I reckon the Hummer can go faster by removing the spare wheel and swap the muddy off-road wheels with all season tires.. (IMO all are very impressive full EV pick-up trucks).. ;0)
It’s been stated before, it also makes them dangerous out of control battering rams, because they are so fast. You can’t fool Physics. They don’t stop like a Corvette.
@@poplaurentiu4148 Yep, a stickier tire will gain some time, even if its only a 1/10th or two. A set of the wheels off the Hummer SUV that's coming would have some better sizes available as its got 22s on it, so that would open up tire choice. Everything in 325/65R18 is either a mud tire or a really aggressive AT.
I couldn't stop smiling every time that Hummer launched! I know the Rivian is the fastest but just the thought of a truck as massive as the Hummer putting down that power just made me all gitty.
Hummer has a WTF mode 😂😂😂. And sounds like something from star trek when taking off. I have never heard anything like it. Like Andrea said "violent & silent"
@@JNSEA i bet the gear ratio means it has better acceleration and torque at the wheels while sacrificing top end speed. Probably a trade-off. I think the Hummer has struck the right balance baring in mind the type of vehicle. All EVs are capable of a much better 0-60 providing the gear reduction favours it.
Very cool video! That lightening pro at $45k is hard to beat even though it wasn’t the fastest. Hummer would be cool if they had a lower priced model similar to the Ford.
The Hummer will be a great vehicle.... in 10 years when you can buy a used one for 1/4 the price and replace the battery with a 1000kW/h solid state battery....
Agreed! The F-150 also appears to have far more space for people and bed size. I think it's the real full-size truck while the Rivian is unibody (think all the common SUVs you see today). Unibody rides nice but isn't built for actual work. Offroading the Rivian would probably break it. If you hit a boulder, high-centered it, or something bad that happens when offroad, the Ford is going to come out okay.
It's a race between a 3 series and 6 series. Completely different size! I prefer the Ford since it's the only real truck here with a ladder frame so you can do manly offroading things to it.
Seeing that rear view of the Hummer taking off for the 0-60 run is jaw-dropping. Imagine your average diesel dually pickup launching, clearing 60 MPH, and winning a drag race with some recent Ferraris like that.
I definitely forgot about speed limiters until the Rivian started pulling ahead, I was thinking between the aerodynamics it might be able to pull ahead further down the line, but not with that change in acceleration. I've never been a huge fan of drag races but it would be very interesting to swap to slightly better speed rated tires and remove the limiters 👍. Maybe if you could schedule a track day the dealerships would sponsor or support that effort😁
Not sure such a tire exists. The weight is so extreme on the hummer that I doubt you can find a tire that has the weight rating and a higher speed rating. It's a terrible offroad vehicle due to the weight. But it's a pretty interesting show truck.
Fun fact here, the engineers at GM discovered on first testing of the hummer ev that in watts to freedom mode, the hummer had so much power it would pull the front wheels off the ground. Respectively they had to slightly de-tune the "wtf" mode so buyers won't be doing wheelies on the street. They did mention it could possibly be tuned back up eventually if the owner desired. This just goes to show the hummer in all fairness is without a doubt the fastest vehicle here.
WHile I’m a red blooded American male, I’ve never cared for “the fastest” of cars. I’ve always gone for the most functional, cost effective and reliable with some level of creature features and comforts. You know actual everyday living.
"It went all the way to Deadhorse, Alaska on electricity!" I didn't realize the ship that carried the Lightning all along the coast of Canada was electric.
Eating the cookie during the race was fairly stupid. I used to race road courses. Bad things can happen even when going straight. These trucks can accelerate like a high performance sports car. Not having respect for that kind of power can bite you hard. Two hands on the wheel and not screwing around would be a good idea.
the fact that Ford played games and didn't really make the PRO available to everyone, and instead built a small number, and made everyone buy XLT/Lariat. I think the biggest scam is not allowing the PRO ER to everyone.. I'd consider selling my Lariat for a Pro ER, PRO is the perfect truck, it really is!
@@godzilla7148 that's actually incorrect on an extended range. Sure you can find a video that backs up your story, but we can find others that prove it's wrong. But yes the truck is still designed like a brick and if you are cruising over 70mph or have a load, it's going to eat through your battery. But at full load consider it a 50% reduction in range and an ER will do over your 90 miles. Don't forget about the regen as well.
@@torymblue2000 I've yet to see one tested at a full load. And when tested at less than a full load they're doing way less than 50%. An EV truck is useless to me as I use a truck as it's intended to be used. Hauling and pulling. The battery technology isn't quite there yet. Some of the small EV cars used for city and short trips are fine. But for hauling and pulling and longer trips. It's a hard no for me!
Nice to see the video. It might eventually come to it but I do not want to wait hours or days to recharge and be dragging a dropcord and adapters everywhere I go. I like my gas engines.
I am already there. But I do understand....they aint cheap and the range comes with a price currently. But I do know the battery tech is ever evolving. So...maybe another unknown will come along with lower prices or the current makers will throw out a lifeline.
The R1T in my driveway was $75k loaded. With a 70% charge it ran 11.83@110.x at LVMS in August. There is an owner in Colorado who ran 11.4 at Bandimere. Very few Lightning "Pros" were sold at $46k. Far more R1T's were sold at $75k. My Lariat-ER is being built 10/24/22. It is just over $90k. The "Pro" was not available, even though I was a Day One reservation. So cost is not apples to apples yet. Do not be surprised if the Pro goes up again in price. Note - The R1T tires are ~34".
My general feeling since the the Lightning was released has been that anyone thinking about ANY EV as a daily driver/commuter should consider the Lightning Pro. The utility of a truck without the penalties at the gas pump just makes so much sense. As long as you don't mind driving a full sized truck (from a size perspective), it's awesome for the price.
The R1T may be faster (marginally) but I certainly would choose a GM or Ford every time. The R1T is a midsize truck, with a tiny bed, it's really more of a impress your friends vehicle, rather than a real full size truck, which it is not. Also, what happens when your Rivian has a recall, or needs a repair, or gets into an accident? We all saw the TFL experience with Tesla, which was a nightmare, and I suspect Rivian is way worse. But in general, BEV trucks make little sense for the ways people use trucks. You can't tow with them, you can't do long road trips, and they are ghastly expensive. One thing to note, Cummins is on track to bring hydrogen combustion engines to the market in the next couple of years. They have committed to the 6.7 l and the 15 liter. Everything is the same as their diesel counterparts except they run off hydrogen. This drop in replacement technology delivers a truck that doesn't weigh much more than the diesel equivalent, has huge range similar to a diesel, can tow like a diesel, and eliminates all the carbon emissions, and 75% reduction in NOX over todays standards. The largest truck stop networks are already planning their hydrogen networks. I see hydrogen combustion engines as being a nice transition platform with great TCO for fleets, and for truck owners who want a real truck solution. Sure, it's not available today, but 12 - 24 months is not that long, especially when you consider how long people are willing to wait for a Rivian or a Lightning or a Chevy Silverado EV. Also, I like being able to fill up in a few minutes, versus the incredible long charge times to fill up a Rivian or Lightning. Remember, I am saying fill up, not just charge enough for 50 miles, 100 miles.
Understood. But things are changing in the background if you take a peek. The battery technology and the chargers are really improving. You dont have to take my word for it. The information is out there.
Can someone please tell me what practicality there is in drag racing pick up trucks? We saw what anemic performance the Lightning had with towing and hauling a load, not to mention the limited range issues, as your Alaska trip showed.
You guys are having WAY, WAY too much fun! The Lightning Pro seems the best bet. The only good thing to say about the Hummer is that it might be reliable now.
In terms of drive train, the H2 Hummer was far more reliable than any product Ford was putting out at the time...and it's not even close. Interior-wise...it was cheap typical plastic...and fell all to pieces.
As an automotive enthusiast, what an amazing time to be alive! Sure this video would have been a little cooler hearing a supercharged v-8 scream down the track or bellows of black smoke from a diesel. The fastest currently produced ICE trucks can barely compete with the electric 45k work truck. Over time ranges will be extended allowing for daily heavy footed driving. Those loud screaming vehicles are currently and will for at least most of the rest of my lifetime (at 38) be available as well. We get to see the best of the ICE and the best of the EVs isn't far off as far as acceleration and performance... given current physics anyway.
21k miles on my lightning and I love it. I will never go back. That would have been 1,312 gallons of diesel fuel @ a conservative $4.50 per gallon for a dollar total of $5,906. My home I switched providers and got .13 cents per kilowatt hour so I am under $2000 in electric costs. My truck is saving me half of my payment on diesel fuel.
Drag racing a truck is fun, but if you want to use a truck for what it is made for, liake hauling or towing, these EV trucks are almost worthless due to their lacking battery life.
These trucks are amazing performers if acceleration is one of the primary concerns. Not so much if you actually need to tow heavy trailers on varied terrain over long distances. I will keep my slow 2006 F 250 with the gas-hog V10. It is paid for.
I grew up in the 70's and we all drove muscle cars. My first car was a '71 Barracuda, that I bought used in 1977. We thought we were fast......There was NOTHING you could buy off the showroom floor that came anywhere close to the acceleration of these trucks. A Hemi Cuda would run about 14 seconds flat in a quarter mile. About 6 seconds flat 0-60, and it was pretty much king of the street. To get a car to run in the 11's back then took a whole lot of modifications, tuning, time and money. Really unbelievable that a Hummer would give a Ferrari a run for the money.
With skinny garbage tires and mild gear ratios, that's what you get. It's actually much faster and not with expensive mods. It wasn't king of the street as the 440 was quicker. The Hemi was never meant to be a street engine and was detuned for that purpose so that it could be used in proper race form legally.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Nothing was running in the 11's right off the showroom floor back then. Even a 440 six pack was running the 1/4 mile in around 14 seconds.
@@stevevice9863 As I explained, put skinny polyglass tires on any of these trucks and they won't either. You claimed expensive mods to get the Hemi in the 11s and it just isn't so. Hell, you can get a '73 SD Trans Am into really low 12s just with slicks and cat removal at the track. Seems you're avoiding the points you made with which i have taken issue and deflecting. I don't think you know much about muscle cars from the late 60s and early 70s and judging from the times you listed, they appear to be original Motor Trend times, who were known to be the slowest drivers around. Reread what I wrote, point by point and prove me wrong.
@@johnlopez4086 I would like to see how it is actually living with these things all month since they want us too trip work shopping charging everything
@hanging with Mike, had my Lightning for about a month now. Sad to say a video living with one of these trucks on the daily would be extremely boring. I know you’re wanting pull on the “how hard an EV is to live with thread”. But reality is as a daily use vehicle they’re great, (the hummer might pose parking issues lol). I drive between 50 and 80 miles daily, charge at home. No drama…
If I wanted a drag-truck, I’d appreciate this. But I want a truck to tow and haul, often for 500+ miles on a tank. I’ll stick with diesel until batteries are proven …
Please do a max tow range test, I have heard stories of guys only going 50 miles with their boat attached. I'd love to see you guys do this test since they are trucks
Not sure they are able to show negative EV truck reviews. If they are being supplied trucks to review for their channel, to many videos demonstrating poor performance may make it harder to get Trucks to review. Just an opinion
Just in case you wanna skip the quick tours
Lightning Pro vs Lightning Lariat 5:07
Lightning Pro vs R1T 8:56
R1T vs Hummer EV 13:53
Thank you for posting this...I was close to skipping this video after a minute or so.
@@missingmeantweets3266 me every time lmao
Not all hero’s wear capes. We thank you sir!
The fact that a 9 000 lbs truck running on 35" tires can do 0-60 in three and a half second is amazing
I reckon the Hummer can go faster by removing the spare wheel and swap the muddy off-road wheels with all season tires..
(IMO all are very impressive full EV pick-up trucks).. ;0)
Amazing and terrifying.
It’s been stated before, it also makes them dangerous out of control battering rams, because they are so fast. You can’t fool Physics. They don’t stop like a Corvette.
It almost bends the laws of physics.
@@poplaurentiu4148 Yep, a stickier tire will gain some time, even if its only a 1/10th or two. A set of the wheels off the Hummer SUV that's coming would have some better sizes available as its got 22s on it, so that would open up tire choice. Everything in 325/65R18 is either a mud tire or a really aggressive AT.
I couldn't stop smiling every time that Hummer launched! I know the Rivian is the fastest but just the thought of a truck as massive as the Hummer putting down that power just made me all gitty.
I'm surprised it doesn't tear up the asphalt
I am completely convinced that I don’t want a EV at this point 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎
@@zoobrizz Why dude? Please!!! Do tell... 🤔
@@zoobrizz well good luck on your non-EV lasting awhile. Eventually you won’t have a choice
Hummer has a WTF mode 😂😂😂. And sounds like something from star trek when taking off. I have never heard anything like it. Like Andrea said "violent & silent"
That is Moon hovering.. ;0)
Would’ve been cool to see a slow motion shot of the tires at launch to see how much they flex on the hummer
I'm not a EV fan but I would love to feel the torque of it pushing me in the seat.
Y'all have the best jobs ever.
Yes, we have fun!
Find a Tesla store. Just give them your license. The torque is endless.
@@cesarlaso356 good idea.
Try the Model S Plaid.
Are you guys trying to make him an EV fan? Once you experience the hand of god silently pushing you forward, you never want to go back.
Andre needs to win an Emmy for his reactions during just about any drag race.
That wasn't just fast for a 9000lbs truck on 35s. That was fast for purpose built sports car
Ya, I wish my C5 Corvette was that fast.
for 114K you can make just about anything run 12s in the quarter and sub 4 second 0-60
I'm glad the hummer had to slow down at the end of the drag race, as the earth's rotation was disrupted until he hit the brakes.
Haha. Exactly. That thing is a BEAST
Remove the speed limiter of that hummer EV and lets see what happens to that Rivian
@@JNSEA i bet the gear ratio means it has better acceleration and torque at the wheels while sacrificing top end speed. Probably a trade-off.
I think the Hummer has struck the right balance baring in mind the type of vehicle.
All EVs are capable of a much better 0-60 providing the gear reduction favours it.
See EV's are awesome! We got 2 full passes before a 4 hour recharge!
Good chemistry with this trio. They produce good content together
I'd take the Pro
114k MSRP but you'll pay almost 200k for the Hummer if you want it right now.
I paid 127 plus TT&T
I saw some go for 315k
Keep going 🤣🤣🤣
I wouldn’t pay $60,000. For the hummer, I just think the designers lost their way, is it really utilitarian?
1. Rivian 11.89
2. Hummer 12.23
3. Lightning Lariat 13.07
4. Lightning Pro 13.21
Ok.. i'll take the Lightning Pro.. BTW do they ship in Europe ?
Not all hero's wear capes.
@@poplaurentiu4148 You can barely get one in the US right now, lol.
I'll take that Hummer.
I’ll take an R1T or R1S thank you
That hummer is insane
Very cool video! That lightening pro at $45k is hard to beat even though it wasn’t the fastest. Hummer would be cool if they had a lower priced model similar to the Ford.
The Hummer will be a great vehicle.... in 10 years when you can buy a used one for 1/4 the price and replace the battery with a 1000kW/h solid state battery....
Compared to the Ford Lightening Lariat at 81k...the Hummer is damn good deal.
Agreed! The F-150 also appears to have far more space for people and bed size. I think it's the real full-size truck while the Rivian is unibody (think all the common SUVs you see today). Unibody rides nice but isn't built for actual work. Offroading the Rivian would probably break it. If you hit a boulder, high-centered it, or something bad that happens when offroad, the Ford is going to come out okay.
GMC is bringing out lower cost Hummers over the next year or two. They started with the most expensive model first.
@@stevequantie8064 That's actually not true at all. The Rivian is very off-road capable. There's another channel that shows this.
9,000 pounds moving that fast is insane
More like deadly and dangerous and ready to kill
@@MrChevrolet94 As opposed to your corvette which can do 150? GTFO
That race between the Rivian and the Hummer was amazing! The photo finish really came in handy
I honestly did not expect that chungus ass Hummer to be as fast as it was. It even made the Rivian have to actually put in effort lol
It's a race between a 3 series and 6 series. Completely different size! I prefer the Ford since it's the only real truck here with a ladder frame so you can do manly offroading things to it.
How is the road and wind noise in the hummer with the removable roof?
Tommy just casually eating a cookie while drag racing.
Spilling crumbs all over some guys expensive truck …
Hum, what's up Doc?
The amount of power needed to throw that much steel is incredible.
It was good to see Case (or is it Kase?) in the drag videos, as he is an excellent presenter and bring nothing but positives to the interactions.
Seeing that rear view of the Hummer taking off for the 0-60 run is jaw-dropping. Imagine your average diesel dually pickup launching, clearing 60 MPH, and winning a drag race with some recent Ferraris like that.
They do go watch some quarters with diesels
Also don't say the F150 is only $45k, you won't find one for double that, try 3x
dang that hummer is insane! 9000 pounds and does 0-60 in sports car territory
It’s ready to kill people in it’s path
In supersports car territory.
Seeing them all side-by-side at the end, he Hummer EV is by far the coolest truck. The Rivian is nice, but the hummer is just awesome.
The hummer looks really nice, but I like the rivian just as much becuase of its simplicity
Same but so far I want the Silverado or the sierra EV as my next daily lol
Imagine how fast GM can make an EV Vette if they did 3 seconds 0-60 with a 9k beasst🤣🤣
I definitely forgot about speed limiters until the Rivian started pulling ahead, I was thinking between the aerodynamics it might be able to pull ahead further down the line, but not with that change in acceleration. I've never been a huge fan of drag races but it would be very interesting to swap to slightly better speed rated tires and remove the limiters 👍. Maybe if you could schedule a track day the dealerships would sponsor or support that effort😁
Speed limiters = wtf light🙁🥱
Shame that for a vehicle that goes 0-60 that fast you’re limited to 106.
What kind of vehicle reaches its speed limiter in the 1/4 mile.
Not sure such a tire exists. The weight is so extreme on the hummer that I doubt you can find a tire that has the weight rating and a higher speed rating. It's a terrible offroad vehicle due to the weight. But it's a pretty interesting show truck.
The tires on the Hummer are rated at around 119, but most gm trucks are limited at 106
Fun fact here, the engineers at GM discovered on first testing of the hummer ev that in watts to freedom mode, the hummer had so much power it would pull the front wheels off the ground. Respectively they had to slightly de-tune the "wtf" mode so buyers won't be doing wheelies on the street. They did mention it could possibly be tuned back up eventually if the owner desired. This just goes to show the hummer in all fairness is without a doubt the fastest vehicle here.
That was pretty funny,”Where am I?” Lol
Great test again that Rivian is fast with one extra electric motor. 0-60 is awesome.😎🇨🇦💪👍
WHile I’m a red blooded American male, I’ve never cared for “the fastest” of cars. I’ve always gone for the most functional, cost effective and reliable with some level of creature features and comforts. You know actual everyday living.
Spectacular video. I love the drag races and this one was full of surprises. Thanks guys and thanks Rivian Dad
"Oh Look!... Guys Look!... I got it up" - Andre 2022
was the highlight of this video
11:06
When you also factor in just how well the Rivian drives on the road, carving canyons like a sports car, it makes the Rivian even more special.
"It went all the way to Deadhorse, Alaska on electricity!" I didn't realize the ship that carried the Lightning all along the coast of Canada was electric.
Imagine working and having fun at the same time! Great job guys😎
So, let's do the test that will really reflect what these trucks will be used for: getting groceries...
Love that Rivian! Wish I could afford one😂
They will have more affordable ones later
Between the two Lightnings. I'd rather have the Pro dash as the bigger screen looks tacked on.
You made this Rivian owner very proud. 😁
Yeah you can’t afford a real truck and buy a Mickey Mouse truck….
Eating the cookie during the race was fairly stupid. I used to race road courses. Bad things can happen even when going straight. These trucks can accelerate like a high performance sports car. Not having respect for that kind of power can bite you hard. Two hands on the wheel and not screwing around would be a good idea.
Even more important, how inconsiderate is it to scatter crumbs all over a borrowed truck ?!
I NEVER eat in my car. It’s kinda like crapping the bed …
the fact that Ford played games and didn't really make the PRO available to everyone, and instead built a small number, and made everyone buy XLT/Lariat. I think the biggest scam is not allowing the PRO ER to everyone.. I'd consider selling my Lariat for a Pro ER, PRO is the perfect truck, it really is!
If you never haul anything it might be. With modest loads 90 miles on a full charge is pushing it!
@@godzilla7148 that's actually incorrect on an extended range. Sure you can find a video that backs up your story, but we can find others that prove it's wrong. But yes the truck is still designed like a brick and if you are cruising over 70mph or have a load, it's going to eat through your battery. But at full load consider it a 50% reduction in range and an ER will do over your 90 miles. Don't forget about the regen as well.
@@torymblue2000 I've yet to see one tested at a full load. And when tested at less than a full load they're doing way less than 50%. An EV truck is useless to me as I use a truck as it's intended to be used. Hauling and pulling. The battery technology isn't quite there yet. Some of the small EV cars used for city and short trips are fine. But for hauling and pulling and longer trips. It's a hard no for me!
Glad I woke up from my frunk-nap BEFORE the drag race! :)
Nice to see the video. It might eventually come to it but I do not want to wait hours or days to recharge and be dragging a dropcord and adapters everywhere I go. I like my gas engines.
I am already there. But I do understand....they aint cheap and the range comes with a price currently. But I do know the battery tech is ever evolving. So...maybe another unknown will come along with lower prices or the current makers will throw out a lifeline.
Just remember you can tow further with your gas engine also
I like gasoline engines too, but compared to these EV's they are slow as hell.
For the price,I’ll just take the Lightening Pro. Great video!
Lightning?
The R1T in my driveway was $75k loaded. With a 70% charge it ran 11.83@110.x at LVMS in August. There is an owner in Colorado who ran 11.4 at Bandimere. Very few Lightning "Pros" were sold at $46k. Far more R1T's were sold at $75k. My Lariat-ER is being built 10/24/22. It is just over $90k. The "Pro" was not available, even though I was a Day One reservation. So cost is not apples to apples yet. Do not be surprised if the Pro goes up again in price.
Note - The R1T tires are ~34".
Both hands on the wheel Tommy especially when you're driving someone else's truck at 100+ mph
Can’t wait for tesla cybertruck to enter the game 😂
I loved the frunk race 😂😂
I’m going into the tire business. With the weight of EV’s, tire stock is going nowhere but up.
My general feeling since the the Lightning was released has been that anyone thinking about ANY EV as a daily driver/commuter should consider the Lightning Pro. The utility of a truck without the penalties at the gas pump just makes so much sense. As long as you don't mind driving a full sized truck (from a size perspective), it's awesome for the price.
If you drove it back and forth to work and charged it every night while it's under warranty.
@@jamesm568 - Why would someone want to use a full-sized pickup as a commuter car ??
@@sking2173 Most people that have trucks don't even use a truck like a truck anyway.
Penalties at the gas station? Are you REALLY going there when you're talking about an EV!
@@jamesm568 - So you’re saying a lot it guys have small penises ??
It’s good to see the Tesla Truck finally competing, oh wait, my bad. Maybe in 2032.
And by 2050, Elon will have his 2020 robotaxis ready to hit the streets…
The R1T may be faster (marginally) but I certainly would choose a GM or Ford every time. The R1T is a midsize truck, with a tiny bed, it's really more of a impress your friends vehicle, rather than a real full size truck, which it is not. Also, what happens when your Rivian has a recall, or needs a repair, or gets into an accident? We all saw the TFL experience with Tesla, which was a nightmare, and I suspect Rivian is way worse. But in general, BEV trucks make little sense for the ways people use trucks. You can't tow with them, you can't do long road trips, and they are ghastly expensive. One thing to note, Cummins is on track to bring hydrogen combustion engines to the market in the next couple of years. They have committed to the 6.7 l and the 15 liter. Everything is the same as their diesel counterparts except they run off hydrogen. This drop in replacement technology delivers a truck that doesn't weigh much more than the diesel equivalent, has huge range similar to a diesel, can tow like a diesel, and eliminates all the carbon emissions, and 75% reduction in NOX over todays standards. The largest truck stop networks are already planning their hydrogen networks. I see hydrogen combustion engines as being a nice transition platform with great TCO for fleets, and for truck owners who want a real truck solution. Sure, it's not available today, but 12 - 24 months is not that long, especially when you consider how long people are willing to wait for a Rivian or a Lightning or a Chevy Silverado EV. Also, I like being able to fill up in a few minutes, versus the incredible long charge times to fill up a Rivian or Lightning. Remember, I am saying fill up, not just charge enough for 50 miles, 100 miles.
Understood. But things are changing in the background if you take a peek. The battery technology and the chargers are really improving. You dont have to take my word for it. The information is out there.
All I can say is WOW. We drag raced in the early 70s and fast was anything in the high 12s and low 13s. Amazing for a 9000lb Tortugus Maximus.
Can someone please tell me what practicality there is in drag racing pick up trucks? We saw what anemic performance the Lightning had with towing and hauling a load, not to mention the limited range issues, as your Alaska trip showed.
Uhm, you mean limited range and not anemic performance right? That thing actually tows like a beast.
The range was bad. But the towing was actually great!
I'd sure like to see what the Hummer could do on a prepped track and like a 10.5 Radial with the software's top speed adjusted...
You tube keeps cutting out the ford lighting part lol idk why
I'm trying to watch the vid but won't get passed the for lighting part. Oh well I must be a good video I give up
Andre when you say you're at High Altitude you mean the truck is quicker?
The electric one has less wind resistance at altitude. Gas trucks lose hp when at altitude
Yes because the air is thinner at high altitude than at sea level. Less drag
Higher altitude with internal combustion engines are slower due to less air density
Higher altitude actually helps electrics, because there's less aerodynamic drag and no less power.
@@ThunderCat19D Then an electric truck should be faster with the air being less dense
This race was electrifying! it shocked me to be honest!
I see what you did there.
😯😬☺😆🤣😆
I will be impressed when they can drive 1000 miles to a charge and charge in 15 minutes.
Once that happens you’ll probably complain that it should be solar powered with unlimited range.
@@2kool4ukewlguy77 lol now your thinking!! haha
I would be impressed if a gas car could go that far
@@allenmoody7527 eco diesel ram can go 1000 miles on a tank.
@@jamespenner1412 Very impressive
Thanks for the race. Great to see the new hummer
I miss the trx
You can find it in the Lightning’s dust.
Yeah, I just think it is more entertaining and interesting than these EVs.
@@capt_ramius actually at sea level they are very close. These guys are more than a mile above sea level
thanks for showing how these trucks would be used.... they are toys
I wonder how fast the hummer could actually do the quarter with out the speed limiter 🤔
If you disable it the car might shut off and not turn back on or something like that haha
It would be right around 11.8 seconds.
Awesome video by my friends at TFL
You guys are having WAY, WAY too much fun! The Lightning Pro seems the best bet. The only good thing to say about the Hummer is that it might be reliable now.
In terms of drive train, the H2 Hummer was far more reliable than any product Ford was putting out at the time...and it's not even close. Interior-wise...it was cheap typical plastic...and fell all to pieces.
How much power was used in the battery pack for those races?
Is the AC outlet in the Hummer EV really limited to 400W output?
Inverters are expensive, so they probably pulled a Chevy part for it
Yes. Just like any other Chevy……..
That Ford f150 lighting look sharp
Looking forward to seeing what Ford does with off road performance electric Ranger.
As an automotive enthusiast, what an amazing time to be alive! Sure this video would have been a little cooler hearing a supercharged v-8 scream down the track or bellows of black smoke from a diesel. The fastest currently produced ICE trucks can barely compete with the electric 45k work truck. Over time ranges will be extended allowing for daily heavy footed driving. Those loud screaming vehicles are currently and will for at least most of the rest of my lifetime (at 38) be available as well. We get to see the best of the ICE and the best of the EVs isn't far off as far as acceleration and performance... given current physics anyway.
Any estimate on replacement battery cost and availability after the abusive driving in high performance vehicles?
Ya, under towing conditions as well.
come back in 15 years and ask the question
100k per battery and 50k to dispose of the toxic waste.
Over $20k per battery on the Hummer EV
21k miles on my lightning and I love it. I will never go back. That would have been 1,312 gallons of diesel fuel @ a conservative $4.50 per gallon for a dollar total of $5,906. My home I switched providers and got .13 cents per kilowatt hour so I am under $2000 in electric costs. My truck is saving me half of my payment on diesel fuel.
Drag racing a truck is fun, but if you want to use a truck for what it is made for, liake hauling or towing, these EV trucks are almost worthless due to their lacking battery life.
Awesome video guys. Loved it, cool and good to see Andre having some serious fun
Wow that hummer is impressive. I thought it would be slower than all three due to the size.
Trucks should be limited to less than 100 mph. Too much air turbulence under the vehicle makes for unstable conditions
These trucks are amazing performers if acceleration is one of the primary concerns. Not so much if you actually need to tow heavy trailers on varied terrain over long distances. I will keep my slow 2006 F 250 with the gas-hog V10. It is paid for.
This channel, is ridiculously awesome!!!!! Thank you
I grew up in the 70's and we all drove muscle cars. My first car was a '71 Barracuda, that I bought used in 1977. We thought we were fast......There was NOTHING you could buy off the showroom floor that came anywhere close to the acceleration of these trucks. A Hemi Cuda would run about 14 seconds flat in a quarter mile. About 6 seconds flat 0-60, and it was pretty much king of the street. To get a car to run in the 11's back then took a whole lot of modifications, tuning, time and money. Really unbelievable that a Hummer would give a Ferrari a run for the money.
With skinny garbage tires and mild gear ratios, that's what you get. It's actually much faster and not with expensive mods. It wasn't king of the street as the 440 was quicker. The Hemi was never meant to be a street engine and was detuned for that purpose so that it could be used in proper race form legally.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Nothing was running in the 11's right off the showroom floor back then. Even a 440 six pack was running the 1/4 mile in around 14 seconds.
@@stevevice9863 As I explained, put skinny polyglass tires on any of these trucks and they won't either. You claimed expensive mods to get the Hemi in the 11s and it just isn't so. Hell, you can get a '73 SD Trans Am into really low 12s just with slicks and cat removal at the track. Seems you're avoiding the points you made with which i have taken issue and deflecting. I don't think you know much about muscle cars from the late 60s and early 70s and judging from the times you listed, they appear to be original Motor Trend times, who were known to be the slowest drivers around. Reread what I wrote, point by point and prove me wrong.
How far can they go? And pulling a loaded Trailer. I'll keep my Cummins. 😉
I love how going fast in a straight line is the only test anyone seems to care about lol
exactyl movin on rough terrain or stop or turning is not an option for them...
What competitive comparison would YOU like to see?
@@johnlopez4086 I would like to see how it is actually living with these things all month since they want us too trip work shopping charging everything
That was the point of this test and it's not the only thing we care about.
@hanging with Mike, had my Lightning for about a month now. Sad to say a video living with one of these trucks on the daily would be extremely boring. I know you’re wanting pull on the “how hard an EV is to live with thread”. But reality is as a daily use vehicle they’re great, (the hummer might pose parking issues lol). I drive between 50 and 80 miles daily, charge at home. No drama…
The Hummer is just insanely awesome.
If there is one dream vehicle, it’s the Hummer for me.
If I wanted a drag-truck, I’d appreciate this.
But I want a truck to tow and haul, often for 500+ miles on a tank.
I’ll stick with diesel until batteries are proven …
That Hummer is a goddamn beast. It's just mind boggling
Hummer is just a giant toy, nothing but insanity on wheels. it's the ultimate "bro, what if we" type of car.
Glad they made it.
Very capable off roader from other reviews. But most buyers that can afford it will never go off roading
Pretty cool and not a one could drive from Denver to New Orleans in 24 hours like my GMCs!
Please do a max tow range test, I have heard stories of guys only going 50 miles with their boat attached. I'd love to see you guys do this test since they are trucks
Not sure they are able to show negative EV truck reviews. If they are being supplied trucks to review for their channel, to many videos demonstrating poor performance may make it harder to get Trucks to review. Just an opinion
50 is probably about right.
Did you see the video they did with the chevy trail boss and the lightning?
From what I’ve seen the R1T gets about 45% range (~135mi) when towing 7000lbs. Not great but definitely better than 50
They already have.
Can't wait till we see the Ford lighting and the hummer off road to see which is more capable.
The Hummer EV is so dumb. "Let's make it a truck but then fill up the bed with a spare tire rack".....
I bet the bed on the Rivian is just as tiny. Only the F150 has a decent sized bed.
Hummers have always been dumb and pointless apart from the original H1 and *that* only made sense off-road.
It's an option WTF. If you don't need it or want it, just don't take it.
the Hummer is governed to 106mph tire size makes no difference,
@@IIXxSLAYERxXII you're gonna wish you had that spare tire with you when you have a blowout.
Don’t like Chase sarcastic tone toward Andrey. Someone please tell him to stop and be nice 😂😂😂
So what we've learned is that Ford made the slowest, best EV truck. 🙂
Rivian needs a cheetah or wtf mode imo. I wonder of it could do mid 11s if it had that kind of mode for drag racing? 🤔
Tommy; Driving at that speed using only one hand is not safe. What if you blown a tire? Be safe buddy!
I’ve always wondered, since many of these new vehicles have ‘semi-autonomous’ driving, how the computers react if a tire blows at highway speeds?
Tommy, like all Micas, is not too bright.
Very entertaining. Great video.
I’d take the hummer then the rivian …all are good choices ..and once the Chevy pickup comes out that may slide into 2nd bumping the rivian to 3rd
Definitely a Chevy fan boy there
brand loyalty, might as well self flagellate while you're at it.
How many miles of range do the electric frunk and tailgate use up? 😅
all the "launch" drama is beyond dumb.
just want it to go if my foot hits the floor....
soo frustrating.
How are these towing trailers up steepest inclines
Not😝