Glock 43 vs Walther PPS M2- If I Could Only Have One...
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I have both of these pistols. Actually, I have 4 of the popular 9mm single stacks, the G43, Performance Center Shield, PPS M2 and the XDs. Walther wins on ergonomics by far. Build quality? I'd say Walther and the XDs tie for the win, then the G43, with the Shield in last. The shield wins in the looks department. I love the lightning cuts and ported barrel. Even though the trigger pull on the Walther is a little heavy, it does have a very nice clean break. That said, if I'm going to carry a single stack 9mm (I carry a Sig P320c quite often), I carry my G43, mainly because I like having the lasermax guide rod in it. I might get a trigger mounted laser for the Walther one day so my CCW might change. I just like the clean looks of a pistol without crap sticking off of it. Plus, it's a smaller CC pistol without add-ons like that.
Thanks tscooter! That's a great assortment of single stacks! I agree with your ranking and assessment completely and at the end of the day, they are all pretty great. Cheers brother!
I forgot to thank you for your video! Keep up the great work. Subscribe and like, people!! This guy is good!
Thanks as always ts!
you need to add to your list the Ruger LC9s pro, i think has superior trigger than the others on its category , however i am considering to get the pps m2 le. with $100 rebate is really tentative... i can be 310dls after rebate and tax not bad at all for a quality gun ..
Thanks Milton! I had an original LC9 and it was a great gun. I hear very good things about the LC9s Pro trigger. Perhaps one day! Cheers
Let me see. Sights? Walther,. Trigger? Walther. Ergonomics? For my hand, Walther. Mags? Out of the box, Walther. And a good 200 dollars less. Any doubt?
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
The PPS is as low as 259, even 249 plus delivery on some online retailers as of mid June, 2019! Wow. Theres and indication of how overpriced Glocks , really are while giving us plastic sights and guide rods and no innovation, whatsoever.
dang so cheap. california, private sellers only going for $700+ for M2
Is the PPS M2 has a lighter trigger than the Glock 43 and M&P shield 2.0?
Yah! The way you said it ! Walther any day of the week over the glock
I have owned a Glock 43, Beretta Nano, Kahr Cm9 and Sig 938. Sold them all for various reasons. Bought the PPS M2 and have finally found a single stack 9 that I love. This thing is awesome. If you are on the fence, buy the PPS M2! You will not regret it.
That's a great list to go through Jon! I echo your findings and agree it's a great gun. Cheers brother!
Jon Dibee I own the PPQ, but went with the G43 for daily CCW. Now I’m starting to rethink my decision. What are your thoughts on the Walther M2 7 round mag grip length compared to a G43 with an extended mag base plate, is there a big difference regarding printing?
@@j.p.4541 you can get an 8 rounder for the pps m2
I was recently shopping for a single stack. Shot them all and the Walther PPS M2 was the winner. In my test the Shield beat the G43 as well. Not only is the PPS great a close range I'm able to hit center mass at 25 yards. I've got close to 1500 rounds through the PPS ; not one failure. Extremely happy with the PPS.
J Mccas that's awesome J! It's a great gun indeed brother. Cheers!
But it weighs about the same as the glock 26 which will hold up to 33 rounds and is a great shooter; ask Hikok 45.
@@jakeblack7784, sure…Hickock 45 is a real dyed in the wool Glock bigot! 😉
I love how Glock owners recommend updating the field goal, plastic sights first thing when purchasing. How about Glock stops being cheap and puts the industry standard 3 dot, steel sights on their firearms to begin with. Cheap and lazy if you ask me. Spending money to get the pistol up to par right off the bat. lame.
Great thoughts Michael! Thanks and cheers
Or reduce the price and not bother to put sights on at all and just make the buyer go out and get real sights.
I'd be on board with that! Cheers Mark
Michael Glocks are great guns but way over priced with how they come from factory! IMO......
I guarantee that I own/have owned more Glocks than anyone commenting on this thread. I own/have owned 21 Glocks to date starting with Gen2's thru Gen5. I have/have had multiple copies of virtually all models in 9mm, 40, 45, & 10mm except the G40, G30, G40, & G35. Guess how many had stock plastic sights? All but 3. Guess how many broke? 0. Guess how many had steel guide rods? 0. Guess how many stock plastic guide rods broke? 0, even when shooting hot 10mm.
You can say Glocks are overpriced but when you buy one you know you're getting a reliable & durable handgun. You're also getting solid customer service & quick repairs for the life of your Glock. One of the Gen4 G20's I bought new was a straight lemon out of the box. I called Glock and they sent me a prepaid shipping label. I mailed the G20 out on Monday & by that Friday I had a different brand new G20 with 3 new mags. They even let me keep the 3 mags that came with the 1st G20. On top of that, you're also getting a firearm that you can quickly re-sell & not lose a ton of money on if you decide you want to sell.
I'm not saying Glocks are the only good guns on the market. There are guns that are just as good but majority of them do not have the track record that Glock does. They do not have quick & easy customer service and they don't sell on the used gun market as quickly unless you practically give them away. For example, I had a mint CZ P10-c I decided to sell. I priced it to sell fast & it sat on a Maine/NH private sale site for two months. I decided to trade it in at a local shop that does big business & it sat on their shelves for months.
Walther so underrated.
Thanks for the comment and I agree! Cheers
Messina i think they got kind of a tarnished name when umarex bought the us naming rights and starting making crap guns using the walther name. i.e. the walther ccp or pk.380 always make sure your walther is a genuine one made in Germany.
Main reason I'm looking at the 43x is because the PPS is a Heavy Tank, a Tank that shoots very well.
Very much so. My wife bought one and after I shot it I bought one. Great feel and I’m happy with the results it has given me.
Walther is highly rated, Americans are just dull and prefer Glocks
I was really was trying to hate on the walther but after shooting it Man-O-Man! I own several Glocks Walther PPS M2 is my new EDC hands-down!
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
German engineering! I carry the PPS M2 LE when driving my BMW X5 XDRIVE 35 DIESEL. I can't carry the Glock 43 because I don't drive a Austrian made car. 😋
David Hudson try saying that 5x fast lol
Oh David don't be so gay
Loosely translated:
"I'm a tool. Hey everyone, look what I got."
Can't beat German engineering
tested both, bought the walther
That's awesome Chad! Cheers
What did you like about the walther?
I bought the Walther PPS M2. Fits my hand like a glove. You can't beat German engineering.
I love it!
Just bought PPS this past weekend put over a 100 rounds through it no problem. Shoots great, extremely easy to take apart and put back together and I love the way it feels in the hand.
Just scooped up one of the LE editions, of the PPS M2, myself. Thanks for the share!
Your videos are clear and easy to watch and I generally share your conclusions - Thanks
Thank you very much Jeffrey! I appreciate that brother. Cheers!
Haven't watched the video yet... BUT... I own both. The PPS M2 is a wayyyyyyy better pistol. Super accurate, too.
Thanks for the comment Dante! I agree! Cheers
Great lil cliff hanger there at the beginning...I knew which one you thought was going to be you pick. In the end I would have probably chosen the PPS as well...and you know I love my Glock. But from the sights, grip, magazines and the way you shot the PPS was no doubt the one to go with. Great video!!!
Thanks Gerald! I like them both but at the end of the day, the ergos on the PPS are hard to beat. Cheers brother!
A rather well-narrated comparison. I just picked up a Walther PPS M2 two days ago on recommendation by a colleague who is, as you appear to be, well-versed.
Good comparison vid as really like your series as very thorough info and good vid...Good stuff....
Thank you very much as always Scott! I appreciate you brother
Ah, it warms my heart seeing a Glock being taken down! Hehehe...
-Jen
Haha! Thanks Jen. Too funny!
Have you compared the ease of racking on the two guns? I have arthritis and I got a G43 because it was way easier than the Shield that I used to own, but I hear good things about the PPS M2 as well. I am interested in a woman's perspective on racking.
I own the g21 and i really dont know what the hype is. I guess its like GOING WITH THE FLOW. Was caught in the glock current until i reached out and grabbed the spring field and smith&wesson Life ring 🏊🏼♂️
No point in talking about trigger or reset on self defense gun, by and large.
Love all the comments on PPS M2. I’ve had mine for 6 months and just got my carry permit so now my EDC. I love the gun and only thing I don't like is the plastic guide rod and the sights aren’t great but it’s a 9/10 gun and easy upgrades and reliable and shoots anything I’ve put in there. Great value and gun.
Thank you for your great video! I finally bought Walther PPS ! Love it
Picked up a second hand PPS m2 to teach my daughter how to shoot a hand gun. I wish I discovered this gun sooner. I love the m2 previous owner took great care of it and we have put few hundred rounds through it so far with no misfires or other issues. I love this gun.
Walther feels amazing in the hand. Shooting it, I felt my hand was absorbing a lot of that energy more so than the Glock 43. Accuracy was about the same. The Walther feels a bit bigger in the hand. Both are great guns, Walther really is underrated but that's good cause you get it for cheaper.
First time gun owner and after watching your review I’m glad I did go with the Walther PPS M2 LE and I’ve started with my classes and found that I enjoying shooting it and the slide is not hard to slide back
I agree, if only 1. PPS M2 LE. and when u consider $, less then the 43 and with glow sights/ 3 mags with alil more capacity.
Thanks Zax and I agree! Great way to sum it up brother! Cheers
Absolutely Zax!!!
Two really good ones that I enjoy! I will have to agree with you on the winner. Thanks!
Thanks 72! It was a tough choice but the PPS is a really great single stack option. Cheers!
Great video! I just bought my first hand gun, the Walther PPS M2, and I love it! Still learning, so this was a good video for me on a few levels!!
Thank you! Congrats on the PPS M2. It’s a great gun for sure. Cheers!
I just saw the $100 rebate on Walther this morning and thought about the PPS. Then I thought why would I get one of those when I have a g43? Then you made this video... Now I have a fever, and it can cured by a new handgun!
+Random J haha! That's awesome brother. Keep me posted on what you find! Cheers
with that rebate, the PPS m2 is a no brainer. IMO, the 2 best single stacks polymers are the PPS & the Bersa BP9cc. the bersa deserves more attention and outclasses it's competition by a good degree with its phenomenal trigger.
Thanks Erick! I've heard good things about the Bersa and would like to learn more. I'll keep my eye out for one! Cheers
Random J I have a PPQ M2 .40 and it's probably my favorite gun ever so when i saw the 100 rebate i jumped on a PPS M2 LE. I'm actually picking it up tomorrow! can't wait!
Random J git that PPS! I actually bought mine sight unseen (never test fired) and have not been disappointed.
I have experience with both and in my opinion the Walther PPS M2 is the winner. Much easier and fun to shoot. I could shoot it all day long like a full size gun. I can't say that about the Glock 43. The PPS fits better in my hand also. The PPS is an awesome pistol! I currently own 6 Glocks and love them but in this comparison the Glock loses.
Thanks for the comment Warmachine! I agree with you. The PPS is a lot of fun to shoot, largely because of the great ergos. Cheers!
Love my 43. Good job on the video. Subbed
Thank you very much and it's a great gun! Cheers and thanks again!
Great review! I own the PPS M2 and agree with everything you said. The trigger pull is amazing and shoots very well. Surprisingly even though my pinky goes over the end of the 6 round mag it is very comfortable to fire and I am actually more accurate vs the 7 round mag. The only negative I have is the sight did need some adjustment out of the box and unlike most Walthers, there is no key adjustment. I did not feel comfortable using a drift as customer support suggested so I purchased a sight adjustment tool on Amazon for $40. Easy to use and pulled it right in. Would highly recommend for anyone as a CC pistol!
I've owned both and the XDS. I don't like the shields ergos. I do have to say the PPS M2, is the easiest to shoot and most comfortable.
Thank you for the comment! I couldn't agree more. Cheers!
Thanks for this, I've held both but have been undecided. The pps did feel the best of all subcompacts but the fact that it shot a little better as well is a true seller. 👍👍👍
My pleasure! The PPS is a great gun for sure. Thank you and cheers!
Cool. I chose the PPS M2 over my Shield which I still have and keep as a backup gun. The G43 looks good and I'm sure it would work just fine as a slim carry gun too.
Funky Fresh thanks Funky! All three are great options for sure. Hard to beat the ergos on the pps though. Cheers brother!
Both are nice but i think id go PPS M2 good stuff brother Have a great day!
+TwistedMetals OfTexas I agree! Thanks TMT! Cheers brother
I am considering buy the PPS M2 LE with the 100 dls rebate sounds sweet !! I have the Ruger LC9s pro as a daily carry, 4 pounds trigger pull, light weight , very accurate , i like it a lot,but the PPS is very good looking gun and i already own a PPQ which i love !! i think im gonna get it...
Thanks Milton! It's a phenomenal gun for sure and I highly recommend it! Cheers
Just got the PPS M2 9mm last week and I absolutely love it. Disclaimer: I have not yet shot a Glock 43. I've heard great things about both pistols, but the ergonomics of the Walther won me over (when comparing both pistols at the gun shop). Great video, and thanks for comparing the two pistols.
Thank you Jim! I completely agree with you about the ergonomics of the PPS. You really can't beat it when talking about striker fired guns. Great stuff brother. Cheers!
Thanks for posting this video and taking the time. I usually carry a G26 in my pocket most of the time (even if I have a G19 on my belt) and switch to the G43 when the type of clothes I wear require something slightly lighter and thinner. For me, the G43 is pretty specialized and my G26 and G19 are pretty much what I carry all the time. The G43 with the Taran Tactical +1 base plate is extremely helpful. It's too bad Glock didn't go that route from the onset. Same with the sights. I don't think Glocks are the definition of "Perfection" but they're pretty good tools for their intended purposes.
I do believe that regardless of make or caliber, whatever works best and is something that you will carry is most important. If I could only have one?... I'd go with the President's Secret Service detail! :)))
I love the build quality on the walther!!! Man that thing has some serious rails on the frame
Great review and good points, the G43 is one of the major single stack pistols I actually didn't own. I just don't like single stack pistols, in fact I don't own them anymore. Have a great weekend brother!
Thanks Fu! Seems like everything is moving to double-stack. I wonder if it's because holsters and belts are getting better? Cheers brother!
Three years later
The PPSM2 is still my favorite single stack EDC
Good comparison. I bought my G43 prior to the release of the PPS M2. While I still like the G43, I would have STRONGLY considered the PPS M2 if it were available at the time. My biggest issue with all Glocks are the cheapo stock plastic sights. Replacing the sights is an (almost) necessary add-on expense when purchasing one. Having said that, the Pearce plus 1 magazine extensions are relatively cheap, and function perfectly with the stock G43 magazine spring. They're only marginally bigger than the stock G43 magazine with the pinky extension included. They're also very concealable. I have a total of 4 magazines, all with the Pearce plus one extensions. They also blend in perfectly with the Glock grip.
That's awesome David! I know Pearce does a great job with their extensions. I used a few with the G26. Great point about the sights and I couldn't agree more. It's a necessary expense with any Glock as far as I am concerned. Thanks for the thoughts and comments brother! Cheers
Both are surprisingly good good shooters especially for their size. I bought a PPS M1 or classic last year in factory tungsten gray. Yes, the M1 has a grittier trigger out of the box, but has smoothed out considerably with time. I also like the blocky odd look of the M1, but that's just me surely in the minority. Anyway, nice review! Can't go wrong with either of those two.
Thanks Robert! I bet the tungsten looks awesome! I do like the m1 as well. Equally fun to shoot. Cheers brother!
KS I enjoy you guys on Wed nights, also the PPS M2 is my carry gun...I love it, as you say it fits perfect in the hand.
+nccivilwar thanks NC! We have a great time with you guys as well and we learn a lot from you! Makes it all the more fun. Great group of folks. The PPS is a keeper indeed. Cheers!
I like the PPS so much, I bought three of them.
That’s awesome! Thank you and cheers!
I recently had the opportunity to purchase a very slightly used (only 10 rds fired) PPS M2 for $300. It has since replaced my XDs 3.3 9MM as my EDC. The Walther's superior sights (faster on-target acquisition for me), ergonomics, trigger, and weight (slightly lighter than the XDs) were the deciding factors in my swap. If the PPS M2 had been available when I was an LEO, it would have been my BUG instead of the SIG P230 I carried in that role.
Jim Hovater palmetto has them brand new for $269.99 shipped today I can’t believe how much the pps m2’s drooped in price compared to the competitors
Being a lefty I bought a PPS m1 with the trigger well mag release. love it
Carried the Shield for about 5 years. Always liked it and still own it. My wife carries an XDS 9 and I have put plenty of rounds through it, it's a nice shooter. Own a Glock 21 and 17. Like them both. Rented the 43 on many occasions. All said and done, what do you feel most comfortable with and what do you shoot the best? For me, Walther all day long. Great video.
Walther PPS all the way. A GREAT handgun.
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
OMG a Walther, 1776 or Bust will be so proud lol. As always good stuff dude. Any plans on doing the Cz p07 Vs the Cz p01? I think that would be an interesting comparison.
Haha! I'm sure he'll appreciate that Shawn! Hey, that's a great idea and I'll do it. That will be an interesting comparison indeed. Cheers brother!
Very informative info. on m2 vs.43 , how about new pricing between the 2.& resale value.
Thanks Pete and great question! At least in my area, the G43 holds its value a little better. That said, you pay a bit more up front for it as well. I find that glocks in general hold their value well. Cheers!
Great comparative video. I have the PPP M2 LE model and its a dream to shoot. By the way, your range distances would be interesting to know.
Thank you very much Red! The PPS is definitely a favorite. As for the distances, I shoot anywhere from 7 to 10 yards depending on the guns and my mood. Probably 7 for the single stacks. Thank you and cheers!
I shot the PPS M2 for the first time at the USCCA Expo and at 15 yards, put 9 out of 10 rounds in the center 10- ring, with the "flyer" in the 9-ring. Great shooting pistol!
That's awesome! Cheers Uncommon!
Great video I just got the p99c as
Best compact gun I have ever fired
Again great video
Thank you very much! The P99c sounds awesome. Cheers!
How are you liking the 99c? I'm thinking about selling my 43 for one. Stuck between the 99c and p365. Though I just got a Griffin armament threaded barrel with compensator for the g43 and like it. Decisions decisions...
My first firearm purchase was the PPS M2. I was sold just by the way it felt in my hand. It was like they used my hand to mold the grip. The Creed was so affordable I had to get it and it is a great shooter. I now have the PPQ Navy SD as well. Walther just builds great guns period.
The PPS M2 is a grea gun indeed and I agree about the ergos. Thank you and cheers!
I'm curious to see a comparison video between the CR920 combat version and the PPS-M2. They have more in common with warranties being that they both have lifetime warranties.
Good review. I owned both a PPS and G43. I sold both, but I'm thinking about buying one again, and this time it will be the M2.
Thank you Forum! Both are great for sure but I just love the PPS. It's a favorite in the collection. Cheers!
Thank you for making this tough call.
My pleasure! Thank you and cheers!
Never owned a glock, I have many of varying brands. Shot my many uncles glocks but never liked the feel. Question why does the trigger reset matter?
I have both. Imho. These are the two best single stacks one can get by a mile. The 8 round mag for the Walther makes it a great home defence gun. Really if you only can buy two guns. These would be it.
Glock and Walther is all I’ll own.
kelly j I agree the pps m2 is great but as for the Glock I’d say the shield 2.0 is way better btw if you could only buy two guns who the hell would just want two single stack pistols?
Not sure if you got an answer, and I don't want to go through the he comments. The PPS M2 does not have a part avalible to make the magazine release ambidextrous, or even left handed at all, at this time. That is why I went with the original version myself. All the same features, with the ambi mag release, and a bit nicer look in my opinion.
Alison Demzon thank you very much for that! Great feedback on a great gun. Cheers!
I too have the pps .40 and it's good to see most like it better than Glock. The pps classic has several features that the M2 doesn't that make the classic the better pick. It is hard to beat a German made gun, car or cake.
My favorite to carry - Walther PPS. My favorite to shoot - Walther PPQ. I've spent time with Glock, Sig, Springfield and Walther, but ones I really like to use and find myself going to back to are always Walther. The rest seem like work. The Walthers always seem like fun. Does that make sense? Weird how it works out differently for different people, but I'm glad we have so many choices. I've always wanted to give FN and Steyr a go...
Just at the range today.
Tried 8 different single stack 9's.
S&W, Glock, Ruger, Springfield, Taurus, Browning, Sig and Wather.
Bought the Walther.
Took it home and putt 100 rounds through it.
Wow! I'm impressed!
Great gun for the money.
Perfect iwb carry. Barely feel it there.
great video once again here....both are great guns but i recently purchased the Shield and i like it better than these two...now i did add Talon grips. i got the Shield for $280 plus i took advantage of the $75 rebate from Smith &Wesson....now that was a no brainer for me. the Shiel also came with 8rd mags...little more capacity
+Winston Gonzalez thanks Winston! I agree the deal on the shield is hard to pass up and it's got a sterling reputation. Great gun brother! Cheers brother
Great review as always brother. So here is my dilemma, I own the G43 already. I'm looking to scoop up a ppq or pps m2 because of the rebate that's going on. But... I also really like the p07 as I do not own a da/sa pistol yet. Also, I carry AIWB if that's helpful, help me choose KS!
Thanks Suwat! Great question and interesting dilemma. Which is more important, another small carry gun or a very different gun with a totally different method of operation. Both great guns for sure but it's tough to beat the p07. Do you really like and shoot the 43 well? May not need to change it if that's the case. Tough choice indeed! Keep me posted brother! Bring that question to the live stream Wednesday if you can. The other guys might weigh in as well. Cheers!
I just recently found a pps m2 at a pawnshop for a great price. I really am impressed with it
Thanks for the comment! That's awesome. It's a fantastic firearm for sure. Cheers!
I agree on your final conclusion! But I disagree about the ergonomics. The Walther's are far superior to the Glock's.
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
Hey KS , myself and my wife went to our local outdoor Range today on Labor Day 2018 and we took my wife's Walther PPS M2 . We've never used the 6 round Flush Fit Mag , and the first time she used it it did not feed the last round and the Slide stayed locked Back ! And I went um ! So I loaded it again and two mags later it did it again ! Then I used it and it did it two more times All the same exact way , it would not Feed the last/6th round . But Absolutely No Issues with the 7 and 8 round mags as we have the LE Model . The Firearm runs Flawless and we went through 200 rounds today ! Just the 6 round Mag issue with the last round not feeding ! I looked up on You Tube and found a Gentlemen who had the same issue not Feeding the last round with the Flush fit 6 round Mag ! He contacted Walther , they sent him a New Mag , and they told him his old Mag was fine and was in spec , but they sent him a New Mag ! And It did the New Mag did the same thing as the one he sent in to Walther ! He placed a peace of electrical tape on the Follower and used a snap cap and it loaded fine ! Sounds crazy but it would feed every time with just a thin peace of tape under the round on top of the Follower ! It didn't recommend this as the tape wore out over time and it really isn't a proper fix ! I didn't know if you still Have yours and if yours came with the 6 round flush fit Mag as my Wife's ! And if you've ever had this issue , or if you have ever heard of this yourself KS ? I'm going to contact Walther tomorrow and to inform them of the issue and see what they'll say and or if they'll do anything to resolve the Issue ! So I just thought I would ask you if you have heard and or experienced the same issue ? Have a Blessed Labor Day KS . Thanks. Steven 👋
Good morning Steven! That's a very unusual issue and the first I've heard of it. It's especially unusual since the other mags work fine. Although the tape seems to help, I agree.... it's not a proper fix and could fail. Hopefully Walther can get it sorted out as it sounds like the spring or follower are out of spec. Thank you and cheers!
@@KSGunGuy01 the name of the RUclips channel was Alcan and if you type in under search also you'll see were he shows how the last round on the 6 round Mag Fails to feed . He uses snap caps and the slide stay locked back with the last round still in the Mag . This is what happened to myself and my wife at the Range yesterday a total of 4 times . Weird ! But the 7 and 8 round mags worked just fine ! Gonna contact Walther either today or tomorrow and let them what transpired! Thanks KS for getting back too me . That Mag isn't to reassuring for my wife to carry . She loves the firearm , just the issue with that 6 round Mag. 👋 see u on the Chat this week if your gonna be there and have a Blessed day KS and stay safe 👍👍
@@KSGunGuy01 Hey KS , I just got off the Phone with Walther about the PPS M2 6 Round mag issue , and they tried telling me , they have now heard of these happening with several of the 6 round Mags not feeding the Last round ! They Claim it's due to people not having a Good Grip and or after lots of shooting having muscle Fatigue and due to heavy recoil, that only on the Flush fit mag may not Feed the Sixth Round !!!! They said after lots of practice and time it should get better !!!! And that they recommend that we should just use the seven and eight round extended Mags and that's what they recommend !!! And they told me there's "Nothing" they can do to Fix it !!! What ? I have never had a grip issue after years of shooting , and or an issue shooting any handgun were my pinky hangs off , and my wife has never had an issue either ! Never had any problems with a Shield , Glock , Ruger in regards to pinky hanging off and or not having a Good strong Grip / Purchase on a sub compact handgun ! Sounds like there's an issue considering they told me I should just use and carry the 7 and 8 round mag and not the 6 round Mag !!!! Then why sell a LE Edition with three mags if only Two of them will work properly ? And what good is a 6 round mag if only 5 rounds will fire ? I was surprised that's what the Man with Walther in there Parts and Repair Department told me !!! The Firearm is Awsome , and my Wife Absolutely loves it for Carry as do I , but this is disappointing that this is what they told me and how there addressing this now Known Problem !!!! Sounds like they need to fix the Mag issue , and not to tell people there's nothing we can do !!! I know most people will likely carry and do Carry the 7 and 8 round Mag , but the 6 round Mag should work or they can change it too a 5 round Mag , but then again , maybe only 4 rounds would fire and the 5th wouldn't Feed ! So weird , same Mag Manufacturer and the other mags all feed the last round just fine , but not the 6 round not so much !!! Sorry for the Rant but not Too happy about with what they Had too say ! So be it if there's an issue that needs to be addressed , but to say we know there's an issue and there's nothing we can do to Fix / resolve the problem , but instead , they say , practice and get a better Grip , and too Carry and use the 7 and 8 round Mag instead of the 6. Hey walther , I've got a suggestion , how about not Sell the PPS M2 with a 6 round Mag if it only feeds 5 rounds or Fix the problem !!!!!! At least offer or send me another seven round Mag So I can have three functioning mags that work since we payed for a LE model ! Or Maybe a Free / Complimentary Trucker Hat 😂 Take care KS and to the Gun Nation . Carry on , just not with a Walther PPS M2 6 Round Mag !!! 👎
Wow! Sounds like a customer service issue as much as a mechanical issue. That’s crazy!
@@KSGunGuy01 I've been pretty Blessed with not having any major Firearm issues with All of are purchases as of so far ! Myself and my wife are very selective with are choice of Firearms and we always want the best Tool for the Job considering are lifes and are Families lifes are on the Line ! We have are Fun Guns and range Guns of course , but are Carry / Home Defense Guns are No Joke and We expect the best working Firearm as Possible ! I know and understand that Any product can fail , but when we're dealing with Firearms and our lives and the lives of are loved ones A Manufacturer "Must" Address and. Fix "Any" Known issues as much as Humanly Possible ! Any subcompact Firearms are being specifically Targeted for concealed Carry , which means there being used to defend are lifes , and there is no excuse For a Firearm to Fail . That one Bullet could mean Life of Death ! But not making excuses whatsoever , The Firearm functions Flawlessly and So Far has been the best Carry Pistol for my wife next Too our Glocks which she very much loves. I'm just Disappointed in Walther making a Statement like " Don't use that Mag" , or. "there's Nothing we can do". Or blaming it on Fatigue after lots of shooting, or. a a bad grip ! Come on. " Walther " If our Firearm has a issue or any of its components At least make an attempt to resolve the Problem ! They didn't even offer for me to send in the Mag or to even offer a replacement Mag ! nope there blaming the end user and. or. "Heavy Recoil" with such a small firearm ! Well two out of three mags ain't so Bad I guess ! 😁 See you in the Three Guys Gun Chat this week KS . 👋. Take care anda Big Thank you for All the content and Info you provide too us in The Gun Nation Community !!!!! 👍👍
I've owned most of the popular single stacks including the Glock. I like them all. However, the Walther PPS m2 is the single stack on my belt. It's better quality, better shooter and reliable. The fit and finish is excellent. Imo, it is the best single stack polymer pistol today.
The PPS is an awesome gun for sure Stephen! I have always been impressed with it. Thank you and cheers!
How about the trigger pull?
Bought the PPS and love it. Have not shot the 43. Owned the glock42 just wanted something bigger than the.380. Great video
Thank you! The PS is a great gun indeed. Cheers!
Last year I bought the Walther. I had seen enough videos and read enough reviews then, which concurred with you. The only advantage to the Glock was the 3 ounces less in weight. But when I held the Walther, that was it for me.
That’s awesome Eric! Both are great but I agree, the ergos on the PPS are hard to beat. Thank you and cheers!
I had a Shield 2.0 and loved it. My sister got her concealed permit and needed a good reliable firearm she would carry and after I saw how well she handled it at the range I sold it to her for a steal to include three different holsters that were not cheap. I turned around and got the Walther PPS M2 and after I broke it in I have to say it's a AWESOME firearm that I love to both carry and shoot. I won't part with it. The only thing I suggest to anyone that buys one is to put over 300 rounds through it before you even rate it. This thing is solid and shooting it only butters it up and makes it smoother and believe it or not closes the groups you will shoot.
The (orange) Trijicon HD sights are a fantastic upgrade to the PPS M2. The rear sight is a bit sharp, though, so it may occasionally catch on your shirt or skin.
I live in Mass and the PPS M2 is not Mass compliant yet. I was able to purchase one from a shop who had it listed as the M1. I've had offers for double it's worth but still keeping it.
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
The pps m2 is actually the first pistol I picked up after I got back into firearms. I bought what I believe was the second pps m2 to arrive at cfss. It was a brand new platform and I walked into the store set on buying an m&p shield, cfss staff sold me on the pps, citing a superior trigger. I loved that pps, until I started getting into double stack compacts. I now have a shield(apex upgraded), wife got an xds, and a 938. If I MUST go single stack I will usually grab the 938. Over 5-7 yards I cannot command that pps with confidence. I have taken it back out a few times thinking, that after a significant amount of training under my belt, that I could connect with the pps, but I just can't seem to make it any better than a "bad breath" gun. 🙁
Now that 938 @ 15 yards...... surprisingly good!
That’s interesting Mike! I think it shows how each person connects with a different system. For me, the 938 simply didn’t work. It’s a beautiful gun and I get why so many love it, I just couldn’t get into it. That said, I really dig the PPS. Isn’t it greta that we have so many choices! Hope to see you at the range soon brother!
I like both but agree the m2 is a better pistol overall.
I must say I agree Max! Thank you for sharing brother. Cheers!
Max lighter trigger pull? Accurate and reliable?
I got to shoot the PPS M2 at a range expo this summer. I was really impressed with the ergonomics and the accuracy. I don't know why, but I shoot it better than any other pistol I have tried. I didn't notice any issues with the trigger either. When you can pick one up for under $300 after rebate, I gotta get one. I took advantage of the Shield rebates too; got a 9 in FDE and a 40 in black. Love them too.
That's awesome Martin! I agree, it's a fantastic shooter, especially for its size. Thank you and cheers!
just bought one for $300 PPS M2
Enjoyed your review. Own a Walther (S&W) PPK/S 380 and a SIG P232 380, but looking for something that might be better for a CCW. Been looking at the Walther and the Glock. Been hearing about Glocks for years. Glock, this, Glock that, Glock, Glock, Glock. I find the Glock looks a bit too utilitarian, personally. The PPS M2 seems to be well liked, and since it's actually currently available, looks like I'll be adding it to my arsenal.
I think the Glock needs some type of grip "enhancement" to shoot it well. I have tried the Ghost connector= had some malfunctions....back to OEM (mine is NOT 5lb...feels 7-8. Extended mags, with OEM spring and new larger springs have both caused malfunctions.... SO, mine is back all stock. BTW the finish on my austrian G is horrible (rusts). The Walther feels nicer, shoots better BUT when you do rapid magazine changes= your hand will probably get bitten...
Thank you for the comments! That's frustrating that you've had issues with aftermarket parts and the finish! It's the drawback to enhancing a firearm I guess. I haven't noticed the bite from mag changes but I can see that happening in certain situations. Cheers!
PPS all the way 🤘
Just bought a PPS M2. Very good shooting gun.
Great video. I too am a glock guy as my friends would say but I love the pps m2 and think it has a lot of advantages out of the box that the 43 does not have out of the box. About the only advantage the 43 has is all of the after market options that the pps doesn't have. But I'd say the PPSm2 is the overall winner too.
Thank you Adam! I agree, both are great guns but the PPS continues to impress. I agree about the aftermarket options for the Glock though. Cheers!
Another Glock Bites the dust! 😂 just joking, well done review! #CZM4L Nice mention of the Chat as well. Carry On Brother!
Haha! Barely bit the dust this time. Cheers Big J!
Totally agree with you.
My dealer had a walther pps m2 in the case clearance priced for $399.99, and with the bucket sale (15% off anything that fits inside one of their 5 gallon buckets) the price dropped to $339. Couldn't pass that deal up. Great ergonomics, and carries very well. Nice comparison video as always.
That’s awesome! They are great guns indeed. Thank you and cheers!
Never had an opportunity to shoot the PPS, but I used to own a 43 and a Shield. I liked them both, but decided to move away from single stack for carry. I wouldn't, however, pass up a chance to shoot a PPS in the future though as it looks like a worthy option in that single stack category.
Thanks Erazimoth! I highly recommend giving one a go, especially if you like PPQs and such. Cheers!
I have the PPS M2. I've run quite a bit of 115gr and 124gr ammo through it and it shoots a good bit softer than it should for it's size because of the extra few ounces. I'll definitely be keeping my Walther!
That's awesome! I agree, it's deceptively soft shooting for its size. Cheers!
This Walther is so underrated. Put up a single stack 9mm lineup and invite some people who are new to pistols and I bet most would pick this. I carry this over my shield, but usually carry my p365 because more ammo is better and it's smaller.
2024 and rocking a walther pps m2 for summer carry.
Had a Shield which had multiple issues. Sent that back to S&W within first week, and 8 weeks later they sent it back with nothing fixed. Walther PPS M2 is my EDC and never looked back. Thing is awesome!
Glock, Sig, and Walther are the top affordable gun brands.
Well said! Thank you and cheers!
Aside from the fact i don't carrying single stack firearms anymore, i'd go with the PPS. My buddy has the 43 and it's a good gun, but the PPS has better options all around(as pointed out in the video).That being said, I have my G26 in my carry rotation ...why would i need either of these two? ;) Good stuff KS!
Thanks CWB! The 26 is an awesome option. It was one of my favorites for years. Nothing like running the 26 with the 33 round mag at the range! Agreed though, the PPS is pretty great too. Cheers and hopefully see you Wednesday brother!
Price points and value for your dollar?
Love my pps M2 Le
That's awesome Aaron! Me too. Cheers!
Good video. That is a tough choice, but I too would take the PPS.
Thanks Phil! Great minds think alike. Cheers!
I really enjoy your videos. I only watch yours and the honest outlaw the rest is all crap as far as I'm concerned have a great day thanks for getting back to me Dwight
+Dwight Bernheimer thank you so much Dwight! That made my day brother. Cheers!
Dwight Bernheimer AGREED!!🤔
That's good to know, I think KSGunGuy makes great videos as well, not to sure about me lol. Not to mention he has great taste in guns.
Thanks brother! Good to see you man!
Thanks Honest! I appreciate you stopping by man! Back at ya
I am a Walther fan as well but have many other pistols including my baby "Sig 226" but I tend to shot the Walther much better.
I carry the PPS every day and it has never jammed on me.
There is a level of comfort that this pistol brings me and will keep on carrying this gun.
The low capacity magazine doesn't really bother me because you really only need 1 and you have to ask yourself, are you really Jack Bauer?
You video was spot on and appreciated your opinion about the PPS.
Thank you very much Robert! That 226 sounds very cool. I agree about the PPS giving a certain level of comfort. Cheers!
Just picked up the PPS today, it was between the PPS, Glock 43 and the XDS. i went with the PPS mod 2 LE because of the ergonomics the extra mag and the night sights. all 3 are great guns though. for EDC. can't wait to ta put my first 100 through it.
Congrats! That's awesome man. I think you'll really enjoy it! Thank you and cheers
If you had a apex trigger on shield would you like it better than both these
To be honest I like the Shield 2.0 better than both of those even with a stock trigger. Thank you and cheers!
Obviously the G43. They are so good I own two. That isn't really the reason why but they are good guns. The real reason is I couldn't find one in FDE and after a year of owning a plain old black one I found an FDE and immediately bought it lol.
Whatever Wicked, you double fist it... admit it! Haha. That would rock. Two g43s tucked inside the waistband. Thanks as always and cheers brother!
Don't think I haven't.
+WickedSensation haha! Nice
WickedSensation I have the G42 in FDE...I want the G43 in it as well...just haven't run across one yet.
It's a great gun Gerald. I recommend it!
great trigger discipline.
Thank you very much! Cheers
I started my single stack journey with a G43. Long story short I came to the same conclusion as you. Love my PPS M2. Only thing that would do better is the P225-A1.
That's awesome Bamboo! Although the G43 is a great gun, there is something really fantastic about the PPS. Thank you and cheers!