Milwaukee M18 REDLITHIUM FORGE 6.0 Ah Battery Pack Challenge and Testing
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
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Milwaukee claims that the M18 REDLITHIUM FORGE XC6.0 Battery Pack delivers HIGH OUTPUT 12.0Ah power in a smaller size. This test seems to show it delivers more than the 12Ah battery does! With the correct charger, the FORGE 6.0Ah can 15-minute supercharge up to 80%. Milwaukee claims this battery to be the most powerful, fastest charging, and longest-life battery in the lineup. 
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Great testing. The HD12 starting voltage is fairly normal, they just dont like to charge like other M18 batteries do. Often to their eventual determent. Just another benefit of the FORGE, you dont have to buy an HD12.0 which we're on our 3rd (for high demand tools, not runtime focused tools).
We don't need power we have it we need run time 🎉
@@aetorres7422 They why you here watching a 6Ah battery be tested? :D
My 12ho get around 20.8 volt when fully charged
I don’t know. I recently heard the Forge has the same output as a 12.0 but a lot less runtime than the 12.0, which is very deceiving. So if this is correct and you need runtime, the 12.0 is the way to go
@AAP0000 it's in the name. 12ah vs 6ah of capacity
Brian I’ve been waiting on your review of this battery since it was announced. Nobody puts the drop off and recovery data out there like this. I always appreciate the honest truth about these. It looks like this one will be worth the price tag.
What is nice about the forge battery I seen was how well it performed but how freaking fast it recovered. That means more cuts and more work done in a certain amount of time. Can't wait to get my hands on one and put it in the field. Also can't wait till the next year for the new tablets batteries there releasing !
I’m concerned about Milwaukee’s use of lipo battery in these new forge batteries. Coming from the RC world, lipo batteries need carefully maintenance to ensure long life. The can’t be discharged too low or stored at full capacity for a long. They also need to be balanced charge too. The other issue with lipo batteries is that the have the likelihood to puff up if they are over discharge. Not sure what Milwaukee is doing to address these downfalls with using lipo batteries.
I TESTED my ONE HANDED MILWAUKEE M18 fuel RICIP SAW and used the FORGE BATTERY it was soo cool but the saw got so hot in the 30 mins it used i could not even change the Blade
Thanks, can’t wait to pick a couple up
The 8.0 is not even as good as the 6.0 due to the cells. Im pretty sure you already knew that though.
Yep you're right !
Brian
there is a major complain from bunch of customers saying this forge cut out when under load from grinders to multi tools high speed
Also verified that it cuts power
@jaycarneygiants You’re right on target with the thoughts that the 8ah being a poor choice of battery vs the xc6ah with 21700s ( a poor choice relative to the others like the 12 or xc6.0 forge 6.0 and imo a really poor choice for high power draw tools. I’ve personally seen the 2826-20 top handle 14” chainsaw kill two of the (48-11-1880) xc8.0 AH batteries, out of warranty of course but the only and both times it happened the batteries were used on the same tool and it’s been the only tool to do something like this. I also own and regularly use the 2727-20 16” saw with an 18” bar regularly and have never had that issue…I figured the battery had just been drained below the LV cutoff but the odd thing is that the voltage on the pack is still 18.5v and the individual strings of cells are all still balanced within .3v so my guess would be either the tool pulled to much current and overloaded the pathway and possibly either shorted something out and fried something on the board or what I’m not sure and am not an expert but I’m also unsure because dr left hand thread has a video showing a similar situation and said whenever he seen that he’s had to replace the board on em so I’m not sure I also seen a few arborists using the same saw complaining about the 8s and having issues with the 8ah specifically…it’s always the eight or 9s with issues ime
Now if you can test the FORGE vs FLEX STACKED LITHIUM VS 5 amp POWER STACK and see who keeps the most power and when I get my FORGE BATTERY going to do a winter test below Zero all 3 batteries face off to see who can withstand the temps
TORQUE TEST CHANEL did the cold test and they are very bad in the cold
@@OUTILSCLIPSQC I did a test on both the FLEX STACKED LITHIUM and DEWALT 5 AMP POWER STACK but I will test them outside in the BELOW Zero weather line I have done all winter here in Illinois I don't test inside so all my results outside no room in my Garage
This was a very informative video! Thank you!
I don't know because I got to Milwaukee rotary polisher and it lasts longer with the 6ah HO then the Forge
It's an interesting test for sure. I would like to see how the forge performs in the Milwaukee Table Saw.
Milwaukee did it right againt ! Nice tech .
You said in the video that the 12 ah battery you were testing wasn’t high output but then why does it say high output on it?
Im tempted to try it on a couple of rip cuts on a fuel 7-1/4 circular saw to see how well it performs against the 12.0HO battery. And how many id need to run through a whole day 🤔
only problem is the cost. price of one is the price of 2- 6.0 High Outputs
I have flex sidewinder with the 10ah she is a beast cut fast but the motor will stop due to overheating and the led flash, but the 10ah stack i can't overheated it, my milwaukee 2732 the motor will not overheated but the batterie does, i when doing hard rip keep 2 batterie near me, so with the forge this is a game changer if they don't overheated
Hey workshopaddict, how come you don't collab with toolshow? You have great content and could benefit from some more exposure. You are anong the most honest tooltesters I see, and I appreciate that you mainly stick with pro brands. Thank you for your reviews!
I think they choose who they want to put on their show. I could benefit from a lot of things, but they all come with a catch. If I want to remain honest, I can't go big.
@@WorkshopAddictdamn bro, keep it up! It'll come around. 🎉 stick to your morals and honesty.
Tabless cells are coming to the market now as well and they will replace pouch cells. They will last longer then pouch cells they are better designed technology better heat management and around the same output of energy.
It's nice to see that the Forge platform is much more than just a gimmick.
Too bad I can't say the same for the M12 platform.
What's the gimmick exactly? I don't see a gimmick in having the smallest form factor tools possible. Being an electrician I will never go back to hanging a fat, clunky, and heavier M18 or similar impact driver off my belt all day. Or imagine they only had M18 ratchets instead of the M12 with CP batteries 😂 I would hate to try getting into a tight cabinet to reach some insane pocket hole with a M18 version of the installation driver
I love my m12 tools
@@onikwa Try using the M12 vacuum, or multi-tool for example, without having to replace the battery after every 5-10 minutes of combined off-and-on use. You can't, because the battery platform is meant only for spot-use, tiny odd jobs, etc. The M18 platform doesn't have that issue. Yet they still market the M12 line toward career tradesmen who work full days, every day. Gimmick at best, false advertising at worst.
@@kevinlynch2915 I like them, too. But the battery platform is a joke, unless you only need to use them for a few seconds at a time and a few times per day.
@@d.a.9937 not a chance, the m12 line of tools is very good... I'd say it's probably the user that doesn't get it. Learn the proper tool to use for the job at hand!!
What would be your recommendation for the Milwaukee inflator. The forge or hd 12. Inflator is used for airing back up when offroad so I do need considerable runtime to inflate sometime several mud tires
I love my inflator. Best thing I ever bought
The new Forge 12.0 are coming out soon. But what im gathering is the 12HD has longer runtime, so thats what id go with if you dont feel like waiting
J'ai tester la forge avec tout les outils milwaukee actuelle, banc de scie , sidewinder gen2 , rear handle , buffeur 6", chainsaw top handle 12", chainsaw 16" , non la batterie ne chauffe pas !! Je pense vraiment que c'est la meilleur batterie toute marque confondue sur le marché, avec la sidewinder jai deligner du 4x4 pleine profondeur de coupe et j'ai vider la batterie et elle na pas chauffer, on peut sentir le torque aussi, elle est plus puissante que la 12
Mais elle a tu durée plus long que la 12?
Longest lasting? Milwaukee doesn’t mention that at all.
Being a forklift mechanic , do u think that I would benefit from this ? Mostly use a mid torque, sometimes a high torque impact is needed. The HO 6ah seems to give out more beans than the 8ah as well as the 12ah.....
Biggest advantage of the forge line is that you get 80% battery on two of them at a time in 15 minutes using the super charger. Essentially you'll always be at max on a battery without having to change often so high power and fast recovery
CAT graphene seem to be king of the cordless tool brand.
Think so? I don’t see anyone using it? Nor do I see any popular tool enthusiasts posting videos on it. Must not matter bud.
Man, your tools look a lot cleaner than mine. How do you keep them that clean?
Wd40
The forge battery has made the power wheels faster.
When will they come out with their forge 12.0?
Just bought one for $100. Didn't take that long to charge on a rapid charger
How do you think this would do in the vacuums? Would it last longer than the HO 6.0? Compare to the 12.0
6Ah is 6AH. This battery will last exactly the same amount of time in the vacuum as a 6Ah XC would.
@@WorkshopAddict Isn't that against what Milwaukee is saying? I thought they're saying the forge 6ah Forge would equal a 12ah high output...
@@cchavezjr7Milwaukee is comparing power output, meaning that it will give the same performance as a 12 Ah. Runtime is different than performance. Runtime is how long it will last. The 6 Ah will not run as long as the 12 Amp, but it can perform as well or better, in terms of power.
@@cchavezjr7Milwaukee doesn’t say anything about runtime anywhere.
@@danlux4954 sure they do, with the ah designation
I have all Dewalt tools. It seems like Milwaukee did a better job on the Forge than Dewalt did on the Power Stack.
Milwaukee state that the 6.0 forge is on part with the 12HO , dewalt seem to compared the 5 PS to the 5 cylindrical
I disagree Bender. Dewalt PS provided much more power than the 5.0 and I proved that manly times over.
@@WorkshopAddictok, but you can't put the stack on the flexvolt so its bad, but i am sure dewalt will introduced soon flexvolt pack tabless like makita just recently did
@@OUTILSCLIPSQCI talked to a Dewalt rep some time ago, and he said they will come out with 3,5 ah ps. I think he also mentioned 18ah flexvolt
Dewalt is a business company
They said themselves
where Milwaukee listen to customers like what the pro uses every day.
Thanks!
Thank you!
You need to hang a weight to give constant pressure if you want reliable numbers to go off.
I am unsure how easy it would be to put 100 to 150 pounds off the end to try to stall this.
Can you check how many watts the charger uses when supercharging the battery,wanting to know if my 500w inverter will work with that charger.
Around 18.5amp when supercharged
$200 for 1 battery? How does it effect anything in the real world?
Well, it's supposed to be as good as the 12amp high output which starts around $250 so that's a start.
I call forge vs powerstack
I have been working on it, but it is pretty tough to make something like that that people won't shoot holes through. IMHO, both are great batteries and the new technology will help us all.
Can you still charge the new 6.0 forge battery on the normal m18 charger?
Yes
Do you have a vid on the grinder with the forge 6.0? Curious if it overheats with continued grinding.
The battery does? Can you tell me the task you are doing and for how long and I will work to recreate it. You can email me if you would like.
@@WorkshopAddict @WorkshopAddict I have the 6" fuel grinder and the biggest battery I have is the 8ah and the battery overheats after grinding for five mins or so. The 5 and 6 ah batts are even worse. They don't drain, they just overheat. This guy's vid shows the overheating problem he describes at 15:11. Thanks! ruclips.net/video/A5x3kMuZMX0/видео.htmlsi=HvMhMwr8vU48Hewv
Does this damn batterie overheated / thermal cutout when ripping with a saw ? I still have to wait months 😂 every influencer on instagram have the forge but nobody test them are respond to me they don't seem to care
You seen the Temps on this saw. I have not pushed it on the rear handle yet, but I would say no, it won't overheat.
@@WorkshopAddictits a game changer 😮😮
@@WorkshopAddicti preorder 2 of them on the first day they where alvailable for preorder in canada from missisauga hardware i look foward to try it out , i can't wait for the new 12ah forge next years , its seem that milwaukee did the right choice to stay on the 18v platform i never feel that i lack power with any tool
Cur some steel with it