails on the side 😂 Thanks for showing us that!
Drove several of those old Freightshaker cabovers with and without the set-back steer axle. You think that's not a lot of space? Pfffft... We thought we had it made back then when we didn't have to get dressed on our backs (something that's even more fun when you suddenly realize that dinner didn't digest so nicely and you have to get dressed fast to make a hasty retreat back inside! lol) I can hear my joints popping these days just thinking about climbing over a doghouse. As for safety, we were safer drivers with a bit more common sense back in those days (we didn't ride on each other's bumpers, watched mirrors instead of cell phones and videos, etc.). We actually drove the trucks instead of the trucks driving us. While I like seeing these pulled out of the weeds these days, I'll stick with my old pre-def 379. Kind of cool to see that they saved this old cabover, though.
Those FLAs actually rode pretty well for being COE, I almost bought one the year before last but I found a beautiful FLT with the extended sleeper, LWB and a 3406 instead, bags all around now and it rides okay
My dad has a 94 peterbilt 377 and never had any big problems with it people he knew had got rid of their old trucks for new trucks they realized that they had made mistake cuz while my dad was rolling down the road they were all on the side of the road waiting for the wrecker man, older trucks is the best truck to really invest in💯
Between an '89 and '93, the '88 SBA had four steps into the cab, '94 to first quarter of '99 were FLB, second quarter of '99 until December 21st 2018 was the Argosy, with three body generations in North America, but four generations in total. The first and second generation Argosy had the same body, they just redesigned the electrical system on it, and called that the gen II
I'm not a trucker by any means, but if I was, I know enough about the auto industry to make the informed choice to take one older than the 'old' one you showed in this video
Yea, I like those old cab over trucks, but I sure wouldn't want to drive one. They had one at my cdl school (non functioning) and I remember standing there looking at it trying to figure out how I would actually manage to climb up into it with killing myself. I hadn't even considered what I would do if I had managed to get up into it and had to climb back down.
As nice as the new modern trucks are, I’d take the cab over every time, the interior may be outdated, but that can be easily fixed, and you’d be driving something that doesn’t look like all the other trucks on the road!
Who here loves classics more than modern trucks
I dont see hoe those old things look good to you guys it might work better but the look is so awful
American Builds/U.S Army there are some trucks that look awful but than there are good classic ones, there’s the peterbilt 379,freightliner classic XL,kenworth W900A there’s so much classic trucks that I like
I love the old truck cabover
Depends
I'd take a older truck over these new sensor auto shift trucks any day! The comfort on new trucks is better but I absolutely hate that distance sensor where if not careful it will slam the brakes on.
I drove a frieghtliner cabover identical to that truck! It was awesome in town and tight spots. I loved that truck!
those are the scary trucks
That was my frist truck as an OO BEST TRUCK I EVER DRIVEN
The old one don't have 16 k Dollar DEF system that screws up every other week.
davidbrennan5 it also doesn’t have nearly enough safety to keep your stupid ass alive
@@BulletBoyGaming I'll take that old truck over the new one any day. Those new ones aren't worth it.
PTBullet BoyGaming safety lol drivers now are dying way more than drivers back then, y’all don’t know how to drive anymore because of all your stupid safety features
@@BulletBoyGaming if you drive careless yes you will kill yourself especially cheat the log book and fall asleep behind the wheel.. oooohhh wait those long nose trucks kill the drivers too .. I like cabover trucks over these long nose trucks in Europe and Africa and Brazil these cabover trucks are the state of the art
@@SirXyloid and automatics transmissions are ruining it and makes it so any idiot with flip flops and pajamas can get their cdl 🤔
Miss my cabover I could get into anywhere with that old dog. She was my 1st truck as a o.o
We had a screamin eagle with a 18spd. Thing hauled ass back in the day.
I still operate the oldest Fleet on the road today. I have 16 T600's from 1985 to 1990. All running REAL Diesel Engines and NO DEF. My Drivers are always complimented on the trucks. All over a Million Miles, 6 with over 2 Million miles. You couldn't pay me to climb into one of those Snowflake Auto Cruisers they have today.
From the mechanic view point, ill take the coe all day. Less down time an less electronic garbage to fail. An who the hell want a auto tractor??
Now thats a truck! Some light custom wiring and that cab could be just as nice as a newer truck.
That was when trucks were trucks..I loved my cab overs. Drove frightliners, like that Pete's and kws
My first over-the-road truck was a White/GMC cab-over. It had the best riding seat I've ever had and it had a spring ride suspension.
Those Freightliner COE models were the tractors I drove at my CDL school in 1998. They were fun to learn in, but definitely a physical workout compared to modern conventionals. Drivers had to be tough to endure those things over the road.
The old Freightliner has more character than the Kenworth 660/680 Ever will,
kw900lkevin and I’m sure it has more body count (fatality caused by accidents) than the new ones... character or higher chance of walking away from a crash?
It doesn't matter how many hooplas and ringadings they put on new trucks, those old school cabovers are just bad ass. Hands down the best looking trucks. Old Optimus prime is also cooler than the new one
@@BulletBoyGaming half of that is because truck drivers drive too damn fast on the interstates . So many irresponsible truck drivers on the road nowadays. On the cell phones , on the Snapchat, Facebook etc... Alot more distractions for the drivers in these newer trucks with all the electronic doohickies. And these automatic transmissions in my opinion help drivers to possibly fall asleep because of less physical activity
@@gabrielpichardo1492 hold on a second! If they put an automatic in that old cabover (which I drove one for an Arkansas outfit back in 1994) I'D DRIVE IT. Lol.
@@cjjaxxon what not man enough to know how to use a Clutch?
Thank you for sharing this video. I started out driving one of these for Werner Enterprises. My truck number was 19195. I started there in 1998. I had good times. Thank you for the memories
Amazing difference of these two trucks, great comparison of old & new. Thank you for sharing.
That old cabover is a sweetheart no matter how short she is on options
No what is sweet is your Camaro
me thanks man, it’s a fun car
I'd take that Freightliner over that new garbage any day for the simple fact that once the new truck has been scapped,after a few yrs of use...that old Freightliner will still be rolling down the road. Back then,trucks were built to last.
Indeed, just like cars which now are made of aluminum, not metal...so they can barely survive a nudge. I miss the old trucks, my personal favorite being the w900L which is being replaced by the ugly w990. Anyway have a good day.
W900 for me as well. A family friend just had to buy a new Kenworth because the 2016 was costing him thousands in repairs. Head, transmission and that stupid government crap manufacturers are forced to put on these days were killing his bottom line. So now he has a new $160k truck with the most coverage warranty he could get.
$160k for something he will be lucky to get 3 years out of....yeah no way!
Good day to you as well👍
@@thekingsservant1104 Yeah it's becoming worse, I'm only 14, hopefully by the time I get older trucking will be a good industry still.
The King's Servant yeah, because you’re an idiot. You can keep that smelly old piece of shot and it’s doghouse and clunky shifter. Keep dreaming about junkyard trucks, rookie.
Rookie? Try that bs on someone who doesn't have 20 yrs and 4 million miles under his belt😂
It's interesting to see the comparison on this. We just re-did one of the first trucks that we sold back in 1961.....creature comforts have definitely changed over the years. :D
That COE was awesome. Was really surprised to see how filthy it was inside, it was so nice and clean on the outside!! I have driven COE’s back in the 80’s and aside from the feeling I got from being high up there and the ease of getting out of tight situations, I preferred hood trucks. Hated having to crawl in the sleeper!! Try putting on a pair of pants!!!! And of course the ride was not always comfortable!!! They are awesome to look at that’s for sure.
I started out in cabovers with Ard trucking in 1986 .. another cool thing about the freighterliner double bunk an the Kenworth double bunk is that you could stand up behind the seats an have privacy putting on your clothes 😁
Cab over is sweet 👍🏼
Wow! frieghtliner is a beauty
Knight: so u want to lease a truck?
Me: yes
Knight : we have a......
Me: I'll take the cab over in the parking lot
Probably has more guts to.
That would be my response too. No eld, no emissions crap.
I hope California is happy for what they done to the trucking industry
I lived out there in the 90s and that state sucks by what they did to trucking I would not haul out there to save my life.
I drove these trucks when they were new.They had air ride cabs and chassis and rode nicely. They were easy to handle, easy to work on, easy to maneuver around and could get in places conventionals could not. I love them and had no problems with them.
Like a Christmas tree except when all the lights come on, it's the stealership that gets the presents.
For me, I still love that old school truck..❤️😍 like my old frieghtliner💪👍✊
I drove those in the early 90’s I can tell you that those trucks were comfortable the set back axle design and the cab air ride in conjunction with the suspension gave a “floating ride” I was raised around trucking I learned to drive a truck when I was 10 just tall enough to touch the pedals that was a 1970 KW logging truck. The old school trucks that were still on the road when that cabover was new was an improvement in driver comfort and productivity.
I put a many of a mile on some just like them. I betcha that it could run further without a breakdown. No regen or sensor problems on the cab over. I went coast to coast on trucks just like that without worry. Also without a cell phone. LOL
My first truck was an 86 Freightliner with a 310 Cat, 9 speed on spring ride. I bought it in '93 for 8k. Sold it a year later and bought a '90 Freightliner cabover with 110" bunk, Serious 60 Detroit 430hp, 13 speed. My brother bought a '94 cabover just like the one in this video with the SB axle. I thought we were truckin in luxury!
I drove several cab overs through the years including a condo like that. Old school to me means no ac or power steering. That puts me back 42yrs
I can't imagine a big rig with no power steering...
I learned how to drive in a long nosed Mack without power at 21yrs old. I spent several years driving things like a White Road Boss, GMC, Mack and Freightliners none of which had power. This was LTL equipment for Roadway, Briggs, CF,PIE etc. I learned how to back those trailers into a dock before I ever took to the street. During my first road test at 21 I had never driven a rig on the street and never around a corner. About an hour later I had a stack of bills to deliver and found myself driving through alleys barely wide enough for the mirrors to clear.
@@RA-ws7it different times that's for sure. I deliver for US Foods and they're just running 10 and 13 speed automatics now. Which is disappointing because I learned on a 10 speed in school. I miss shifting.
Exactly! Old school was no Ac, just little vent window and another one by the driver’s side feet
That freightliner was cool trucks , better smooth ride then the 2019 conventional Peterbil I drive now
But yep you can tell rookies apart from old school drivers!👌🏻
@@robertr8197No driver new to the Truck Industry since 2000. Would last a Half hour in a No Power Steering truck.
You’re basically saying this apple is nothing like that orange
grew up riding with my dad in a c.o.e. during the 70s. ill keep my 379
I grew up sleeping on the great big box you have to climb over but in a 1979 international transtar 2
My dad drove a 77 International Transtar cabover 13 spd Cummins he hauled Blue Ribbon beer mostly driving up North from Missouri to Milwaukee, WI
Hardcore, old school truckers built this country. Bandit who? God bless him.
man i remember tose transtars daddy had 77 had a spice 9 speed and 6v71 i wish i could find that old truck again
Great big box is called a doghouse
Yeah I think this is one of knights safety guys and not someone who has ever driven a truck.
I'd take the old truck any day. My current truck is a t800 with the 38inch sleeper. Same as the old, no space for anything other then clothes and a cooler and that's all I need on the road but I understand some like having more. The whole fleet runs the 680s and get all of the modern comforts while I have the bare minimum. Ive been offered a new truck over and over but not having any of the systems that the new trucks have is the best plus the truck is short and nimble while having all the power I need.
Back then people didn't have to live in a truck to make a living. The sleeper was for when you were tired
Back then most companies kept drivers out 4-8 weeks at a time and when you went home it was only for 2-3 days. I saw a lot of drivers on the pay phone talking to their wife or girlfriend crying because they couldn't be there. I started in 1991 when most companies had cab-overs.
Nice thorough tour
Still have my KW cabover. Been driving it for 19 years. It was my dad's truck. It was rebuilt in 1992. And it still runs and drives good. I driving other trucks to test out for the company or to train new people. The Automatics are better liked driving it. Trust b
me being in Oklahoma City Oklahoma and Dallas Texas. During rush hour. Was easy driving the Automatic. Plus backing up was easy. No thinking is the clutch hot. I was like maybe I'll do this to mine. Swap from a standard transmission to an automatic transmission. I did and it drives easy. When I teach new students it's the 13 speed. Allot have failed others quit. And others walk out when managers tells them who's the trainer. I been offered money to just pass them. I take the money then kick them out.
I must admit those cabover trucks seems they was built to last forever... Not like these new scrap metal trucks they make these days
So you put an automatic in an older cabover? How did they do it and what did they do?
You're not trucking if you're not sticking. Drove an automatic in 2013 and I was glad get back to a stick.
@@paulrichards4888 they last a long time if u take care of them.
@@cjjaxxon stupid auto correct. It still has the stickshift. I have driving other truck's with Automatic transmission. And there better in really heavy traffic.
When I started with Reimer Express way back, cabovers were all they used. Then came the Ford LTL 9000. When it became mostly lease or o/o a lot of Volvo's showed up.
There’s no storage ...... there isn’t any because all you needed was a few tinned goods, a couple gallons of water, some bread and clothing.... back then you could afford to eat twice a day in the truck stops. Mind you, this ol girl was rolling when there were truck stops. Not this crap we get the “privilege “ of stopping at now
10/4 good buddy I just started driving truck and I realized that too the days of cheap meals and mom and pop stops are all gone and done for. I feel cheated but what can you do.
I’ve missed you so much sweetheart
Don't forget about the meth
ricochetey you don’t need to tell anyone you just started driving, we could tell by saying a gay trucker pickup line right off the rip.
I'll take the new truck
He pointed out the cassette player.
He's a man of culture. Gotta keep them tunes bumpin'.
@Andy Helms I believe wheels a spinnin is the term you meant:)
He would use the Cassette deck for holding hi iPhone.
My first truck was a 1989 kenworth k100. I no it’s seems weird but when I hear old school, I think hell it was just yesterday for me. But I must admit it seems both a long time ago and just yesterday. Hard to explain. I’m sure there’s guys out there that feel the same has I do. The cabover didn’t seem small to me. It was fine. But that was a long time ago and we knew no better. It’s simple what we had. I hauled dedicated lowes out of villa rica,ga for southwestern dedicated. It was great!.
:49 those tiny steps would pack with snow in the winter. When you would try to get out of the truck after a 300 mile trip in a snow storm there was no place for your shoes to go so you would have to jump out of the cab. Not fun. Just imagine running teams in that cab over. Crazy right?
oh ya recall them days the late 80s and early 90s i had one with a 425 cat and a 13 speed nice.
I remember International, I believe, added motorized steps that swung out when you opened the doors. Back in the early 90s, I think.
No idea how reliable they were, but they were less steep. Still had the standard steps as well, I'm guessing for when the motor broke.
We did!
Damn that freight cab over was beastlie ! So cool lookin
Slap some new tires on that cab over and I'll take that over this new trash any day.
You'll change your mind after driving through Indiana.
@@spook5756 I'm thinking repair cost these cheap aluminum engineers don't hold up like the older trucks. I'll deal with the winds 11 years of driving I'll get it done.
I don't see too many of those cabovers in service anymore like I use to back in the day.
I’ve always loved those classic cabover trucks. I always dreamed of driving that one. Even when my dad was a truck driver back in the day this was one of the first trucks that he drove.
That cab over nice!
I bought a 1999 freightliner classic with $5000 and the truck is working just fine, actually more than just fine, it work like Champaign, better than my 2015 auto emoticon and my 2013 volvo .
He sounds like hes still in school on a lunch break
I used to drive a flat top COE Freightliner for awhile then moved up to the condo style like this one, except mine had a set forward steer axle. Drove them both all over.
When I moved into the similar truck shown on this video, I bought a microwave stand to put my TV on and put it in the hole behind the passenger side seat. Bought it at Lowes in Terre Haute, IN that I was delivering at. You should have seen the looks the Lowes employees were giving me while I put it together at picinic table they had by the docks. They were puzzled trying to figure out WTH this driver was going to do with a microwave stand in a big truck. I C-clamped it to the matress bulkhead and bungied the TV to the stand. Fit and worked perfectly.
Well... we know who learned to drive on an automatic....
I prefer the dog house 100 percent more reliable and better to back up
Welmer Martinez how’s it survivability after a crash? Compared to the new trucks?
Yes indeed. I learned how to back and drive in a cab over.
Cab overs would eliminate a shit ton of drivers these days faster than automation......half couldnt even climb up and half would break a ankle coming out.
FREEWILL Farms ok boomer
Automation is coming to trucking , level 4 driver supervised automation is being certified at the moment, and level 5 fully driver-less automation is in late stage prototype testing.
No time soon...
Omg that cab over had three pedals what's the third pedal for is that the emergency brake lol.noticed that new kenworth didn't have a third pedal or a shifter
First thing that jumped out at me too. Must be an automatic transmission. Lots of plastic in the interior.
Yup Eaton automatic. Very nice in traffic like Atlanta for example. Still makes as much money as the cabover
back then drivers weren't 400 pounds
So true..and now they’re wearing beards and slippers
lol
I always thought a cabover with extended bunk would make the ultimate o/o rig. If you think about it you could extend the bunk the whole length of the hood of a normal tractor, without increasing wheelbase. Probably could build a little apartment with that kinda space
Best truck I ever drove was a flat top Fld 120. I was 22 and loved every day of it
That new kenworth is gorgeous...WOW
I started in the oldest truck in the fleet. And had to fix it to run it. Tires, oil, air,lights, engine, lube, 1980
Bet you that cab over will out last the new trucks 😁👍
I’ll take that truck for real I love me some cab overs
That FreightLiner was the best looking truck I've ever seen.
I guess I am old. I drove one of those coe just like that one except that it didn't have a tilt steering wheel had only a seven speed transmission only 6 or 7 gauges and spring ride suspension. Also where the fire extinguisher was is actually a holder for your coffee thermos. And I never worried about falling out of the truck. I'm getting old and grumpy. New trucks are becoming a pain in the ass. Started otr in 1991.
Just seen this video,
Reminds me when i took my CDL ROAD TEST IN A OLD BURLINGTON MOTOR CARRIER TRUCK JUST LIKE THIS CAB OVER, MISS THOSE OLD TRUCKS CLIMB OVER THE DOG HOUSE
They all had them Jb , Werner , Heartland , Good video 👍
Bigdaddytrucker Walmart, Schneider and many others
I would take that old freightliner over that kenworth any friggin day... and I'd be just about willing to bet my next months salary that you wouldn't even be able to figure out why....
Manual transmission and pre-dpf/def engine. Plus, no computer=no aobr/elogs.
The cabover is the best truck for port work.
I would still like to drive long tours through the USA with the truck
I worked at Knight body shop when that cabover got painted, it was in 2007 when It got painted, A buddy of mine named Paul painted that truck.
Caleb very cool
He did mention the triangles for a reason on the KW going to be using them a lot with these new trucks, meanwhile the "old truck" will be driving on by.
The ironic thing about what you said in regard to KITT and an indestructible truck...... On Knight Rider, he DID deal with an indestructible truck named “Goliath” and..... drum roll please..... Goliath was an old model cab over truck
Check out the cabovers they use in Europe. The engines lay flat and the inside is like a small apartment. We missing out over here.
Idk when I think of old school trucking. I think of Manual Steering, Map books and twin stick transmissions were if you miss a gear in the mountains your heading for the ramp
That Freightliner Coe, is better quality built, than that KW.. Pull alot more weight, and did the job.. And I guarantee there was alot less falling out of the Coe, than the KW, cause people actually had a brain, and they used it back then..
'Quality built Frightliner,' last time I checked Freighliners had earned the nickname of freightshakers for having poor construction quality
@@JVPTH3MVP Those old Freightliners were built strong. I used to service them back in the 80s.
Well I used to drive those old Freightliners and International Cab overs and you can have them, they were miserable to drive, sleep in and live in, that big box is the doghouse and it's hot as hell all the time with that engine setting under it, noisy as hell and every time you want to do a "real" pretrip you have to jack up the cab and then all your junk in side the cab falls to the windshield, more then once seen guys knock a windshield out all over the parking lot. No thanks, there's a reason those miserable trucks went away.
It was from the Freightliner's spring suspension of the '70's dumbass, not the quality of the truck. I drove a '66 w/a 270 Cummins and a Spicer 4x4 and I would take a beating to have that truck today. Epic117Man is a trucker troll.
@@brownh2orat211 Thing I remember from those Freightliners is the low=air warning was loud enough to wake the dead.
I had the exact same one , FLB 100 ,best truck ever with 11 liter Detroit.
I use to run a one stack Mack, no ac,no power steering, 5spd single axle 48'trailer
40 drops per night and 253 miles per night 5 nights a week.
Plus each store had 6 - 55 gallon drums used for auto parts cores that had to be loaded and unload...
I had a 23 channel cb.
Found a am radio in the trash wired it up and listed to news about desert storm.
Good old days my ass.
Spoken like a true newby.
Lmao my thoughts exactly
Yeah sure bub.
Yeah sure bub.
They still used that Truck when I worked there
I started driving in the early 1980s in a 1980 COE freightliner, that thing was a beast... it would beat you to death. Then I got into a 1983 COE freightliner that was a major improvement but still a brutal ride, then a 1986 freightliner conventional because I agreed to be a trainer, but that single sleeper with a trainee just wasnt working out.
I literally got one of the first ever “set back front axles” Freightliners that came out like that one ☝️. Man there it was a night and day difference between those and the old style ones that sat on the steering tire and tried to pound your kidneys up to your earlobes, it was even more comfortable, than a freightliner conventional. Listening to you describe the interior made me laugh and have a flash back, yeah that’s about all there were to these, not much storage or anything else in the back... but it didn’t matter the dog house was padded and insulted and you didn’t bang the holy hell out of your knees getting in and out of the sleeper😂. The best part was that limp wristed shifter, man that was nice compared to the old school spicers. Or maybe it was the steps? I never fell out of one of those trucks no matter how icy it got, where as the old ones I wouldnt risk it, I would just jump out of the thing and break the landing by holding on to a sweet spot on one of the hand rails on the side 😂
Thanks for showing us that!
Could finagle that top bunk to secure a fridge or plug in cooler and microwave and use it for storage and hit the road.
Not only does the ole iron look good, but for me the interior looks far more conftorble than the one in the new Kenny
Yep, and were trouble free for the most part. New tractors will break an owner operator.
Drove several of those old Freightshaker cabovers with and without the set-back steer axle. You think that's not a lot of space? Pfffft... We thought we had it made back then when we didn't have to get dressed on our backs (something that's even more fun when you suddenly realize that dinner didn't digest so nicely and you have to get dressed fast to make a hasty retreat back inside! lol) I can hear my joints popping these days just thinking about climbing over a doghouse. As for safety, we were safer drivers with a bit more common sense back in those days (we didn't ride on each other's bumpers, watched mirrors instead of cell phones and videos, etc.). We actually drove the trucks instead of the trucks driving us. While I like seeing these pulled out of the weeds these days, I'll stick with my old pre-def 379. Kind of cool to see that they saved this old cabover, though.
Man I would take that old Freightliner and wear you out with that KW!....especially for the work I do.
Roger Lewis You want to wear me out?, Sorry. Not into dudes
What the hell are you talking about....I’m talking about the COE against that KW....get your mind out the gutter man!
Roger Lewis First, I run 4K a month. 2nd. I don’t drive a kw
Ok, you don’t drive a KW...in this video you showed a freightliner cabover and a conventional kw my comments was about the two trucks
Those FLAs actually rode pretty well for being COE, I almost bought one the year before last but I found a beautiful FLT with the extended sleeper, LWB and a 3406 instead, bags all around now and it rides okay
My dad has a 94 peterbilt 377 and never had any big problems with it people he knew had got rid of their old trucks for new trucks they realized that they had made mistake cuz while my dad was rolling down the road they were all on the side of the road waiting for the wrecker man, older trucks is the best truck to really invest in💯
This guy praises the new pampered trucks. I prefer the old school cab over myself more style and character
A truck from when Truck drivers were real men, not the pampered bunch of sooks that sit behind the steering wheel these days.
mexicans that can't read run away truck lane signs
Preach rideing high looking low. In my old freightliner .c.o.e.
Thx. I had one of those old cabovers. Ran it cross country for years and put a little under a million miles on it before I sold it...
You would think they would change the rims to Aluminium you would also think they would clean up the interior
Ciaran Mc manus I’m with you on cleaning the interior, but those old Knight cabovers had the painted steel wheels
Aluminum Wheels don't make a truck
i prefer the look of painted steel wheels over aluminum
new truck is missing stick on floor and fridge
allison automatic garbage is what it has instead, one of the main reason i never liked the t680s
@Jazzy Jas you can still get a good ol Eaton Manual 9,10, 13, I believe still a 15, and 18 speed in any new truck. Except the Volvos.
@@Dirt_Relocation_Specialist another reason is the whole def crap too
Do they still make a 15 spd?
@@Dirt_Relocation_Specialist that's incorrect. You can get a 13 or 18 speed manual in any Volvo. It just isn't common
LOL! If it were “old school” it’d have a 5x4.
I used to drive a 97 coe international. It wasn’t a condo. I don’t missed that thing what so ever. I do wonder where this location is.
Love them new kenworths
I loved that truck. You get i tightest place with that cabover .
I wondered how the bunk was set up. Thanks.
That Cab over is in the 90s its not that old. I much prefer 70s and 80s model trucks mainly because they are simple and reliable
Hard to beat a Peterbilt 359 with a 3406B CAT Engine.
@@davidbrennan5 I agree but I like the old big cams better I'm more familiar with them
Besides the air ride and slightly updated dashboard on that cabover......there wasn't much difference to me from the 1980s.
Between an '89 and '93, the '88 SBA had four steps into the cab, '94 to first quarter of '99 were FLB, second quarter of '99 until December 21st 2018 was the Argosy, with three body generations in North America, but four generations in total. The first and second generation Argosy had the same body, they just redesigned the electrical system on it, and called that the gen II
That's a nice looking cabover.
I'm not a trucker by any means, but if I was, I know enough about the auto industry to make the informed choice to take one older than the 'old' one you showed in this video
Yea, I like those old cab over trucks, but I sure wouldn't want to drive one. They had one at my cdl school (non functioning) and I remember standing there looking at it trying to figure out how I would actually manage to climb up into it with killing myself. I hadn't even considered what I would do if I had managed to get up into it and had to climb back down.
As nice as the new modern trucks are, I’d take the cab over every time, the interior may be outdated, but that can be easily fixed, and you’d be driving something that doesn’t look like all the other trucks on the road!
I swear JB hunt ran nothing but these in the 90’s & early 2000’s Big bright orange cabovers. I always liked them.