I've owned both, let's compare: 2022 Toyota Tundra vs 2021 Ford F-150
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- In this video, I talk through the main differences between the 2022 Toyota Tundra vs 2021 Ford F-150. If you are cross shopping these trucks, this is what you need to know.
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Here is the video showing off the new Tundra including what I paid for it and more on the truck: ruclips.net/video/we2tEBrR1kk/видео.html
Towing fuel economy is a area I hope your planning on testing to compare the 2022 Tundra gas and hybrid versions vs the 2021 Ford Hybrid F150 towing the same weight and testing conditions.
Toyota needs a 30amp 3000w 110v/220v inverter for the Tundra hybrid model.
@@icare7151 For sure. I'm going to do the same loop, with the same trailer and hopefully around the same temp I did last year. I just need the weather to cooperate. Blowing 60 mph here today and then a blizzard tomorrow. Makes towing tough. LOL
@@Pickuptrucktalk
True but that’s great testing weather though.
@@smrtguy77777 Yeah, no. LOL.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Awesome!
Living in Colorado Springs, CO on Cheyenne Mountain 🏔 @ 6800 ft, the Winter winds are brutal this season. We clocked winds over 100 mph over the last 4 weeks. Only a total of 4” of snow here on Cheyenne Mountain, a record low of snow this season with record high winds = extreme fire danger. We pray we don’t have a Boulder Colorado style fire event.
Hopefully you can do a towing test with the Tundra Hybrid in the future as well. The towing mpg will be interesting.
Many report towing with the F150 hybrid is virtually the same highway mpg as the non hybrid version with the same motor.
Apparently the in town F150 hybrid towing does have only slightly better fuel economy than the non hybrid F150 with the same motor, towing the same weight, conditions, elevation etc.
We praise Toyota for not offering the standard “two tone” under carriage oxidation called rust found on Ford and GM products even when new. Not acceptable Ford and GM.
The tow hooks thing is huge. Up in Canada the are used regularly in the winter or work great in a pinch for pulling on equipment etc when it's stuck. Huge oversight by Toyota.
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Agreed
Here in Seattle, I haven't been in a truck in 30 years. LOL! But still I'm watching this. 🤣
Just use the saved funds from not having the truck in the shop like an f150 and put an aftermarket wench on the front. Problem solved.
@@Scuzeme1 There are very few wenches that would agree to be hung on the front of the truck. You'd surely get feminists completely up in arms. That's why putting a winch there would better - they never talk back and they are far less expensive in the long run.
The first time I needed tow hooks was when I drove next to a septic sand mound… had KO2 tires on and sank like a stone, pulled out by my hooks by a super duty with hooks. Priceless.
Wow… Impressive
As if there’s no other way to get out of a situation
If you can’t figure something else out or find another place to hook onto you shouldn’t own a truck and I’m not defending Toyota
I don’t understand why they didn’t put them on there either but quit bitching about it already
I use my F-150 day and night. I use the tailgate step daily (my old man knees and back appreciates the step). I love the perimeter lighting at night…it keeps me from stepping into puddles (my wife likes them, too). I use the tow hooks 6-8 times a year…usually to help others. I recently used my front tow hooks to pull out some shrubs. The Toyota is a very reliable grocery getter or for the occasional trip to a home improvement store.
Hell yea. That’s exactly what my 2021 ranger is used for
Grocery getter? Go back to bed old timer.
What an insulting compliment 🤣
I have to agree with you Ron. Checked out the new Tundra and was disappointed in its bed trim and other points. It wouldn't survive my use of a truck.
As much as I have been wanting to get the new tundra as I loved since the beginning they released the photos I decided to go with a V8 XLT F150. After looking at different trucks I just fell in love with the F150. Tundra was at the top of my list than fell to #3. f150 being 1 and Ram 2. Great videos keep it up!
i work at the ford shop for 18 year the ford have many problem with trans and coolant leak and timing change that mean suck
You’ll regret it in the long run. 👍🏼
@@rayrdelle Rams reliability SUX..
@@sourasinphonemany7783 ? You lose all credibility, with a poorly written message. What are you talking about? Fords 10 speed? It has been solid, except for a select few trucks. Those, were mostly produced in the new generation, and during Covid.
You won't regret that. The coyote motor in the Ford is the way to go. Fantastic truck. They out sell every one else by like 1000 percent. LoL. Dodge is garbage. Toyota is fantastic but I'd still by a Ford
You nailed it Tim. Bottom line is, this Tundra is a huge disappointment. It reminds me of how the Tahoe and Yukon became luxury grocery getters that are more expensive and less usable.
After more thought I have to agree. I was going to buy the new Tundra but not looking likely now. It’s a bad look when a prominent reviewer thinks the truck is ugly. Even more so when apparently there are Toyota engineers unhappy with the tow hook situation. How are consumers supposed to have confidence in a product when the maker does not. I guess I’ll stick with GM.
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Man, I agree 1,000,000% on what you said. Why would you buy stuff and talk s#!t about it. I owned a 07 tundra and a prius and never let me down. Just change tires and oil and it will run forever!
@@Nk-bc1qb Thanks. I'll keep your words in mind while I shop around.
@@Nk-bc1qb I agree 100% and I bet the 5.7L I-Force V8 in the Tundra will outlast any EcoBoost engine out there and the Tundra is made in Texas not in Japan so there for its American as well. But however since you American harshly is it just me or do you sound anti-American. Also I have a 1996 Ford F150 with a 5.0L (302) Windsor V8 with 210,000 miles and still going strong 💪. The only things I replaced on my truck was the starter, the rear fuel pump, and the power steering megunisum but other than that mostly was just simple maintenance, took out the transmission fluid just to get rid of the shuttering it was making and it hasn't had a problem ever since. I also have a Ford 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 144,000 miles and still going strong as well and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK.
@@Nk-bc1qb Toyota reliability isn't what it used to be and that was always a myth. Tacoma frames, highlander issues, new Tacoma issues, list goes on. People are brainwashed into paying more for Toyota like apple has done to it's sheep
I just got a F150 a few days ago-not even a week. It and the Tundra were only competitors in the sub $60k spec’’s with Adaptive Cruise etc. Now just try and find a Tundra. You can’t.
I have the 5.0 XLT and am still learning it’s features. Loving Sync 4-the power of its system, the flexibility it gives the owner.
Which sub 60k ford package includes adaptive cc?!
I started the video ready to disagree but in reality, it was an excellent comparison - fair and reasonable. One of the best so far on the 2022 Toyota Tundra.
Thanks. Glad I could cool your jets on fighting back. 😄
The no Tow hook deal is simply incomprehensible to me. WTF?
I completely agree. I would expect that from Honda but definitely not Toyota with its off road roots.
All trucks have their pros and cons. All trucks will eventually need work done to them. Just keep doing what your doing and showing us all the honest truth about them. And the tow hooks I 100% agree with. They are needed.
" All trucks will eventually need work done to them." While true... The caveat being.. Some less than others.
I will say with Toyota being all new. Reliability will have to stand on its own and earn its rating.. usually Toyota is more reliable. I don’t automatically give that to them. I will also say when known problems exist do they in time fix them? My opinion GM is horrible about doing that.
You want to talk about reliability show me a 1950's to the 1990's Toyota trucks still on the road today. Go to classic car shows I don't see any tundras there do you. I still have my 1974 GMC 1500 350V8 runs perfectly no issues. Funny I never seen a 1974 Tundra around oh wait they weren't around back then. American Trucks are the best.
@@daleradder7354 the Tundra came out in 2000 though?
@@WorldWar546 what does that tell you. Ford Gm and Dodge been making trucks for over 100 years. 1/2 ton 3/4 ton and 1 ton not to mention dually trucks. Toyota doesn't know how to make a truck so they copy. Don't waste your money on a Japanese p.o.s get yourself a real truck and stop playing with toys.
Tow/recovery hooks or D rings should be a must on trucks and SUV. This equipment is more useful for getting out of trouble when your truck slides of the road way on a major Snow storm into the ditch. You need recovery points that is strong to get you out and safe.
The frame cant handle it.
This is how confident toyota is. It will never need to be towed 😁
Guess they will hook a rope to the ugly grill when they get stuck
I ordered an F350 7.3l 4x4 long bed. I have been waiting 3 months now. Meanwhile I’ve been looking at these new Tundras. I get all the GOOD you are saying Tim - and please know - I am very much a Toyota guy - but I just can’t pay $60k for a truck that’s not a big old 3/4 ton work truck. The Tundra is now like a car. I don’t want a car. I have gone down the road of calling dealers and trying to get in their Tundra allocation wait list. One guy in particular in Seattle was awesome about really searching for me. He found me a beauty. An SR5 Crew Max Long Bed 4x4 and it was Army Green and the pics looked pretty darn nice. He was getting it around Jan 15. Asked if I wanted to deposit $1000 on it since it was not presold. I asked for the total price. They were asking $5k above sticker plus some ridiculous $2k Executive Package which he couldn’t explain. Something about if the truck gets stolen they give me $3k. WTF?? Anyway. These Toyota dealers are fleecing us. This Tundra ain’t a $60k truck. It’s a $45k truck. My F350 XLT will come in cheaper than what that dealer wanted for a Tundra. Laughable since the 350 can haul a trailer with two Tundras sitting on top. The only thing the Tundra has better is mpg finally. Haha. Remember we complained about older 5.7 V8 mpg. I think they fixed it. But this ain’t no work truck. I plan to USE my work truck. My 350 will have about 3000 payload? Like far more than I’ll need. But when hauling stuff more is better. I recently drive a long bed 250 Lariat 3500 miles not towing all highway. It was a 7.3 Godzilla. Got 14.9 mpg across all those miles. And there were times where I was holding 85 smoothly at 2,000 quiet rpms. I am going to quit looking for Tundras and stick to my Ford. I can’t stand the way the Toyota dealers are fleecing us. My Ford dealer told me “when it comes in we’ll see what the sticker says and we’ll talk. We won’t mark it up and you can get the X Plan pricing from your job” (we buy only Fords at work). Ford dealer didn’t even hit my credit card for the deposit. He even gave me a couple jars of real beehive honey for my 85 year old mother in law. He calls me regularly to say hi and apologized about supply chain delays. Toyota guys are all looking for short term windfalls. Ford guy (at least mine) wants my LONG TERM business. Not just this truck. I’m done with the games. Oh and haha. When your Tundra gets stuck call me. I have two BIG tow hooks I can tether you too after we figure out where. I’ll put it in 4x4 and tank you out like a red headed stepson.
That is a lot to read
but thank you 👌
I have not seen a long bed of anything for years 😳
Everything you mentioned makes complete logical sense. I'm a Toyota fan and a Ford fan and I'm perplexed that Toyota has left out key features on a truck. I'm a product manager at my company and I scrutinize meticulously the product before it's released for MP, and I make sure the POC is solid almost to MP status. The fact that the MP is not what the market expected I question the product manager and I would hold him accountable for missing the marks. With that said if anyone wants a solid product manager you can contact me but I'm not cheap but I will get you where you need to be in the market. 😏🤙💪👌
LOL!!!!!!! You're kidding, right?
Yes I was offer my services over RUclips and Craigslist too!
Every fault you mentioned with the new tundra solidified why I’m keep my 2019 Tundra TRD Pro for a very long time. Very good key points. This is why I like this channel. Very honest and not biased.
Sure do agree about wanting more features. More tailgate features is NEEDED in today's truck wars. The lack of tow hooks didn't bother me at first but now I can see the benefit. BRING BACK THE TOW HOOKS TOYOTA! I have my 21 TRD Off-Road Limited and am leaning towards holding onto it now.
It’s a 1 year old truck. Yea keep it.
Mines an '03 Runs great. I decided to hold on to it longer.
Definitely agree about tow hook issue. It doesn’t cost much to add. For most (not all), a truck is a work vehicle and you most likely have a time to use them, I.e., off reading, working on the farm…. Thanks for the reviews you have provided on the 2022 Tundra. I have owned a Tacoma, Tundra and Forerunner over the years and have been extremely reliable. Yes, I even have a Ford F-250 Super Duty Diesel 6.7 which I love. I just don’t like diesel fuel prices…
The impression that tundra is solid has been evading me, honestly. Of all the new and pre-owned pre-2022 Tundra I drove, all but one had wiggly brake pedal, always some play. All had wiggly shifter housing/box. When you shift the gated shifter, that while assembly moves. Then on top, the excessively hefty body roll just make you tired and feel like riding an elephant. It sure may be 2500-ish for a 1500 truck but cumbersome and fat and jiggly
I've felt this also, I would never buy a Tacoma, 4Runner because of the DATED underpinnings they keep using from the 80's.
Their ride/handling give me a headache.
Tundra is better yet far from perfect.
Odd, I haven't had this issue. I just got a brand new trd pro this month. Everything is rock solid. I've even got the center console safe and everything is bolted down.
The power on board is the one reason my dad bought a F-150 over the new Tundra. Having 9.4 kW at a rent house with no power or if his power goes out is a HUGE bonus. We live in Texas and when the winter storm hit he had just got his truck and the house set up to run off the truck in case of a power outage. We had 12 people stay over because nobody had power and we ran power off the truck into the house to run a heater and things like a toaster oven or coffee machine.
Could have bought a generator for cheaper and it's more versatile.
@@evictioncarpentry2628 He had a generator. They're a pain in the ass.
@@evictioncarpentry2628 a generator isn’t more versatile wtf
Why don’t you just buy a generator? A whole lot cheaper, saves wear and tear on your truck and a whole lot more versatile
You going leave your truck running for five or six days if your power is out? That’s a great idea genius
A space heater a coffee machine in your TV… Wow that’s impressive
I have a generator that will run my entire house for as long as I want And I can take it to anyone’s house to help them out and still have my truck available to do whatever I want
@@tv-ke4lx FYI the 7.2 KW PowerPoint on the Ford does not run the engine constantly. It works off the internal battery until the battery is depleted and then it starts up automatically to charge the battery backup and then shuts off again. That's how it works
Im torn...I really wanted the new tundra but I have used tow hooks here in kansas so many times its literally a deal breaker. Plus the chrome on the trd off road package i would get. I love the way the trd sports looks not sure why they went with chrome on the off road. Hopefully they change some things. I have the awd highlander and the camry. Was hoping to trade the f150 but think im going to wait it out.
Good job, Tim. I wholeheartedly agree. Another con for me and I don't think you mentioned it in this video but have in previous ones on the Tundra is the remote start and the key fob subscription. I am not sure if Toyota has changed that but that was a big negative for me.
Toyota says they are looking into making that change. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and that's why I left it off.
@@Pickuptrucktalk A big on you left off though Tim is payload capacity is not good on the 2022 Tundra. The maximum payload is 1,940 pounds and that can only be obtained on the SR trim which then limits your towing capacity to 8,300 pounds max.
Forgot all about the Ford pass app. That is for sure from the future. And I think everyone forgets about 911 assist as well. And that’s old
I am a huge Toyota fan, but pretty much all you said I agree with and Toyota better fix all these things next year. Some one that likes Toyota but is not a huge fan will likely not buy a Tundra over a F-150 over all the missing features.
I've got 180k miles on my 2013 f150 lariat. No major issues and it runs close to new still. No rust underneath either, but I don't live in an area where the roads are salted much.
As a long time tundra fan, for every reason you mentioned my 21 lunar rock pro will be my last tundra. Unless they fix everything you discussed. I’m so miffed by these decisions.
I agree as well my 2021 tundra will be my last not so much for this video, but the price increase in SR5 trim being 5K more outta my price range now on 2022 tundras. I thought long and hard of just keeping my 2017 tundra forever especially since put on new brakes/rotors and new battery in 4 years and newer used tires, but bit the bullet and coughed up full msrp of 43K to get the 2021 tundra SR5 trim. Never in my wildest days was I ever going to spend over 40K on any new vehicle but did this time. Now, 2022 tundra apples to apples near 50K NO fricking way that is insane high for any vehicle to me.
@@mikekoch4932 I am with you. My 2021 TRD Pro double cab was $48,880 and a 2022 TRD Off road is $65,000?! F that. If you do the math I would have to drive my 2021 297,000 miles to break even on the entry cost. People complain about mpg but it’s what did you pay for the truck in the first place that matters.
Great comments..
1. Hybrid vs non. Toyota is putting there battery under the back seat. Where to you put anything in the Toyota hybrid? Mini van has more battery power, wow that’s sad.
2. All you’re points are spot on, I love your channel. Keep up the good work.
3. You solve problems and build things in your truck. Ford is killing it with real life.
3. Exhaust noise. I don’t like talking over my truck noise. Im glad the does is quiet not making more noise. I want quiet and fast..
4. I’ll buy a ford, I’m sad that Toyota didn’t really step it up.
5. The bed step in really sucks, this is a huge miss, Toyota has always
been lame with features cutting. You also had a hybrid for the same price.
Bed features are huge! One factor in buying my 2020 Silverado, was due to the built in steps to get into and out of the bed of the truck.
I bought a 2020 trailboss. Within 6 months it was in the shop with bent rods and busted lifters. Took a month to rebuilt the engine. I traded it back in as soon as I got it back. Good luck with yours. I’ll never buy another GM product and I’m telling anyone that’ll listen not to buy one. Traded it for a 21 ranger and I couldn’t be happier to get rid of a junk truck for a good one
@@lesterparker1594 I had a ranger and that engine/transmission had so many problems. Failures at low miles. I'd definitely not buy a ford or chevy they are both horrible built vehicles.
@@fireant1272 I did tons of research. Not many common problems on the ranger. All companies put out bad vehicles, including Toyota. I’ve had mine almost a year and it’s been perfect along with most of them too hat have been bought the past 3 years. I’ll take this ranger over a GM product any day
@@lesterparker1594 I did alot of research also. But a vehicle that hasn't been out long the research is kinda pointless. I'd trade that thing in before the warranty expires. All newer fords have been unreliable pos. My dad had a f150 3.5 ecoboost the turbo alternator exhuast manifold and timing chain needed replaced under 48k miles.
@@fireant1272 I’ve always had good luck with fords. Both I had I drove for 10+ years and 200k miles. I’m pretty confident this one will make it too. Only time will tell.
Honestly, as crazy as it sounds, approach lighting is probably the one feature that moved me from my Tundra to an F150. Such a small, simple thing but I am thankful for it almost every single morning.
Yeah small little things that shouldn’t matter do.
Tow hooks are must have equipment for a truck. I have never used it since I own my big suv over 7 years. But last week I used it twice when we went to ski yard, could not understand why taking the hooks away from a work horse.
Yes, much like 4WD for a lot of folks, who cares if you only need it once every 7 years --- when you do need it there is no substitute.
Just install a front reciever hitch.
@@darrylpaterick3108 You can't. For the same reason you can't just add tow hooks.
@@darrylpaterick3108 I checked other RUclipsr about tow hooks video, the air dam is on the way to mount anything/tools. Maybe wait till some aftermarket parts come up. Hopefully not too expensive.
I couldn't agree with you more on the lousy rear bumper design making it even more difficult to get in the bed. I'm in my mid fifties with 32 years as a carpenter behind me and I use that corner of the bumper to step on all the time to climb in. That's gone in the new Tundra. Also, the tow hooks... Absolutely mind boggling. I just got my 2017 Tundra stuck off the edge of a driveway in mud and snow backing in my 20' trailer. A worker on site used an excavator to hook onto my tow hooks and pull me out. There would have been no way to get under the truck to hook on to anything. It was buried. This plus the truck is so ugly in the front end, I'd be embarrassed to drive it, I will not buy another Tundra. I've owned four Tundras and one Tacoma since 1998. They are losing a long term customer because of poor design.
They are not the best at listening to their customers. You and I both use our Tundra's for work. One thing they excel at is quality. In 14 years of owning a Tundra I've only been let down once with a worn out starter. Down time is expensive. I can't say the same for the Dodge and Fords that I've had. Stick with Toyota.
@@MBTUE You are correct about the quality. That is a real concern for me as, like you said, down time is expensive. I will probably go with a heavy duty truck as they are somewhat more reliable than the 1/2 ton versions. For the price of the new Tundra, I can get a 3/4 ton domestic. I have a couple years before I have to make that decision, so I'll see if Toyota corrects any of the design flaws.
Disagree on the looks because I think it looks great as long as you do not go with the chrome grill surround. It needs to be color matched like the TRD PRO.
Newer highlanders and Tacomas are nothing but issues.
You hit the nail on the head. I’m getting a new truck this year and it’s between the hybrid Toyota and the power boost Ford. The only thing I didn’t think about is the lighting. The generator is the biggest thing for me, I live in Florida and with hurricanes I think it be very beneficial.
ProPower on Board is a game changer
I'm an RV'er plus we're building a remote cabin; for us, the Pro Power Onboard was a big big feature. Our new Lariat Powerboost is coming in the spring and we're over the top waiting for it. I've seen first hand what my brother's Powerboost is capable of while his family are RV dry camping (boondocking) with their RV and how he uses it at work.
I have a 2014 Sierra and it was the first year for the bumper steps and I use them everytime I get on the bed, I have used the tow hooks for myself and to help others. And my approach lighting looks the same as the 2022 Tundra. My truck is 8 years old and still has more useful features then the brand new Tundra. And I don’t have to subscribe to keep my remote start working lol.
I’ll stick with my 2019 Tundra TRD Sport with tow hooks.
Good video. The wimpy inverter, lack of tow hooks and side lighting really put me off. I'm amazed there isn't another competitor out there with something like the Powerboost inverter/generator setup. It seems so handy, especially so with campers!
If you want a generator then buy a generator
While it might be some cool little gadget to stick on a truck… How many people actually use something like that on a regular basis?
It’s just another gimmick and it’s sad to see Ford resort to crap like that instead of just sticking with making a good solid truck for a reasonable price like they used to do
@@tv-ke4lx Tons of people will utilize the Powerboost. Camping is more popular than ever, and the powerboost is perfect not just for boondocking at state parks but also for quick overnight stops in Walmart parking lots etc… Eliminating the need to carry a portable generator and especially fuel is a big deal. People are absolutely begging Ford to add it into the Superdutys for this exact reason. Same goes for Zone Lighting- I didnt even consider it when I bought my new Tremor, its now my favorite part of the truck and gets used everyday. Ford still builds a solid truck, they’ve just added features and value.
@@tv-ke4lx You don't have to buy it. There are lots of people who would use it, including our family for RV camping and for our trips out to the lake at our remote cabine. Not to mention contractors.......
@@tv-ke4lx why would I buy an external generator and take up valuable bed space and payload along with keeping up with its maintenance and not a truck that can do it all?
@@tv-ke4lx exactly y thoughts along with everyone I know in the trades industry. Go buy a Honda generator and get better performance
Auto 4x4 is missing, It's great to prevent wheel slip on rainy days at stop signs. Also for those winter days after the roads are plowed but there are occasional ice patches or partially covered roads
XLT does not have Auto 4x4 either. Lariat and up do.
@@andyd5492 yeah I’m willing to bet the new Capstone model will be equipped with a 4A transfer case.
I had auto 4wd in the XLT IIRC.
@@andyd5492 I have a 22 F150 powerboost XLT and it has auto 4x4
@@mattbrew11 interesting, Ford only calls out 4A in Lariat and above, so maybe it can be specifically optioned on Powerboost equipped models?
My biggest problem with the new Tundra is how much louder everything is compared to the F150. So much rattling everywhere.
But but Toyota reliability and quality....lol newer Toyotas are nothing but problems. Marketing has screwed over anyone buying them into thinking it's a great brand
Do they seriously have bad interior rattles? Door rattles on gravel? All I’ve had is new duramax’s and they’ve all been good to about 20,000 miles. Then everything starts to rattle.
@@stirv6462my 22 sienna is squeaking and rattling lol
I do like the features on the F 150. The zone lighting is very nice at night. I also like the infotainment system with the split screen. Everything I’ve read about the Toyota infotainment system I think I’d probably agree with you on it. As far as the power, not that it matters if one has a little more power than the other, line em up! 😎
I live in Quebec and i can tell you that in winter, everybody uses the tow hooks at least one if not two times during winter. I can't understand that Toyota don't care about that.
Mpg
I have had a 2022 Tundra for a few months now. I always buckle my seat belt so I fine the reminder very annoying! My driveway is a few hundred feet long and this annoying reminder drives me nuts before I even out of my driveway! There should be someway To adjust when the alarm begins and the duration of the alarm. Guess that will never happen!
Thanks for reviewing this feature!
Mike said his customers don’t need a locker … they don’t …. Power to run a saw , lights , power house during a storm, tundra owners don’t need tow hooks , or even a hitch , mike thinks we don’t even need 4x4 his customers feed back has let them know , tundra owners don’t storage , or anything that a truck needs … thee online research has let Toyota of Japan know that … tundra owners need a v-6 turbo that’s exactly what Texas owners want !!! Texas men don’t want a v8 …. This truck has forced me as super most loyal Toyota owner to go buy a tremor !!! Thanks mike and Toyota !!!
Priceless!
Toyota is and has been out-of-touch with 1/2 ton pickup buyers. They might as well throw the towel in like Nissan and focus on midsize pickups. They will be dead last in sales again, along with Nissan.
EPIC RESPONSE 😂😂😂 Enjoy your ford. I just got a 22 Powerboost and I love it almost as much as my ecodiesel gladiator on 40s (different uses obviously)
Ehhh as much as I love V8’s I’ll take forced induction. Technology has advanced and Toyota knows what they’re doing. Would still like for them to add a V8 later on
@@4.0cowboy I think you missed the nuance of his comment. It's about customer choice, not which technology is better.
You nailed it, i'm deciding between tundra and f150 and my list is the pretty close . i would add why on earth toyota still has transmission tunnel and no storage underneath the rear seat in hybrid model.
Ordered a 22 lariat sport for these reasons. Toyota Messed up on this one.
I’ve owned several Tundras, but I cannot understand why the Toyota engineers decided to remove tow hooks. I’m off road a lot and wouldn’t have a sense of security knowing there gone. Cmon Toyota let’s get em back on for 2023….
Just the zone lighting and the power onboard is enough for me to lean toward the Ford. As an outdoors man, (hunter, fisher, camper) those two items are invaluable.
Great honest review, the chrome all over the truck is virtually a deal breaker for me aesthetically. Also not crazy about 60k OTD for a mid level truck. Disappointing.
I just don’t like chrome. I got the sport package in my 2021 ranger. It gets rid of all the chrome. The truck looks much better
I've really liked the part where you show the poor lighting Toyota Tundra has -- blame the bean counters (ops I am one of them). And finally, a reviewer that openly says that the new 2022 Tundra is ugly. I was saying that on day one since I saw the truck.
I agree
When you don’t like the looks of something it’s a piece of shit and no one should buy it
Lighting around the outside of an automobile for the off chance that you were parked in the middle of nowhere in complete darkness?
That is absolutely hilarious
What have you done for the last 40 years considering lighting around the outside of automobiles has not existed until just recently
@@tv-ke4lx I second that opinion. I have to really like the look of any vehicle I own or else I have I will never be satisfied with it. The Tundra is not a look I like.
I said from day one it is an ugly truck and all the other truck/suv review vlogs are afraid to say it ! Thank you !
@@craigroosa9321 Yeah, I am with you, and I really tried hard to like it. I saw it two times in person; it does not matter whether you see it in person or not - it is still a very ugly truck. I still hate the exterior.
They can easily fix the front grill and the front lights if needed to adjust the appearance because of the new grill.
I am not sure about the long hood since it is a safety requirement to protect pedestrians. That will stay. The sad thing is that the front visibility is poor and you can actually hit someone, especially children.
The weird fender flares - an old school design, which they can fix easily or the buyer has to lift the track and put 35" wheels and then it will look good.
Overall, it is a good truck, and people will buy it because of the shortage. But once the shortage is resolved, the new Tundra does not have a chance to compete against big 3 and 3/4 and 1 ton pickups - pricing sucks; it is ugly; and does not offer V8 engine.
I 💯 agree! Toyota just doesn’t get it! They need a top down reorganization to get back to their roots. Most Toyotas are freak’n ugly now, with their horrid grills. I love the reliability, but the little things add up to a vehicle that’s undesirable to the masses.
Really you will turn down quality over a grill. You are a real smart investor.
@@tiggerwoods100 - If it’s ugly, it’s ugly & I don’t want it. You can’t polish a TuRD. BTW, new automobiles are almost NEVER an investment.
@@cmdrdarwin3682 agreed 100% 👍👍
I don’t think this truck is going to age well and I do believe it’s going to come up short in ultimate comparisons once the hype is over. Hard to say just looking at pics and videos but the interior looks cheap. Ram blows it away in that area. Also, where is the auto 4wd?
Absolutely. Once the Toyota hype/propaganda machine settles down, it's over for the new Tundra. It will be dead last, along with the Nissan Titan.
Theres a reason that toyota has only ever outsold Nissan in half tons
Big dissapointment for me in the tundra is the back seats. After living with the fully flat floor in the f150 I just couldnt live with that giant built in box that isnt removable and the giant trans tunnel. Cant beat being able to place large items in the cab for example a milwaukee packout rolling case which doesnt fit under a tonneau cover.
My flat floor in the F150 is one of the best features. You’re right that huge box back there is horrible and no one calls it out
Rather interesting to hear negativity about the fixed storage space under the back seat..as so many customers complained about the flat floor and not having a storage box that Toyota had to do something after 14yrs of people complaining about not having the storage box..of course then Toyota made the bad decision to then use that storage space for batteries on the hybrid model..just unbelievable really..the type of battery choosen takes large amounts of space and they didn't want the battery to suffer from cold weather issues like other competitors models by placing batteries outside the cab..How about that 120 volt 400 watt power outlet in the bed..I guess it could be used for a cellphone charger but that's about it..Why not put a full 15amp 120volt normal outlet that could be used for power tools or camping etc..and zero tow hooks..unbelievable choices..
I agree…love the flat floor in the back of my Ford! Was waiting to see who else would notice this besides me.
@@jeffmichiels251 the F150 floor is so good I’m amazed it doesn’t get mentioned more. I use it all the time for my gym bags, dog and general storage. I see the tundras box back there on the old and new and I’m amazed no complains about it. I would
@@michaelfsadni6917 exactly…I also use mine for dog kennels that can sit flat on my f150 floor and many other things that I can haul back there because there IS a flat floor.
You nailed it! I agree with you 100% on the differences between the two. I thought that you were going to miss the crappy styling issues on the the Tundra,, but nope you got that one too! The only minor difference in my opinion and yours is the cheesy fake exhaust sound. I’ll never be on board with that. I’ve owned too many V8 muscle cars to agree with the replicated muscle sound. Excellent video though. I’ll be there for your next one.
I'll take the stock 2.7 eco boost noise over fake pumped in noise tons of vehicles have now. It's a new truck I want quite, I've got an lb7 for noise
Agree … it’s crazy they don’t put tow hooks on the Tundra. A locking rear but no hooks
It’s crazy. I agree, But the entire front end is plastic…I don’t like the fact they don’t put a bumper on the front. But some people like it…and I think it looks pretty good. Not the best looking truck. But it’s grown on me
Of all the cons you listed of the tundra, the one that absolutely bothers me the most... is no tow hooks. Absolutely mind boggles me. I hope tundra realized they screwed up big time on that... all the other things you mentioned I think I could live with. Looks like I'll be keeping my old reliable 07 tundra for awhile...
I would keep the old gen as well that is a actual truck.
In this market, keep it until it just won’t go anymore
I gotta say the onboard generator in the Ford is brilliant for people on areas where power goes out a lot. I’m on the Louisiana Gulf coast so……..yeah. I have a portable generator that wires to a transfer switch. It’s a pain in the ass to roll it out, put some gas in it, then the power comes on a couple hours later. Then I have to burn off the gas at some point so it doesn’t go bad in the tank. The truck is always right there. It always has gas. That’s just brilliant if you ask me.
I’ve owned 4 tundras , I’ll be a ford owner soon … thanks to the designers of the new tundra and mike with his logic of tundra owners!!!! Remember mike …. You guys made this truck and didn’t make it for men !!!!
@Eric Grayson Huh? The front grill and ugly rear end make for more reliability?
@Eric Grayson no body had to make the horrific front end, no bumper, now tow hooked tundra to increase its reliability
Fords front ends are butt as ugly as well.
Can't beat that Ford sir! 💯💯
Wow, great video, thank you very much, you are saying out loud what we, who were waiting for this truck with excitement and a lot of impatience, feel and think about this new truck and that, with the right tone in addition! A truck that has strengths, but a tone that makes Toyota understand that some of their decisions are just plain stupid, but I mean ... "not fun" particularly stupid. Thank you very much!!
Great review. I could not agree more that Toyota does some things extremely well, and other things leave you shaking your head. My friend has a 2021 XLT F150 and that thing is loaded and rides and drives way better than the 2020 F150. He has the 2.7 and it feels better than my V8 Tundra. Also the lighting in the F150 is incredible. I have high hopes for the future of the Tundra but they still need to do more I believe.
@@xk302a … yup, much more responsive. I love the 5.7, but being honest the 2021 F150 2.7 eco boost is the truck I would buy right now if I were looking. They all have their issues but Ford is currently offering the most for your money IMO.
I have the 2.7 Ecoboost and it's a great motor. Sport mode is a blast
@@xk302a .. How so?
The 2.7 will absolutely smoke the 5.7 in every way
@@rubicondickweed word
I almost waited for the Tundra hoping it would have Propower, i do love Toyota quality, but no Propower equivalent would have been a deal breaker, glad I went ahead back in Sept and pulled the trigger on the Ford. Not crazy about the sound of the electric transmission fluid pump or the weak fuel door, but other wise, very happy
Weak fuel door?
I think your spot on for hard buttons on certain controls: fan speed, heat/cool. Muscle memory. I don't want to navigate through a touch screen to change certain things. No matter how you look at it, touch screens are disruptive for keeping your eyes on the road. Hopefully, you don't have to make that spit second decision while scrolling through all your screens to turn on the defroster.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Toyota didn't raise the bar with this truck, they just met the industry standard. In 2 years this truck will feel outdated. In 15 years when toyota redesigns the tundra again it will be 20 years behind the times.
I own a 2008 Tundra and test drove the new Tundra the other day. Sure, 2 years from now the truck will feel outdated. my 2008 however has been outdated for more than a decade. I don"t like paying for a bunch of stuff that i don't need and potentially breaks down. I used to drive Chevs and all the local part stores knew me by name. All i need the truck to do is go for a long long time without needing any repairs.
@@rockymountainman7 hopefully toyota can maintain the reliability they are known for. With all the marketing that has surrounded this truck they definitely over promised on what the truck was going to be. World beating and top of the class it is not. I bought a new tundra in 2018 because I was afraid they would screw up the redesign and I am glad I did. I also wanted a truck without all the electronic crap that ford and chevy have. The "old" tundra was the best option. Hopefully the new platform will be proven and reliably by the time I decide to get a new truck again.
@@browndogstt8546 That TRD pro is the nicest truck out and with Toyota reliability it’s a safe long term investment as well.
@@browndogstt8546 engine has been used since 2017 in Lexus vehicles with a higher horsepower rating. Pretty sure the R&D was done well
@@4.0cowboy you would think so but I have never seen a lexus pulling a heavy trailer, or setting at a job site idling for 8 hours a day. Since this engine has been changed to fit the truck role it is fair to say that the reliability is still questionable. I really hope they get it right but I won't be the guinea pig to find out. Fact is i will never buy another tundra. If toyota keeps progressing down the subscription ally i will never buy another toyota. I currently own 4 toyotas and have owned at least one at all times during last 22 years. My current tundra will probably be my last.
Last year I bought a Tundra and it was piece of junk! After 8 days I couldn’t take it anymore & I took it back to the dealership - it cost me a couple of grand but they took it back! Then I walked across the street & bought a Lariat & I love it.
I love Toyota for their legendary reliability and great resale value. That being said, not including tow hooks on any of the 2022 Tundras is a huge mistake. How could it even be called a truck it it doesn’t come with tow hooks?
Because these new piles of overpriced plastic are basically family vehicles. I agree though should have tow hooks. All these new trucks kind of suck in various ways but they drive nice!
Probably because of the it's design the bed and the towing capacity that far exceeds any other class of vehicle
@@cooperfontenot1100 lol my 2015 3.5 f150 with max tow is better factory what are you talking about?
@@crambow I wasn't talking to you. He asked how can it be called a truck if it doesn't have tow hook. I sarcastically explained why it's still a truck, knowing it was a rhetorical question.
@@cooperfontenot1100 oops! Sorry!
reasons why I ordered a 22 F150 over the Tundra. Im not paying for remote start after 2 years. No tow hooks, No tailgate steps. Better infotainment system and I still want a V8. Thanks for sharing Tim!
I agree I was torn between the two and eventually I chose ford power boost because it’s packed with feature I wanted. Love the tow hooks, tie downs, bed lightning, auto tailgate release plus the infotainment on ford is awesome not to mention 430 hp and 570 torque no brainer come on. Toyota no to mention the interior and exterior is all plastic and outdated. One more thing the room and space in ford is awesome too
No matter what the new tundra is disappointing.
Nothing amazing,nothing terrible.
Thing is it's a truck years in the making and its "average" at best.
Guess I was expecting more....
Another great video Tim ! After listening to likes and dislikes anyone would be better off with the Tundra. Build quality etc should be the number one thing when buying any vehicle.
I would still buy a Tundra over a Ford any day, but your gripe about lighting, 400W outlet, and lack of tow hooks are totally legit. Please Toyota, lets move forward!
One more comment on this video - this is exactly the kind of content / feedback Toyota needs to improve their products .... both with your video as well as the comments. When I buy my Platinum or 1794 Hybrid Crew Max with a 6.5' bed in Silver or SuperSonic Red (still on the fence with the two models & two colors), I fully expect my new truck will be better because of these videos - for that, thank you!
I hope the seats on the tundra are better than they used to be. My 21 seats were hard as rocks and the most uncomfortable seats I have had by far. The flat rear seat on the f150 turned it into a very large area for hauling big loads in the cabin. Tundra did feel better put together but the f150 seemed more usable in every way. Half the switches were not even illuminated in my tundra. Guess it’s a toyota thing cause my 4Runner had no light on the overhead sunroof switch.
Valid point.
Toyota of now is not the Toyota of yester-year.
Funny you mention it, even my 2009 RAV4 Sport V6 , fully loaded doesn't have an illuminated sunroof switch ;)
Tim you are right in one aspect in that ProPower on board is a GAME CHANGER!!
Me? I don't like where pickup trucks are headed , way too many more things to break down.
Used those front Tow Hooks 2 days ago to drag a Ford Edge out of traffic when a Friend failed to make the turn in snow and snapped her front passenger Tie Rod on a curb. Drive up behind her, hook up, pull her out. No silly 180 turn to get myself facing the correct direction.
The only thing I like in tundra is the interior.
The rest can go.. it's just really ugly to look at.
Also..
F150 is just way more advanced.
Lighter Aluminum body.
Thicker frame more and smarter options.
Looks much better.
and you can get it with a built in generator.
Full electric lighting option.
Ford raptor option.
👉Tremor which is my favorite one so for.
Well. Good try Toyota, but
🤢🤮 Get new designers bruh.
Entirely flat rear seat floor and vinyl seats on f150. I'll be buying an XL with options to make in vinyl seat xlt without the tech I don't want. No other company does this
Totally agree with you!
60k is nuts! I'm happy with midsized trucks, half the price and alot of the same truck features. A bed, 1500 hauling and 7k towing done 👍
Great summary Tim! Another big miss in my book by Toyota is no 4A. Owning a 2018 Expedition Max, have recently had a few things go that required a visit to the shop that just shouldn’t be happening yet and wouldn’t happen in all likelihood in a Toyota. Yet the Sequoia has the same misses as the Tundra and is way too stubby. Another plus for me for the Ford is the remote start from your phone on the app. Love that feature.
Thank you for this video. I was waiting for this comparison from you knowing that you had a powerboost. You hit it spot on. I also believe that Toyota did enough to catch up. Knowing that Toyota dont do updates until maybe 7 years I think it will look old very quick. I am a Ram guy. But I like what Ford offers with the powerboost. It makes it very practical. Hard decision for me that I am on the market for a new truck.
I traded my 21 Powerboost in on a 24 Tundra Platinum no regret doing it.
If your power goes out, you might....
@@21divel fortunately I have a whole house gas generator so I’m good.
I guarantee a lot of these missing features will be available in years to come on the Tundra, for instance the lighting and the tow hooks. I will take Toyotas reliability ANY DAY and resale value over Ford, Chevy, or Ram. For me id sacrifice a few bells and whistles for a longer lasting truck that will require a lot less maintenance as time goes on.
Ford has waaaaaaayyyy better resale value than Toyota!
@@richardjackson5670 please share whatever it is you are smoking. haha
Hi Tim I`m a new subscriber. I`ve owned 2006,2007,20015,2017 Tundras. The last was a 4wd SR5. All were very solid trucks. Recently purchased a 2018 XLT sport with the Coyote. 2 reasons for the change. Much better gas mileage(5.7 vs 5.0) biggest factor I don`t have back aches anymore. Sport cloth seats are sooo comfortable!!!
After driving the Tundra one thing I much better liked about the Ford is drivers visibility it just feels more open while the Tundra you feel enclosed in the truck. Not to mention the Tundra had the check engine light and a couple of other problems that were coming up in the front display turned me off. I think the Tundra might be my next truck in a few years once they fix those problems and add tow hooks just because I want toyota's reliability and quality but for now it seems like the first year has it share of problems.
Nice to see a comparison and an opinion of someone neutral who has owned and driven all of them...nothing worse to hear absolute fanaticals talking like their vehicles are "the" only good ones...well, it looks like the Tundra is a nice truck that would suit better one who really like trucks but uses it as a normal every day car...no Off roads and no comercial use...
I’m 62 and am one of those peeps that drives a vehicle for 10 years and drives it into the ground. Reliability is my #1 priority. At my age I’m looking for my “last” vehicle that will tow my 3500 pound travel trailer just fine and comfortably cross country without me worrying about breakdowns. Any tips or suggestions for me?
Thank you so much for the great reviews and content you create and share?
Toyota, Nissan, Chevy, Ford, Ram in that order.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Thank you! The Nissan inclusions surprises the heck out of me; which Nissan? Ad which Chevy model(s)? Based on videos and what I've read, the Ram last on the list surprises me but, hey, that's based on information from videos and reports! 🙂 Thanks!
@@richarde1355 Titan and Silverado 1500. I was listing full-size trucks. Hard to break it down to specific trims and engines.
Great review man. The new tundra doesn’t look as ugly in person. Color matched with no chrome looks pretty good. I think overall the 21’ Ford is my pick but I think the new Tundra will be great for Tundra fans in the next decade.
Of course it doesn't look as bad in person. They copied the F-150.
No tow hooks are a deal killer for me. Had my wife's SUV pulled out of ditch. A ditch full of snow. Had to shovel to get out of car. Tow truck had to pull against front air dam, etc. It does not take long to create $2,000 worth of damage to plastic parts. I live in North Dakota. Winter is common here.
I hear you. Jill lives in Chicago and Tim lives in Nebraska. Winter is a big concern for both of us.
Man, that Ford was so much better looking.
Nope
Your high on drugs
@@hurricane8634 first off, you’re* 😂
I'm going to say this. When your talking power train what something feels like doesn't matter. I and most truck drivers could care less if it feels more powerful. The numbers are what matters not feeling.
The comment about where "trucks used to be" vs "where they are going". The 2022 Tundra is as competitive as all of the 2022 competitors. Will the '2025" and "2028" Tundra be fundamentally the same as the "2022"? Probably but it will also be bullet proof. So, it is competitive today, leading in some areas, tied in other areas, a bit behind in a few areas as well. Meanwhile, GM, Ford & RAM constantly deliver new bells and whistles ... this is one reason a Tundra has earned its reputation for quality and reliability (cause GM, Ford & RAM never take the time to perfect their platform while Toyota does). I'm not disappointed with the 2022 Tundra. Sure, I wish it had a few more features & capabilities but my goodness, Toyota came out with so many new features ... they truly built a new truck from the ground up far exceeding what I've seen this extremely conservative company typically do over the 17 years I've been buying Toyota's (2004 Sienna was my first). Maybe, just maybe they've turned a corner as I see a LOT of opportunity for the Tundra to scale and grow over the next 10 - 15 years. Other engine options, packaging (ie Capstone, Pro in 6.5' bed (please), probably a hood scoop, fully electric, increase inverter power, payload, towing, etc, etc.
one of the best videographer blogs on the web...thanks for taking us along.
Even the big TRD PRO doesn't have toe hooks. Like what we're they thinking?
Not only that, but that horrendous front end is sacrificing approach angle, to the tune of almost 5 degrees on the 2022 Tundra Trd Pro when compared to the 2021 Tundra Trd Pro.
For all the people in the snow states there’s a chance you’ll be in the ditch and need pulled out or need to pull someone out. Yeah, you can use the hitch, but sometimes you can only get to the front
I love my '22 Tundra Platinum. I haven't had the issues with the infotainment system that you have. I think the lack of tow hooks is a foolish oversight, but isn't as big a deal for me. But, you nailed the two biggest issues for me. #1, the tail gate. I love the bump to open feature. But it is darn near impossible for me to get into it. It's impossible to custom order a Toyota truck and they aren't including the power bed step in the vast majority of the models they are sending out. To add the power step aftermarket is almost $1500. So, I'm pretty upset about that issue. #2, the lighting is pretty abysmal. I do like that while driving at night, my wife can turn one on to read without distracting me as a driver. However, they should have incorporated much more general lighting in the truck and outside. As for the looks. I love how it looks. I just finished the 2" leveling lift kit and new tires. It looks Amazing!
Hi Mark.. do you have any videos or pictures of your 22 tundra platinum..would love to see it with the new wheels and lift...I have mine coming in the next 2 months.
You’re honestly the only one who gives me hope I have a 2022 tundra SR5 on order. You’re the only one who is positive about this truck everyone else is just saying it’s nothing but problems. I hope you’re right
I use my 2001 f150 almost every day still and I get in and out of the bed multiple times a day. That bumper design is just mind boggling to me. And no tow hooks??????
I am all for better riding, more refinement, better engine packages, more tech etc…., but a truck must still be a work horse when called upon.
All of the pros you have said for the Toyota are the most important things about a great truck. Features I couldn't care less about since you can add things like lighting and whatever aftermarket. Also with Toyota you're paying for quality not quantity.
The Ford Powerboost F150 is patently faster than this version of the Tundra. Andre already dragged the Tundra with his XL Powerboost. Any notion that this Tundra is faster is baloney.
Is having a faster pickup truck all that important?
@@ALMX5DP It must be, as TFL gets big views drag racing and doing 0-60's.
@@rebelcitysports1outlook713 lol it certainly gets viewership that’s for sure.
@@ALMX5DP No. That was what was implied by the video. Did you even watch the video?
@@paulchalos8502 portions, and it sounded like it was just Tim's impression of power delivery. Sorry if you felt it was implied that it was actually faster or that faster was an important takeaway here.
I was "forced" to buy a pick up with running board without lights. The plan was to buy a running board with lights after I bought the truck. So I kinda feel your pain.
Tim my 19' F150 Lariat with 3.5 EcoBoost has the engine sound dubbed over to sound like a v8 under acceleration. I absolutely hate it ,I'd rather hear the turbo whistle. Personally,I think your F150 Powerboost was 10 times the truck your Tundra is.Just my opinion.
If you get FORSCAN you can disable the engine sound
@@mattbrew11 thank you for that tip!
So I wonder if he had a Lariat, like I do, if he would have liked the interior better. When I walk up to my truck, and the lights turn on when I get close to it, as if it’s greeting me, I smile every time! There are more exterior lights on the Ford, and they are down right useful. I would be shocked if that Tundra is faster than the ford, which smokes every other truck in a 1/4 mile race.. it is shockingly fast. Yes the old man step is useful, interior and exterior lighting is useful, the self driving cruise control with the 360 cameras, are just plain useful. The fords tech is not gimmicky! It is just plain useful. I wouldn’t trade my 2021 F-150 Lariat for anything besides another one!
Excellent and fair video. Seems like Toyota built a solid new “old school” truck, but completely missed the progress of trucks over the past 5 or so years. You nailed the point regarding Ford offering more features. I have a new F150 Tremor that I bought for it’s offroad and towing chops. However on a daily basis the thing I unexpectedly love the most is the Zone Lighting (including approach lighting). It’s features like Zone Lighting and power on board that have modernized new trucks and added more usability and in my opinion value. Hard to justify the same price for a Tundra when it lacks so many features and necessary equipment like tow hooks.
Zone lighting is the best. I simply can’t make a big enough deal of that feature.
Are you going to keep it long term Adam ? I liked the tremor but worried about ford lasting 300-500 K miles …
@@spindrift2719 I don’t generally keep a vehicle beyond 100-120k miles, which is only 4-5 years max. I’m usually bored by then and just like new vehicles. Would rather pay a monthly payment than repair bills and frustration.
That being said living in a rural area and with the push for all electric tech that is still a long ways off from being practical for me this truck might stay around longer. I admit my last Ford was a 2018 F150 that was such a dumpster fire as far as reliability that I dumped it a 50k miles for a Jeep Gladiator. Really hoping this one is different, so far at 4k miles it is flawless. The Tremor is the best all around truck I’ve owned for my purposes, feels like a truck that was built just for my needs.
@@Pickuptrucktalk My 2020 Ram Rebel has GREAT lighting!
@@spindrift2719 My 96 Ford F150 with a 5.0L (302) Windsor V8 has 210,000 miles on it and still going strong 💪.
averaging 23 on my first 600 miles 2022 Tundra
I found my Ford was far more comfortable. I also felt like my Ford had more punch, but not by much.
My F-150 was pretty solid off road while I’ve been hunting, and yes I’ve been stuck ( while making a 30 point turn on a logging road) …. Used the tow hooks and a winch…on that note, where would you put a winch on the Tundra?
I loved all the features of my old Ford, it was truly exciting to drive. My tundra is a nothing burger, but it works. It really hit home when you said this Tundra is what all the trucks have been doing for some time now, and the Tundra didn’t come out any better. I too like solid buttons, when I’m off road, it’s almost impossible to do anything on a touch screen unless you stop. My Wife’s RAV4 adventure package has that new info system, and all I can say is it really sucks… it’s not competitive with others at all. You should take out that head piece and put a bobble head, it’s far more productive and entertaining
Your on point with the tailgate. It’s useless and it really turns the bed into an empty suitcase for me
Your wife’s RAV4 has the old Toyota infotainment. Tundra is the launch model for the new one.
@@austinschumacher8482 oh
I wasn't sure about the look at first but really like it now. That's my personal opinion though.
I agree with you on everything and your buddy Mike said they had QRD in mind when they did the tailgate they didn’t want a lot of different moving parts ….
On the Ford you just tested it was like your “Best Friend” that lights up when you come near!
You may think it has more power but everybody already knows it does not have more power because on tfl they raced the F-150 against the tundra and it wasn't even close the F-150 whooped its ass badly
Yes seen that.
Pretty sure that was the race one including the TRX and it was the Raptor truck. I think a more fair comparison would be the hybrid engine v the F150 Raptor.
That was the powerboost let tfl try it against the I force max. Apples to apples. But the tundra did beat the 2022 raptors ass. But I guess no one saw that one. So let's hear yea it had 37s and not fair , blah blah.
Fair comparison would be powerboost vs i force max and 3.5 ford be 3.5 tundra.
I think it’s the torque and how it comes on earlier in the rev range vs the F-150z