It’s Finally On - We Drag Race ALL The EV Trucks You Can Buy to See Which One RULES the Rest!

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  • ( www.allTFL.com ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our TFLstudios content, from news to videos and our podcasts! It’s Finally On - We Drag Race ALL The EV Trucks You Can Buy to See Which One RULES the Rest! Ford F-150 Lightning Pro, Lightning Lariat, Rivian R1T, and GMC Hummer EV truck!
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  • @wh33lhousediecast
    @wh33lhousediecast Год назад +313

    Just in case you wanna skip the quick tours
    Lightning Pro vs Lightning Lariat 5:07
    Lightning Pro vs R1T 8:56
    R1T vs Hummer EV 13:53

    • @missingmeantweets3266
      @missingmeantweets3266 Год назад +12

      Thank you for posting this...I was close to skipping this video after a minute or so.

    • @TheGuyfromValhalla
      @TheGuyfromValhalla Год назад +2

      @@missingmeantweets3266 me every time lmao

    • @jasonmilner8609
      @jasonmilner8609 Год назад +4

      Not all hero’s wear capes. We thank you sir!

  • @AgentSmith911
    @AgentSmith911 Год назад +591

    The fact that a 9 000 lbs truck running on 35" tires can do 0-60 in three and a half second is amazing

    • @poplaurentiu4148
      @poplaurentiu4148 Год назад +41

      I reckon the Hummer can go faster by removing the spare wheel and swap the muddy off-road wheels with all season tires..
      (IMO all are very impressive full EV pick-up trucks).. ;0)

    • @BeaudoinEric
      @BeaudoinEric Год назад +18

      Amazing and terrifying.

    • @joelpierce3940
      @joelpierce3940 Год назад +46

      It’s been stated before, it also makes them dangerous out of control battering rams, because they are so fast. You can’t fool Physics. They don’t stop like a Corvette.

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  Год назад +47

      It almost bends the laws of physics.

    • @gmpartsguy9614
      @gmpartsguy9614 Год назад +5

      @@poplaurentiu4148 Yep, a stickier tire will gain some time, even if its only a 1/10th or two. A set of the wheels off the Hummer SUV that's coming would have some better sizes available as its got 22s on it, so that would open up tire choice. Everything in 325/65R18 is either a mud tire or a really aggressive AT.

  • @msclecarcrzy
    @msclecarcrzy Год назад +46

    Hummer has a WTF mode 😂😂😂. And sounds like something from star trek when taking off. I have never heard anything like it. Like Andrea said "violent & silent"

  • @rollaracerDX
    @rollaracerDX Год назад +91

    I couldn't stop smiling every time that Hummer launched! I know the Rivian is the fastest but just the thought of a truck as massive as the Hummer putting down that power just made me all gitty.

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss Год назад +2

      I'm surprised it doesn't tear up the asphalt

    • @zoobrizz
      @zoobrizz Год назад +1

      I am completely convinced that I don’t want a EV at this point 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎

    • @TeleTio
      @TeleTio Год назад

      @@zoobrizz Why dude? Please!!! Do tell... 🤔

    • @the0ne786
      @the0ne786 Год назад

      @@zoobrizz well good luck on your non-EV lasting awhile. Eventually you won’t have a choice

  • @levicharles996
    @levicharles996 Год назад +111

    Would’ve been cool to see a slow motion shot of the tires at launch to see how much they flex on the hummer

  • @CliffWarren
    @CliffWarren Год назад +91

    Andre needs to win an Emmy for his reactions during just about any drag race.

  • @scottyellis3442
    @scottyellis3442 Год назад +96

    I'm not a EV fan but I would love to feel the torque of it pushing me in the seat.
    Y'all have the best jobs ever.

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  Год назад +11

      Yes, we have fun!

    • @cesarlaso356
      @cesarlaso356 Год назад +3

      Find a Tesla store. Just give them your license. The torque is endless.

    • @scottyellis3442
      @scottyellis3442 Год назад +1

      @@cesarlaso356 good idea.

    • @TheRealYaro
      @TheRealYaro Год назад +1

      Try the Model S Plaid.

    • @adjust.clinic
      @adjust.clinic 10 месяцев назад

      Are you guys trying to make him an EV fan? Once you experience the hand of god silently pushing you forward, you never want to go back.

  • @patrickmcswain6852
    @patrickmcswain6852 Год назад +4

    The R1T in my driveway was $75k loaded. With a 70% charge it ran 11.83@110.x at LVMS in August. There is an owner in Colorado who ran 11.4 at Bandimere. Very few Lightning "Pros" were sold at $46k. Far more R1T's were sold at $75k. My Lariat-ER is being built 10/24/22. It is just over $90k. The "Pro" was not available, even though I was a Day One reservation. So cost is not apples to apples yet. Do not be surprised if the Pro goes up again in price.
    Note - The R1T tires are ~34".

  • @thedefinitive6296
    @thedefinitive6296 Год назад +65

    That wasn't just fast for a 9000lbs truck on 35s. That was fast for purpose built sports car

    • @hoodagooboy5981
      @hoodagooboy5981 Год назад +4

      Ya, I wish my C5 Corvette was that fast.

    • @thebubba1
      @thebubba1 Год назад +3

      for 114K you can make just about anything run 12s in the quarter and sub 4 second 0-60

  • @00coyote80
    @00coyote80 Год назад +4

    See EV's are awesome! We got 2 full passes before a 4 hour recharge!

  • @Dr-EV
    @Dr-EV Год назад +76

    I'm glad the hummer had to slow down at the end of the drag race, as the earth's rotation was disrupted until he hit the brakes.

    • @lemongavine
      @lemongavine Год назад +6

      Haha. Exactly. That thing is a BEAST

    • @JNSEA
      @JNSEA Год назад +4

      Remove the speed limiter of that hummer EV and lets see what happens to that Rivian

    • @Dr-EV
      @Dr-EV Год назад +1

      @@JNSEA i bet the gear ratio means it has better acceleration and torque at the wheels while sacrificing top end speed. Probably a trade-off.
      I think the Hummer has struck the right balance baring in mind the type of vehicle.
      All EVs are capable of a much better 0-60 providing the gear reduction favours it.

  • @flybyguy1450
    @flybyguy1450 Год назад +12

    Good chemistry with this trio. They produce good content together

  • @schuylerwelch19
    @schuylerwelch19 Год назад +30

    1. Rivian 11.89
    2. Hummer 12.23
    3. Lightning Lariat 13.07
    4. Lightning Pro 13.21

    • @poplaurentiu4148
      @poplaurentiu4148 Год назад +6

      Ok.. i'll take the Lightning Pro.. BTW do they ship in Europe ?

    • @Dwilsonmusic145
      @Dwilsonmusic145 Год назад +1

      Not all hero's wear capes.

    • @mechmat12345
      @mechmat12345 Год назад +4

      @@poplaurentiu4148 You can barely get one in the US right now, lol.

    • @punksjutgbd
      @punksjutgbd Год назад +1

      I'll take that Hummer.

    • @The-Kool-_-Aid-Man74
      @The-Kool-_-Aid-Man74 Год назад

      I’ll take an R1T or R1S thank you

  • @trabertgraneau3323
    @trabertgraneau3323 Год назад +4

    That race between the Rivian and the Hummer was amazing! The photo finish really came in handy

  • @dwhitney1000
    @dwhitney1000 Год назад +6

    All I can say is WOW. We drag raced in the early 70s and fast was anything in the high 12s and low 13s. Amazing for a 9000lb Tortugus Maximus.

  • @WhoThisGuy515
    @WhoThisGuy515 Год назад +50

    114k MSRP but you'll pay almost 200k for the Hummer if you want it right now.

    • @Stevonoles1
      @Stevonoles1 Год назад

      I paid 127 plus TT&T

    • @lesstevens2370
      @lesstevens2370 Год назад

      I saw some go for 315k

    • @awesomeness369
      @awesomeness369 Год назад

      Keep going 🤣🤣🤣

    • @vincefairleigh6899
      @vincefairleigh6899 Год назад

      I wouldn’t pay $60,000. For the hummer, I just think the designers lost their way, is it really utilitarian?

  • @gilly3531
    @gilly3531 Год назад +13

    You made this Rivian owner very proud. 😁

    • @oinn8003
      @oinn8003 Год назад

      Yeah you can’t afford a real truck and buy a Mickey Mouse truck….

  • @rcguymike
    @rcguymike Год назад +26

    I definitely forgot about speed limiters until the Rivian started pulling ahead, I was thinking between the aerodynamics it might be able to pull ahead further down the line, but not with that change in acceleration. I've never been a huge fan of drag races but it would be very interesting to swap to slightly better speed rated tires and remove the limiters 👍. Maybe if you could schedule a track day the dealerships would sponsor or support that effort😁

    • @jayrichards3672
      @jayrichards3672 Год назад +2

      Speed limiters = wtf light🙁🥱

    • @philb5593
      @philb5593 Год назад +1

      Shame that for a vehicle that goes 0-60 that fast you’re limited to 106.
      What kind of vehicle reaches its speed limiter in the 1/4 mile.

    • @MrJcjet
      @MrJcjet Год назад

      Not sure such a tire exists. The weight is so extreme on the hummer that I doubt you can find a tire that has the weight rating and a higher speed rating. It's a terrible offroad vehicle due to the weight. But it's a pretty interesting show truck.

    • @CarGuy5141
      @CarGuy5141 Год назад +1

      The tires on the Hummer are rated at around 119, but most gm trucks are limited at 106

    • @donniecahill5243
      @donniecahill5243 Год назад

      Fun fact here, the engineers at GM discovered on first testing of the hummer ev that in watts to freedom mode, the hummer had so much power it would pull the front wheels off the ground. Respectively they had to slightly de-tune the "wtf" mode so buyers won't be doing wheelies on the street. They did mention it could possibly be tuned back up eventually if the owner desired. This just goes to show the hummer in all fairness is without a doubt the fastest vehicle here.

  • @gadgetmantwincities
    @gadgetmantwincities Год назад +3

    Imagine working and having fun at the same time! Great job guys😎

  • @ostromadventures
    @ostromadventures Год назад +31

    Very cool video! That lightening pro at $45k is hard to beat even though it wasn’t the fastest. Hummer would be cool if they had a lower priced model similar to the Ford.

    • @mechmat12345
      @mechmat12345 Год назад +7

      The Hummer will be a great vehicle.... in 10 years when you can buy a used one for 1/4 the price and replace the battery with a 1000kW/h solid state battery....

    • @bricebarefoot3437
      @bricebarefoot3437 Год назад +6

      Compared to the Ford Lightening Lariat at 81k...the Hummer is damn good deal.

    • @stevequantie8064
      @stevequantie8064 Год назад +1

      Agreed! The F-150 also appears to have far more space for people and bed size. I think it's the real full-size truck while the Rivian is unibody (think all the common SUVs you see today). Unibody rides nice but isn't built for actual work. Offroading the Rivian would probably break it. If you hit a boulder, high-centered it, or something bad that happens when offroad, the Ford is going to come out okay.

    • @chevydmax1000
      @chevydmax1000 Год назад +3

      GMC is bringing out lower cost Hummers over the next year or two. They started with the most expensive model first.

    • @godzilla7148
      @godzilla7148 Год назад +1

      @@stevequantie8064 That's actually not true at all. The Rivian is very off-road capable. There's another channel that shows this.

  • @coytus94
    @coytus94 Год назад +9

    I honestly did not expect that chungus ass Hummer to be as fast as it was. It even made the Rivian have to actually put in effort lol

    • @stevequantie8064
      @stevequantie8064 Год назад

      It's a race between a 3 series and 6 series. Completely different size! I prefer the Ford since it's the only real truck here with a ladder frame so you can do manly offroading things to it.

  • @SurelyYewJest
    @SurelyYewJest Год назад +32

    Seeing that rear view of the Hummer taking off for the 0-60 run is jaw-dropping. Imagine your average diesel dually pickup launching, clearing 60 MPH, and winning a drag race with some recent Ferraris like that.

    • @poopywelder
      @poopywelder Год назад +2

      They do go watch some quarters with diesels

  • @dalejones4322
    @dalejones4322 Год назад +10

    Spectacular video. I love the drag races and this one was full of surprises. Thanks guys and thanks Rivian Dad

  • @Justaeuropeanman
    @Justaeuropeanman Год назад +14

    9,000 pounds moving that fast is insane

    • @MrChevrolet94
      @MrChevrolet94 Год назад +3

      More like deadly and dangerous and ready to kill

    • @spacebound1969
      @spacebound1969 Год назад

      @@MrChevrolet94 As opposed to your corvette which can do 150? GTFO

  • @sking2173
    @sking2173 Год назад +4

    If I wanted a drag-truck, I’d appreciate this.
    But I want a truck to tow and haul, often for 500+ miles on a tank.
    I’ll stick with diesel until batteries are proven …

  • @bangbang-ko2gi
    @bangbang-ko2gi Год назад +4

    Imagine how fast GM can make an EV Vette if they did 3 seconds 0-60 with a 9k beasst🤣🤣

  • @kirkshrum6222
    @kirkshrum6222 Год назад +1

    Great video guys, nothing like some good old fun! Cheers Kirk

  • @sergebasque8460
    @sergebasque8460 Год назад +4

    Great test again that Rivian is fast with one extra electric motor. 0-60 is awesome.😎🇨🇦💪👍

  • @DrKinesin
    @DrKinesin Год назад +6

    The amount of power needed to throw that much steel is incredible.

  • @23dwalk
    @23dwalk Год назад +22

    That hummer is insane

  • @xziang
    @xziang Год назад +1

    Awesome video guys. Loved it, cool and good to see Andre having some serious fun

  • @jasonlepage2696
    @jasonlepage2696 Год назад +7

    Tommy just casually eating a cookie while drag racing.

    • @sking2173
      @sking2173 Год назад +1

      Spilling crumbs all over some guys expensive truck …

    • @reggiebuffat
      @reggiebuffat Год назад

      Hum, what's up Doc?

  • @Teslasfinest
    @Teslasfinest Год назад +4

    Also don't say the F150 is only $45k, you won't find one for double that, try 3x

  • @evilcam
    @evilcam Год назад +14

    It was good to see Case (or is it Kase?) in the drag videos, as he is an excellent presenter and bring nothing but positives to the interactions.

  • @trcass1
    @trcass1 Год назад +1

    great segment guys. love to watch these head to head competition reviews. Still probably wont ever get one but its all good information.

  • @caddyzig
    @caddyzig Год назад +12

    Seeing them all side-by-side at the end, he Hummer EV is by far the coolest truck. The Rivian is nice, but the hummer is just awesome.

    • @green29373
      @green29373 Год назад +1

      The hummer looks really nice, but I like the rivian just as much becuase of its simplicity

    • @juliobello4561
      @juliobello4561 Год назад

      Same but so far I want the Silverado or the sierra EV as my next daily lol

  • @oscarzheng9902
    @oscarzheng9902 Год назад +10

    dang that hummer is insane! 9000 pounds and does 0-60 in sports car territory

    • @MrChevrolet94
      @MrChevrolet94 Год назад

      It’s ready to kill people in it’s path

    • @hzuiel
      @hzuiel Год назад

      In supersports car territory.

  • @hhohajz
    @hhohajz Год назад +3

    Both hands on the wheel Tommy especially when you're driving someone else's truck at 100+ mph

  • @larrysmith6797
    @larrysmith6797 Год назад +2

    "It went all the way to Deadhorse, Alaska on electricity!" I didn't realize the ship that carried the Lightning all along the coast of Canada was electric.

  • @RivianDad
    @RivianDad Год назад +1

    Glad I woke up from my frunk-nap BEFORE the drag race! :)

  • @ibdam1
    @ibdam1 Год назад +13

    It’s good to see the Tesla Truck finally competing, oh wait, my bad. Maybe in 2032.

    • @sking2173
      @sking2173 Год назад +1

      And by 2050, Elon will have his 2020 robotaxis ready to hit the streets…

  • @cpear760
    @cpear760 Год назад +3

    Between the two Lightnings. I'd rather have the Pro dash as the bigger screen looks tacked on.

  • @joshc606
    @joshc606 Год назад

    That was pretty funny,”Where am I?” Lol

  • @jerrylee7801
    @jerrylee7801 Год назад +2

    That Ford f150 lighting look sharp

  • @kenyongillespie8652
    @kenyongillespie8652 Год назад +5

    For the price,I’ll just take the Lightening Pro. Great video!

  • @mechmat12345
    @mechmat12345 Год назад +11

    My general feeling since the the Lightning was released has been that anyone thinking about ANY EV as a daily driver/commuter should consider the Lightning Pro. The utility of a truck without the penalties at the gas pump just makes so much sense. As long as you don't mind driving a full sized truck (from a size perspective), it's awesome for the price.

    • @jamesm568
      @jamesm568 Год назад +2

      If you drove it back and forth to work and charged it every night while it's under warranty.

    • @sking2173
      @sking2173 Год назад +2

      @@jamesm568 - Why would someone want to use a full-sized pickup as a commuter car ??

    • @jamesm568
      @jamesm568 Год назад +4

      @@sking2173 Most people that have trucks don't even use a truck like a truck anyway.

    • @dundonrl
      @dundonrl Год назад +3

      Penalties at the gas station? Are you REALLY going there when you're talking about an EV!

    • @sking2173
      @sking2173 Год назад

      @@jamesm568 - So you’re saying a lot it guys have small penises ??

  • @gofishingwhenyoucan
    @gofishingwhenyoucan Год назад +1

    Awesome video by my friends at TFL

  • @Murman1973..
    @Murman1973.. Год назад +1

    Thanks for the race. Great to see the new hummer

  • @matthewbannister7864
    @matthewbannister7864 Год назад +6

    Love that Rivian! Wish I could afford one😂

    • @hellfire66683
      @hellfire66683 Год назад +1

      They will have more affordable ones later

  • @stevevice9863
    @stevevice9863 Год назад +3

    I grew up in the 70's and we all drove muscle cars. My first car was a '71 Barracuda, that I bought used in 1977. We thought we were fast......There was NOTHING you could buy off the showroom floor that came anywhere close to the acceleration of these trucks. A Hemi Cuda would run about 14 seconds flat in a quarter mile. About 6 seconds flat 0-60, and it was pretty much king of the street. To get a car to run in the 11's back then took a whole lot of modifications, tuning, time and money. Really unbelievable that a Hummer would give a Ferrari a run for the money.

    • @carlosoliveira-rc2xt
      @carlosoliveira-rc2xt Год назад

      With skinny garbage tires and mild gear ratios, that's what you get. It's actually much faster and not with expensive mods. It wasn't king of the street as the 440 was quicker. The Hemi was never meant to be a street engine and was detuned for that purpose so that it could be used in proper race form legally.

    • @stevevice9863
      @stevevice9863 Год назад

      @@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Nothing was running in the 11's right off the showroom floor back then. Even a 440 six pack was running the 1/4 mile in around 14 seconds.

    • @carlosoliveira-rc2xt
      @carlosoliveira-rc2xt Год назад

      @@stevevice9863 As I explained, put skinny polyglass tires on any of these trucks and they won't either. You claimed expensive mods to get the Hemi in the 11s and it just isn't so. Hell, you can get a '73 SD Trans Am into really low 12s just with slicks and cat removal at the track. Seems you're avoiding the points you made with which i have taken issue and deflecting. I don't think you know much about muscle cars from the late 60s and early 70s and judging from the times you listed, they appear to be original Motor Trend times, who were known to be the slowest drivers around. Reread what I wrote, point by point and prove me wrong.

  • @jakeberg6758
    @jakeberg6758 Год назад

    This channel, is ridiculously awesome!!!!! Thank you

  • @willayling2379
    @willayling2379 Год назад +1

    "Oh Look!... Guys Look!... I got it up" - Andre 2022
    was the highlight of this video
    11:06

  • @PersonaN007Grata
    @PersonaN007Grata Год назад +5

    I’m going into the tire business. With the weight of EV’s, tire stock is going nowhere but up.

  • @scott6052
    @scott6052 Год назад +4

    Nice to see the video. It might eventually come to it but I do not want to wait hours or days to recharge and be dragging a dropcord and adapters everywhere I go. I like my gas engines.

    • @TheRunn70
      @TheRunn70 Год назад

      I am already there. But I do understand....they aint cheap and the range comes with a price currently. But I do know the battery tech is ever evolving. So...maybe another unknown will come along with lower prices or the current makers will throw out a lifeline.

    • @TheRangerman00
      @TheRangerman00 Год назад

      Just remember you can tow further with your gas engine also

    • @heathwirt8919
      @heathwirt8919 Год назад

      I like gasoline engines too, but compared to these EV's they are slow as hell.

  • @DanG-xl5op
    @DanG-xl5op Год назад

    Been wanting to see this breakdown from SOMEONE w/as little bias as possible. Thanks to this channel for making it happen. I've been excited about Rivian for sometime but thanks to this video, I'm gonna keep an eye on that Ford Lightning because it's half as awesome for half the price. Which is still unaffordable for a basic worker like me but a girl can at least dream at that price tag...🤤

  • @gravedig1990
    @gravedig1990 Год назад +1

    How is the road and wind noise in the hummer with the removable roof?

  • @LeeMooEez
    @LeeMooEez Год назад +8

    Can’t wait for tesla cybertruck to enter the game 😂

  • @jamespenner1412
    @jamespenner1412 Год назад +13

    I will be impressed when they can drive 1000 miles to a charge and charge in 15 minutes.

    • @2kool4ukewlguy77
      @2kool4ukewlguy77 Год назад +2

      Once that happens you’ll probably complain that it should be solar powered with unlimited range.

    • @jamespenner1412
      @jamespenner1412 Год назад

      @@2kool4ukewlguy77 lol now your thinking!! haha

    • @allenmoody7527
      @allenmoody7527 Год назад

      I would be impressed if a gas car could go that far

    • @jamespenner1412
      @jamespenner1412 Год назад

      @@allenmoody7527 eco diesel ram can go 1000 miles on a tank.

    • @allenmoody7527
      @allenmoody7527 Год назад

      @@jamespenner1412 Very impressive

  • @swathdiver489
    @swathdiver489 Год назад +1

    Pretty cool and not a one could drive from Denver to New Orleans in 24 hours like my GMCs!

  • @bostondan77
    @bostondan77 Год назад +2

    I loved the frunk race 😂😂

  • @themajesticmanic2751
    @themajesticmanic2751 Год назад +6

    I'd sure like to see what the Hummer could do on a prepped track and like a 10.5 Radial with the software's top speed adjusted...

  • @johnmoore8599
    @johnmoore8599 Год назад +3

    You guys are having WAY, WAY too much fun! The Lightning Pro seems the best bet. The only good thing to say about the Hummer is that it might be reliable now.

    • @bricebarefoot3437
      @bricebarefoot3437 Год назад +2

      In terms of drive train, the H2 Hummer was far more reliable than any product Ford was putting out at the time...and it's not even close. Interior-wise...it was cheap typical plastic...and fell all to pieces.

  • @urexpressionsphotography1082
    @urexpressionsphotography1082 Год назад +1

    Great video. Would like to more testing between the 4 trucks. Especially towing and load capacity in the bed.

  • @craig8638
    @craig8638 Год назад +2

    Bigger bed in the F150 for the win in my opinion. I have a 6’8” surfboard in the bed as I type. In the bed with the tailgate up before Rivian fans jump on me. I just ordered a tonneau cover because there are tons of accessories ready to go for the Lightning. My boards and other equipment will be secure in the bed with a tailgate up when I am in less savory environments.
    I also did not Think it would matter that much that the F150 looks like other F1 50s but it does. I am not adverse to vehicles that look different I’ve had a few on my EV journey.
    I don’t get me wrong I think the Rivian‘s are great vehicles and I see a ton of them where I live in Sonoma county. Ppl

    • @hellfire66683
      @hellfire66683 Год назад

      I agree the Rivian could have a longer bed

  • @smarticus6384
    @smarticus6384 Год назад +12

    When you also factor in just how well the Rivian drives on the road, carving canyons like a sports car, it makes the Rivian even more special.

  • @tymosher17
    @tymosher17 Год назад +3

    I wonder how fast the hummer could actually do the quarter with out the speed limiter 🤔

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss Год назад

      If you disable it the car might shut off and not turn back on or something like that haha

    • @MrJcjet
      @MrJcjet Год назад

      It would be right around 11.8 seconds.

  • @marcusturner5291
    @marcusturner5291 Год назад

    Nice review keep up the good work TFL

  • @ultradaves
    @ultradaves Год назад +1

    The R1T may be faster (marginally) but I certainly would choose a GM or Ford every time. The R1T is a midsize truck, with a tiny bed, it's really more of a impress your friends vehicle, rather than a real full size truck, which it is not. Also, what happens when your Rivian has a recall, or needs a repair, or gets into an accident? We all saw the TFL experience with Tesla, which was a nightmare, and I suspect Rivian is way worse. But in general, BEV trucks make little sense for the ways people use trucks. You can't tow with them, you can't do long road trips, and they are ghastly expensive. One thing to note, Cummins is on track to bring hydrogen combustion engines to the market in the next couple of years. They have committed to the 6.7 l and the 15 liter. Everything is the same as their diesel counterparts except they run off hydrogen. This drop in replacement technology delivers a truck that doesn't weigh much more than the diesel equivalent, has huge range similar to a diesel, can tow like a diesel, and eliminates all the carbon emissions, and 75% reduction in NOX over todays standards. The largest truck stop networks are already planning their hydrogen networks. I see hydrogen combustion engines as being a nice transition platform with great TCO for fleets, and for truck owners who want a real truck solution. Sure, it's not available today, but 12 - 24 months is not that long, especially when you consider how long people are willing to wait for a Rivian or a Lightning or a Chevy Silverado EV. Also, I like being able to fill up in a few minutes, versus the incredible long charge times to fill up a Rivian or Lightning. Remember, I am saying fill up, not just charge enough for 50 miles, 100 miles.

    • @TheRunn70
      @TheRunn70 Год назад

      Understood. But things are changing in the background if you take a peek. The battery technology and the chargers are really improving. You dont have to take my word for it. The information is out there.

  • @Dularr
    @Dularr Год назад +6

    Looking forward to seeing what Ford does with off road performance electric Ranger.

  • @andysupple4838
    @andysupple4838 Год назад +29

    Andre when you say you're at High Altitude you mean the truck is quicker?

    • @hybrid.roodragon1226
      @hybrid.roodragon1226 Год назад +1

      The electric one has less wind resistance at altitude. Gas trucks lose hp when at altitude

    • @john-martin
      @john-martin Год назад

      Yes because the air is thinner at high altitude than at sea level. Less drag

    • @ThunderCat19D
      @ThunderCat19D Год назад +13

      Higher altitude with internal combustion engines are slower due to less air density

    • @paulplack490
      @paulplack490 Год назад +1

      Higher altitude actually helps electrics, because there's less aerodynamic drag and no less power.

    • @andysupple4838
      @andysupple4838 Год назад

      @@ThunderCat19D Then an electric truck should be faster with the air being less dense

  • @LoneWolf-cf5tp
    @LoneWolf-cf5tp Год назад +1

    Very entertaining. Great video.

  • @freshpack8928
    @freshpack8928 9 месяцев назад

    21k miles on my lightning and I love it. I will never go back. That would have been 1,312 gallons of diesel fuel @ a conservative $4.50 per gallon for a dollar total of $5,906. My home I switched providers and got .13 cents per kilowatt hour so I am under $2000 in electric costs. My truck is saving me half of my payment on diesel fuel.

  • @patriley9449
    @patriley9449 Год назад +3

    These trucks are amazing performers if acceleration is one of the primary concerns. Not so much if you actually need to tow heavy trailers on varied terrain over long distances. I will keep my slow 2006 F 250 with the gas-hog V10. It is paid for.

  • @torymblue2000
    @torymblue2000 Год назад +3

    the fact that Ford played games and didn't really make the PRO available to everyone, and instead built a small number, and made everyone buy XLT/Lariat. I think the biggest scam is not allowing the PRO ER to everyone.. I'd consider selling my Lariat for a Pro ER, PRO is the perfect truck, it really is!

    • @godzilla7148
      @godzilla7148 Год назад

      If you never haul anything it might be. With modest loads 90 miles on a full charge is pushing it!

    • @torymblue2000
      @torymblue2000 Год назад

      @@godzilla7148 that's actually incorrect on an extended range. Sure you can find a video that backs up your story, but we can find others that prove it's wrong. But yes the truck is still designed like a brick and if you are cruising over 70mph or have a load, it's going to eat through your battery. But at full load consider it a 50% reduction in range and an ER will do over your 90 miles. Don't forget about the regen as well.

    • @godzilla7148
      @godzilla7148 Год назад

      @@torymblue2000 I've yet to see one tested at a full load. And when tested at less than a full load they're doing way less than 50%. An EV truck is useless to me as I use a truck as it's intended to be used. Hauling and pulling. The battery technology isn't quite there yet. Some of the small EV cars used for city and short trips are fine. But for hauling and pulling and longer trips. It's a hard no for me!

  • @4literv6
    @4literv6 Год назад +1

    Rivian needs a cheetah or wtf mode imo. I wonder of it could do mid 11s if it had that kind of mode for drag racing? 🤔

  • @samuelbruce8927
    @samuelbruce8927 Год назад +2

    This race was electrifying! it shocked me to be honest!

  • @CrumResearch
    @CrumResearch Год назад +5

    Is the AC outlet in the Hummer EV really limited to 400W output?

    • @specialopsdave
      @specialopsdave Год назад

      Inverters are expensive, so they probably pulled a Chevy part for it

    • @mannyman4103
      @mannyman4103 Год назад

      Yes. Just like any other Chevy……..

  • @evaristocorripio5434
    @evaristocorripio5434 Год назад +22

    I miss the trx

    • @capt_ramius
      @capt_ramius Год назад +2

      You can find it in the Lightning’s dust.

    • @evilcam
      @evilcam Год назад +1

      Yeah, I just think it is more entertaining and interesting than these EVs.

    • @evaristocorripio5434
      @evaristocorripio5434 Год назад

      @@capt_ramius actually at sea level they are very close. These guys are more than a mile above sea level

  • @HeCute_
    @HeCute_ Год назад

    You guys should also have a drone recording over the finish cones in case the races are neck and neck

  • @FarrokhZarnegar
    @FarrokhZarnegar Год назад +1

    Great race!

  • @FortniteDad12
    @FortniteDad12 Год назад +6

    I love how going fast in a straight line is the only test anyone seems to care about lol

    • @maszkalman3676
      @maszkalman3676 Год назад

      exactyl movin on rough terrain or stop or turning is not an option for them...

    • @johnlopez4086
      @johnlopez4086 Год назад +1

      What competitive comparison would YOU like to see?

    • @FortniteDad12
      @FortniteDad12 Год назад

      @@johnlopez4086 I would like to see how it is actually living with these things all month since they want us too trip work shopping charging everything

    • @heathwirt8919
      @heathwirt8919 Год назад +1

      That was the point of this test and it's not the only thing we care about.

    • @jeffreyrichards922
      @jeffreyrichards922 Год назад +1

      @hanging with Mike, had my Lightning for about a month now. Sad to say a video living with one of these trucks on the daily would be extremely boring. I know you’re wanting pull on the “how hard an EV is to live with thread”. But reality is as a daily use vehicle they’re great, (the hummer might pose parking issues lol). I drive between 50 and 80 miles daily, charge at home. No drama…

  • @Ishliss2012
    @Ishliss2012 Год назад +5

    Wow that hummer is impressive. I thought it would be slower than all three due to the size.

  • @AdventureRocks
    @AdventureRocks Год назад

    What a fun race!

  • @eduardogutierrez665
    @eduardogutierrez665 Год назад +1

    Best video I see on long time thanks guys 😂😂🎉

  • @williammach9127
    @williammach9127 Год назад +11

    Any estimate on replacement battery cost and availability after the abusive driving in high performance vehicles?

    • @zanelucas512
      @zanelucas512 Год назад +1

      Ya, under towing conditions as well.

    • @diesel6916
      @diesel6916 Год назад

      come back in 15 years and ask the question

    • @fireant1272
      @fireant1272 Год назад

      100k per battery and 50k to dispose of the toxic waste.

    • @saltyfloridaman7163
      @saltyfloridaman7163 Год назад

      Over $20k per battery on the Hummer EV

  • @benmorris3938
    @benmorris3938 Год назад +5

    Please do a max tow range test, I have heard stories of guys only going 50 miles with their boat attached. I'd love to see you guys do this test since they are trucks

    • @derekk6906
      @derekk6906 Год назад

      Not sure they are able to show negative EV truck reviews. If they are being supplied trucks to review for their channel, to many videos demonstrating poor performance may make it harder to get Trucks to review. Just an opinion

    • @phild9813
      @phild9813 Год назад

      50 is probably about right.

    • @cnetate
      @cnetate Год назад

      Did you see the video they did with the chevy trail boss and the lightning?

    • @IcalebthelionI
      @IcalebthelionI Год назад +1

      From what I’ve seen the R1T gets about 45% range (~135mi) when towing 7000lbs. Not great but definitely better than 50

    • @wrecktifier1
      @wrecktifier1 Год назад +1

      They already have.

  • @ebnhahn1993
    @ebnhahn1993 Год назад

    Great Video fellows👍👍✌✌

  • @the_jarmel
    @the_jarmel Год назад

    😂❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😂 Kasey and his vanna white impression.. showing off the electrics on the back of the truck lmao .. haha only Kasey ... Sick outfit btw 👏👏👏 HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYONE...GREAT PRODUCTION TEAM TFL 👏👏❤️❤️🙏✌️

  • @victor9
    @victor9 Год назад +5

    Hummer is just a giant toy, nothing but insanity on wheels. it's the ultimate "bro, what if we" type of car.

    • @punksjutgbd
      @punksjutgbd Год назад +1

      Glad they made it.

    • @degjoe77
      @degjoe77 Год назад

      Very capable off roader from other reviews. But most buyers that can afford it will never go off roading

  • @claymenotti
    @claymenotti Год назад +22

    The Hummer EV is so dumb. "Let's make it a truck but then fill up the bed with a spare tire rack".....

    • @frederickdouglass7517
      @frederickdouglass7517 Год назад +1

      I bet the bed on the Rivian is just as tiny. Only the F150 has a decent sized bed.

    • @LanguagesWithAndrew
      @LanguagesWithAndrew Год назад

      Hummers have always been dumb and pointless apart from the original H1 and *that* only made sense off-road.

    • @IIXxSLAYERxXII
      @IIXxSLAYERxXII Год назад +1

      It's an option WTF. If you don't need it or want it, just don't take it.

    • @99unclebob
      @99unclebob Год назад +1

      the Hummer is governed to 106mph tire size makes no difference,

    • @claymenotti
      @claymenotti Год назад

      @@IIXxSLAYERxXII you're gonna wish you had that spare tire with you when you have a blowout.

  • @davidcogar1168
    @davidcogar1168 Год назад

    These are all great trucks. Keep in mind Motor week managed a 12.3 quarter out of a TRX so elevation is a factor. Like the speed of these trucks but not crazy about waiting 45 minutes for a charge on the road when I can fill the Ram up in 5 minutes and be on my way.

    • @GeorgeOrwell-tp8dw
      @GeorgeOrwell-tp8dw Год назад

      Been charging my car for over a year, and over 25K miles. It's a Tesla, not a Rivian or a Ford, but ain't nobody spending 45 minutes at a charge station unless you're on Fox News. All of those people do per the stories.

  • @StarGateSG7
    @StarGateSG7 Год назад

    My Oh My! Do we have some NEWS FOR YOU! Evidently, FORD has actually listened and is now putting the finishing touches on Jackery-style range extender power packs that will fit in the FRUNK AND IN THE TRUCK BED ITSELF !!! An enterprising engineering student in Northern Michigan saw two of them up-close in the frunk and two in the bed of a Ford F150 Lightning multiple times that were being tested near and about Huron Beach, Michigan during the week starting September 12, 2022.
    The power packs were seen with four wheels, and what looks to be extending handles and had multiple power outlets including 240V and 120V. It was not possible to see if they had 12V or USB ports. What WAS SEEN THOUGH was a large piece of paper stuck to BOTH POWER PACKS that indicated large printed numbers where one power pack said 25 KW and the other in-frunk power pack said 12 KW. They were seen to be BATTERY-based and NOT liquid-fuel-based!
    From a generalized MATH point of view, one 25 KW power pack would allow an estimated 30 miles of range extension and the other 12 KW one about 13-to-15 miles of range extension. (Note: one must ASSUME the 25 KW and 12 KW labelling indicates that electrical power output would be for ONE HOUR, they are likely 25 KWh and 12 KWh battery packs! -- the label KW i.e. without the small "h" moniker means that the KW label indicates a continous generator output power rating until a fuel source runs out so I am assuming for VEHICLE USE they are rated for one hour of output).
    Another two power packs were seen installed into the back when a large heavy duty moving-blanket-like covering was pulled back from the bed. It looked like the power packs were installed via some sort of heavy duty looking clamping mechanism that looked nicely painted and quite well-finished and not-at-all rough nor just slapped together in form.
    That ALSO MEANS that Ford VERY LIKELY would let customers choose HOW MANY power packs they could buy and that buying four of them (i.e. two in the bed and two in the Frunk) would give you 120 extra miles of EV range which is pretty good AND you get EXTRA PORTABLE 25 KW or 12 KW generators! Since these are power packs, you could remove them at will and just keep extending your range as you see fit. Just drive to the nearest Ford Dealer or authorzied retailer and swap out the power packs for a few bucks for fully charged ones and be on your way! I am assuming they will charge the truck's main battery while driving!
    WHEN they will be publicly disclosed and sold is now the OPERATING QUESTION!
    At least we now KNOW that Ford is working on an EV range extending solution for current F150 Lightning owners and for OTHER vehicles such as the likely-in-development EV Maverick, EV Bronco and EV Ranger!
    YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!
    V

  • @newscoulomb3705
    @newscoulomb3705 Год назад +3

    So what we've learned is that Ford made the slowest, best EV truck. 🙂

  • @zacariaspiedrasdelrio8984
    @zacariaspiedrasdelrio8984 Год назад +8

    Tommy; Driving at that speed using only one hand is not safe. What if you blown a tire? Be safe buddy!

    • @mvcharisma2968
      @mvcharisma2968 Год назад

      I’ve always wondered, since many of these new vehicles have ‘semi-autonomous’ driving, how the computers react if a tire blows at highway speeds?

    • @larrysmith6797
      @larrysmith6797 Год назад

      Tommy, like all Micas, is not too bright.

  • @collinsimmons7156
    @collinsimmons7156 Год назад +2

    Can't wait till we see the Ford lighting and the hummer off road to see which is more capable.

  • @Ltdoptions
    @Ltdoptions Год назад

    Keep up the great videos fellas

  • @algil820
    @algil820 Год назад +10

    I’d take the hummer then the rivian …all are good choices ..and once the Chevy pickup comes out that may slide into 2nd bumping the rivian to 3rd

    • @brentvance3958
      @brentvance3958 Год назад

      Definitely a Chevy fan boy there

    • @brycegman8150
      @brycegman8150 Год назад

      brand loyalty, might as well self flagellate while you're at it.

  • @2AMOSHPIT
    @2AMOSHPIT Год назад +4

    Ok fixed

  • @saltyfloridaman7163
    @saltyfloridaman7163 Год назад +1

    Keep in mind this is very high elevation. In Florida the Ram TRX would get very high 11s

  • @MarkEasley
    @MarkEasley Год назад

    Whats crazy is how violent they make those launches look but my awd subi also did a 3.6 0-60