"He's angry. He's always explicit. Everything is these wide powerful slashes that aren't necessarily good for defense." this man here explaining why the sith always lose fights
Bruh Sith are gods compared to Jedi when lightsaber fighting cause they don’t really sit around meditating; All they do is train. Maybe some big boy monster Sith but even then they get like 4+ vs 1
@@carlosvilla4672 i get your point, but not all jedis are like that. there are 3 types of jedis, with the exception of the grey jedis. jedi guardians ( anakin and obi-wan ) are the ones who focus on martial skills and lightsaber forms more than other aspects. take mace windu as the prime example
wasnt Rey the one who was in such a bad position that they had to edit out one of the weapons of her opponent for him not to just instantly kill her? xD
I mean, he does need to take into account when it's a fictional and mythical world haha Geralt is a goddamn mutant And while thrones never did a good job capturing how good Jaime is at swordplay, making Ned hold up to him with Ice was just frustrating haha
@@ExtremeDeathman he calls it a longsword because the swords in the scene were longswords and he was referring to them, just using his bihander as an example to show where the different parts of the blade were
I wish they’d let him pick his favorite, most realistic sword scene ever and explain what makes it good. I kept expecting one that he just said: “this is the good one I was waiting for.”
hoped so too. but i think the best ones are the fights with no spinning. it's just crazy how often they turn their backs wide open to the enemy. makes every fight unreal
If you want to know a very good European fight scene in fiction when it comes to actual martial play (there are still fantasy magic elements) ironically comes from an animated feature known as Maria the virgin. To prove my point I do have a video link that I can edit in if someone would like to see it.
Princess Bride: "This, in case you didn't know it, is the best fight scene ever, in any film, EVER." Wasn't sure how I felt about him, but now he's one of my favorites.
Total bullshit. The sword fight between Basil Rathbone (a sword master as well as an actor, best known for his portrayal of Sherlock Holmes) and Tyrone Power, from the 1940 film 'The Mark of Zorro', knocks the Princess Bride into a cocked hat. Sword fighting has been in films from the silent days, yet this guy just concentrates on relatively recent films, so it's hardly a good assessment of sword-fighting in films.
@@dorotaurbanska6654 I happen to be personally a fan of Daniel Olbrychski, (and incidentally also of his grandson Anton, whose work both as actor and as swordsman you can check here in YT), but you certainly can not compare his fighting skills, great as it was, to that of the great Dame Margaret Taylor Rutherford, DBE. Do check the fight at the end of her movie! 😀 (OK, enough. For those who miss the jokes: _Potop_ (a.k.a. The Deludge) is a well-known Polish historical drama that includes one of the best saber duels of cinema history, done by two actors who also were great fencers. It's legendary because, well, incredible fencers. And Murder Ahoy is a Miss Marple mistery film whose ending includes an humorous saber duel betwen the villain and Miss Marple, played by a venerable actress that in her 70-odd years had never handled a sword. It's _also_ legendary because, well, 70-old actress who insisted in _learning fencing to do the scene herself_ (as it could be her last chance to do so) and put a surprisingly convincing fight, putting her weight in the parries and doing a better job than many a well-known "action" actor).
The thing is, fights in movies are not made (usually) to look realistic, but to look cool. Now again, you have the GoT/Witcher/Star Wars kind (which usually do look cool), and then you've got, uuuuuh...that 007 one. Which is just eww.
@@IshgarSeth While I agree, that movies shouldn't necessarily look realistic over looking cool, it is really cool to see proper swordsmanship. There is this hardly known old polish produced movie where they use actual polish sabersmen, and it has some really impressive scenes. Can't remember the name, but there's an anecdote of how two of the actors were fighting with real swords and got so zealous during the production, that one of the actors almost got a proper strike to (either something vital or his face can't remember). I've seen another youtuber cover it.
@@alastairvanmaren5243 It's because it's a breath of fresh air. There's no flynning of the blade, no minute of bad choreography, it's just 'block' then 'stab' then 'dead.' Generally speaking that is exactly what you want to do. Most sword fights only lasted a few seconds to maybe a half a minute at the absolute most, where someone made a mistake get badly wounded, bled out enough to become weakened by it then were overpowered and killed. Sword fights were never graceful, they were quick and brutal. Some techniques might have been graceful but that was a side effect of efficiency.
@@knockoffmjolnir4864 I don't know about you but the Hound hacking and stabbing his way through a line of men in a brutally efficient and simple method is loads entertaining.
Well, as someone who knows how to effectively hold and use a sword myself, I can tell from the short video clips and his explanations that Dave knows exactly what he is talking about.
@@joeshid9166 That is because swords are much more like scissors than they are like lightsabers, you can hold a scissor by the sharp side and move it without cutting yourself as long as there is no force pushing the blade into you. There is a fighting technique called half-swording which is built around this concept in case you want to learn more.
@@joeshid9166 That's because you can hold a blade with your hand and not be cut. The technique is called "Half Swording." Knights in medieval times would use half-swording to grip their sword by the blade, and then use the pommel to crush their opponent's helmet, if they found they could not breach the armor in any way.Half swording was used with a variety of other moves as well.
He's not an expert hes a sad nerd who got a good job given to him. Real experts are professional combatants who fight in leagues and historian combatants. The minute he said the princess bride was a good fight scene done it for the real ones. Hes an idiot
@@SH19922x MF have you even heard of HEMA? London longsword Academy is a rather prestigious school, you think you get to teach longsword for a living without participating in any tournament fights or with no historical combat experience?
Its really important to remember that in the Gladiator fight, Maximus is fighting after having a small knife or spike stabbed into his lower left abdomen. With that in mind any clumsiness is easily understood and justified (i.e. actually excellent choreography and acting)
I'm glad you mentioned this. I thought that when watching this video, as the expert (rightly) mentions other things to do with the off-hand, but Maximus has limited use of that hand due to his wound. He's fighting semi-one-handed and while suffering from increasing amounts of blood loss.
@@JudoGeoff Yep. If this video covered more of the dual it's evident that he's seriously injured from the start but still trying to use his off hand when opportunity presents itself (mostly in the hand-to-hand at the end).
To be fair, the choreographer for Princess Bride - Bob Anderson - was a well renowned fencer himself. Adds a lot more realism when you have someone who knows what they're doing training people. And the actors spent all their spare time practicing for the fight.
Look, its all fine, but if you rate the witcher, a series about a magic wielding mutant, about anything, you missed the point. Seriously. Hes the witcher. Thats saying to superman: You are not real, while you get melted by his eyelaser. We have magic swords here, my man!
Plus he didn’t compare fantasy to his world or style. The masters usually get sucked into that and you just have the audience going “your talking about the mountain and Jedi here. their not normal people and if they were real they would still kill you in two seconds”
I love how he makes a whole speech at the end about understanding and appreciating when things are done for theatrical or narrative effect and rates them highly, and then gives Zorro a 1/10 for that exact thing
He was saying he understands them from a story point of view, or entertainment value, but he's still rating off realism. He understands that movies are going to have impractical, flashy, or downright impossible moves, but his ratings are specifically based on realistic accuracy. For example the black knight from Monty Python is funny, and I'm sure he could see humor in it, but were he to rate it here he would probably give it a 1 or even a 0.
@@John_Smith. "because he's rating them on realism" Then why did he give TLJ throne scene a 5? He talked about how awful the fight was from a realistic standpoint and how it's mainly meant to convey emotions, and then he gives it a 5. The entire fight scene was theatrics, it was no better than the Kill Bill one, but it's rated higher for some reason?
One also has to admit that the humor being portrayed in that particular Zorro scene has not aged well. And I remember liking the film, but it wasn't something I watched more than once.
Noooo not the Blaviken fight! I love the Blaviken fight! I guess it all depends on perspective though, it's not particularly accurate but from a stunt perspective? It's near perfect. It tells the story, everything Geralt does physically in that scene has a purpose. I think it was primarily to show just how inhuman and powerful Witchers are, even against trained fighters. I just really like that fight scene, but to each their own!
Couldn't agree more, you have to take into consideration that witchers are super human in judging the fight I think. He might be backhanding it because he was playing with them.
The hard part about putting a “realistic” critique on any sword fight in The Witcher is that Gerald isn’t a normal person. He is a Witcher and he has superhuman strength and dexterity. He can do things like hold his sword reverse grip. Because he’s not afraid to lose to normal peopl.
Oh that show is terrible. In the books it's a totally different scene, much more enjoyable. The show distorted every ounce of information taken from the books(and that's not many given they changed most of the story). Only good thing is Cavill. And Jaskier's songs.
I bet he is gay the way he moves his hands. And there are lots of gay people whom have the same rugged look like him. His voice is smooth and he seems to be nice guy.
@Duende2211 do you really think that when making the series, the producers really designed a sword technique for super humans? It looks like that because it's flashy and looks better for the camera, gets more views. Don't make excuses for not being realistic, just accept for what it is and enjoy the show.
HaremGodRance He specifically said that this was the worst fight scene. Clearly didnt say anything about Geralt or the show being bad with sword fighting. Being superhuman doesn’t mean there aren’t more effective types of combat. HaremGodRance.
I really, really, wish that Dave Rawlings would do a review on more 'The Witcher' scenes. He opens by saying this is Geralts worst fight scene in the series... I would like to see a rating of some of the better ones. And more importantly comments and analysis
actually would love him to give this scene a second look.. yes, reverse grip is silly and shouldn't be used in a proper sword fight..BUT a longsword like that needs space, while they are fighting in an alleyway. Hitting your sword into the walls is probably one effective way of not making it out of the fight alive. Dave Rawlings knows what he's doing, and he might well think reverse grip is still a bad idea under constrained conditions, BUT his critique doesn't go into that at all..
I really like how Dave is able to separate and appreciate artistic fighting for what it is. Not necessary realistic, but emotional and as a storytelling tool. And I can't quite pinpoint it, but I get the impression that Dave is a really great teacher! Way to go!
Considering the fact that I’m pretty sure he has his own Hema club and his company makes most of the basic training swords used across even just America, yeah I would assume he’s a good teacher as well
I'm glad he liked that, I always wondered if it was "normal" for people to pull short blades during sword fights, like is it an expected move, a frequently used move etc And that moment was a great example of great a fighter he was
@@mssonoma1 From that move I understood what kind of people Lannisters are. Effective with a sword (fighting and commanding troops), but also with a backstab plan (or an unexpected eye stab) in there sleeve.
@@mssonoma1 Having a long sword and a short sword or dagger is more common than two long swords as shown in a lot of his clips. It's a useful sidearm in case you lose your main and you see a lot of Samurai carry both a long and short katana as standard equipment. I would say it's always available as an option but really depends on the situation. I wouldn't say normal since it requires a lot of distance to close into and it requires specific positioning to really do it without any awkward movements to reach the offhand and quickly pull it out to stab the other guy.
He absolutely won me over when he pointed out that the Princess Bride fight was a narrative and not a real fight. I was also surprised to see the rating for it.
I trained with the epee (basically a sport rapier) for 10 years and won a state championship, I can co-sign the fact the parts in between the dialogue and environmental stuff actually has quality bladework
All the best fight scenes are about the story and the characters more than the fight itself. Anyone can ask an expert to choreograph a fancy 10 minute duel, but great filmmakers realise it's another opportunity to tell us about how a character thinks and what their relationship with the other characters is. Take Star Wars for example. The Anakin vs Obi-Wan fight is long and complex, and spectacular... but the most interesting parts are when they're sizing each other up at the start, and the end when Obi Wan is expressing his grief as Anakin burns. You could cut most of the middle part out and it would be the same scene. Compare that to Luke and Vader in RotJ, where every moment is dripping with character drama.
It's amazing how he understands the theatricality of the scene, apart from the technical stuff. Movies are made in order to engage emotionally with the audience.
That's generally how video games work. In reality, however, when a one-handed sword and a two-handed sword are of similar length and mass, the two-handed swords moves more quickly because you're applying twice as much force.
@@MrHanderson91 The weight Isn't hugely different (1kg vs 1.5kg), but you have a point with the reach. Rapiers have advantages (especially rapier+dagger/buckler), but speed isn't it.
@@ArmorFrogEntertainment the difference isn't the force, it's the leverage. With a one-handed sword, you've only got one hand to control both the fulcrum and the tip of the blade. Even with a very well-balanced weapon, you are very limited in where you can move your blade and how quickly you can place it there. A two-handed blade literally adds another dimension of control, by giving you a forward hand to control the fulcrum or balance of the blade, and a back hand to control the tip. It completely opens up new possibilities for moving with the blade, new angles to attack from, etc. The trade-off is that two handed weapons have less effective range than a one-handed weapon of the same length, because you need to keep your body relatively square to keep both hands on the grip. A one-handed blade user can lunge and extend their entire arm with an attack, easily giving them two or three times as much range as someone keeping both hands on their sword. Hence why most one-handed blades are specialized for stabbing, to take advantage of their biggest strength.
I keep watching this video over time and it just occurred to me. This man REALLY looks like a Sword Master. Idc what world, timeline, era, or fantasy setting you choose, you're going to see a Sword Master that looks like him. You can really tell he's become the epitome of his craft.
That can be applied to 1-H, 2-H combats with swords. Otherwise he makes statements which are out of his field. Also it is seen, that he rates subjectively.
He's also aware that he's nitpicking; they could go for realistic non-stylized fighting, but only a small enthusiastic niche would be excited while the rest will miss the dynamics and tension (because they have no clue what's going on.) Not to mention that in some cases the stylizing adds to the story, one of the staples of movie making is 'show don't tell', it's harder to show someone's rage and erratic behavior using nuanced real sword fighting techniques than it is to just have him wail on his opponent like a barbarian with big movements. There's still a place for realistic fighting in movies that claim historical accuracy.
@@deltav864 If the character was presented as expertly trained in the communication of subtle clues to portray their intent, then this would be good. But I have been in real sword fights and dagger fights, with people both forcing a situation into existence along with the aggressor deciding all will perceive things their way. Instead of the nature of Full Formal Dueling, with all people being assumed to have the worst intent by every possible person. All this is followed with Full Formal Duels, having officials having their reputation drug through the mud. So we could start a movie with two men in drag, beating each other with verified as new, strong polymer versions of Women's Hairbrushes, then build a movie around the fall-out around the duel. Along with the possibility of two drag-kings punching things out, in a stereotyped masculine fashion, to create high profile personal injury. With all decaying until, no knowledge of what caused the conflict will happen. When an official comes to a full formal dueling decision, just ask how long will their professional reputation last. If a formal duel, the official determines the win or lose status; as a result, judgment call not effectiveness determines the win. Because the in-group status is formal dueling, with small groups and individuals. While informal duels do not need a stated reason, with that violence, happens at whatever skill level each participant has. As for informal-duels, the violence happens as shown in the movies with some full formal duels, with massive controversy happens. The fun stuff that most people will find to be boring will be both practice fights known as full informal duels for individuals and small groups. Along with plenty of formal duels, involving items such as walk-along paper airplane capture techniques. Just remember that the simulation is not the reality, especially when the simulation is actively twisted things to make it unrealistic. Then bureaucrats will point to the inaccurate by active inaccuracy preservation example, with calling this the same as real. To win around 19 out of 20 situations, just do not panic with this involving grinding into the anatomy of the pattern, so by habit, something functional will happen, even if the mind shuts down; as a result, puncturing the face can lead to a psychological stop. So losing a drop of blood, can turn the face pale and make the entire body shake, then the bulk of actions will be By-Rote-Performed.
@@TheVasek25 Not just with swords, learning a sword makes you also learn how to fight with a spear, with exception of spear specific things. Think of spears and swords less like pianos and guitars, and more like eletric guitars and acoustic guitars. Verrrry similar, with some specific things changed.
He was surprisingly positive to me. Like, "Yes, this is terrible and they'd both die in moments, but here are a couple things they're kind of doing right." That's maturity.
Most movie fights aren't really about the fighting. Even in something like John Wick the fights are there to tell a story and entertain us, and in the case of John Wick they certainly accomplished those two :)
@@yamchadragonball6983 John Wick movies are for the fights and any martial artist or firearms nut would tell you it's authentic. You basically said bs that you came up with on the top of your head... or the bottom of your a$$.
@@paulwhite9242 Except he didn't do that for The Witcher. Geralt fights the way he does because he's a witcher, our swordplay is irrelevant to someone who's so much faster and stronger
@@JustYTWatching It kinda does, since we still see he's of flesh and blood. Why try and be ineffecient with swordplay when you could be a lot more effecient, especially with better than the usual person's strength and speed.
Agree with both of you, 1000%. Daisey and Adam...the entire cast...were all very capable, talented actors and actresses. It sucks seeing the potential go to waste.
@@theMindwalker agreed. Disney was supposed to bring balance to the force. They were supposed to save the franchise, not destroy it /Makes Obiwan's pained and betrayed face
I gotta say.... That was one of the best and most detailed reviews of anything i've ever seen. I mean, this guy surely knows what he's talking about, you gotta appreciate that !
Thank you Insider, for hiring a guy that actually a HEMA practitioner and not just some stage fighting "expert". This particular reaction series with the experts in their field is a mighty good one.
I'm generally pretty forgiving with the Witcher specifically, because especially in the games, there was a real effort to make NPCs fight in a historically accurate manner. Geralt is a superhuman and his fighting style is designed to fight monsters. He outclasses any regular human by a massive metric. He can afford to use techniques that would get normal swordsmen killed. In the Blaviken fight in particular, I always saw it as Geralt having complete contempt for the men he's fighting. He's basically saying, "I'm so far beyond your level that I can beat you all easily while backhanding my sword."
There is a significance with the fencing scene in Princess Bride which very few people know: That scene is one of the main reasons why Anders Linnard, a very influential and early person in the HEMA community, started fencing many years ago. I claim that the HEMA community would have been what it is today without this scene.
@@ultratronger wait hold up? 2-3 seasons? are you telling me the battle of the bastards wasn’t perfect? the whole build up of season 7 (excluding “beyond the wall”) wasn’t good?
This guy expresses a whole psychology of swordfighting technique that I hadn't heard before. It sounds pretty much anyone who hasn't actually trained in swordfighting is more clueless about the subject than they realize because they don't know just how much they don't know. I also really like that a guy can be a professional sword master and critique technique in cinema, but can still enjoy a good fight scene even if it's not realistic.
Of the 4 levels of knowledge (knowing and awareness) we considered the beginner (dont know, and is not aware of it) quite high as he may do spontaneous effective stuff, where we 'knew' better.
Plus he respects his limits. He's talking about _Witcher_ serie, but describing fight against humans. He isn't discussing on how to fight damn monsters because actually humanity have very limited experience about it and not much chance to train. There were some hunting with spears in history and I had unarmed fight with angry dog, but we don't have kikimoras etc. around. We can only create theories.
I remember in practice always hearing about a kill timer. Essentially when two fighters enter each other's weapon range, there is a kill timer. It's up to you as the fighter to dictate how long that timer is and whether or not you'd pull out of that range to reassess the situation.
Fun fact about the princess bride scene, Bonetti’s defense is an Italian fencing form developed by Rocco Benetti, hence the retort of “I thought it fitting considering the rocky terrain” a little funny joke there 😉
@@blacktimhoward4322 If I understand, a Longsword is more dexterous due to being two-handed, allowing you to handle it better than a Rapier, which can sometimes be just as heavy but with one hand only. However, a Rapier's blade is still controllable, since most of the weight is on the decorated hilt, allowing you to constantly "poke" them with it. I'll add a Greatsword (Either a Zweihander or a Claymore) for Fantasy Class comparison. Longsword = Fighter Rapier = Rogue Greatsword = Barbarian
@@yenxin7407 I am still trying to piece things together at this point. I know a feint as a trick that forces the opponent to guard at that "attack", leaving an opening for you to exploit. And as of right now, no I do not properly know how to counter a feint yet. Certain weapons such as flails can't be feinted, due to their nature. Edits: I am quite familiar with the HEMA thing, but hadn't personally learned about it proper.
@@fenorlex1126 Having handled actual original historic rapiers (and swung them around a bit), they really feel a lot clumsier then longswords, they really do. The early ones are nearly as heavy as a longsword, and way heavier then one handed swords from the early medieval period (most viking era swords for example, are about 800g to 1kg.) The later ones are incredibly long, like in the 1.3+m range (yes, late rapiers are as long as claymore type swords, but one handed), and while they do have a pommel, it's so close to the hand that it doesn't help all that much with balance. Rapiers are very top heavy, especially the late ones are really meant as stabbing weapons, which explains the constant increase in lenght over the years. Once everyone noticed that, with rapiers being only really used in duels, is really doesn't matter how effective the sword is, as long as everyone has the same kind of sword, smallswords became a thing. A rapier in a scabbard is also very clumsy, there is a lot of basket hilt sticking out in front, and that long blade needs to be both high, and at a significant angle, to not constantly touch the ground.
@@Arkainum lol indeed, i forgot where it is now, probably Kyoto, but there's this region where it is known that people talk way too politely, but they actually mean the oppose, like saying "Would you like some tea" when they actually are starting to get annoyed with your presence and would like you to leave, so they say that expecting you to refuse it and leave hahahah i forgot where it is and the name they give it but it added even more layers of complexity to japanese (as if it even needs)
For the PrincessBride fight, they actually trained under two of the best fencers and teachers in the era, training every day even between scenes because the teachers knew that nobody would care, but they wanted to show people that actually knew what they were doing that it would respect and show they actually tried. This is mainly shown in the footwork. Wesley even had to train with a broken toe.
That explains a lot. I coached fencing for many years and someone told me they learned it all in two months, which I doubted because some of that bladework is far beyond the typical two month student.
"best fight scene ever in any film ever" Duel from THE DELUGE (Potop)... old Japanese movies where they are showing how real sword fight looks like(for example duel from Seven Samurai)... British movie The Duellists, not to mention if its just "fight scene" then it can be also with guns or empty hands and then you have so many good fight scenes to choice from...
I love watching Jill Bearup who is a stage fighter and analyzes movie fights from a story telling prospective. As in how much does this fight tell us about the characters fighting? But seeing a practical fight prospective from an expert is very cool too.
@@ronex8095 "He doesn't have to move, he knows the other man is going to attack, so he deflects the strike, controls the sword, and stabs him through the eye."
Well, again, he didn't judge the fight on swordmenship and for some reason straight up just said that it wasn't about the fight and was about the narrative.
My regular fencing club neighboured the Longsword Academy, and one night I met him on the tube and could just tell this guy was from the academy, because of those red and black pants and his bag of swords. Such a nice guy. He saw I was super-interested and at our stop he opened his bag and showed me all the swords at the station.
@@tyroneloki5131 George Lucas at least claimed Lightsabers are supposed to feel and handle pretty much like either Japanese katanas or European longswords. I believe that comes from the fact that the original lightsaber fight of Obi Wan vs. Vader in a New Hope was stylistically inspired by old Samurai movies and epics from the 40s and 50s.
@@tyroneloki5131 he's judging the fight style, not weapon props... Lightsaber wielding is shown in the movies so that should be a starting point... The problem is, some fights, like the one from RoTS are pretty good, but the one from the throne room is actually one of the worst fights ever filmed...
@@Student-qs7ey Naturally! one should always endeavour to seek new and interesting knowledge and better oneself. Besides, few things offer as comprehensive a training, both mental and physical, as martial arts. And hema also adds history in the mix - truly, not bad for a hobby. And if you're good and dedicated, you can always start training other folks...
@@gregorstamejcic2355 It's depressing that some people only consider the acquisition of skill or knowledge as a means to getting a job. "Live to work" mentality.
I love seeing experts in a field critique stuff. It’s just so fun to see people being so passionate One thing I love ab sword fighting is how many different styles there are to sword fighting. Like there are SO many different styles and different forms of blades that require different styles of fighting, it truly is an art form.
@@magmat0585 Halfswording and murderstroke/mordhau is actually the same thing. Where you grab the blade with both hands and strike with the hilt or the pommel.
@max 117 ???????????film is film ,evry sword person no this ! i say this ,the master say this etc...........realy sword person say this !!!!!!!!!!!!i think you see to much movie !!!!!see a real fight !
Daniel Stark thats your opinion. I can see why some would be turned off by the cheesiness of late 80s action. But for most its a movie that is a great one to enjoy.
I love that while he analyzes how realistic each scene is, he also acknowledges the narrative and stylistic role of the scenes. I'd love to hear his opinion of the Michal Wolodyjowski scenes in "The Deluge" and "With Fire and Sword." Those are my favorite sword fight scenes.
I was thinking the same thing. I noticed he gives quite low ratings to "The Witcher" and "Die Another Day" then goes on to say the fencing in "The Princess Bride" is irrelevant to the story telling. Compare to Jill Bearup's videos where she gleefully dissects how all three of those fights are excellent at storytelling and characterization. I'd actually love to see her and Rawlings discuss all three together.
@@matthollywood8060 i'd say it's because in TPB it's about the conversation between the combatants, rather than the combat that matters. in TW & DAD, there's no real conversation at all - it's purely a fight scene, so it can only be measured as a fight scene.
@@MZB80 Yes and no. There is little to no talking in the TW and DAD scenes, but they are conversations in a way. There is storytelling in all three fights, and the action reveals much about the characters involved.
I don't know if he has enough knowledge as he rates sword fights and in "The Deluge" and "With Fire and Sword" they fight with sabers and there are differences between fighting those weapons. But it would be great if someone will analyze sabre fights in films. There's another good film called "Zrodzeni do szabli" ("Born to saber") that could also be taken into analysis. Unfortunately western world likes swords not sabers :/
So let me put you at ease - none of these had any good swordfighting, but also nothing particularly bad in LOTR, considering the film standard - middle of the pack quality, so I guess not that interesting to discuss.
@@mikolajwitkowski8093 Aragorn literally reflected a knife with his sword wich wasn't planned, one of the most badass, accidental-swordsmanship moments ever
The way Geralt moves is a bit more about how Sapkowski described his fighting technique differs from regular people. The keyword: pirouette Sapkowski did a great job at explaining Geralt's advantage being how he moves, and how inhumanely quick he can be whilst doing it. He usually makes half spins that just suprises his opponents, gets through multiple enemies with his extreme agility, getting then in their backs or flanks
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"He's angry. He's always explicit. Everything is these wide powerful slashes that aren't necessarily good for defense." this man here explaining why the sith always lose fights
Bruh Sith are gods compared to Jedi when lightsaber fighting cause they don’t really sit around meditating; All they do is train. Maybe some big boy monster Sith but even then they get like 4+ vs 1
@@carlosvilla4672 Tell that to the movies.
@@carlosvilla4672 i get your point, but not all jedis are like that. there are 3 types of jedis, with the exception of the grey jedis. jedi guardians ( anakin and obi-wan ) are the ones who focus on martial skills and lightsaber forms more than other aspects. take mace windu as the prime example
wasnt Rey the one who was in such a bad position that they had to edit out one of the weapons of her opponent for him not to just instantly kill her? xD
Tell that to Qui-Gon after sith apprentice stabs him....to death
“If someone has got their back to you and you have a spear, do stab them in the back of the leg.”
Important life advice, thanks Dave!
Lmao
Why only 2 reply
was walking down the sidewalk with a spear, now i’m being charged for murder
yeah except that one guy was killed immediately after, exactly because he stabbed Ned lol
Ned Stark diliked disliked this.
*man is brutally stabbed through the eye*
“That’s quite nice”
@Carl Karlsson Hultström VUXK Ever seen a dead octopus?
I agree - that was quite nice.
@Tom the Stone I’ve seen too much hentai to know where this is going...
Martial arts truly are a thing of beauty
Jaime agrees
They wouldnt have to resort to swordfighting had they built ditches first.
Build ditches.
Dr. Roel would be proud
Where is your ditch?
Nothing but ditches here
No ditches?
@@athrephix7211 -Megamind
*is a swordmaster that looks like a swordmaster in an RPG*
Kudos.
Yeah,he resembles some character that I can't remember
fat swordmaster.. he's funny tho
@@Deimonos85 A fit swordsmaster can fight for a long time. A fat one doesn't have to.
Xam271 from kingdom come deliverance
I mean, he does need to take into account when it's a fictional and mythical world haha
Geralt is a goddamn mutant
And while thrones never did a good job capturing how good Jaime is at swordplay, making Ned hold up to him with Ice was just frustrating haha
You know this guy is legit when he brings his own swords on set like a kid bringing toys to a show and tell class.
He calls a bihander a longsword in the beginning 😑
@@ExtremeDeathman But longsword is a big double edged sword that is supposed to be held by two hands, isn't it?
@@ExtremeDeathman he calls it a longsword because the swords in the scene were longswords and he was referring to them, just using his bihander as an example to show where the different parts of the blade were
I remember bringing a Glock 19 for show and tell. Some of my classmates got injured and some collapsed on the floor
@@oskarosula5717 thats a bit extreme init
I wish they’d let him pick his favorite, most realistic sword scene ever and explain what makes it good. I kept expecting one that he just said: “this is the good one I was waiting for.”
hoped so too. but i think the best ones are the fights with no spinning. it's just crazy how often they turn their backs wide open to the enemy. makes every fight unreal
Definetly please do it
I wish anime swordfight included
He'll laugh in joy 😂
@@riorevelino6431 Or watch Maria, the Virgin Witch and be thoroughly impressed.
If you want to know a very good European fight scene in fiction when it comes to actual martial play (there are still fantasy magic elements) ironically comes from an animated feature known as Maria the virgin. To prove my point I do have a video link that I can edit in if someone would like to see it.
Princess Bride: "This, in case you didn't know it, is the best fight scene ever, in any film, EVER."
Wasn't sure how I felt about him, but now he's one of my favorites.
Total bullshit. The sword fight between Basil Rathbone (a sword master as well as an actor, best known for his portrayal of Sherlock Holmes) and Tyrone Power, from the 1940 film 'The Mark of Zorro', knocks the Princess Bride into a cocked hat. Sword fighting has been in films from the silent days, yet this guy just concentrates on relatively recent films, so it's hardly a good assessment of sword-fighting in films.
@@joeblack8915 Both fights pale against the real best fight in any movie, ever: _Murder Ahoy (1964)_
@@joeblack8915well aren’t you so fun
@@notfeedynotlazy I have to make you watch a fight scene from polish movie Potop and rethink 😅
@@dorotaurbanska6654 I happen to be personally a fan of Daniel Olbrychski, (and incidentally also of his grandson Anton, whose work both as actor and as swordsman you can check here in YT), but you certainly can not compare his fighting skills, great as it was, to that of the great Dame Margaret Taylor Rutherford, DBE. Do check the fight at the end of her movie! 😀
(OK, enough. For those who miss the jokes: _Potop_ (a.k.a. The Deludge) is a well-known Polish historical drama that includes one of the best saber duels of cinema history, done by two actors who also were great fencers. It's legendary because, well, incredible fencers. And Murder Ahoy is a Miss Marple mistery film whose ending includes an humorous saber duel betwen the villain and Miss Marple, played by a venerable actress that in her 70-odd years had never handled a sword. It's _also_ legendary because, well, 70-old actress who insisted in _learning fencing to do the scene herself_ (as it could be her last chance to do so) and put a surprisingly convincing fight, putting her weight in the parries and doing a better job than many a well-known "action" actor).
The mustache is a thing of beauty and therefore adds +10 to his Persuasion.
So does the sword...
@@dakotajohnson4229 Anyone can buy a sword. Only a true master may grow a mustache like that.
@@dakotajohnson4229 What if......the sword had a mustache?
Steven Ross what if the swordsman’s sword’s moustache had a moustache?
@@anthonymckenzie579 stop.... Please
Me: Damn this looks amazing
Dave: Disgusting
Me: Disgusting
Sooo true xD
The thing is, fights in movies are not made (usually) to look realistic, but to look cool.
Now again, you have the GoT/Witcher/Star Wars kind (which usually do look cool), and then you've got, uuuuuh...that 007 one. Which is just eww.
10/10 comment, laughed irl
@@IshgarSeth While I agree, that movies shouldn't necessarily look realistic over looking cool, it is really cool to see proper swordsmanship. There is this hardly known old polish produced movie where they use actual polish sabersmen, and it has some really impressive scenes. Can't remember the name, but there's an anecdote of how two of the actors were fighting with real swords and got so zealous during the production, that one of the actors almost got a proper strike to (either something vital or his face can't remember). I've seen another youtuber cover it.
Seth Richards Now i see...
Guy gets stabbed right in the eye
"Now this is quite nice"
And he says it so calmly, like he just took a sip of tea or something XD
@@alastairvanmaren5243 It's because it's a breath of fresh air. There's no flynning of the blade, no minute of bad choreography, it's just 'block' then 'stab' then 'dead.' Generally speaking that is exactly what you want to do. Most sword fights only lasted a few seconds to maybe a half a minute at the absolute most, where someone made a mistake get badly wounded, bled out enough to become weakened by it then were overpowered and killed. Sword fights were never graceful, they were quick and brutal. Some techniques might have been graceful but that was a side effect of efficiency.
XD XD XD
@@ComotoseOnAnime How entertaining is that though?
@@knockoffmjolnir4864 I don't know about you but the Hound hacking and stabbing his way through a line of men in a brutally efficient and simple method is loads entertaining.
You called the sword fighting scene in The Princess Bride the greatest of all time..... yes, it was!
Potop
You should try some older Polish movies - there you can see polish sabre in action 😉
no the ones in the dualist are
Guy without Mustache: "I am an expert"
Me:"Well I don't know about that"
This Guy:"I am an expert"
Me:"You I trust"
Yes
If he wasn't an expert with sharp blades, it would have been removed for him ... clearly, his expertise is writ large in the moustache!
it’s the moustache
Joe from Family Guy one Asians with and without facial hair
Well, as someone who knows how to effectively hold and use a sword myself, I can tell from the short video clips and his explanations that Dave knows exactly what he is talking about.
Him: "Best fight scene in the history of film ever"
Also him: "I'll give that a 7"
I love this guy.
Kemény a pali xd
Also let's not forget that bojler eladó
Well, I wouldn't be surprised if no film ever presents a 10/10. Still, would love a comment on the Tower of Joy scene from GoT.
When I see this guy I almost can see a dialogue chance:
Sell
Buy
Craft
Train
Mission
Gwent
@@idontgetit3245
Talk
Quest
Gwent
Nah this guy would be asking me what part of Tamarel am I from what's my race class and gender.
Dave Rawlings' mustache does make him look like a quirky shopkeeper in a video game.
Wizard 101?
I love that he called the princess bride fight the best fight scene ever 😁😂
And so rightly so!
"Henry Cavill being very good physically"
Yes... yes he is.
LOL I'm a straight guy and even I'm like "Damn....That's a good looking dude!"
he holds the sword that he throws into the other dude by the blade and not the hilt but when they pan to his hand there's no cut
@@joeshid9166 That is because swords are much more like scissors than they are like lightsabers, you can hold a scissor by the sharp side and move it without cutting yourself as long as there is no force pushing the blade into you. There is a fighting technique called half-swording which is built around this concept in case you want to learn more.
No shit, as a superman should be...
@@joeshid9166 That's because you can hold a blade with your hand and not be cut. The technique is called "Half Swording." Knights in medieval times would use half-swording to grip their sword by the blade, and then use the pommel to crush their opponent's helmet, if they found they could not breach the armor in any way.Half swording was used with a variety of other moves as well.
His mustache just makes me want to trust him with my life in the heat of battle.
KING DRAGON SENDS HIS REGARDS
Wrong
I fount you for the like tenth time
Fairy tail sucks
RIGHT!
This man is exactly what i'd imagine an expert swordsman looks like
ikr
A hipster?
@@stevenwebel4876 a hipster have beard, this guy have a mustache straight outta 18s england
He's not an expert hes a sad nerd who got a good job given to him. Real experts are professional combatants who fight in leagues and historian combatants.
The minute he said the princess bride was a good fight scene done it for the real ones. Hes an idiot
@@SH19922x MF have you even heard of HEMA? London longsword Academy is a rather prestigious school, you think you get to teach longsword for a living without participating in any tournament fights or with no historical combat experience?
Its really important to remember that in the Gladiator fight, Maximus is fighting after having a small knife or spike stabbed into his lower left abdomen. With that in mind any clumsiness is easily understood and justified (i.e. actually excellent choreography and acting)
I'm glad you mentioned this. I thought that when watching this video, as the expert (rightly) mentions other things to do with the off-hand, but Maximus has limited use of that hand due to his wound. He's fighting semi-one-handed and while suffering from increasing amounts of blood loss.
@@JudoGeoff Yep. If this video covered more of the dual it's evident that he's seriously injured from the start but still trying to use his off hand when opportunity presents itself (mostly in the hand-to-hand at the end).
i was thinking the same
All the serious scenes: trash
Princess Bride: brilliant
This man knows what he’s talking about.
Can’t argue with anything this comment has to say
I can't believe he gave the Gladiator scene a 6/10
To be fair, the choreographer for Princess Bride - Bob Anderson - was a well renowned fencer himself. Adds a lot more realism when you have someone who knows what they're doing training people. And the actors spent all their spare time practicing for the fight.
He gave 7 too for 47 Ronin too
Arya uses the stabbing blade very wrong, but the critic doesn't seem to mind
Give him and his mustache a round of applause.
Don't forget to bow when you meet him.
Any lack of respect will elicit a slap from his glove, and a challenge...
@John I mean. I never found GOT all that amusing to begin with so... different strokes for different folks.
He looks cool.
Honestly? i'm too focused on his moustache, instead of what's being talked about...
Look, its all fine, but if you rate the witcher, a series about a magic wielding mutant, about anything, you missed the point. Seriously. Hes the witcher. Thats saying to superman: You are not real, while you get melted by his eyelaser. We have magic swords here, my man!
I love when the professionals get so excited about their profession. It makes me so happy!
@Amr Rihawi What's your profession?
SPARTANS, WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION?!
Plus he didn’t compare fantasy to his world or style. The masters usually get sucked into that and you just have the audience going “your talking about the mountain and Jedi here. their not normal people and if they were real they would still kill you in two seconds”
You can't be a sword master in the 21st century. It's a hobby.
@Scott Humphreys
He's getting paid for it. It's a job.
I love how he makes a whole speech at the end about understanding and appreciating when things are done for theatrical or narrative effect and rates them highly, and then gives Zorro a 1/10 for that exact thing
Because he's rating them on realism. He can acknowledge the role of storytelling, but still say something isn't realistic.
He was saying he understands them from a story point of view, or entertainment value, but he's still rating off realism. He understands that movies are going to have impractical, flashy, or downright impossible moves, but his ratings are specifically based on realistic accuracy. For example the black knight from Monty Python is funny, and I'm sure he could see humor in it, but were he to rate it here he would probably give it a 1 or even a 0.
@@John_Smith. "because he's rating them on realism" Then why did he give TLJ throne scene a 5? He talked about how awful the fight was from a realistic standpoint and how it's mainly meant to convey emotions, and then he gives it a 5. The entire fight scene was theatrics, it was no better than the Kill Bill one, but it's rated higher for some reason?
@@GarrulousHerald he's pro. How you see and how he says are very distinct
One also has to admit that the humor being portrayed in that particular Zorro scene has not aged well. And I remember liking the film, but it wasn't something I watched more than once.
His lack of hair means he's strong,
His mustache signifies trustworthiness.
I don't even know him, but I trust him with my life.
I swear to god you are on every video’s comment section ever👏
He sacrificed hair for power
Whitebeard in real life.
His mustache either signifies absolute trustworthiness, or total villainy. You won't know which it is until you meet him.
@@freddixon9213 I know.
Dave: "Henry Cavil is quite good physically"
Everyone:"Right on"
You might even say he's a man of steel.
I would go gay for that man
@@HybridSpektar I would go straight
@@Samson16436 Im sure
Hmmmmmmm
His mustache alone has 8 confirmed kills.
Edit: Holy crap guys, thanks for all the likes!
It is a technique passed down the Armstrong family for generations
@@aestheticswim3397 Marry me, Major Armstrong
Lol.
112 unconfirmed
I am sure he is that guy from full metal alchemist
Noooo not the Blaviken fight! I love the Blaviken fight! I guess it all depends on perspective though, it's not particularly accurate but from a stunt perspective? It's near perfect. It tells the story, everything Geralt does physically in that scene has a purpose. I think it was primarily to show just how inhuman and powerful Witchers are, even against trained fighters. I just really like that fight scene, but to each their own!
Couldn't agree more, you have to take into consideration that witchers are super human in judging the fight I think. He might be backhanding it because he was playing with them.
absolutely unrealistic in every way that’s for sure.
@@sirspaceface I wouldn't say he was playing with them, but rather "go easy", even though he murdered them all.
The hard part about putting a “realistic” critique on any sword fight in The Witcher is that Gerald isn’t a normal person. He is a Witcher and he has superhuman strength and dexterity. He can do things like hold his sword reverse grip. Because he’s not afraid to lose to normal peopl.
Oh that show is terrible. In the books it's a totally different scene, much more enjoyable. The show distorted every ounce of information taken from the books(and that's not many given they changed most of the story). Only good thing is Cavill. And Jaskier's songs.
"The horses looked realistic, we better give it at least a 1." This just made my day!
It reminds me my comment about really bad comedy: "I think donkey was good. He was playing donkey very realistic."
I was about to type that and then I saw your comment :D
One star for the horses being actually alive.
Something you can’t quite say for monty python
"Let's give it a one"*
The guy: looks formidable and fearsome as all hell
When he talks: incredibly polite, eloquent speech.
He must be an actual formidable and fearsome opponent when it comes to fight in any way.
I bet he is gay the way he moves his hands. And there are lots of gay people whom have the same rugged look like him. His voice is smooth and he seems to be nice guy.
@@Kryosleep True. The Dao De Jing does say "He who excels in fighting is never quick to anger."
Talk softly and carry a big sword.
Its wonderful. And the moustache, perfect.
Swordmaster: This is not a good way to fight.
Geralt: Hmmmm
Yeah, I think Geralt used the "wrong" grip as a big FU to the guys he was fighting :)
No need to hold the sword properly when he's a superhuman fighting machine.
@Duende2211 do you really think that when making the series, the producers really designed a sword technique for super humans? It looks like that because it's flashy and looks better for the camera, gets more views. Don't make excuses for not being realistic, just accept for what it is and enjoy the show.
Duende2211 You and everyone who liked your comment are kinda dumb ngl.
HaremGodRance He specifically said that this was the worst fight scene. Clearly didnt say anything about Geralt or the show being bad with sword fighting. Being superhuman doesn’t mean there aren’t more effective types of combat. HaremGodRance.
I really, really, wish that Dave Rawlings would do a review on more 'The Witcher' scenes. He opens by saying this is Geralts worst fight scene in the series... I would like to see a rating of some of the better ones. And more importantly comments and analysis
actually would love him to give this scene a second look.. yes, reverse grip is silly and shouldn't be used in a proper sword fight..BUT a longsword like that needs space, while they are fighting in an alleyway. Hitting your sword into the walls is probably one effective way of not making it out of the fight alive. Dave Rawlings knows what he's doing, and he might well think reverse grip is still a bad idea under constrained conditions, BUT his critique doesn't go into that at all..
This needs a part two. So many swordfights left to take a stab at.
*sigh*
I see what you did there lmao
Puns are the autistic cousins of comedy
That pun needs a cutting remark but I think you're so far gone down the road of bad puns there's no point :-P
Get out!
“...Henry Cavill being very good physically”
Boy, same.
hell yeah i was like "yes absolutely"
lmao. Agree.
Total Crumpet. Who cares how he holds his sword.....
Well.......ahem..preferrably in my direction.
I really like how Dave is able to separate and appreciate artistic fighting for what it is. Not necessary realistic, but emotional and as a storytelling tool. And I can't quite pinpoint it, but I get the impression that Dave is a really great teacher! Way to go!
He is!
Considering the fact that I’m pretty sure he has his own Hema club and his company makes most of the basic training swords used across even just America, yeah I would assume he’s a good teacher as well
I think he is just a star wars fan🤷🏼♂️
Love that he understands the nuance of the Princess Bride's fencing and about the narrative
10:05 - Dude gets stabbed through the eye
Dave: "That's quite nice."
I'm glad he liked that, I always wondered if it was "normal" for people to pull short blades during sword fights, like is it an expected move, a frequently used move etc And that moment was a great example of great a fighter he was
Posh move
@@mssonoma1 From that move I understood what kind of people Lannisters are. Effective with a sword (fighting and commanding troops), but also with a backstab plan (or an unexpected eye stab) in there sleeve.
i do it constantly in Blade and Sorcery. It's really nice, especially when my longsword ends up in a weird spot.
@@mssonoma1 Having a long sword and a short sword or dagger is more common than two long swords as shown in a lot of his clips. It's a useful sidearm in case you lose your main and you see a lot of Samurai carry both a long and short katana as standard equipment. I would say it's always available as an option but really depends on the situation. I wouldn't say normal since it requires a lot of distance to close into and it requires specific positioning to really do it without any awkward movements to reach the offhand and quickly pull it out to stab the other guy.
He absolutely won me over when he pointed out that the Princess Bride fight was a narrative and not a real fight. I was also surprised to see the rating for it.
I trained with the epee (basically a sport rapier) for 10 years and won a state championship, I can co-sign the fact the parts in between the dialogue and environmental stuff actually has quality bladework
All the best fight scenes are about the story and the characters more than the fight itself. Anyone can ask an expert to choreograph a fancy 10 minute duel, but great filmmakers realise it's another opportunity to tell us about how a character thinks and what their relationship with the other characters is.
Take Star Wars for example. The Anakin vs Obi-Wan fight is long and complex, and spectacular... but the most interesting parts are when they're sizing each other up at the start, and the end when Obi Wan is expressing his grief as Anakin burns. You could cut most of the middle part out and it would be the same scene.
Compare that to Luke and Vader in RotJ, where every moment is dripping with character drama.
He is clearly a fan of the movie as well lol
It's amazing how he understands the theatricality of the scene, apart from the technical stuff. Movies are made in order to engage emotionally with the audience.
YEAAAAAH saaamee. I personally hold that scene so dear to my heart. storytelling wise i love it.
When he says The Princess Bride’s duel is the best fight in cinema.
“Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well”
They should have shown him 'The deluge' that fight seen is awesome and might be better
I would have liked this comment, but I won't be the a.Hole who ruins its 69 likes.
I subbed just because of this.
Joe Hawkins I see you are an informed man. Skallagrim introduce you?
Knight of Hope, Duel have much better fights!
I LOVE the fact that he critiques the technique, but allows for it to still be entertaining.
He has a moustache therefore I trust his opinion on the subject.
I have a feeling this guy is the evil twin...
Don't forget that he's also bald. If he wasn't bald then he'd be an evil mad scientist from the 1860s
That's a beaut of a tash
Yup same
6:30 he saud a long sword is more dexterous and fast than rapier......hes full of sh*t
this guy: “you can move a longsword much more quickly and much more dexterously than you can a rapier”
the entire dark souls saga: *no*
That's generally how video games work. In reality, however, when a one-handed sword and a two-handed sword are of similar length and mass, the two-handed swords moves more quickly because you're applying twice as much force.
@@ArmorFrogEntertainment however the reach and lighter weight of the rapier gives it a huge advantage
@@MrHanderson91 The weight Isn't hugely different (1kg vs 1.5kg), but you have a point with the reach. Rapiers have advantages (especially rapier+dagger/buckler), but speed isn't it.
@@nature337 I feel the problem is people mistake a rapier for a foil. Having held both, I can attest that the rapier is a lot heavier than it looks.
@@ArmorFrogEntertainment the difference isn't the force, it's the leverage. With a one-handed sword, you've only got one hand to control both the fulcrum and the tip of the blade. Even with a very well-balanced weapon, you are very limited in where you can move your blade and how quickly you can place it there.
A two-handed blade literally adds another dimension of control, by giving you a forward hand to control the fulcrum or balance of the blade, and a back hand to control the tip. It completely opens up new possibilities for moving with the blade, new angles to attack from, etc.
The trade-off is that two handed weapons have less effective range than a one-handed weapon of the same length, because you need to keep your body relatively square to keep both hands on the grip. A one-handed blade user can lunge and extend their entire arm with an attack, easily giving them two or three times as much range as someone keeping both hands on their sword. Hence why most one-handed blades are specialized for stabbing, to take advantage of their biggest strength.
People keep saying he looks like a sword fighter should look but really he looks like a boxer from the 20s
It's the moustache
Or like the 1900s weightlifter with the tiger/leopard suit :D
He kinda looks like Bob Fitzsimmons who competed as a boxer from 1880's to 1914.
Charles Bronson
from the 20s - so he looks like a modern day boxer then ?
I keep watching this video over time and it just occurred to me. This man REALLY looks like a Sword Master. Idc what world, timeline, era, or fantasy setting you choose, you're going to see a Sword Master that looks like him. You can really tell he's become the epitome of his craft.
Yes, he looks like a modern day (real world) Syrio Forell!
You can tell this guy's a teacher by how he critiques with honesty, but also reassures and finds positives.
That can be applied to 1-H, 2-H combats with swords. Otherwise he makes statements which are out of his field. Also it is seen, that he rates subjectively.
He's also aware that he's nitpicking; they could go for realistic non-stylized fighting, but only a small enthusiastic niche would be excited while the rest will miss the dynamics and tension (because they have no clue what's going on.) Not to mention that in some cases the stylizing adds to the story, one of the staples of movie making is 'show don't tell', it's harder to show someone's rage and erratic behavior using nuanced real sword fighting techniques than it is to just have him wail on his opponent like a barbarian with big movements.
There's still a place for realistic fighting in movies that claim historical accuracy.
positive points such as the horse being realistic
@@deltav864 If the character was presented as expertly trained in the communication of subtle clues to portray their intent, then this would be good. But I have been in real sword fights and dagger fights, with people both forcing a situation into existence along with the aggressor deciding all will perceive things their way. Instead of the nature of Full Formal Dueling, with all people being assumed to have the worst intent by every possible person.
All this is followed with Full Formal Duels, having officials having their reputation drug through the mud. So we could start a movie with two men in drag, beating each other with verified as new, strong polymer versions of Women's Hairbrushes, then build a movie around the fall-out around the duel. Along with the possibility of two drag-kings punching things out, in a stereotyped masculine fashion, to create high profile personal injury. With all decaying until, no knowledge of what caused the conflict will happen.
When an official comes to a full formal dueling decision, just ask how long will their professional reputation last. If a formal duel, the official determines the win or lose status; as a result, judgment call not effectiveness determines the win. Because the in-group status is formal dueling, with small groups and individuals. While informal duels do not need a stated reason, with that violence, happens at whatever skill level each participant has.
As for informal-duels, the violence happens as shown in the movies with some full formal duels, with massive controversy happens. The fun stuff that most people will find to be boring will be both practice fights known as full informal duels for individuals and small groups. Along with plenty of formal duels, involving items such as walk-along paper airplane capture techniques.
Just remember that the simulation is not the reality, especially when the simulation is actively twisted things to make it unrealistic. Then bureaucrats will point to the inaccurate by active inaccuracy preservation example, with calling this the same as real. To win around 19 out of 20 situations, just do not panic with this involving grinding into the anatomy of the pattern, so by habit, something functional will happen, even if the mind shuts down; as a result, puncturing the face can lead to a psychological stop. So losing a drop of blood, can turn the face pale and make the entire body shake, then the bulk of actions will be By-Rote-Performed.
@@TheVasek25 Not just with swords, learning a sword makes you also learn how to fight with a spear, with exception of spear specific things. Think of spears and swords less like pianos and guitars, and more like eletric guitars and acoustic guitars. Verrrry similar, with some specific things changed.
He was surprisingly positive to me. Like, "Yes, this is terrible and they'd both die in moments, but here are a couple things they're kind of doing right."
That's maturity.
I like he could seperate the narrative purpose from the quality of the swordplay.
Most movie fights aren't really about the fighting. Even in something like John Wick the fights are there to tell a story and entertain us, and in the case of John Wick they certainly accomplished those two :)
@@yamchadragonball6983 John Wick movies are for the fights and any martial artist or firearms nut would tell you it's authentic. You basically said bs that you came up with on the top of your head... or the bottom of your a$$.
@@paulwhite9242 Except he didn't do that for The Witcher. Geralt fights the way he does because he's a witcher, our swordplay is irrelevant to someone who's so much faster and stronger
@@JustYTWatching It kinda does, since we still see he's of flesh and blood. Why try and be ineffecient with swordplay when you could be a lot more effecient, especially with better than the usual person's strength and speed.
Last Jedi: "First miracle of this fight is them managing not to kill each other."
Well said.
They killed the franchise.
Some directors expect actors to be actual super heros... wasn't the actors that destroyed star wars for the veteran fans...
@@andysmith5464 definitely. The actors and others did their best.
Blame lies with JJ RJ and KK.
Agree with both of you, 1000%. Daisey and Adam...the entire cast...were all very capable, talented actors and actresses. It sucks seeing the potential go to waste.
@@theMindwalker agreed. Disney was supposed to bring balance to the force. They were supposed to save the franchise, not destroy it
/Makes Obiwan's pained and betrayed face
I gotta say.... That was one of the best and most detailed reviews of anything i've ever seen. I mean, this guy surely knows what he's talking about, you gotta appreciate that !
Thank you Insider, for hiring a guy that actually a HEMA practitioner and not just some stage fighting "expert". This particular reaction series with the experts in their field is a mighty good one.
I'm generally pretty forgiving with the Witcher specifically, because especially in the games, there was a real effort to make NPCs fight in a historically accurate manner. Geralt is a superhuman and his fighting style is designed to fight monsters. He outclasses any regular human by a massive metric. He can afford to use techniques that would get normal swordsmen killed. In the Blaviken fight in particular, I always saw it as Geralt having complete contempt for the men he's fighting. He's basically saying, "I'm so far beyond your level that I can beat you all easily while backhanding my sword."
Doesn't make it any better
@@KingNerdius Makes it better in the context of the story
@@sorendaniels754 well he isn't judging the story
@@KingNerdius You're not focusing on the right things.
@@lordvoldemort1561 like?
“The horses were very realistic let’s give it a one.”
they did my boi zoro dirty lol
There is a significance with the fencing scene in Princess Bride which very few people know:
That scene is one of the main reasons why Anders Linnard, a very influential and early person in the HEMA community, started fencing many years ago. I claim that the HEMA community would have been what it is today without this scene.
What is hema?
@@muhammadeisa1459 Historical European Martial Arts.
Dave Rawlings: "spinning becomes important"
*Anakin has entered the chat*
This is a video. People can't "enter the chat" since it is pre recorder. Not live.
@@oblivioustothejoke7261 ... just... You know what, I'm not even gonna try... Your username says it best...
@@oblivioustothejoke7261 Lorn Adornable, is that you?
High ground in my opinion is the most important factor.
Spinning?
"It's treason then..."
While we were off enjoying Game of Thrones, this man was studying the blade.
Nice!!!!
Enjoying?? That show was trash!!!
@@manumaster1990 depends, are you counting the last 2 or 3 seasons? most of us forget they exist
@@ultratronger yes, i take the show to be judge as a whole package.
@@ultratronger wait hold up? 2-3 seasons? are you telling me the battle of the bastards wasn’t perfect? the whole build up of season 7 (excluding “beyond the wall”) wasn’t good?
This guy expresses a whole psychology of swordfighting technique that I hadn't heard before. It sounds pretty much anyone who hasn't actually trained in swordfighting is more clueless about the subject than they realize because they don't know just how much they don't know.
I also really like that a guy can be a professional sword master and critique technique in cinema, but can still enjoy a good fight scene even if it's not realistic.
Welcome to the world of HEMA (Historical European Martial Arts).
It's called the Dunning-Kruger effect. The more you know, they less you know that you know.
Of the 4 levels of knowledge (knowing and awareness) we considered the beginner (dont know, and is not aware of it) quite high as he may do spontaneous effective stuff, where we 'knew' better.
Plus he respects his limits. He's talking about _Witcher_ serie, but describing fight against humans. He isn't discussing on how to fight damn monsters because actually humanity have very limited experience about it and not much chance to train. There were some hunting with spears in history and I had unarmed fight with angry dog, but we don't have kikimoras etc. around. We can only create theories.
@@TheOnlyToblin Or rather, the less you know, the less you know how little you actually know and the more you think you know.
"And slag them off hideously-" I NEED MORE OF THIS GUY, I'M IN TEARS
Henry Cavill is a category on its own: confirmed
Agreed 100%
Yeah I 100% support his rating on Henry cavill making the whole thing better
His mustache is capable of wielding a small sword in combat.
Lmfaooi
Sounds like a One Piece character 😂
It's his secret main-gauche
"The horses were very realistic! Let's give it a 1."
I love this dude.
@Game on 17:38
I remember in practice always hearing about a kill timer. Essentially when two fighters enter each other's weapon range, there is a kill timer. It's up to you as the fighter to dictate how long that timer is and whether or not you'd pull out of that range to reassess the situation.
Fun fact about the princess bride scene, Bonetti’s defense is an Italian fencing form developed by Rocco Benetti, hence the retort of “I thought it fitting considering the rocky terrain” a little funny joke there 😉
Thanks for the comment very interesting
Just solidifies the genius hidden jokes in the movie.
Capo Ferro and Agrippa were also real swordmasters referenced
Me: that looks pretty good. Him: it’s terrible. Me: yes.
Hahaa yes
Tbf he's not rating the overall quality of the scene, just realism.
ye hes just rsting the actualy sword fight
LOL
you are what is wrong with the world , have your own oppinion . be a man ....
As someone who has trained and fought with Dave Rawlings, it was a surprise to see him here. He's a fantastic instructor and a great swordsman!
@@blacktimhoward4322 If I understand, a Longsword is more dexterous due to being two-handed, allowing you to handle it better than a Rapier, which can sometimes be just as heavy but with one hand only.
However, a Rapier's blade is still controllable, since most of the weight is on the decorated hilt, allowing you to constantly "poke" them with it.
I'll add a Greatsword (Either a Zweihander or a Claymore) for Fantasy Class comparison.
Longsword = Fighter
Rapier = Rogue
Greatsword = Barbarian
@@fenorlex1126 do you know how to counter a feint hit?
@@yenxin7407 I am still trying to piece things together at this point. I know a feint as a trick that forces the opponent to guard at that "attack", leaving an opening for you to exploit. And as of right now, no I do not properly know how to counter a feint yet.
Certain weapons such as flails can't be feinted, due to their nature.
Edits: I am quite familiar with the HEMA thing, but hadn't personally learned about it proper.
Please tell him that he forgot The Highlander franchise. Thank you. Everything else was insightful, though.
@@fenorlex1126
Having handled actual original historic rapiers (and swung them around a bit), they really feel a lot clumsier then longswords, they really do. The early ones are nearly as heavy as a longsword, and way heavier then one handed swords from the early medieval period (most viking era swords for example, are about 800g to 1kg.) The later ones are incredibly long, like in the 1.3+m range (yes, late rapiers are as long as claymore type swords, but one handed), and while they do have a pommel, it's so close to the hand that it doesn't help all that much with balance.
Rapiers are very top heavy, especially the late ones are really meant as stabbing weapons, which explains the constant increase in lenght over the years.
Once everyone noticed that, with rapiers being only really used in duels, is really doesn't matter how effective the sword is, as long as everyone has the same kind of sword, smallswords became a thing.
A rapier in a scabbard is also very clumsy, there is a lot of basket hilt sticking out in front, and that long blade needs to be both high, and at a significant angle, to not constantly touch the ground.
I'd love to hear your opinion on 2 more Game of Thrones fights: Tower of Joy and Oberyn Martel vs The Mountain (interesting duel spear vs sword).
Japanese sword master rating movies: "nice... someone would have to be.. quite skilled to do that.."
English sword master rating movies: "disgusting."
It seems like there's a huge difference in critique between a Japanese reviewer and a English one
@@romanlane6189 Japan is really big on being polite to the point of farce. England will be polite, but realistic. XD
@@Arkainum lol indeed, i forgot where it is now, probably Kyoto, but there's this region where it is known that people talk way too politely, but they actually mean the oppose, like saying "Would you like some tea" when they actually are starting to get annoyed with your presence and would like you to leave, so they say that expecting you to refuse it and leave hahahah i forgot where it is and the name they give it but it added even more layers of complexity to japanese (as if it even needs)
Ok weebs
@@HadirUntukAnda its true watch the japanese samurai rating movies/anime video
"This is bad, this is terrible." Is he just talking about the fight or the last couple seasons of GoT?
Yes.
Yes.
@RedKingPresents Seasons 7&8 were awful
@@Salatea Ah the beautiful inclusive or
Y not both?
We all know that “Henry cavil is good, physically”
No no no no. Only females are allowed to say that. I do think he's good as a swordsman. Should have been in GoT.
@@Elcherino123 Can confirm, as a man, Henry Cavil's physicality surpasses gender. 10/10
And seems like a genuinely nice dude.
@@adumbyelloh2563 Can also confirm as a straight man, Henry is indeed a 10/10
So glad to see the Princess Bride getting the love it deserves 🥰
Why does he look like that type of person that sells weapons and armour while saying, *looking to protect yourself, or deal some damage?*
my weapons are too strong for you, traveller
GOT THE FINEST STEEL
"They're masterworks all, cant go wrong"
Some may call this junk,me?i call them treasures
Hes a blacksmith after all
For the PrincessBride fight, they actually trained under two of the best fencers and teachers in the era, training every day even between scenes because the teachers knew that nobody would care, but they wanted to show people that actually knew what they were doing that it would respect and show they actually tried. This is mainly shown in the footwork. Wesley even had to train with a broken toe.
*Cary Elwes
That explains a lot. I coached fencing for many years and someone told me they learned it all in two months, which I doubted because some of that bladework is far beyond the typical two month student.
""The Princess Bride" is the best fight scene ever in any film ever" like I needed a video to know that
It's always good to have him confirm his credentials by saying it, though
Yes.
"best fight scene ever in any film ever" Duel from THE DELUGE (Potop)... old Japanese movies where they are showing how real sword fight looks like(for example duel from Seven Samurai)... British movie The Duellists, not to mention if its just "fight scene" then it can be also with guns or empty hands and then you have so many good fight scenes to choice from...
*cough* The Deluge
Not going to lie, I was terrified he was going to tear that scene to pieces.
Tears into every scene critically.
Smiling he gives Yoda a pass.
The internet approves.
Who can say how a 2' alien frog creature with wizard powers would fight?
@@nickalimonos3588 😂 makes sense
@@nickalimonos3588 depends whether the 2 ft wizard frog with surprisingly big ears has a lightsabre.
He's so critical that he'd probably rate himself a 6/10 after killing 8 people because ''well, I probably should've...''
Hahah i like that
Yes, he should have.
That's critical? Child, please!
"There is always room for improvement" mentality... I love it cuz same lmaooo
"Oh no, I accidentally krumpau'd that russian guy instead of performing a perfect Zornhau! Silly me!"
I love watching Jill Bearup who is a stage fighter and analyzes movie fights from a story telling prospective. As in how much does this fight tell us about the characters fighting? But seeing a practical fight prospective from an expert is very cool too.
The tattoos and mustache give him +20 Str, and +10 Agi. You got to be fast when you’re hopping out of peoples wives windows.
He doesn’t have to if he can challenge them to a duel and win every time
Ah Lambert..
@@ronex8095 "He doesn't have to move, he knows the other man is going to attack, so he deflects the strike, controls the sword, and stabs him through the eye."
lul
this is more like dandelion
*Princess Bride appears*
“This is the best fighting scene of any film ever”
Yeah
We can trust this man
Dude, i tried looking for this movie ages ago
And then in this video, Dave just throws it on my lap while praising it
Well, again, he didn't judge the fight on swordmenship and for some reason straight up just said that it wasn't about the fight and was about the narrative.
@@shadows_star well he did say that the actual fencing was better than most any other movies out there as well.
@@6jackace Well, to be fair a lot of fencing in movies is horrible
Yeah...... Best....
“I’m not sure that holding your hand is a- OH MY GOODNESS THIS IS TERRIBLE.”
My regular fencing club neighboured the Longsword Academy, and one night I met him on the tube and could just tell this guy was from the academy, because of those red and black pants and his bag of swords. Such a nice guy. He saw I was super-interested and at our stop he opened his bag and showed me all the swords at the station.
Clicked for the fights, stayed for the mustache.
He became 100% credible when he said the princess bride is the best fight scene ever.
/s?
and went back down when talking about lightsaber fights...like who df know how a lightsaber should be wielded ahaha
@@tyroneloki5131 All star wars nerds.
@@tyroneloki5131 George Lucas at least claimed Lightsabers are supposed to feel and handle pretty much like either Japanese katanas or European longswords. I believe that comes from the fact that the original lightsaber fight of Obi Wan vs. Vader in a New Hope was stylistically inspired by old Samurai movies and epics from the 40s and 50s.
@@tyroneloki5131 he's judging the fight style, not weapon props... Lightsaber wielding is shown in the movies so that should be a starting point... The problem is, some fights, like the one from RoTS are pretty good, but the one from the throne room is actually one of the worst fights ever filmed...
"The horses were very realistic: let's give it a 1"
I LOVE this man! :-)
Best part about this guy is he recognizes when a fight is trying to be real and when it's trying to tell a story.
SWORD MASTER IS A TITLE AND I WANT IT
Pretty sure his title said "Master of Arms".
Which imo sounds even more badass than just "sword master"
Dont get HEMA people started on the concept of a "Master" haha
@@tatumergo3931 thats cool and all, but is there a point in going to a school where you can't get a job?
@@Student-qs7ey Naturally! one should always endeavour to seek new and interesting knowledge and better oneself. Besides, few things offer as comprehensive a training, both mental and physical, as martial arts. And hema also adds history in the mix - truly, not bad for a hobby. And if you're good and dedicated, you can always start training other folks...
@@gregorstamejcic2355 It's depressing that some people only consider the acquisition of skill or knowledge as a means to getting a job. "Live to work" mentality.
*deep inside we all know that syrio forell is the best swordsman who ever lived*
Ser Arthur Dayne
Samwell Tarly
Podrick Payne
No, that would be Madmartigan from Willow
Me:His form is trash
Him: His form is quite good.
Me; His form is quite good.
It's the moustache effect.😆
I love seeing experts in a field critique stuff. It’s just so fun to see people being so passionate
One thing I love ab sword fighting is how many different styles there are to sword fighting. Like there are SO many different styles and different forms of blades that require different styles of fighting, it truly is an art form.
Yes! Finally someone who can explain that longswords aren't like wielding a massive sledgehammer.
Well if you're halfswording it's kinda like swinging a light sledgehammer
@@ASmartNameForMe do you mean murderstroking? Halfswording's when you're using it like a really short spear I think
@@magmat0585 Halfswording and murderstroke/mordhau is actually the same thing. Where you grab the blade with both hands and strike with the hilt or the pommel.
@max 117 ???????????film is film ,evry sword person no this ! i say this ,the master say this etc...........realy sword person say this !!!!!!!!!!!!i think you see to much movie !!!!!see a real fight !
“Finally”? Man, go watch skallagrim or shadiversity. Both lovely people with great content.
The most soft-spoken badass I've ever seen.
Speak softly and carry a big sword
He's a complete gentleman, with honor, values, discipline and whatnot.
There’s a Japanese one that competes with it.
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You mean like Sir Christopher Lee telling Peter Jackson that people don't scream when getting stabbed in the back. Lol
kcidmil I had no idea that was a real thing that happened, but that’s hilarious hahaha
'Believe it or not, you'll break your bones to bits if you try to leap from a building into a bale of hay.'
I picture the assassin just kind of staring at the camera, the lights flicker briefly, the assassin is suddenly gone and the screen splits in half.
I really want this to happen...
Pls make a part with "The Deluge" (or "Potop" in polish) from 1974, it has one of the most realistic saber fights ever (many experts agree).
"If someone has got their back to you and you have a spear, DO stab them in the back of the leg."
Ill remember that advice next time i have a spear
@@nosslraK Im afraid of forgetting the next time im in a sword fight
Honestly it doesn't really matter if their back is to you or not if you have a spear and they have a sword you've pretty much already won
That's what I tried to tell the jury as well, but they didn't listen :-/
That's what I always do.
Me - He better not make fun of Princes Bride
Him - This is the best fight scene in the history of movies
Me - Well done
Best movie ever
Daniel Stark thats your opinion. I can see why some would be turned off by the cheesiness of late 80s action. But for most its a movie that is a great one to enjoy.
Timeless classic. Even read the book and I don't like reading.
@Daniel Stark How could anyone watch the Princess Bride and not enjoy every moment.... we could not be friends
I love that while he analyzes how realistic each scene is, he also acknowledges the narrative and stylistic role of the scenes. I'd love to hear his opinion of the Michal Wolodyjowski scenes in "The Deluge" and "With Fire and Sword." Those are my favorite sword fight scenes.
I was thinking the same thing. I noticed he gives quite low ratings to "The Witcher" and "Die Another Day" then goes on to say the fencing in "The Princess Bride" is irrelevant to the story telling. Compare to Jill Bearup's videos where she gleefully dissects how all three of those fights are excellent at storytelling and characterization. I'd actually love to see her and Rawlings discuss all three together.
Geralt of Rivia is not human but a mutant
@@matthollywood8060 i'd say it's because in TPB it's about the conversation between the combatants, rather than the combat that matters. in TW & DAD, there's no real conversation at all - it's purely a fight scene, so it can only be measured as a fight scene.
@@MZB80 Yes and no. There is little to no talking in the TW and DAD scenes, but they are conversations in a way. There is storytelling in all three fights, and the action reveals much about the characters involved.
I don't know if he has enough knowledge as he rates sword fights and in "The Deluge" and "With Fire and Sword" they fight with sabers and there are differences between fighting those weapons. But it would be great if someone will analyze sabre fights in films. There's another good film called "Zrodzeni do szabli" ("Born to saber") that could also be taken into analysis. Unfortunately western world likes swords not sabers :/
Oh my gosh, Dave Rawlings is such a pleasant guy. You just feel so happy while learning.
Tis only logical that Geralt of Rivia is criticise by her holy duchess' captain of the guards, Damien De la Tour.
Im glad Im not the only person to see the resemblance XD
Same here
Yooo I knew that's where I was recognizing him lolol. RIP to my boy Detlaff though
Lmao I see it
Leonidas Escanor brilliant.
The lack of Lord of the Rings fights is truly disheartening.
Even pirates of the caribbean
Even Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
So let me put you at ease - none of these had any good swordfighting, but also nothing particularly bad in LOTR, considering the film standard - middle of the pack quality, so I guess not that interesting to discuss.
I clicked on it because i thought they would. I already prepared my behind-the-scenes-knowledge.
@@mikolajwitkowski8093 Aragorn literally reflected a knife with his sword wich wasn't planned, one of the most badass, accidental-swordsmanship moments ever
I love how his little kid comes out when talking about The Princess Bride and Star Wars. This man's heart is in the right place.
The way Geralt moves is a bit more about how Sapkowski described his fighting technique differs from regular people. The keyword: pirouette
Sapkowski did a great job at explaining Geralt's advantage being how he moves, and how inhumanely quick he can be whilst doing it. He usually makes half spins that just suprises his opponents, gets through multiple enemies with his extreme agility, getting then in their backs or flanks
"My goodness, this is terrible" got my like right out of the gate.
He might as well have been talking about season 8 ... "there is so much bad in this" xD
I wish more people would notice how atrocious the sword fighting technique is in Game of Thrones.
I took one look at this man, and said: *"He is a British badass gentleman."* and I was right.