The most absurd part of this movie is that the climax relies on EVERY wish being renounced. Like, what about orphans who wished their parents were alive? Or people in hospitals wishing their cancer was gone or kids wishing that they had superpowers? Like they're going to renounce THOSE wishes? Hell no!
As awful as it would have been it would have been better if by Max renouncing his wish they did the classic time reverse back to when he first made the wish, because no matter how many people renounce their wish it would only take a few not to for the world to still die.
@@flux_inverter4500 Bruce's problem is that he blames himself for his parents' death. He requested that they leave the opera earlier and they got shot in front of him. Then the one who kills them gets away with it until he's an adult.
And that Orphan had to deal with zombie parents, and being excused of stealing the food that was probably teleported from a near by grocery story. Does no one understand that money’s par logic of the Dreamstone?
Seeing that Bruce Wayne's parents were killed in 1981 and this movie takes place in 1984, there is a legitimate chance that Bruce Wayne wished to revive his parents and Diana told him to renounce his wish, and they just kinda never bothered to talk about it when they first met.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. This movie features a WWI soldier who gave his life fighting “the war to end all wars” in 1918 who comes back in 1984. The whole movie should have been him reading a history book and weeping.
Barbara: "I am finally strong, sexy and special just like Diana!" Maxwell: "But I can give you more. What else do you wish for?" Barbara: "I want to be... a cat."
Didn’t she lose her good characteristics so she just wanted to be a killer and be the strongest and she stopped caring for her beauty I think that’s why she became the Chetah
My personal favorite is how the writers were so inept they literally had Wonder Woman look straight at the camera and deadass *announce* the moral of the story directly to the audience.
Also why isn't Steve freaking the hell out about the fireworks? The last thing he remembers is dying of an explosion in a plane, so you'd think flying directly into explosions... in a plane... might not be a fun time for him
SPOILERS FOR THIS MOVIE AND AVENGERS ENDGAME apparently they brought back chris pine and i know i was sad when he died in the first movie but he sacrificed himself and he was meant to die. Its just like tony stark in endgame. Everyone is sad that hes dead but he sacrificed himself and was meant to die which makes him and chris a good hero and it was disappointing that they brought him back in Wonder woman
@@DJPINK907 you've obviously never read comic books. Rare is the hero who died, then got better at some convenient point in a later story. Hell, Superman died, then got better after a bath in murky water!
me: "a female character being in love is NOT an automatic sign of weakness!! You can have a love life and be a strong woman!" WW84: "are you sure about that?"
eh..its an island of super women. like..they already have their own natural ability. and kids are actually pretty smart and agile. do you bot have toddlers? never seen them create contraptions to climb on? never heard of football prodigies in high school that were kicking ass since they started as little kids? and if they have a home trainer..as dianna is the princess...her mother is a queen...I'm a marine vet, hou dont think my toddler isnt starting to fight train and exercise along with me? my 12yr old is as ripped as most of the 15yr olds in the local high school and already knows how to care for himself. obstacle course was fun times for them. mainly cause it was fun for me so I made one in my yard. I dont train them perse, but I do make sure they dont just sit around doing nothing. so..add that idea to the princess of this magical heroine queendom. it's nottthat hard to just go along with
@@agonleed3841 it’s not about her natural abilities,it’s about her mother not letting her train like an Amazon and Diana having to train behind her back as it was established in the first movie.
@@agonleed3841 I think you misunderstand. In the first Wonder Woman movie, her mother shielded her from training because the more powerful she got, the sooner Ares would find her. She didn’t begin training until she was an adult.
@@jabathepegasus I take it she was shielded from official training. In every movie about a young fighter, that ice ever seen, the young person found a way to train even if not officially. I am assuming a lot, ut I base that on EVERY movie I've ever watched with children being a fighter or advanced fighter. mostly every manga, kung fun movie, or show. I waa just saying I give it a pass based on that. I dont see it as unbelievable. I have to believe in magical lassos and gods and other things, so it's nowhere near a far leap to believe she just learned to train her already superhuman body in some way
This movie was 2020 in a nutshell: looked good leading up to it, but once you got into it, it was terribly disappointing and you wished you had skipped it.
@@THEMilesMorales they’re part of an elite click that gets to see the videos before the rest of us schlubs do. Also, every single goddamn movie in 2020 was unbearable to watch, let alone pay for. I’d rather wake up to a horse head in my bed then watch any current movie.
One per person on the planet. The logic used to defend this ending by people who somehow think this is a good ending to the movie is baffling. "Well, I would have renounced my wish because I wouldn't have trusted some random guy who told me to make the wish, but I would trust the woman's voice who told me to renounce it because she sounds like she knows what she's talking about".
It is insane that Steve went from flying a WW1 fighter plane to a freaking fighter jet. My dad is a commercial pilot and he needs like 500 hours of training just to go from a CRJ-200 to a CRJ-300
Yeah, that bugged the shit out of me. It's more like going from horse & buggies to driving a race car. They are entirely different modes of transportation. It's not just that one plane is more powerful than the other. It's just a ridiculous leap to make. I used to do aqua aerobics 20 years ago... I think I'll compete in the Olympics tonight.
😐 just to play devil's advocate: your dad needs to be legally certified as competent by doing that many hours and being tested and someone could probably "get the gist" in a much shorter period of time but yeah, not "no time at all to learn because I flew something 1000x less complicated"
Handsome Man was the most sympathetic character, hands down! They even had him be nice to Diana at the end, without realising that she sexually assaulted him while her dead boyfriend possessed him.
There is a legitimate criticism to be made for the movie, but this one always bothers me. They said in the movie that your wish comes with a consequence, like Diana loosing her powers the longer Steve is around. I guarantee that if starving people wished for food, they would have gotten E. Coli and died. They wish for their dead parents, they get zombies. etc.
@@irish5662 This is explained to the audience. It doesn’t follow that the millions of people in the movie would also know what the audience knows. But I guess the magic lasso revealed “the truth” to everyone that made a wish. I’m not a comic books person, but I didn’t think that was its purpose: for Diana to reveal “the truth” to people. I’ve always seen it used to force others to truthfully tell what they know. Again, not a comics book person, so maybe that’s in the comics and or previous movie (which I found to be kinda boring and so didn’t pay too much attention)
@@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt but in the comics cheetah was smart and confident already before turning into cheetah. in this movie she becomes more confident and gets talked into becoming an animal mutant by a man that made out with her in a party to steal from her.
" But Steve, you don't have a passport!" No, but the GUY HE'S POSSESSING has a passport! Seriously, it annoyed me how much they glossed over that they just bodysnatched this dude and fucked up his life...
That’s why I think it was dumb for them to have Steve come back in his original body. It’s kinda pointless. With the exception of 2 scenes, the audience still sees Chris Pine as the character. Having Dianna say that Steve doesn’t have a passport practically implies that even the writers forgot about that whole thing
@Robert Monroe Basically, Wonder Woman is a rapist in this movie. Isn't that what you want to see in a Wonder Woman movie, her using somebody sexually without their permission?
The dream stone can materialize things out of nowhere when everyone wished for something, yet it can't just materialize Steve out of nowhere without taking another man's body
Im hoping it was because he is actually still alive elswhere. (That green lantern theory) she wished for the him she remembered to be alive so the stone made a kind of copy of him as she remembered him?
I feel like, if Max had WISHED for everyone to renounce their wish and the magnitude of that wish killed him, the movie would have been less ridiculous. Because there is no way everyone on earth would suddenly renounce their wishes.
It would have made more sense, but that would have killed Max, and only a fool would kill a golden goose before he's made appearances in at least 3 more films building into a cinematic universe....
No, you're being totally reasonable, it's just not very well established that Max doesn't grant every wish until the end, when his own son wanting his father back isn't granted.
True. This also implies that everyone inmediately also saw that the rest of the world was going to hell and that it was necessary for them to renounce their wishes, as if some guy chilling in his farm, content with life and who simply wished for happiness in his child's life would somehow undo that wish because someone told him to. There's also the other side of the spectrum, where some people saw the world collapsing, but would he too selfish to really care. I mean, if someone wished to be able to control the minds of others, is there really any chance that he would give up the power to dominate anyone because of a bit of looting (again, assuming they don't have a nuclear warhead coming straight at them and they know about it)? There's, like issaid in this movie, the problem of contradicting wishes: If two people wish to be the richest people in the world, what happens? Do their bank accounts just keep infinitely filling up, as the wish corrects for the other's fortune endlessly? As a final thought, Cheetah's loss has to have been the stupidest loss, because a moreality change that makes you indifferent to morality would have absolutely no repercussions for the person who made the wish, since no longer being humane also means you don't care about not being humane. If anything, I'd say she got the best deal of all, since the wish simultaneously gave her all she wanted, and made her incapable of feeling bad for anything she might lose, like the homeless guy's friendship, or whatever. Plus, the movie showed us that her life was hell, and that she was doomed to be mocked, ignored and mistreated every day of her life without her wish. With that kind of logic, all anyone can feel for her is sad, because she was honestly simply asking to be treated like a person by others, to not be stepped on by everyone she met.
@Sarah doesn’t matter, it means she lied which was the whole point of her character in this film as she is supposed to be the one who stands for truth. The whole point of the opening scene was to show how she learned that truth is what matters and to not lie. All she had to say was I guess I’ve just never seen you.
The most unbelievable thing is that guys aren't constantly hitting on Barbara. Sure, she's clumsy and has low self-esteem, but what guy would be turned off by that when she's absolutely gorgeous?
@@CountArtha in that atmosphere, her level of clumsiness is more going to be ridiculed. and she works al the time so less time to be hit on in the real world outside of that job
Isn't that like almost *EVERY* CBM with a female villain though?!(Catwoman, Poison Ivy) & teen Rom-Coms(SHE'S ALL THAT, 10 THINGS) You literally switch glasses for contacts & take her bun/ponytail down, NOT ANOTHER TEEN MOVIE LITERALLY said that out loud! I'm AMAZED Diana wasn't 'hiding' behind glasses & a pony-tail in any of these movies, YET!
She's wearing glasses though. Everyone knows glasses make women instantly unattractive and can make a 10/10 be treated as a 0. That's how it works in real life, right? Because it sure dows in every single movie ever.
@@trinaq - Yep, he rocked. He was honestly the only thing that kept me invested in this movie, and I wanted to like WW84, I was wishing for it to be great sooo badly (T__T ) And the impressive part is that the only thing in common Pedro Pascal's Max Lord had in common with the usual Maxwell (it's a bit complicated, as the character has had 2 major phases, first as a good guy, then a villain) is that he has nosebleeds when he uses his powers. Other than that... when it comes to live action, the Max Lords from Smallville and Supergirl were both more faithful to the villainous-era comic books Lord. And I still adore his character. I WISH someone would make a compilation of all his scenes from WW84. , and hopefully some deleted scenes too \o/
Curiously, Captain Kirk and his crew ALSO had an invisible craft in 1984, but they remembered where they parked it. 'Cause, you know, Kirk actually said to everybody, "Remember where we parked".
@@cintronproductions9430 Did the cougheffes exist in that universe? I didn't see anyone wearing a mask. Then again I was drunk while watching the movie so I probably missed it.
I'm surprised you didn't sin the part where Diana and Steve left that taxi driver stranded in the middle of a desert after buying his car. That taxi driver would likely die from extreme heat exhaustion, starvation, or dehydration thanks to them.
Yeah, Diana definitely made some dick-ish moves in this movie. Wishing Steve back for her own benefit and not caring that he is in someone else's body, leaving Barbara to walk at night (seconds after saving her from being raped/assaulted) instead of just walking the rest of the way with her, leaving that cab driver stranded...
@@multifandomharlot When Wonder Woman's boyfriend comes back he is in another man's body that he basically stole and they had sex.....using this other man's body without his consent.
I really had high Hope's for this movie, but as soon as Steve started flying a plane from the 80s with fuel at a museum is when I started getting turned off. Also Diana wasn't allowed to train at this age in the first movie. Her mother didn't officially allow her to train until she was like 14, but in this her mother is totally fine with her being in a dangerous tournament
I thought that! There's this big bruhahaha about her not training and then letting her train at 14 after being found out. Then this says she was in a freaking games at 7?! The games are the same as the training. They can't even keep to their own story.
@@apurba4578 But radar detects mass through electromagnetic waves -- nothing to do with visible stimuli. If the two characters are interacting with the plane and its controls even when invisible, then it must have mass; if it doesn't have mass, then they shouldn't be able to sit in and fly it. The writers were damned either way on this one.
@@coolidgedollar2154 electromagnetic waves ARE light. While it is in a spectrum that the eyes can't see, it is exactly the same phenomena. The range of visible light is just a specific frequency/wavelength range of electromagnetic waves (light waves can be equally defined by frequency or wavelength as their velocity is fixed (speed of light) = [frequency]X[wavelength]. Neither electromagnetic waves nor radar have anything to do with mass. Radar does work by electromagnetic waves though. As such, it might be invisible to radar, and since this the whole scene was magical nonsense, it would be a weird hill to die on
The second this movie started the "you can wish for anything (but we are supposed to turn it down because wish granting is selfish)" and the "revoke your wish" I turned to my sister and said what happened to the kids who wanted daddy to stop hurting them and mommy to come back. what about the hungry kids who wanted food or the sick kids who wanted to be better. what about them?
I really wanted to see the cut scene where Handsome Man is staring at the huge wet spot on his bed and asking, "WTF happened here?" when the Secret Service and FBI kick his door down and arrest him for stealing a jet plane from the Smithsonian and breaking into the White House.
@@arisucheddar3097 From the looks of _Handsome Man's_ wardrobe it is very likely he is gay. This would mean Diana not only forced him to have sex against his will but also against his nature. P.S. This movie was written and directed by a _feminist._
Seems Wonder Woman is bad at understanding technology She doesn’t know breaking cameras are pointless The plane that Steve and her hijacks needs fuel The fact that invisibility and radar are completely different things
@@TheRatsintheWalls electromagnetic waves and photons are not the same. The jet is not intangible as shown that they can sit on it. Meaning the waves will bounce off it and be sent back to the radar, making them trackable.
@@HullsColby Exactly. This whole invisibility "power" over flying jets was written into the wonder woman comics in like the 1920's - the point being, I doubt the writers thought it through that much.
@@TheRatsintheWalls Oh, sorry that I didn't reply sooner. Well, even if they were really untrackable, I'm pretty sure being a complete void of nothingness inside the radar is not good either. The reason stealth aircrafts can be stealthy is because besides being outside the radar via altitude, they are also designed to be so. Being a big patch of nothingness in a 3d space would arouse suspicion. Unless there's also a fix to that.
" Renounce your wishes. " And what about people who asks to die and go to heaven ? Like they're chilling in heaven and some angels bring them back to earth so they can renounce their wish ? And most of all, I can't believe no one just joked in front of the TV saying " I wish the world explode " or something.
Even cinema sins misses that Dianna only goes out with Barbara after learning about the magical item in her possession. Seems like Dianna like Max cared more about that than Barbara.
Yeah, I noticed that too. They really made Diana a bad person in this movie...the script for this movie was so bad, this is why the WB needed to offer Feige a billion dollars to run the DCCU, whatever you think about the Marvel v. the DC movie wars, there is no way a script like this ever gets past an initial draft let alone makes it to film in Marvel.
The one thing this film gets right is that Diana is a terrible person. If it had stripped her of her powers and made her confront what little she is without those abilities she never earned or worked for, it could have been decent. But that would require a director and screenwriter with ability and recasting the lead.
So the one thing in this movie has gotten me curious - everyone had to renounce their wish in order for everything to go back to normal right? So...that guy who wished for a coffee at the start, did he renounce his wish? If he did, will the coffee just vanish leaving him still thirsty? And if he doesn't, is the world doomed - just from a cup of coffee?
You left out the biggest sin of all. In the first film, it’s a big deal that Diana was training in secrecy from her mother during her childhood, and now this film features her doing warrior triathlons in front of her mother Also also, Diana looks at the old pic of her and Chris Pine like it’s the last time she’s seen him and obviously it wasn’t if they spent time together in 1984
that "i'll always love you Diana no matter where I am" literally made my entire family burst out laughing. why did he say that in the background offscreen after she left?
@@irish5662 No where is that in the movie, but if it helps make one of the worst movies of the last 20 years slightly better, I guess we can make believe.
@@SlevinCCX They said if you destroy the stone the wishes in turn are undone. When he renounced his own wish to be the stone, the stone was in a sense 'destroyed' and therefore the wishes are undone. Also, while the movie is not particularly good, it does not rank among the worst movies of the last 20 years. Not even close. That would put it among Last Airbender and the Happening. It's a bad movie but has its' moments. The other two are cringe from beginning to end.
@@irish5662 "When he renounced his own wish to be the stone, the stone was in a sense 'destroyed' and therefore the wishes are undone." According to you, not the movie.
@@SlevinCCX We both saw him renounce his wish and heard them say that if you destroy the stone you undo the wishes so actually it is according to the movie.
Here's the sin you missed, if Max Lord renounces his wish, wouldn't all the other wishes that have been granted since he got his wish granted being null and void? Because the wishes were made through him. And if he can no longer Grant the wishes, anything he would have granted would automatically vanish
That's not a sin - that's the literal only explanation for how every wish disappeared. It's nice to show people renouncing their wishes, but if they refused too, it would be taken away anyway.
@@rokeYouuer I would like to think so as well, but you know the way they do movies. The world will still be destroyed because ONE kid didn't give up their wish to have that teddy bear! LOL
@@rokeYouuer which means it's still a sin. Since the wishes would vanish anyway that entire scene of Diana convincing the world(which is absurd already) is pointless. All she needed was for max to renounce his.
16:37 They thought they could get away with having The Mandalorian himself in the same scene as the “Star Wars” name-drop. Dang it Warner Bros, STAY IN YOUR LANE!
I'm a vegan, and 7:17 made me laugh so hard that I spit all over the cellphone screen and my mom (who was sitting next to me) told me to pipe down already.
It’s so she looks taller. See all the other female superheroes who wear heels so not to look so short next to the men. Black Widow, that blue chick from Guardians of the Galaxy, and Black Canary.
Orphans getting either zombie parents for abusive parents. Becoming a super powers monster. And cures cancer patients also suffer some kind of consequence. The Stone takes something with every wish. Max was only being kept a live because he was taking the health of life force of other people making wishes.
I don’t think she did though. I think when Maxwell lord denounced his wish of being the stone it only removed the Cheetah part of her. But she still met her wish of wanting to be more like Diana
The guy managing to steal the gem while making out with Barbara was super ridiculous! When watching the movie with my dad, I said "What, is he going to put it in his pocket?! She'll say 'are you happy to see me, or are you trying to STEAL MY GIANT ROCK!' "
Which is extra stupid because that station has different platforms for different pairs of lines. Like they could've focused on the green and yellow platform without showing the silver line at all.
this movie was one of those movies where your just left with nothing but confusion over how the movie ended up being so bad, with the first one being really good.
My favorite part about this movie was when the people were renounceing there wishes as. The movie showed a clip of a factory smog going back into the pipes, what blaster looks at a factory and wishes “man it would be cool if factory’s emitted more carbon emissions, yeah.... now that’s epic”
I don't know if I could with for anything I would wish for more black smoke but I am also a b##ch Ofcourse I would not renounce my wish for more smog either because again am b##ch.
The payphone not working for international calls is SPOT ON. We had to go to a postal office with special phones for that. Street phones could barely work IN THE CITY LOL.
No sin for the amount of change that would be required for that length of call either even it that long distance call was possible! Their call should’ve been getting interrupted every minute asking for more quarters.
Well there's also showing Barbara seeing her new abilities but barely experimenting with them.Electro in ASM 2 when he debuted got more screen time and wasn't limited to just one scene in the movie.
“Would you like to see my futon” “When Chris pine says this it is sexy, but when I say it it is creepy and they revoke my library card” That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard in a while
What is it called when you have physical relations with someone’s body when they’re unconscious and unable to consent? Cause that’s what Wonder Woman did to that random guy who Steve Trever sent to the sunken place.
That’s rape my friend, but since it’s a beautiful woman doing to a man who is possessed by the dude she loves, a lot of people were okay with it. Were the genders reversed, the outcry would be more huge.
Imagine if she ends up being pregnant with his baby and he would have to pay child support even though he has absolutely no memory of any physical relations with her.
Here’s some sins you missed which easily deserves 100 sins 1. When Diana is in the water scene shocking tiger thing she is wearing metal armor with her head exposed, how is she not shocked by it? 2. She flies because she B E L I V E S, does that mean everyone who beloved they could fly can fly? Or what? 3. She grabs lightning, she grabs pure energy with a lasso which isn’t instantly caught on fire
Before anybody comments that he did, let me clarify: yes he did say 'scene does not contain Mungojerrie.' It should have been followed with 'Also movie intentionally reminds me of 2019's theatrical release of Cats. Thanks movie, here's a 100 sins.'
You really got me thinking now, what did she attach the lasso when she took off to learn how to fly after she renounced Steve. Bc that was pretty hilarious what you said about it being his soul XD!
"She's wearing wedges, the stupid heels ever to be created. And we're supposed to let her save us" 1 Min later "No one is more or less valuable based on their footwear choice"
@@themustar601; obviously, you missed so many of the clearly green square reflections? This could be edited out very easily. Or like the last reply, without lenses. She doesn’t need glasses, as shown in the moments after she stated “I guess all this reading cured my eyesight.” I really hope you’re being sarcastic...
People who wear prescription glasses usually have an anti reflection coating on the lenses, it is green looking in the light and can make green shapes based on what they’re looking at. I’m actually glad she had the green, most film makers let actors wear glasses with no lenses. Like in Big Bang Theory Leonard and Bernadette’s glasses both are just the frames.
@Robert Monroe it’s... literally conservative propaganda? It’s pro israeli and ignores that while Gal Gadot was serving in the IDF she murdered two Palestinian children. Conservatives are notoriously pro Israel
Also also, Steve, a WWI pilot, would probably have some serious PTSD from anti-aircraft fire. He wouldn't go UwU seeing and hearing fireworks explode all around his plane.
In every action scene, Wonder Woman looks like the different colored object that gets interacted with in the middle of the same colored background in old cartoons.
@@ninjanibba4259 It looks cropped in via windows paint and in the scenes where everything is CG the problem is his face. You can like it all you want, but if the artist in charge was payed more then 5$/hour he was over payed.
"Whether or not you can see it, RADAR bounces off metal" RADAR is EM reflections. Light is EM reflections. If it's "invisible" to all EM, then it would be invisible to both sight and RADAR, as they are essentially the same. Also, did you see it go "invisible"? It was more like translucent, man.
Most unbelievable part of the whole movie is Gal Gadot walking into the party wearing that white dress and getting basically ignored, followed by Kristen Wiig walking in and getting drooled all over.
This movie was such a let down. The first one was fun (albeit a little "woke"), the story wasn't great but atleast made some sort of sense, and the acting w as a little bad, but still it was a fun movie. But this movie wasn't fun. It wasn't funny. There was no good acting. The story made zero sense. The "fighting" looked like a couple middle schoolers slap fighting in transformers cosplay. The cinematography was just BAD. This movie was just so bad.
@@Jrseydevil first movie was by far the best dceu movie they’ve made. This one was really really bad, but hilariously, I still have it as my third fav dceu movie behind shazam, because the rest of the movies were such heaping piles of garbage lol.
The most absurd part of this movie is that the climax relies on EVERY wish being renounced. Like, what about orphans who wished their parents were alive? Or people in hospitals wishing their cancer was gone or kids wishing that they had superpowers? Like they're going to renounce THOSE wishes? Hell no!
Yup. Not 100% people will renounce their wish
As awful as it would have been it would have been better if by Max renouncing his wish they did the classic time reverse back to when he first made the wish, because no matter how many people renounce their wish it would only take a few not to for the world to still die.
Ok, that sounds sadistic and cruel.
I agree, when's the movie about a superpowered little kid or godlike being that they opened up the possibility for?
I mean I think I would give up my wish if it meant stopping what could be the Apocalypse
And Does it still matter since Mando gave up his wish?
*Diana* : _Don't be selfish. Renounce your wish._
*The starving orphan kid who just wish for his parents back and some food* °_°
Hmmm... 1984, so does losing his parents twice explain why Batman is so pissed?
@@flux_inverter4500 Bruce's problem is that he blames himself for his parents' death. He requested that they leave the opera earlier and they got shot in front of him. Then the one who kills them gets away with it until he's an adult.
Their parents back AND some food? It sound easy to renounce that wish.
People in devastated third world countries restored by those wishes: 🖕
And that Orphan had to deal with zombie parents, and being excused of stealing the food that was probably teleported from a near by grocery story. Does no one understand that money’s par logic of the Dreamstone?
Seeing that Bruce Wayne's parents were killed in 1981 and this movie takes place in 1984, there is a legitimate chance that Bruce Wayne wished to revive his parents and Diana told him to renounce his wish, and they just kinda never bothered to talk about it when they first met.
Wait even Harry’s parents died in ‘81
@@keisalex674 it was the year franco columbu won the mr olympia - a travesty !
😂 true
“Renounce your wish”
“No”
Joker is set in a different universe
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. This movie features a WWI soldier who gave his life fighting “the war to end all wars” in 1918 who comes back in 1984. The whole movie should have been him reading a history book and weeping.
Barbara: "I am finally strong, sexy and special just like Diana!"
Maxwell: "But I can give you more. What else do you wish for?"
Barbara: "I want to be... a cat."
She basically wished to be a furry, she was truly ahead of her time.
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Didn’t she lose her good characteristics so she just wanted to be a killer and be the strongest and she stopped caring for her beauty
I think that’s why she became the Chetah
She’s a goddamn furry
Okay but let's be honest, doesn't everyone want to be a cat?
My personal favorite is how the writers were so inept they literally had Wonder Woman look straight at the camera and deadass *announce* the moral of the story directly to the audience.
that is so dammn cringe
I didn’t mind really. Felt like a silver age comic. The execution for everything else was terrible though.
That lady Patty Jenkins wrote it. Its a TERRIBLE script lmfao
@@nukiesduke6868 wasn’t the first one directed by a woman? Don’t bring gender into this please
@@reannasheehy4602 A broken clock is right twice a day..
Also why isn't Steve freaking the hell out about the fireworks? The last thing he remembers is dying of an explosion in a plane, so you'd think flying directly into explosions... in a plane... might not be a fun time for him
Dang! I totally missed that. Good memory there.
@@davidmcmahon4633 Uh no, that's Tony Stark.😐
SPOILERS FOR THIS MOVIE AND AVENGERS ENDGAME
apparently they brought back chris pine and i know i was sad when he died in the first movie but he sacrificed himself and he was meant to die. Its just like tony stark in endgame. Everyone is sad that hes dead but he sacrificed himself and was meant to die which makes him and chris a good hero and it was disappointing that they brought him back in Wonder woman
@@DJPINK907 Ah. I've already seen Infinity War and Endgame but this helps, thanks.😁
@@DJPINK907 you've obviously never read comic books. Rare is the hero who died, then got better at some convenient point in a later story. Hell, Superman died, then got better after a bath in murky water!
me: "a female character being in love is NOT an automatic sign of weakness!! You can have a love life and be a strong woman!"
WW84: "are you sure about that?"
not being able to let go and move on is the weakness. not love
@@agonleed3841 The worst part is that they even acknowledge it by having Steve mention how ridiculous it is that she hasn't gotten over him.
@@strahinjagov ouch dang
😂😂😂😂
And the fact how fast she moved on as her aunt died with whom she grew up makes it for me worser than it is
You missed the sin where Diana wasn’t allowed to train like a warrior until she was a teenager,but here she is competing against other Amazon’s
Yeah I was thinking that, too! Lol
eh..its an island of super women. like..they already have their own natural ability. and kids are actually pretty smart and agile. do you bot have toddlers? never seen them create contraptions to climb on? never heard of football prodigies in high school that were kicking ass since they started as little kids?
and if they have a home trainer..as dianna is the princess...her mother is a queen...I'm a marine vet, hou dont think my toddler isnt starting to fight train and exercise along with me?
my 12yr old is as ripped as most of the 15yr olds in the local high school and already knows how to care for himself. obstacle course was fun times for them. mainly cause it was fun for me so I made one in my yard.
I dont train them perse, but I do make sure they dont just sit around doing nothing.
so..add that idea to the princess of this magical heroine queendom.
it's nottthat hard to just go along with
@@agonleed3841 it’s not about her natural abilities,it’s about her mother not letting her train like an Amazon and Diana having to train behind her back as it was established in the first movie.
@@agonleed3841 I think you misunderstand. In the first Wonder Woman movie, her mother shielded her from training because the more powerful she got, the sooner Ares would find her. She didn’t begin training until she was an adult.
@@jabathepegasus I take it she was shielded from official training. In every movie about a young fighter, that ice ever seen, the young person found a way to train even if not officially.
I am assuming a lot, ut I base that on EVERY movie I've ever watched with children being a fighter or advanced fighter.
mostly every manga, kung fun movie, or show.
I waa just saying I give it a pass based on that. I dont see it as unbelievable.
I have to believe in magical lassos and gods and other things, so it's nowhere near a far leap to believe she just learned to train her already superhuman body in some way
This movie was 2020 in a nutshell: looked good leading up to it, but once you got into it, it was terribly disappointing and you wished you had skipped it.
That is the very definition lol
13 hours i just got it
Huh. I would have gone with: A flaming disaster that raises ethical and moral questions.
@@THEMilesMorales they’re part of an elite click that gets to see the videos before the rest of us schlubs do.
Also, every single goddamn movie in 2020 was unbearable to watch, let alone pay for. I’d rather wake up to a horse head in my bed then watch any current movie.
You could say the same thing about mortal kombat
This movie needed about a 100000 more sins for the "renounce your wish" ending
One per person on the planet.
The logic used to defend this ending by people who somehow think this is a good ending to the movie is baffling. "Well, I would have renounced my wish because I wouldn't have trusted some random guy who told me to make the wish, but I would trust the woman's voice who told me to renounce it because she sounds like she knows what she's talking about".
Be careful, that might break the sin counter...
Yeah that part didn't make any sense and very stupid in my opinion
There would be no way in hell i would renounce my wish.
"I wished my son wouldn't die of cancer...so wait, I'm the bad guy now if I don't renounce it?"
It is insane that Steve went from flying a WW1 fighter plane to a freaking fighter jet. My dad is a commercial pilot and he needs like 500 hours of training just to go from a CRJ-200 to a CRJ-300
Yeah, that bugged the shit out of me. It's more like going from horse & buggies to driving a race car. They are entirely different modes of transportation. It's not just that one plane is more powerful than the other. It's just a ridiculous leap to make. I used to do aqua aerobics 20 years ago... I think I'll compete in the Olympics tonight.
😐 just to play devil's advocate: your dad needs to be legally certified as competent by doing that many hours and being tested and someone could probably "get the gist" in a much shorter period of time but yeah, not "no time at all to learn because I flew something 1000x less complicated"
Oh, yes, this was the thing that bugged me most on initial viewing. There is no way in HELL Steve knows how to operate a JET ENGINE!!!
Handsome Man was the most sympathetic character, hands down! They even had him be nice to Diana at the end, without realising that she sexually assaulted him while her dead boyfriend possessed him.
Yep. 🙊🤦🏼♀️
That was rape
I'm sorry, what?
This movie was fucked up!
Correct.
I've seen the full movie and he could've easily sinned so many more scenes if he wanted to.
Found ya
ITS THAT GUy
Yeah
Oh, ok
Well his bs-ometer quit part way through the movie so there is that
"Renounce your wishes."
Kids with recently cured cancer/resurrected parents: lmao no
bruce wayne who have just wished for his parents to be alive: 👁👄👁
@@kylabacerdo2607 lmao that even worse
There is a legitimate criticism to be made for the movie, but this one always bothers me. They said in the movie that your wish comes with a consequence, like Diana loosing her powers the longer Steve is around. I guarantee that if starving people wished for food, they would have gotten E. Coli and died. They wish for their dead parents, they get zombies. etc.
What is someone wished for rape to end. Steve would be free and WonderWoman would be wished out of existence.
@@irish5662
This is explained to the audience. It doesn’t follow that the millions of people in the movie would also know what the audience knows. But I guess the magic lasso revealed “the truth” to everyone that made a wish. I’m not a comic books person, but I didn’t think that was its purpose: for Diana to reveal “the truth” to people. I’ve always seen it used to force others to truthfully tell what they know. Again, not a comics book person, so maybe that’s in the comics and or previous movie (which I found to be kinda boring and so didn’t pay too much attention)
It’s like somebody pitched this movie as a joke then proceeded to go on vacation and when he came back they stared working in it
Legend has it, it was the April fools joke taken too seriously.
If you think about it though the story and plot is very much in line with what a comic written around that time would be like
@@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt A bad movie isn’t excused because it’s similar to the comics
Ikr this video is better than the movie by a lot
@@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt
but in the comics cheetah was smart and confident already before turning into cheetah. in this movie she becomes more confident and gets talked into becoming an animal mutant by a man that made out with her in a party to steal from her.
I dont know why but Pedro Pascals delivery of the line "Life is good, but it can be better." is just hilarious.
because people made it a meme
@@DigitalHeliumJumper no....he IS the meme
It's a good meme lol, and wait...
Isn't it a song?
@@jadenmckinney3489 His accent makes it really memey
He got a bad role and he just made it the best he could
" But Steve, you don't have a passport!"
No, but the GUY HE'S POSSESSING has a passport!
Seriously, it annoyed me how much they glossed over that they just bodysnatched this dude and fucked up his life...
That’s why I think it was dumb for them to have Steve come back in his original body. It’s kinda pointless. With the exception of 2 scenes, the audience still sees Chris Pine as the character. Having Dianna say that Steve doesn’t have a passport practically implies that even the writers forgot about that whole thing
@Robert Monroe Basically, Wonder Woman is a rapist in this movie. Isn't that what you want to see in a Wonder Woman movie, her using somebody sexually without their permission?
Indeed
@Robert Monroe thats what you get if you dont involve snyder
R a p e
The dream stone can materialize things out of nowhere when everyone wished for something, yet it can't just materialize Steve out of nowhere without taking another man's body
Writers choose to write what they did, so probably says more about what they wanted then what would have been less troublesome.
So does that mean that all the kids who wished their parents back got them in someone's else body.
Im hoping it was because he is actually still alive elswhere. (That green lantern theory) she wished for the him she remembered to be alive so the stone made a kind of copy of him as she remembered him?
@@user-ns5zn1zl1z I doubt the directors are really working as a connected universe anymore
@@lisajenkins4416 Whoops!
I feel like, if Max had WISHED for everyone to renounce their wish and the magnitude of that wish killed him, the movie would have been less ridiculous. Because there is no way everyone on earth would suddenly renounce their wishes.
It would have made more sense, but that would have killed Max, and only a fool would kill a golden goose before he's made appearances in at least 3 more films building into a cinematic universe....
I would never have renounced my wishes lol
max cant make wishes he is the granter of wishes. Well yes he can take what he wants from other people but no one else can renounce everyones wish
@@aondutta325 it’s all up to the script was my point. It would have made more sense
Especially all the dead people. I mean, that woman that guy wished that would drop dead ain't renouncing her wish for him to get deported...😅
"This also presumes EVERYONE would be wishing for something selfish" THANK you, people look at me like I'm crazy when I bring this plot hole up.
No, you're being totally reasonable, it's just not very well established that Max doesn't grant every wish until the end, when his own son wanting his father back isn't granted.
Trust me, everyone accept the writers and director for this movie thought of that.
Some old man wished for a farm. That isn’t really selfish
@@ogbutlikeohgee7563 No he was clearly taking a a shortcut and it wasn't "tHE trUTH" god screw this sequel.
True. This also implies that everyone inmediately also saw that the rest of the world was going to hell and that it was necessary for them to renounce their wishes, as if some guy chilling in his farm, content with life and who simply wished for happiness in his child's life would somehow undo that wish because someone told him to. There's also the other side of the spectrum, where some people saw the world collapsing, but would he too selfish to really care. I mean, if someone wished to be able to control the minds of others, is there really any chance that he would give up the power to dominate anyone because of a bit of looting (again, assuming they don't have a nuclear warhead coming straight at them and they know about it)? There's, like issaid in this movie, the problem of contradicting wishes: If two people wish to be the richest people in the world, what happens? Do their bank accounts just keep infinitely filling up, as the wish corrects for the other's fortune endlessly? As a final thought, Cheetah's loss has to have been the stupidest loss, because a moreality change that makes you indifferent to morality would have absolutely no repercussions for the person who made the wish, since no longer being humane also means you don't care about not being humane. If anything, I'd say she got the best deal of all, since the wish simultaneously gave her all she wanted, and made her incapable of feeling bad for anything she might lose, like the homeless guy's friendship, or whatever. Plus, the movie showed us that her life was hell, and that she was doomed to be mocked, ignored and mistreated every day of her life without her wish. With that kind of logic, all anyone can feel for her is sad, because she was honestly simply asking to be treated like a person by others, to not be stepped on by everyone she met.
Somewhere out there,
Young Bruce Wayne wished to have his parents back.
Oh shit XDDDDDDDDD
Ouch
That would explain why bruce is a murdering psychopath in bvs lol, he lost his parents twice.
Womp womp womp woooooooomp.
Yeah, but he would have also made the choice to renounce his wish because he's a hero.
Diana: "I dont have a TV."
Cut to next scene where she has a secret room with 15 TVs
@Sarah doesn’t matter, it means she lied which was the whole point of her character in this film as she is supposed to be the one who stands for truth. The whole point of the opening scene was to show how she learned that truth is what matters and to not lie. All she had to say was I guess I’ve just never seen you.
@@harrisonbaylor1432 All superheroes must lie, to protect their secret ID. It is inherent.
@@shayliakara not lying unless someone were to ask if she was Wonder Woman. Keeping silent is not the same as lying in this situation.
beeoch was lying.
I think she can also send Max's ego and doesn't want to play up to it.
The most unbelievable thing is that guys aren't constantly hitting on Barbara. Sure, she's clumsy and has low self-esteem, but what guy would be turned off by that when she's absolutely gorgeous?
Plenty of guys zero in on girls with low self-esteem - especially the nerdy types who would work at the Humanities department of the Smithsonian.
@@CountArtha in that atmosphere, her level of clumsiness is more going to be ridiculed. and she works al the time so less time to be hit on in the real world outside of that job
Isn't that like almost *EVERY* CBM with a female villain though?!(Catwoman, Poison Ivy) & teen Rom-Coms(SHE'S ALL THAT, 10 THINGS) You literally switch glasses for contacts & take her bun/ponytail down, NOT ANOTHER TEEN MOVIE LITERALLY said that out loud! I'm AMAZED Diana wasn't 'hiding' behind glasses & a pony-tail in any of these movies, YET!
Its just plot device type of nonsense
She's wearing glasses though. Everyone knows glasses make women instantly unattractive and can make a 10/10 be treated as a 0. That's how it works in real life, right? Because it sure dows in every single movie ever.
The “life is good, but can be better” quote is now stuck in my head and won’t get out
Yep, say whatever you like about this movie, but Pedro Pascal absolutely owned his role, unashamedly giving his best Large Ham performance!
This quote: 'your head is good... but it can be better'
It is a virtue of life I say
If there's anything in this movie that granted a sin removal, it's Pedro Pascal delivering that quote. He's that good.
@@trinaq - Yep, he rocked. He was honestly the only thing that kept me invested in this movie, and I wanted to like WW84, I was wishing for it to be great sooo badly (T__T )
And the impressive part is that the only thing in common Pedro Pascal's Max Lord had in common with the usual Maxwell
(it's a bit complicated, as the character has had 2 major phases, first as a good guy, then a villain)
is that he has nosebleeds when he uses his powers.
Other than that... when it comes to live action, the Max Lords from Smallville and Supergirl were both more faithful to the villainous-era comic books Lord.
And I still adore his character.
I WISH someone would make a compilation of all his scenes from WW84. , and hopefully some deleted scenes too \o/
The invisible jet deserved more sins. It's probably never used again because she couldn't find where she parked it after the events of this film.
LMAO....😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Kept flying into birds 🐦
Curiously, Captain Kirk and his crew ALSO had an invisible craft in 1984, but they remembered where they parked it. 'Cause, you know, Kirk actually said to everybody, "Remember where we parked".
Invisible jet should not make u undetectable by radar because radar is used for thing we can't see.
You can not tell me that everybody in the entire world recanted there wish, I just can’t believe that.
Totally, that's the most unbelievable thing. What if someone had wished for world peace, or for a loved one to come back to life?
@@trinaq Or what if someone wished for the Cough Cough to be gone?
@@cintronproductions9430 or what if someone wished to be dead?
Max Lord renounced his wish of granting wishes, making all wish asked of him null & void.
@@cintronproductions9430 Did the cougheffes exist in that universe? I didn't see anyone wearing a mask. Then again I was drunk while watching the movie so I probably missed it.
I'm surprised you didn't sin the part where Diana and Steve left that taxi driver stranded in the middle of a desert after buying his car. That taxi driver would likely die from extreme heat exhaustion, starvation, or dehydration thanks to them.
Yeah, Diana definitely made some dick-ish moves in this movie. Wishing Steve back for her own benefit and not caring that he is in someone else's body, leaving Barbara to walk at night (seconds after saving her from being raped/assaulted) instead of just walking the rest of the way with her, leaving that cab driver stranded...
Holy sh*t I forgot about that!
This movie is beyond Cinema Sins abilities. Go find the efap.
(Have a weekend and lots of snacks because they do both WW fiascos back to back.)
Best "He survived this" ever sin? 😆
For sure! Forget Wonder Woman's golden armour, most of these characters survive attacks that they realistically wouldn't thanks to Plot Armour!
What da- 12 hrs ago?!
😂😂😂😂
12 hours ago ???????
@Flash rex 7:24
There were so many bad moments you left out! Even 10 times the sin count would not match this movie's craptitude.
didn't even sin her raping the guy too
@@egacide Yeah that most definitely was rape wasn't it, but it's a guy so no one cares. Don't you love the world we live in?
@@egacide wait WHAT-- that happened?!
This film almost 3 hours long, like why?
@@multifandomharlot When Wonder Woman's boyfriend comes back he is in another man's body that he basically stole and they had sex.....using this other man's body without his consent.
“Everything wrong with WW84”
*Plays the whole movie*
There was literally not one ghood part
Yes, aside from Pedro Pascal hamming it up, you could literally insert all 2 hours and 30 minutes in this video!
"everything´s wrong with WW84"
@@ChineduOpara ok yea that was actually pretty cool
@@ChineduOpara Admittedly, yeah, it was, unless you were sitting with the people in the event. You wouldn't see shit
"HOLY SHIT, YOURE THE MANDALORIAN!!" Is the best line reading I've seen today
Also hands down best part of the movie.
Cinemasins: *SIN*
I really had high Hope's for this movie, but as soon as Steve started flying a plane from the 80s with fuel at a museum is when I started getting turned off. Also Diana wasn't allowed to train at this age in the first movie. Her mother didn't officially allow her to train until she was like 14, but in this her mother is totally fine with her being in a dangerous tournament
Thanks for pointing out how much more bullshit that was.
I thought that!
There's this big bruhahaha about her not training and then letting her train at 14 after being found out. Then this says she was in a freaking games at 7?!
The games are the same as the training.
They can't even keep to their own story.
That wasn't a "dangerous tournament", more like our equivalent of a triathlon.
@@randallflagg3700 Yeah that shit is safe for a kid.
@Latest Obsession the first one was a good movie. We hate the second one because it's a terrible movie.
"Life is good, but it can be better."
"Holy s***! You're the Mandalorian!"
I cracked up at this part
This is the way, but the way can be better.
*Diana turns the plane invisible*
Steve: I can't see the controls
Diana: Oh sh-*BOOM*
lmao
Seriously, did the writers know what radar actually is?
@@coolidgedollar2154 i think Diana's invisibility power also included the radar.
@@apurba4578 But radar detects mass through electromagnetic waves -- nothing to do with visible stimuli. If the two characters are interacting with the plane and its controls even when invisible, then it must have mass; if it doesn't have mass, then they shouldn't be able to sit in and fly it. The writers were damned either way on this one.
@@coolidgedollar2154 electromagnetic waves ARE light. While it is in a spectrum that the eyes can't see, it is exactly the same phenomena. The range of visible light is just a specific frequency/wavelength range of electromagnetic waves (light waves can be equally defined by frequency or wavelength as their velocity is fixed (speed of light) = [frequency]X[wavelength].
Neither electromagnetic waves nor radar have anything to do with mass. Radar does work by electromagnetic waves though. As such, it might be invisible to radar, and since this the whole scene was magical nonsense, it would be a weird hill to die on
The second this movie started the "you can wish for anything (but we are supposed to turn it down because wish granting is selfish)" and the "revoke your wish" I turned to my sister and said what happened to the kids who wanted daddy to stop hurting them and mommy to come back. what about the hungry kids who wanted food or the sick kids who wanted to be better. what about them?
The jet / radar scene...
"I can't explain right now"
*proceeds to explain*
The moment she started "flying" by spinning her lasso my brain left the room.
She saw saw Thor spin Mjolnir and then fly off, so she figured it would work with her lasso-- and it did! Hollyweird is so done.
@@MattU4970 different comic book company.
@@spvillano Oh I wasn't using the sarcastic voice; now you look foolish.
i think you mistaked "catching lightning"
@@MattU4970 was thinking the same, but it's more like Thor combined with Spiderman.
I really wanted to see the cut scene where Handsome Man is staring at the huge wet spot on his bed and asking, "WTF happened here?" when the Secret Service and FBI kick his door down and arrest him for stealing a jet plane from the Smithsonian and breaking into the White House.
Also, “Why did I spend a grand on Trojans?”
"Why do I have vague recollections of being heterosexual?" Man wouldn't THAT have been a mess. Not that the lack of consent wasn't enough of a mess.
@@arisucheddar3097 From the looks of _Handsome Man's_ wardrobe it is very likely he is gay. This would mean Diana not only forced him to have sex against his will but also against his nature. P.S. This movie was written and directed by a _feminist._
@@robertanderson6929 "Feminist"
😂 😂 That should have been the post credit scene instead of what they went with,
Seems Wonder Woman is bad at understanding technology
She doesn’t know breaking cameras are pointless
The plane that Steve and her hijacks needs fuel
The fact that invisibility and radar are completely different things
The woman does make you wonder, doesn't she.
@@TheRatsintheWalls electromagnetic waves and photons are not the same. The jet is not intangible as shown that they can sit on it. Meaning the waves will bounce off it and be sent back to the radar, making them trackable.
@@HullsColby Exactly. This whole invisibility "power" over flying jets was written into the wonder woman comics in like the 1920's - the point being, I doubt the writers thought it through that much.
@@TheRatsintheWalls Oh, sorry that I didn't reply sooner. Well, even if they were really untrackable, I'm pretty sure being a complete void of nothingness inside the radar is not good either.
The reason stealth aircrafts can be stealthy is because besides being outside the radar via altitude, they are also designed to be so. Being a big patch of nothingness in a 3d space would arouse suspicion.
Unless there's also a fix to that.
@@HullsColby -- but photons and em waves share physical properties - the duality nature of light dictates this ..
This movie deserves a bonus round of "We renounce how physics works"
Are there any super hero movies that have utilized the laws of physics throughout?
@@randygiles845 Nothing is as horrible as this movie.
@@Willowy13 I'm jealous of your sheltered life where WW84 is the worst movie.
@@randygiles845 I think that was specifically targeted on the physics
@Randy Giles and @Willowy13 shouldn't you two be looking up spells in the library with Oz and Xander so you can help Buffy stop the Master ?
The moment where you realized that Transformers films (that had more screen time with humans) actually showed more action scenes than WW84
Now you know its a bad movie XD
" Renounce your wishes. " And what about people who asks to die and go to heaven ? Like they're chilling in heaven and some angels bring them back to earth so they can renounce their wish ? And most of all, I can't believe no one just joked in front of the TV saying " I wish the world explode " or something.
Right?! that was my exact thought, like someone looking at max saying "wish he would just die."
If Michael Bay directed this movie that would have happened
"I missed the part where that's my problem."
**planet explodes**
What about people who wished to die themselves? How can they renounce their wish?
Barbara: Funny, all this reading has cured my eyesight somehow
Me: Reading books was the reason I had to start wearing glasses
Not true
@@idiosyncraticlawyer3400 then you tell me the reason my eyesight is so bad
@@idkbalvan6303 I don't know any details of your background to deduce that, but I do know that reading isn't the reason.
@@idiosyncraticlawyer3400 How are you so sure? I dont to anything except reading, RUclips and sometimes gaming.
@@idkbalvan6303 How am I so sure? Reading, RUclips, and sometimes gaming.
Cinemasins is that one channel that you binge for weeks and then drop it only to come back later.
This...This is what happened with me
That is every binge ever
I agree
THIS this is the one
Im currently in my coming back later faze
Are we going to ignore the fact that Steve and Diana flew a jet from DC to Cairo? they would most likely run out of fuel in the atlantic.
That's what Film Theory talked about.
@@WildDancer101 i know thats how i learned that
Or the fact that jet which supposed to be a museum display has a fuel on it? Also, when they're flying, all of the sudden it's 4th of July? What????
The jet sequence was one of the biggest bullshit in the movie
@@Alex-nv7gk ikr
Even cinema sins misses that Dianna only goes out with Barbara after learning about the magical item in her possession. Seems like Dianna like Max cared more about that than Barbara.
Yeah, I noticed that too. They really made Diana a bad person in this movie...the script for this movie was so bad, this is why the WB needed to offer Feige a billion dollars to run the DCCU, whatever you think about the Marvel v. the DC movie wars, there is no way a script like this ever gets past an initial draft let alone makes it to film in Marvel.
The one thing this film gets right is that Diana is a terrible person. If it had stripped her of her powers and made her confront what little she is without those abilities she never earned or worked for, it could have been decent. But that would require a director and screenwriter with ability and recasting the lead.
CS: "Apparently her lasso can attach itself to the departing soul of her dead love, thus propelling her toward her destiny."
ME: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm dead.
Maybe she'll attach her lasso to your soul for the next swing.
@@micah4029 does this belong to r/cursedcomments?
@@paulolsen2197 With sincerity, I'm not sure if you're insulting me or not. I'm not Reddit-savvy.
Wonder Woman: I don't own a TV.
Also Wonder Woman: Let's go check out all my TVs and watch news from all around the world.
Probably she's lying
@@margarethmichelina5146 yup, like most people who virtue signal.
WW84 in a nutshell.
@Robert Monroe Arthur Fleck Joker isn't set in the DCEU
@Robert Monroe I see it now. My bad. Sorry :)
So the one thing in this movie has gotten me curious - everyone had to renounce their wish in order for everything to go back to normal right? So...that guy who wished for a coffee at the start, did he renounce his wish? If he did, will the coffee just vanish leaving him still thirsty? And if he doesn't, is the world doomed - just from a cup of coffee?
And this time on How it Should Have Ended
You left out the biggest sin of all. In the first film, it’s a big deal that Diana was training in secrecy from her mother during her childhood, and now this film features her doing warrior triathlons in front of her mother
Also also, Diana looks at the old pic of her and Chris Pine like it’s the last time she’s seen him and obviously it wasn’t if they spent time together in 1984
They dont have a picture from 84' and he didn't look the same
Also, not starting with "DC Comics" **ding**
The better could be if WW84 took place in a Elseworld
It's almost like they don't have a plan for a cinematic universe
That “holy shit your the mandolorian” was the best
that "i'll always love you Diana no matter where I am" literally made my entire family burst out laughing. why did he say that in the background offscreen after she left?
The "renouncing your wish" scene is similar to "...and everybody clapped" scenes. It was so cheesy I-
Instead of everyone renouncing their wishes, couldn't someone just have made the wish 'I wish for ALL the wishes to be undone?'
That's kinda what happened. After Max Lord renounced his wish to be the stone itself all of the wishes he granted up to that point were annulled.
@@irish5662 No where is that in the movie, but if it helps make one of the worst movies of the last 20 years slightly better, I guess we can make believe.
@@SlevinCCX They said if you destroy the stone the wishes in turn are undone. When he renounced his own wish to be the stone, the stone was in a sense 'destroyed' and therefore the wishes are undone.
Also, while the movie is not particularly good, it does not rank among the worst movies of the last 20 years. Not even close. That would put it among Last Airbender and the Happening. It's a bad movie but has its' moments. The other two are cringe from beginning to end.
@@irish5662 "When he renounced his own wish to be the stone, the stone was in a sense 'destroyed' and therefore the wishes are undone." According to you, not the movie.
@@SlevinCCX We both saw him renounce his wish and heard them say that if you destroy the stone you undo the wishes so actually it is according to the movie.
This guy cracks me up...so spot with great humor. This channel is needed for any bad day for instant smiles & laughs
Funny thing is that Diana was able to enjoy her wish (quite literally) while others enjoyed it for less than a minute 😂
We really don't know how long Steve lasted in bed. Might well have been less than a minute.
We learned from pitch meetings just how soft and squishy cars are.
@@ChineduOpara Whoops!
@@bargoladexterjay5424 whoopsie
Yeah yeah yeah
Surviving a 100- foot fall onto a metal and glass car is super-easy, barely an inconvenience!
Well, they're all soft and squishy when you're driving a tank.
Here's the sin you missed, if Max Lord renounces his wish, wouldn't all the other wishes that have been granted since he got his wish granted being null and void? Because the wishes were made through him. And if he can no longer Grant the wishes, anything he would have granted would automatically vanish
That's not a sin - that's the literal only explanation for how every wish disappeared. It's nice to show people renouncing their wishes, but if they refused too, it would be taken away anyway.
@@rokeYouuer I would like to think so as well, but you know the way they do movies. The world will still be destroyed because ONE kid didn't give up their wish to have that teddy bear! LOL
@@rokeYouuer which means it's still a sin. Since the wishes would vanish anyway that entire scene of Diana convincing the world(which is absurd already) is pointless. All she needed was for max to renounce his.
@@mikehu2451 Yeah, the entire movie was feel-good drivel.
Did you mean Null and void
Best part: Lasso of Truth suddenly changes to Lasso of Lies
That "everybody recanting their wishes" climax alone deserved a 1000 sins.
I would have said a sin for every probable person on the globe that would not/ could not do it, or had no way of knowing they should.
Exmahina
Its implied that everyone who recanted their wish was being compelled by the lasso of truth via Max.
There are billions of people on the Earth.
Wow, you're full of fun trivia tonight!
16:37 They thought they could get away with having The Mandalorian himself in the same scene as the “Star Wars” name-drop. Dang it Warner Bros, STAY IN YOUR LANE!
Imagine is Barbra became a shark when she asked to become an apex predator. She would die, because she wouldn’t be able to breathe
Well this is the WB universe.....anything outside the laws of physiology is possible.
Haaaaave you met King Shark?
Unless she was also magically transported to the ocean at the same time.
I would remove over 9000 sins if they did this.
the funny part is Cheetahs arent even Apex predators, so I don't know wtf they were doing there
I'm a vegan, and 7:17 made me laugh so hard that I spit all over the cellphone screen and my mom (who was sitting next to me) told me to pipe down already.
"No one is more or less valuable based on their footwear choices"
"Wonder woman fights in wedges??? WEDGES???"
Value vs practicality
It’s so she looks taller. See all the other female superheroes who wear heels so not to look so short next to the men. Black Widow, that blue chick from Guardians of the Galaxy, and Black Canary.
She’s always fought in wedges in all the movies
"He ate pop-tarts in bed. IN BED. Let him go!"
😂😂😂😂😂
Gonna add one more sin for the movie showing a normal Barbara having apparently also renounced her wish, which she _so would not do._
Orphans getting either zombie parents for abusive parents.
Becoming a super powers monster.
And cures cancer patients also suffer some kind of consequence. The Stone takes something with every wish. Max was only being kept a live because he was taking the health of life force of other people making wishes.
I don’t think she did though. I think when Maxwell lord denounced his wish of being the stone it only removed the Cheetah part of her. But she still met her wish of wanting to be more like Diana
The guy managing to steal the gem while making out with Barbara was super ridiculous! When watching the movie with my dad, I said "What, is he going to put it in his pocket?! She'll say 'are you happy to see me, or are you trying to STEAL MY GIANT ROCK!' "
I also like how Pedro is playing this part as if it was written for Nathan Fillion
That’s it!!! Couldn’t put my finger on it.
Somewhere in Gotham City, Bruce Wayne briefly gets his parents back only to need to immediately renounce his wish lol
Yeah, but Martha Wayne came back possessing Alfred’s body and it was all super weird.
Something they missed : when they board the Washington metro there are signs pointing to the silver line, which didn’t exist until 2014
Which is extra stupid because that station has different platforms for different pairs of lines. Like they could've focused on the green and yellow platform without showing the silver line at all.
@@WJonesK_S Well the green line didn’t exist until sometime in the early 1990s
Are we forgetting the fact that Chris pine character was shocked to learn about metro transit. Something thats been around since earlier 20th century.
There’s also a kid wearing a Cro Mags tshirt in the mall for an album that didnt come out til years later.
@@QuarioQuario54321 Good point. The whole thing's an anachronism then.
this movie was one of those movies where your just left with nothing but confusion over how the movie ended up being so bad, with the first one being really good.
zack snyder cough cough
My favorite part about this movie was when the people were renounceing there wishes as. The movie showed a clip of a factory smog going back into the pipes, what blaster looks at a factory and wishes “man it would be cool if factory’s emitted more carbon emissions, yeah.... now that’s epic”
genius
I don't know if I could with for anything I would wish for more black smoke but I am also a b##ch
Ofcourse I would not renounce my wish for more smog either because again am b##ch.
"I wanna be an apex predator."
(Gets turned into a killer whale)
MUCH better movie
Or a murder hornet.
Or she doesn’t change and keeps being a human.
@@Capri_00 that's deep
@@hexenmeister4978 but true.
The payphone not working for international calls is SPOT ON. We had to go to a postal office with special phones for that. Street phones could barely work IN THE CITY LOL.
I dread the day when everyone still uses the term "[to] hang up" but almost no one remembers why we say that in reference to phones.
No sin for the amount of change that would be required for that length of call either even it that long distance call was possible! Their call should’ve been getting interrupted every minute asking for more quarters.
@@Dark_Mishra They should have shown Diana feeding the phone coins nonstop.
I'm amazed that you remember postal office phone calls @Starfals yet have a Dota2 thumbnail. Mad respect fella.
Well there's also showing Barbara seeing her new abilities but barely experimenting with them.Electro in ASM 2 when he debuted got more screen time and wasn't limited to just one scene in the movie.
“Would you like to see my futon”
“When Chris pine says this it is sexy, but when I say it it is creepy and they revoke my library card”
That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard in a while
What is it called when you have physical relations with someone’s body when they’re unconscious and unable to consent? Cause that’s what Wonder Woman did to that random guy who Steve Trever sent to the sunken place.
That’s rape my friend, but since it’s a beautiful woman doing to a man who is possessed by the dude she loves, a lot of people were okay with it. Were the genders reversed, the outcry would be more huge.
Imagine if she ends up being pregnant with his baby and he would have to pay child support even though he has absolutely no memory of any physical relations with her.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate this mans work and consistency 🙏
Their whole team is amazing
Totally, he watches problematic Superhero sequels so that we don't have to!
'Hardworking and consist enjoyable content'
*-5 sins*
More than one person making theae
@@Artofficial1986 I do know that
Here’s some sins you missed which easily deserves 100 sins
1. When Diana is in the water scene shocking tiger thing she is wearing metal armor with her head exposed, how is she not shocked by it?
2. She flies because she B E L I V E S, does that mean everyone who beloved they could fly can fly? Or what?
3. She grabs lightning, she grabs pure energy with a lasso which isn’t instantly caught on fire
“He ate pop tarts in bed, IN BED. Let him go.” 🤣
I'm shocked you didn't retroactivity sin Cheetah's look for reminding you of that nightmarish Cats movie.
He did
At least the Cheetah fight happened in the dark.
He did sort of, he referenced Mungojerrie which is a cat from the original stage production but was also in the Cats movie
Before anybody comments that he did, let me clarify: yes he did say 'scene does not contain Mungojerrie.' It should have been followed with 'Also movie intentionally reminds me of 2019's theatrical release of Cats. Thanks movie, here's a 100 sins.'
"I hope you have something nice to wear..."
MAX SURVIVES THIS!
This just cracked me up 😂
You really got me thinking now, what did she attach the lasso when she took off to learn how to fly after she renounced Steve. Bc that was pretty hilarious what you said about it being his soul XD!
I believe the title you were going for was “Everything’s Wrong with Wonder Woman 1984”
"She's wearing wedges, the stupid heels ever to be created. And we're supposed to let her save us"
1 Min later
"No one is more or less valuable based on their footwear choice"
It's not about value, but about efficiency in fighting.
I have a pair of suede Bruno Magli chukka boots, so- yes, I AM more valuable than others based on footwear. So there!
@@kevinmccoy3653 And you, sir, win this week's "Well, La Di Dah" award.
I think he meant valuable as a human being….Not valuable in fighting
*How’d you miss the green screen reflection on Kristen Wig’s glasses in almost every scene she’s wearing them?!*
5:29. I swear actors used to wear lenseless glasses for just this reason, so they can make it look right in post. this is just lazy.
@@themustar601; obviously, you missed so many of the clearly green square reflections? This could be edited out very easily. Or like the last reply, without lenses. She doesn’t need glasses, as shown in the moments after she stated “I guess all this reading cured my eyesight.”
I really hope you’re being sarcastic...
This almost makes me want to go back and watch this again. *gives in to temptation because I love CinemaSins*
@@horrorjunky4life50 Do it!! It’s definitely worth another view for them!
People who wear prescription glasses usually have an anti reflection coating on the lenses, it is green looking in the light and can make green shapes based on what they’re looking at. I’m actually glad she had the green, most film makers let actors wear glasses with no lenses. Like in Big Bang Theory Leonard and Bernadette’s glasses both are just the frames.
You should have added at least ten sins for that plane stealing scene. There was so much wrong with it, I probably couldn't list it on my hands.
The sin about the 2 kids Wonder Woman saved having internal injury lol priceless
The greater sin is that they’re clearly dolls.
@@li-limandragon9287 IKR. That took me out of the movie like we all can tell she is holding a mannequin.
@Robert Monroe it’s... literally conservative propaganda? It’s pro israeli and ignores that while Gal Gadot was serving in the IDF she murdered two Palestinian children. Conservatives are notoriously pro Israel
Credit to Pedro Pascal he did a good job with what he was given. I'd like to see him in some comedic roles in better movies
Also, like a child, Steve asks what the fireworks were, even though they were invented in like 900 AD.
Also also, Steve, a WWI pilot, would probably have some serious PTSD from anti-aircraft fire. He wouldn't go UwU seeing and hearing fireworks explode all around his plane.
another sin: why is the "ancient armour" still in perfect condition after apparently being bashed by an army of vikings?
@Jerry Graham I doubt a single female/cat hybrid is stronger than a Viking. Sure she has superpowers but Have you seen a Viking?
"Oh, I don't have a tv." "Vegans!" LMAO that may just be my favorite joke you've ever made.
In every action scene, Wonder Woman looks like the different colored object that gets interacted with in the middle of the same colored background in old cartoons.
Ah, the green lantern suit.
@@insaincaldo it wasn't as bad as this and tbh i liked the suit
@@ninjanibba4259 It looks cropped in via windows paint and in the scenes where everything is CG the problem is his face. You can like it all you want, but if the artist in charge was payed more then 5$/hour he was over payed.
Whatever my issues with the movie, seeing Lynda Carter at the end sent me back to being a little girl in 70s spinning myself dizzy in the backyard.
It was great seeing Lynda again but this movie doesn’t deserve her approval.
A simple nostalgia card should not carry the rest of the movie
If only they set this in the 70s and did the tv show theme song.
And she's in her 70's now and damn, she still looks good!
"Whether or not you can see it, RADAR bounces off metal"
RADAR is EM reflections. Light is EM reflections. If it's "invisible" to all EM, then it would be invisible to both sight and RADAR, as they are essentially the same.
Also, did you see it go "invisible"? It was more like translucent, man.
Most unbelievable part of the whole movie is Gal Gadot walking into the party wearing that white dress and getting basically ignored, followed by Kristen Wiig walking in and getting drooled all over.
Remind me of Snow White and The Hunstman when Kristen Stewart is somehow way hotter than Charlize Theron
@@margarethmichelina5146 Kristen Stewart anyday
It was her wish to be sexy.
This movie was such a let down. The first one was fun (albeit a little "woke"), the story wasn't great but atleast made some sort of sense, and the acting w as a little bad, but still it was a fun movie. But this movie wasn't fun. It wasn't funny. There was no good acting. The story made zero sense. The "fighting" looked like a couple middle schoolers slap fighting in transformers cosplay. The cinematography was just BAD. This movie was just so bad.
@@Jrseydevil first movie was by far the best dceu movie they’ve made. This one was really really bad, but hilariously, I still have it as my third fav dceu movie behind shazam, because the rest of the movies were such heaping piles of garbage lol.
"....doesnt she know this will lower her armor class"
that made me laugh
I think Diana’s most important thing being her powers was kinda shallow, and was just a workaround to Steve being her most important thing
Diana: I don't have a TV.
Cinemasins: VEGANS!
🤣🤣🤣