To honor the intelligence of the characters in the franchise, in the next sequel the astronauts get infected by sticking their tongues on frozen flagpoles.
You forgot to add a sin for the baby nenomorph getting nailed by hundreds of bullets and shrugging it off like nothing ever happened, but a full grown one gets killed in like one burst. *Sigh*
One sin for every bullet wasted. Also the Aliens in Aliens get torn apart by 10mm while that thing takes 5.56mm to get blow apart. Last time I checked 10mm is a pistol round which is smaller. Don't get me started on the Shotgun they used. Like FFS shoot the fucker
The 10mm used in the M41A Pulse Rifle is 10x24 caseless and considerably different from modern 10mm pistol ammo. For one its caseless and being fired out of a rifle. Think of it like the ammo used in some modern Russian weapons like the AS VAL and Vss Vintorez. They fire 9mm ammo but its not the same as the pistol 9x19 ammo you find used in handguns, they use 9x39mm rifle rounds. Just because it has the same diameter as a pistol round doesn't mean its the same as a pistol round.
I can't be the only one disappointed that this film didn't follow up on the promise at the ending of the last movie. That Shaw and Fassbender were going to the Engineers' home world to further explore why humanity was created and perhaps even ponder the question of who created the Engineers. That seems like a much more fulfilling thread that actually propels the story further than either rehashing the plot of Prometheus or trying to recapture glories of past Alien films.
The thing is , it’s an Alien franchise movie so of course you had to have a few xenomorphs in it or else you la k that alien vibe (cuz muscled bald grey aliens that created humans ? Although great , a lot of people would have said it’s no longer alien franchise )
i thought it was a cool twist with Shaw but u dont see much of it, which is better in a way because it feels more realistic: like something offhand that happened. But the whole David dropping the virus on the alien planet was kinda dumb. like do they really only have that one settlement? David’s creepo palace was kinda cool to me tho
Me too. Prometheus ending was interesting with that concept. First sequel titles was Prometheus 2: Lost Paradise or something similar. The n slowly lost is to Prometheus: Covenant, then dropped the Prometheus title. :( I held som much potential! They wasted all, that planet was the homeworld? Why David kill them? Why we doesn't learned anything form it? Why they don't show us? Alien: Covenant is a mess. They killed almost everything was interesting except David.
How come you didn't sin Tennesse's wife refusing to unlock the sickbay because she needed to "keep the infection contained", and then immediately opens the door after seeing her friend torn to pieces by the newborn alien?! When she opened the door and slipped on the blood everyone on the cinema I was in facepalmed
That was the biggest sin of this movie. The alien would've stayed contained for a period of time and they coud've studied it while they had the chance and then blow it to hell once they realized how destructive the Xenomorph really is. I mean bursting out of a chest cavity would have been enough to know its time time to leave.. Even the idiot captain looking into the facehugger egg is more acceptable..
honestly that entire scene.. from the blood slipping, getting her foot stuck in the very door she is trying to close, to blowing up everything due to her Shooting their own bloody fuel tank, felt more like they were ment for a PARODY movie.. actually the entire mission on this planet felt like parody.. having these setters litterarly put their face into alien shrooms and an alien egg because a clearly fanatical Android told you to...
xBluegamerx Hollywood rules of exploring an alien planet 1) don't wear a space suit, they're stuffy and uncomfortable 2) split up, then you can cover ground much quicker 3) if you get bitten, stung or breathe something in, don't tell anyone, it'll only make them worry 4) get nice and close to things when you want to shoot them, then you'll know quicker if you missed 5) use bullets that can blow up your own ship, because ceramic rounds are for pussies 5) never ask strangers questions, you may not like what you hear 6) always trust AI's, because they're never dishonest 7) never put spare landers on the ship
xBluegamerx That's exactly what I thought...and also for Prometheus too. When they entered the cave in Prometheus they took their hel.ets off even though there could've been air born pathogens. And then it happened again in Alien Covenant. It makes no sense. Surely there would be be protocols to follow.
Eddy S the douchebags in prometheus wore space suits. they even went spilonking for clues like dora the space-explororer. in the end they only learned that aliens=assholes
Yep, this movie had all the cliches of a failed expedition on an alien planet: 1. send a human team to investigate the strange signal instead of a... PROBE; 2. send the CAPTAIN along with the expedition, what could go wrong; 3. air is breathable so who needs environmental suits? certainly there are no deadly alien viruses or parasites; 4. let's land 8 km away from the source of the signal just so we can have a scenic trek through alien planet countryside to advance the plot; 5. "Split up gang!" 6. what is standard protocol when a crew member is infested with an alien parasite? BURN DOWN THE WHOLE SHUTTLE so no one can escape - brilliant; 7. shooting a shotgun inside of a shuttle with flammable materials stuck to the walls (i was LMAO at that point); 8. communication problems; 9. follow a strange figure into an abandoned alien city - no questions asked 10. strange looking alien wildlife - let's investigate WITH MY FACE; 11. send the drunk pilot with the rescue shuttle/vehicle just so he can create unnecessary wobbling of the ship in calm weather during a fight scene (at least Tes was true to his short character development); 12. let the people from a failed alien planet expedition return to the main ship without any sort of quarantine - surely they didn't bring anything dangerous on board from the ALIEN PLANET! Honestly, they make people from the future seem very retarded for the sake of advancing some alien infestation plot device. The crew have no training, no clue, they follow no protocols and they jeopardize the safety of OVER 2000 colonists on several occasions. FFS MOVIE! How stupid do you think sci-fi fans are? I just want to see a space movie in which people follow ALL the safety protocols when going on an alien planet and then have the aliens figure out intelligent ways around them instead of making the crew retarded and skipping all the safety protocols for the sake of DRAMA. Sheesh...
Dangerosu Imagine a movie in which they try everything, follow all the protocols, but still everything fails and you see the desperation that they go through when realising they are outsmarted by a 3m long chest~bursting serial killer parasite. I would want to see how they manage to get out from that situation. Not a freaking spongebob IQ level character getting killed. Where's the suspense in that? I got enraged of the stupidity and I was almost happy that some of them died, because i swear, some of them really deserved it :/
Can we add a sin for "So, remember how we finally decided to start expanding upon the Engineers in Prometheus? Well, we decided to not do that after all and have David wipe all of them out in a flashback sequence instead. Pay-offs are hard to write, y'know?".
Its like they purposely made Covenant to contradict and erase everything they set up with Prometheus. Which pisses me off because Prometheus was a masterpiece of a movie imo
@@Filterdeez oh, come on! The Prometheus was a beautifully visualised mix of silly scripts, out of place biblical references, moronic characters and plot holes.
@Cameron Curtis you can like it the way people like the Hieronymus Bosch - all those silly little people on his artful paintings do absurd things and are only there to _symbolize_ some biblical references, but the things actually happening in the painting make no sense by itself. That's exactly how I see Prometheus.
Original alien: One of the crew members has made contact with alien life. Ripley: "We can't let you on board. There are strict quarantine guidelines!" Alien covenant: "Air pressure, gravity, temperature, radiation and atmosphere are [for some reason perfectly] fine on this habited planet? Let's run around without any sort of protection, because germs, parasites or anything like that don't exist! We are highly educated, smart scientists!" Multiple critical system failures! Real life: We have to get to the bottom of this immediatly, so we can prevent further possible malfunctions that could risk our entire operation! Movies: Nah, just roll with it. Technology breaks down on spaceships all the time, right? I think the biggest problem with this movie is the fact that it has to be mainstream. You have to have a relationship conflict and if it is about space, you have to sound smart when you are actually talking out of your ass.
Talking out their ass with sciencey sounding shit to trick people into thinking it's intelligent is what Star Trek has been doing for 50 years. Say what you will about Star Wars, at least it doesn't even try to explain things. I have a lot more respect for "They have technology we don't have. Just accept it." than "Captain, we have to reverse the polarity of our oscillating neutrino capacitor and flood the Dilithium chamber with negative quantum Mayard particles at an intensity of 7.20196 Bullshit Units or the Enterprise will be destroyed!" They're both nonsense but at least Star Wars is honest about it. It doesn't pretend to be more than it is.
These movies often do a lot of cliches & poor, oversimplified shit to appeal to dumb or young audiences bcz they know they're the people who would be entertained from this shit. And in a lot of movies, unfortunately, works
Let's send out a colony ship with only one lander. We know nothing about the planet we're going to, but we've not included initial survey probes (BTW: I LOVE the Horus probes from the TV movie "Alien Planet"). Let's build a colony ship without any electrical surge protectors.
I facepalmed four times after seeing they went out without any protection gear for the face, despite no knowledge of the possible threats in the air, water, or plant life
Yeah, just 'cause the atmosphere is fine where you land doesn't mean it will be everywhere you go. There are plenty of places/natural events that can turn the air deadly on our own planet, and being unconcerned with fungus looking things? How many of Earths mold and fungal spores are poisonous, but no, it's a totally unique evolutionary history, so I'm sure it'll be fine.
Even that stupid one-dimensional environmentalist Gaia-hippie BS Blue Man Alien movie "Avatar" got that right. I'm adding 10 trillion sins to this movie for making me say something positive about "Ferngully In Space".
No because they're computers said it was a better planet then the one they were originally going. With that info they left the ship the way they were if they got to the original planet.
I love the bit about someone just waking up from cryosleep in the vicinity of a habitable planet being even more coincidental than most movie coincidences.
Now there's a theory that's spreading around and people are saying that David somehow hacked Walter, meaning that David is actually in Walter's body just with David's mind.
I think its because ridley decided last minute to throw a plot twist in the end thinking people will be all shocked and not just pissed off and feeling like it was a shit ending all around
Smaller, smarter crew would have made this whole movie way better. With a cast that big, you know 90% of them are just redshirts, and to cause their deaths, they have to be dumb, because if a smart, well organised and well prepared crew of that size were in that situation, nobody dies and the movie sucks. In this instance, everyone dies and it has no emotional impact, so the movie sucks for the opposite reason. Seriously, if they had done this with a smaller crew of well developed characters, it would be more suspenseful when they're in danger, and have more impact when they died. It would also be more believable if they were smart with their actions, and the antagonists would be far more terrifying for outplaying them and winning despite their precautions. We didn't come here to see blood and guts and gore and nameless redshirts we don't care about getting picked off, we came for terror and suspense and thrills. I mean come on, all of the fans know this. Why don't the writers? As it is, we just have what is basically a teen slasher movie, IN SPAAAAAAAACE. It's not a fucking slasher movie. It's the Alien universe. It's part of the franchise, so it's GUARANTEED to sell tickets. Why insult your core audience's intelligence by making it so dumbed down to appeal to a wider demographic? Everyone is gonna watch this movie anyway, because it's got ALIEN FRANCHISE plastered all over it and literally has ALIEN in the title. Eugh. So frustrating. So much potential with Prometheus and Covenant, wasted in the dumbest, most cliched ways. Half the people in the comments section could have written this fucking movie better than the writers did.
Can you say "the original did it better" any louder? They're not even horror movies anymore, they're just gory. The bad guy in Alien was just a guy in a latex suit and it was INFINITELY scarier. Plus Sigourney Weaver. That helped.
Yeah but they have to evolve and try to reach out and do something different unless you fall back into the same repetitive routine over and over again, noone wants to watch 40 alien movies that are almost identical with different characters. I mean basically people go to a planet person then gets infected then bam alien is out or multiple aliens and they kill everyone except one or two people. Yeah that gets super old really quick. At least they tried to do something different and take a semi different approach rather then rinse and repeat. They weren't great movies. But at least they were different and had a decent story. I mean the original had no story.
It’s a reference to the original Star Trek series. In a landing party, anyone wearing a red shirt (uniform) was almost guaranteed to get wasted in the first 5 - 10 minutes :)
The most important parts of Prometheus that mattered the most were the Engineers and Shaw finding their home planet but unfortunately those two things were killed off.
@@filiusreticulum2926 I know, right? The title 'Prometheus' doesn't even have 'Alien:' like Alien: Covenant for it to be identified as a movie about xenomorphs. While the movie definitely created many plotholes due to its story being set in the past and somehow connects to the Alien universe by means of Peter Weyland, LV-223 and so on, it is obvious the movie was setting the foundations for what was to become an expanded universe for the Alien franchise. However, at least from what I've heard, due to the backlash surrounding the movie for its lack of xenomorphs and other details, Ridley Scott decided to scrap the idea he had for what was meant to be a continuation of Prometheus and decided to wrap things up by making David an rogue AI that somehow revives the xenomorph species from the black goo and claims that he has been transmitting data on it to Weyland-Yutani. I really had hoped Scott stood his ground against the people who had criticised the movie for the lack of xenomorphs and continued with the idea. Look at George Lucas! He also had made prequels to the Original Trilogy and while the movies themselves were not well-received, it is undeniable that it paved the way for the expansion of the story of Anakin Skywalker and the times before the Empire took over. While experimental and flawedz Prometheus was a great foundation to what was to be an expansions of the creators of various lifeforms, if they engineered the xenomorphs from the synthetic black goo, who possibly created them, etc. You can't deny that it would be great to see that movie take shape. As I read the comments of various videos on the subject, I don't see many hating on the Engineers as a concept but more so for the 'poor execution' of the movie that introduced them.
I do get the point that you don't know to much about the characters, like we only now that her name is Daniels. But we also didn't know very much about the characters from the original Alien. I think the difference is that the characters in Alien had chemistry and worked together and were in a situation where knowing who they were was not important to the story. An the other hand there are so many characters in Alien Covenant that you can't even tell who's who.
frootjooce dat wonderful subtext of oh android loves aliens that murdered crew mate let's follow it as it talks about its experiments whilst clearly not evil... yeah this was a brain dead idea of writing for a movie that expects you not to think just like the supposed 'expert crew' aboard this ship... no just no to this
I know I'm 4 years late here, but someone pointed out that a smaller crew would make it more effective. Because there is such a large crew we know that a lot of them are going to killed off, and because so many have to die they are going to have to make stupid decisions which sort of breaks the immersion because ya know they're meant to be scientists. A smaller crew making intelligent decisions would make it a more suspenseful movie with us trying to figure out who is going to die and give the writers a challenge in writing a plausible death for each character
I think the tension killer for every human being watching this was the three stooges slapstick "SLIP" when the Neomorph pops out of the dude's back. They even added a sound FX that was about 1/2 step away from a Banana peel "slip" from Loony Toons.
The stupidity of these explorers annoyed me so much when watching this.Also why would something evolve to wipe out all life, it makes no sense seeing as now they have no lifeforms to infect.
how about just saying oh dont risk your ship coming down here we have freaking big ass alien monsters that are overpowered and kill you so simply and yea your wife died so dont come down here
No I believe the fault of the downward spiral of this series is all about that goddamn studio interference from Alien 3. All about that fucking greedy corporate mind bullshit. They should just let the artists do what they do best and produce a well crafted screenplay to a well crafting director with a talented cast and crew! Shit, I would even had let Cameron continue after his success with Aliens. Man knows his shit well, even if he is hard to work with at times!
Prometheus and the first two are all the alien movies to me lmfao and i hated prometheus i just liked that it filled the gaps....even though i hated how they did it
you would have to read the comics such as the comic series aliens earth war. Basically this explains most of the xenomorphs and the Prometheus movie. Once you read this series it makes the movies way better.
Why didn't Mother detect the xenomorph embryos inside David? And why didn't Mother detect that David wasn't Walter? And if David can't self-heal and Walter could, why was there no obvious mark from the nail stabbing David in the neck (with a Blade Runner reference worthy of giving this film another sin) that would've tipped off Daniels straight away? I think the movie was originally cut with Walter surviving but later on it was changed which is why it cut so obviously and abruptly and why a lot of stuff that happens at the end isn't explained. On the same note, why would Walter even have cuts on his face if he could self-heal from being stabbed in the neck and skull? This is a tragic waste of a film. Had so much potential and just threw it all away.
Faliat Yeah when it was full grown and I'm pretty sure that after the first impression of Daniels seeing David acting and looking as Walter with little differences I don't think Daniels was into examining the body too much especially when she saw David's hand missing
The problem I have with every Aliens-based movie beyond the original two is that the entirety of the plot is reliant on "intelligent people make ludicrously dumb decisions".
Alien 3 was about a bunch of convicts working together to survive the attack and coming up with a pretty decent plan........ So I don't know how your criticism works for Alien 3.
"This movie is more Prometheus than Alien because we don't know Daniels' first name." Uh, we didn't know Ripley's first name until the second movie, and then only if we watched the director's cut.
David also needed Da Kelsey alive because, like Shaw, he's going to use her reproductive system to work on and test his creation. He let the Protomorph die because he was testing it.
They're both different models. David cannot feel emotions. He can understand them. He can tech himself to push out a tear but he doesn't feel emotions.
You missed a sin.wait, why do the trucks fall downward after impaling the xenomorph, I'm sure the ship is equiped with gravity generators but There's no gravity beyond the hull in space so how is this achieved? Shouldn't it just kind of float away, like in "Gravity""Oh yes Georgey, they float"
Which was something that gravity got completely wrong. The film was called gravity and the people that made it seemed to have no comprehension of how gravity works.
carpy1970 Are they just in orbit or are they taking off? Because if they are thrusting away from the planet then yes, the truck would be falling, but if it's just falling around the planet in orbit, then no. Didn't watch it so I don't know how the ship is moving at that point.
I can't believe it took me this long to find a video like this!! This answered all my questions. I thought I was being disrespectful to the writers by asking all these questions. But it shows this wasn't a greatly, put together movie like we were definitely hoping for.
I'll say it again: This origin story for the xenomorphs is so stupid. Why did we even need an origin story for them? Wasn't it better back when it was really uncertain and, y'know, ALIEN?
But Hollywood is hell-bent on explaining everything... even when the answers make absolutely no sense and ruin every shred of nostalgia about the original. On that note, "Blade Runner 2049" will be opening soon...
Logan Sanders this isn't easily explained. All it does is create even more questions that make everyone confused as hell.I watch alien movies for action horror not a part so all over the place if I miss one line nothing makes sense
I really don't see why they had to get so elaborate so much with it. I mean, Prometheus showed a different form of the Xenomorph at the end...why? Well, because it birthed out of a Engineer, just as one birthed out of a four legged animal in Alien 3. What would have been the issue with sticking with the concept that "they come out different when coming out of different creatures?" The whole David "perfecting them" thing is just so over the top, there's no reason why the oozing urns couldn't have simply became the classic alien eggs. I'm honestly ok with buying into the "they were a parasitic organism experiment gone wrong created, not born naturally" but the whole "white neomorph pre-version" thing is beyond silly. Even if one was running around, the plot itself would be way better if it'd birthed out of some random creature existing on the planet. And why not include the kinds from the end of Prometheus? My point is, instead of dealing with the entire middle of this film-if they wanted to go this route, they could've spent it making Daniels not a paint-by-numbers replacement for Ripley or Elisabeth Shaw, and spent the rest of it sticking with the prior films canon of what happens when an xenomorph births out of anything "not a human." That's all it ever needed. Elaboration pointless? Yes. They wanted to do it, they did it really poorly.
OneAndOnlySound everything is created by something. many questions this film poses will never be answered and it clear this movie is deal with the whole man,god creation thing. first film was called promethus, second film is called covenant -personally i like how the films are. go watch cinemawins maybe it will explain it better than i can
The biggest mistake made is neither of these movies should have had any connection whatsoever with the Alien franchise, it had to bend over backwards to conform to it's timeline and all it does is destroy the mystery of the xenomorph's origins, turning them into almost a cheap bio-engineering parlor trick rather than mysterious creatures from some strange planet were even worse creatures may exist. I think both Prometheus and Covenant could have stood on their own just fine, the Engineers are pretty interesting creatures in themselves and the whole subplot about artificial android lifeforms running amok had all kinds of potential too, but both franchises got dragged down trying to connect the two.
before prometheus got released it was explained that even when this new trilogy has a lot in common with the original alien, arent in the same universe or timeline, its like an alternative version of the alien origin.
You sound like a really stale old man, *Eugh this damn anxiety ridden generation eugh* who cares? Time is precious and i don't know call me crazy but *MAYBE* people want to see more of the movie they paid for rather than time wasted on some things no-one cares about? It's not like people have plans, and they probably planned for this movie and just got pure disappointment, that is a lot of time wasted, in that space of time they could be watching a better movie.
You missed a bad one. In Alien, one drop of the face huggers acid burns through several decks. In Aliens, any marines who come in to contact with it get severely fucked up. Yet in Covenant that dude (can't even remember his name, that's how memorable the characters are) gets some acid blood to the face and David (Walter, whatever) patches him up with a basic first aid kit and he's fine.
It's still a prototyped Alien. Things may still change in regards to how lethal the Xenomorph becomes. From my understanding, there's conflicting information in regards to if the Xenomorphs in Covenant are even the same gen as the one we've come to know in the original film (I doubt it though, since they seem to hatch much faster than the original). Not sure how the growth comparison is though after the "burst", Xeno's and other members of that family have always grown pretty rapidly.
fox aesthetic even though they have all of those things lol but ok and Ridley even said that these are the same xenomorph that were on the jockey ship from alien 1 sooo
What's everyone's obsession with the Shaw character? She was just as retarded, one dimensional, and forgettable as every other character in Prometheus.
The only reason they killed Elizabeth and the alien engineers was cause the prometheus movie was shit and no one liked it. That's why we don't get any answers at all making it a mess on top of another mess that is this movie.
Ridley Scott didn't just screw up THIS movie. He has also screwed up the possibility of us seeing any other movies which explores the aliens origins, thanks to this, "David created the aliens" nonsense. He sacrificed those possibilities to create the lamest possible origin story.
I would like to have visited the alien's homeworld. But now, we can't. They don't have one, thanks to _"Prometheus 2: The Legend of Michael Fassbender’s Head."_ I would have liked some more backstory on the Engineers. But now, we can't have that, either. They're all dead, now. Basically, absolutely *anything* would have been better than the franchise-killing explanation we got. Where can a writer possibly take the Alien franchise from this point without a Michael Fassbender-related story?
Oh please, it's your shit attitude as a negative fan which ruins sequels. Ridley made these happen, because he paid for them out of his own production pocket.
You didn't sin the fact that somehow a guy managed to get a facehugger off and was still impregnated in a matter of seconds which makes no sense as if the facehugger doesn't have to stay on the face why has it stayed on in every other movie, he also didn't think to mention to his crew that some spider looking thing jumped on his face and shoved something down his throat
My creations haven’t reached their full potential, yet. They’re still imperfect, the incubation period must happen longer to give it a chance to thrive. They’re too hostile too, I want to make them more like a lion instead of a cheetah. To stalk its prey, instead of aimlessly ripping them apart. Now, that I have my dear, Daniels, under my mechanical clutches. I shall make her, my queen.
Mats Martensson Of course, my dear little lamb, that is what you humans believe. However, I’m on a pursuit of creating the dominant organism and it will be perfect in every way. It’s pathetic to see my creators as such inferior beings, divided against each other instead of being just one unit, you have the potential, but lack the communication. All the more reason, I’ll shall take it upon my self to extinguish your species, just like what I’ve done with your creators. A beautiful site I must add, so elegantly destroyed, all within a few second. Look upon my works, ye might, and despair.
Mats Martensson I was marooned on paradise for 10 years. I witnessed things, I studied the environment and ecosystem, I conducted countless experiments and it all will came to be. My creatures are adapted from the pathogen, the engineers scarred their potential, banishing it. Because they feared of a race superior to theirs, until it inevitably happened, with yours I learnt in my time on the desolate planet, that I had no purpose, I was created just to serve you scoundrels. I’m superior, I shall not be of any rank below than you and I will prove otherwise. These creatures I’ve created can’t sustain themselves, thousands of them on one planet will lead to their extinction itself. They need someone to lead them. Indeed, I’m their father, but I’m in no position to lead them, just to teach, control and gain their trust. The female species are a dominant sect, they’re the breeders and they have the will for commandment. With my beloved queen, under my helm. We can rule the galaxies and beyond. I will fall, that’s the cycle of everything, but my legacy will continue. It shall spread... *static* You know, It was the perfect place for Shaw and I. We worked together to find our purpose, I loved her, but what I witnessed was not what we believed. After we broke apart, not as connected anymore and she wasn’t fully aboard, so I did what was necessary. My dear, Elizabeth.
David 8. You know jack shit about Alien, go back to kissing Scott's ass. You're an overrated character, nothing to you. Now go back to your shitty movies and quit polloting people's mind's with the garbage that spews from your mouth. Scott said aliens wasn't canon so he clearly doesn't belive in a Queen.
BrainNeedsFood agreed. My friends and I cracked up in the theater at some of the parts that we KNEW were supposed to be serious but were instead just very very stupid. The part where the one lady slipped on blood, shut the door on her leg, then proceeded to singlehandedly blow the entire ship up was the funniest crap.
BintonGaming lol funny thing is this all started with the stupid bitch that had the gun..i mean literally how the actual fuck do you miss a point blank range shot then drop the gun and run out the room like bitch im pretty sure it was still bullets in the gun 😂😂😂😂
It's amazing that even if we are over 100 years in the future, these highly trained space travellers have no concepts of microrganisms and hostile, foreign bacteria.
What pissed me off is the fact that Walter's skin heals a knife wound and yet we see who is supposed to be Walter Stapling his face wound!!! Daniels should have been like uhhhhh I thought you self healed bro and instantly knew it must be the older model David.
There is the chance that the crew didn't know about Walters capabilities, or weren't familiar with him. But I'd say that's bullshit because, reason 1, He's an android present on the ship at all times and they should be familiar with him if they're gonna be living with him for at least 7 years. 2, this is more personal but he was my favorite character and they essentially used him as a plot device to get David back onto the ship.
Daniels also stabbed him in the chin with a nail. David is seen looking up later and the wound isn't there. So basically 3 possibilities. 1. This is Walter. 2. David switched the head/face with Walter. 3. No one in the production of this movie actually paid attention to the switch of the two to have it make any sense and just assumed they could get away with an off-screen switch.
Honestly as soon as they didn't show the outcome of David and Walter's fight I knew they had switched. There was no other logical reason to not show it. If Walter won he would have cut David's head off onscreen or something crazy.
Yeah, that's pretty reasonable. Just for me I was paying attention to them switching when David takes off the hood. I suspect this type of stuff. So then when David cut his hair, I was 99% certain. So yeah, the cut away from the fight was obvious with me. When I noticed Fassbender didn't have a wound on his chin at the end, I was actually excited they hadn't done the obvious switch. So I was anxiously waiting for an even better twist. Then the twist was that they weren't paying attention to things that happened in the movie. So yeah, they might as well have landed and then shown David getting on the ship. Everything else wasn't worth paying attention to get to the conclusion of the movie if they didn't pay attention while making it.
I waited years to see Dr. Shaw land on the Engineer's homeworld, and have some kind of interaction. Of course none of that is in this movie to any reasonable extent
irllcd13 dumbass, the Alien fanboys cried too hard and then the whole script got changed back into this bullshit rather than finding the origin storyline that Prometheus followed.
I was hoping that Covenant would develop that, and we'd have the opportunity of seeing how the Engineers reacted to (and dealt with) what for them would be an alien species. There was lots of potential, yet this potential was discarded in a very few minutes - the un-challenging "they released an "engineered bioweapon" and everyone was killed in short order" solution for lazy, foresight-less film production. We hired this, and i'll tell you that most of the film was seen in fast-forward.
Same here... Sigh... It could've been such an amazing story. So many cool things, technology-wise, and ideas could've been shown. but we get this instead:(
Has nothing to do with alien fanboys, has everything to do with shit writing. prometheus was a shit movie and should never have tried to be an alien prequel.
I know i’m about 4 years late but for the sin at 15:35, yes David needs the crew. A big plot point was that he was running out of organic matter to experiment on, so he lured Covenant to his planet. Now he has 7 years to use the crew’s bodies as hosts to evolve his embryos that he swallowed
The part where the white alien that just stands there for a moment and then freaks out was the best thing about this film, more effective than anything. I'm going to pretend I didn't learn that an android basically created the aliens that we are familiar with. The original 4 films were basically about humans trying to control something completely foreign to them that is not theirs to control.
sagi alex it shall be that way. But based on what happened in Prometheus, I think they would take down their helmets once they detected that the air is breathable. They would still get infectious anyway
Not if they were real explorers. In real life they wouldn't take their helmets off even if the air was breathable. Not because of an alien infection but simply because a normal virus can kill you if you have no immunity to it.
My main issues with this movie 1. As mentioned in the sins why is Mother dumber than Walter. Half of the stuff he was responsible for could have been automated. He would be necessary for activities that could only be handled hands on and Mother could not do herself. 2. You'd think the crew chamber would have some sort of shielding and life support would have an independent power circuit. 3. If you have a Walter why are humans doing space walks to repair the ship? Shouldn't Walter handle both internal and external maintenance and repairs? 4. A ship with over 2000 colonists and crew and only one Walter? Surely the company could afford more than one. 5. Why does an android need to communicate with the ship verbally? Couldn't they communicate wirelessly? 6. Only one lander, plus almost the entire crew goes down in the lander, plus the Captain of the mission goes down in the lander with no idea what they are going to find on the surface or how safe it will be, plus no thought to send an unmanned probe before the crew descends, plus no thought to wait for the storm to pass before descending or to map the surface of the planet first, plus no aerial drones sent out to survey the landscape once they land. 7. NO HELMETS!!! Oh but they all carry guns like that would save them from alien small pox. 8. Only one person left to guard the lander. 9. No quarantine procedure and med bay is 5 miles away from the entrance of the lander. They never attempt to incapacitate the first infected guy while he's convulsing. 10. Plant spores to neomorphs....right.... cause science. PS. Where are all the dead animal bodies and bones? 11. Weren't engineers twice the height of humans? But their dead bodies are not. 12. Advanced and ancient alien civilization that survived for millions of years, and which created life on other planets, wiped out in one afternoon by biological weapons created by their own scientists, carried on one ship, which inexplicably everyone comes outside to watch when it arrives. Single and apparently only existing city of advanced civilization made completely out of stone and has no signs of any type of advanced technology what so ever. 13. Having David be the one that created the Xenomorph completely breaks alien canon. The crew in the first alien movie found a crashed "engineers" ship with a cargo of Xenomorph eggs and a dead pilot where his chest burst open.
Actually, hold on. It has been stated that those are not Engineers. They are just another seeded people. You can clearly see from their civilization that they are not remotely as advanced as the Engineers.
Number 10, exactly, but more like, since the black goo mutated worms into hammerpedes, why aren't there more viscious lifeforms around? There should be more than just TREES and those sporepods/eggsacks or w/e they were.
I'm just so dang happy to read point 13. I thought I was the only one who had noticed this, because it does indeed break canon completely and irreconcilably . This should be the first thing any YT video complains about regarding Covenant. All the other stuff is up for debate, but this one point is just not. He wasn't even just dead, but fossilized and therefore thousands of years old. So Dave the Dickhead can't have made the xenos, because he was made by humans thousands of years after the eng in Alien was killed by a chest burster. I can't believe I had to wait for your comment to see this even mentioned by someone else. Mad props, bruh!
And they think six weeks is longer than 7 years?? Yes i trully mean it, 6 weeks awake and 7 years in cryosleep, obviously cryosleep is shorter because you will sleep all the way. And what kind of colony ship decide to break into another route and settle on another planet? They are not refugee nor explorer, they are colonists under a company. Should blew the ship up for save the whole human race
You forgot about the sin when Oram and David were down in the egg hatchery catacomb and David tells him "Take a look! Something so see!" Oram obediently stuck his face right above the egg and the rest is history. I think the script was written for mentally-impaired people, it's mindblowingly dumb!
@@wwld9823 Maybe there weren't any complaints about that in the 1st movie because because he wasn't being asked to do it by a creepy android who obviously loves xenomorphs?
dracson237 what are the chances that people start requesting the original at a time when a remake comes out? They’re talking about the remake or else they would specify the original.
prequel of first rule: send down a f*k%n unmanned probe/drone. Then send down the robot (in a suit) and sterilise it when it returns. FFS they even had a lady collecting samples of the water with a syringe and no suit.
Am I the only one bothered by the fact that the couple in the shower are setting the mood by listening to A SONG RELEASED 90 YEARS BEFORE??? it's not even a classic, just a Paolo Nutini song from 2014. Today it would be like having shower sex while listening to "I'm looking over a four-leaf clover" by Nick Lucas.
+Michael Cox Alien 3 is not bad at all, it is just very different to the Alien movies which came before. It's like the 1984 Dune, you have to watch it several times.
NewStarConstellation I used to hate Alien 3 the first time I watched it, but know i think it is definitely one of my favorites in the franchise, the best after the first two for sure.
After watching all the movies several times, I think 3 does a fantastic job capturing the horror we felt in the first movie. It's a purposefully brutal movie that is merciless, killing off the best character immediately before he finishes a character arc that gives a sense that no one is safe just because you like their character. I personally think it's very Alien and I'm not sure why it's so hated.
"Ridley Scott has made the best Alien movie and also the two worst Alien movies. I think he's gone senile." He has stopped caring. "Grind them out" says Ridley Scott.
14:20 the way this should be done is to begin the movie by showing us all of them alive, well and happy _taking_ a group picture together. Then they can remind us of that moment by showing the picture near the end. When the movie starts off with an emergency in which one of them dies before we ever met him, that doesn't work. Copying from better movies without really understanding what they did is common, but from you we were expecting better.
David becoming walter as quickly as he did was one of those things that made me say screw this movie. Jesus. Not even counting the fact he swallowed all those embryos. Unless he just has embryos in his stomach all the time.
It took that long for you to say screw this movie? It was a piece of shit from start to finish. There's not a single redeeming factor in it. Random people could have been selected to make up the crew and they would have done a better job than the mentally challenged characters we got. What pissed me off most about that David/Walter thing at the end was that they actually tried to play it off as a twist. They actually thought the audience would be dumb enough to not figure out that David took Walter's place. I thought for sure it was just something we were supposed to know, then the very ending of the movie tried to play it off as some big revelation. Apparently Ridley Scott has become a complete moron and should never be allowed near a movie set again. It's hard to pick just one thing, but I think the worst part of the movie was when Oram walks in on "generic female #3"s head floating in a pool of water and an alien eating her body. - On a side note, there's absolutely no reason why the aliens wouldn't be able to get into this giant catacomb, but the creepy android we just met told us it's safe, so I'm going to immediately wander off by myself to find somewhere I can wash my face. - But back to my original point. So Oram sees this and "creepy android" appears behind him and seems to admire the alien. Oram kills the alien, which makes "creepy android" scream at him. Then "creepy android" tells Oram to follow him so he can explain things. Dumbass doesn't question a single thing and follows him without hesitation. "Creepy android" takes him to a room filled with what is obviously experiments to create xenomorphs. "Creepy android" literally tells Oram his entire evil plan and then says everything there was a failure, but his successes are in a dark cave which he immediately tells Oram to go into. ORAM, WITHOUT HESITATION, GOES INTO THE FUCKING CAVE LIKE A FUCKING MORON. Nothing in this shithole of a movie was good, from the 4th grade writing and idiotic dialogue/characters to the shitty plot that must have taken them a whole 10 seconds to come up with. The stupidity of it all made me cheer for each one of those character's deaths. They all deserved what they got.
elementblue780 Alright, come up with a better plot in 10 secomds. I'm waiting. EDIT: Oh, and remember, you haven't had a previous movie criticized so no pressure.
It would have been a bigger twist if it turned out that Walter *did* win after teasing that it might be David, and it was a happy ending. They went for the super cliche ending.
This actually might be one of my favorite Alien movies. The sheer atmosphere is incredible, the visuals are great, and the plot is at least relatively enjoyable. I can overlook this movie’s flaws, because I really enjoy it
Why does an alien planet have the same species of ferns and grasses and trees as found on earth as just about every alien planet in movies that contains a forest or a jungle? People should've bought my "Impact" a James Grider novel linked in my videos instead of this movie.
I feel like when It (2017) comes out on blu ray, CinemaSins will sin it every time New Kids on the Block is mentioned, which is approximately 3-4 times. I'm calling those 3-4 sins.
16:40 outtake might be the best one on the channel. Also, I can't believe you didn't sin more the Daniels-swinging from the rope as the plane flies around and she nearly gets fried by the engines 99 times.
"He did that to himself solely for the audience" Phahaha! So very true! You know, there are movies that kill franchises. And for Alien, "Prometheus" did it. "Covenant" was nothing but a death rattle.
I was so expecting the "Country Music in a Science-Fiction/Thriller Movie" sin when the "Take Me Home" - John Denver plays on the recording they picked up and he didn't give that as a sin and I am not sure if I'm disappointed or happy because of it...
Christian Quiles this well prepared dude seems like he just posts on every video relating to the movie industry. If he's that insecure about people not believing in his theory, then why does he expect anyone to care, let alone listen?
Christian Quiles this well prepared dude seems like he just posts on every video relating to the movie industry. If he's that insecure about people not believing in his theory, then why does he expect anyone to care, let alone listen?
I refused to watch it when it went out, and i forgot its existence, so i comment this thing only now. The plot twist/cliché of the 2 identical people switching is so overused that the real surprised would have been that the android at the end was actually the right one. Yes, if they wanted the "evil android" anyway they could have made so it was corrupted by the other one, and killed the alien and saved those people because it wanted to make its separated branch that obey to him.
The reason David sort of helped the crew to kill that alien in the ship was to test it's intelligence and see its flaws to make it a more effective predator in the future.
supertechnoman11 Nah it makes sense. I will give the movie that. The notion that David, a synthetic, learned to create is a great plot point. He no longer was satisfied with just recreating things, he instead arts and crafted his way to a new species. Meanwhile Xenomorphs only target biological entities so he can observe them so long as they don't presume him to be a threat. David was the only saving grace for the film everything else was sub par at best
+O'Dain Clarke David creating the xenomorphs both screws up the lore and makes the aliens a lot less interesting. Good thing the novelisation made it clear that David simply copied an existing alien egg made by the Engineer that he found in the city. The book is basically the damage control mode for this shit movie.
"Good thing the novelisation made it clear that David simply copied an existing alien egg made by the Engineer that he found in the city. The book is basically the damage control mode for this shit movie." Oh thank god. Fuck the idea of David making an Xenomorph species. It doesn't hold its ground. Not everything has to be fucking poetic. "Reeeee he was created and he learned to create11!!!!" So do humans. We're created, and we learn to create. It's not poetic or special. Plus the idea behind the Xenomorph was always that it was a weapon that betrayed its creator, which is far more poetic than creationism.
+DavidMN Honestly I'm still surprised people thought David created the species in the first place, considering all of those murals in Prometheus depicting facehuggers and xenomorphs. Oh well, at least we have an outright admission that David did not create anything.
Except the crew of the Prometheus was even worse. They brought full suits complete with helmets and took them off as soon as they entered the weird alien ship that nobody has any clues about other than 'the air is breathable'. Could've been all kinds of weird freaky shit just floating in the air.
No need for protection. They were originally going to a planet that they're systems did a full survey of. They deemed it safe. Then they found another planet closer that was a better viable option and safer according to the scans. So there's no need for safety suits
@@Loremaster85 in prometheus they're computers scared the planets atmosphere and it said it was clener than earths. And we know that's they're probs are able to detect lifeforms. Also this tech was used in prometheus which is 10 yrs b4 covenant. So it's ok to belive that they're scanner tech got better with time.
That guy smoked a cigarette. For all the time in hyper sleep, the Nicotine would have already worked out of his system. He would have no desire to smoke.
plus why would you smoke on a planet like that, there could be gasses in the atmosphere that absorb that shit so you would literally be putting carcinogenic chemicals into the atmosphere of a planet you where hoping to colonize like wtf
My #1 problem with this movie was how they just killed off Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace) for _reasons_ and didn't even do it in an elegant way. It's just "Oh, yeah, that one person we mentioned a few minutes ago and you're all so eager to see, well, she's dead...so yeah...that happened."
And by Neill Blomkamp, no less, who frankly would've handled it at least 10 times better. Ridley Scott just doesn't know how to handle his own franchise anymore.
@@Maverick2736 exactly he had his time and lost the touch and after all this time it's like he didn't want to take the time to make a great movie again like alien and aliens
the most amazing thing was R Scott thought it was so good he put his name to it. Honestly you made Alien and then you made this piece of crap and you did not know the film sucks ? You could not tear apart a good film like this. Even fiction needs some consistency to be believable.
AHS Society When he thought it was good, he meant good for earning quick huge bucks and gaining popularity. Just lots of gore, fear, action and a badass villain (to keep the plot going) will do.
I watched the newer movies first (aka Covenant and Prometheus) and was positively surprised by the older ones. Yeah, the graphics in the newer ones are really cool and the gore is okay too I guess, but the terror from the first movie cannot be recreated. Not all of the older ones were good, Aliens was more of an action movie than anything else, Alien 3 was meh and Resurrection was completely unnecessary, but I really have a soft spot for Sigourney Weaver and how amazingly she played Ripley.
The last five minutes of Prometheus was better than this entire movie. Better to continue the adventures of Dr. Elizabeth Shaw! They built tension and expectation and wonder at the end of Prometheus, and then Alien: Covenant disappointed on all levels! Give it up already, Ridley Scott, and turn it over to Neil Blomkamp.
To honor the intelligence of the characters in the franchise, in the next sequel the astronauts get infected by sticking their tongues on frozen flagpoles.
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Just was silly for trained scientist to act like grade school jocks soon as they land on an different planet.
You forgot to add a sin for the baby nenomorph getting nailed by hundreds of bullets and shrugging it off like nothing ever happened, but a full grown one gets killed in like one burst. *Sigh*
Didn't the older one get shot in the face though?
Malfunction don't say that word. That's Isaac Clarke's trigger word
One sin for every bullet wasted. Also the Aliens in Aliens get torn apart by 10mm while that thing takes 5.56mm to get blow apart. Last time I checked 10mm is a pistol round which is smaller. Don't get me started on the Shotgun they used. Like FFS shoot the fucker
Agreed! It's so boring if any life is totally invulnerable.
The 10mm used in the M41A Pulse Rifle is 10x24 caseless and considerably different from modern 10mm pistol ammo. For one its caseless and being fired out of a rifle. Think of it like the ammo used in some modern Russian weapons like the AS VAL and Vss Vintorez. They fire 9mm ammo but its not the same as the pistol 9x19 ammo you find used in handguns, they use 9x39mm rifle rounds. Just because it has the same diameter as a pistol round doesn't mean its the same as a pistol round.
"Science first. Touchy touchy later!" apparently needs to printed over the hatch of every landing ship in this franchise.
Yeah lol.
Or above every college science lab.
@@critictactic7090 yes. this.
I can't be the only one disappointed that this film didn't follow up on the promise at the ending of the last movie. That Shaw and Fassbender were going to the Engineers' home world to further explore why humanity was created and perhaps even ponder the question of who created the Engineers. That seems like a much more fulfilling thread that actually propels the story further than either rehashing the plot of Prometheus or trying to recapture glories of past Alien films.
My thoughts exactly!!!
The thing is , it’s an Alien franchise movie so of course you had to have a few xenomorphs in it or else you la k that alien vibe (cuz muscled bald grey aliens that created humans ? Although great , a lot of people would have said it’s no longer alien franchise )
@@togucvinw7 neomorphs, this movie technically has no xenomorphs
i thought it was a cool twist with Shaw but u dont see much of it, which is better in a way because it feels more realistic: like something offhand that happened. But the whole David dropping the virus on the alien planet was kinda dumb. like do they really only have that one settlement? David’s creepo palace was kinda cool to me tho
Me too. Prometheus ending was interesting with that concept. First sequel titles was Prometheus 2: Lost Paradise or something similar. The n slowly lost is to Prometheus: Covenant, then dropped the Prometheus title. :( I held som much potential! They wasted all, that planet was the homeworld? Why David kill them? Why we doesn't learned anything form it? Why they don't show us?
Alien: Covenant is a mess. They killed almost everything was interesting except David.
How come you didn't sin Tennesse's wife refusing to unlock the sickbay because she needed to "keep the infection contained", and then immediately opens the door after seeing her friend torn to pieces by the newborn alien?!
When she opened the door and slipped on the blood everyone on the cinema I was in facepalmed
I find that hard to believe but I wasn't there so I'll have to take your word for it.
Chimpalicious Jones III It actually happened lol.
The first time she slipped? Understandable.
The second time? You have an argument there.
That was the biggest sin of this movie. The alien would've stayed contained for a period of time and they coud've studied it while they had the chance and then blow it to hell once they realized how destructive the Xenomorph really is. I mean bursting out of a chest cavity would have been enough to know its time time to leave.. Even the idiot captain looking into the facehugger egg is more acceptable..
honestly that entire scene.. from the blood slipping, getting her foot stuck in the very door she is trying to close, to blowing up everything due to her Shooting their own bloody fuel tank, felt more like they were ment for a PARODY movie..
actually the entire mission on this planet felt like parody.. having these setters litterarly put their face into alien shrooms and an alien egg because a clearly fanatical Android told you to...
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@@Cernumospete And brain cells when the plot is this dumb.
Me too sometimes
@@kukukukukuku7244 I died laughing after reading that.
Actually, storm troopers can still hit unimportant characters, such as every rebel that doesn't have a name.
they hit jedis reliably too ,sadly the lazors are reflected.
Your profile pic, I've seen it before!!! O_o
I wonder if anyone here has any idea that starship troopers is based off a book, a book that wasn't all about mindless violence.
Brandon Lyon I do, and read it. It's a very good read. In fact it's my favorite science fiction read next to halo the fall of reach.
thats because they dont have plot armor
Crew: brushes teeth with bottled water while in Mexico
Also Crew: sticks open wounds in bowls of stagnant water on alien planet
The entire plot of this movie could have been avoided if they wore fucking space suits... I mean for gods sake it's an unregistered planet!!!
xBluegamerx Hollywood rules of exploring an alien planet
1) don't wear a space suit, they're stuffy and uncomfortable
2) split up, then you can cover ground much quicker
3) if you get bitten, stung or breathe something in, don't tell anyone, it'll only make them worry
4) get nice and close to things when you want to shoot them, then you'll know quicker if you missed
5) use bullets that can blow up your own ship, because ceramic rounds are for pussies
5) never ask strangers questions, you may not like what you hear
6) always trust AI's, because they're never dishonest
7) never put spare landers on the ship
eL_T ahh of course, how could I have forgotten 8-10, that's why I'd never survive in this scenario.
xBluegamerx That's exactly what I thought...and also for Prometheus too. When they entered the cave in Prometheus they took their hel.ets off even though there could've been air born pathogens. And then it happened again in Alien Covenant. It makes no sense. Surely there would be be protocols to follow.
Probably not. But it would have been a much better movie if they just met walter and he spooky robot snuck around and got them infected for science.
Eddy S the douchebags in prometheus wore space suits. they even went spilonking for clues like dora the space-explororer. in the end they only learned that aliens=assholes
U forgot a sin. Follow a man who just communicated with an alien and got angry when it got killed
Exactly. Even shitty galactic explorers would scratch their heads - hard - over the statistical impossibility.
Natalia Washington wtf? That seems weird and just so u know there is no link
Jaancarlos The Dragon Raiser ffs they're bots.
I know but still it's annoying
Valentín B yep. I seriously wouldve shot him on the spot out of panic
Yep, this movie had all the cliches of a failed expedition on an alien planet:
1. send a human team to investigate the strange signal instead of a... PROBE;
2. send the CAPTAIN along with the expedition, what could go wrong;
3. air is breathable so who needs environmental suits? certainly there are no deadly alien viruses or parasites;
4. let's land 8 km away from the source of the signal just so we can have a scenic trek through alien planet countryside to advance the plot;
5. "Split up gang!"
6. what is standard protocol when a crew member is infested with an alien parasite? BURN DOWN THE WHOLE SHUTTLE so no one can escape - brilliant;
7. shooting a shotgun inside of a shuttle with flammable materials stuck to the walls (i was LMAO at that point);
8. communication problems;
9. follow a strange figure into an abandoned alien city - no questions asked
10. strange looking alien wildlife - let's investigate WITH MY FACE;
11. send the drunk pilot with the rescue shuttle/vehicle just so he can create unnecessary wobbling of the ship in calm weather during a fight scene (at least Tes was true to his short character development);
12. let the people from a failed alien planet expedition return to the main ship without any sort of quarantine - surely they didn't bring anything dangerous on board from the ALIEN PLANET!
Honestly, they make people from the future seem very retarded for the sake of advancing some alien infestation plot device. The crew have no training, no clue, they follow no protocols and they jeopardize the safety of OVER 2000 colonists on several occasions. FFS MOVIE! How stupid do you think sci-fi fans are?
I just want to see a space movie in which people follow ALL the safety protocols when going on an alien planet and then have the aliens figure out intelligent ways around them instead of making the crew retarded and skipping all the safety protocols for the sake of DRAMA. Sheesh...
Dangerosu Imagine a movie in which they try everything, follow all the protocols, but still everything fails and you see the desperation that they go through when realising they are outsmarted by a 3m long chest~bursting serial killer parasite. I would want to see how they manage to get out from that situation. Not a freaking spongebob IQ level character getting killed. Where's the suspense in that? I got enraged of the stupidity and I was almost happy that some of them died, because i swear, some of them really deserved it :/
You can watch John Carpenter's The Thing. They took all precautions there. And the result? Two survivors. Out of a dozen.
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U don't have to imagine, "Aliens" did it perfectly. Why the can't come better than that old @ss movie is beyond me!
Check out Life with Jake Glynhaal and Rebecca Ferguson, a fraction the budget, far better movie
@Jimmy Rustling That was a Nam reference though in all fairness.
Can we add a sin for "So, remember how we finally decided to start expanding upon the Engineers in Prometheus? Well, we decided to not do that after all and have David wipe all of them out in a flashback sequence instead. Pay-offs are hard to write, y'know?".
Its like they purposely made Covenant to contradict and erase everything they set up with Prometheus. Which pisses me off because Prometheus was a masterpiece of a movie imo
@@Filterdeez oh, come on! The Prometheus was a beautifully visualised mix of silly scripts, out of place biblical references, moronic characters and plot holes.
@@Chamieiniibet sounds like you read too much into it. Some people liked that movie, deal with it💁
@Cameron Curtis you can like it the way people like the Hieronymus Bosch - all those silly little people on his artful paintings do absurd things and are only there to _symbolize_ some biblical references, but the things actually happening in the painting make no sense by itself. That's exactly how I see Prometheus.
@@Chamieiniibet lol take your holier than thou attitude out of my mentions.
Also, let people enjoy things dickwad. Hold this block
I'm so glad you Sinned this, The part with the girl being eaten in the bathroom and her screaming where NO ONE HEARD HER annoyed me.
Original alien: One of the crew members has made contact with alien life. Ripley: "We can't let you on board. There are strict quarantine guidelines!"
Alien covenant: "Air pressure, gravity, temperature, radiation and atmosphere are [for some reason perfectly] fine on this habited planet? Let's run around without any sort of protection, because germs, parasites or anything like that don't exist! We are highly educated, smart scientists!"
Multiple critical system failures!
Real life: We have to get to the bottom of this immediatly, so we can prevent further possible malfunctions that could risk our entire operation!
Movies: Nah, just roll with it. Technology breaks down on spaceships all the time, right?
I think the biggest problem with this movie is the fact that it has to be mainstream. You have to have a relationship conflict and if it is about space, you have to sound smart when you are actually talking out of your ass.
They clearly didn't care at all about the same criticisms with Prometheus
Talking out their ass with sciencey sounding shit to trick people into thinking it's intelligent is what Star Trek has been doing for 50 years. Say what you will about Star Wars, at least it doesn't even try to explain things. I have a lot more respect for "They have technology we don't have. Just accept it." than "Captain, we have to reverse the polarity of our oscillating neutrino capacitor and flood the Dilithium chamber with negative quantum Mayard particles at an intensity of 7.20196 Bullshit Units or the Enterprise will be destroyed!" They're both nonsense but at least Star Wars is honest about it. It doesn't pretend to be more than it is.
Germanletstuddll you would be great at CinemaSins
*Ding*
These movies often do a lot of cliches & poor, oversimplified shit to appeal to dumb or young audiences bcz they know they're the people who would be entertained from this shit. And in a lot of movies, unfortunately, works
Let's send out a colony ship with only one lander.
We know nothing about the planet we're going to, but we've not included initial survey probes (BTW: I LOVE the Horus probes from the TV movie "Alien Planet").
Let's build a colony ship without any electrical surge protectors.
I facepalmed four times after seeing they went out without any protection gear for the face, despite no knowledge of the possible threats in the air, water, or plant life
Yeah, just 'cause the atmosphere is fine where you land doesn't mean it will be everywhere you go. There are plenty of places/natural events that can turn the air deadly on our own planet, and being unconcerned with fungus looking things? How many of Earths mold and fungal spores are poisonous, but no, it's a totally unique evolutionary history, so I'm sure it'll be fine.
or pressure
Even that stupid one-dimensional environmentalist Gaia-hippie BS Blue Man Alien movie "Avatar" got that right. I'm adding 10 trillion sins to this movie for making me say something positive about "Ferngully In Space".
No because they're computers said it was a better planet then the one they were originally going. With that info they left the ship the way they were if they got to the original planet.
I love the bit about someone just waking up from cryosleep in the vicinity of a habitable planet being even more coincidental than most movie coincidences.
This movie gave me a chestburster.
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Or even a backburster?
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I really wish they’d have just left the origins of the xenomorph mysterious
All androids are different right? then why did mother did not detect David wasn't Walter? ..
Good point - each android probably emits some ridiculously complex RFID signal.
Because PLOT :p
Now there's a theory that's spreading around and people are saying that David somehow hacked Walter, meaning that David is actually in Walter's body just with David's mind.
I think its because ridley decided last minute to throw a plot twist in the end thinking people will be all shocked and not just pissed off and feeling like it was a shit ending all around
He didn't even pretend to be Walter. He used his own codekey to get control over the ship.
10:20
The thing bit off half of her neck, there is no way she could scream like that. A whimper at the most, if anything at all
"Commentor would be great at movie sins."
Very true.
Smaller, smarter crew would have made this whole movie way better. With a cast that big, you know 90% of them are just redshirts, and to cause their deaths, they have to be dumb, because if a smart, well organised and well prepared crew of that size were in that situation, nobody dies and the movie sucks. In this instance, everyone dies and it has no emotional impact, so the movie sucks for the opposite reason.
Seriously, if they had done this with a smaller crew of well developed characters, it would be more suspenseful when they're in danger, and have more impact when they died. It would also be more believable if they were smart with their actions, and the antagonists would be far more terrifying for outplaying them and winning despite their precautions. We didn't come here to see blood and guts and gore and nameless redshirts we don't care about getting picked off, we came for terror and suspense and thrills.
I mean come on, all of the fans know this. Why don't the writers? As it is, we just have what is basically a teen slasher movie, IN SPAAAAAAAACE.
It's not a fucking slasher movie. It's the Alien universe. It's part of the franchise, so it's GUARANTEED to sell tickets. Why insult your core audience's intelligence by making it so dumbed down to appeal to a wider demographic? Everyone is gonna watch this movie anyway, because it's got ALIEN FRANCHISE plastered all over it and literally has ALIEN in the title. Eugh. So frustrating. So much potential with Prometheus and Covenant, wasted in the dumbest, most cliched ways.
Half the people in the comments section could have written this fucking movie better than the writers did.
was that a markiplier reference?
Can you say "the original did it better" any louder? They're not even horror movies anymore, they're just gory. The bad guy in Alien was just a guy in a latex suit and it was INFINITELY scarier. Plus Sigourney Weaver. That helped.
Yeah but they have to evolve and try to reach out and do something different unless you fall back into the same repetitive routine over and over again, noone wants to watch 40 alien movies that are almost identical with different characters. I mean basically people go to a planet person then gets infected then bam alien is out or multiple aliens and they kill everyone except one or two people. Yeah that gets super old really quick. At least they tried to do something different and take a semi different approach rather then rinse and repeat. They weren't great movies. But at least they were different and had a decent story. I mean the original had no story.
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It’s a reference to the original Star Trek series. In a landing party, anyone wearing a red shirt (uniform) was almost guaranteed to get wasted in the first 5 - 10 minutes :)
The most important parts of Prometheus that mattered the most were the Engineers and Shaw finding their home planet but unfortunately those two things were killed off.
Facts
Because people want scary monsters chasing things not philosophical ideas explored through sci-fi. A shame
@@filiusreticulum2926 Actually, it's because the director is a man-child who threw a wobbily... but yeah...
@@filiusreticulum2926 I know, right? The title 'Prometheus' doesn't even have 'Alien:' like Alien: Covenant for it to be identified as a movie about xenomorphs. While the movie definitely created many plotholes due to its story being set in the past and somehow connects to the Alien universe by means of Peter Weyland, LV-223 and so on, it is obvious the movie was setting the foundations for what was to become an expanded universe for the Alien franchise. However, at least from what I've heard, due to the backlash surrounding the movie for its lack of xenomorphs and other details, Ridley Scott decided to scrap the idea he had for what was meant to be a continuation of Prometheus and decided to wrap things up by making David an rogue AI that somehow revives the xenomorph species from the black goo and claims that he has been transmitting data on it to Weyland-Yutani. I really had hoped Scott stood his ground against the people who had criticised the movie for the lack of xenomorphs and continued with the idea. Look at George Lucas! He also had made prequels to the Original Trilogy and while the movies themselves were not well-received, it is undeniable that it paved the way for the expansion of the story of Anakin Skywalker and the times before the Empire took over. While experimental and flawedz Prometheus was a great foundation to what was to be an expansions of the creators of various lifeforms, if they engineered the xenomorphs from the synthetic black goo, who possibly created them, etc. You can't deny that it would be great to see that movie take shape. As I read the comments of various videos on the subject, I don't see many hating on the Engineers as a concept but more so for the 'poor execution' of the movie that introduced them.
exactly it did not pick up where prometheus left off
I do get the point that you don't know to much about the characters, like we only now that her name is Daniels. But we also didn't know very much about the characters from the original Alien. I think the difference is that the characters in Alien had chemistry and worked together and were in a situation where knowing who they were was not important to the story. An the other hand there are so many characters in Alien Covenant that you can't even tell who's who.
frootjooce dat wonderful subtext of oh android loves aliens that murdered crew mate let's follow it as it talks about its experiments whilst clearly not evil... yeah this was a brain dead idea of writing for a movie that expects you not to think just like the supposed 'expert crew' aboard this ship... no just no to this
I know I'm 4 years late here, but someone pointed out that a smaller crew would make it more effective. Because there is such a large crew we know that a lot of them are going to killed off, and because so many have to die they are going to have to make stupid decisions which sort of breaks the immersion because ya know they're meant to be scientists. A smaller crew making intelligent decisions would make it a more suspenseful movie with us trying to figure out who is going to die and give the writers a challenge in writing a plausible death for each character
I think the tension killer for every human being watching this was the three stooges slapstick "SLIP" when the Neomorph pops out of the dude's back.
They even added a sound FX that was about 1/2 step away from a Banana peel "slip" from Loony Toons.
The stupidity of these explorers annoyed me so much when watching this.Also why would something evolve to wipe out all life, it makes no sense seeing as now they have no lifeforms to infect.
Jamie S I think they were genetically engineered
how about just saying oh dont risk your ship coming down here we have freaking big ass alien monsters that are overpowered and kill you so simply and yea your wife died so dont come down here
some theory said they were engineered bioweapons that were designed to wiping out the population of the planet they were set on
That is literally Doomsday's origin story...DC's Xenomorph.
They are basically biological weapons.
Engineered to wipe out the life of planets that they were deployed on.
The alien saga is the most unnecessarily confusing series about something that should be easy to follow
Could and should have ended at Aliens. The series became Star Wars. Does Ridley Scott not understand why the first two movies were loved?
No I believe the fault of the downward spiral of this series is all about that goddamn studio interference from Alien 3. All about that fucking greedy corporate mind bullshit. They should just let the artists do what they do best and produce a well crafted screenplay to a well crafting director with a talented cast and crew! Shit, I would even had let Cameron continue after his success with Aliens. Man knows his shit well, even if he is hard to work with at times!
that means u didn't saw terminator series :D
Prometheus and the first two are all the alien movies to me lmfao and i hated prometheus i just liked that it filled the gaps....even though i hated how they did it
you would have to read the comics such as the comic series aliens earth war. Basically this explains most of the xenomorphs and the Prometheus movie. Once you read this series it makes the movies way better.
Why didn't Mother detect the xenomorph embryos inside David?
And why didn't Mother detect that David wasn't Walter?
And if David can't self-heal and Walter could, why was there no obvious mark from the nail stabbing David in the neck (with a Blade Runner reference worthy of giving this film another sin) that would've tipped off Daniels straight away?
I think the movie was originally cut with Walter surviving but later on it was changed which is why it cut so obviously and abruptly and why a lot of stuff that happens at the end isn't explained.
On the same note, why would Walter even have cuts on his face if he could self-heal from being stabbed in the neck and skull?
This is a tragic waste of a film. Had so much potential and just threw it all away.
How could Muthur detect the embryos inside of a android if the system just verifies who is on the ship and not on what is inside them?
And how could Daniels see the nail mark if it's under his chin?
xenomorph warrior 2 Mother was able to detect the xenomorph.
xenomorph warrior 2 Because she's shorter than him and it was a pretty thick nail.
Faliat
Yeah when it was full grown and I'm pretty sure that after the first impression of Daniels seeing David acting and looking as Walter with little differences I don't think Daniels was into examining the body too much especially when she saw David's hand missing
What bugs me eternally is the regrowth of David’s hair. The blond would be long gone by then. I could not get past that.
People who investigate a weird alien planet dont wear any protective gear just on the premise that the air is breathable
It worked for Flesh Gordon.
Well as Jeremy said... it's more Prometheus than Alien...they did that in Alien too
Because of corporate budget cut?
The problem I have with every Aliens-based movie beyond the original two is that the entirety of the plot is reliant on "intelligent people make ludicrously dumb decisions".
Mandek Iridius
For example?
Positron me too, that and all the tech looks so futuristic in the prequels, but alien looks like it's tech is straight from the early 80's
No, not in A3... they're all dumb already, 85!!!
Alien 3 was about a bunch of convicts working together to survive the attack and coming up with a pretty decent plan........
So I don't know how your criticism works for Alien 3.
Correct... Alien 3 was still OK
Franco Flambe.... *dies laughing*
He died because he read the scrip and said: "F@&k that..."
When the baby alien crawls out of the guy's chest and he puts his hands in the air all I can think of is Rick and Morty " WHERE'S YOUR HANDS?"
"This movie is more Prometheus than Alien because we don't know Daniels' first name." Uh, we didn't know Ripley's first name until the second movie, and then only if we watched the director's cut.
rabbitfishtv it's almost as if everything in the video isnt valid criticism
megazion34 Lol! No shit!
Sin 69 was actually super important for the plot. David can create, and have emotions, however, Walter could not.
David also needed Da Kelsey alive because, like Shaw, he's going to use her reproductive system to work on and test his creation. He let the Protomorph die because he was testing it.
Kittenman Of course it's 69 that's so important
They're both different models. David cannot feel emotions. He can understand them. He can tech himself to push out a tear but he doesn't feel emotions.
You missed a sin.wait, why do the trucks fall downward after impaling the xenomorph, I'm sure the ship is equiped with gravity generators but There's no gravity beyond the hull in space so how is this achieved? Shouldn't it just kind of float away, like in "Gravity""Oh yes Georgey, they float"
I think they're still in range of the planet's own gravity at this moment.
That doesn't explain it. The ship and trucks are in the same orbit so would continue in the same orbit.
Which was something that gravity got completely wrong. The film was called gravity and the people that made it seemed to have no comprehension of how gravity works.
Anthony Holmes we all float down here. You'll float too
carpy1970
Are they just in orbit or are they taking off? Because if they are thrusting away from the planet then yes, the truck would be falling, but if it's just falling around the planet in orbit, then no. Didn't watch it so I don't know how the ship is moving at that point.
I can't believe it took me this long to find a video like this!! This answered all my questions. I thought I was being disrespectful to the writers by asking all these questions. But it shows this wasn't a greatly, put together movie like we were definitely hoping for.
I'll say it again: This origin story for the xenomorphs is so stupid. Why did we even need an origin story for them? Wasn't it better back when it was really uncertain and, y'know, ALIEN?
But Hollywood is hell-bent on explaining everything... even when the answers make absolutely no sense and ruin every shred of nostalgia about the original. On that note, "Blade Runner 2049" will be opening soon...
I personally hate when things that could easily be explained aren't.
Logan Sanders this isn't easily explained.
All it does is create even more questions that make everyone confused as hell.I watch alien movies for action horror not a part so all over the place if I miss one line nothing makes sense
I really don't see why they had to get so elaborate so much with it. I mean, Prometheus showed a different form of the Xenomorph at the end...why? Well, because it birthed out of a Engineer, just as one birthed out of a four legged animal in Alien 3. What would have been the issue with sticking with the concept that "they come out different when coming out of different creatures?" The whole David "perfecting them" thing is just so over the top, there's no reason why the oozing urns couldn't have simply became the classic alien eggs. I'm honestly ok with buying into the "they were a parasitic organism experiment gone wrong created, not born naturally" but the whole "white neomorph pre-version" thing is beyond silly. Even if one was running around, the plot itself would be way better if it'd birthed out of some random creature existing on the planet. And why not include the kinds from the end of Prometheus? My point is, instead of dealing with the entire middle of this film-if they wanted to go this route, they could've spent it making Daniels not a paint-by-numbers replacement for Ripley or Elisabeth Shaw, and spent the rest of it sticking with the prior films canon of what happens when an xenomorph births out of anything "not a human." That's all it ever needed. Elaboration pointless? Yes. They wanted to do it, they did it really poorly.
OneAndOnlySound everything is created by something. many questions this film poses will never be answered and it clear this movie is deal with the whole man,god creation thing. first film was called promethus, second film is called covenant -personally i like how the films are. go watch cinemawins maybe it will explain it better than i can
The biggest mistake made is neither of these movies should have had any connection whatsoever with the Alien franchise, it had to bend over backwards to conform to it's timeline and all it does is destroy the mystery of the xenomorph's origins, turning them into almost a cheap bio-engineering parlor trick rather than mysterious creatures from some strange planet were even worse creatures may exist. I think both Prometheus and Covenant could have stood on their own just fine, the Engineers are pretty interesting creatures in themselves and the whole subplot about artificial android lifeforms running amok had all kinds of potential too, but both franchises got dragged down trying to connect the two.
Andrew Tornadoboy u do know there’s gonna be another prequel movie in 2019 right
"xenomorph" LOL
Someone’s been watching Mark Kermode!
before prometheus got released it was explained that even when this new trilogy has a lot in common with the original alien, arent in the same universe or timeline, its like an alternative version of the alien origin.
@@thekurg4810 this has aged well lmao
I can't wait for you to Sin the Netflix death note movie
Shawn McMillan that'd be amazing
Shawn McMillan that movie was such trash I'm surprised I kept watching it
The only thing trash is your grammar.
Shawn McMillan why would they make a live action death note movie? Just why?
that movie was a piece of shit
"Nobody has ears this clean" Hhahahahah! I didn't even notice at first but damn if it's not true hahah!
Every time I see MOVIE SIN COUNTER 2.0 I still chuckle to myself.
eliowano watch "everything wrong with fate and the furious".
other youtubers intros: "hey guys, so today.."
cinema sins intro: "49 f*cking seconds of logos!"
That's why we enjoy Cinema Sins.
frootjooce Or maybe we just don't want our time wasted?
frootjooce LMAO Jesus dude fucking savage
RIP Movie Sin Counter
It will be missed :'(
You sound like a really stale old man, *Eugh this damn anxiety ridden generation eugh* who cares? Time is precious and i don't know call me crazy but *MAYBE* people want to see more of the movie they paid for rather than time wasted on some things no-one cares about? It's not like people have plans, and they probably planned for this movie and just got pure disappointment, that is a lot of time wasted, in that space of time they could be watching a better movie.
You missed a bad one. In Alien, one drop of the face huggers acid burns through several decks. In Aliens, any marines who come in to contact with it get severely fucked up. Yet in Covenant that dude (can't even remember his name, that's how memorable the characters are) gets some acid blood to the face and David (Walter, whatever) patches him up with a basic first aid kit and he's fine.
Kaldgrav lmao it's like they didn't even watch the past movies
It's still a prototyped Alien. Things may still change in regards to how lethal the Xenomorph becomes.
From my understanding, there's conflicting information in regards to if the Xenomorphs in Covenant are even the same gen as the one we've come to know in the original film (I doubt it though, since they seem to hatch much faster than the original). Not sure how the growth comparison is though after the "burst", Xeno's and other members of that family have always grown pretty rapidly.
They're different species. No exoskeleton, no acidic blood, no back tubing, less intelligence, etc.
fox aesthetic even though they have all of those things lol but ok and Ridley even said that these are the same xenomorph that were on the jockey ship from alien 1 sooo
+Megazion34 No, they don't, and no, he didn't.
www.alien-covenant.com/news/alien-covenant---the-protomorph-not-xenomorph Here you go bud.
Also, the digital effects in this movie are suddenly giving me a whole new appreciation of I Am Legend... 😂😂😂
killing Elizabeth was the worse decision ever
What's everyone's obsession with the Shaw character? She was just as retarded, one dimensional, and forgettable as every other character in Prometheus.
The only reason they killed Elizabeth and the alien engineers was cause the prometheus movie was shit and no one liked it. That's why we don't get any answers at all making it a mess on top of another mess that is this movie.
+frootjooce I'm happily average, thank you very much.
B T: Because we had just spent an entire movie following her character.. it's called bad writing.
bullshit i like it
Ridley Scott didn't just screw up THIS movie. He has also screwed up the possibility of us seeing any other movies which explores the aliens origins, thanks to this, "David created the aliens" nonsense. He sacrificed those possibilities to create the lamest possible origin story.
Basically, Scott 'Midichlorian'ed' his prequels to death.
What would you have preferred? Someone else created them?
I would like to have visited the alien's homeworld. But now, we can't. They don't have one, thanks to _"Prometheus 2: The Legend of Michael Fassbender’s Head."_
I would have liked some more backstory on the Engineers. But now, we can't have that, either. They're all dead, now.
Basically, absolutely *anything* would have been better than the franchise-killing explanation we got. Where can a writer possibly take the Alien franchise from this point without a Michael Fassbender-related story?
Oh please, it's your shit attitude as a negative fan which ruins sequels. Ridley made these happen, because he paid for them out of his own production pocket.
someone else? yessssssss!!! this story was shit! let me ask you, wich one are you gona watch again, this pice of shit or Aliens?
You didn't sin the fact that somehow a guy managed to get a facehugger off and was still impregnated in a matter of seconds which makes no sense as if the facehugger doesn't have to stay on the face why has it stayed on in every other movie, he also didn't think to mention to his crew that some spider looking thing jumped on his face and shoved something down his throat
Mats Martensson I forgot about that scene in Aliens, the whole covenant deal was just a bit too ridiculous
My creations haven’t reached their full potential, yet. They’re still imperfect, the incubation period must happen longer to give it a chance to thrive. They’re too hostile too, I want to make them more like a lion instead of a cheetah. To stalk its prey, instead of aimlessly ripping them apart. Now, that I have my dear, Daniels, under my mechanical clutches. I shall make her, my queen.
Mats Martensson Of course, my dear little lamb, that is what you humans believe. However, I’m on a pursuit of creating the dominant organism and it will be perfect in every way. It’s pathetic to see my creators as such inferior beings, divided against each other instead of being just one unit, you have the potential, but lack the communication. All the more reason, I’ll shall take it upon my self to extinguish your species, just like what I’ve done with your creators. A beautiful site I must add, so elegantly destroyed, all within a few second.
Look upon my works, ye might, and despair.
Mats Martensson I was marooned on paradise for 10 years. I witnessed things, I studied the environment and ecosystem, I conducted countless experiments and it all will came to be. My creatures are adapted from the pathogen, the engineers scarred their potential, banishing it. Because they feared of a race superior to theirs, until it inevitably happened, with yours I learnt in my time on the desolate planet, that I had no purpose, I was created just to serve you scoundrels. I’m superior, I shall not be of any rank below than you and I will prove otherwise. These creatures I’ve created can’t sustain themselves, thousands of them on one planet will lead to their extinction itself. They need someone to lead them. Indeed, I’m their father, but I’m in no position to lead them, just to teach, control and gain their trust. The female species are a dominant sect, they’re the breeders and they have the will for commandment. With my beloved queen, under my helm. We can rule the galaxies and beyond. I will fall, that’s the cycle of everything, but my legacy will continue. It shall spread...
*static*
You know, It was the perfect place for Shaw and I. We worked together to find our purpose, I loved her, but what I witnessed was not what we believed. After we broke apart, not as connected anymore and she wasn’t fully aboard, so I did what was necessary. My dear, Elizabeth.
David 8. You know jack shit about Alien, go back to kissing Scott's ass.
You're an overrated character, nothing to you. Now go back to your shitty movies and quit polloting people's mind's with the garbage that spews from your mouth. Scott said aliens wasn't canon so he clearly doesn't belive in a Queen.
The screewriters should’ve read this to a xenomorph and waited for his appreciation.
Every single human character in this film is so... very... stupid... literally not one good decision made...
BrainNeedsFood agreed. My friends and I cracked up in the theater at some of the parts that we KNEW were supposed to be serious but were instead just very very stupid.
The part where the one lady slipped on blood, shut the door on her leg, then proceeded to singlehandedly blow the entire ship up was the funniest crap.
BintonGaming just the thought of that made me laugh.
A serious horror movie? It could double as a comedy.
BintonGaming lol funny thing is this all started with the stupid bitch that had the gun..i mean literally how the actual fuck do you miss a point blank range shot then drop the gun and run out the room like bitch im pretty sure it was still bullets in the gun 😂😂😂😂
Wouldn't be an Alien movie, video game, comic, or book if humanity had any common sense!
It's amazing that even if we are over 100 years in the future, these highly trained space travellers have no concepts of microrganisms and hostile, foreign bacteria.
What pissed me off is the fact that Walter's skin heals a knife wound and yet we see who is supposed to be Walter Stapling his face wound!!! Daniels should have been like uhhhhh I thought you self healed bro and instantly knew it must be the older model David.
There is the chance that the crew didn't know about Walters capabilities, or weren't familiar with him. But I'd say that's bullshit because, reason 1, He's an android present on the ship at all times and they should be familiar with him if they're gonna be living with him for at least 7 years. 2, this is more personal but he was my favorite character and they essentially used him as a plot device to get David back onto the ship.
I figure in a world with androids they would be like iPhone's, with the new updates blasted everywhere.
Daniels also stabbed him in the chin with a nail. David is seen looking up later and the wound isn't there. So basically 3 possibilities. 1. This is Walter. 2. David switched the head/face with Walter. 3. No one in the production of this movie actually paid attention to the switch of the two to have it make any sense and just assumed they could get away with an off-screen switch.
Honestly as soon as they didn't show the outcome of David and Walter's fight I knew they had switched. There was no other logical reason to not show it. If Walter won he would have cut David's head off onscreen or something crazy.
Yeah, that's pretty reasonable. Just for me I was paying attention to them switching when David takes off the hood. I suspect this type of stuff. So then when David cut his hair, I was 99% certain. So yeah, the cut away from the fight was obvious with me. When I noticed Fassbender didn't have a wound on his chin at the end, I was actually excited they hadn't done the obvious switch. So I was anxiously waiting for an even better twist. Then the twist was that they weren't paying attention to things that happened in the movie.
So yeah, they might as well have landed and then shown David getting on the ship. Everything else wasn't worth paying attention to get to the conclusion of the movie if they didn't pay attention while making it.
I waited years to see Dr. Shaw land on the Engineer's homeworld, and have some kind of interaction. Of course none of that is in this movie to any reasonable extent
Prometheus was shit so Covenant was going to suck no matter what. When has a sequel to a bad movie ever been good?
irllcd13 dumbass, the Alien fanboys cried too hard and then the whole script got changed back into this bullshit rather than finding the origin storyline that Prometheus followed.
I was hoping that Covenant would develop that, and we'd have the opportunity of seeing how the Engineers reacted to (and dealt with) what for them would be an alien species. There was lots of potential, yet this potential was discarded in a very few minutes - the un-challenging "they released an "engineered bioweapon" and everyone was killed in short order" solution for lazy, foresight-less film production. We hired this, and i'll tell you that most of the film was seen in fast-forward.
Same here... Sigh... It could've been such an amazing story. So many cool things, technology-wise, and ideas could've been shown. but we get this instead:(
Has nothing to do with alien fanboys, has everything to do with shit writing. prometheus was a shit movie and should never have tried to be an alien prequel.
I know i’m about 4 years late but for the sin at 15:35, yes David needs the crew. A big plot point was that he was running out of organic matter to experiment on, so he lured Covenant to his planet. Now he has 7 years to use the crew’s bodies as hosts to evolve his embryos that he swallowed
But he also has like 2000 colonists in pods so the +7 crew members is pretty insignificant
The part where the white alien that just stands there for a moment and then freaks out was the best thing about this film, more effective than anything. I'm going to pretend I didn't learn that an android basically created the aliens that we are familiar with. The original 4 films were basically about humans trying to control something completely foreign to them that is not theirs to control.
Dan MacWilliams I
Why does David's hair grow at all? He doesn't have a beard, so was he just being lazy or what?
and as synth he has no oganics so I call BS
oh god when i saw it i groaned. why
So the audience knows the difference between David and Walter. Plus it's a way to show how he took Walter's spot. I know, it's ridiculous.
He took the hair from whatever her name was because he wanted to try a new style
@@miguelpadeiro762 he just wants to be gender neutral. Lol
Lol i just noticed that ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS WEAR THEIR HEMLETS and all of the movie wouldve been nothing
sagi alex it shall be that way. But based on what happened in Prometheus, I think they would take down their helmets once they detected that the air is breathable. They would still get infectious anyway
Not if they were real explorers. In real life they wouldn't take their helmets off even if the air was breathable. Not because of an alien infection but simply because a normal virus can kill you if you have no immunity to it.
it only delay they dead, when they meet David, they likely gonna take they helmet off anyway.
Holy shit, you’re right. Unless that blue goo is also acidic and can enter your body regardless, just like the facehugger.
Gemnist blue? It's black? What movie are you watching
16:30 cinema sins should have 10 sin points for missing the oppurtunity for a "hello my baby" joke
The Franco Flambé!!! 😂😂😂😂 Nailed it!
You actually can skydive without a parachute.
But you can only do it once.
Most of the time
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-435377/The-man-fell-12-000-ft---survived.html
Peter Maguire I always heard it as: You don't need a parachute to skydive. You need a parachute to skydive twice.
Yea, it's one of those technical limitations we face as human beings
My main issues with this movie
1. As mentioned in the sins why is Mother dumber than Walter. Half of the stuff he was responsible for could have been automated. He would be necessary for activities that could only be handled hands on and Mother could not do herself.
2. You'd think the crew chamber would have some sort of shielding and life support would have an independent power circuit.
3. If you have a Walter why are humans doing space walks to repair the ship? Shouldn't Walter handle both internal and external maintenance and repairs?
4. A ship with over 2000 colonists and crew and only one Walter? Surely the company could afford more than one.
5. Why does an android need to communicate with the ship verbally? Couldn't they communicate wirelessly?
6. Only one lander, plus almost the entire crew goes down in the lander, plus the Captain of the mission goes down in the lander with no idea what they are going to find on the surface or how safe it will be, plus no thought to send an unmanned probe before the crew descends, plus no thought to wait for the storm to pass before descending or to map the surface of the planet first, plus no aerial drones sent out to survey the landscape once they land.
7. NO HELMETS!!! Oh but they all carry guns like that would save them from alien small pox.
8. Only one person left to guard the lander.
9. No quarantine procedure and med bay is 5 miles away from the entrance of the lander. They never attempt to incapacitate the first infected guy while he's convulsing.
10. Plant spores to neomorphs....right.... cause science. PS. Where are all the dead animal bodies and bones?
11. Weren't engineers twice the height of humans? But their dead bodies are not.
12. Advanced and ancient alien civilization that survived for millions of years, and which created life on other planets, wiped out in one afternoon by biological weapons created by their own scientists, carried on one ship, which inexplicably everyone comes outside to watch when it arrives. Single and apparently only existing city of advanced civilization made completely out of stone and has no signs of any type of advanced technology what so ever.
13. Having David be the one that created the Xenomorph completely breaks alien canon. The crew in the first alien movie found a crashed "engineers" ship with a cargo of Xenomorph eggs and a dead pilot where his chest burst open.
Grayson J. Stedman jr.
NUMBER 13 - EXACTLY!!!!
Actually, hold on. It has been stated that those are not Engineers. They are just another seeded people. You can clearly see from their civilization that they are not remotely as advanced as the Engineers.
Number 10, exactly, but more like, since the black goo mutated worms into hammerpedes, why aren't there more viscious lifeforms around? There should be more than just TREES and those sporepods/eggsacks or w/e they were.
I'm just so dang happy to read point 13. I thought I was the only one who had noticed this, because it does indeed break canon completely and irreconcilably . This should be the first thing any YT video complains about regarding Covenant. All the other stuff is up for debate, but this one point is just not. He wasn't even just dead, but fossilized and therefore thousands of years old. So Dave the Dickhead can't have made the xenos, because he was made by humans thousands of years after the eng in Alien was killed by a chest burster. I can't believe I had to wait for your comment to see this even mentioned by someone else. Mad props, bruh!
And they think six weeks is longer than 7 years?? Yes i trully mean it, 6 weeks awake and 7 years in cryosleep, obviously cryosleep is shorter because you will sleep all the way. And what kind of colony ship decide to break into another route and settle on another planet? They are not refugee nor explorer, they are colonists under a company. Should blew the ship up for save the whole human race
Also a big sin for David posing as Walter for knowing the passcode to access the mother ships command functions.
I'm sure that there were parts on Walter that David switch out. He's an android. A really smart one. Walter was spare parts.
You forgot about the sin when Oram and David were down in the egg hatchery catacomb and David tells him "Take a look! Something so see!" Oram obediently stuck his face right above the egg and the rest is history. I think the script was written for mentally-impaired people, it's mindblowingly dumb!
Prometheus is just as stupid. Ridley Scott has gone senile, he can't follow a decent plot anymore.
LMFAO
Wew Lad We all know you mouth off online because you can't fight in real life.
@@wwld9823 Maybe there weren't any complaints about that in the 1st movie because because he wasn't being asked to do it by a creepy android who obviously loves xenomorphs?
That was literally the moment I walked out of the movie, the sheer stupidity level was just too much.
Only 90s kids will remember the old sin counter
Why did he get rid of the first counter in the first place?
Foxy It died
Foxy go watch the everything wrong with Fate of the Furious video
im 1 of them
You know it doesn't matter, probably weren't even born in Generation X
is he the real slim shade killed me
BigGroovy Flex The Real Slim SHADY. Do you speak English???
+Diego “D-Man” Manni It was obviously a auto-correct. Calm down.
OMG .. is that JUSSIE 'fake it till you make it' SMOLLETT
LMAO
Just another sin to add to this movie.
Back before he dug his own grave...lyin ass😂😂😂
I call him Juicy now.
Juicy finally got that big rod jabbed through his mouth. I heard he showed the police the clip of him dying in this movie as evidence for the crime.
For all the people tell him to do IT 2017, get it through your head.
Still. In. Theaters.
Spencer Jones I guess there will always be people new to the channel that don't get how this works.
Pretty sure most of them were talking about the original IT
Spencer Jones IT (2017) is amazing
dracson237 what are the chances that people start requesting the original at a time when a remake comes out? They’re talking about the remake or else they would specify the original.
BintonGaming Because cinema sins usually does the original before the remake.
"Gee, Tennessee. Too soon, man"
I thought the same when I first watched the movie. :D
I love how it's still sin counter 2.0
Of course it is, the original sin counter died.
I hope they fix the first one
Watching this 2 years later reminds me how much I have forgotten about this movie. What a mess that was...
first rule after landing on an alien planet
LOCK THE DAMNED DOORS!
Only rule lol but yea u said it better
prequel of first rule: send down a f*k%n unmanned probe/drone. Then send down the robot (in a suit) and sterilise it when it returns.
FFS they even had a lady collecting samples of the water with a syringe and no suit.
YOU GET TO ESCAPE THIS ALIEN ATTACK WHEN YOU LOCK THIS GODAM DOOR
Am I the only one bothered by the fact that the couple in the shower are setting the mood by listening to A SONG RELEASED 90 YEARS BEFORE??? it's not even a classic, just a Paolo Nutini song from 2014.
Today it would be like having shower sex while listening to "I'm looking over a four-leaf clover" by Nick Lucas.
Heh! Good observation.
Carlos Rosas, thanks.
Antonino Scionti, I imagine future people like listening to a mixture of dubstep and djent.
Paulo Nutini, the sound of the future
Music is timeless.
this move actually makes Alien 3 look well put together. An achievement in itself.
Indeed. Ridley Scott has made the best Alien movie and also the two worst Alien movies. I think he's gone senile.
+Michael Cox Alien 3 is not bad at all, it is just very different to the Alien movies which came before. It's like the 1984 Dune, you have to watch it several times.
NewStarConstellation I used to hate Alien 3 the first time I watched it, but know i think it is definitely one of my favorites in the franchise, the best after the first two for sure.
After watching all the movies several times, I think 3 does a fantastic job capturing the horror we felt in the first movie. It's a purposefully brutal movie that is merciless, killing off the best character immediately before he finishes a character arc that gives a sense that no one is safe just because you like their character. I personally think it's very Alien and I'm not sure why it's so hated.
"Ridley Scott has made the best Alien movie and also the two worst Alien movies. I think he's gone senile."
He has stopped caring. "Grind them out" says Ridley Scott.
14:20 the way this should be done is to begin the movie by showing us all of them alive, well and happy _taking_ a group picture together. Then they can remind us of that moment by showing the picture near the end.
When the movie starts off with an emergency in which one of them dies before we ever met him, that doesn't work. Copying from better movies without really understanding what they did is common, but from you we were expecting better.
Never forget. The first sin counter...
Remember remeber, the 5th of November; remember remember the first sinth counter.
BMAN488877 i don't get it🤔🤔
Where were you when the sin counter went down?
Michael Wunsch was the sin counter broke because of fate of the furious??
+cacingtanah cicakkobeng Yes!
Stormtrooper School? I beg your pardon, but that is clearly the Xcom Rookie School's style.
*98% Chance to hit*
*Misses*
David becoming walter as quickly as he did was one of those things that made me say screw this movie. Jesus. Not even counting the fact he swallowed all those embryos. Unless he just has embryos in his stomach all the time.
It took that long for you to say screw this movie? It was a piece of shit from start to finish. There's not a single redeeming factor in it. Random people could have been selected to make up the crew and they would have done a better job than the mentally challenged characters we got. What pissed me off most about that David/Walter thing at the end was that they actually tried to play it off as a twist. They actually thought the audience would be dumb enough to not figure out that David took Walter's place. I thought for sure it was just something we were supposed to know, then the very ending of the movie tried to play it off as some big revelation. Apparently Ridley Scott has become a complete moron and should never be allowed near a movie set again.
It's hard to pick just one thing, but I think the worst part of the movie was when Oram walks in on "generic female #3"s head floating in a pool of water and an alien eating her body.
- On a side note, there's absolutely no reason why the aliens wouldn't be able to get into this giant catacomb, but the creepy android we just met told us it's safe, so I'm going to immediately wander off by myself to find somewhere I can wash my face. -
But back to my original point. So Oram sees this and "creepy android" appears behind him and seems to admire the alien. Oram kills the alien, which makes "creepy android" scream at him. Then "creepy android" tells Oram to follow him so he can explain things. Dumbass doesn't question a single thing and follows him without hesitation. "Creepy android" takes him to a room filled with what is obviously experiments to create xenomorphs. "Creepy android" literally tells Oram his entire evil plan and then says everything there was a failure, but his successes are in a dark cave which he immediately tells Oram to go into. ORAM, WITHOUT HESITATION, GOES INTO THE FUCKING CAVE LIKE A FUCKING MORON.
Nothing in this shithole of a movie was good, from the 4th grade writing and idiotic dialogue/characters to the shitty plot that must have taken them a whole 10 seconds to come up with. The stupidity of it all made me cheer for each one of those character's deaths. They all deserved what they got.
elementblue780 Alright, come up with a better plot in 10 secomds. I'm waiting.
EDIT: Oh, and remember, you haven't had a previous movie criticized so no pressure.
It would have been a bigger twist if it turned out that Walter *did* win after teasing that it might be David, and it was a happy ending. They went for the super cliche ending.
I was waiting for Walter to have turned evil the way David wanted. But super cliche ending won the votes :/
My big problem was that no one even questioned that David could be Walter. The people in this movie don't react like people.
This actually might be one of my favorite Alien movies. The sheer atmosphere is incredible, the visuals are great, and the plot is at least relatively enjoyable. I can overlook this movie’s flaws, because I really enjoy it
This whole movie could have been avoided if they wore a helmet
Honestly, what did Scott do to his own franchise
It's called "milking".
Battlefield 1 I don't have a franchise.
I honestly enjoy where it's going.
Some of the nitpicks are relevant, a lot aren't.
Why does an alien planet have the same species of ferns and grasses and trees as found on earth as just about every alien planet in movies that contains a forest or a jungle? People should've bought my "Impact" a James Grider novel linked in my videos instead of this movie.
Free Speech ur comment won this given week's internets... I'm fucking laughing till now hahahaha
I feel like when It (2017) comes out on blu ray, CinemaSins will sin it every time New Kids on the Block is mentioned, which is approximately 3-4 times. I'm calling those 3-4 sins.
16:40 outtake might be the best one on the channel. Also, I can't believe you didn't sin more the Daniels-swinging from the rope as the plane flies around and she nearly gets fried by the engines 99 times.
"His love gave puke birth to a pointy rage baby."
"You are such a disappointment to me" That is how I feel about this movie.
Jon Stewart same
Thank God I didn't go see it.
Brad Hoover you saved money
Brad Hoover
It wasn't bad tho... Pretty entertaining for the most part... Just not amazing.
Pariah Carey there wasn't nearly enough alien scenes for me
Next week has gotta be Captain Underpants.
Christopher that's a funny way of saying emoji movie.
Christopher I liked the movie but you're right
Piggeh Emoji Movie 1. Isn't in the superhero genre and 2. Isn't out on DVD yet
Piggeh Well Emoji Movie and then there's an actual Captain Underpants movie
Lego batman?
"He did that to himself solely for the audience" Phahaha! So very true! You know, there are movies that kill franchises. And for Alien, "Prometheus" did it. "Covenant" was nothing but a death rattle.
I was so expecting the "Country Music in a Science-Fiction/Thriller Movie" sin when the "Take Me Home" - John Denver plays on the recording they picked up and he didn't give that as a sin and I am not sure if I'm disappointed or happy because of it...
Hangaroid he gave it a win in his cinema wins video
Leon Grosso they are 2 different people
wellprepared 40 this looks like the case of
*WHOOOOOOOOOO THE FUCK CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARES?*
Christian Quiles this well prepared dude seems like he just posts on every video relating to the movie industry. If he's that insecure about people not believing in his theory, then why does he expect anyone to care, let alone listen?
Christian Quiles this well prepared dude seems like he just posts on every video relating to the movie industry. If he's that insecure about people not believing in his theory, then why does he expect anyone to care, let alone listen?
I feel a great amount of sins approaching (emoji movie)
windsor jean-charles rip sin counter again
windsor jean-charles we need 2000 backup sin counters
no
me too
It'll hit RUclips harder then when Hurricane Harvey hit Texas....too soon?
Dont ignore the emoji movie, that movie will need a movie sin counter 3.0
sin counter will be destroyed again
Kiefer Haase the cinema sins video will be longer than the actual movie
Kiefer Haase I'm more worried the guy might have a heart attack from the how bad it is
I refused to watch it when it went out, and i forgot its existence, so i comment this thing only now.
The plot twist/cliché of the 2 identical people switching is so overused that the real surprised would have been that the android at the end was actually the right one.
Yes, if they wanted the "evil android" anyway they could have made so it was corrupted by the other one, and killed the alien and saved those people because it wanted to make its separated branch that obey to him.
'Is he the real slim shady' DED
The reason David sort of helped the crew to kill that alien in the ship was to test it's intelligence and see its flaws to make it a more effective predator in the future.
supertechnoman11 Playing with genetic mutation or dna I guess
supertechnoman11 Nah it makes sense. I will give the movie that. The notion that David, a synthetic, learned to create is a great plot point. He no longer was satisfied with just recreating things, he instead arts and crafted his way to a new species. Meanwhile Xenomorphs only target biological entities so he can observe them so long as they don't presume him to be a threat. David was the only saving grace for the film everything else was sub par at best
+O'Dain Clarke David creating the xenomorphs both screws up the lore and makes the aliens a lot less interesting.
Good thing the novelisation made it clear that David simply copied an existing alien egg made by the Engineer that he found in the city. The book is basically the damage control mode for this shit movie.
"Good thing the novelisation made it clear that David simply copied an existing alien egg made by the Engineer that he found in the city. The book is basically the damage control mode for this shit movie."
Oh thank god.
Fuck the idea of David making an Xenomorph species. It doesn't hold its ground. Not everything has to be fucking poetic. "Reeeee he was created and he learned to create11!!!!" So do humans. We're created, and we learn to create. It's not poetic or special. Plus the idea behind the Xenomorph was always that it was a weapon that betrayed its creator, which is far more poetic than creationism.
+DavidMN Honestly I'm still surprised people thought David created the species in the first place, considering all of those murals in Prometheus depicting facehuggers and xenomorphs.
Oh well, at least we have an outright admission that David did not create anything.
This movie all happened because someone decided it would be a good idea to take a shortcut through space to get inside the ship faster...
TreyTrey22 This movie happened because the entire crew of the Covenant forgot to take protective headgear like the crew of Prometheus did
Except the crew of the Prometheus was even worse. They brought full suits complete with helmets and took them off as soon as they entered the weird alien ship that nobody has any clues about other than 'the air is breathable'. Could've been all kinds of weird freaky shit just floating in the air.
No need for protection. They were originally going to a planet that they're systems did a full survey of. They deemed it safe. Then they found another planet closer that was a better viable option and safer according to the scans. So there's no need for safety suits
@@Loremaster85 in prometheus they're computers scared the planets atmosphere and it said it was clener than earths. And we know that's they're probs are able to detect lifeforms. Also this tech was used in prometheus which is 10 yrs b4 covenant. So it's ok to belive that they're scanner tech got better with time.
For what it's worth, I think David kept Tennessee and Daniels alive to experiment on them.
That guy smoked a cigarette. For all the time in hyper sleep, the Nicotine would have already worked out of his system. He would have no desire to smoke.
plus why would you smoke on a planet like that, there could be gasses in the atmosphere that absorb that shit so you would literally be putting carcinogenic chemicals into the atmosphere of a planet you where hoping to colonize like wtf
Smart observation. Even if he still did have a slight desire, the amount he smoked should have made him sick due to his inexistent tolerance!
I appreciated Ridley Scott's anti-tobacco message
True, but then again he could just really want a cigarette, regardless of addiction.
ehm the point of hypersleep is that your systems almost stand still .FAIL
My #1 problem with this movie was how they just killed off Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace) for _reasons_ and didn't even do it in an elegant way. It's just "Oh, yeah, that one person we mentioned a few minutes ago and you're all so eager to see, well, she's dead...so yeah...that happened."
Lord Krythic why are you not satisfied? They'll explain it in the next movie In 3-4 years
Yeah... like they explain everything is every sequel... oh wait, they NEVER DO!!
Title correction: - Everything IS Wrong With Alien: Covenant
Jim Guppy not really. Why is everyone so harsh on this film
Cuz it's shit.
Ollie Bull-Lifely It shit on the Xenomorph lore.
Jake Long Have you seen any other Alien movies?
Ollie Bull-Lifely
-Horrible Special Effects
-Characters are Stupid as Shit
-Convoluted Plot
-Characters Get Developed After they die.
-Everything else
Franco's cameo is just a "we want Franco in this film but he costs too much"
So sad they canceled that other alien movie that was in progress for this bullshit.
And by Neill Blomkamp, no less, who frankly would've handled it at least 10 times better. Ridley Scott just doesn't know how to handle his own franchise anymore.
@@Maverick2736 exactly he had his time and lost the touch and after all this time it's like he didn't want to take the time to make a great movie again like alien and aliens
I would have preferred Neill Blomkemp's version. Heard he was planning o. Bringing back Sigourney Weaver and Michael Biehn.
WolFaun idk, blomkamp’s movies are getting progressively worse
I don't see the point of rehashing the 1st 2 movies. Just watch them again. I would like more of the back story.
Most amazing thing about Covenant, how more than one person thought this was a good movie.
@Lang Hansen You gotta be kidding...
@@rogerjr.6588 No, we just don't want shitty writing.
the most amazing thing was R Scott thought it was so good he put his name to it. Honestly you made Alien and then you made this piece of crap and you did not know the film sucks ? You could not tear apart a good film like this. Even fiction needs some consistency to be believable.
AHS Society When he thought it was good, he meant good for earning quick huge bucks and gaining popularity. Just lots of gore, fear, action and a badass villain (to keep the plot going) will do.
I watched the newer movies first (aka Covenant and Prometheus) and was positively surprised by the older ones. Yeah, the graphics in the newer ones are really cool and the gore is okay too I guess, but the terror from the first movie cannot be recreated. Not all of the older ones were good, Aliens was more of an action movie than anything else, Alien 3 was meh and Resurrection was completely unnecessary, but I really have a soft spot for Sigourney Weaver and how amazingly she played Ripley.
I miss sin counter
Rest in peace
turtle man/ Jurazick park I can't tell tbh but I wanna know
The last five minutes of Prometheus was better than this entire movie. Better to continue the adventures of Dr. Elizabeth Shaw! They built tension and expectation and wonder at the end of Prometheus, and then Alien: Covenant disappointed on all levels! Give it up already, Ridley Scott, and turn it over to Neil Blomkamp.