Breville Oracle Touch Home Espresso Machine Setup and First Impressions | Not A Review
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- Опубликовано: 31 окт 2017
- Finally setup my Breville Oracle Touch home espresso machine. Here's the setup process and first impressions - will get a review in the works after I've played with it for a bit.
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Thanks for engaging the home community dude! As someone living in a city without shops to choose from, this is a very important demographic to keep in mind. Especially going into the future and sharing the coffee passion with folks who become more and more interested in specialty.
Hey Chris, Thanks for the awesome content. Only discovered your channel the other day but i'm learning so much and your content quality is way higher than your sub count reflects.
I'm a weekend warrior and a full time student and love the coffee game. Keep killing it!
Thank you so much for the kind words! Hopefully I can grow this bad boy but for now just having massive amounts of fun!
Thank you Chris! Love your vids, know-how, style etc. Look forward to the full review. I've liked Breville products and believe that there is no one better than yourself to do this particular review. For the serious home barista, with some modifications this machine could be amazing... Sooo excited...!!!
Thank you so much! Full review soon and I appreciate you over here!
Great setup review. Can't wait to hear your further impressions of the Breville once you've had a chance to live with it for a while.
Soon for sure. I want to get a good amount of time with it so I can do an honest assessment
Thanks for the vid! Really cool to see you dial in coffee. Keep up the awesomeness.
Thanks so much Kevin!
I'm in Canada and the price of anything espresso related (and I do mean everything) is *very* expensive. It took me years to save up enough to get the Breville Duo Temp Pro and a Baratza Encore grinder. The grinder cost me $225 CDN and $370 for the espresso machine, for a total of $595 (all prices are with tax added). I know for many people that is not a lot of money but I'm on a disability pension and can barely get through the month on the petty cheque I get from it.
All that being said, I am amazed at the shots I'm pulling. The Encore grinder is an amazing grinder, short on looks and big on excellent grinding. The Breville machine is about as plain as they come but again, the lack of chrome and buttons to play with belay how well it works, and how easy it is to use. I would recommend both these items for anyone on a really tight budget who still want to enjoy a decent cuppa.
Loving your videos, thanks for the time you take to make them!
This is a great review! Now you need to review the Barista Express Touch that was just released!
Always enjoy your videos, Chris. Keep up the great work, see you at the cafe soon.
Thank you James - stay fresh!
Another great video! As a BE870 owner I can’t wait for you to dive into the particulars on the OT. Although this machine is $2500 I actually bought the Breville creatista plus just for the automatic steaming wand that comes on this machine at 1/4th the cost. Thanks for dropping some more coffee knowledge on us!
Thanks Max! An update video will come very soon for sure!
Snap! I️ have an older model of this machine and was never completely satisfied with it, this one looks amazing!
Use what you have and be happy! That's my non-salesman type advice
Definitely want to see a full review on this machine!
Review coming soon(ish) - Just need to make sure I get some quality time in!
great stuff Chris!!
loved the vid!
Thanks Isaac!
Please do a full review soon!
Rad. I've always thought that the Breville folks have been doing interesting stuff in the home market and this campaign to get it in the hands of people like you is a really good idea. You have the skills, tools, and mindset to really make good comparisons and as you said "get weird" with it which is something that I think a lot of folks skip with these machines in favor of jumping directly to a Rancilio and separate grinder etc. I've had my eye on espresso for a few years and am between a high-end Breville, a prosumer setup, and the Decent DE1. Will definitely be looking forward to the next installments in this series.
Although, a Silvia PID with a Baratza Vario 886 will set you back $1500: half as much as this machine! Comparing apple to oranges. The price for this Breville will put you in the prosumer setup range. I think it's more geared towards the people who want to get quality results without having to learn too much skills. IMO this is a good compromise between simplicity of a full auto and the quality of coffee you can attain with a semi-auto and skills.
Thanks D! I can't wait to keep using this thing. Trying to use it for long enough to form an actual legit decision for sure!
Nice vid again Chris. I have the Sage Barista Express (UK brand name) and it's great for a novice like me to learn on. Already tempted by the thought of a dual boiler system!
I played with that a little bit and seemed pretty solid for what it was. Keep the party going!
I played with this at the New York coffee fest. Pretty fun and goof proof for home consumer
Exactly. That's the magic market I think they're going for
Awesome video, I just bought this machine.
huge thanks for video, really looking forward to future videos, I cant seem to adjust auto off in settings it seems fixed at .5 hour is it the same on yours ? Thanks again
Cool review! Thanks for helping us make up our minds to get this machine
Manual mood
Have you challenged the machine against your manual skills ?
You mentioned a coffee brand in another video ANSWER, where do I get this coffee you speak of?
What are your final set up settings?
Thanks BRO !!
Full review coming soon... I get it... In the meantime how about dropping this machine in on a 'dialed in'... considered this machine myself, coming from the barista express, but thinking I may have more fun with the dual boiler/smart grinder pro combo...
Cool video, I always recommend it's smaller brother the dual boiler with integrated grinder, to friends that want a compact, but high end home solution! Great "preview" dude.
The Dual Boiler doesn't have an integrated grinder and the Barista Express that does isn't a dual boiler. The Dual Boiler is an excellent machine though!
Thanks! The first couple weeks have been promising
Would you please share more info on what settings you tend to use after lots of practice?
Please do the full review of the breville oracle touch please
great video! i was always wondering about this.
Thank you!
Awesome to see someone like yourself with this machine.
I’ve got the barista express at home and think I can some something decent out of that. Nothing to the standard of what can get out la marzocco, but that’s to be expected with due to price point
Only annoying thing with the express is that is has a 54mm basket
Yeah I'm excited to see how this 58 works - so far so good
Sick. Being a home barista, I love my more hands-on equipment, but I can definitely see how this would be appealing for those who work around coffee all day or the average non-nerdy (about coffee) coffee drinker. Breville seems to be taking good steps in the coffee realm.
Yeah this is definitely geared more towards what we call "normal people" ^__^
Good video. Thanks for sharing
RCB - I use the Breville Oracle (no Touch, buttons), and I've pulled some very nice shots with your Cat & Cloud. I'm in sync with the grind settings and shot temp's you established. Other coffees, much finer grinds (18, 19). I am interested in your additional reviews, as I purchased mine for pure ease of use and time and coffee savings. Overall, I have pulled what I consider to be very nice espresso shots, and have made what I consider lovely cappuccinos and lattes with this machine. I note I am only an aspiring barista, though, and am just starting my coffee journey. Kudos to Breville, IMO, as I've been using this machine with relative success now for over six months.
Review coming soon(ish) - Just need to make sure I get some quality time in!
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Hi, I have the machine since four weeks. The first few days it made wonderful rich espresso with different beans. It runs like honey down the rods of the porta filter and I got a good crema. But now it starts with a thin line of dark espresso and shortly after it switches to a watery light soup which runs in the cup. Cleaned everything, let hot water run through the brewing head. Doesn’t change. Do you have an idea?
Best review of this machine I've seen so far. Cool advances, but I'd still stick with my Breville Dual Boiler just to have full control from A to Z.
Yeah completely different users in mind with those two machines
I thought this has a dual broiler?
Yes, it does have dual boilers like the first version of the Oracle and the Dual Boiler (aka BES920XL) that I'm referring to.
I think you can change the dose.. move the fan up or down.. did it on my oracle
Hey ! Was wondering if you had a chance to come to any interesting conclusions or hacks for the Oracle (if you're still using it)... I'm also really interested in seeing what a shot pulled with a bottomless looks like since the Oracle obviously uses an auto dose and tamp system. Thanks ;)
Hi .. How much you evaluate the self - treadmill that is in the machine .. Is the crusher strong for the espresso machine ! .. How many cups that the machine can prepare in continuous use every day ! .. Does the machine benefit instead of the machine Rocket for home use?
Liked before watching. It will be good 🤙🏻
Harley you're the jam!
Wow. It is more capable than I anticipated. Interested how close it can get to a traditional semi-auto. That would determine if this machine could cater to both the average coffee drinker and the enthusiastic home barista living in the same house.
It's manual override gives you the push button start stop but I think the dose just is what it is. Technically you could use it with an external grinder ^__^
Do you have one on the Barista Express? The frothing on that thing is a bit trickier. I have pulled it off after like a month of use almost to be consistent with it.
I have the barista express. As many others have said. I really like it and it's great for teaching your kids to make drinks. Lol
HA!
It takes several minutes for mine to warm up when I turn it in in the morning
Is there’s a timer function where u can time it to turn on before u get up
Are you happy with the quality of the built in grinder ??? Or do you feel the need to use a high end grinder ???
What milk pitcher are you using in this video? and would you say the pitcher that comes with the machine is poor for achieving latte art? Does a better quality pitcher make a difference for a beginner would you say? sharper spout maybe? This question it to both Chris and anyone else who could help.. Thanks
Whats the real dimention from top cofee holder to bottom. I wanna make sure i have counter space. Thanks in advance
Hi Chris. Did you do a single shot or double shot with 23g of coffee?
I just saw a video on the Breville Barista Pro. What can you tell me about it.
How did you use it with it under the wall cabinets? Or did you move it.
I just drink straight shots and found it difficult to get 1:2 brew ratio in 25 -30 seconds with the Oracle. I am using another machine with a PID and find it much easier to get a perfect shot.
Thanks for the video. You have helped me with setting up the oracle and I now have the oracle touch as well. I can’t get the touch to make decent coffee at all. I’ve gone through bags of beans and haven’t been excited about anything I’ve made. I’m beginning to think the machine is faulty. When the grind and tamp process on the oracle starts it runs for 10 seconds roughly but the touch seems to go for 30 plus seconds. A massive difference between the two. I can’t find a video where someone with the touch shows this process in real time. I need help big time. Thanks Steven🇦🇺🦘
Anyone had experiences with the grinder on the barista express? How is it for home espresso?
Not a comment about the espresso machine, but is that a Liebheer refrigerator in your kitchen? If so, how’s it working out for you? I’ve been looking for something that size but can’t find any reviews on that unit. Thanks!
How much space do you have under your cabinets? I have 18" which is what yours looks like, but the product says it's 18" high and seems to fit well in your spot
I actually looked at this machine when buying mine about 2 years ago, ended up getting a dual boiler semi-automatic though.
Semi-autos are fun times!
Hey can you help me.
I’m so confused, my beans recommended settings on their website says
Shot: double
Input: 20.5g
Output: 38ml
Question I have is how do I make a single shot latte? Wouldn’t a single shot with their ideal settings mean an output of 19g?
Gave up on this machine... stuck with my Astra Pro's manula adjustments
Our machine is not tamping very even/firm, any tips?!
We need a Gail/Chris combo video.
Yes! 🙌
I think she's just being fair to the idea of "you do you."
Also, their personalities would be great to combine.
Hahaha - I'll play with anyone - call her up for me! ^__^
My coffee is too watery, what should I do? Thx
Would love to know the serviceability too :)
Baca geeky videos are the best!
Nerd city
Can't wait for an update to this video! Do you still like it? How have you dialed it in?
I've been using it steadily - want to get a good amount of time with it so I can do an honest assessment
Thanks for the reply - looking forward to it!
So I picked one up on a sale last week. I'm using local, fresh beans, and I'm needing to set the grinder to 39 to produce a 30g double shot in 30 seconds. Does that sound crazy to you?
Looks like you also got a Breville Precision Brewer to replace the Bonavita? I'd be curious to hear if you think it tastes better than the Bonavita. Not hard to beat the Bonavita on features. ;)
I like it more - honestly the biggest thing (for me) is being able to set the bloom time. I love that feature
We recently purchased one of these and noticed no matter what our grinding setting is at around 40 to get it to start pouring at the recommended range of 8 to 12 seconds. Is that really the best way to judge it or should we look at output volume?
I believe there is a way to adjust the burrs to fix this issue....I don't know the technical terms, but you basically remove the top burr, adjust it to the left or right, and what used to be the grind at 40 will be the grind at 20 (as an example). Also - try a few different beans. I have one bean that I have to grind at 39/40 to get the right output/flavour, and another (from the same roaster) that is at 31.
You actually can control the dose; take out the tamper fan and there's a screw on the shaft.
Haha, did you break the wire in the portafilter at 0:42?
nah I was just being a wuss
@@RealChrisBaca He means at 0:41 when pieces of metal visibly shoot out of the portafilter.
can you review the breville precision brewer?
never remind...that was the next video that popped up after this haha
This is one crazy expensive machine... :O
what do you think will be a good start up point to make a flat white or a latte? i tried 26 seconds extraction with the grinder at 36 and got 2oz of coffee or 55ml Thanks!!
grind setting will depend heavily on roast level - I'm getting 33ish ml out at 27 seconds
is the 9 to 12 seconds gap before extraction apply only for espressos or for other coffee flarors as well? like pumpking spices.mocha java or holidays season flavors.......thanks
Great per-review Chris! Just curious....why would you not use the single cup basket? Isn’t that great when doing a single cup? Less waste of coffee?
There are no videos of anyone using the single cup basket. Would be awesome if you would be able to talk about it and give your thoughts about it. I hope you can mention this in the extended review.
I hope you will be able to do this before Black Friday, cause that’s when I’m planning to pull the trigger. :)
Cheers!
Pull the trigger now while prices are cut most places at the moment. My guess is by black friday prices will go back up to regular price.
boicutt not here in sweden ;)
Most single baskets I've tried have bed depth issues (basket not deep enough for the small amount of coffee) They're truncated to try and help but doesn't seen to quite do it. Great vid idea!
So Breville says RO water doesn’t have enough minerals and will interfere with the operation of the machine, heating the water etc. Others say it’s just affects the flavor of the coffee. Which one is it? Seems you use RO at the coffee shop. Why not on a Breville.
Would really love to have this machine. All I do is drink coffee all day long LOL
What type of coffee did you use during the Video? I have an oracle touch and would love to purchase coffee from your shop. Also, do you mind posting the dialed in settings for this machine using your roasted coffee? This would be a huge help.
+1 it would be good if you can post the setting you use for this machine. Although I'm using the non-touch version of Oracle, I think they pretty much the same minus the touchscreen so it would be good if @RealChrisBaca could share the optimal settings he uses on his machine.
I used our blend called "The Answer" catandcloud.com/collections/coffee/products/answer my brew time was set at 27 seconds and I was getting about 30-33 grams out in that timeframe!
RealChrisBaca Hi Chris! What grind setting did you end up using?
Why not use bottled water ?
Happy cat at 1:01 :)
she loves the box life
Beautiful cat 👍
Man.... that machine looks rad.
Shame Australia doesnt sell it here.... :(
Want to send me one? haha
really? that's strange
you were to quick when you explained , did you go coarse or fine ? i got the machine today im not getiing the flow correct its just pouring too much water. its annoying
Would love to see more playing around with the machine, how you dialed in the shot as well. Lets see more! :)
Soon for sure. I want to get a good amount of time with it so I can do an honest assessment
Can't wait!
I'd like to know more about the built in grinder. That was a downside for me
My opinion is nothing compared to Chris', but I think the built in grinder (on the Barista Express) is great for a beginner. I eventually upgraded to a Baratza Vario for grinding which is easier to dial in.
Will do an update vid soon for sure!
I put spring water in my machine never tap water
I like Coffee and Cats
You should do a GIVEAWAY of this machine or get Breville to do one in partnership with you!! We want to win it and try it out!!! ASK them!!! Lol 🙏😜☕️
I've actually thought of doing something like this! Stay tuned...
Of course, its a good machine Breville is an Australian company.......
Don’t you have a mirror?
Lazy buggers like me put a bowl under the head when purging, that way you don't empty the drip tray so often.
That's a good move!
Spring piston lever machine ALL day for me. If Specialty Coffee has gotten to the point where everything is "P-T-B" (Push to brew) and the artform of manual brew is fading into robot brewing, then we had a good 15 years I guess. I for one will remain old school. Who knows, maybe one day someone will be calling ME a hipster. Hah.
Totally agree... I would still have my Cremina (manual lever) if not for severe rotator cuff tendonitis in both shoulders. This push button/weigh everything/check and log every variable crap the weenie tot coffee nerds spout off about is getting old and ridiculous. To me espresso is skill/art form/scientific rolled into one, not push button consistency every extraction.
I think there will always be a market for the retro - Hell L.M. just dropped the Leva machine at HOST! ruclips.net/video/NmAcB01s0xg/видео.html They're just built for two different types of users / experience.
But dude! $2500??? Is the Breville brand is worth it?? People complaint a lot of)))
I have to disagree with Breville on setting shots by time. Makes no sense for a home user with little knowledge.
One day they might have a 10g espresso that will taste ridiculously strong, then next they might have a 60g shot that'll taste watery.
What I reckon they should do is set shots by volume and use a stopwatch to time each shot. Then let the user know if the shot's flow rate was acceptable or not and then recommend a better grind setting.
Know what I mean?
I've been using the manual override button with pretty good success. Time may not be optimal but shouldn't fluctuate shot volume on that scale unless there's something else wildly wrong. Dose is static so you seem to get about the same volume (close enough for regular people) at a certain time frame. I'll post a feelings video soon after I get a bit more time with it but yes - volume based outputs would definitely be better than time bound. Probably a lot more $$$ ^__^
RealChrisBaca I think on the dual boiler you can change the settings to to volumetric control rather than timed when programming single/double shot volume. I'm guessing this may be possible on your machine too?
only $2500
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Another video showing a guy who takes a little bit of time and effort to make sure his hat is slightly crooked. Also, using RO water in the machine is specifically called out as what not to do.