Missing 411 (?) | The Lost Colony of Roanoke

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @TheLoreLodge
    @TheLoreLodge  Год назад +110

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    • @ajaxslamgoody9736
      @ajaxslamgoody9736 Год назад +7

      Are you and the Wendigoon buddies? I'm subscribed to your channel through the great bearded one.

    • @TheLoreLodge
      @TheLoreLodge  Год назад +6

      @@ajaxslamgoody9736 yes sir

    • @ajaxslamgoody9736
      @ajaxslamgoody9736 Год назад +4

      @@TheLoreLodge Thanks...I sent you a recommendation just a minute ago...I was going to send it to Goon but I figured I would see if you would consider it, due to your tenacity of History. Ajax Out

    • @matthewflatt9741
      @matthewflatt9741 Год назад +1

      I'm a heathen heathens like me follow norse paganism and one of its names is heathenry

    • @matthewflatt9741
      @matthewflatt9741 Год назад

      Ok wonder why so many claim noone has figured what Croatoan meant

  • @ancientatomicimmortality4016
    @ancientatomicimmortality4016 Год назад +1698

    I love how everyone acts like it's a mystery when they carved Croatoan in a tree & their was an island south that was literally called Croatoan (modern day Hatteras Island, NC) where a friendly tribe (of the same exact name) lived that the colonists had befriended & traded with. So when John White couldn't return with supplies (due to England's war with Spain) they OBVIOUSLY went & tried to find the only people they knew that could help them not starve to death. Now, did the colonists make it there successfully is unknown because White NEVER was able to check due to complications with the boat when he tried to sail south to the island. Their is rumors of a Native tribe that had blue eyed members with lighter complexions than your normal American Native would have normally had so it's very plausible they integrated with the Croatoan people

    • @adamlane6453
      @adamlane6453 Год назад +286

      I believe the integration theory here. It just makes the most sense given the data we have. Peaceful mergings of unrelated groups of people has happened uncountable times in our history. It's just something we do.

    • @juliaoconnor5798
      @juliaoconnor5798 Год назад +98

      I agree. To me there is no mystery here & would not label it with the 411 cases of the missing.
      This is taking something that clearly has an answer & trying to make it into something it's not. There are many unexplained missing people with no explanation this is not one of those cases imho.

    • @Lgeary1963
      @Lgeary1963 Год назад +3

      😂

    • @PanzerIVAE
      @PanzerIVAE Год назад

      It's really just racism lmao. For centuries even up to now people are willing to entertain literally any theory except for the clear signs that they just integrated with the natives

    • @Grindeldore
      @Grindeldore Год назад +44

      I wanna like your comment but 'their' means 'belonging to them', how do you even get that mixed up with there, if "here and there" is only 1 letter apart

  • @thurayya8905
    @thurayya8905 Год назад +585

    The english of the Elizabethans was modern english. Not contemporary, but modern. Old english was that of the Anglo Saxons, middle english was the old mixed with french and latin, and, by Elizabeth I, it had evolved into modern. The Elizabethans had a surprisingly good literacy rate and were very playful with their language. Different variations of spelling were considered the sign of an educated man (although frustrating for today's student reading Shakespeare).

    • @umbra6772
      @umbra6772 Год назад +19

      I love Elizabethan English for that tho. I was always good at spelling ironically but ya I love it for that when reading Shakespeare

    • @godwarrior3403
      @godwarrior3403 Год назад +5

      It was different back then. Pronounced different, spelled different, had words we don't today, different rules, etc. Thee thou, all that, those are words from a different language, and that was the language of back then. Shakespeare's English is what they spoke and it's not the same language we speak today.

    • @thurayya8905
      @thurayya8905 Год назад +37

      @@godwarrior3403 Contemporary English is what we speak today. But both forms are modern english.

    • @thurayya8905
      @thurayya8905 Год назад +20

      By the way, thee and thou are familiar forms of you. Like German and Spanish, English used to have a familiar form of you as well.

    • @adamlane6453
      @adamlane6453 Год назад +8

      Yes, thank you! Same with King James Bible. 100% Modern English.

  • @TheWhiteTrashPanda
    @TheWhiteTrashPanda Год назад +429

    "Lusty" in this context actually makes perfect sense if you think about it.
    Lust is passion. The men were passionate about adventure and exploration.
    "Lust for battle" is a term still used today, albeit somewhat obscure if you're not into military stuff.

    • @indieoregano
      @indieoregano Год назад +13

      Lust is desire!

    • @chzybean
      @chzybean Год назад +34

      Always makes me think of "The Lusty Argonian Maid."

    • @mikes717
      @mikes717 Год назад +10

      Lust for power

    • @adamlane6453
      @adamlane6453 Год назад +16

      Adj. "healthy and strong; full of vigor."

    • @Arto257
      @Arto257 Год назад +14

      The phrase lust for battle always makes me think of Sarge from Red Versus Blue going "I've got a boner for murder!"

  • @vondahartsock-oneil3343
    @vondahartsock-oneil3343 Год назад +340

    As a Native American, who was a Forestry (and Wildlife Conservation) Major in College. We can't even pronounce some of those native names/words. I can safely say also, that Rootbeer is made from sassafras as well as candy.
    Yes, the Cherokee considered Sasquatch to be another type of people. That's exactly what we are told. That they came and helped us with the planting and harvesting of crops, and as winter approached, they headed back over the Mountains to the west or North for the winter. They had their own language as well. My other tribe that I belong too is from the Nova Scotia area, but moved around a lot, but we are very white skinned. My brother even has blue eyes.
    The Tribe is all this way. Pre-contact. We figured a Viking was thrown into the mix at some point between Nova Scotia and living along the Great Lakes. It wasn't anyone else, b/c we fought the English. The Brit. General wrote about us being a formidable foe. That quote is on our monthly newsletter. I don't recall the English General's name tho. OH lookie, I have a newsletter right here...lol. I'll spare ya. We traveled the St. Lawrence and ended up in the Ohio River Valley. Then History picks up, as we are now located in Oklahoma. I took genetics and know how it works. We are pretty damn indian, yet very white. Makes no sense. We are both Cherokee and Wyandotte (Wendat-Huron Confederacy)
    Old English is hilarious. S, looks like F. There's a Brit com where they are reading from an old English Bible, and the girl gets to the word "sucker", and she already had problems with the letter, and when she gets to that word, the Priest stepped up and put her hand over her mouth and said SUCKER...cuz you know she was going to say FUCKER haha.

    • @SuperScoundrel
      @SuperScoundrel Год назад +15

      Robert Sepher talks about white native americans in some of his videos. I always wondered if that was true. Thanks for sharing.

    • @inkdemon64mclemore57
      @inkdemon64mclemore57 Год назад +13

      My grandmother, God rest her soul, was a Cherokee with blonde hair and green eyes!! 😁

    • @gnostic268
      @gnostic268 Год назад +5

      There is also an Eastern Cherokee Band in North Carolina. The Oklahoma Band of Tsalagi accepts matrinlineal line descendancy rather than blood quantum of at least 1/4 so tribal enrollees can have very little actual Cherokee bloodlines. I have friends in the Oklahoma Cherokee tribe and my stepson is Cherokee on his mother's side. So they can look white passing. There is no modern phenotype for Native people but if you claim to be a tribal member then you should know your tribal language, customs and ceremony as part of your participation in your culture instead of holding up your CDIB card and enrollment card as proof that you're Native.

    • @tammyshupe1793
      @tammyshupe1793 Год назад +5

      Sassafras tea was made in VA when I was a kid. Me and my brother would walk along the road and climb up the bank and break off a twig of sassafras and chew on it. Our great aunt was with us and had taught us what it looked like. Now I don't remember what it looks like. There used to be a gum that tasted like that to when I was a kid. I'm trying to remember the name. I've not seen it in stores for years. Maybe teaberry gum was the name.

    • @tammyshupe1793
      @tammyshupe1793 Год назад +1

      2 of my friends were part native and sisters when I was a kid. One had blond hair & green eyes & one had dark brown hair and green eyes. When I was 15 I had a new friend. The family was part native and had moved from Penn. My friend had a twin sister who was not identical. My friend had light brown hair and brown eyes and her sister had black curly hair & black eyes. They had many siblings. All had dark hair & eyes except one man. He was like my friend. Their mother told me I think it was Cheyenne tribe. I have forgot but it started with a C. Was not Cherokee. I remembered that because Cherokee is my favorite tribe and Apache. The mother was who had the native blood. The father told me and mom when we went for a visit that he was kin to the Shupes thru the Whites. My great grannys sister was married to Mr White. We visited both of them when I was a kid.

  • @crazypurplehair5722
    @crazypurplehair5722 Год назад +200

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  • @Lauren-ri9uh
    @Lauren-ri9uh Год назад +205

    So excited to fall asleep to this and then have to replay it again for the next week until I actually get through it!

    • @thehuntressdanni2972
      @thehuntressdanni2972 Год назад +14

      Omg I'm not alone in this haha
      I do this too!!

    • @Lauren-ri9uh
      @Lauren-ri9uh Год назад +7

      @The Huntress Danni I wish my phone would realize when I fall asleep so it would pause hahahha

    • @shewho333
      @shewho333 Год назад +2

      I’m on my third play through right now! 🤣

    • @brandibucko
      @brandibucko Год назад +1

      This is exactly what I do! I think I’ve played some of his videos like ten or more times each, so far :-)

    • @XXMatt0040XX
      @XXMatt0040XX Год назад

      ​@@Lauren-ri9uh Mine does sometimes actually, not sure why. Or it keeps playing some random channel over and over; one day I woke up to the History Channel all over my recommended page and was so confused. I quickly realized why... Last night it was the alien hearings... I have no idea either.
      I did you one better though. On the mobile app click the top right for your youtube account, go to "settings," next "general," and then you can use either "Remind me to take a break" or "Remind me when it's bedtime." I literally just googled this for you lol; I don't know how effective it is. I'll try it out when I go to sleep lol
      Edit: yep it works

  • @chzybean
    @chzybean Год назад +384

    I'm currently binge watching all of your videos and I feel so lucky to catch a premiere! Keep up the fabulous work, gentlemen. Love your content.

    • @TargetiveChicken
      @TargetiveChicken Год назад +5

      Same here, found this channel 3 days ago and went on a massive binge

    • @febrieze
      @febrieze Год назад +7

      ​@@TargetiveChickengod i wish i could rebinge these videos again for the first time, ive never been SO invested

    • @Mr.NopeNope
      @Mr.NopeNope Год назад

      yep, same here

  • @sasqwatch
    @sasqwatch Год назад +2174

    It was aliens, trust me. I'm a sasquatch.

    • @sarahoberling4436
      @sarahoberling4436 Год назад +44

      I saw a 👽 demon b4, in the commonwealth of PA @ 3am a decade ago.

    • @lynno.8539
      @lynno.8539 Год назад +79

      No,it’s sasquatch trust me. I’m a leprechaun

    • @sasqwatch
      @sasqwatch Год назад

      ​@@lynno.8539 Don't trust Lynn O, leprechauns are notorious tricksters. It was aliens %100

    • @DaddyDRock
      @DaddyDRock Год назад +31

      I’m concerned on how you can’t shape shift Wendigos rule apeman

    • @newkreature03
      @newkreature03 Год назад +29

      I knew Sasquatch watched youtube. You can't hide it from me.

  • @p.k.5455
    @p.k.5455 Год назад +127

    I really enjoy your channel for the fact that you actually take the time to really research in depth, and put effort into giving a factual historical video. It is not only enjoyable but is a chance for us to learn more about actual history. Thank you!

    • @TheLoreLodge
      @TheLoreLodge  Год назад +27

      Gotta use that medieval studies degree somehow 😅

    • @chzybean
      @chzybean Год назад +4

      ​@@TheLoreLodge I am genuinely and sincerely curious about this because I had no idea a medieval history degree was even a thing. What sparked the interest and aside from making epic content on RUclips and other platforms, what other avenues can it be applied to, education or otherwise? Also I apologize if these are silly questions. I don't get out much, haha.

    • @Prodigi50
      @Prodigi50 Год назад +5

      @@chzybean I’m a little late but a medieval history degree can be helpful with landing a good museum job (curator or director), being an archivist or historian, and of course being a professor or teacher.

  • @cirruscloud5198
    @cirruscloud5198 Год назад +81

    After watching this, I so hope you do a video on the lost Franklin Expedition. I mean, we basically know what happened to them, but more and more is being uncovered even today and it is so fascinating! The ships have only been found in the last decade, and only properly excavated in the last year or so. The local Inuit oral history around the men of expedition is pretty in depth, I just haven't had the chance to go through it. I really hope it's as interesting to you as it is to me, and that you'll do a video on it.

    • @thurayya8905
      @thurayya8905 Год назад +6

      Yes, that would be super interesting! I would love to hear it from the Inuit point of view.

    • @TTFerdinand
      @TTFerdinand Год назад +3

      Oh man I bingewatched and read everything about the Franklin expedition a few years ago, it IS fascinating. One question that really bugs me is: who were the few men reportedly seen still walking south around 1850, what exactly happened to them and how close did they actually get to making it out before... ending up "never to be seen again"?

  • @andreweden9405
    @andreweden9405 Год назад +60

    It's actually from the Powhatan language that we get the word tomahawk, meaning something to the effect of "to cut by striking."

  • @mapsbolt3663
    @mapsbolt3663 Год назад +74

    This is one of the best deep dives into Roanoke I have ever seen! Thanks for all your research into this! When I was in high school, the history and English teacher worked together to have us learn about this chapter of history and then had us write a creative stories about what we think happened to the Roanoke colony. We came up with some wild ideas from witches to time travel lol

    • @SoBayK80
      @SoBayK80 Год назад +2

      Great writing prompt 👍🏼

  • @spacesaturnarts
    @spacesaturnarts Год назад +26

    I'm not a long-time viewer, so I'll admit i had skepticism about how outlandish the points in this video would be -- Roanoke is one of those mysteries that I learned about in school through blatant lies and wierd conspiracy theories-- but I'm genuinely impressed at the research and dedication that went into this video, the evidences you sited, and how you demystified the "oooh spooky unsolved disappearance" that public education taught me about this historical tidbit. Excellent work and content, keep up the good work.

  • @oliloolilo4467
    @oliloolilo4467 Год назад +92

    At just before 8:40 when you describe the guy reading and the ship capsizing and sinking, with everyone on deck, no survivors it makes me think of Jack Sparrow's "No survivors? Then where do the stories come from, I wonder?"

    • @blauwzakjecrack
      @blauwzakjecrack Год назад

      A ship sets sail from Amsterdam to Boston, allegedly loaded with bitches and hoes and gold and ferarri`s.
      A letter has been send in advance to bosten to inform them about this shipment and when it will set sail.
      Unfortunately, the schip never reaches boston and no one ever saw any of them bitches or hoes or gold.
      Word on the street is The ship sank becaus the bitches started racing the Ferrari`s for the gold on the deck of the ship causing serious damage eventuality sinking the ship. This is however speculation.
      A information vacuum leads to speculation. you dont always need a messenger, sometime the message is the absent of a message.
      Sometime a message comes in the form of a dog turd on your bed.

    • @anthonypassarelli5534
      @anthonypassarelli5534 9 месяцев назад +2

      I thought thr same thing

    • @BeetleBuns
      @BeetleBuns 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@anthonypassarelli5534there were other ships

    • @Samuel42069
      @Samuel42069 4 месяца назад +1

      I think he pretty clearly told that there were multiple ships. But not close enough to manage to rescue somebody drowning on wild ocean during storm. That is kinda hard to do even today. They had visibility enough to see the ship sinking but visibility was very likely not enough to see somebody trying to swim if he managed to jump from the sinking ship. Plus during the storm it is also hard to even keep yourself above the waves and without something to hold on you can drown pretty quickly if you are not extremely lucky like being close to shore to be kicked there by sea.

  • @joecoastie99
    @joecoastie99 Год назад +38

    As a native from Chesapeake I appreciate some of the pronunciations especially Manteo. Of note there is a town named after him but is pronounced Man Tea O. Hatteras island has a shorter S sound. Appreciate the video. Been there multiple times.

  • @jackmagma478
    @jackmagma478 Год назад +85

    I sure love these videos, I hope the algorithm shows these videos in the feeds of other individuals who share the same interests.

  • @Ammo08
    @Ammo08 Год назад +44

    Sassafras is a wonder drug, according to my old grandmother. If we complained of a headache, we got a dose of sassafras tea, which is a really good laxative...My grandmother believed that most headaches were caused by being constipated. We learned to be careful about complaining around her. Strange little thing I remember. Waaay back when I was in grade school, we learned about Roanoke and there just happened to be a girl in our class named, Virginia Dare. Strange the things you remember after 65 years.

    • @billsimmons2898
      @billsimmons2898 6 месяцев назад +2

      yeah my Mom thought castor oil was the cure for everything, also a laxative. i feel your pain.

    • @fyre9123
      @fyre9123 5 месяцев назад +2

      Hehehe that reminded me of the time I was on a school field trip (a 3 day one - I went to a tiny private Christian school as a kid) where we stayed and did projects around the 4H research center on Jekyll Island... one of the workers pointed out a plant and said you can try it - small nibble - as it tastes like carrot tops smell. One kid shoved a bunch in his mouth trying to be the class clown and she hadn't finished her sentence yet, just turned around and kept walking until he had consumed most of it when she turned back and said, "It's also a really strong laxative". Boy started sputtering out the last remnants and we all laughed (not in a bullying way, but just like "lol good luck bro").
      I do believe he experienced some consequences later that evening, but I do not know for sure since girls and boys were separated at night, ofc

  • @nickjohnson410
    @nickjohnson410 Год назад +10

    I think this is the best presentation I've seen on this that wasn't an academic lecture. Excellent Video. Thank You.

  • @jms855
    @jms855 Год назад +17

    Man, I'm so glad the algorithm showed me your videos! Binge watched them all and I was looking for part two of this video! I love the mystery of Roanoke and the mystery of Oak IslandI hope you cover that too!

  • @mustacheman529
    @mustacheman529 Год назад +112

    Mountain apes is pretty odd, if it isn't a misunderstanding. I used to be a firm Bigfoot nonbeliever, but this channel has me considering that there may have been something in the past that started the legends.

    • @splitzyprime419
      @splitzyprime419 Год назад

      Check out bob gymlans channel if you get the chance, he'll thoroughly convince you of bigfoot

    • @mustacheman529
      @mustacheman529 Год назад +2

      @@splitzyprime419 I'll check it out, thank you.

    • @overlyobsolete2797
      @overlyobsolete2797 Год назад

      Check out bob gymlan’s channel

    • @godwarrior3403
      @godwarrior3403 Год назад

      They're straight up here today. Could be an animal or a spiritual entity. Not sure. But there are animals claimed by tribes in remote rainforests and jungles we say were there thousands of years ago. And these tribes don't know about ancient history or commonly accepted theories. They just see it and say it. On top of that, multiple animals have been thought extinct and then found in modern day. By my name you know I believe in God, so you know I don't believe in evolution, but I believe they have skeletons of bipedal apes they inaccurately attribute to human evolution, Bigfoot could absolutely be a descendent of bipedal apes. And could absolutely be in the relatively unexplored wilderness of many national parks and remote forests in low numbers. To think so many grown and sane people are mistaking something they say they clearly saw, or to say they're all lying, is equally as outlandish a thought as Bigfoot itself. It's a convenient copout to not accept something hard to prove, imo.

    • @Grindeldore
      @Grindeldore Год назад

      In general, I don't believe in Bigfoot either
      But I've seen pictures of brown bears suffering from mange, and if those get on their hind legs... i could see how that too could be mistaken

  • @RobBoss757
    @RobBoss757 Год назад +37

    I lived in obx. It's hella weird knowing these people disappeared and I walked the grounds they were probably on. But also the coast line is constantly eroding and being refilled with dump trucks of sand so there's probably no telling how far the coast truly lied at that time. I worked in the Corolla light house and got touched up on history there.

    • @thegamingwitch
      @thegamingwitch Год назад +4

      Dude I'd love to live in Nags Head. But I looked at land prices and holy shite. There was a piece of land on the dunes and it was only a third of an acre and it was $1.6 million.
      Maybe one day....

    • @RobBoss757
      @RobBoss757 Год назад +6

      @@thegamingwitch yeah I lived out there for 5 years as a renter and left about a year ago. The rent for me went from 1200 w/,o utilities to $1500 before I left. It truly was a more beautiful place. Now the westerners from Cali and those areas- not to mention Jersey and Pennsylvania people- started scooping up land (buying properties) shortly after our new president and that's why there is an inexplicit hike of price out there. Not a single local is happy anymore when it comes to living... But that's my update. I still recommend people to either find a buddy that lives close by off the island or find a hotel off the island That is the most efficient pleasant way of having an outer Banks experience nowadays if you aren't financially set for it :/

    • @mikaelafox6106
      @mikaelafox6106 Год назад +5

      @@RobBoss757 The bad outsiders that ruin it all. Kind of makes you hope to find a nice house that’s haunted so no outsider would want to live there. 😂😂 With history like what’s in this video, you gotta think a lot of that land has got to be severely haunted. I’d be good with it. 😁

    • @RobBoss757
      @RobBoss757 Год назад +2

      @@mikaelafox6106 ahh I see you've been aquatinted to the tourons. And yes. I'd have to say it is haunted to a point. That's my opinion though. Usually people there tend to focus on work and play. I only met a few locals that didn't and either they never brought up any experience or they lived off the island. Really doesn't leave much room for a a perspective to paranormal stuff when you're too keen and focused on those two goals though. Again my personal opinion

    • @mikaelafox6106
      @mikaelafox6106 Год назад +2

      @@RobBoss757 Well I don’t live in that area, but I’ve seen enough outsiders in my own city. They’ve raised property values because they thing it’s no big deal to pay $200,000-600,000 for a house that shouldn’t be more than $150,000.
      If I could afford to live in an historical city, I’d do my best to integrate into the local culture, that’s for sure! ☺️

  • @jerrylafond8597
    @jerrylafond8597 Год назад +13

    Hey history nerd here. Small correction in 38:28 you said Sir Francis Drake couldn't have brought the slaves back because slavery was illegal on the island of Great Britian itself. While that is true, it was almost never enforced for members of high society unless you pissed the wrong person off. For example, all the way up to the late 1700s we actually see members of the nobility and high society offer rewards in newspapers for capturing escaped slaves. So, in all honesty it is very likely that Drake did bring the slaves back and sold them but didn't record them officially just in case someone looked into his dealings.

  • @siinfloridasi
    @siinfloridasi Год назад +12

    As you correctly pointed out, it was their differences in copper-refining that drove a wedge between the Croatoans (cold-hammering) and the Incans (smelting). Also, the Croatoans’ coining the phrase “he who smelt it, dealt it” didn’t help things, either.

  • @joelspaulding5964
    @joelspaulding5964 Год назад +6

    This elevates your storytelling with a fantastic historical take on a great mystery.
    Phenomenal.

  • @chibicthulhu4382
    @chibicthulhu4382 Год назад +30

    I’ve always been fascinated by Roanoke as I’m a NC native. I have always wondered if my ancestors were in the Americas that early. This past year I took a DNA test and it determined that my ancestors on both sides of my family migrated to NC from England in the early to mid 1700’s. It’s not quite as early as I was hoping for but it’s still really cool to think that my family has been living in the same area for the past 300 years!

    • @IonIsFalling7217
      @IonIsFalling7217 Год назад

      Your username is incredible

    • @katherinecarpenter4677
      @katherinecarpenter4677 11 месяцев назад

      I was raised on the coast of VA right at the N.c. line. I was adopted and found out later in life after the internet come along and DNA that my great grand parents was a Russian who escaped after the zar fell and married a German butchers daughter and came to the United States but their son married a woman last named hunt from West VA. But through DNA apparently my grandmother was descended from pochantas's sister which name I'd have to pull out papers to remember so this stuff just amazes me! Like another person said, it's an amazing feeling knowing I have run in the same tracts as ancestors of mine. It's a good feeling!! I grew up running around nags head and Hatteras and Williamsburg, Jamestown and Yorktown! I'm 63 now and am so grateful to have been raised where I was

  • @CamBoone
    @CamBoone Год назад +32

    I love that it seems like Roanoke is starting to get more attention!

  • @benstephenson8370
    @benstephenson8370 Год назад +7

    English Teacher here: Your use of "ostensibly" here is good. Maybe not 10/10, but 9.5, 10 with some more confidence. Good job on the 17thC wordage, BTW. Never an easy thing!

  • @christashocklee8398
    @christashocklee8398 Год назад +8

    The amount of likes and comments on this video compared to the amount of views is downright disrespectful. This man is a damn researching master for us, show him more support!! ❤

  • @constantreader7483
    @constantreader7483 Год назад +7

    Easily the most comprehensive treatment of the Roanoke story I've ever seen.
    Years ago I read a book called "Roanoke: Solving the Mystery of the Lost Colony" by Lee Miller, which seemed to have been very well researched. The conclusion she came to, as I remember, was that the missing colonists belonged to a religious sect called the Brownists, and that the crown essentially wanted to get rid of them by just dumping them on an island and hoping the Spanish would wipe them out.
    You seem to have stuck as close as possible to verifiable facts, but I wondered if you had come across this part of the story in the course of your research?

  • @aronjanssonnordberg307
    @aronjanssonnordberg307 Год назад +11

    Very good presentation, I really like that you went deeply into the history of the colonization of the area to give context. Most just go straight to the lost colony.

    • @ednigma6526
      @ednigma6526 7 месяцев назад +1

      One of the main reasons I think studying history, of whichever period or place, is very important: it teaches the sense of context. Why does this matter? Because one cannot possibly understand why things are as they are now, without knowing how they got that way. That is context. Unfortunately, many people currently seem to lack - or are choosing to not use - the ability to understand context.

  • @ruthmeow4262
    @ruthmeow4262 Год назад +7

    Really enjoyed this episode. There is nothing better than a history story you can actually relate to yourself and have a type of connection to. I am descended from one of the Delaware tribes, family settled in Jamestown in the early settlement days. And even went to Roanoke (bucket list item ticked off!) to see the colony site. Aiden is also a great presenter as well and I am more than happy to listen to him talk for hours.

  • @Jane_8319
    @Jane_8319 Год назад +2

    This is a super in depth video on this, thank you so much! A lot of people who cover Roanoke don’t go into this much detail

  • @johnmarsh6337
    @johnmarsh6337 Год назад +7

    Man, congratulations. I didn't think anyone could bring a Roanoke story full circle to Bigfoot. Man didn't think it was possible.

  • @maxn6613
    @maxn6613 Год назад +25

    I've been watching for a year and a bit now, and every video gets better and better! Keep up the good work Aidans :)

  • @thegamingwitch
    @thegamingwitch Год назад +7

    LETS GO!!! I always get hyped when someone talks about the Roanoke Colony. Also if yall ever in the Outer Banks, especially in the summer time, go down to the Roanoke Island and go see the Elizabethan Gardens. They're so gorgeous. We go every year.

    • @mikaelafox6106
      @mikaelafox6106 Год назад

      Roanoke has always caught my attention. There’s something so intriguing about it.

    • @thelettertwelve5789
      @thelettertwelve5789 Год назад

      I live in Manteo, so I get the opportunity to go, and see these things that are normal to me, and mind blowing to others😂 next time y’all come down, go see the play

  • @hawkticus_history_corner
    @hawkticus_history_corner Год назад +9

    On top of what you said about the size difference between that era of musket, they were most likely also Matchlocks, which means the fire using a lit cord instead of the far more reliable Flintlock system.

  • @coryvogelgesang
    @coryvogelgesang Год назад +3

    Love the maps added to the video. Helps visualize the location way easier!

  • @samdiamond3402
    @samdiamond3402 10 месяцев назад +2

    You have a gift for story telling. Sort of a lost art despite all the people telling (video) stories. Thank you for a nice twist on a much-told tale!

  • @sarahhannush1466
    @sarahhannush1466 Год назад +36

    I'd love to see a deep dive like this into the failure of Jamestown. That's such a -story-. Also, the apes in the Mountains thing threw me. Can confirm as someone from the WNC Apps, no apes here. Could be Bigfoot type things. Could be a misunderstanding of pumas, but they'd probably have said 'lions' for that one.

    • @thegamingwitch
      @thegamingwitch Год назад +2

      Wait how was Jamestown a failure when it was the first permanent colony that settled the new world? It came after the Roanoke Colony. The Roanoke Colony was the failure while Jamestown survived

    • @sarahhannush1466
      @sarahhannush1466 Год назад +8

      @@thegamingwitch I'm specifically referring to what's known as the 'Starving Time'. Which was pretty awful.

    • @SockieTheSockPuppet
      @SockieTheSockPuppet Год назад +3

      ​​​@@sarahhannush1466 I have potential relation to John Smith (distant if true, and if so through his siblings, as Smith never had children), and I can shed some light on that due an aforementioned interest on the subject.
      The long and short of it is that Jamestown under John Smith's leadership was colonized by primary "second son" types; these were the sons of nobles and/or landowners who would receive nothing of inheritance upon their fathers' deaths. The inherent problem that came out from this was that a whole bunch of these people were so used to servants doing all the manual labor, that they really weren't motivated to work and actually make the settlement function. So John Smith had to resort to drastic measures. He locked up all of the gun powder and made an ultimatum - "those who shall not work shall not eat". This _really_ did not go over well, and mutiny was an almost constant threat.
      Ultimately, one night while Smith was checking on the powder, someone attempted to blow up the hold with him in it. While surviving the obvious murder attempt, Smith had serious burns that could only be properly treated in England. He left on the next ship back, and in the end never returned to Jamestown.
      As to the morons, they started celebrating that Smith the Tyrant was finally gone, and things were run how they felt it should have been. They all died of starvation and exposure soon after during the next winter, as they idiotically didn't take Smith's farming and hunting lessons to heart.
      Thus the first settlement of Jamestown fell.

    • @26th_Primarch
      @26th_Primarch 4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, that tangent about the apes in the mountains threw me for a loop, too!

  • @cassoIa
    @cassoIa Месяц назад +1

    “So basically, he was a Scorpio” that caught me off guard and had me giggling, thank-you hahah

  • @Matt-xc6sp
    @Matt-xc6sp Год назад +25

    The Knights of Columbus pushed for Columbus Day to tie Italian immigrants to America’s past, because they were the prosecuted immigrant class of the day like the Irish before them. They weren’t being placated at all. It was a defense mechanism.
    The story you described may have been emblematic of the issues they faced. but it wasn’t a single inciting indecent. Im also Italian American.

  • @connorthornberg
    @connorthornberg Год назад +14

    Aside from the purported medicinal benefits, sassafras is also really tasty to make a tea or syrup with. Sassafras soda is like a lighter, more herbal version of root beer. Or like birch beer but more earthy. Very tasty, and totally safe when you use the right parts.
    It also contains eugenol, an anesthetic that can be used to make mdma.

    • @400Redsport
      @400Redsport 7 месяцев назад +1

      It's also used to make Gumbo File, which is basically ground leaves into a fine powder. It was also the original way to make Root Beer, the roots from the plant are used to make it. Hence the name, Root Beer. Lol

  • @BlaireSnorlax
    @BlaireSnorlax Год назад +9

    Me: Seriously interested and listening to the video
    Also me: Giggling like a schoolgirl after hearing the word, "Pinas."
    Love the video, keep it up~! You always have solid videos, and I know I can always rely on those involved with this channel to bring their A-Game as well as every game from B to Z. Even a few symbols, like .!?¿¡. I'll always watch the videos if you keep putting them out. Thank you for doing this, it will always be appreciated.

    • @alaska5611
      @alaska5611 Год назад

      i was checking the comments just to make sure i wasn’t alone

  • @pyxelm
    @pyxelm Год назад +25

    Love this! american history is so freaky when it comes to supernatural stuff

  • @Wendy-Williams-NC
    @Wendy-Williams-NC Год назад +4

    LOVE the episode!! You nailed it! As a native coastal North Carolinian, let me help you....Manteo is locally pronounced Man-e-oh and Wanchese is Wahn-chees! They have a very unique dialect out there and I'm not a local to the OBX but Ive been several times. Sometimes you can barely understand them!

  • @Phyrior
    @Phyrior 26 дней назад +1

    "We hunt apes' could mean sasquatch and similar cryptids, but I've the depressing feeling it could also be them outright saying 'we hunt people'.

    • @greywolf7577
      @greywolf7577 День назад

      It was probably a translation issue. It was clearly the English who used the word "ape" in their writings. So what word did the Native Americans use and how do we know that that word means the same as "ape" does in English? Perhaps the English described what apes were and the Natives thought "oh yeah, hairy people. The tribe in the mountains is pretty hairy". Or the Natives were talking about their enemies and described them as hairy and the English mistook that to mean apes rather than just hairy humans.

  • @TravelerFaal
    @TravelerFaal Год назад +7

    My personal roanoke theory was that no one ever lived in the roanoke colony. The just kinda threw the guys that supposedly lived at roanoke overboard as soon as they were away from shore and then just built the colony and left. Then they come back a few years later and act shocked. This way they get a bigger boat, more funding, and more supplies for less people. (This theory was born from me being pissed at my social studies teacher)

  • @philliptree1742
    @philliptree1742 25 дней назад +1

    Love the history aspect of these stories. Keep up the good work.

  • @Whitey_Ford
    @Whitey_Ford Год назад +4

    I’m digging the actual History they don’t teach or have tried to erase. 💯. I appreciate you serving out the knowledge. I am member of the Lee family in VA. Richard Henry Lee is my 5th great Gpa on my moms side. On dads side is Sir John Hawkins and Sir Francis Drake - There is also a book in the National Archives - you can also google and read it online - The Burritt Family in America. The Book starts with My 10th Great Gpa , I’m not sure if it is Sir or Lord 😂 William Burritt , I can’t trace the Boat he came on because he owned the ships I’m thinking. He was also a Templar (fun fact) He and his family arrived in America pre 1630 Keep up the detailed good 👍 work !!!! They are trying to erase the History. So from my heart -- Thank you 🙏. Keep educating people or we will LOOSE our past …….. Our past , present , and future is what makes us who we are. The Good and the Ugly. 💯

  • @thurayya8905
    @thurayya8905 Год назад +2

    Thank you. This was a very thorough telling of the history of the Roanoke Colony; well said and interesting.

  • @missymagenta
    @missymagenta Год назад +5

    I live in southestern VA. We have a ton of roads and spaces with Native American names. Listening to folks not from around here pronounce the names is always fun- It's how we know who the tourists are.
    Srsly though, would absolutely recommend visiting the Outer Banks. There are some really cool things to see. The Lost Colony is a long-running play about Roanoke that is worth seeing!

    • @jenniferj5324
      @jenniferj5324 Год назад

      Same thing here on Long Island, I love hearing the way people that are not from around here pronounce town & road names.

    • @diabeticmonkey
      @diabeticmonkey Год назад

      Hearing anyone pronounce Powhatan is absolutely hilarious. It’s really a dead giveaway to who’s not from here

  • @casey7187
    @casey7187 Год назад +1

    This is the most interested I've ever been in this story. I didn't want the video to end.

  • @danlast4726
    @danlast4726 Год назад +4

    I am looking forward to your perspective on this!

  • @amandahouseholder1228
    @amandahouseholder1228 4 месяца назад +1

    Just found your channel and I can't stop watching!

  • @johndoeyo
    @johndoeyo Год назад +4

    Man really great content I literally thought of this title when I had my channel I filmed there multiple times. Once it was really eerie when the mist rose around the camp. A storm blew in too

  • @susanford6926
    @susanford6926 Год назад +1

    Wow what a story!! This is the best version by far!!!

  • @robertwittjr1198
    @robertwittjr1198 11 месяцев назад +6

    lol i have not heard the word "heathen" since my grandmother passed in 1986.
    in the 1970's i spent time with her during grade school summer vacation; she had a specific dislike for a few of the neighbor familys and refered to them by "what a tribe" or just "heathens".
    great summary of the lost colony.

  • @Misssarabee
    @Misssarabee Год назад +8

    Fun fact: the oil of sassafras is a compound called mda …. The more mild sister/cousin of the chemical compound mdma
    Source: I used to party a lot in Miami in the early 2010s and it was all the rage over there.

  • @mishmashmedley
    @mishmashmedley Год назад +4

    58:20 "diverse" in that context simply means "a varied collection" indicating it was of several different types of gear, supplies, and equipment, as opposed to recovering only chests of, say, gunpowder and muskets.

  • @annabelcunningham2848
    @annabelcunningham2848 6 месяцев назад +2

    10:40 never forget that people can consider others friends and still think they are lesser

  • @wenn9366
    @wenn9366 Год назад +10

    Sassafras is a tree. When young, the roots are dug up and used to make tea. It tastes a lot like root beer. A lot of people make it here in the rural Midwest. I hate root beer, so I'm out of luck, but it looks very pretty (tea is a dark red color). Love your channel and super interesting research on Roanoke I hadn't heard before.

  • @kathyrawlings8614
    @kathyrawlings8614 Год назад

    You have given a better explanation and historical perspective than I’ve ever heard before.

  • @custink22
    @custink22 11 месяцев назад +3

    Personally i like the theory thrown forward by the movie "Roanoake the lost colony", that ancient evil viking wraiths killed the colony. Makes things more fun.

  • @Addonexacy
    @Addonexacy Год назад +1

    Great video today! I loved the humor XD
    Also this is by far the most in-depth look into the Lost Colony of Roanoke that I've seen. Super informative!

  • @rylandbunnell4306
    @rylandbunnell4306 Год назад +3

    I just want to say I found you from wendigoon and I’m so happy I found both of y’all you cover the very niche topics I love listening too.

  • @OntarioGuardianNewsNow
    @OntarioGuardianNewsNow 10 месяцев назад

    My Favorite Place to come for Missing 411 Stories. Lots of respect from Canada!

  • @ajaxslamgoody9736
    @ajaxslamgoody9736 Год назад +9

    The root from Sassafras is used by KY. Tenn. NC. West VA. and Virgina peoples for Tea. It tastes like Root beer. I have even seen this tea sold in my home state KY. and even PA,, where I currently live. Really good Tea!

    • @benjaminsmith3843
      @benjaminsmith3843 Год назад +2

      Sassafras is the traditional flavoring of root beer, specifically the roots. It isn't used any more today due to concerns about the main flavoring compound, sasafrole, being potentially carcinogenic. Might be a good idea to cut back on the tea, though the studies on the carcinogenic effects of sassafras aren't conclusive.

    • @ruthmeow4262
      @ruthmeow4262 Год назад

      It also makes good candies. I love hard sassafras candies.

  • @InquisitorAstelon
    @InquisitorAstelon Год назад +4

    "They were beginning to smelt it."
    Soon, they would begin to dealt it.

  • @sookendestroy1
    @sookendestroy1 Год назад +14

    You know what this reminds me of? Oak island, the templar crosses and weird constructions there. Did they end up going further north and attempting to settle up there or something?
    Cannon shots being removed seems to suggest a ship having been there

    • @TheLoreLodge
      @TheLoreLodge  Год назад +17

      Oh trust me, we’re very interested in that. Had some conversations with PA Grand Lodge officers about it. The masons are very, very interested.

    • @stalinsoulz7872
      @stalinsoulz7872 Год назад

      ​@@TheLoreLodgeso when are you gits going to published discovery that you found the ark of covenant and templars treasures

  • @WillRoan
    @WillRoan Год назад

    This was awesome. I can’t imagine how much work goes into these videos. But they are excellent. Thank you.

  • @maxmead077
    @maxmead077 Год назад +7

    well never thought I'd see the day where bigfoot took the Roanoke colonists, but here we are

    • @Usernamesdontmatter1
      @Usernamesdontmatter1 Год назад +3

      Which is funny cause there is evidence to suggest that the colony due to various environmental reasons decided to integrate themselves with a local native tribe and moved. There were sightings around that time of a Tribe of natives that had white settlers living among them. The descendants of a tribe in the Roanoke area have European DNA. It's nothing above circumstantial evidence but it makes the most sense.

  • @propakindustries22
    @propakindustries22 Год назад +1

    Italian Australian scorpio here. Love your work Piambino

  • @daniellehoven2149
    @daniellehoven2149 Год назад +4

    ahhh i love your videos. i’m from newfoundland and it’s a pet peeve of mine about how people pronounce my province. it’s pronounced new FOUND land not new finland. one small thing other than that is awesome!!!!

  • @ReptillianStrike
    @ReptillianStrike Год назад

    Your long form content is the best on the platform by far.

  • @andreweden9405
    @andreweden9405 Год назад +5

    Ummm... sassafras is the primary flavor of root beer. Even today, despite the fact that actual sassafras is no longer used to flavor root beer, sassafras "flavor" is still what gives it its main flavor. It's kind of unbelievable that you didn't know this!

    • @TheLoreLodge
      @TheLoreLodge  Год назад +5

      I thought that was sasparilla?

    • @andreweden9405
      @andreweden9405 Год назад +5

      @@TheLoreLodge , Nope, sarsaparilla is its own separate carbonated drink that's traditionally made from the Smilax plant. All you have to do is just bite into a little sprig of sassafras (or just break it open and smell it), and your reaction will almost certainly be "oh, root beer!"😁🍺

  • @kd8663
    @kd8663 9 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve always felt the simplest answer is the best one. They went to the Croatoan tribe. They even left a note that basically amounts to: ‘going to Croatoan’s house.’

  • @RoanRetro
    @RoanRetro Год назад +8

    I'll like for a Columbus joke 😂 You guys have an amazing editing style and sense of humor, keep on keeping on bro!

  • @becklyn3
    @becklyn3 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks so much for talking about this in detail. I have always been fascinated with this story ever since i first read about it in my history books when i was in 4th or 5th grade.

  • @m4g1cM1KE
    @m4g1cM1KE Год назад +3

    Love Live Lore Lodge

  • @donaldthomann1613
    @donaldthomann1613 4 месяца назад +1

    "Mosquito Bay" sounds like actual hell on Earth

  • @realtalkwithj-man5195
    @realtalkwithj-man5195 Год назад +3

    This channel somehow came into my feed . I love the way you break the story down and explain everything. I can tell you did your due diligence and did alot of research. I subbed looking forward to more uploads I'm going to check your other videos out after I watch this one .

  • @Athlynne
    @Athlynne Год назад

    Best video I've ever seen on Roanoke. I wish it was longer! :)

  • @DylanMatthewTurner
    @DylanMatthewTurner Год назад +6

    I feel like it's just the time thing. So so so much time passed between the first leaving of White til people finally really looked into it. Anything could've happened in FIVE years, let alone how much time actually passed! There's just no way of really knowing everything that happened

  • @CWS291
    @CWS291 Год назад +2

    As someone who grew up in Powhatan county in Virginia, it's pretty funny to hear how other people say Powhatan. Great stuff as always bois

  • @nathanallen4509
    @nathanallen4509 Год назад +4

    Love the content. Mostly listen on Spotify while driving. Though being from Michigan I disagree with your view on the Dogman, had an experience that fits what is mentioned in the legend

  • @IcedSynergy
    @IcedSynergy Год назад +1

    Great video man! Been watching conspiracy/history videos on this topic for years and this is for sure one of the best 👌

  • @Red0543
    @Red0543 Год назад +5

    *Let us commence forth!*

  • @riahishere
    @riahishere Год назад +1

    Usually historic lectures (for lack of a better word) have me zoning out.
    However, yours don't. So thank you for this kind of content.~
    Side note: the coffee shop story is freakin hilarious. I love it.

    • @riahishere
      @riahishere Год назад

      Informative speech would have probably been a better word now that I think about it. 😂

  • @lilyredmoon7267
    @lilyredmoon7267 Год назад +3

    There is a rather dark aspect theory I grew up with in regards to why the bodies were never found....at least not in the form you would think. The dark theory is that the bones (That which would not decay like the rest of the bodies) were actually used in some altering manner. By one of the unfriendly tribes. Be it turned into tools or weapons, or in some other manner. Its a theory and would explain the difficulty in finding the bodies.

  • @anthonypassarelli5534
    @anthonypassarelli5534 9 месяцев назад +1

    I loved the part where he actually talks about the possibility of it being a missing 411 case

  • @Rork333
    @Rork333 Год назад +4

    The casual toss in of there was a sighting of a sea monster and then we just move on like it's not important

    • @thurayya8905
      @thurayya8905 Год назад +1

      . . . with the head of a lion. Wondering if they saw a manatee or too far north?

    • @nucking_futs4932
      @nucking_futs4932 8 месяцев назад

      ​@thurayya8905 this was my first thought too

    • @ChuckNorrisIsGay1337
      @ChuckNorrisIsGay1337 2 месяца назад

      Pretty sure any big sea animal would've been a monster to them in the 1500s from whales, killer whales, octopuses, squid even big jellyfish

  • @HEATRACER24
    @HEATRACER24 Год назад

    Another great video packed with info new to me. Great job!

  • @spike.strat1318
    @spike.strat1318 Год назад +5

    Pretty sure this was solved years ago. they left to live with the natives. By the time the boats came back they were far inland and didn’t know about it. When Europeans came to colonize again, they were surprised to find some very white skinned natives amongst the locals.

    • @TheLoreLodge
      @TheLoreLodge  Год назад +3

      That was a theory, but it doesn’t hold up given the other details

    • @samanthab1923
      @samanthab1923 Год назад +3

      I watched a Secrets of the Dead on PBS & they did track similar DNA between folks from NC & the part of the UK the settlers were from.

  • @suscon1140
    @suscon1140 Год назад

    Definitely a strange case - the boots and just the distance he covered through the crazy terrain adds so much more mystery to it....

  • @josiaharaki7310
    @josiaharaki7310 Год назад +3

    The Babylon Bee's sister-site, Not the Bee, just posted an article about the moon-eyed people, and the theory they were Prince Marduk of Wales

    • @TheLoreLodge
      @TheLoreLodge  Год назад +2

      Yeah I’ve heard of that, summary research suggested that the story was completely made up much later. I’ll do some more research on it when I do our History Hut channel video on Wales

  • @1Adamrpg
    @1Adamrpg Год назад +1

    I've watched a couple videos covering this topic, but this one was by far the best. I'm sure it is entirely due to you using the primary sources, disentangling them, and also your great question: apes in the mountains? There seems to be growing evidence that protohumans actually crossed the land bridge into North America when it opened up around a hundred thousand years ago, and we know homo erectus is pretty big and tall, so it's fascinatingly plausible that the natives actually caused the extinction of them.

  • @hengedraws
    @hengedraws Год назад +5

    5:17 his reward for committing genocide against the Irish was being given the privilege to commit another genocide, this time against Natives to America

  • @nicholasvalentine2428
    @nicholasvalentine2428 Год назад

    I was born and raised in Tavistock, Devon. This is close to where Sir Francis Drake (Armada 1588) was from (it's 15 miles north of Plymouth). There is a large statue of SFD in the centre of a roundabout in Tavistock. When I was a teenager (am now 50yrs) we had a Spanish boy living with us for a couple of weeks to learn English. He was fiercely patriotic and blamed the defeat of the Armada entirely on the weather (partly true). I made sure that I drove around that roundabout with him a few times. Childish but fun.

  • @Malketh333
    @Malketh333 Год назад +4

    Also sassafras was an ingredient for the original root beers