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@@TheLoreLodge Thanks...I sent you a recommendation just a minute ago...I was going to send it to Goon but I figured I would see if you would consider it, due to your tenacity of History. Ajax Out
I love how everyone acts like it's a mystery when they carved Croatoan in a tree & their was an island south that was literally called Croatoan (modern day Hatteras Island, NC) where a friendly tribe (of the same exact name) lived that the colonists had befriended & traded with. So when John White couldn't return with supplies (due to England's war with Spain) they OBVIOUSLY went & tried to find the only people they knew that could help them not starve to death. Now, did the colonists make it there successfully is unknown because White NEVER was able to check due to complications with the boat when he tried to sail south to the island. Their is rumors of a Native tribe that had blue eyed members with lighter complexions than your normal American Native would have normally had so it's very plausible they integrated with the Croatoan people
I believe the integration theory here. It just makes the most sense given the data we have. Peaceful mergings of unrelated groups of people has happened uncountable times in our history. It's just something we do.
I agree. To me there is no mystery here & would not label it with the 411 cases of the missing. This is taking something that clearly has an answer & trying to make it into something it's not. There are many unexplained missing people with no explanation this is not one of those cases imho.
It's really just racism lmao. For centuries even up to now people are willing to entertain literally any theory except for the clear signs that they just integrated with the natives
I wanna like your comment but 'their' means 'belonging to them', how do you even get that mixed up with there, if "here and there" is only 1 letter apart
The english of the Elizabethans was modern english. Not contemporary, but modern. Old english was that of the Anglo Saxons, middle english was the old mixed with french and latin, and, by Elizabeth I, it had evolved into modern. The Elizabethans had a surprisingly good literacy rate and were very playful with their language. Different variations of spelling were considered the sign of an educated man (although frustrating for today's student reading Shakespeare).
It was different back then. Pronounced different, spelled different, had words we don't today, different rules, etc. Thee thou, all that, those are words from a different language, and that was the language of back then. Shakespeare's English is what they spoke and it's not the same language we speak today.
@@Lauren-ri9uh Mine does sometimes actually, not sure why. Or it keeps playing some random channel over and over; one day I woke up to the History Channel all over my recommended page and was so confused. I quickly realized why... Last night it was the alien hearings... I have no idea either. I did you one better though. On the mobile app click the top right for your youtube account, go to "settings," next "general," and then you can use either "Remind me to take a break" or "Remind me when it's bedtime." I literally just googled this for you lol; I don't know how effective it is. I'll try it out when I go to sleep lol Edit: yep it works
"Lusty" in this context actually makes perfect sense if you think about it. Lust is passion. The men were passionate about adventure and exploration. "Lust for battle" is a term still used today, albeit somewhat obscure if you're not into military stuff.
As a Native American, who was a Forestry (and Wildlife Conservation) Major in College. We can't even pronounce some of those native names/words. I can safely say also, that Rootbeer is made from sassafras as well as candy. Yes, the Cherokee considered Sasquatch to be another type of people. That's exactly what we are told. That they came and helped us with the planting and harvesting of crops, and as winter approached, they headed back over the Mountains to the west or North for the winter. They had their own language as well. My other tribe that I belong too is from the Nova Scotia area, but moved around a lot, but we are very white skinned. My brother even has blue eyes. The Tribe is all this way. Pre-contact. We figured a Viking was thrown into the mix at some point between Nova Scotia and living along the Great Lakes. It wasn't anyone else, b/c we fought the English. The Brit. General wrote about us being a formidable foe. That quote is on our monthly newsletter. I don't recall the English General's name tho. OH lookie, I have a newsletter right here...lol. I'll spare ya. We traveled the St. Lawrence and ended up in the Ohio River Valley. Then History picks up, as we are now located in Oklahoma. I took genetics and know how it works. We are pretty damn indian, yet very white. Makes no sense. We are both Cherokee and Wyandotte (Wendat-Huron Confederacy) Old English is hilarious. S, looks like F. There's a Brit com where they are reading from an old English Bible, and the girl gets to the word "sucker", and she already had problems with the letter, and when she gets to that word, the Priest stepped up and put her hand over her mouth and said SUCKER...cuz you know she was going to say FUCKER haha.
There is also an Eastern Cherokee Band in North Carolina. The Oklahoma Band of Tsalagi accepts matrinlineal line descendancy rather than blood quantum of at least 1/4 so tribal enrollees can have very little actual Cherokee bloodlines. I have friends in the Oklahoma Cherokee tribe and my stepson is Cherokee on his mother's side. So they can look white passing. There is no modern phenotype for Native people but if you claim to be a tribal member then you should know your tribal language, customs and ceremony as part of your participation in your culture instead of holding up your CDIB card and enrollment card as proof that you're Native.
Sassafras tea was made in VA when I was a kid. Me and my brother would walk along the road and climb up the bank and break off a twig of sassafras and chew on it. Our great aunt was with us and had taught us what it looked like. Now I don't remember what it looks like. There used to be a gum that tasted like that to when I was a kid. I'm trying to remember the name. I've not seen it in stores for years. Maybe teaberry gum was the name.
2 of my friends were part native and sisters when I was a kid. One had blond hair & green eyes & one had dark brown hair and green eyes. When I was 15 I had a new friend. The family was part native and had moved from Penn. My friend had a twin sister who was not identical. My friend had light brown hair and brown eyes and her sister had black curly hair & black eyes. They had many siblings. All had dark hair & eyes except one man. He was like my friend. Their mother told me I think it was Cheyenne tribe. I have forgot but it started with a C. Was not Cherokee. I remembered that because Cherokee is my favorite tribe and Apache. The mother was who had the native blood. The father told me and mom when we went for a visit that he was kin to the Shupes thru the Whites. My great grannys sister was married to Mr White. We visited both of them when I was a kid.
I really enjoy your channel for the fact that you actually take the time to really research in depth, and put effort into giving a factual historical video. It is not only enjoyable but is a chance for us to learn more about actual history. Thank you!
@@TheLoreLodge I am genuinely and sincerely curious about this because I had no idea a medieval history degree was even a thing. What sparked the interest and aside from making epic content on RUclips and other platforms, what other avenues can it be applied to, education or otherwise? Also I apologize if these are silly questions. I don't get out much, haha.
@@chzybean I’m a little late but a medieval history degree can be helpful with landing a good museum job (curator or director), being an archivist or historian, and of course being a professor or teacher.
After watching this, I so hope you do a video on the lost Franklin Expedition. I mean, we basically know what happened to them, but more and more is being uncovered even today and it is so fascinating! The ships have only been found in the last decade, and only properly excavated in the last year or so. The local Inuit oral history around the men of expedition is pretty in depth, I just haven't had the chance to go through it. I really hope it's as interesting to you as it is to me, and that you'll do a video on it.
Oh man I bingewatched and read everything about the Franklin expedition a few years ago, it IS fascinating. One question that really bugs me is: who were the few men reportedly seen still walking south around 1850, what exactly happened to them and how close did they actually get to making it out before... ending up "never to be seen again"?
At just before 8:40 when you describe the guy reading and the ship capsizing and sinking, with everyone on deck, no survivors it makes me think of Jack Sparrow's "No survivors? Then where do the stories come from, I wonder?"
A ship sets sail from Amsterdam to Boston, allegedly loaded with bitches and hoes and gold and ferarri`s. A letter has been send in advance to bosten to inform them about this shipment and when it will set sail. Unfortunately, the schip never reaches boston and no one ever saw any of them bitches or hoes or gold. Word on the street is The ship sank becaus the bitches started racing the Ferrari`s for the gold on the deck of the ship causing serious damage eventuality sinking the ship. This is however speculation. A information vacuum leads to speculation. you dont always need a messenger, sometime the message is the absent of a message. Sometime a message comes in the form of a dog turd on your bed.
I think he pretty clearly told that there were multiple ships. But not close enough to manage to rescue somebody drowning on wild ocean during storm. That is kinda hard to do even today. They had visibility enough to see the ship sinking but visibility was very likely not enough to see somebody trying to swim if he managed to jump from the sinking ship. Plus during the storm it is also hard to even keep yourself above the waves and without something to hold on you can drown pretty quickly if you are not extremely lucky like being close to shore to be kicked there by sea.
This is one of the best deep dives into Roanoke I have ever seen! Thanks for all your research into this! When I was in high school, the history and English teacher worked together to have us learn about this chapter of history and then had us write a creative stories about what we think happened to the Roanoke colony. We came up with some wild ideas from witches to time travel lol
Sassafras is a wonder drug, according to my old grandmother. If we complained of a headache, we got a dose of sassafras tea, which is a really good laxative...My grandmother believed that most headaches were caused by being constipated. We learned to be careful about complaining around her. Strange little thing I remember. Waaay back when I was in grade school, we learned about Roanoke and there just happened to be a girl in our class named, Virginia Dare. Strange the things you remember after 65 years.
Hehehe that reminded me of the time I was on a school field trip (a 3 day one - I went to a tiny private Christian school as a kid) where we stayed and did projects around the 4H research center on Jekyll Island... one of the workers pointed out a plant and said you can try it - small nibble - as it tastes like carrot tops smell. One kid shoved a bunch in his mouth trying to be the class clown and she hadn't finished her sentence yet, just turned around and kept walking until he had consumed most of it when she turned back and said, "It's also a really strong laxative". Boy started sputtering out the last remnants and we all laughed (not in a bullying way, but just like "lol good luck bro"). I do believe he experienced some consequences later that evening, but I do not know for sure since girls and boys were separated at night, ofc
I'm not a long-time viewer, so I'll admit i had skepticism about how outlandish the points in this video would be -- Roanoke is one of those mysteries that I learned about in school through blatant lies and wierd conspiracy theories-- but I'm genuinely impressed at the research and dedication that went into this video, the evidences you sited, and how you demystified the "oooh spooky unsolved disappearance" that public education taught me about this historical tidbit. Excellent work and content, keep up the good work.
As a native from Chesapeake I appreciate some of the pronunciations especially Manteo. Of note there is a town named after him but is pronounced Man Tea O. Hatteras island has a shorter S sound. Appreciate the video. Been there multiple times.
Man, I'm so glad the algorithm showed me your videos! Binge watched them all and I was looking for part two of this video! I love the mystery of Roanoke and the mystery of Oak IslandI hope you cover that too!
Mountain apes is pretty odd, if it isn't a misunderstanding. I used to be a firm Bigfoot nonbeliever, but this channel has me considering that there may have been something in the past that started the legends.
They're straight up here today. Could be an animal or a spiritual entity. Not sure. But there are animals claimed by tribes in remote rainforests and jungles we say were there thousands of years ago. And these tribes don't know about ancient history or commonly accepted theories. They just see it and say it. On top of that, multiple animals have been thought extinct and then found in modern day. By my name you know I believe in God, so you know I don't believe in evolution, but I believe they have skeletons of bipedal apes they inaccurately attribute to human evolution, Bigfoot could absolutely be a descendent of bipedal apes. And could absolutely be in the relatively unexplored wilderness of many national parks and remote forests in low numbers. To think so many grown and sane people are mistaking something they say they clearly saw, or to say they're all lying, is equally as outlandish a thought as Bigfoot itself. It's a convenient copout to not accept something hard to prove, imo.
In general, I don't believe in Bigfoot either But I've seen pictures of brown bears suffering from mange, and if those get on their hind legs... i could see how that too could be mistaken
I lived in obx. It's hella weird knowing these people disappeared and I walked the grounds they were probably on. But also the coast line is constantly eroding and being refilled with dump trucks of sand so there's probably no telling how far the coast truly lied at that time. I worked in the Corolla light house and got touched up on history there.
Dude I'd love to live in Nags Head. But I looked at land prices and holy shite. There was a piece of land on the dunes and it was only a third of an acre and it was $1.6 million. Maybe one day....
@@thegamingwitch yeah I lived out there for 5 years as a renter and left about a year ago. The rent for me went from 1200 w/,o utilities to $1500 before I left. It truly was a more beautiful place. Now the westerners from Cali and those areas- not to mention Jersey and Pennsylvania people- started scooping up land (buying properties) shortly after our new president and that's why there is an inexplicit hike of price out there. Not a single local is happy anymore when it comes to living... But that's my update. I still recommend people to either find a buddy that lives close by off the island or find a hotel off the island That is the most efficient pleasant way of having an outer Banks experience nowadays if you aren't financially set for it :/
@@RobBoss757 The bad outsiders that ruin it all. Kind of makes you hope to find a nice house that’s haunted so no outsider would want to live there. 😂😂 With history like what’s in this video, you gotta think a lot of that land has got to be severely haunted. I’d be good with it. 😁
@@mikaelafox6106 ahh I see you've been aquatinted to the tourons. And yes. I'd have to say it is haunted to a point. That's my opinion though. Usually people there tend to focus on work and play. I only met a few locals that didn't and either they never brought up any experience or they lived off the island. Really doesn't leave much room for a a perspective to paranormal stuff when you're too keen and focused on those two goals though. Again my personal opinion
@@RobBoss757 Well I don’t live in that area, but I’ve seen enough outsiders in my own city. They’ve raised property values because they thing it’s no big deal to pay $200,000-600,000 for a house that shouldn’t be more than $150,000. If I could afford to live in an historical city, I’d do my best to integrate into the local culture, that’s for sure! ☺️
Hey history nerd here. Small correction in 38:28 you said Sir Francis Drake couldn't have brought the slaves back because slavery was illegal on the island of Great Britian itself. While that is true, it was almost never enforced for members of high society unless you pissed the wrong person off. For example, all the way up to the late 1700s we actually see members of the nobility and high society offer rewards in newspapers for capturing escaped slaves. So, in all honesty it is very likely that Drake did bring the slaves back and sold them but didn't record them officially just in case someone looked into his dealings.
As you correctly pointed out, it was their differences in copper-refining that drove a wedge between the Croatoans (cold-hammering) and the Incans (smelting). Also, the Croatoans’ coining the phrase “he who smelt it, dealt it” didn’t help things, either.
Very good presentation, I really like that you went deeply into the history of the colonization of the area to give context. Most just go straight to the lost colony.
One of the main reasons I think studying history, of whichever period or place, is very important: it teaches the sense of context. Why does this matter? Because one cannot possibly understand why things are as they are now, without knowing how they got that way. That is context. Unfortunately, many people currently seem to lack - or are choosing to not use - the ability to understand context.
The amount of likes and comments on this video compared to the amount of views is downright disrespectful. This man is a damn researching master for us, show him more support!! ❤
The Knights of Columbus pushed for Columbus Day to tie Italian immigrants to America’s past, because they were the prosecuted immigrant class of the day like the Irish before them. They weren’t being placated at all. It was a defense mechanism. The story you described may have been emblematic of the issues they faced. but it wasn’t a single inciting indecent. Im also Italian American.
I’ve always been fascinated by Roanoke as I’m a NC native. I have always wondered if my ancestors were in the Americas that early. This past year I took a DNA test and it determined that my ancestors on both sides of my family migrated to NC from England in the early to mid 1700’s. It’s not quite as early as I was hoping for but it’s still really cool to think that my family has been living in the same area for the past 300 years!
I was raised on the coast of VA right at the N.c. line. I was adopted and found out later in life after the internet come along and DNA that my great grand parents was a Russian who escaped after the zar fell and married a German butchers daughter and came to the United States but their son married a woman last named hunt from West VA. But through DNA apparently my grandmother was descended from pochantas's sister which name I'd have to pull out papers to remember so this stuff just amazes me! Like another person said, it's an amazing feeling knowing I have run in the same tracts as ancestors of mine. It's a good feeling!! I grew up running around nags head and Hatteras and Williamsburg, Jamestown and Yorktown! I'm 63 now and am so grateful to have been raised where I was
English Teacher here: Your use of "ostensibly" here is good. Maybe not 10/10, but 9.5, 10 with some more confidence. Good job on the 17thC wordage, BTW. Never an easy thing!
Easily the most comprehensive treatment of the Roanoke story I've ever seen. Years ago I read a book called "Roanoke: Solving the Mystery of the Lost Colony" by Lee Miller, which seemed to have been very well researched. The conclusion she came to, as I remember, was that the missing colonists belonged to a religious sect called the Brownists, and that the crown essentially wanted to get rid of them by just dumping them on an island and hoping the Spanish would wipe them out. You seem to have stuck as close as possible to verifiable facts, but I wondered if you had come across this part of the story in the course of your research?
Aside from the purported medicinal benefits, sassafras is also really tasty to make a tea or syrup with. Sassafras soda is like a lighter, more herbal version of root beer. Or like birch beer but more earthy. Very tasty, and totally safe when you use the right parts. It also contains eugenol, an anesthetic that can be used to make mdma.
It's also used to make Gumbo File, which is basically ground leaves into a fine powder. It was also the original way to make Root Beer, the roots from the plant are used to make it. Hence the name, Root Beer. Lol
On top of what you said about the size difference between that era of musket, they were most likely also Matchlocks, which means the fire using a lit cord instead of the far more reliable Flintlock system.
lol i have not heard the word "heathen" since my grandmother passed in 1986. in the 1970's i spent time with her during grade school summer vacation; she had a specific dislike for a few of the neighbor familys and refered to them by "what a tribe" or just "heathens". great summary of the lost colony.
I'd love to see a deep dive like this into the failure of Jamestown. That's such a -story-. Also, the apes in the Mountains thing threw me. Can confirm as someone from the WNC Apps, no apes here. Could be Bigfoot type things. Could be a misunderstanding of pumas, but they'd probably have said 'lions' for that one.
Wait how was Jamestown a failure when it was the first permanent colony that settled the new world? It came after the Roanoke Colony. The Roanoke Colony was the failure while Jamestown survived
@@sarahhannush1466 I have potential relation to John Smith (distant if true, and if so through his siblings, as Smith never had children), and I can shed some light on that due an aforementioned interest on the subject. The long and short of it is that Jamestown under John Smith's leadership was colonized by primary "second son" types; these were the sons of nobles and/or landowners who would receive nothing of inheritance upon their fathers' deaths. The inherent problem that came out from this was that a whole bunch of these people were so used to servants doing all the manual labor, that they really weren't motivated to work and actually make the settlement function. So John Smith had to resort to drastic measures. He locked up all of the gun powder and made an ultimatum - "those who shall not work shall not eat". This _really_ did not go over well, and mutiny was an almost constant threat. Ultimately, one night while Smith was checking on the powder, someone attempted to blow up the hold with him in it. While surviving the obvious murder attempt, Smith had serious burns that could only be properly treated in England. He left on the next ship back, and in the end never returned to Jamestown. As to the morons, they started celebrating that Smith the Tyrant was finally gone, and things were run how they felt it should have been. They all died of starvation and exposure soon after during the next winter, as they idiotically didn't take Smith's farming and hunting lessons to heart. Thus the first settlement of Jamestown fell.
Personally i like the theory thrown forward by the movie "Roanoake the lost colony", that ancient evil viking wraiths killed the colony. Makes things more fun.
The root from Sassafras is used by KY. Tenn. NC. West VA. and Virgina peoples for Tea. It tastes like Root beer. I have even seen this tea sold in my home state KY. and even PA,, where I currently live. Really good Tea!
Sassafras is the traditional flavoring of root beer, specifically the roots. It isn't used any more today due to concerns about the main flavoring compound, sasafrole, being potentially carcinogenic. Might be a good idea to cut back on the tea, though the studies on the carcinogenic effects of sassafras aren't conclusive.
LETS GO!!! I always get hyped when someone talks about the Roanoke Colony. Also if yall ever in the Outer Banks, especially in the summer time, go down to the Roanoke Island and go see the Elizabethan Gardens. They're so gorgeous. We go every year.
I live in Manteo, so I get the opportunity to go, and see these things that are normal to me, and mind blowing to others😂 next time y’all come down, go see the play
Really enjoyed this episode. There is nothing better than a history story you can actually relate to yourself and have a type of connection to. I am descended from one of the Delaware tribes, family settled in Jamestown in the early settlement days. And even went to Roanoke (bucket list item ticked off!) to see the colony site. Aiden is also a great presenter as well and I am more than happy to listen to him talk for hours.
I’m digging the actual History they don’t teach or have tried to erase. 💯. I appreciate you serving out the knowledge. I am member of the Lee family in VA. Richard Henry Lee is my 5th great Gpa on my moms side. On dads side is Sir John Hawkins and Sir Francis Drake - There is also a book in the National Archives - you can also google and read it online - The Burritt Family in America. The Book starts with My 10th Great Gpa , I’m not sure if it is Sir or Lord 😂 William Burritt , I can’t trace the Boat he came on because he owned the ships I’m thinking. He was also a Templar (fun fact) He and his family arrived in America pre 1630 Keep up the detailed good 👍 work !!!! They are trying to erase the History. So from my heart -- Thank you 🙏. Keep educating people or we will LOOSE our past …….. Our past , present , and future is what makes us who we are. The Good and the Ugly. 💯
58:20 "diverse" in that context simply means "a varied collection" indicating it was of several different types of gear, supplies, and equipment, as opposed to recovering only chests of, say, gunpowder and muskets.
Me: Seriously interested and listening to the video Also me: Giggling like a schoolgirl after hearing the word, "Pinas." Love the video, keep it up~! You always have solid videos, and I know I can always rely on those involved with this channel to bring their A-Game as well as every game from B to Z. Even a few symbols, like .!?¿¡. I'll always watch the videos if you keep putting them out. Thank you for doing this, it will always be appreciated.
Fun fact: the oil of sassafras is a compound called mda …. The more mild sister/cousin of the chemical compound mdma Source: I used to party a lot in Miami in the early 2010s and it was all the rage over there.
My personal roanoke theory was that no one ever lived in the roanoke colony. The just kinda threw the guys that supposedly lived at roanoke overboard as soon as they were away from shore and then just built the colony and left. Then they come back a few years later and act shocked. This way they get a bigger boat, more funding, and more supplies for less people. (This theory was born from me being pissed at my social studies teacher)
LOVE the episode!! You nailed it! As a native coastal North Carolinian, let me help you....Manteo is locally pronounced Man-e-oh and Wanchese is Wahn-chees! They have a very unique dialect out there and I'm not a local to the OBX but Ive been several times. Sometimes you can barely understand them!
Sassafras is a tree. When young, the roots are dug up and used to make tea. It tastes a lot like root beer. A lot of people make it here in the rural Midwest. I hate root beer, so I'm out of luck, but it looks very pretty (tea is a dark red color). Love your channel and super interesting research on Roanoke I hadn't heard before.
You know what this reminds me of? Oak island, the templar crosses and weird constructions there. Did they end up going further north and attempting to settle up there or something? Cannon shots being removed seems to suggest a ship having been there
Man really great content I literally thought of this title when I had my channel I filmed there multiple times. Once it was really eerie when the mist rose around the camp. A storm blew in too
I live in southestern VA. We have a ton of roads and spaces with Native American names. Listening to folks not from around here pronounce the names is always fun- It's how we know who the tourists are. Srsly though, would absolutely recommend visiting the Outer Banks. There are some really cool things to see. The Lost Colony is a long-running play about Roanoke that is worth seeing!
Thanks so much for talking about this in detail. I have always been fascinated with this story ever since i first read about it in my history books when i was in 4th or 5th grade.
There is a rather dark aspect theory I grew up with in regards to why the bodies were never found....at least not in the form you would think. The dark theory is that the bones (That which would not decay like the rest of the bodies) were actually used in some altering manner. By one of the unfriendly tribes. Be it turned into tools or weapons, or in some other manner. Its a theory and would explain the difficulty in finding the bodies.
Ummm... sassafras is the primary flavor of root beer. Even today, despite the fact that actual sassafras is no longer used to flavor root beer, sassafras "flavor" is still what gives it its main flavor. It's kind of unbelievable that you didn't know this!
@@TheLoreLodge , Nope, sarsaparilla is its own separate carbonated drink that's traditionally made from the Smilax plant. All you have to do is just bite into a little sprig of sassafras (or just break it open and smell it), and your reaction will almost certainly be "oh, root beer!"😁🍺
ahhh i love your videos. i’m from newfoundland and it’s a pet peeve of mine about how people pronounce my province. it’s pronounced new FOUND land not new finland. one small thing other than that is awesome!!!!
I feel like it's just the time thing. So so so much time passed between the first leaving of White til people finally really looked into it. Anything could've happened in FIVE years, let alone how much time actually passed! There's just no way of really knowing everything that happened
Which is funny cause there is evidence to suggest that the colony due to various environmental reasons decided to integrate themselves with a local native tribe and moved. There were sightings around that time of a Tribe of natives that had white settlers living among them. The descendants of a tribe in the Roanoke area have European DNA. It's nothing above circumstantial evidence but it makes the most sense.
This channel somehow came into my feed . I love the way you break the story down and explain everything. I can tell you did your due diligence and did alot of research. I subbed looking forward to more uploads I'm going to check your other videos out after I watch this one .
Love the content. Mostly listen on Spotify while driving. Though being from Michigan I disagree with your view on the Dogman, had an experience that fits what is mentioned in the legend
Sassafras root used to be used to make root beer and even today Sassafras leaves are used to make File Powder in Louisiana, a spice/thickening agent used in some gumbos, a contribution from the Native Americans. It can also be used to make a tea, but it is not considered safe to drink for the same reason commercially available root beer doesn't use it anymore, safrole, a poisonous compound that can cause liver disease and cancer. this compound was also used as a flavoring agent, in medicine, chewing gum, toothpaste and soap.
Yeah I’ve heard of that, summary research suggested that the story was completely made up much later. I’ll do some more research on it when I do our History Hut channel video on Wales
I've watched a couple videos covering this topic, but this one was by far the best. I'm sure it is entirely due to you using the primary sources, disentangling them, and also your great question: apes in the mountains? There seems to be growing evidence that protohumans actually crossed the land bridge into North America when it opened up around a hundred thousand years ago, and we know homo erectus is pretty big and tall, so it's fascinatingly plausible that the natives actually caused the extinction of them.
Pretty sure this was solved years ago. they left to live with the natives. By the time the boats came back they were far inland and didn’t know about it. When Europeans came to colonize again, they were surprised to find some very white skinned natives amongst the locals.
My family hails from early VA to WV. Sassafras was usually made into tea and used for UTI and colds. You could crush the leaves and place around your vegetable garden to keep critters away. Also, you can crush the leaves and make like a potpourri to freshen up a room. You have to be careful handling the leaves.
Actually, the troops in Zulu(and in real life) used the Martini Henry rifle, NOT a musket. This is significant because it was a breach loading rifle that fired premade brass cartridges, like the ones we are familiar with today. Any kind of musket had an extremely long reload time. The Martini Henry could be fired, reloaded, and shouldered to fire again in seconds, opposed to a musket that took minutes. This new kind of rifle allowed a small contingency of troops to produce a previously unheard of volume of fire.
I was born and raised in Tavistock, Devon. This is close to where Sir Francis Drake (Armada 1588) was from (it's 15 miles north of Plymouth). There is a large statue of SFD in the centre of a roundabout in Tavistock. When I was a teenager (am now 50yrs) we had a Spanish boy living with us for a couple of weeks to learn English. He was fiercely patriotic and blamed the defeat of the Armada entirely on the weather (partly true). I made sure that I drove around that roundabout with him a few times. Childish but fun.
My take on the apes in the mountains thing is that it may have been a misunderstanding/mistranslation. A lot of books from that time period are just straight-up wrong. Writers had a habit of including things that they thought they heard somewhere, or things that seemed correct, or things that totally happened to their cousin's uncle's friend's grandmother.
I researched all of this a few years back (or rather, read other, much more intelligent people' research😂) and my firm belief is that they were attacked by the " friendly" tribe, men killed, women and children abducted, which would have resulted in "some natives having blue eyes". I think it's all rather simple. Native tribes were quite capable of warfare; they waged war with other tribes on a regular basis and took slaves. This was a time of conquest and military campaigns at the dawn of the discovery of the New World for the European; everything points to this and even the carvings in trees show it pretty clearly -when an ambush happens at night, there isn't much time to scribble crosses, and the most important thing to tell those trying to find you is who had attacked you.
We teach it in 8th grade now too! Great video! So glad some kid remembers their teachers DID "teach this in school", they just weren't paying attention.
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@@ajaxslamgoody9736 yes sir
@@TheLoreLodge Thanks...I sent you a recommendation just a minute ago...I was going to send it to Goon but I figured I would see if you would consider it, due to your tenacity of History. Ajax Out
I'm a heathen heathens like me follow norse paganism and one of its names is heathenry
Ok wonder why so many claim noone has figured what Croatoan meant
I love how everyone acts like it's a mystery when they carved Croatoan in a tree & their was an island south that was literally called Croatoan (modern day Hatteras Island, NC) where a friendly tribe (of the same exact name) lived that the colonists had befriended & traded with. So when John White couldn't return with supplies (due to England's war with Spain) they OBVIOUSLY went & tried to find the only people they knew that could help them not starve to death. Now, did the colonists make it there successfully is unknown because White NEVER was able to check due to complications with the boat when he tried to sail south to the island. Their is rumors of a Native tribe that had blue eyed members with lighter complexions than your normal American Native would have normally had so it's very plausible they integrated with the Croatoan people
I believe the integration theory here. It just makes the most sense given the data we have. Peaceful mergings of unrelated groups of people has happened uncountable times in our history. It's just something we do.
I agree. To me there is no mystery here & would not label it with the 411 cases of the missing.
This is taking something that clearly has an answer & trying to make it into something it's not. There are many unexplained missing people with no explanation this is not one of those cases imho.
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It's really just racism lmao. For centuries even up to now people are willing to entertain literally any theory except for the clear signs that they just integrated with the natives
I wanna like your comment but 'their' means 'belonging to them', how do you even get that mixed up with there, if "here and there" is only 1 letter apart
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"Elizabeth Dare" is actually probably better
Surely it was underfloaty. 🤣
😂😂
"B" side "sink or swim"
The english of the Elizabethans was modern english. Not contemporary, but modern. Old english was that of the Anglo Saxons, middle english was the old mixed with french and latin, and, by Elizabeth I, it had evolved into modern. The Elizabethans had a surprisingly good literacy rate and were very playful with their language. Different variations of spelling were considered the sign of an educated man (although frustrating for today's student reading Shakespeare).
I love Elizabethan English for that tho. I was always good at spelling ironically but ya I love it for that when reading Shakespeare
It was different back then. Pronounced different, spelled different, had words we don't today, different rules, etc. Thee thou, all that, those are words from a different language, and that was the language of back then. Shakespeare's English is what they spoke and it's not the same language we speak today.
@@godwarrior3403 Contemporary English is what we speak today. But both forms are modern english.
By the way, thee and thou are familiar forms of you. Like German and Spanish, English used to have a familiar form of you as well.
Yes, thank you! Same with King James Bible. 100% Modern English.
So excited to fall asleep to this and then have to replay it again for the next week until I actually get through it!
Omg I'm not alone in this haha
I do this too!!
@The Huntress Danni I wish my phone would realize when I fall asleep so it would pause hahahha
I’m on my third play through right now! 🤣
This is exactly what I do! I think I’ve played some of his videos like ten or more times each, so far :-)
@@Lauren-ri9uh Mine does sometimes actually, not sure why. Or it keeps playing some random channel over and over; one day I woke up to the History Channel all over my recommended page and was so confused. I quickly realized why... Last night it was the alien hearings... I have no idea either.
I did you one better though. On the mobile app click the top right for your youtube account, go to "settings," next "general," and then you can use either "Remind me to take a break" or "Remind me when it's bedtime." I literally just googled this for you lol; I don't know how effective it is. I'll try it out when I go to sleep lol
Edit: yep it works
I'm currently binge watching all of your videos and I feel so lucky to catch a premiere! Keep up the fabulous work, gentlemen. Love your content.
Same here, found this channel 3 days ago and went on a massive binge
@@TargetiveChickengod i wish i could rebinge these videos again for the first time, ive never been SO invested
yep, same here
"Lusty" in this context actually makes perfect sense if you think about it.
Lust is passion. The men were passionate about adventure and exploration.
"Lust for battle" is a term still used today, albeit somewhat obscure if you're not into military stuff.
Lust is desire!
Always makes me think of "The Lusty Argonian Maid."
Lust for power
Adj. "healthy and strong; full of vigor."
The phrase lust for battle always makes me think of Sarge from Red Versus Blue going "I've got a boner for murder!"
As a Native American, who was a Forestry (and Wildlife Conservation) Major in College. We can't even pronounce some of those native names/words. I can safely say also, that Rootbeer is made from sassafras as well as candy.
Yes, the Cherokee considered Sasquatch to be another type of people. That's exactly what we are told. That they came and helped us with the planting and harvesting of crops, and as winter approached, they headed back over the Mountains to the west or North for the winter. They had their own language as well. My other tribe that I belong too is from the Nova Scotia area, but moved around a lot, but we are very white skinned. My brother even has blue eyes.
The Tribe is all this way. Pre-contact. We figured a Viking was thrown into the mix at some point between Nova Scotia and living along the Great Lakes. It wasn't anyone else, b/c we fought the English. The Brit. General wrote about us being a formidable foe. That quote is on our monthly newsletter. I don't recall the English General's name tho. OH lookie, I have a newsletter right here...lol. I'll spare ya. We traveled the St. Lawrence and ended up in the Ohio River Valley. Then History picks up, as we are now located in Oklahoma. I took genetics and know how it works. We are pretty damn indian, yet very white. Makes no sense. We are both Cherokee and Wyandotte (Wendat-Huron Confederacy)
Old English is hilarious. S, looks like F. There's a Brit com where they are reading from an old English Bible, and the girl gets to the word "sucker", and she already had problems with the letter, and when she gets to that word, the Priest stepped up and put her hand over her mouth and said SUCKER...cuz you know she was going to say FUCKER haha.
Robert Sepher talks about white native americans in some of his videos. I always wondered if that was true. Thanks for sharing.
My grandmother, God rest her soul, was a Cherokee with blonde hair and green eyes!! 😁
There is also an Eastern Cherokee Band in North Carolina. The Oklahoma Band of Tsalagi accepts matrinlineal line descendancy rather than blood quantum of at least 1/4 so tribal enrollees can have very little actual Cherokee bloodlines. I have friends in the Oklahoma Cherokee tribe and my stepson is Cherokee on his mother's side. So they can look white passing. There is no modern phenotype for Native people but if you claim to be a tribal member then you should know your tribal language, customs and ceremony as part of your participation in your culture instead of holding up your CDIB card and enrollment card as proof that you're Native.
Sassafras tea was made in VA when I was a kid. Me and my brother would walk along the road and climb up the bank and break off a twig of sassafras and chew on it. Our great aunt was with us and had taught us what it looked like. Now I don't remember what it looks like. There used to be a gum that tasted like that to when I was a kid. I'm trying to remember the name. I've not seen it in stores for years. Maybe teaberry gum was the name.
2 of my friends were part native and sisters when I was a kid. One had blond hair & green eyes & one had dark brown hair and green eyes. When I was 15 I had a new friend. The family was part native and had moved from Penn. My friend had a twin sister who was not identical. My friend had light brown hair and brown eyes and her sister had black curly hair & black eyes. They had many siblings. All had dark hair & eyes except one man. He was like my friend. Their mother told me I think it was Cheyenne tribe. I have forgot but it started with a C. Was not Cherokee. I remembered that because Cherokee is my favorite tribe and Apache. The mother was who had the native blood. The father told me and mom when we went for a visit that he was kin to the Shupes thru the Whites. My great grannys sister was married to Mr White. We visited both of them when I was a kid.
It was aliens, trust me. I'm a sasquatch.
I saw a 👽 demon b4, in the commonwealth of PA @ 3am a decade ago.
No,it’s sasquatch trust me. I’m a leprechaun
@@lynno.8539 Don't trust Lynn O, leprechauns are notorious tricksters. It was aliens %100
I’m concerned on how you can’t shape shift Wendigos rule apeman
I knew Sasquatch watched youtube. You can't hide it from me.
I really enjoy your channel for the fact that you actually take the time to really research in depth, and put effort into giving a factual historical video. It is not only enjoyable but is a chance for us to learn more about actual history. Thank you!
Gotta use that medieval studies degree somehow 😅
@@TheLoreLodge I am genuinely and sincerely curious about this because I had no idea a medieval history degree was even a thing. What sparked the interest and aside from making epic content on RUclips and other platforms, what other avenues can it be applied to, education or otherwise? Also I apologize if these are silly questions. I don't get out much, haha.
@@chzybean I’m a little late but a medieval history degree can be helpful with landing a good museum job (curator or director), being an archivist or historian, and of course being a professor or teacher.
It's actually from the Powhatan language that we get the word tomahawk, meaning something to the effect of "to cut by striking."
After watching this, I so hope you do a video on the lost Franklin Expedition. I mean, we basically know what happened to them, but more and more is being uncovered even today and it is so fascinating! The ships have only been found in the last decade, and only properly excavated in the last year or so. The local Inuit oral history around the men of expedition is pretty in depth, I just haven't had the chance to go through it. I really hope it's as interesting to you as it is to me, and that you'll do a video on it.
Yes, that would be super interesting! I would love to hear it from the Inuit point of view.
Oh man I bingewatched and read everything about the Franklin expedition a few years ago, it IS fascinating. One question that really bugs me is: who were the few men reportedly seen still walking south around 1850, what exactly happened to them and how close did they actually get to making it out before... ending up "never to be seen again"?
At just before 8:40 when you describe the guy reading and the ship capsizing and sinking, with everyone on deck, no survivors it makes me think of Jack Sparrow's "No survivors? Then where do the stories come from, I wonder?"
A ship sets sail from Amsterdam to Boston, allegedly loaded with bitches and hoes and gold and ferarri`s.
A letter has been send in advance to bosten to inform them about this shipment and when it will set sail.
Unfortunately, the schip never reaches boston and no one ever saw any of them bitches or hoes or gold.
Word on the street is The ship sank becaus the bitches started racing the Ferrari`s for the gold on the deck of the ship causing serious damage eventuality sinking the ship. This is however speculation.
A information vacuum leads to speculation. you dont always need a messenger, sometime the message is the absent of a message.
Sometime a message comes in the form of a dog turd on your bed.
I thought thr same thing
@@anthonypassarelli5534there were other ships
I think he pretty clearly told that there were multiple ships. But not close enough to manage to rescue somebody drowning on wild ocean during storm. That is kinda hard to do even today. They had visibility enough to see the ship sinking but visibility was very likely not enough to see somebody trying to swim if he managed to jump from the sinking ship. Plus during the storm it is also hard to even keep yourself above the waves and without something to hold on you can drown pretty quickly if you are not extremely lucky like being close to shore to be kicked there by sea.
This is one of the best deep dives into Roanoke I have ever seen! Thanks for all your research into this! When I was in high school, the history and English teacher worked together to have us learn about this chapter of history and then had us write a creative stories about what we think happened to the Roanoke colony. We came up with some wild ideas from witches to time travel lol
Great writing prompt 👍🏼
Sassafras is a wonder drug, according to my old grandmother. If we complained of a headache, we got a dose of sassafras tea, which is a really good laxative...My grandmother believed that most headaches were caused by being constipated. We learned to be careful about complaining around her. Strange little thing I remember. Waaay back when I was in grade school, we learned about Roanoke and there just happened to be a girl in our class named, Virginia Dare. Strange the things you remember after 65 years.
yeah my Mom thought castor oil was the cure for everything, also a laxative. i feel your pain.
Hehehe that reminded me of the time I was on a school field trip (a 3 day one - I went to a tiny private Christian school as a kid) where we stayed and did projects around the 4H research center on Jekyll Island... one of the workers pointed out a plant and said you can try it - small nibble - as it tastes like carrot tops smell. One kid shoved a bunch in his mouth trying to be the class clown and she hadn't finished her sentence yet, just turned around and kept walking until he had consumed most of it when she turned back and said, "It's also a really strong laxative". Boy started sputtering out the last remnants and we all laughed (not in a bullying way, but just like "lol good luck bro").
I do believe he experienced some consequences later that evening, but I do not know for sure since girls and boys were separated at night, ofc
I'm not a long-time viewer, so I'll admit i had skepticism about how outlandish the points in this video would be -- Roanoke is one of those mysteries that I learned about in school through blatant lies and wierd conspiracy theories-- but I'm genuinely impressed at the research and dedication that went into this video, the evidences you sited, and how you demystified the "oooh spooky unsolved disappearance" that public education taught me about this historical tidbit. Excellent work and content, keep up the good work.
As a native from Chesapeake I appreciate some of the pronunciations especially Manteo. Of note there is a town named after him but is pronounced Man Tea O. Hatteras island has a shorter S sound. Appreciate the video. Been there multiple times.
I sure love these videos, I hope the algorithm shows these videos in the feeds of other individuals who share the same interests.
You and me both!
I think this is the best presentation I've seen on this that wasn't an academic lecture. Excellent Video. Thank You.
Thank you!
Man, I'm so glad the algorithm showed me your videos! Binge watched them all and I was looking for part two of this video! I love the mystery of Roanoke and the mystery of Oak IslandI hope you cover that too!
Mountain apes is pretty odd, if it isn't a misunderstanding. I used to be a firm Bigfoot nonbeliever, but this channel has me considering that there may have been something in the past that started the legends.
Check out bob gymlans channel if you get the chance, he'll thoroughly convince you of bigfoot
@@splitzyprime419 I'll check it out, thank you.
Check out bob gymlan’s channel
They're straight up here today. Could be an animal or a spiritual entity. Not sure. But there are animals claimed by tribes in remote rainforests and jungles we say were there thousands of years ago. And these tribes don't know about ancient history or commonly accepted theories. They just see it and say it. On top of that, multiple animals have been thought extinct and then found in modern day. By my name you know I believe in God, so you know I don't believe in evolution, but I believe they have skeletons of bipedal apes they inaccurately attribute to human evolution, Bigfoot could absolutely be a descendent of bipedal apes. And could absolutely be in the relatively unexplored wilderness of many national parks and remote forests in low numbers. To think so many grown and sane people are mistaking something they say they clearly saw, or to say they're all lying, is equally as outlandish a thought as Bigfoot itself. It's a convenient copout to not accept something hard to prove, imo.
In general, I don't believe in Bigfoot either
But I've seen pictures of brown bears suffering from mange, and if those get on their hind legs... i could see how that too could be mistaken
I lived in obx. It's hella weird knowing these people disappeared and I walked the grounds they were probably on. But also the coast line is constantly eroding and being refilled with dump trucks of sand so there's probably no telling how far the coast truly lied at that time. I worked in the Corolla light house and got touched up on history there.
Dude I'd love to live in Nags Head. But I looked at land prices and holy shite. There was a piece of land on the dunes and it was only a third of an acre and it was $1.6 million.
Maybe one day....
@@thegamingwitch yeah I lived out there for 5 years as a renter and left about a year ago. The rent for me went from 1200 w/,o utilities to $1500 before I left. It truly was a more beautiful place. Now the westerners from Cali and those areas- not to mention Jersey and Pennsylvania people- started scooping up land (buying properties) shortly after our new president and that's why there is an inexplicit hike of price out there. Not a single local is happy anymore when it comes to living... But that's my update. I still recommend people to either find a buddy that lives close by off the island or find a hotel off the island That is the most efficient pleasant way of having an outer Banks experience nowadays if you aren't financially set for it :/
@@RobBoss757 The bad outsiders that ruin it all. Kind of makes you hope to find a nice house that’s haunted so no outsider would want to live there. 😂😂 With history like what’s in this video, you gotta think a lot of that land has got to be severely haunted. I’d be good with it. 😁
@@mikaelafox6106 ahh I see you've been aquatinted to the tourons. And yes. I'd have to say it is haunted to a point. That's my opinion though. Usually people there tend to focus on work and play. I only met a few locals that didn't and either they never brought up any experience or they lived off the island. Really doesn't leave much room for a a perspective to paranormal stuff when you're too keen and focused on those two goals though. Again my personal opinion
@@RobBoss757 Well I don’t live in that area, but I’ve seen enough outsiders in my own city. They’ve raised property values because they thing it’s no big deal to pay $200,000-600,000 for a house that shouldn’t be more than $150,000.
If I could afford to live in an historical city, I’d do my best to integrate into the local culture, that’s for sure! ☺️
Hey history nerd here. Small correction in 38:28 you said Sir Francis Drake couldn't have brought the slaves back because slavery was illegal on the island of Great Britian itself. While that is true, it was almost never enforced for members of high society unless you pissed the wrong person off. For example, all the way up to the late 1700s we actually see members of the nobility and high society offer rewards in newspapers for capturing escaped slaves. So, in all honesty it is very likely that Drake did bring the slaves back and sold them but didn't record them officially just in case someone looked into his dealings.
As you correctly pointed out, it was their differences in copper-refining that drove a wedge between the Croatoans (cold-hammering) and the Incans (smelting). Also, the Croatoans’ coining the phrase “he who smelt it, dealt it” didn’t help things, either.
Very good presentation, I really like that you went deeply into the history of the colonization of the area to give context. Most just go straight to the lost colony.
One of the main reasons I think studying history, of whichever period or place, is very important: it teaches the sense of context. Why does this matter? Because one cannot possibly understand why things are as they are now, without knowing how they got that way. That is context. Unfortunately, many people currently seem to lack - or are choosing to not use - the ability to understand context.
This elevates your storytelling with a fantastic historical take on a great mystery.
Phenomenal.
This is a super in depth video on this, thank you so much! A lot of people who cover Roanoke don’t go into this much detail
The amount of likes and comments on this video compared to the amount of views is downright disrespectful. This man is a damn researching master for us, show him more support!! ❤
I agree!
Man, congratulations. I didn't think anyone could bring a Roanoke story full circle to Bigfoot. Man didn't think it was possible.
The Knights of Columbus pushed for Columbus Day to tie Italian immigrants to America’s past, because they were the prosecuted immigrant class of the day like the Irish before them. They weren’t being placated at all. It was a defense mechanism.
The story you described may have been emblematic of the issues they faced. but it wasn’t a single inciting indecent. Im also Italian American.
I’ve always been fascinated by Roanoke as I’m a NC native. I have always wondered if my ancestors were in the Americas that early. This past year I took a DNA test and it determined that my ancestors on both sides of my family migrated to NC from England in the early to mid 1700’s. It’s not quite as early as I was hoping for but it’s still really cool to think that my family has been living in the same area for the past 300 years!
Your username is incredible
I was raised on the coast of VA right at the N.c. line. I was adopted and found out later in life after the internet come along and DNA that my great grand parents was a Russian who escaped after the zar fell and married a German butchers daughter and came to the United States but their son married a woman last named hunt from West VA. But through DNA apparently my grandmother was descended from pochantas's sister which name I'd have to pull out papers to remember so this stuff just amazes me! Like another person said, it's an amazing feeling knowing I have run in the same tracts as ancestors of mine. It's a good feeling!! I grew up running around nags head and Hatteras and Williamsburg, Jamestown and Yorktown! I'm 63 now and am so grateful to have been raised where I was
English Teacher here: Your use of "ostensibly" here is good. Maybe not 10/10, but 9.5, 10 with some more confidence. Good job on the 17thC wordage, BTW. Never an easy thing!
Easily the most comprehensive treatment of the Roanoke story I've ever seen.
Years ago I read a book called "Roanoke: Solving the Mystery of the Lost Colony" by Lee Miller, which seemed to have been very well researched. The conclusion she came to, as I remember, was that the missing colonists belonged to a religious sect called the Brownists, and that the crown essentially wanted to get rid of them by just dumping them on an island and hoping the Spanish would wipe them out.
You seem to have stuck as close as possible to verifiable facts, but I wondered if you had come across this part of the story in the course of your research?
Aside from the purported medicinal benefits, sassafras is also really tasty to make a tea or syrup with. Sassafras soda is like a lighter, more herbal version of root beer. Or like birch beer but more earthy. Very tasty, and totally safe when you use the right parts.
It also contains eugenol, an anesthetic that can be used to make mdma.
It's also used to make Gumbo File, which is basically ground leaves into a fine powder. It was also the original way to make Root Beer, the roots from the plant are used to make it. Hence the name, Root Beer. Lol
I love that it seems like Roanoke is starting to get more attention!
On top of what you said about the size difference between that era of musket, they were most likely also Matchlocks, which means the fire using a lit cord instead of the far more reliable Flintlock system.
lol i have not heard the word "heathen" since my grandmother passed in 1986.
in the 1970's i spent time with her during grade school summer vacation; she had a specific dislike for a few of the neighbor familys and refered to them by "what a tribe" or just "heathens".
great summary of the lost colony.
I've been watching for a year and a bit now, and every video gets better and better! Keep up the good work Aidans :)
I'd love to see a deep dive like this into the failure of Jamestown. That's such a -story-. Also, the apes in the Mountains thing threw me. Can confirm as someone from the WNC Apps, no apes here. Could be Bigfoot type things. Could be a misunderstanding of pumas, but they'd probably have said 'lions' for that one.
Wait how was Jamestown a failure when it was the first permanent colony that settled the new world? It came after the Roanoke Colony. The Roanoke Colony was the failure while Jamestown survived
@@thegamingwitch I'm specifically referring to what's known as the 'Starving Time'. Which was pretty awful.
@@sarahhannush1466 I have potential relation to John Smith (distant if true, and if so through his siblings, as Smith never had children), and I can shed some light on that due an aforementioned interest on the subject.
The long and short of it is that Jamestown under John Smith's leadership was colonized by primary "second son" types; these were the sons of nobles and/or landowners who would receive nothing of inheritance upon their fathers' deaths. The inherent problem that came out from this was that a whole bunch of these people were so used to servants doing all the manual labor, that they really weren't motivated to work and actually make the settlement function. So John Smith had to resort to drastic measures. He locked up all of the gun powder and made an ultimatum - "those who shall not work shall not eat". This _really_ did not go over well, and mutiny was an almost constant threat.
Ultimately, one night while Smith was checking on the powder, someone attempted to blow up the hold with him in it. While surviving the obvious murder attempt, Smith had serious burns that could only be properly treated in England. He left on the next ship back, and in the end never returned to Jamestown.
As to the morons, they started celebrating that Smith the Tyrant was finally gone, and things were run how they felt it should have been. They all died of starvation and exposure soon after during the next winter, as they idiotically didn't take Smith's farming and hunting lessons to heart.
Thus the first settlement of Jamestown fell.
Yeah, that tangent about the apes in the mountains threw me for a loop, too!
Personally i like the theory thrown forward by the movie "Roanoake the lost colony", that ancient evil viking wraiths killed the colony. Makes things more fun.
You have a gift for story telling. Sort of a lost art despite all the people telling (video) stories. Thank you for a nice twist on a much-told tale!
The root from Sassafras is used by KY. Tenn. NC. West VA. and Virgina peoples for Tea. It tastes like Root beer. I have even seen this tea sold in my home state KY. and even PA,, where I currently live. Really good Tea!
Sassafras is the traditional flavoring of root beer, specifically the roots. It isn't used any more today due to concerns about the main flavoring compound, sasafrole, being potentially carcinogenic. Might be a good idea to cut back on the tea, though the studies on the carcinogenic effects of sassafras aren't conclusive.
It also makes good candies. I love hard sassafras candies.
LETS GO!!! I always get hyped when someone talks about the Roanoke Colony. Also if yall ever in the Outer Banks, especially in the summer time, go down to the Roanoke Island and go see the Elizabethan Gardens. They're so gorgeous. We go every year.
Roanoke has always caught my attention. There’s something so intriguing about it.
I live in Manteo, so I get the opportunity to go, and see these things that are normal to me, and mind blowing to others😂 next time y’all come down, go see the play
Love the maps added to the video. Helps visualize the location way easier!
Really enjoyed this episode. There is nothing better than a history story you can actually relate to yourself and have a type of connection to. I am descended from one of the Delaware tribes, family settled in Jamestown in the early settlement days. And even went to Roanoke (bucket list item ticked off!) to see the colony site. Aiden is also a great presenter as well and I am more than happy to listen to him talk for hours.
I’m digging the actual History they don’t teach or have tried to erase. 💯. I appreciate you serving out the knowledge. I am member of the Lee family in VA. Richard Henry Lee is my 5th great Gpa on my moms side. On dads side is Sir John Hawkins and Sir Francis Drake - There is also a book in the National Archives - you can also google and read it online - The Burritt Family in America. The Book starts with My 10th Great Gpa , I’m not sure if it is Sir or Lord 😂 William Burritt , I can’t trace the Boat he came on because he owned the ships I’m thinking. He was also a Templar (fun fact) He and his family arrived in America pre 1630 Keep up the detailed good 👍 work !!!! They are trying to erase the History. So from my heart -- Thank you 🙏. Keep educating people or we will LOOSE our past …….. Our past , present , and future is what makes us who we are. The Good and the Ugly. 💯
58:20 "diverse" in that context simply means "a varied collection" indicating it was of several different types of gear, supplies, and equipment, as opposed to recovering only chests of, say, gunpowder and muskets.
Me: Seriously interested and listening to the video
Also me: Giggling like a schoolgirl after hearing the word, "Pinas."
Love the video, keep it up~! You always have solid videos, and I know I can always rely on those involved with this channel to bring their A-Game as well as every game from B to Z. Even a few symbols, like .!?¿¡. I'll always watch the videos if you keep putting them out. Thank you for doing this, it will always be appreciated.
i was checking the comments just to make sure i wasn’t alone
Fun fact: the oil of sassafras is a compound called mda …. The more mild sister/cousin of the chemical compound mdma
Source: I used to party a lot in Miami in the early 2010s and it was all the rage over there.
Is it as good as mdma?
My personal roanoke theory was that no one ever lived in the roanoke colony. The just kinda threw the guys that supposedly lived at roanoke overboard as soon as they were away from shore and then just built the colony and left. Then they come back a few years later and act shocked. This way they get a bigger boat, more funding, and more supplies for less people. (This theory was born from me being pissed at my social studies teacher)
10:40 never forget that people can consider others friends and still think they are lesser
LOVE the episode!! You nailed it! As a native coastal North Carolinian, let me help you....Manteo is locally pronounced Man-e-oh and Wanchese is Wahn-chees! They have a very unique dialect out there and I'm not a local to the OBX but Ive been several times. Sometimes you can barely understand them!
Thank you. This was a very thorough telling of the history of the Roanoke Colony; well said and interesting.
Sassafras is a tree. When young, the roots are dug up and used to make tea. It tastes a lot like root beer. A lot of people make it here in the rural Midwest. I hate root beer, so I'm out of luck, but it looks very pretty (tea is a dark red color). Love your channel and super interesting research on Roanoke I hadn't heard before.
I just want to say I found you from wendigoon and I’m so happy I found both of y’all you cover the very niche topics I love listening too.
You know what this reminds me of? Oak island, the templar crosses and weird constructions there. Did they end up going further north and attempting to settle up there or something?
Cannon shots being removed seems to suggest a ship having been there
Oh trust me, we’re very interested in that. Had some conversations with PA Grand Lodge officers about it. The masons are very, very interested.
@@TheLoreLodgeso when are you gits going to published discovery that you found the ark of covenant and templars treasures
Love this! american history is so freaky when it comes to supernatural stuff
"They were beginning to smelt it."
Soon, they would begin to dealt it.
I am looking forward to your perspective on this!
This is the most interested I've ever been in this story. I didn't want the video to end.
Man really great content I literally thought of this title when I had my channel I filmed there multiple times. Once it was really eerie when the mist rose around the camp. A storm blew in too
Just found your channel and I can't stop watching!
I live in southestern VA. We have a ton of roads and spaces with Native American names. Listening to folks not from around here pronounce the names is always fun- It's how we know who the tourists are.
Srsly though, would absolutely recommend visiting the Outer Banks. There are some really cool things to see. The Lost Colony is a long-running play about Roanoke that is worth seeing!
Same thing here on Long Island, I love hearing the way people that are not from around here pronounce town & road names.
Hearing anyone pronounce Powhatan is absolutely hilarious. It’s really a dead giveaway to who’s not from here
Thanks so much for talking about this in detail. I have always been fascinated with this story ever since i first read about it in my history books when i was in 4th or 5th grade.
There is a rather dark aspect theory I grew up with in regards to why the bodies were never found....at least not in the form you would think. The dark theory is that the bones (That which would not decay like the rest of the bodies) were actually used in some altering manner. By one of the unfriendly tribes. Be it turned into tools or weapons, or in some other manner. Its a theory and would explain the difficulty in finding the bodies.
You have given a better explanation and historical perspective than I’ve ever heard before.
Ummm... sassafras is the primary flavor of root beer. Even today, despite the fact that actual sassafras is no longer used to flavor root beer, sassafras "flavor" is still what gives it its main flavor. It's kind of unbelievable that you didn't know this!
I thought that was sasparilla?
@@TheLoreLodge , Nope, sarsaparilla is its own separate carbonated drink that's traditionally made from the Smilax plant. All you have to do is just bite into a little sprig of sassafras (or just break it open and smell it), and your reaction will almost certainly be "oh, root beer!"😁🍺
Wow what a story!! This is the best version by far!!!
ahhh i love your videos. i’m from newfoundland and it’s a pet peeve of mine about how people pronounce my province. it’s pronounced new FOUND land not new finland. one small thing other than that is awesome!!!!
Great video today! I loved the humor XD
Also this is by far the most in-depth look into the Lost Colony of Roanoke that I've seen. Super informative!
I feel like it's just the time thing. So so so much time passed between the first leaving of White til people finally really looked into it. Anything could've happened in FIVE years, let alone how much time actually passed! There's just no way of really knowing everything that happened
PLEASE look more into Strachey's account of the Natives hunting Apes in the mountains. I feel like hearing this has broken my mind
The casual toss in of there was a sighting of a sea monster and then we just move on like it's not important
. . . with the head of a lion. Wondering if they saw a manatee or too far north?
@thurayya8905 this was my first thought too
Pretty sure any big sea animal would've been a monster to them in the 1500s from whales, killer whales, octopuses, squid even big jellyfish
Definitely a strange case - the boots and just the distance he covered through the crazy terrain adds so much more mystery to it....
well never thought I'd see the day where bigfoot took the Roanoke colonists, but here we are
Which is funny cause there is evidence to suggest that the colony due to various environmental reasons decided to integrate themselves with a local native tribe and moved. There were sightings around that time of a Tribe of natives that had white settlers living among them. The descendants of a tribe in the Roanoke area have European DNA. It's nothing above circumstantial evidence but it makes the most sense.
I loved the part where he actually talks about the possibility of it being a missing 411 case
*Let us commence forth!*
This was awesome. I can’t imagine how much work goes into these videos. But they are excellent. Thank you.
This channel somehow came into my feed . I love the way you break the story down and explain everything. I can tell you did your due diligence and did alot of research. I subbed looking forward to more uploads I'm going to check your other videos out after I watch this one .
My Favorite Place to come for Missing 411 Stories. Lots of respect from Canada!
Love the content. Mostly listen on Spotify while driving. Though being from Michigan I disagree with your view on the Dogman, had an experience that fits what is mentioned in the legend
Sassafras root used to be used to make root beer and even today Sassafras leaves are used to make File Powder in Louisiana, a spice/thickening agent used in some gumbos, a contribution from the Native Americans. It can also be used to make a tea, but it is not considered safe to drink for the same reason commercially available root beer doesn't use it anymore, safrole, a poisonous compound that can cause liver disease and cancer. this compound was also used as a flavoring agent, in medicine, chewing gum, toothpaste and soap.
The Babylon Bee's sister-site, Not the Bee, just posted an article about the moon-eyed people, and the theory they were Prince Marduk of Wales
Yeah I’ve heard of that, summary research suggested that the story was completely made up much later. I’ll do some more research on it when I do our History Hut channel video on Wales
I've watched a couple videos covering this topic, but this one was by far the best. I'm sure it is entirely due to you using the primary sources, disentangling them, and also your great question: apes in the mountains? There seems to be growing evidence that protohumans actually crossed the land bridge into North America when it opened up around a hundred thousand years ago, and we know homo erectus is pretty big and tall, so it's fascinatingly plausible that the natives actually caused the extinction of them.
Pretty sure this was solved years ago. they left to live with the natives. By the time the boats came back they were far inland and didn’t know about it. When Europeans came to colonize again, they were surprised to find some very white skinned natives amongst the locals.
That was a theory, but it doesn’t hold up given the other details
I watched a Secrets of the Dead on PBS & they did track similar DNA between folks from NC & the part of the UK the settlers were from.
I just got back from living in OBX NC and visited the Lost Colony and went on the tour. Very cool!
Love Live Lore Lodge
Italian Australian scorpio here. Love your work Piambino
I'll like for a Columbus joke 😂 You guys have an amazing editing style and sense of humor, keep on keeping on bro!
My family hails from early VA to WV. Sassafras was usually made into tea and used for UTI and colds. You could crush the leaves and place around your vegetable garden to keep critters away. Also, you can crush the leaves and make like a potpourri to freshen up a room. You have to be careful handling the leaves.
Also sassafras was an ingredient for the original root beers
Actually, the troops in Zulu(and in real life) used the Martini Henry rifle, NOT a musket. This is significant because it was a breach loading rifle that fired premade brass cartridges, like the ones we are familiar with today. Any kind of musket had an extremely long reload time. The Martini Henry could be fired, reloaded, and shouldered to fire again in seconds, opposed to a musket that took minutes. This new kind of rifle allowed a small contingency of troops to produce a previously unheard of volume of fire.
Love live lore lodge 😚
This video is a repeat watch for me, I love the longer form content
Jewish native Americans and Bigfoot in one sentence. I'm here for it.
I was born and raised in Tavistock, Devon. This is close to where Sir Francis Drake (Armada 1588) was from (it's 15 miles north of Plymouth). There is a large statue of SFD in the centre of a roundabout in Tavistock. When I was a teenager (am now 50yrs) we had a Spanish boy living with us for a couple of weeks to learn English. He was fiercely patriotic and blamed the defeat of the Armada entirely on the weather (partly true). I made sure that I drove around that roundabout with him a few times. Childish but fun.
My take on the apes in the mountains thing is that it may have been a misunderstanding/mistranslation. A lot of books from that time period are just straight-up wrong. Writers had a habit of including things that they thought they heard somewhere, or things that seemed correct, or things that totally happened to their cousin's uncle's friend's grandmother.
I researched all of this a few years back (or rather, read other, much more intelligent people' research😂) and my firm belief is that they were attacked by the " friendly" tribe, men killed, women and children abducted, which would have resulted in "some natives having blue eyes". I think it's all rather simple. Native tribes were quite capable of warfare; they waged war with other tribes on a regular basis and took slaves. This was a time of conquest and military campaigns at the dawn of the discovery of the New World for the European; everything points to this and even the carvings in trees show it pretty clearly -when an ambush happens at night, there isn't much time to scribble crosses, and the most important thing to tell those trying to find you is who had attacked you.
It was rabid squirrels I remember the squirrel rebellion of 99 it was bad what they did to jim… I’ll never forget where they buried his nuts to
Fascinating. We got a blurb in 4th and 10th grade when I was a kid in NC. New to the channel but already joined. I love all this stuff
We teach it in 8th grade now too! Great video! So glad some kid remembers their teachers DID "teach this in school", they just weren't paying attention.