I have one and love the construction. This is one of the very few guns that still uses the tenifer finish the original Glocks were known for and polygonal rifling. Great German engineering.
I love this pistol. Sold my S &W Shield and Ruger LC9 after I got this. Shoots smooth and accurate, recoil is light. Got the 6, 7,and the 8 round mags. Excellent carry pistol.
They need to release a pps m3. They should give the pps m3 a metal trigger, the pdp grip texture, widen the slide just enough to make it a semi double stack with a capacity of 13+1 or if possible, 16 rounds. Double the capacity. And make the sights night sights, and make the trigger a tad bit lighter, and reduce the reset alot!
I was happy to see your review! I went to my LGS over lunch today to compare a G42 and G43x, but the guy insisted I also look at the P-10S and M and this Walther. Wow. The P-10M and PPS M2 triggers were sooooooo much nicer, but the Walther took it with how it fit in my hands. Once the bank says I can, I'm going back for one. The bank currently has me on a one-in/one-out policy. :-(
I have had this handgun for a couple of years and I love it. it is incredibly accurate. Itis so easy to conceal carry. Even if the ammo is limited it's still enough for conceal carry. I donot use the 7 and 6 magazines. I bought two more 8 round mags. So I use three 8 round mags at any given time when I conceal carry. I bought the Walther PDP full size 5 inch as well and it is nice too. I do not enjoy conceal carrying it because it is so dang large. I carry it in the colder months under a jacket.
That's why I just subscribed. I am impartial to PPS myself. "Feels like a glove" is an accurate description - except I wouldn't say it about 6-round magazine. People with larger hands might disagree though. Holstering safety feature is why it's my favorite pocket carry. Between me and my wife, we have three of them: one with tritium sights, one with red dot, and one with Crimson Trace laser. Never knew about backup feed ramp, thanks for the information.
One of my favorite handguns. Mine came with the XS F8 night sights. Fits my hands and has never had a malfunction. The only thing I have to get is Talon grips. Enjoy your videos.
Hey, great review man. I can really see how much you love this baby. I just made the purchase and will pick her up next week. I too have the Hellcat RDP and recently even the Staccato CS and equally excited to try this out.
Got my M2 LE for $315 at Bud's Gun Shop, they are great. Got a decent ankle holster from Shoot Straight for like $29. Like the PPQ, it has a nice, smooth, crisp trigger with a great reset, honestly, one of the best synonymous to the PPQ's trigger in .40/.45ACP.
As a warm-weather pocket pistol, my PPS M2 had major problems with the mag release spring and the slide stop spring rusting. Even Frog Lube didn't help. Carry was in a Galco pocket holster.
I have a Hellcat Pro right now as my main carry, but I miss carrying my Walther PPQ M2 when I lived in the Midwest during spring, autumn and winter. Living in South Florida again, it's much harder to carry even compacts 😅. Even my Hellcat Pro is rough during the Floridian summer. A PPS M3 based on the PDP platform with an increase in capacity to a P365XL or Shield Plus would be ideal and something I would buy instantly. Walther is as high quality as HK but without the ridiculous price tag. Gotta love German engineering.
I bought the PPS M2 in 2022. It’s an accurate and flat shooting subcompact that I used for conceal carry and planned to use for IDPA “BUG” division. In 2023 the gun went full auto after intermittent trigger reset failure. I sent it to Walther and they replaced some components of the internal steel frame trigger control assembly. It now shoots well with a slightly heavier trigger pull and my confidence in the firearm is nearly restored. I just saw it featured on Swat season 7 in a seen featuring impressive life saving accuracy. This is a “sleeper” gun.
I used to own a PPS M1. I loved that gun. I carried it regularly for years. It was very well made, with tight tolerances that made it extremely accurate for me. Its slim, single stack design made it very comfortable to carry IWB. Unlike most American shooters, I actually liked the European-style magazine release. I regret selling it until this day. I wish Walther would redesign it in a stack and a half configuration, like the Sig P365 & S&W M&P Shield Plus (my current EDC).
I had a Springfield XD mod 2 that had that little firing pin that came out the back like that and it got dirty and I started having light primer strikes even though I cleaned my firearm every time I went to the range. I had to actually take the firing pin out and clean just because the lent and dirt from EDC the gun 🤦
I love my Walther PPS M2. It's my fall/winter EDC. I'll never trade it, but I'm tempted by the g-43x to get 15 rounds. Living in the Chicago area makes 15 necessary.
The rear sight dovetail on the slide is asymmetrical. Rear sight needs to be driven out from Left to Right and the new sight driven in from Right to Left. This is because Walther uses a sort of expanding coil pin between the dovetail and the rear sight to hold the sight in place and you can see the one-way groove on the right side of the dovetail. You do not need to re-use the coil pin when installing aftermarket night sights. In my case I installed TruGlo Tritium Pro night sights.
I'm hearing rumors that Walther may finally be issuing a higher capacity version of the PPS. I don't care personally, as I'm happy with my PPS M1, but it's interesting nonetheless.
Love your videos SPN…… been watching for several months and appreciate your opinions. I understand this is a single stack pistol, but can you compare size and trigger pull to a M&P Shield Plus? Thank you
Walther makes a model of the pps that comes stock with nice night sights the front is an orange dot and the rear is serrated with a single dot kind of like the XS big Dot or Hiene figure 8s
Agree 99% with this review, except for the button mag release vs paddle. I’ve carried the PPS M2 for 7 years now. The Glock 43X/48 are tempting for sure, but since I appendix carry, that striker indicator on the back of the slide makes all the difference in giving me peace of mind while reholstering. In fact, even though HK might be releasing their SFPcc this year and Walther could be developing a PPS M3, I recently invested more in my PPS M2 by sending the slide out to get milled for an MRS. Now it’s even better, in my estimation.
Agreed. That's how I feel about my p99. And now that it's discontinued, it's bloody HELL trying to find one. Other than that UGLY ass "Final Edition". Which is STILL $799!
Trigger would be preference. For range time, I'll take the trigger on the Shield Plus *Any* day of the week. But, with that very short travel, that I absolutely *love* on the 2.0+ ... the PPS trigger would be a safer _carry_ option, for Me.
Aw shoot bro caught me off guard with the pps. I wanted this so bad but I couldn’t because the shield plus exists. I have a pdp tho but it’s just fuckin huge
The size on the PDP. You know, that's so the thing can double as a MACE, right? 😄 You own a great pistol, AND a horrific blunt weapon! 😆 All in the same holster! I haven't had a chance to get my hands on one yet. But I will say that I disagree with Walther's decision for this as a *replacement* for the PPQ. As for the PPS. Great pistol. Loved the feel of it, as soon as I put it in my hand. Shoots great too. But as soon as I popped the mag and saw it marked for 6 rounds? Nope, nope, nope, and Nope.
I don’t. I actually have the xd9 and it’s one of my favorite handguns. It’s also one of my first carry guns. They are the same just a different caliber!
The m1 original (Hard to find!) is ambi mag release with the paddle. I know, SPN doesn't like the paddle as much. But, once you get used to it, and the versatility of it, it's a better system for quite a few users. A more enjoyable one, for a lot of users too.
If you can get one in good condition, and it's not going to hurt you for your budget, *do* it. The m1's are getting hard to find, and the .40s are turning into pennies. (They go from pocket to pocket to pocket, of *different* people's jeans). It will never be a collector's item, by *any* means. But it's one of those pistols that you can brag about having. But, as for carry? I mean, that's something you'd have to shoot, in order for you to decide. Walthers are, in my experience a slightly snappier brand. And .40 is quite so, as a caliber. Fairly _loud_ too. So it's not an enjoyable experience for _some_ shooters. And a gun they don't like shooting, is a gun they don't wanna carry. Again, you have to shoot it to decide for yourself.
It's been $349 online at Brownells for a few weeks now. I will probably pick it up myself since it's so cheap if it's still there by the end of the month.
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I got my LE model for $300 locally. Make sure your barrel doesn't peen too much from the trigger bar. My new one isn't but 5 years ago mine was really bad.
It’s a good single stack but Walther is phasing-out the PPQ design elements. Expect a PDS double stack next year, the dodgeball grip texture replaced by new honeycomb, chunky-boi slide serrations, and an optics cut. The CCP will probably get dropped altogether and the PD380 will also get a 9mm variant (30 Super Carry if they’re feeling generous)
Mine sits in the safe... it won't go 100 rounds without a failure to feed! The mags are junk, and Walther needed to go back to the drawing board 8 years ago..
Finally, an appearance from the PPS. An underrated single-stack for sure.
Yes 100%! It’s one of the greatest. I carry it often still to this day.
I have one and love the construction. This is one of the very few guns that still uses the tenifer finish the original Glocks were known for and polygonal rifling. Great German engineering.
Yes agreed. Well said. Respect!
Super accurate shoots like a bigger gun way better than a g43
I love this pistol. Sold my S &W Shield and Ruger LC9 after I got this. Shoots smooth and accurate, recoil is light. Got the 6, 7,and the 8 round mags. Excellent carry pistol.
They need to release a pps m3. They should give the pps m3 a metal trigger, the pdp grip texture, widen the slide just enough to make it a semi double stack with a capacity of 13+1 or if possible, 16 rounds. Double the capacity. And make the sights night sights, and make the trigger a tad bit lighter, and reduce the reset alot!
Most of that is in the all-new PDP-F series 3.5".
I got the 4" to use Duty ammo.
I'll either use Hornady Critical Duty or Lehigh Extreme Defense.
I picked on of these up for cheap and I love it, fits great in the hands, and pretty accurate too.
I was happy to see your review! I went to my LGS over lunch today to compare a G42 and G43x, but the guy insisted I also look at the P-10S and M and this Walther. Wow. The P-10M and PPS M2 triggers were sooooooo much nicer, but the Walther took it with how it fit in my hands. Once the bank says I can, I'm going back for one. The bank currently has me on a one-in/one-out policy. :-(
Nice to see you review a Walther. Great review. Has features from the legendary PPQ.
I have had this handgun for a couple of years and I love it. it is incredibly accurate. Itis so easy to conceal carry. Even if the ammo is limited it's still enough for conceal carry. I donot use the 7 and 6 magazines. I bought two more 8 round mags. So I use three 8 round mags at any given time when I conceal carry.
I bought the Walther PDP full size 5 inch as well and it is nice too. I do not enjoy conceal carrying it because it is so dang large. I carry it in the colder months under a jacket.
That's why I just subscribed. I am impartial to PPS myself. "Feels like a glove" is an accurate description - except I wouldn't say it about 6-round magazine. People with larger hands might disagree though. Holstering safety feature is why it's my favorite pocket carry. Between me and my wife, we have three of them: one with tritium sights, one with red dot, and one with Crimson Trace laser.
Never knew about backup feed ramp, thanks for the information.
One of my favorite handguns. Mine came with the XS F8 night sights. Fits my hands and has never had a malfunction.
The only thing I have to get is Talon grips. Enjoy your videos.
Hey, great review man. I can really see how much you love this baby. I just made the purchase and will pick her up next week. I too have the Hellcat RDP and recently even the Staccato CS and equally excited to try this out.
Got my M2 LE for $315 at Bud's Gun Shop, they are great. Got a decent ankle holster from Shoot Straight for like $29. Like the PPQ, it has a nice, smooth, crisp trigger with a great reset, honestly, one of the best synonymous to the PPQ's trigger in .40/.45ACP.
Sweet! I just know saw this, & I was the one that requested it! So thank you SPN for hearing your viewers out!! ❤️🤍💙
As a warm-weather pocket pistol, my PPS M2 had major problems with the mag release spring and the slide stop spring rusting. Even Frog Lube didn't help. Carry was in a Galco pocket holster.
I have this with Big Dots on it. Something about single stacks. It carries nicely. Love it.
I cant wait for a pps m3 to be made . That would be great . 12 round mag & a rail .
I have a Hellcat Pro right now as my main carry, but I miss carrying my Walther PPQ M2 when I lived in the Midwest during spring, autumn and winter. Living in South Florida again, it's much harder to carry even compacts 😅. Even my Hellcat Pro is rough during the Floridian summer. A PPS M3 based on the PDP platform with an increase in capacity to a P365XL or Shield Plus would be ideal and something I would buy instantly. Walther is as high quality as HK but without the ridiculous price tag. Gotta love German engineering.
Double stack rumored for 2025. PPQ design style updated with PDP design
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I like how light it is. Love my PPS M2 LE
I bought mine 3 years ago. I love it. It’s never failed me.
Thank you for this vid brother. I'm currently shopping around for a CCW
I bought the PPS M2 in 2022. It’s an accurate and flat shooting subcompact that I used for conceal carry and planned to use for IDPA “BUG” division. In 2023 the gun went full auto after intermittent trigger reset failure. I sent it to Walther and they replaced some components of the internal steel frame trigger control assembly. It now shoots well with a slightly heavier trigger pull and my confidence in the firearm is nearly restored. I just saw it featured on Swat season 7 in a seen featuring impressive life saving accuracy. This is a “sleeper” gun.
“My $450 gun broke. Now it’s worth $3000” 😂
@@garrettlundy3959 I'm with you! Why in the world did that guy return it?!?!
Love mine. Pocket carry for a couple years. Mounted some TruGlo TFX Pros. Talon Grips. Money.
My boy spn is getting close to 100k subs💪🏾💯
Yessir! More than 3/4’s of the way there! Respect and thank you for the support
I used to own a PPS M1. I loved that gun. I carried it regularly for years. It was very well made, with tight tolerances that made it extremely accurate for me. Its slim, single stack design made it very comfortable to carry IWB. Unlike most American shooters, I actually liked the European-style magazine release. I regret selling it until this day. I wish Walther would redesign it in a stack and a half configuration, like the Sig P365 & S&W M&P Shield Plus (my current EDC).
I had a Springfield XD mod 2 that had that little firing pin that came out the back like that and it got dirty and I started having light primer strikes even though I cleaned my firearm every time I went to the range. I had to actually take the firing pin out and clean just because the lent and dirt from EDC the gun 🤦
I love my Walther PPS M2. It's my fall/winter EDC. I'll never trade it, but I'm tempted by the g-43x to get 15 rounds. Living in the Chicago area makes 15 necessary.
The rear sight dovetail on the slide is asymmetrical. Rear sight needs to be driven out from Left to Right and the new sight driven in from Right to Left. This is because Walther uses a sort of expanding coil pin between the dovetail and the rear sight to hold the sight in place and you can see the one-way groove on the right side of the dovetail. You do not need to re-use the coil pin when installing aftermarket night sights. In my case I installed TruGlo Tritium Pro night sights.
I'm hearing rumors that Walther may finally be issuing a higher capacity version of the PPS. I don't care personally, as I'm happy with my PPS M1, but it's interesting nonetheless.
This and the Mako R7 are 2 of the most beautiful micro 9s of all time
I bought the LE vrsion in 2019 for $298.00 (pre-Covid pricing) Still use it in my edc rotation
Wow, great deal! And I’m actually carrying it right now. I just love the trigger and how well it shoots. Respect and thanks for watching
I love the trigger too. Great video
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I'd love to get this and the Beretta Nano and compare the two.
Where does one get this for super cheap? Thanks! Nice video! Thinking of the CCP M2 also
Love your videos SPN…… been watching for several months and appreciate your opinions. I understand this is a single stack pistol, but can you compare size and trigger pull to a M&P Shield Plus? Thank you
Yes I got you! Thanks for the support and respect!
Walther makes a model of the pps that comes stock with nice night sights the front is an orange dot and the rear is serrated with a single dot kind of like the XS big Dot or Hiene figure 8s
Agree 99% with this review, except for the button mag release vs paddle. I’ve carried the PPS M2 for 7 years now. The Glock 43X/48 are tempting for sure, but since I appendix carry, that striker indicator on the back of the slide makes all the difference in giving me peace of mind while reholstering. In fact, even though HK might be releasing their SFPcc this year and Walther could be developing a PPS M3, I recently invested more in my PPS M2 by sending the slide out to get milled for an MRS. Now it’s even better, in my estimation.
Looking at surgeries on both of your wrists, did you have CMC arthroplasty?
Is it still worth it today in light of the half stack competition?
I'm between this and the Beretta apx a1 carry
Love this gun. I wish I wouldn't have sold it. I'm going to have to get another one.
Agreed. That's how I feel about my p99. And now that it's discontinued, it's bloody HELL trying to find one. Other than that UGLY ass "Final Edition". Which is STILL $799!
The PPS is the only gun I will buy used and not feel compelled to have a long testing period. They are dead nuts reliable.
Looks very similar to a Shield 2.0 Maybe even better with the trigger.
Trigger would be preference. For range time, I'll take the trigger on the Shield Plus *Any* day of the week. But, with that very short travel, that I absolutely *love* on the 2.0+ ... the PPS trigger would be a safer _carry_ option, for Me.
Walther rocks!
Agreed 100%! Can’t go wrong with any Walther
Great single stack. I think I like the m1 a bit better but the m2 is great also.
Agreed. Once you get started using that paddle mag release properly, it turns into a preference.
Aw shoot bro caught me off guard with the pps. I wanted this so bad but I couldn’t because the shield plus exists. I have a pdp tho but it’s just fuckin huge
The size on the PDP. You know, that's so the thing can double as a MACE, right? 😄 You own a great pistol, AND a horrific blunt weapon! 😆 All in the same holster!
I haven't had a chance to get my hands on one yet. But I will say that I disagree with Walther's decision for this as a *replacement* for the PPQ.
As for the PPS. Great pistol. Loved the feel of it, as soon as I put it in my hand. Shoots great too. But as soon as I popped the mag and saw it marked for 6 rounds? Nope, nope, nope, and Nope.
Is this in your opinion better than the Taurus g3c
Hey what’s good SPN?! Do you happen to have a Springfield XD-40? If you do could you do a review on it?
I don’t. I actually have the xd9 and it’s one of my favorite handguns. It’s also one of my first carry guns. They are the same just a different caliber!
@@spnfirearms awesome they have some good deals on the stainless version! May have to pick it up!
The PPS will smoke the p365 and hellcat easily. Very little muzzle rise and recoil impulse for a micro pistol.
Unless they catch up to their mag capacity.... it'll never be there. Hence why they're selling them for so cheap.
Just wish I could change the magazine release to the right hand side. For that I may have to get the Apx
Fair enough! The CSX is also a great option that has ambidextrous controls!
The m1 original (Hard to find!) is ambi mag release with the paddle. I know, SPN doesn't like the paddle as much. But, once you get used to it, and the versatility of it, it's a better system for quite a few users. A more enjoyable one, for a lot of users too.
@@user-dq9pq8uv4e I don’t mind the paddle I love the one on the H&K’s
Where did you buy out?
Happy Thanksgiving Spn! Happy Thanksgiving Viewers! Hope that you all have a great holiday!
What you think of the Walther pps m1 chambered in .40sw
If you can get one in good condition, and it's not going to hurt you for your budget, *do* it. The m1's are getting hard to find, and the .40s are turning into pennies. (They go from pocket to pocket to pocket, of *different* people's jeans). It will never be a collector's item, by *any* means. But it's one of those pistols that you can brag about having.
But, as for carry? I mean, that's something you'd have to shoot, in order for you to decide. Walthers are, in my experience a slightly snappier brand. And .40 is quite so, as a caliber. Fairly _loud_ too. So it's not an enjoyable experience for _some_ shooters. And a gun they don't like shooting, is a gun they don't wanna carry.
Again, you have to shoot it to decide for yourself.
From where you get it for 350
As per your video, it is $350. I only found $450, which was the cheapest. Can you share the info on that store or website where you bought from ?
It's been $349 online at Brownells for a few weeks now. I will probably pick it up myself since it's so cheap if it's still there by the end of the month.
I got my LE model for $300 locally. Make sure your barrel doesn't peen too much from the trigger bar. My new one isn't but 5 years ago mine was really bad.
I love mine.
Try getting you hands on a 3953 tsw
how do you feel about the ruger LC9S pro
I have the LC9s and love it! The pro is just better. Mine has ran flawlessly, not a single issue!
I want one.
Hey could you turn your g27 into a 357 sig lol ik it's a unrelated question
Yes of course! Just buy a conversion barrel
Being fashionable is costly. Avoiding fashion saves money.
Great
How about a PDP compact or 3.5 F? 👀
Yes I am also more interested in the pdp.
It’s a good single stack but Walther is phasing-out the PPQ design elements.
Expect a PDS double stack next year, the dodgeball grip texture replaced by new honeycomb, chunky-boi slide serrations, and an optics cut.
The CCP will probably get dropped altogether and the PD380 will also get a 9mm variant (30 Super Carry if they’re feeling generous)
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i really like that ignore the haters i really like the looks of it
It’s a great handgun, it really is. Has served me really well
Mine sits in the safe... it won't go 100 rounds without a failure to feed! The mags are junk, and Walther needed to go back to the drawing board 8 years ago..
How’s this trigger compared to the shield plus ?
It has a more defined and heavier wall but it’s a great trigger. I do like the shield plus trigger better but the Walther is flatter shooting
@@spnfirearms thanks SPN!!!
For a Walther, the trigger is a little mushy. The rest of it: looks, ergos and recoil is really good.
Tiggers dont matter on pistols
@@10oneryou don’t shoot a lot do you?
@@10oner I would argue they matter even more on pistols than rifles due to recoil impulse being much worse on pistols than long guns.
Is it a EZ rack
PDP please :-)
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Respect as always!
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I wish Walther would stop messing around and update this model.
What about it needs to be updated?
@@bourboncowboy7715probably the trigger bar peening the barrel really bad. But damn they shoot awesome.
You must be talons best customer
I stopped a robbery with my pps m2
That's a lot of gun for $350 !!
Paid 350 where please
Ergo is spot on, it is just very heavy!
How can you review it without shooting it?
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