Interesting Reaction To Styx- Renegade
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There’s a real difference between songs the Dennis DeYoung wrote and those that Tommy Shaw wrote. A good mix and it was all good. The albums “Pieces of Eight” and “Grand Illusion” are masterpieces.
Oh yeah...massive difference.
Dennis DeYoung is the guy who turned "Renegade" from what was originally a slow, prodding, bluesy song from Tommy Shaw into a rock song. The version we hear and love today is because of Dennis. They collaborated on each other's songs and worked together to create incredible music.
@@Vaelsung1 no denying the dudes talent...just sayin personally, Roboto sucked. "Paradise" wasn't a bad album...hell, I've still got the tour shirt somewhere I think. I was just young, and went a different direction.
I whole heartedly agree, absolute masterpieces...one of my top ten favorites
JY had a completely different style as well
This is one of the best songs that Styx does. A killer tune with great rhythm. Glad you chose this.
my musical journey started with this album. i was 5 years old. my sister came home with the vynil as soon as it was released. i still have it. this album was released on the 1 september 1978.
The 70s, in my opinion, was the best decade for music. A lot of great music, in all genres, was created in this decade. I am also a huge funk music lover.
Agree completely.
You are correct, the 70s had the greatest rock songs ever written in one decade.
I can't just say the '70s as I really think it is a period starting around '67 or '68 and running until '76-'77. I am sitting here listing to Blind Faith's "Can't Find My Way Home" as I type this and that was 1969 so if '69 ain't in I'm out. 😁😁
@@sam21462 I am not a fan of what most people consider the sound of the “60’s”, but we can definitely say that some bands were ahead of their time! 🤣🤣 Love that song, BTW!
@@melissawilcox5285 - Oh believe me I am right there with you, hell I don't even really care for The Beatles and I sort of hate Elvis. I just think it is a mistake that we all make, believing that life actually pays attention to the artificial construct that we call a decade.
Lest we forget, the "70's" also gave us way way too much disco. 😱
Tommy Shaw is so underrated, he and/or Styx should be in the bogus Rock hall of fame.
R&R HOF is a joke...and a bad one at that.
@@drew65sep The two hall of fames are a joke R&R and County (more so R&R). At least country stays country, but they ignore their legends...where as the R&R puts any music category in there...RAP? RIGHT!
@@jeremiahrose4681 absolutely...and yet again, Priest and Maiden didn't make the cut. So, the admission a HOF official years ago that Priest and Maiden would "NEVER" be inducted is still alive and well. (check out Rush's Alex Lifeson's acceptance speach. It's funny as hell, and also a direct shot at the R&R HOF) But, I see Journey was finally inducted after much too long of a wait.
@@drew65sep Right, I have to listen to it. Why Isn't any for of DIO in?
@@jeremiahrose4681 Dio was a monster in almost all of his efforts...and I'm an idiot for not mentioning him, or any of the bands he fronted over the years.
Trivia time. When the US invaded Panama in Dec 1989 and Manuel Noriega took refuge in the the Vatican embassy in Panama City. The US troops surrounded the embassy and played rock music, often this song very loud until he gave up.
lol
Honestly, I like that you didn't edit it out. Far too many times we see the final version, it's nice to see the raw cut! TY
Damn T never “heard” the Zep similarity before…good pick up
This song is played at every Pittsburgh Steelers home games
Here we go #Steelers
During time out between the 3rd & 4th quarter. Here We Go!
Here we go!!
Bro, you have got the ears!!
Yes, Styx was influenced by Zeppelin, and the current scene. Michael was a powerhouse in this his early solo career.
Great musicians, replicate, in their own interpretations, the Greats that preceeded them, and were around them.
Crystal Ball, Suite Madame Blue, Lights, Borrowed Time, Snowblind, The Best of Times, Great White Hope, Blue Collar Man, Pieces of Eight, Queen of Spades, Man in the Wilderness, Castle Walls, Miss America.
They have a ton of other greats cuts, but personally, I think this list covers the spectrum of their catalogue pretty well.
From Styx, check out You Need Love, Grove Of Eglantine, Man In The Wilderness, Queen Of Spades, Crystal Ball, Suite Madam Blue, Fooling Yourself, Too Much Time On My Hands, Blue Collar Man, Rockin The Paradise, Light Up, Snowblind
It was pretty great growing up with Journey, Rush, Styx, VH, GnR...Early Styx is great, You'll have to do Paradise Theater, but that is a concept album that is best listened to all at once...
Pieces of Eight is also a concept album.
in the Too MUch Time on my hands reaction I recommended they do the Best of Times , but that whole Paradise Theater album is pretty amazing. The Cover art is so cool too.
@@meganparsons9106 Rocklin the Paradise is one of their best but underrated songs IMO
I was born in 69. One of my sisters would take my on the cruise in our California town and she’d play this on the 8 track in her trans am. It was a magical era in America...
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Dude, I love you working it out on screen.
I turn 58 in 2 days from today and I have heard all these songs for decades but until you mentioned it, I never saw the connection between Styx and Led Zeppelin! It what I love about watching Reaction videos - you never really fully experience something until you get someone else's experience from it.
Thanks, T.
This is my favourite Styx song. Back then groups would inspire and influence each other. Trampled under foot was inspired by Steve Wonder's Supersition. Rock had so many influences which is one of the reasons why it was so interesting. Cheers
Kudos for being able to name ( and cite ) Zep's Trampled Under Foot right off the top of your head. That's damned impressive! I grew up in the Zeppelin Capital of Canada ( Scarborough, Ontario, other would argue but they would be wrong ) and most of the people I know couldn't even name that song. Well Done.
And Heinz Field goes crazy! For your next STYX song how about Suite Madam Blue?
1979 sounds right. This is one of the songs we used to ride around harmonizing to. When all those voices came in at the beginning I saw your eyes light up. These guys know how to harmonize!
When you hear their voices separately, you might not think they could harmonize this well, but they sure did.
Song is so very high school for me.
This album came out in 1978. Cornerstone was '79.
Dude, you have an amazing ear for this! I find myself doing the same thing in songs and its always so fun to dive in and find the influences through the years.
Check out "Come Sail Away" that's The Jam!
Edit: Nice ear, Dude! As soon as u said it sounds like zeppelin, l thought of trampled under foot, right away then you played it.. Sick! Loll
Absolutely! "Come Sail Away" is also Dennis DeYoung's personal choice for the song that best represents the musical diversity of Styx all in one song. Please use the 6 minute "album version" and not the singles/official video version which removes the iconic instrumental/middle section of the song. I really hope you'll react to this one!
I just love the drumming in this.
The one singing lead on this song is Tommy Shaw . Dude you have to check out the Damn Yankees. They formed in the 90’s. It had Tommy Shaw,Jack Blades from Night Ranger and Ted Nugent.Dude you have to listen to High Enough from them .
Tommy Shaw only sang the Capella at the beginning, then Dennis De Young took over.
Tommy Shaw only sang the Capella at the beginning, then Dennis De Young took over from there.
@@kimberlycampbell8355 oh wow all this time I thought it was Shaw!
@@tammiec4937 I did too until recently when I discussed it with my brother and I looked it up.
Tommy Shaw does sing the entire song. Dennis just comes in with harmonies.
I heard the similarities, too. Good catch!
If you want to take a Styx journey, listen to the full album Paradise Theater 🎭🎭🎭
I guess it's sort of a concept album...it flows really well as an entire story.
It's got some really great songs on it. All of it is great, actually. 😁😁🔥🔥
You're kind of refreshing bro. You have an amazing memory to remember and relate all those different songs together!! Thank for sharing!!
What an ear you got, great reaction, I loved it. Picking up songs left and right like that, that's awesome.
The Pittsburgh Steelers have used this song for a number of years in stadium when the defense needs a big stop to pump up the crowd and defense. The entire stadium erupts. Have even had Styx come in to perform it live.
Still do
Great point about the funk element creeping in in the late '70s. Our h.s. marching band used the beat of this song for a drum cadence.
Renegade has been my top favorite from this band since I first heard it in the 6th grade (waaaay back in 1978). Another one that Tommy Shaw sings on is "Too Much Time On My Hands" (my 2nd favorite song from Styx). I've always preferred his voice over Dennis DeYoung's... A few other favorites are - Don't Let It End, Show Me The Way, Babe, Best of Times, & Lady. I saw them in concert once & they end every show with this song. The place was dead quiet during the Acapella part, but as soon as the beat dropped, the entire stadium full of people were on their feet & dancing, singing along, clapping, & stomping their feet during the chanting to the heavy drum beats. It was so loud that you could barely hear the band - LOL!
You should react to “ High Enough” by Damn Yankees! A super group with Tommy Shaw, Ted Nugent, and Jack Blades from Night Ranger. The harmony is out of this world
Tommy and Jack were destined to sing together. Their voices together is pure magic
@@jamestate5059 absolutely! Sometimes it’s hard too tell who’s who,,, and then you realize it doesn’t matter because they are both killing it!
@@volbeatrules6528 its like they have the same voice. Its just Tommy has the higher range while Jack can get deeper. They compliment each other perfectly
@@jamestate5059 indeed!
Dennis DeYoung who is in his 70’s still sound great. Saw him perform a few years back .. his band sounded just like Styx, you wouldn’t know it wasn’t. Great show👍🏻
Love ❤ Styx ...
Come sail away
Lady
Babe
The Best of Times
Grand Illusion
Styx Blue Collar Man
Styx and Journey were my shows and they got me into Hard Rock and Metal. When Styx played Miss America Live I was Amazed, so good.
Yes! My two favorite bands of alltime!!💗😁💗
Snowblind is a heavy Styx song!!T you'll love it!
The entire "Grand Illusion" album. Listen to it start to finish....you won't be sorry. Not a single bad song on the album.
❤Tommy Shaw❤ Tommy did an excellent version of this song in an episode of Live from Daryl's House.
Damn Yankees did a killer version of this song on tour
I clicked like on this as soon as you said you wouldn't edit the video, that that is how you do reaction videos 🤘
Lol
A great Styx song to crank is Queen of Spades!!!
As soon as you said Zeppelin, I heard Trampled Underfoot! Wow! I Never would’ve picked that out myself. You are brilliant.
This group got their start in Montgomery AL. Tommy Shaw the lead singer and I both graduated in the same HS class
Great reaction. Have always loved Styx since I was a kid. One of my all time favorites is Rocking the Paradise. Really hope you’ll do a reaction to it.
The beginning of the song reminds me of the renegade hiding from the law. You can hear his heart beating as he tries to remain silent and undetected. Then all the instruments kick in when he is discovered and takes off running for his life.
You'll hear this song at least once at every Pittsburgh Steelers football game. It is basically our theme song.
Lorelei was the first song I ever heard by them. Lady is incredible. Goosebump inducing lol Suite Madame Blue is one song that hasn't been reacted to very much at all and it's incredible.
I got to see Styx and REO Speedwagon live back in 2009. What an amazing show! A lot of energy from the bands and the crowd. I was one of the younger attendees and really wasnt really expecting all that. I been a fan of both bands since
I saw Styx 4 times in their hay day in the late 70's and 80's...but I also saw that same show you saw with REO in 2013...they were even better in 13...glad your a fan...
Double shot of Chicago rock! 🎸🎸
You're also noticing that songs back then were more commonly changing time signatures in-song, or were generally using rarer time signatures; or if a song has a band placing the accent on a different count, or if there's a notable key change--if any of those things is the same in another song (which is mathematically inevitable), you'll often note the similarity. Oh, and that drop section near the end of the song that you really liked? Imagine what the audience did during that section. It was a great song to see live.
How did it ever change from 4/4, or key change? Drop section? Do you even know what you're talking about? I saw Styx several times and I never saw a pit or people go nuts. It was the 70's. The root note of the whole song is G. It may go to D and C but returns to G. 8th notes in G at the end does not mean a drop.
@@ronhanisco8697 Sorry for the confusion--I was referring to all of his reviews, not this particular one. And they do shift the accent on this, and to people who don't know time signatures, that often feels like it might be a time change. I never said anything about a pit so I'm not sure where you got that from. If you've seen them then you know they were nothing like the sort of bands that saw pits emerge. As for the 'drop;' most people I know, and the ones I read in music magazines or see on interviews, use that to refer to a feature of a composition, not a lowering of the notes played. But again, my apologies for not being clearer because it was genuinely ambiguous and your reading was not impossible. So in reality, other than you misunderstanding my intent, I agree with everything you said.
Great reaction! I love that you are looking stuff up and checking things out.
I love funk. And I love rock. Good reaction
GREAT reaction to a GREAT song. I loved how you reviewed this. I suggest Prelude 12 leading into Suite Madame Blue off of the Styx Equinox album. GREAT job & thanks for playing Renegade.
Styx was considered more of a Prog Rock band, they could Rock but they experimented.
A little trivia of this song. The Pittsburgh Steelers play this as a theme song stoll during breaks and halftime
I loved how you injected Zeppelin into this! But Styx stands on their own. They are a great band!
This was such a slapper. I've heard it dozens of times and it always makes you move.
In the late 70's STYX was the hottest band in the United States. Yes, this song premiered on WNEW-FM, New York, in 1979. I was 27 years old, thank God. I got in my car, drove to the nearby record store in Brooklyn, and bought the album.
Pittsburgh Steeler fans no this song well, at least the first 2 minutes. I do here the similarity to Trampled Under Foot, so I don't think you're off your rocker, not yet anyway.
Excellent analysis! All rock in from the fifties to the nineties was a constant folding in of different influences of other genres and artists.
Check out Styx - Snowblind
Come Sail Away is probably what they are most known for.
You should react to Blackfoot's, "Highway Song", you won't be disappointed!
I'm probably gonna get flamed but Styx, Yes, and Asia. They are sorta the trifecta of this type of sound. They all had a similar pop prog rock style of the time.
Brad, on this one you are spot on... and Tommy Shaw does a very different thing, which you picked up on early... the mimicking of the guitar going right along with the vocals is just genius, but Mr. Shaw (in my opinion) shows of genius in his writing, and this is a good example. Just to let you know... Dennis Young sings and writes most of the ballades which Styx is simply great at, but for my liking, Tommy's (and JY) both bring that wonderful 'hard edge' to Styx and I just love it. Don't ever kid yourself, everyone in this band are top-level musicians. There is no one in the band that are just good at their instruments; you've got five men that are all supremely schooled and gifted musicians. My 2 cents... Marty
Tommy can still sing like this. Saw them live 3 years ago and they were amazing!
huge Styx fan and NEVER picked up on the Zepplin vibes until you played it. Great ears!
I love watching your reaction. The 70s had such great music.
Thx T. That was a real reaction. Rock on…
Good ear mate ! I never would have thought like you ! Very thoughtful reaction 💜😎
"Come Sail Away" is a good song but I know that song was sort of known as a cheesy and corny ballad and to a certain degree it is sort of a cheesy and corny ballad but for some crazy reason I still really like that song!! 😃
Your ear is AMAZING!!! Just subbed. Love your reaction!!
Crystal Ball 🔮 is my favorite!!! I bought a Takamine 12 string just to play that song 🎵
Mine too.
I have seen Styx and blue oyster cult several times here on the west coast. BÖC 3 weeks ago. They are still amazing.
Snow Blind, Miss America, Queen of Spades, Suite Madame Blue, these are some of my favorites by Styx but the list goes on.
From the same time period, you've got to do Train, Train by Blackfoot.
Shorty Medlock (1912-1982) wrote the song and played harmonica.
His grandson, Ricky, played lead guitar and sang lead. Who gets to record a Top 20 rock hit with their grandpa??!!
Interestingly, Ricky Medlock has served two stints with Lynyrd Skynyrd, 1971-1973 and 1996-present.
Great reaction and ears!
I always felt like Blackfoot was way underrated. IMO the 70's was the greatest time for music as there were all these different bands experimenting with this sound called rock n roll. The 60's started it but the 70's is when we really start to hear what's possible. Love 70's rock!!!
I think that Dennis DeYoung wanted to take the band in a new direction but I don't think that the other members wanted to go that way.
Blue Collar Man is also a great song.
Since I was about five years old, I have saying to everything on the radio. I’ve performed in concert choir in high school. I’ve directed church choirs. I have tried out for traveling musicals. Bottom line is I love singing. When I was in high school my god sister and I used to ride around in my car listening to Styx. She and I would harmonize to the different songs. I love their music always have and always well!
also seen Styx live with Reo Speedwagon. My then 15 yr old son came with us but was not happy. Only reason he went they were playing at an amusement park too. He caught the drum stick of the drummer of REO Speedwagon.. He has a shirt that said Renagade now and walking out he turned to my husband and I .. Mom those old guys can rock LOL. I laughed and cried a little .. Laughed because he got to enjoy the music I grew up with but cried because he called them old meaning I am old too LOL
Yes there was an influence you can hear in the rhythm section in particular. One term I heard for Styx’s music back in the 70s by a radio dj was “Opera Rock” and I’ve always thought it was a great description of their work.
I really enjoyed your mental journey to figure out their influence here. You were right on the money. Tommy Shaw was also in the band the Damn Yankees. Give 'Coming of Age' and 'High Enough' a listen by them! The band Damn Yankees was Shaw, Jack Blades (Night Ranger), and Ted Nugent!
Check out the Pittsburgh Steelers’ game time pouring onto the field to this tune. Lit!!!
This is the best STYKS song. #2 blue caller man. #3 come sail away .#4 Lady.
I was listening to this when I was deployed to Okinawa in 1979!
Great ears, that was genius!!.
I'm the same when it comes to music.
You're brilliant, great reaction!.
At the beginning you mentioned listening to Mr. Roboto; that came from the album 'Kilroy Was Here', Styx's attempt to do a rock opera album, which was popular for groups to attempt to do in the 60's and 70's, starting I think with The Who's 'Tommy'. You have to hear the album start to finish (and read the 'story' on the album cover) to understand the tale that they are trying to tell. Most people just heard a couple of songs on the radio, so did not get the underlying theme of it all.
Damn, good ear on the zeppelin song. I always thought it had that same kind of sound back in the 70's.
Styx is great.
Queen of Spades is a banger from this album
Styx was the sh*t back in the 80s. Amazing harmonies, great guitar work!
I recommend:
Sweet Madame Blue
Fooling Yourself
Blue Collar Man
I was introduced to this song on the movie Billy madison played by Adam sandler
O'doyle rules!!!!
Blue collar man by Styx
1977 in Texas this song was number one on the radio.
"Half Penny Two Penny" and "Miss America" are a couple of really good songs by the third singer in the band, James Young. His songs tend to be a little harder and darker.
Have seen them in concert over 10 times, definitely released in 79.
Liked this before you even started!
Love this!!!
This has been my jam since the summer of 1979 baby.
The 70’s was the battle between disco and rock music. What your hearing is a crossover between the two.
your smile and the head bob says it all!!! : )
Tommy Shaw is the lead singer, lead guitarist + writer here. 🎸
This song has Styx in the peak years. 😃
I am glad that you got curious as to the similarity with Led Zeppelin.
Here is something to ponder: some Styx songs resemble Queen songs. 🤯
Babe was released 1 year after Renegade was released.
In 1990, Tommy Shaw formed Damn Yankees with Ted Nugent + Jack Blades.
Dennis DeYoung wants to reunite, but Tommy + company say no.
This is similar to Peter Cetera vs members of Chicago.
Suggested next Styx song with Tommy as lead singer: Blue Collar Man.
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Suggested Damn Yankees song: High Enough. 🎸
"Blue Collar Man", "Castle Walls", "Come Sail Away", "Crystal Ball", "Lady", "Man in the Wilderness", "Suite Madam Blue".... and one that few know about and is a different Styx song "Boat on the River"... this list should get you started
I hear a lot more of Zeppelin then Jackson in this but I had never noticed before now. Great find! Renegade and Blue Collar Man are my favorite Styx songs.