3 minutes in and here is problem number 1. Discussions and solutions relating to societal issues need to be collaborative and not merely prescriptive. Get men in the panel to become part of driving the solution.
Watch how the story of the mineworker that got assaulted and fired (at around 1:45:00) be given more attention than the first mineworker with the same story, only because a MAN spoke out on her behalf!!!
Why are men intimidated and agitated when they see women stand up in solidarity together? Your fragile egos have been hurt huh you poor men. Hasn’t it?
Universities accommodate more women now but they don't go with STEM.... The feminists choose courses that "partriachy" would have wanted them to choose. 🤔... I mean you can just take leadership positions by competency not gender. If we use competency, then we can see the women that are being segregated against... Races that are being segregated against.... I also wanted to point out that... There are bursaries for women.. Exclusively.... Care to explain?
i feel the pain of my Brothers and sister's in South Africa, and by extension, other places in Africa and else where, but we all need to know that no one is too powerful to be cut down, they can be as strong and powerful to the extent to the where we the people allow them to, we the people have the ultimate power and fail to exersise it by being [ UNITED ] against any force and defeat them, you all stay strong and keep the [ FYAH BURNING WE WILL GET THERE ]
@ point in time 20:55: men have more power, more money, more safety and more options. I am not one of those men 🤷♂! I am one of those men relegated to townships without much opportunity that might also get raped (without setting foot in jail), get murdered by my black brothers, who is always racially profiled, might resort to suicide should the situation worsen and is seen as toxic, dangerous and ignorant by default. Can I add I that Steve Biko was so right that I have lost faith in my black women, same black women I relate to because they are community builders. As black men, I hate to admit, I am on my own.
Ii think the composition of the panel is not correct at least you must have man so that they can speak for themselves because if you want men to listen to these issues involve them in the debate because most of us support women in their fight
Yes it exists as a result of difference in occupation nd other reasons, it would be better if they checked per occupation nd not men nd women as a whole irrespective of occupation.
The Burn Your comment is so stupid, insensitive and senseless. Patriarchy is as much of a problem as education, racism etc. because so much more issues that are hurting our country AND KIDS stem from patriarchy. As if that isn't enough, it aids the oppression of women of colour. The same way racism is based on the idea of one race being superior to the other, patriarchy is based on the idea that males are superior to females. But it doesn't affect men, so of course it should take a backseat.
@Jerry Kariuki Patriarchy is THE reason why there is education and civilization to begin with, and women are the biggest benefactors of the patriarchy.
@@boipelomosoetsa9450 You are confusing patriarchy with the inferiority complex you are feeling. The Patriarchy exists because biologically work harder and longer with less breaks then women. You can't fix natural evolution.
3 minutes in and here is problem number 1. Discussions and solutions relating to societal issues need to be collaborative and not merely prescriptive. Get men in the panel to become part of driving the solution.
maybe men can just listen for 5 minutes before they are given control over the solution. get your mind straight.
I fail to see a debate, this is just berating of older feminists by younger feminists, and agreement on pretty much all points. Echo Chamber.
Watch how the story of the mineworker that got assaulted and fired (at around 1:45:00) be given more attention than the first mineworker with the same story, only because a MAN spoke out on her behalf!!!
Honestly speaking this is not a debate. But a discussion where patriarch is being discussed. acquiescent is a dangerous thing to adopt.
This is such an amazing debate/discussion.We need to have discussions like this in the UK.
Just a bunch of people talking & not a single thread of Facts along the whole conversation.
Just parroting American liberal feminist nonsense.
thank you My G....This shit is full of BS! as I expected!!!
Yeah
Just pure shit
They are Talking about men "oppressing" them..Yet they ARE not giving them(MenInTheRoom) an opportunity to speak For a Whole Hour!🙄😲😔.
Women are being abusive towards male commentators in this debate
Why are men intimidated and agitated when they see women stand up in solidarity together?
Your fragile egos have been hurt huh you poor men. Hasn’t it?
stop tripping....Women ain't shit!!! without Men! Period!!
@@thegreattyler7878 and vice versa
"Freedom f speech to the foolest".
Universities accommodate more women now but they don't go with STEM.... The feminists choose courses that "partriachy" would have wanted them to choose. 🤔... I mean you can just take leadership positions by competency not gender. If we use competency, then we can see the women that are being segregated against... Races that are being segregated against.... I also wanted to point out that... There are bursaries for women.. Exclusively.... Care to explain?
Echo chamber is strong hahaha
haybo! this is not a debate.
"And some men" 😂🙌
Dr Nokuzola Mndede 👌
I wish BIG DEBATE invites Ndabenhle Myeza from Nandafm that gentleman can teach lot more about Patriarchal matter
There was no man called Adam, it is just a story. 😂😂😂 28:03
''there was not even a man called Adam, it is just a story...!!!!!!!!!!'' Lmao
Matriarch can't replace patriarchy
i feel the pain of my Brothers and sister's in South Africa, and by extension, other places in Africa and else where, but we all need to know that no one is too powerful to be cut down, they can be as strong and powerful to the extent to the where we the people allow them to, we the people have the ultimate power and fail to exersise it by being [ UNITED ] against any force and defeat them, you all stay strong and keep the [ FYAH BURNING WE WILL GET THERE ]
This is not a debate 🙄 no opposition voice 🤣🤣🤣
We have to fight ✊🏽 this men hate
40:47 that girl picking her nose hahahahahaha
Watch again - shes rubbing the side of her nose
The brother at 1:30:23 was like "yeah, f*ck dis." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love it when femenists debate.... of course never logical or coherent but It's so entertaining
Please, get help
This Cosatu member just doesn't get it!!!
W E BURN [FYAH STRAIT ON CHIEF ] We need nothing but good committed Government
Lol these chicks dude gassing each other up
@ point in time 20:55: men have more power, more money, more safety and more options. I am not one of those men 🤷♂! I am one of those men relegated to townships without much opportunity that might also get raped (without setting foot in jail), get murdered by my black brothers, who is always racially profiled, might resort to suicide should the situation worsen and is seen as toxic, dangerous and ignorant by default. Can I add I that Steve Biko was so right that I have lost faith in my black women, same black women I relate to because they are community builders. As black men, I hate to admit, I am on my own.
define debate
Ii think the composition of the panel is not correct at least you must have man so that they can speak for themselves because if you want men to listen to these issues involve them in the debate because most of us support women in their fight
Awesome show! 💛
Can I get I citation on the gender wage gap in RSA? Is it true?
Yes it exists as a result of difference in occupation nd other reasons, it would be better if they checked per occupation nd not men nd women as a whole irrespective of occupation.
holysmokes44 fuck no
Nah gender pay gap is a myth.
Call men to the Panel... "And some men" ?
This video isn't getting the views it deserves!!!
this is a bullshit narrative designed to create dum single mothers with multiple kids fom different fathers
How about we strive for education and civilisation before we discuss the patriarchy?
you cannot strive for education and civilisation without dismantling patriarchy.
The Burn Your comment is so stupid, insensitive and senseless. Patriarchy is as much of a problem as education, racism etc. because so much more issues that are hurting our country AND KIDS stem from patriarchy. As if that isn't enough, it aids the oppression of women of colour. The same way racism is based on the idea of one race being superior to the other, patriarchy is based on the idea that males are superior to females. But it doesn't affect men, so of course it should take a backseat.
@Jerry Kariuki Patriarchy is THE reason why there is education and civilization to begin with, and women are the biggest benefactors of the patriarchy.
@@boipelomosoetsa9450 You are confusing patriarchy with the inferiority complex you are feeling. The Patriarchy exists because biologically work harder and longer with less breaks then women. You can't fix natural evolution.
@@DJ13854 patriarchy is the reason for education and civilization.