I’ve seen already 3 Dark Horses in person and they look really good. Other than the tune the other factor that is making people stick to what they currently are driving is the price. Over 50k+ for a GT is alot and if your thinking about a Dark Horse your looking at 75k+
I saw a DH here in central NJ with MSRP of 66k+ with 5k over sticker for 71k ..that was 2 weeks ago ..I thought 5k over wasn’t bad even though I’ll never pay over msrp don’t care ! …
I remember ppl complaining about what the fox body didn’t have. Then when ford gave them abs and disc brakes. Bigger wheels, they cried about the price. 😂😂😂
I must be the only one who immediately fell in love with the S550 when it was first released in 2015. My local dealer had a Guard Green Performance pack car, and that was it. Since then I've owned 4 S550s.
Alex, I’ve had my S650 for a couple months now. When I purchased it there was a clear plastic bag in the trunk along with the floor mats. The bag contained flat black deflectors and mounting screws. I noticed when you had your car on the lift, you had two of those deflectors mounted on each side just to the inside of the two front wheels. I’m taking it that the dealer was probably supposed to mount those deflectors under the car as part of the delivery prep but didn’t know where they were supposed to go. Got mine in carbonized gray metallic with the performance package. I love it. BTW, great videos.
At SEMA both Whipple and now ProCharger showed their new S650 Mustang Gen 4 Coyote super chargers. Whipple is advertising 800 horsepower. This before a tune which will likely be available in the upcoming months with Two superchargers becoming available only a month after the 2024 Mustangs introduction. Personally. I think the Gen 4 Coyote will be an 8000 RPM monster with tuning and a supercharger. Thanks Zander for your honest information regarding the new S650 Mustang.
Great video Brother. The S650 is a very well made Mustang!!! I will watch your videos and learn as we go just like the last 5 years!!! Thanks for sharing Alex!!! 👍💪😎❤️🇺🇸✝️
Some cool technology there but I think the S550 is still my favorite body style along with the new edge. Just not a fan of the S650 crunched down rear end or the computer monitors hot glued to the dash. That being said I hope you have lots of fun with this car and enjoy it! Look forward to seeing what all you do with it.
Connecticut!!! Hey thats me! I just ordered an ESS G3 for my 2019 Bullitt. Can’t wait. Thanks for the awesome content! You and YNOT garage are the reason I ordered at HPR. Keep up the great work!
I own a 2024 GT Premium. I did not like the tablet in the beginning. The components were getting too hot, locking up, not displaying correct caller ID and much more. I finally figured out it was the connection to the LTE network for updates and reporting driver information. Once I turned off vehicle connectivity and connected with a usb cable, it works flawlessly.
I not trying to out do anyone, we have had 8 S550’s and now 2 DH . Thanks for your video , now let’s get my DH up in the air and see what is different between the Performance Pack and the DH . How about it ?
You can put two k and N filters on it and remove the two carbon filters from the tubes goin to the throttle bodies.If you do that you will get 17 more horsepower and more tourque.That only cost about $150 dollars
I got My S650 a month ago, traded in for my Bronco, although I miss my Bronco I really love this Mustang. It is my first ever and I wanted. I think my only regret is getting it with automatic transmission. Don't get me wrong. It is a lot faster than the manual, however, I would enjoy more driving it as a manual. One another issue that I have with the automatic is the "manual mode", It has too much lack when you try to change the gear and it's annoying, also it happens to downshift, It takes too longer to react. Other than that, It is an amazing car.
Kinda sad you got rid of your latest s550, even though you did say you were gonna keep it, but glad to see some content like this, it's refreshing to see a more in depth differences. And hope you keep the content creative, and different from other youtubers
That white looks sweet! I’m a little jealous of the brake vents oil cooler rear brembo etc on these I just spent the weekend putting a Stg2 Whipple in my 22GT which whipples directions sucked lol, I wish I knew I could’ve ordered my Whipple through HPR tho I would’ve.
Didn't want to pay dealer markup. So I picked up a 2023 Mustang GT (black with chrome badging) 6 speed for 45k. I'm very happy with the car. It's gets a lot of attention.
And you can toss anything you want on it and roll out for the money you saved you can literally get tuned ess for instance.....good thinking these guys gonna be shocked when they still cant tune them a year or 2 from now....why you think VMP HAD TO SUCK THEIR ENEMIES DICK to get boost it's ONLY whipple and ONLY the whipple tune...
Nice one Alex, Love the new S650 after seeing them in person at Ford Fest. And yes, HPR is the only place I trust to take my car. Glad I am less than 2 hours from there now.
Wonder what LTFT and STFT can reasonably keep in control, add the damn headers and cat delete, let the ecu learn to add fuel with the LTFT trims the main other field would be "transient time" id guess ( time for feedback between factory O2 sensor location and wire length vs headers ), use a straight thru Hollowed out Muffler can and weld O2 bungs into it and space them till it doesnt throw a code ( it will work ive done it personally on a off road only gen 3) for down stream O2.... Bet it would work though i havent tried to pull one of these tunes to look yet....
Appreciate the walk through of the new changes. I realize some of the cooling ducts might be PP specific, but still nice to see those details. I've had 3 S550s, and I do like the S6650. Just gonna wait until I see if Roush makes a model.
Good job with all the little detail and views we don't get to see. I agree its new and people need to see them in person but its a great looking car with still some classic mustang lines. keep up the good work.
I have a 2003 100th anniversary of Ford Mustang GT convertible. I bought it for less than 2000 dollars and wish that I could afford the 2024 s650 when it comes with tuning of course. I just can't so I will keep what I have until either it gives out or I do. I am almost 65 and retired, so I am on a limited budget. By the way, I would love that s650.
@@Zander13Productions it’s monitoring the car as a whole. ONLY when a trouble code happens is when the car sends the data to Ford. The carbon traps ARE an emissions item and will void warranty if removed. They’re to absorb the fumes from the engine when the car is not running of the unburnt gas when the engine is off. Valves remain open at some point allowing the gas to come back into the intake system, and the carbon filters are there to filter that out.
Great video Alex! Love the underside look and you're right It looks like they took a bunch of bits and pieces off of the Mach 1. I saw a lot of features on that car that are currently on my Mach 1. I wonder if they corrected the passenger side active exhaust issue where the wiring harness for the actuator was rubbing up against the frame?
I had a shop cut and fold over the little area where it was rubbing. The smoothed out the folded over area and painted it. Problem solved no more rubbing. I went through two of those passenger side harnesses. Ford could have reversed the actuator so that it faced the front of the car and plugged in the harness. There is plenty of room.
@@michaeldials9291 I did the exact same thing after my wiring harness got severed and also wrapped the new harness in gorilla tape and no problems since then.
I did not like the steering feel. It felt numb. Weather you are moving or standing still the steering feels the same. I am on my 3rd S550, totaling 100k + plus miles in them. The S650 steering felt like there was no resistance. I did think the G4 Coyote is snappier, better throttle response.
Interesting video - Good luck with your new car, will be following along as you move forward. Trying to decide on keeping my 2018 GT Premium v getting a S650. The way I would order the car would bring the cost to almost $60,000 + $5,000+/- sales tax😬. Local Ford dealer insists on additional $1,500 +/- of “mandatory” dealer add ons. Needless to say I would never buy from a dealer who has “addendums” and or dealer add ons I don’t want.
@@TylerJohn-f8t Biggest favor you can do for yourself - Keep your car until it’s paid off. Then make car payments to yourself until you can pay cash for your next car. I’m 75, and my 2018 S550 is only my 5th car. I’ve never had a car loan. I always by new and take great care of my cars. I typically drive my cars from 150,000 to 200,000 miles. Happy Motoring 🤠
@@TylerJohn-f8t My 2018 GT is almost payed off too. I looked at one of these new cars at the local dealer the other day. I really like it but I'm just not going to get one anytime soon. With my current car, I'm pretty dead set on getting a VMP Supercharger in the coming months so I'm still gonna keep it for probably a few more years at least. I've put $10k worth of cosmetic mods in it + full catback exhaust, and haven’t even touched the engine yet.
They deleted the rear bottom diffuser on s650 made it flat and smooth now . Maybe you don't need like the s550 PP due to the extra aero we see under the S650 car ? The rear bottom diffuser on previous 2018 to 2023 S550 FN GT 5.0 PP , looked really good and was like the rear diffuser from Ferraris F430 style with very noticeable fences to split exiting bottom air .
It's 92% exactly the same as an S550. Updated screens, some exterior refreshing, and a couple of parts bin swaps. Did you say "all new" with a straight face ?
Im curious the see more pics/vid the front control arms. They look to be all new and aluminum. I do see lots of bits from gt350 and 500 like those short vertical links. Cool vid. Thanks.
@stevensmith8313 easier than selling and paying Mark up lol for DAMN sure tje interest alone if you just got to have a metal pan lol....just have it incase? Maybe feel better? Save the 20k you wljls lose in the transaction? Those pans are tougher than you might expect we pulled 3 or 4 and didn't care how the cores were handled much tougher than you might think and yes I didn't like em either but they aren't worth trading cars. Don't forget to have HPR put billet oil pump gears and hell maybe the gen 4 intake cams in white he is swapping the robust composite pan off your gen 3 hehe maybe a stall too let's not waste the labor but more importantly let's not waste the money for a S650
For 10 grand more you can have the much better C8 corvette. I think more guys will go that way from the other brands than to the mustang, at least those who want a V8 anyway. Mustang will be the only rwd show in town with a entry priced 4 or 6 banger in it unless you go foreign Toyota or Nissan.
Hi Zander, you saying that you’ve test drove both with and with out Magnaride and not see any difference on the non Magnaride cause im contemplating if I should not add the MR to my order. Cheers
@@eremyjay it’s not bad at all but my roads here are not that bad. If you can one with mag ride it’s definitely worth thinking about. But for me not a big deal
Wait so the engine is squeezed from factory, not much meat left on the bone for aftermarket tuning AND is higher power stock...yet couple tenths slower stock? Why?
Ironically all Mustangs have been like that. They debut and your put off by it's new look and design until you see it in person. Then all those design features that looked so wrong in print and in videos now aren't anywhere near so off putting. In fact it works very well as an evolutionary design. That's been the magic of Fords designers and proof in their putting that's seen to the mustangs longevity.
If the car fixes all the weaknesses in previous gen maybe there is nothing left for tuners to do eh? Can people just enjoy what they have and leave well and good alone?
So once you remove all the Geolocation Nanny State crap, the Internet Nanny State crap, install long tubes and GOOD sounding performance mufflers I’d be interested in performance comparisons. That’s of course surmising you are gonna check actual performance as it currently sits In it’s Observe/Monitor/Log/Report mode.
Excellent choice I know your last mustang was a 10speed.. love the car the manual transmission gives you the best driving experience I heard that they beefed up the mt82 as well. 👍
Looking to get the base wit the performance pack and active exhaust. Just wanted to see if the suspension it comes is good enough without the magneride ?
Oil coolers out in front of the engine with their own air ducting? Everyone knows you are supposed to put the oil cooler right in the middle of the V underneath the air intake like my fiat.
I’m not a fan of the S650’s. I’ve driven one and there is a noticeable difference from the S550’s for the better, but even in person I’m not a big fan of the dash. The exterior of the car looks better in person than in photos, but the screens stuck on the dash just ruins it for me. Good luck with whatever your plans are, I’m still excited to see where the aftermarket goes with them.
I agree. The screens are atrocious. All they had to do is work on flow and integration but they just chose to stick them in there like an IPad. Zero thought and effort on their part
Agreed in certain colors, dark ones, they look better in person exterior wise. Interior they lost me it's a big step backwards from the last generation. They copied the current type car market dash found in everything from mini vans to Buicks now with that screen type dash which don't belong in any muscle car. Even if you like that kinda thing, they super cheaped out and didn't incorporate it into the dash, they just half a$$ed plopped that sh!t on top the dash. It will take a whole lot of horsepower to get me to over look the interior if they want to sell me a new mustang, im holding on tighter to my 21 GT Premium now than I was 6 months ago lol. If the new dealer installed and factory backed whipple turns out to be fairly priced, I might look into it, but that dash would certainly need to grow on me quickly.....used Shelby GT's and Mach1's never looked better at this point!
For me it's not worth it especially since mine is paid off. Why pay another $60k+ for another subpar Mustang. I can see if they had added AWD &/or forged internals but nah thank you. I can spend money on my S550 and add plenty of upgrades. I just can't justify it buying this car myself.
Love how the S650 Performance Pack is a baby Mach 1, including the wheel design
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Except that it’s new and better
S650 is my first Mustang and I absolutely love it
Did you notice the hole in the front wheel well liners bottom on back? Snow and rocks for days.
I’ve seen already 3 Dark Horses in person and they look really good. Other than the tune the other factor that is making people stick to what they currently are driving is the price. Over 50k+ for a GT is alot and if your thinking about a Dark Horse your looking at 75k+
I saw a DH here in central NJ with MSRP of 66k+ with 5k over sticker for 71k ..that was 2 weeks ago ..I thought 5k over wasn’t bad even though I’ll never pay over msrp don’t care ! …
Just ordered my DH today and it was just shy of 61k.
You should buy as many as you can at that price! I know 6 people that have purchased one and EVERY one of them has spent over 70-75k OTD
They stopped catering to the working class.
@@StacheDad sorry to hear that
It's funny how some people will complain if it is too different and others will complain if it is too similar.
“It’s a s550 with lip stick but it’s a heavy pig and slow and ugly and a dud” lmao contradiction all while nobody asked them
I remember ppl complaining about what the fox body didn’t have. Then when ford gave them abs and disc brakes. Bigger wheels, they cried about the price. 😂😂😂
@@larrypruitt3919 Exactly. The whiners always get attention.
@@matt7sixty Not according to the reviews.
I must be the only one who immediately fell in love with the S550 when it was first released in 2015. My local dealer had a Guard Green Performance pack car, and that was it. Since then I've owned 4 S550s.
Alex, I’ve had my S650 for a couple months now. When I purchased it there was a clear plastic bag in the trunk along with the floor mats. The bag contained flat black deflectors and mounting screws. I noticed when you had your car on the lift, you had two of those deflectors mounted on each side just to the inside of the two front wheels. I’m taking it that the dealer was probably supposed to mount those deflectors under the car as part of the delivery prep but didn’t know where they were supposed to go. Got mine in carbonized gray metallic with the performance package. I love it. BTW, great videos.
Thanks. Glad you are loving your car. I certainly do mine. The plastic things are for airflow I think
Now that's interesting .... most channels don't show the undercarriage. Its nice to see how Ford did change things up where it matters most.
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Nothing they couldn't bolt on an s550 chassis...oh wait heh
If you like undercarriage car reviews, @savagegeese includes at least 5 minutes of discussion of chassis revisions and improvements in their reviews
At SEMA both Whipple and now ProCharger showed their new S650 Mustang Gen 4 Coyote super chargers. Whipple is advertising 800 horsepower. This before a tune which will likely be available in the upcoming months with Two superchargers becoming available only a month after the 2024 Mustangs introduction. Personally. I think the Gen 4 Coyote will be an 8000 RPM monster with tuning and a supercharger. Thanks Zander for your honest information regarding the new S650 Mustang.
The tablet Dash is the deal-breaker for me and that will never change wait till the Parts start failing and having glitches analog is tried and true😊
rumor has it the ecm has a tattletale mode that ford will give to ANY law enforcement that asks for it.
Great video Brother. The S650 is a very well made Mustang!!! I will watch your videos and learn as we go just like the last 5 years!!!
Thanks for sharing Alex!!!
👍💪😎❤️🇺🇸✝️
Thanks so much. God bless you
Some cool technology there but I think the S550 is still my favorite body style along with the new edge. Just not a fan of the S650 crunched down rear end or the computer monitors hot glued to the dash. That being said I hope you have lots of fun with this car and enjoy it! Look forward to seeing what all you do with it.
Looks like mach1 is the way to go if you are looking for performance car.
Connecticut!!! Hey thats me! I just ordered an ESS G3 for my 2019 Bullitt. Can’t wait. Thanks for the awesome content! You and YNOT garage are the reason I ordered at HPR. Keep up the great work!
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I own a 2024 GT Premium. I did not like the tablet in the beginning. The components were getting too hot, locking up, not displaying correct caller ID and much more. I finally figured out it was the connection to the LTE network for updates and reporting driver information. Once I turned off vehicle connectivity and connected with a usb cable, it works flawlessly.
Did Ford borrow the Honda accords grille for new mustang???;
I not trying to out do anyone, we have had 8 S550’s and now 2 DH . Thanks for your video , now let’s get my DH up in the air and see what is different between the Performance Pack and the DH . How about it ?
You can put two k and N filters on it and remove the two carbon filters from the tubes goin to the throttle bodies.If you do that you will get 17 more horsepower and more tourque.That only cost about $150 dollars
That’s not bad 🤘
K&N are garbage filters. If you value your engine you’d stay away from them.
Carbon traps are federal emissions items and will void warranty. If a shop removes them they could lose their license
I got My S650 a month ago, traded in for my Bronco, although I miss my Bronco I really love this Mustang. It is my first ever and I wanted. I think my only regret is getting it with automatic transmission. Don't get me wrong. It is a lot faster than the manual, however, I would enjoy more driving it as a manual.
One another issue that I have with the automatic is the "manual mode", It has too much lack when you try to change the gear and it's annoying, also it happens to downshift, It takes too longer to react. Other than that, It is an amazing car.
Huge congrats. Yes. The manual is fun but that auto is still great
Congrats on the s650 I just pick up my Dark Horse and yes it is a completely different car .
Very nice. Congrats
Kinda sad you got rid of your latest s550, even though you did say you were gonna keep it, but glad to see some content like this, it's refreshing to see a more in depth differences. And hope you keep the content creative, and different from other youtubers
More to come!
Why is the passenger side air duct under the headlight closed off?
That white looks sweet! I’m a little jealous of the brake vents oil cooler rear brembo etc on these I just spent the weekend putting a Stg2 Whipple in my 22GT which whipples directions sucked lol, I wish I knew I could’ve ordered my Whipple through HPR tho I would’ve.
Oh yea baby is it a gen 6 whipple?
Remember seeing pictures of mustang 2 in the 70's . Hated it more when I saw it in person.
Didn't want to pay dealer markup. So I picked up a 2023 Mustang GT (black with chrome badging) 6 speed for 45k. I'm very happy with the car. It's gets a lot of attention.
And you can toss anything you want on it and roll out for the money you saved you can literally get tuned ess for instance.....good thinking these guys gonna be shocked when they still cant tune them a year or 2 from now....why you think VMP HAD TO SUCK THEIR ENEMIES DICK to get boost it's ONLY whipple and ONLY the whipple tune...
Why is the new Mustang slower ?
I wish we had guy's and shop's like this in south Jersey.. It's so hard to find decent speed shops anymore...
Nice one Alex, Love the new S650 after seeing them in person at Ford Fest. And yes, HPR is the only place I trust to take my car. Glad I am less than 2 hours from there now.
Absolutely 💯 😁😉
i would love to see that twin intake system made for the gen 3 engines
Wonder what LTFT and STFT can reasonably keep in control, add the damn headers and cat delete, let the ecu learn to add fuel with the LTFT trims the main other field would be "transient time" id guess ( time for feedback between factory O2 sensor location and wire length vs headers ), use a straight thru Hollowed out Muffler can and weld O2 bungs into it and space them till it doesnt throw a code ( it will work ive done it personally on a off road only gen 3) for down stream O2....
Bet it would work though i havent tried to pull one of these tunes to look yet....
Appreciate the walk through of the new changes. I realize some of the cooling ducts might be PP specific, but still nice to see those details. I've had 3 S550s, and I do like the S6650. Just gonna wait until I see if Roush makes a model.
You bet!
I sure they will! but you’d probably come out a good bit cheaper.. and with a bad ass’R ride by letting Ken & these guys build you something nasty! 💯
That “counter weight” is really called a Tuned Mass Damper. And yes it’s to reduce NVH.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuned_mass_damper
You'll never convince a Ford lover
That they're wrong....
All you need to do is drive one of the newer stangs and it will hook you. I'm on my 3rd coyote powered stang and love it
Other than it telling the world every move you make, everything you say, hell every breath you take, It's a great car.
Good job with all the little detail and views we don't get to see. I agree its new and people need to see them in person but its a great looking car with still some classic mustang lines. keep up the good work.
Thanks 👍
Does anyone know the part number of that rear diff counterweight? And will it help with drivetrain vibration
why is there a worm screw clamp on a brand new car?? Saw it thru a coil spring from bottom of car.
I have a 2003 100th anniversary of Ford Mustang GT convertible. I bought it for less than 2000 dollars and wish that I could afford the 2024 s650 when it comes with tuning of course. I just can't so I will keep what I have until either it gives out or I do. I am almost 65 and retired, so I am on a limited budget. By the way, I would love that s650.
That almost looks like my Lincoln LS Suspension.
Thank you for showing this video I just bought a performance pack and I really want to see the difference.
If it throws an emmission code it notifies the manufacture. If you remove carbon traps in intake you void warranty , they are an emissions item
The car is not monitoring the filters. They are located POST MAF. That’s how cars work. If it was PRE NAF then it would be different
@@Zander13Productions it’s monitoring the car as a whole. ONLY when a trouble code happens is when the car sends the data to Ford. The carbon traps ARE an emissions item and will void warranty if removed. They’re to absorb the fumes from the engine when the car is not running of the unburnt gas when the engine is off. Valves remain open at some point allowing the gas to come back into the intake system, and the carbon filters are there to filter that out.
Great video Alex! Love the underside look and you're right It looks like they took a bunch of bits and pieces off of the Mach 1. I saw a lot of features on that car that are currently on my Mach 1. I wonder if they corrected the passenger side active exhaust issue where the wiring harness for the actuator was rubbing up against the frame?
Thanks! 👍
I had a shop cut and fold over the little area where it was rubbing. The smoothed out the folded over area and painted it. Problem solved no more rubbing. I went through two of those passenger side harnesses. Ford could have reversed the actuator so that it faced the front of the car and plugged in the harness. There is plenty of room.
@@michaeldials9291 I did the exact same thing after my wiring harness got severed and also wrapped the new harness in gorilla tape and no problems since then.
That vertical like is the same as the gt500
I just hate the GT's front bumper. That gloss black lipgloss looks weird. Wish the car was lighter too.
What's with the spot welds on the muffler
I did not like the steering feel. It felt numb. Weather you are moving or standing still the steering feels the same. I am on my 3rd S550, totaling 100k + plus miles in them. The S650 steering felt like there was no resistance. I did think the G4 Coyote is snappier, better throttle response.
I do wish the steering felt heavier
The rear valance would look better paint matched.
Interesting video - Good luck with your new car, will be following along as you move forward. Trying to decide on keeping my 2018 GT Premium v getting a S650. The way I would order the car would bring the cost to almost $60,000 + $5,000+/- sales tax😬. Local Ford dealer insists on additional $1,500 +/- of “mandatory” dealer add ons. Needless to say I would never buy from a dealer who has “addendums” and or dealer add ons I don’t want.
Thanks. All the dealers near me don’t have ADM on regular GT cars
Yeah I can decide to trade in my 18 I owe 6k saw a dark horse on the highway looks sick
@@TylerJohn-f8t Biggest favor you can do for yourself - Keep your car until it’s paid off. Then make car payments to yourself until you can pay cash for your next car. I’m 75, and my 2018 S550 is only my 5th car. I’ve never had a car loan. I always by new and take great care of my cars. I typically drive my cars from 150,000 to 200,000 miles. Happy Motoring 🤠
@@TylerJohn-f8t My 2018 GT is almost payed off too. I looked at one of these new cars at the local dealer the other day. I really like it but I'm just not going to get one anytime soon. With my current car, I'm pretty dead set on getting a VMP Supercharger in the coming months so I'm still gonna keep it for probably a few more years at least. I've put $10k worth of cosmetic mods in it + full catback exhaust, and haven’t even touched the engine yet.
GREAT CONTENT AND VIDEO GUY'S. THANK YOU.
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Only GT performance pack has those vents. It’s blocked off for normal ones. Saw it yesterday at the dealership lol
At least the oil cooler ones
Yes
Outstanding work gentlemen!!
Thank you kindly!
They deleted the rear bottom diffuser on s650 made it flat and smooth now . Maybe you don't need like the s550 PP due to the extra aero we see under the S650 car ?
The rear bottom diffuser on previous 2018 to 2023 S550 FN GT 5.0 PP , looked really good and was like the rear diffuser from Ferraris F430 style with very noticeable fences to split exiting bottom air .
It's 92% exactly the same as an S550. Updated screens, some exterior refreshing, and a couple of parts bin swaps.
Did you say "all new" with a straight face ?
It’s actually about 92% different. Not even the seats are the same
What won't bolt onto a s550 chassis
Im curious the see more pics/vid the front control arms. They look to be all new and aluminum. I do see lots of bits from gt350 and 500 like those short vertical links. Cool vid. Thanks.
Get ready for the next video in a couple days. You will be very impressed
@@Zander13Productions sweet. Can't wait.
They sure sound better than last year....something is different.
Ford has mastered the art of more money for less car. And to think Henry Ford wanted to make affordable cars for the common man.
Im ready to trade up my 2019 PP1 GT Premium for the oil pan alone! the air flow looks incredible.
Yeah my car is lowered and I hesitate every speed bump thinking about this plastic oil pan 😂
Just get the part number from Ken and order it, same engine
@@ShawnGilbert1967 oil pan swaps that easy? I'll have to look into that lol
@stevensmith8313 easier than selling and paying Mark up lol for DAMN sure tje interest alone if you just got to have a metal pan lol....just have it incase? Maybe feel better? Save the 20k you wljls lose in the transaction?
Those pans are tougher than you might expect we pulled 3 or 4 and didn't care how the cores were handled much tougher than you might think and yes I didn't like em either but they aren't worth trading cars.
Don't forget to have HPR put billet oil pump gears and hell maybe the gen 4 intake cams in white he is swapping the robust composite pan off your gen 3 hehe maybe a stall too let's not waste the labor but more importantly let's not waste the money for a S650
Cat converters are easily accessible. Nice.
My 69 Dodge SuperBee had fat tires I put in the back in the mid 70s like the mustang front tires
MUSTANGS RULE 😂😂😅😅
It seems that is a "tuned mass" not a counterweight. IF it was a counterweight it would not be loose, usually.
How long will he keep it?
Not sure yet 😂
Nothing is perfect but to me
The S550 wasn’t broken so why fix what isn’t broken? Freshening up the S550 to become the S650 wasn’t a bad thing.
Exactly
They gonna sell like crazy now that theirs no Camaro or charger
For 10 grand more you can have the much better C8 corvette. I think more guys will go that way from the other brands than to the mustang, at least those who want a V8 anyway. Mustang will be the only rwd show in town with a entry priced 4 or 6 banger in it unless you go foreign Toyota or Nissan.
That's a good point troy....I mean if you see a C8 that is a super car..runs 10s stock and can be tuned now....
@@ShawnGilbert1967i was gonna get one but the seats were to uncomfortable for my build… mustang super comfortable
@ULIEINTOME I'm tall and fat and mustang is super comfortable for mee too
awesome. Mustang
I have a question to anybody that knows, does anyone know if a s550 k member is compatible with a s650 or is the making completely different?
Is the long block a standard 18+ Coyote?
No. Different block and internals and different cams
Does it have magneride and if so how’s the ride with or without magneride?
No mag ride. I test drove both and felt little difference on the s650 on the street
@@Zander13Productions thanks. I’m fixing to order mine tomorrow. I seen where you live in Clarksville I’m not far from you in Dover
@@thomasa2145 yes. You right in my neck of the woods
I delivered the Mustang seats for this car and every Mustang being built in FlatRock, Mi
Hi Zander, you saying that you’ve test drove both with and with out Magnaride and not see any difference on the non Magnaride cause im contemplating if I should not add the MR to my order. Cheers
There is some difference but it’s not a deal breaker if you can’t find one it it
@@Zander13Productions how’s the ride quality on bumps and turns on bendy roads etc with out it ?
@@eremyjay it’s not bad at all but my roads here are not that bad. If you can one with mag ride it’s definitely worth thinking about. But for me not a big deal
Wait so the engine is squeezed from factory, not much meat left on the bone for aftermarket tuning AND is higher power stock...yet couple tenths slower stock? Why?
Congrats on the new S650… I’m not sold on them yet. Maybe you can change my mind. 👍
Much better then the old Mach 1
Looks like Ford might have actually hired some genuine engineers. Nice!
Dose this car spit out plastic parts?
The 2013 ~ 2014 and gt500 are the best hands
down .
I kinda agree
Those ones with a 6 speed manual 660hp with tall gears. Yeah, but not for novice drivers.lol Those things are dangerous, lol
Ironically all Mustangs have been like that. They debut and your put off by it's new look and design until you see it in person. Then all those design features that looked so wrong in print and in videos now aren't anywhere near so off putting. In fact it works very well as an evolutionary design. That's been the magic of Fords designers and proof in their putting that's seen to the mustangs longevity.
Kenish FTW 🔧🚗🐎💪🇺🇸 the toe link is the bottom most forward arm 🙌🔧🚗😂🤪
These guys are fascinated over things a base SS came with 2 generations ago.
Love the plate cover !🫡
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Anything after 2014 doesn’t even look like a mustang anymore. I’ll just keep what I have. & NO payments 🤗
If the car fixes all the weaknesses in previous gen maybe there is nothing left for tuners to do eh? Can people just enjoy what they have and leave well and good alone?
not a Ford guy but those coyote engines are a bit special, like the front but the sloped back looks a bit naff
So once you remove all the Geolocation Nanny State crap, the Internet Nanny State crap, install long tubes and GOOD sounding performance mufflers I’d be interested in performance comparisons. That’s of course surmising you are gonna check actual performance as it currently sits In it’s Observe/Monitor/Log/Report mode.
Is that a manual or automatic?
Manual
Excellent choice I know your last mustang was a 10speed.. love the car the manual transmission gives you the best driving experience I heard that they beefed up the mt82 as well. 👍
what transmission ?
Manual
i know that tremec ?what series ?@@Zander13Productions
Very Camaro- like in appearance. Those hood louvers look almost exact.
Do you think the magneride is worth getting for the s650 ?
Hard to say. If you have more bumpy roads then yes, it’s probably worth it
Looking to get the base wit the performance pack and active exhaust. Just wanted to see if the suspension it comes is good enough without the magneride ?
@@Kratos636 I’m loving it so far without it
Thanks Zander That’s all i needed to hear !! I made my decision easier !
Bad azz car! Congrats brother!!
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Oil coolers out in front of the engine with their own air ducting? Everyone knows you are supposed to put the oil cooler right in the middle of the V underneath the air intake like my fiat.
I’m not a fan of the S650’s. I’ve driven one and there is a noticeable difference from the S550’s for the better, but even in person I’m not a big fan of the dash. The exterior of the car looks better in person than in photos, but the screens stuck on the dash just ruins it for me.
Good luck with whatever your plans are, I’m still excited to see where the aftermarket goes with them.
I agree. The screens are atrocious. All they had to do is work on flow and integration but they just chose to stick them in there like an IPad. Zero thought and effort on their part
Agreed in certain colors, dark ones, they look better in person exterior wise. Interior they lost me it's a big step backwards from the last generation. They copied the current type car market dash found in everything from mini vans to Buicks now with that screen type dash which don't belong in any muscle car. Even if you like that kinda thing, they super cheaped out and didn't incorporate it into the dash, they just half a$$ed plopped that sh!t on top the dash. It will take a whole lot of horsepower to get me to over look the interior if they want to sell me a new mustang, im holding on tighter to my 21 GT Premium now than I was 6 months ago lol. If the new dealer installed and factory backed whipple turns out to be fairly priced, I might look into it, but that dash would certainly need to grow on me quickly.....used Shelby GT's and Mach1's never looked better at this point!
Thanks Zander
The first mod I did to my 550 was to take that suitcase resonator off.
RLCA right off the gen 2 Fusion .
It's a ford, what did you expect.
By the way, where do you keep the tow strap?
Great review. Looking forward to your report on how the suspension feels on a day at the track both road course and drag strip.
For me it's not worth it especially since mine is paid off. Why pay another $60k+ for another subpar Mustang. I can see if they had added AWD &/or forged internals but nah thank you. I can spend money on my S550 and add plenty of upgrades. I just can't justify it buying this car myself.
I’ll keep what I have, S550/650 just doesn’t appeal to me, Even if it can’t be tuned.