Breville Oracle Touch - 3 Years Later, Was it Worth The Money?
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- I've owned the Oracle Touch for 3 years now and this is my review of its performance. So was it worth the $3,200 price ? The video includes a primer on the various types of home coffee machines and their strengths and weaknesses.
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00:34 Coffee machines 101
02:15 Why pay so much for a "semi-automatic" machine?
04:03 Unloved toys, gathering dust
05:04 Coffee Machine ROI
06:19 What's with the wooden handle ?
07:55 Why such a small hopper ?
08:47 Dual boilers v Thermoblock
11:22 Programmable display
12:21 Below deck + water tank
15:07 Grinder Adjustment
18:17 Make Coffee Not War ! - tips and tricks
27:04 Steam Wand thermometer
28:13 How good is the coffee ?
29:02 Is it worth the money ?
31:05 Addendum - correct coffee dose
Q&A Video:
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Start up time video:
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Cleaning and maintenance video:
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Tamper Fan (dosing) adjustment video :
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This is probably one of the most useful and comprehensive reviews for a product I have ever watched! Good on you!
Thanks Chuck ! I'm glad you found it helpful. 🙂
@@MarksElectricLife We just got the Barista Touch which isn't as fancy as yours but it's nice to be able to make a decent cup of coffee in our home :)
@@chuck6290 Excellent choice ! Enjoy ! 🙂
I absolutely agree with this
Hi Mark 👋 I agree with other comments this is by far the best tutorial I have found. Related to all you said about buying or( more to the point) needing to buy a coffee every day. I have owned my touch oracle for at least 3 years now and rarely buy coffee now. I absolutely love it and yes it is right up there if not surpassing other cafe coffees. When it's finally brewed its last cup it will be replaced the same day. Cheers.
Great video, and very thorough! Breville should be sponsoring you, because, as other people said, you have convinced us to get one. Thank you my friend!
Hi Tony, thanks for the positive feedback. I make these videos only to help others. Whilst it may be nice to get paid, I think it could compromise my objectivity and the advice would be less valuable to others. Enjoy your new machine ! Mark.
@@MarksElectricLife And you do help others Mark. When I'm about to buy something RUclips is one of the places I go to for reviews. I was joking about the sponsorship obviously, but I've seen sponsored videos do much worst at promoting a product, lol! No, yours gave me exactly what I was looking for, and made me aware of little problems that I needed to know about, and which I can live with with this product. Keep making great videos Mark, and thank you!
We've had one for two years, love it and have no regrets buying it... great vid!
Just an update on the previous comment... after 2 years of making "good coffee", I have now adjusted the dose and worked on the grind setting vs the pour... I think I have just made the perfect coffee... Thanks again for the video and elevating us from "good" to "perfect" coffee....
@@kwik-kiwi Hey Craig, thanks for the positive feedback. My goal is to help people get the best results so I'm very pleased to hear you are getting a "perfect" brew now. All the best! Mark.
Well informed review. I have been watching a few reviews but your one helping me in making decision.
Thank you very much for great video.
Thank you ! Enjoy your machine !
Great review. Really helpful and informative. I've been dreaming about getting this machine for years! I like to have done my research so I'm ready for when I win the lottery!! 😆👍
Hi Ben, thanks for the positive comment. I hope you win that big one soon. After all, life's too short to drink bad coffee !😉 Cheers, Mark.
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Excellent Review !! Thanks
Thank you Sudesh!🙂
I've had mine 3 years and it was definitely worth every penny, I'd buy another if it broke
where can you get those wooden handles?
they should be on the machine from start i think
ohh never mind i got it from the description
great information btw
and also important is the water quality
is it possible to put in filters in the watertank?
Great review overall. the calculation of the machine paying itself after a year or so is a bit misleading not factoring cost of: beans, milk, water and water
Hi, the calculation of cost per cup is based on the double shot latte that I makke every day. It includes cost of beans, milk, energy, water and consummables (filters etc.)
When saving a new drink preset, does it let you save the grind size?
I'm afraid not ! It would not be very useful since the grind setting needs to be adjusted to allow for type of beans and how old they are. Even if you use the same bean all the time you still cannot just set a grind and use it every day. As the beans dry out you need to adjust to a finer setting, so a programmed setting would not work. Hopefully this makes sense. Mark.
@@MarksElectricLife sold! Thanks Mark
Thanks for all the videos on the Oracle Touch. You're the one who convinced me it was worth it buying one. And... you were right. I wrote a review here in Switzerland linking your 3 year review. I hope it helps others see if that's the device for them. Keep on with the great work, mate! 👍👍👍
it did brought me here to bw honest.thank for the link..and thanks for the video :)
How has the reliability been for you?
I just got this machine and wanted to say that you’re video is SO HELPFUL! Breville should hire you to do their videos because they aren’t nearly as detailed and comprehensive as yours. Thank you, you’ve shown me so much I didn’t know!
Thank you Rose, you’re very kind!
Nice review, has convinced me to settle for an Oracle, much appreciated
Thanks Rick! Enjoy your new purchase !
It’s convinced me to drive to the coffee shop lol.
Thanks for the review. I have the same machine and love it just as much as you do. A couple of things to add ....... On the positive side, there is a separate hot water spout behind the group head which is very convenient for pre-heating your cups and for making Americano style long coffees. On the negative side, the complexity of the dual boiler system with all its probes and sensors has led to reliability issues with this machine. There are lots of tiny o-seals inside which can be prone to leaks and can cause serious issues with the electronics. The Breville/Sage warranty is 2 years, which is good, but be aware of the possibility of problems. I had a leak in mine after a year which was not visible externally but caused corrosion of the internal electronic board. Eventually, after a visit from the warranty team, the machine was replaced under warranty.
I had the same problem with mine. I owned the Oracle since 2015 which is the predecessor of this one. Breville replaced twice while it was under warranty due to the internal leaking then I sent the last one to be refurbished after just over two years due to leaking. That one lasted 6 months before it started to leak. when that happens the machine trips the circuit breaker and the machine is unusable.
Yeah, I learned that extended warranty is useful for coffee machines. As long a one as you can get. (Currently on the BES980, not this one)
Thank you for sharing your experience, guys.
Totally agree - great machine - but if you use it a lot as we did - it needs service. Fortunately Breville is great at honoring their warranty. We have had ours serviced twice in two years - and that doesn’t sound unusual. I was pretty careful to flush and descale religiously - so I don’t think the problems were due to lack of routine maintenance on my part. It’s a great machine - and pays for itself in less than one year - but it is not uncommon to run into problems due to either scale or the seals leaking.
@meski42 so I'm about to buy the current version of this machine, we'll be using the credit card that gives us extra years on the warranty and making sure that we keep it somewhere safe, lol
Thank you for talking about cost vs benefits. People were getting shocked when I was shopping for $2K machine so then I did mathematical break down for them and their jaws dropped. Sadly, all still went on their lives buying $6 Latte every day because they have a hard time wrapping their heads around spending that money up front, mind you, we get dividend from oil royalties every year and they have no problem dropping that $$$ to keep buying new TV.
Very professional video, subbed. You are a natural. Thanks for the review
Hi, thanks very much for the positive feedback! Enjoy your coffee !😉
You got robbed. That machine was around $2,200 3 years ago. Now is going for $2,700 because it seems Breville is trying to promote their beanz website. If you do the math, their 24 free bags at the 12-16 price tag makes up for the price increase. Too much for free beans with the purchase of the machine. I maintained and baby mine but these machines have a bad o-ring design on the dual boilers. They start leaking steam about the third year mark or so. It makes the machine trip and from there a lot of other issues. Is great when it works.
Really great review, no stone left unturned and good to hear from a real world experience after a few years of use. This definetly helped me make my choice. Time stamps were handy as well. Cheers.
Do you think the Oracle touch is better than the Oracle, or could I save some money by not buying the touch version?
I have owned the Black Oracle (BES980BKS @ $2,500) with the silver dials and the Silver Oracle 'Touch' (BES990BSS @$3,400). Whilst both are essentially the same machine (the older BES980 having adjustment dials and the newer BES990 having a touch screen) and produce great coffee, I have to say that say that for me the 'Touch' was an expensive disappointment!! My reason for this is that the BES980 has the option of volume or time control for the coffee extraction, whereas the BES990 only appears to only have time control (the instructions or internet research certainly don't provide instructions on setting volume control!). In my experience, 30-second double-shot coffee extractions are so inconsistent (30ml-45ml) and, in the absence of volume control, I have to use a glass with 30ml marked on it so I can abort the coffee extraction as soon as the 30ml mark is reached (sometimes up to 5 seconds early!). I hope I am wrong and that you or someone else can advise me how. I could not recommend the 'Touch' if there is no volume control!
Thanks Marc! A fair criticism, although I would say this. If your shot duration is being cut short (either by you or the machine) to achieve a 30ml volume, then the grind is probably too coarse and the flavour is likely to be thin and sour. In the end it comes down to knowing where the grind needs to be set for the specific beans you are using. Ideally, you want to get about 30ml at the end of 30s. Inconsistency will always happen because of the way beans behave as they dry out. Thanks for your input though! It's very interesting to here from someone who owns both machines. I personally think the BES980 is better value at -$900 and will probably get one if/when my machine dies.
We first had a Dual Boiler and then the Oracle over more than 6 years and have never regretted the purchases. It's good reliable gear that gets used everyday in our house. Great review thanks
Thanks Bruce !
I'm thinking of the oracle and keep reading bad reviews.. will be happy with hot delicious lattes.. cheers
Thanks for taking the time to review the Oracle Touch. I found the review very useful and informative, and has helped me decide which machine I'm going to buy.
Hi Thomas, thanks for the positive feedback ! Glad to hear it was helpful information to you. Enjoy your new machine !
Fantastic review, and brings a touch of homesickness (Aussie in the US here). The coffee from this machine is better than most of the coffee available here in Chicago, though there’s a couple of places it equals including one from a company run by a Kiwi. It’s worth noting that all coffee is not equal…that roasted for American coffee is considerably more oily than Aussie/Kiwi/Italian style beans. In some coffee machines, this oil will impede the beans feeding into the grinder, and also tastes pretty average. Just something to note for the global audience. Again, top review, thanks mate!
Hey Dale, thanks for the positive feedback! My only experience of American coffee is Starbucks and frankly I'd rather drink my own urine! That's interesting, what you say about the beans. I always felt that Starbucks were over-roasting and burning their beans and that might explain why there is more oil coming out of them. If you can't find a good roaster in your town, you might try buying your beans raw and using a home roasting machine, like a Gene Cafe. I used to do this before good roasters arrived in my town. Well mate, I hope you make it back home to Oz eventually. Whatever you do, stay out of Starbucks !😉
Nice review! I absolutely loved my Oracle Touch. Totally worth it!
I love my Breville Oracle Touch. I worked at Starbucks for 10 years and wanted a nice machine at home. I did all my research and chose the Oracle Touch because #1 Quality of Breville. I have a Breville Kuerig Coffee machine that after 20 years is still going strong . #2 I wanted the ease of just pushing a button and the fact that It is a dual broiler so I can steam milk and pull shots at the same time. I am coming up on a year with my Breville Oracle Touch and I am still in love. Best decision!!!!!
Hi Carly, glad to hear you're still in love ! 😉
Thanks I use a gaggia classic .
Learning my way on the self brew steps. Possibly a fab machine on usability and saving time.
Thank you for explaining .
Maybe in 25 years I could buy one too.
How do you like your Gaggia Classic Pro? Is it hard to learn how to use and make great coffee???
@@denisejohnson2851 mine is a classic possibly 20 years old .
Definitely not the pro.
It was well looked after and keeps me tinkering on settings for the pump vibration and temperature
Using a pid upgrade.
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Just bought another classic to refurb. Over winter.
Good luck
Happy coffee Day every day
@@antonyhand8542 thanks so much for your response. I’m new to this and afraid it might be too much to perfect coming right out of the gate with no temp and pressure controls .
I absolutely love mine! I’ve had it going on 4 years and use it 2-3 times a day. It performs beautifully.
The worst part of the design is the fact there are 2 boilers.. if you don't use the steam wand daily/weekly.. the water is sitting in the boiler and getting nasty!! Better design would be to SHUT OFF the steam wand boiler when not in use... and just fill it when you want to use it!
Such a great end-to-end summary. Really helpful for someone just arriving on the “what coffee machine should I buy” scene. Thanks 🙏
Thanks for the positive feedback PB ! Enjoy your day !
I love my oracle touch. Would not trade it for all the Starbucks coffee in the world. It pays for itself eventually. This is probably the best $2.5k I ever spent. Have mine for about 5 years now. Love it still.
is there a reason why this make in consitent shots? I use a light freashly roasted coffee I usually wait about 5 days because i use it. But I will get alot inconsitency I might get the correct 1.2.5 ratio at the right timing then the next shot will ether be over or under. with out any changes, the hoper is aways full so no popping occurs but yet it just can't get the shot right every time and its extremely frustrating how much coffee I waste because it gets it wrong.
You look like Seinfeld. Has anyone ever told you that? Great video. Thanks!
Now on machine number three, number one lasted 13 months, number two lasted 20 months. Awaiting machine number three, maybe third time lucky?
Great video for sure! I have one question - how tall of a mug can you fit? You say you take your morning cup to work - I gather you pour into a travel mug?
Hi, thanks for the positive feedback. I did post the max cup height in response to another comment. Yes, I use a traveller mug. So I use a 250ml double walled latte glass for the extraction. Then add milk and coffee to the traveller. Most important pre-heat both glass and traveller mug with boiling water.
Very good review! thanks for the content.
It's also worth mentioning that is advisable to service these machines every two years or so that could cost you around $400 depending on the service. Still worth it, but it does add a little to the costs. :)
Great video, I've spent ages looking at reviews on what to buy and the differences between them. You have simplified this in a digestible way. Thank you.
Hey Chris, thanks for the positive feedback. I'm glad this was helpful! Mark.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! finally a review that wasn't gimmicky and wasn't presented by a try hard. It was balanced, straight forward with good information and I'm very apprecative. Hence, it's why I now have a new Breville Oracle coffee machine sitting on the kitchen bench!
Thanks so much for the positive comment RP. I'm glad you found my video helpful. Enjoy your new machine ! Mark.
Bought my Oracle Touch new fir $2400 in states back in early 2018. Now in late 2023 it finally just won’t turn on. Always did the maintenance. Trying to get inside. I think a capacitor on motherboard went out because last time I had turned it on I heard a loud pop. Not sure if this is even fixable without sending it in.
Damn this guy knows how to do a proper reviews
Sorry guys but I have had TERRIBLE success with the Oracle which is fully made in China. Less than 2 years after buying it I had issues with it to the point of Breville replacing it for me with a brand new machine. Less than 1 yr after getting the new one it has gone for a complete crap again. The bad news this time is that there is only a 2 yr warranty starting from the original date of purchase.
I wanted to get this machine but got talked into getting the Barista Touch which I HATE
Spot on review! Ask yourself are your still going out for coffee? If you are, then you need a different machine. I was still spending additionally $150-$200 a month on coffee. After we bought this machine, we have not been to any coffee shops in over 2yrs. Good long term investment!
I’m about to buy my third Oracle the two previous each have lasted about 5 years before issues - I’m a coffee addict minimum 4 cups a day using this machine makes a coffee caffe quality coffee
Great video. I know it’s older but have you invested in any coffee brewing accessories like a Weiss Distribution Tool, or puck screen to keep the shower head cleaner?
Fantastic video. As the guy below said, probably the most informative and well put together review I can remember watching. Nice job and thanks
Thanks Dave, much appreciated !
Nice video! The Oracle Touch is a bit rich for me, so I'll forego some of the higher-end features (like dual boiler, temperature sensor at the tip of the milk frother, wheels) and order a Breville Barista Touch. I think with a 20% discount, it may be had for USD800 + tax, here in the States. Thanks for taking the time to make the video.
Hey, thanks for the positive feedback. Yeah, it's pretty expensive. I reckon you'll be happy with the Barista, since it still has a proper group head system. It may be a bit more manual but in the end it you won't know the difference in the cup. Enjoy your coffee !😋
I was thinking the same thing. Please share your experience with the Barista Touch!
No sure if US has the Oracle the buttons/non-touch model which is much more affardable. I has almost the same features as the oracle touch and is easy to use.
What do You perfectionists think about water quality, when you use water that is many weeks "old"?
I still think the Machine is way over priced.
The presets are a joke especially if you are very familiar with all the types of drinks it can make..
Loved the explanation on water flow vs grind size... now I have a better understanding than you 😊
Had mine for nearly 10 years and no problem with the original handle.
Thank you. Very informative. Lots of useful tips.
I use felt chair pads for the bottom so I can pull it out from under the cabinet, to add water and corree beans.
What kind of pressure does it brew? 9 bar? Can you adjust the pressure?
What coffee bean are you using? And what is your grind size?
I make my own French press at home so by upping my game I’m not saving money in regard to cafe prices. So I’m going to have to buy it and call it a quality of life choice. 😊
That's the spirit ! 😉
This was really an exceptional review of the Oracle, a great help for someone like me who's upgrading from a Nespresso machine. Thank you!
Hi, thanks very much for the positive comment. I'm very glad you found this information helpful!
Two questions, how long before your machine is ready to brew from when you turn it on? Do you have to wait between preparing drinks, or can you make them back to back?
Heat up time is in my Q&A video. Yes, you can make them back to back with no break.
Link: ruclips.net/video/_YeuG6xcbno/видео.htmlsi=X1GkOTCQIcR_AqgU
Excellent review. Technically good audio ("clip on" mic: good idea). suggestion: fewer hand motions ... it gets a bit disturbing with your the hands waving around for no particular reason (and, I'm Italian ... too much for even me!). Good presentation and solid information. Best Wishes.
Great review, presented very nice. You have a good and clear voice to listen too. The machine is a bit expensive for me at the moment, still very nice review :).
Thankyou for the positive feedback Ryanne. Enjoy your day ! 🙂
thank you, mate. One of the best videos explains how to use your breville. Everything makes great sense now.
Thanks TY, glad you found it helpful!
Hi Mark, Im in WA..do you know the name of the business you purchased the gorgeous wooden handle off?
Hi AL, it's Wilcox - link is in the Description section.
Thank you so much for this straightforward, detailed, honest, easy to understand, very impressive review! It was worth every single minute and I learned a lot! I am still undecided whether to take this model with or the one without touch. Made my decision: It will be a Sage/Breville.
Thanks John for the positive feedback! So, the Touch model is great if you have many people to make coffee for because it can store custom brews. It is also a nice interface to look at and use. That said though, if I were buying tomorrow I would opt for the standard Oracle and save myself $1,000. I don't need the levels of customisation that the Touch affords, since I make the same two coffees every day. Good luck with your choice ! Mark.
@@MarksElectricLife Hi Mark, I think you just made the right point again: I can save my own settings. I just ordered the Touch and I am absolutely excited. Thank you again!
Thank you for some new tips that I will add to my morning expresso.
Best honest review I have watched and I have watched a few! Helped make my decision, I’m getting one! Thank you! Also subbed!
Thank you Stacey! Enjoy your coffee 😉
Handle on our portafilter still good after 3 years. Maybe someone put yours in the dishwasher at some point? It's not dishwasher safe.
I'm the only one who uses the machine and the portafilter has never been in a dishwasher. Maybe just some random manufacturing defect. No big deal. I rather like the timber one.
Thanks for the video, got mine today for 780€ used in very good condition so couldn't resist.
Now just learning how to best use it, so far so good! 😁
At this price how long would this machine last 10+ years ? Plus is it repairable and is there parts readily available?
Hi RS, I can only answer that in another 5 years. So far, so good!...
Parts are readily available for online ordering.
My machine is blocked and it asks me for a password, maybe you know where I can ask for it to be fixed? thank you
Hi, on my machine when you lift the water filling door there is a phone number printed on the underside. You can call this for customer service.
Whenever i make milk for ny first coffee it turns out great, but the second one for my wife or for me just doesnt texture is correct. Have you ran into this issue?
Hi SS, I haven't experienced that issue myself. Are you using fresh,cold milk for the second coffee or reheating leftover milk from the first ?
Thank you very much from same city
Great review and insight to the ownership of the machine mate. I think it's worth a mention that they do require maintenance which will eat into that money your saving by not buying one. I've had an Oracle for 5yrs now however it was for the convenience of having great coffee in my home. Loved it so much we got one for the holiday house too.
So would this be good for a small business not really an expert but would like to sell some coffee using this machine
Hi Ramiz, a few other people have asked this question and you will find my responses in the comments below. In summary, I wouldn't recommend this machine if you intend selling coffee. It would be too slow to make coffees continuously throughout the day (5-10 mins per cup). It could be useful as a "courtesy coffee" machine in an office or showroom where you only need to make 10 or less coffees per hour.
Will the guy in Australia ship handles to California? Please post his contact info!
Probably. His details are in the Description of this video
If you do not use all of the milk, can you put it back in fridge and use again later, or should you throw it out?
Hi Michelle, this is covered in my Q&A video. The link is in the Description section of this video.
Your review is so detailed and helpful!!! Love that double the thumbs up 👍🏻
Thank you SB !
Plastic handle: designed to fail? Probably just my cynicism 😎.
I don't think this is common problem as this is the first time I have heard of the handle deteriorate or crack, my Oralce is nearly 4 years old now and the handle is still perfectly fine.
Really well considered review. I've owned the BES980 (non touch Oracle) since 2016. It is a great machine all round but I've found myself now wanting an upgrade so looking at ECM/Profitec/Rocket/Bezzera machines. They all do what is called HX (heat exchange) single boilers that allow you to steam and pull shots at the same time. I only recently found out that times have moved on since the original single boilers back in the day where you allowed had to have the boiler first reach steam temp for your milk, then you needed to purge the water in order to get the temp down towards correct brew temp.
Thanks Glen! I just had a quick look at the Profitec Pro 500. It has a similar price tag to the Touch but only one boiler. In the review video by Clive Coffee they acknowledge the fact that the heat exchanger is not as accurate at maintaining shot temperature as a dual boiler. So why would you chose this technology (price being equal)? Still, I'm sure these other machines can all make great coffee. Personally, I'm a bit lazy and prefer to have the automatic milk texturing of the Oracle. It means I can get on with making my breakfast while the machine does its thing. I'm usually taxturing 1/2 litre of milk each time (two cups) so that can take a while (2 min approx). Rather be doing other stuff than standing holding a jug and hoping not to overheat the milk. If you do get a new machine please drop a comment on how it compares. Cheers, Mark.
@@MarksElectricLife G'day. No I never go backwards when upgrading :) I'm looking at the dual boiler Profitec Pro 700. I was just bringing to your attention that many manufacturers produce HX boiler machines which allow the user to steam milk and pull shots at the same time. I guess my wider point was that this functionality is no longer exclusive to just dual boiler machines. Oracle BES980 retails for $2500. The Profitec Pro 700 I'm looking to upgrade to is around $4500 + $1500 for grinder. So definitely a big leap.
Great video, I would add two things into the process, 1) Purge some of the coffee ground beans as there is old coffee from previous use from the day before. 2) Run the water thingy as well for a few seconds, it's like a pump that needs priming. I measured about a 50% difference in the volume output by doing this. This is a great machine. Our local repair person here in Hornsby (Sydney) told and showed me (April 2024) that Breville brought out a new boiler in Dec 2023. We had had many issues because of the old boiler (not a person), he replaced it for free out of warranty (I had an extended warranty from Bing Lee though). By the way the coffee in my opinion is better than most cafes. We use Aldi coffee at $15 a kilo and it is excellent, used to use Campos $50/kg and they are very comparable. Our machine is 5 years old in 2 months and the handle is still good. I liked the tip on putting the jug in the fridge, I'll try that tomorrow. I did buy a tamper (and it's a work of art) as well, but I did this as sometimes the machine throws a lot of extra coffee in the cup, but will try the smoothing out. Great video. And yes expensive initially but will pay for itself in no time. Plus I don't think its a good idea driving to the café topless in my boxer shorts, and my wife is not patient :). No coffee shops near anyway. 15 mins each way,
One other thing I don't know about is setting the burr mechanical setting v the electronic setting on the side. I was told the electronic setting ie the wheel on the side is more a refinement compared to the mechanical setting on the burr itself. I was told to set the mechanical part at 6 which I believe is the factory default anyway. Any advise on this would be good. Oh, one other thing, the milk you use I've found influences the taste big time as well. Personal preference, I found GOLD (Australian) is great, but I'd imagine that any full cream milk is great, I haven't really compared them all so not an expert.
Really great review quality, Important points covered, much appreciated! I would like to see an in depth maintenance/cleaning video plz, also I would like to ask have you seen any signs of this machine failing? because I have read some reviews that this machine fails/stops working correctly after around 3 years, Thank you!
Hi Tyrone, thanks for the positive feedback! No, I haven't had any reliability issues apart from the broken handle. That said, I did have some early problems when I bought the machine three years ago. Out of the box, my first machine would not hold my programmed coffee settings in memory. After turning it off and on the stored settings would disappear. Breville quickly replaced that machine under warranty but unfortunately the replacement machine had a different problem. It would over-fill the portafilter basket intermittently (some problem with the dose sensor I suspect). Anyway, Breville again replaced it and the third machine is the one I have today. It was quite a new product back then and I think they may have had some quality assurance issues in manufacturing. I would expect that to be sorted out by now. You will always hear of 'lemons' coming off the production line with any product. It may only be 1 in 1,000 but if it happens to you after you parted with $3,000 then it's pretty disappointing. But then, that's why you have a warranty, right ?
I will add a maintenance video to my To Do list. Watch this space...
I have had my Oracle Touch for nearly 4 years now and we use it every day, I think this is a great machine and has definitely paid for itself. The only problem I have had with it is the steam boiler developed a leak and after a while I would get water build up in the tool tray and on my bench I had to replace the O'ring seals in the steam boiler, when I was in there I replace all of the seals on both boilers, very easy job did myself at a cost of $38 for the parts. while I was working on it I replaced the group head seal also, problem fixed.
For maintenance / cleaning very easy and you will find plenty of videos on you tube in regards to this process.
Hey Tyrone, just made that maintenance/cleaning video. See it here: ruclips.net/video/pW2VoD82wYI/видео.html
Control Engineer here. PID is not a “glorified thermostat”. PID stands for Proportional, Integral, Derivative. It’s a standard algorithm for control loops. Could be pressure , tension, temperature etc. The 3 components are individual tuning parameters for the algorithm.
What do you think of the Breville Barista Touch Impress Espresso Machine in comparison to the Oracle Touch?
It looks like a good machine at half the price. What you're not getting (and not paying for) are dual boilers, automatic tamping and three PID temperature controllers (one for each boiler and one for the group head). The Breville Barista Touch Impress uses a "Thermojet" to heat water, which is a fancy kind of thermoblock. These systems don't provide constant steam pressure and volume. They can work ok for a single cup but not great for making mulitple coffees in a hurry. In the end you are paying half the price and getting less features. That said Breville make very good espresso machines and if the Breville Barista Touch Impress fits you budget I would go for it!
thank you so much! @@MarksElectricLife
Any video of yours that shows de step of descaling this machine pls?
Sorry but I haven't made one. There are others on YT though.
Thanks for great iny
Do you have a preference of boilers or thermo blocks?
Thanks Joe! I prefer boilers as they give more even steam pressure.
Hi. How has the reliability been? I guess you have had it for 5 years now. Any major issues?
Thanks for the video!
Hi, as shown in the video I had to replace the plastic group handle with a hardwood one. Cost me around $100. I consider this an upgrade. Also replaced the brew head screen about a year ago. Spare part from Breville cost me about $20. Otherwise it's been 100% reliable.
Sounds awesome. Thanks for hte reply!!
This is one of the worse machines at this price point.
The water tank is definitely not 3 or 4 litres. It’s 2.4 litres. Lasts me about 4-5 double shots (Americano), so not sure how you only have to refill yours every other week?!
Well done mate, your video really helped me to decide which machine to get... thanks for posting this really informative video.
Thank Mate! Enjoy your new machine👍
Can you provide a link to the manufacturer of the wooden handle?
Hi Michelle, please look in the Description section for this information.
For that money you can buy a very good heat exchange unit like Profitec pro 500 and good grinder. Performs just as good if not better plus looks way better.
Hey Mark. Loved your video, and your love for coffee and perfection was painted all over. Upgrading mine from délonghi to sage/breville soon. Have asked my friend to to get it. Cheers and keep making cool videos.
Thanks TI ! Enjoy your new machine! 🙂
It is know almost 4 years since you got the machine. any issues?
Hi Suleiman, I had one small problem over the past year. I had to replace the shower screen that sits inside the brew head. It had a crack in it and was causing the brew basket to stick to the group head. I ordered the part from Breville and it cost me around $20. Replacing it was easy. Just one hex screw to remove. Having to spend $20 on a repair after 4 years, I would say is not too bad. I'm still very happy with my purchase ! Cheers, Mark.
I would like to know if you have already tested the water temperature which is indicated at 200F? My Oracle says 200F but I can only have 187F left. Thanks
Has the machine been reliable? No need to ever take it to the repair shop?
Yes it has been very reliable. Any maintenance I have been able to do myself without going to a repair shop.
Aside from the space consideration, I find the hopper bigger than I need even for the 2 coffees/day I make on mine. I usually don't fill it completely and prefer to keep no more than 1 weeks worth of beans in it as they become noticeably staler beyond that.
True. But the machine loses its consistency as the weight of the beans in the hopper becomes lighter without refilling. This results in popcorning which gives you an inconsistent grind. This is why I try to keep my hopper as full as possible. So gravity can do its thing.
Very informative, thank you, Mark. 👍
You're welcome! 😊
I use glass cups and pre heat them in the microwave 30 sec, before I make the latte. I see your cup is probably not microwave friendly thought.
After frothing the milk I get a separate jug and hit the steam button again for two seconds before canceling it , this way the left over milk is emptied in the cup and doesn't spray all over the machine when it auto cleans plus you don't have milk stains/grime building up in the water waste catcher, just something I do. And than after the shot is finished run a single shot mode without the handle in to clean it of any coffee grinds that get left behind...just a few tips for anyone who might care..☺️
Appreciate your video really helpful.
When you see people pouring loads of milk in their coffee, it's an indication that they know nothing about real coffee flavor.
Hello
Gastroback 426616 or DeLongi Ecam 23.466s which do you find better?
I have this machine for 3 years now and it's fantastic. Got to buy good beans as that obviously has a big influence on the coffee, but we make better coffee than most cafes at home and use it everyday.
Nice review with good simple tips to improve the quality of the coffee and milk froth. You convinced me to place my order for an Oracle touch after seeing this.
Very good practical and understandable info Thanks!
Apparently an older review, but still good...no warmer on top of my 2023 touch screen
and like that this is not so much of an advertisement to make money,,,