This is eastern style that has been mastered in Poland for hundred years under the pressure of very skilful and agile eastern enemies of Poland. It's called cross cutting technique. The term "Germany" was used first time by the Rome (probably by Julius Ceasar) to name the Scythians/Slavian tribes, that was also called Goths/Visigoths. This term means "friends", "fiends to the Rome". Tribes that created Deutschland (known as "Germany"), Anglia and modern Franks came from Persia.
lol i was thinking who would name a polish kid jersey? then i saw them try to spell the rest and oh god, they should've just used george instead and not even bother with kast names
I've never studied polish sabre, is it usually this cut orientated, or is this the style of the two fighters only, and not a representation of polish sabre as a whole?
The sources say it was something like this, however it's just a reconstruction as there is very liitle sources and the Polish fencing school ceased to exist in the XVIIth century. My pure guess is it was very effective on a battlefield, Polish forces were usually heavily outnumbered, this technique would probably allow to chop several people within range in seconds.
I am almost certain that this is just a choreographed demonstration meant more for show than representing Polish saber. Long exchanges with nothing but shoulder powered moulinets are pretty uncommon for obvious reasons.
ekhm, after a year, but still - yes, while, as Piotr Malewski wrote, there ar elittle sources abot that, it is usually said that Polish sabre was very cut-oriented. Maybe it was because of the fact that nobles fough on horseback, maybe because cutting gave some more chance for winning without killing the opponent (which makes sens in duel and in brawl because killing woudl result in bigger punishment and whole family of the dead guy going after you) or whatever reason.
"Influenced by German's school of fencing"? Rally? Germania was a ancient land o Scythians/Slavian (not "Slavs=slaves"), but so called Germanic language is quite young (maybe 1200 years old). This looks like an eastern, or south-eastern style of fighting.
Ci Panowie to maja pojęcie brawo. W temacie innych historycznych walk i tzw. wielkiej historii SZABLi polskiej więcej jest tuu .... ... szablotłuk polski
to not cut themselves... its show up - now imagine it with traning gear that allow to them do whatever they want. plus sire footman sabre is like 60 cm long and as light as possible, you relay on tricks and mobility. In Poland nobles used it for fun (doing wild offensive combo of fuckton of repetitive shoulder cuts we call fun here) and status.
90 cm blades are short? LOL There were short sabers in the beginning, but second and third exchange was done with full length sabers, lnger even than the military sabers they used in competition...
Paweł Andonis Gawralidis Dobrzański herbu Leliwa. Modern Olympic saber has nothing to do with rapier actually. The blades are straight, but they are actually training weapons for real sabers.
This is the most choreographed fight I've ever seen outside of the Star Wars movies. Also, it is clearly not Polish saber fencing. No Western martial arts system has your body moving that much.
@@sewerynradecki6709 I'm aware how unique it is, but it doesn't take a genius or a master fencer to see that this isn't real. Mainly because the only protective gear they have is on their heads. If they were really fighting then they would have had full sparring gear on.
@@matthewcooper4248 You don't need all that protective gear to become good. Do you really think Lichtenauer and Fiore became such masters while rocking a nice spes jacket and a fencing mask? Fechtschule hosted tournaments in the 16th century in which people fenced vigioursly until they gave their opponent a cut on the head. I once read a czech report about one of these and the organizers forbade gloves that came up to the elbows because they deemed them cowardly. No one can deny the usefulness of protective gear, but it isn't the ''be all and end all'' of proper swordsmanship.
@@matthewcooper4248 the point of sparring is to master your cuts, you can see that they know exacly what they are doing. So yeah this is polish Cross technique, and yes they are sparring but retaining their hits, and no, you have no idea what you are criticizing
Oh! My! God!!! Choreography in a 5-minute presentation during a show demonstrating different sword fighting techniques... is there no integrity in the world anymore??? Lament! Clutch-pearls!!!
Not the same, you have to train your eye, thre are aat least 5 directions :P The target is the same all the time, that is why you may have this idea, . The first drill is most primitive, but it is not important, it is the mechanics you have to squize in there.
Imagine a Polish Winged Hussar in his prime fighting to the death with another warrior. What a fucking sight that mustve been.
6:24 thank me later
thanks later
Thanks!
I dont get it?
that's when the action starts.
ty
There is quite heavy lag in audio right here!
Yes, and thank you for fixing it sir, it was really annoying me XD
The names are misspelled , it should be Jerzy Miklaszewski and Szymon Sitko
Ja Cię proszę Panie Brzęczyszczykiewicz o opamiętanie.
This is youtube where truth and accuracy are not welcome.
@@mickmaxtube
Right-on.......!
they're obviously respectfulness morons, ain't nothing new
Too bad the audio is completely off.
There's some heavy audio lag going on
Fantastic !
0:15 O kurwa Korwin!
Jeszcze jak był trochę młodszy :D
Korwin i Malfoy :D
Jo. Dokładnie.
Dokładnie o tym samym pomyślałem! xD
Haha też miałem taką myśl
To anybody wondering. The pants are likely made by High Hill Pants.
Looks like the video game in this PlayStation2 and Sega Saturn
This is eastern style that has been mastered in Poland for hundred years under the pressure of very skilful and agile eastern enemies of Poland. It's called cross cutting technique.
The term "Germany" was used first time by the Rome (probably by Julius Ceasar) to name the Scythians/Slavian tribes, that was also called Goths/Visigoths. This term means "friends", "fiends to the Rome".
Tribes that created Deutschland (known as "Germany"), Anglia and modern Franks came from Persia.
lol i was thinking who would name a polish kid jersey? then i saw them try to spell the rest and oh god, they should've just used george instead and not even bother with kast names
m8 that's not "jersey" it's Jerzy, those guys can't say it properly
Superb....!!
I've never studied polish sabre, is it usually this cut orientated, or is this the style of the two fighters only, and not a representation of polish sabre as a whole?
Yes is Polish sabre fancing style :)
The sources say it was something like this, however it's just a reconstruction as there is very liitle sources and the Polish fencing school ceased to exist in the XVIIth century. My pure guess is it was very effective on a battlefield, Polish forces were usually heavily outnumbered, this technique would probably allow to chop several people within range in seconds.
Polish sabers are in general seen as the most refined sword Europe has
I am almost certain that this is just a choreographed demonstration meant more for show than representing Polish saber.
Long exchanges with nothing but shoulder powered moulinets are pretty uncommon for obvious reasons.
ekhm, after a year, but still - yes, while, as Piotr Malewski wrote, there ar elittle sources abot that, it is usually said that Polish sabre was very cut-oriented. Maybe it was because of the fact that nobles fough on horseback, maybe because cutting gave some more chance for winning without killing the opponent (which makes sens in duel and in brawl because killing woudl result in bigger punishment and whole family of the dead guy going after you) or whatever reason.
I think the audio is a little out of sync
Sztuka Krzyżowa (Cross Cutting Art)
Atlantita Warriors we remnber
"Influenced by German's school of fencing"? Rally? Germania was a ancient land o Scythians/Slavian (not "Slavs=slaves"), but so called Germanic language is quite young (maybe 1200 years old). This looks like an eastern, or south-eastern style of fighting.
Ci Panowie to maja pojęcie brawo. W temacie innych historycznych walk i tzw. wielkiej historii SZABLi polskiej więcej jest tuu .... ... szablotłuk polski
why red and black pantaloons?
I don't know why red and black, but those pantaloons are 'hajdawery', the kind of pants that Polish noblemen were wearing under their 'kontusz' coats
Swordfish XI is the 9th instalment?
That man was bare handed
anyone know what coif/ overlay jerzy is wearing here?
waść machasz jak cepem, its more like and showoff than accurate duel
W temacie najstarszego traktatu o fechtunku szablą polską.. ..szablotłuk polski
holy hell 60% of this video is just talking . ..
In Polish, the letter J is pronounced as a Y.
W temacie najstarszego traktatu o fechtunku szablą polską.....szablotłuk polski
Polish Cross Cutting Art has nothing to do with Germans Sir!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol You dont Know what you talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!
No. Obviously not
Yeah all martial arts develops independently of neighboring countries. That is a known fact... *rolls eyes*
Modern day Polish saber is essentially re-branded messer, so I would have to disagree there.
W temacie najstarszego traktatu o fechtunku szablą polską.. ...szablotłuk polski
When is next event?
at the end of time
They have butchered their names, not only in pronunciation(which happens frequently) but to SPELL them incorrectly is a disgrace!
The bastards! HOW DARE THEY EH? I'm sure it wasn't deliberate, I doubt it was a slight against the Polish mate.
. ... if anyone would like to hear about the great history polish saber . . . szablotłuk polski
the commentator on the right looks like sam hyde
Gajardoni is pronounced "Ga-yar-doe-nee"
I hope it's not sharp
Постановка...
Those are some very short sabers
to not cut themselves... its show up - now imagine it with traning gear that allow to them do whatever they want. plus sire footman sabre is like 60 cm long and as light as possible, you relay on tricks and mobility. In Poland nobles used it for fun (doing wild offensive combo of fuckton of repetitive shoulder cuts we call fun here) and status.
90 cm blades are short? LOL
There were short sabers in the beginning, but second and third exchange was done with full length sabers, lnger even than the military sabers they used in competition...
more like polish cutlass exhibition
This is what was called sabre in 16 centry. Cutlass cames from sabre. "Modern olimpic sabre" cames from rapier
Paweł Andonis Gawralidis Dobrzański herbu Leliwa.
Modern Olympic saber has nothing to do with rapier actually. The blades are straight, but they are actually training weapons for real sabers.
This is the most choreographed fight I've ever seen outside of the Star Wars movies. Also, it is clearly not Polish saber fencing. No Western martial arts system has your body moving that much.
Polish Saber is a quite unique martial art choreography has nothing to do with it
@@sewerynradecki6709 I'm aware how unique it is, but it doesn't take a genius or a master fencer to see that this isn't real. Mainly because the only protective gear they have is on their heads. If they were really fighting then they would have had full sparring gear on.
@@matthewcooper4248 You don't need all that protective gear to become good. Do you really think Lichtenauer and Fiore became such masters while rocking a nice spes jacket and a fencing mask? Fechtschule hosted tournaments in the 16th century in which people fenced vigioursly until they gave their opponent a cut on the head. I once read a czech report about one of these and the organizers forbade gloves that came up to the elbows because they deemed them cowardly. No one can deny the usefulness of protective gear, but it isn't the ''be all and end all'' of proper swordsmanship.
@@matthewcooper4248 the point of sparring is to master your cuts, you can see that they know exacly what they are doing. So yeah this is polish Cross technique, and yes they are sparring but retaining their hits, and no, you have no idea what you are criticizing
Oh! My! God!!! Choreography in a 5-minute presentation during a show demonstrating different sword fighting techniques... is there no integrity in the world anymore??? Lament! Clutch-pearls!!!
Ridiculous.
why so?
Jurek Miklaszewski I'm no expert , but why do it look like they're doing the same cuts over and over again?
Not the same, you have to train your eye, thre are aat least 5 directions :P
The target is the same all the time, that is why you may have this idea, . The first drill is most primitive, but it is not important, it is the mechanics you have to squize in there.
now that i look at it you're right , but i still think that they need to aim at different areas and maybe faint more
bijad alqraish that was not the idea. btw. we were supposed to fall on the floor while fainting? :)
glupkowate niepotzebne machanie jak cepami to zadna walka na miecze czy szable..
Widzę że kolega "ekspert" się znalazł :D. Najpierw poczytaj traktaty walki począwszy od tych średniowiecznych a później się wypowiadaj
W temacie najstarszego traktatu o fechtunku szablą polską .... szablotłuk polski