@@badassmastermax yeah, but they are just tapping each other with the tip of the blade most of the time. In the third place battle i think the cuts nd thrusts were quite more solid. I really liked the aggresive style of the polish guy, he was dancing around and trading all the time, it just felt more realistic, the trades here are very few and very short. I'm not an expert but i think in real life a fight would look much more like the 3rd place duel...
I wouldn't want to see any "saber" sparring with anything longer and straighter than these swords. I think they should tighten up their definition of saber. These swords are straight enough to handle significantly different than the average saber in thrusting.
Both early and late sabres are extremely straight, and since the systems practised here are primarily 19th century it makes sense for them to use a straighter variety.
These are textbook sabers by French standards, who determine sword type by the handle rather than the blade. Even English speaking countries have straight sabers, the American M1913 and British Model 1908 sabers are straight.
Are you using the "ordinary" modern fencing saber as your standard of what a saber is? As that is actually an offshoot of the historical definition of saber, and has almost nothing to do with the weapon that shares it's name.
Some people in You Tube comment sections say stuff "Feders are too light, flimsy and nothing like real Longswords" despite never handling one, which would tell you it's far from light or too flexible, and when the majority of the community, who handle and cut with real Longswords including Sean Franklin and RJ Mckenan who actually did sparring and drills with sharp longswords, agree that a feder is a perfectly reasonable practice simulator for a longsword and besides binds there isn't much difference. The sabres here aren't foils, far from it, but are altered to be safer but still retain the feel, weight and handling characteristics a real sabre, just the weight is more towards the guard and it's slightly more flexible.These practice sabres are far from foils, Foils can't break fingers and hands and don't relatively heavy gloves to use. I can see from your channel you test cut with some cold steel sabres but I feel like if you actually used one of these for sparring or handled one at a HEMA club, your opinion would likely change. They are based off of the old Gymnasium Sabre design which people, who actually used sabres on the battlefield, used as practice weapons for sparring.
19th century sabres were more straight to allow cavalrymen to give the point while charging enemy cavalry on horseback. Curved blade heavy Polish sabres with stirrup guard were from an earlier era but the fencing techniques for those were lost. The treatises we have now are all 19th century sources and so it maeks sense to fence with 19th century sabre replicas.
Audio seems to be extremely off from the time of the video.
so sad Georgians are not so involved in Hema we have pretty descent saber traditions
Is only to start hope to see you at our tournament in Italy
Send some Georgian saber fighters over to Swordfish! I am down to see this
Saber and buckler?
Is there a Georgian sabre source that is most used in Georgia?
6:15 didnt realize we were playing sekiro
Can any one say what sources they study? There is hardly any solid defense this is mostly just hit them first it seems
i dont know how to tell you, that you are wrong. Both are using insanely good distance control and effective lateral movement.
@@badassmastermax yeah, but they are just tapping each other with the tip of the blade most of the time. In the third place battle i think the cuts nd thrusts were quite more solid. I really liked the aggresive style of the polish guy, he was dancing around and trading all the time, it just felt more realistic, the trades here are very few and very short. I'm not an expert but i think in real life a fight would look much more like the 3rd place duel...
damn i confused it with the 2018 3rd place fight, sorry for that.
I wouldn't want to see any "saber" sparring with anything longer and straighter than these swords. I think they should tighten up their definition of saber. These swords are straight enough to handle significantly different than the average saber in thrusting.
Both early and late sabres are extremely straight, and since the systems practised here are primarily 19th century it makes sense for them to use a straighter variety.
shhh everyone, don't tell this guy about olympic sabers...
These are textbook sabers by French standards, who determine sword type by the handle rather than the blade. Even English speaking countries have straight sabers, the American M1913 and British Model 1908 sabers are straight.
"sabers"
Are you using the "ordinary" modern fencing saber as your standard of what a saber is? As that is actually an offshoot of the historical definition of saber, and has almost nothing to do with the weapon that shares it's name.
these foils are hardly saber-like, looks more like small sword
Arthur Wu lots of sabre have a slight curve , they don't need to have a a curve like a tulwar , if you think this is bad look at modern fencing sabres
Some people in You Tube comment sections say stuff "Feders are too light, flimsy and nothing like real Longswords" despite never handling one, which would tell you it's far from light or too flexible, and when the majority of the community, who handle and cut with real Longswords including Sean Franklin and RJ Mckenan who actually did sparring and drills with sharp longswords, agree that a feder is a perfectly reasonable practice simulator for a longsword and besides binds there isn't much difference. The sabres here aren't foils, far from it, but are altered to be safer but still retain the feel, weight and handling characteristics a real sabre, just the weight is more towards the guard and it's slightly more flexible.These practice sabres are far from foils, Foils can't break fingers and hands and don't relatively heavy gloves to use. I can see from your channel you test cut with some cold steel sabres but I feel like if you actually used one of these for sparring or handled one at a HEMA club, your opinion would likely change. They are based off of the old Gymnasium Sabre design which people, who actually used sabres on the battlefield, used as practice weapons for sparring.
19th century sabres were more straight to allow cavalrymen to give the point while charging enemy cavalry on horseback. Curved blade heavy Polish sabres with stirrup guard were from an earlier era but the fencing techniques for those were lost. The treatises we have now are all 19th century sources and so it maeks sense to fence with 19th century sabre replicas.