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@@moriahmelon I wish he had one but i think because the belief is most likely that angels came to earth and bred with humans and those were the giants, he cant make a fully serious video on it lol. Its kind of like the christian version of believing in aliens.
@@x-xPhobia ...and, funny enough, it's a biblical retcon so old that most people don't know it's a retcon. TREY the Explainer has a video on the nephilim which goes into how we've managed to recover scraps of ancient biblical texts that show that, back in the days when Judaism was monolatric (Multiple gods exist, but we only workship one), "nephilim" was how they fitted demigods like Hercules/Herakles into their belief system and "elohim" really WAS a plural ("In the beginning, the gods created the heavens and the earth").
I grew up in the mountains and was terrified of this dude when I was a kid. He was my boogeyman. Now I listen to his story while I drift to sleep. Love it!
I live in Chattanooga, TN and was born in a tiny town called Rossville, GA…it shares a border with Chatt. The town in GA is named for Chief John Ross because he lived there and his house still stands in the middle of town. He was chief of the Cherokee, and Chattanooga has incorporated his legacy into many aspects of the town, including our riverfront park named Ross’ Landing. My grandfather looked full blooded Cherokee, he got it from his grandmother, Mourning Dove. When he settled in Chatt after the war, it was only natural he would build a house on Lookout Mountain, in the middle of the woods. There was a trail from his house to the waterfall just up the hill, and if you were agile, you could follow the creek to the top of the mountain. I roamed all over the mountain as a kid (I can’t imagine a world where I’d ever let my son even go to the waterfall by himself!). Anytime I went into the woods, he’d stop me and tell me to use my eyes and ears. He never said Bigfoot, he just would say that I was safe because we were surrounded by civilization up there, but he said to still be safe. I was obsessed with cryptids growing up, so I would press him about it regularly. He ALWAYS told me his stories…he hated opossums because he was trying to retrieve one from under a tub and it attacked him, leaving a scar on his ankle 60 years later. When his favorite dog came home and died because something in the woods ripped his throat to the point all he could do was come home and die. Junior was a great dog! But when it happened, I heard him mutter, “He gotcha, boy. I’m so sorry”, and then he wrapped him in a blanket and sat in the driveway and held him. Two days later I finally asked him who “He” was. He said, “I don’t think the Cherokee has a name for him, but my grandma said they called him Tsul 'Kalu. I think they meant what they’re calling Bigfoot now. They respected him, but feared him. She said she thought they even used to trade with them by leaving a dressed deer in the woods, and then they’d return and find one of several different things, like a pile of fish or wood that had been busted up to where they could easily tote it back. I don’t know, but I grew up fearing him.” I asked if he ever saw one, and he said no, but regularly if they were deep in the woods, hunting, and they strayed too far into areas they didn’t normally frequent, rocks bigger than they could lift would crash through the trees. Not close to them, but always to the sides. He figured they were warning them off. And he told me another story about finding a full grown hog, slaughtered, missing its back legs, that was thrown on top of the barn. He said they were pretty nonplussed about it because they knew what happened. So I also grew up with your fear of something in the woods, @dko61. Sorry for the wall of text, I didn’t realize when I started typing, that I had this much bouncing around in my head, lol.
I grew up in North Carolina in the Appalachian Mountains. My neighbor was in his 70s and had a great story about his camp being stalked by a Wild Man. It freaked us all out and when we went camping we always ALWAYS set "traps" for them. By traps I mean sticks tied to cans.... we were kids lol.
My great grandpa grew up in Appalachia in the 30s and he had a really interesting wildman story. Unlike his stories of encountering Wampus cats, It was very plain and seemed to scare himself more than us. He was fishing what he called his secret spot on a crick in the bottom of a holler. He always went there on Saturdays after chores were done. One day while down there he heard someone whistling from down stream. He described it as not a tune or bird call, but a series of single note whistles in short durations. As you're aware, Appalachians dont whistle in the woods. So he hunkered down and waited to see what it was that was walking up the crick. On the otherside of the crick he saw what looked like a man he described as being a head taller than his priest (who was 6.5 feet tall) covered in rusty brown hair with owl like eyes and a large forehead. He mustve gasped because the wildman looked right at him, turned around and "took off at a frightful pace up the steep side of the holler as easy as if he were walking on flat ground".
@@Bardes82 You're quite welcome, just speaking the truth. I am a 1/4 Cherokee. I'm from the southeast United States. What part are you and your people from?
I know this will probably be lost in all the comments, but the story that's mentioned around the 17:00 mark about the boy being kidnapped by a wendigo, has a Norwegian equivalent! Except the boy in the Norwegian folktale is kidnapped by visually impaired trolls and fools them by making them slice an iron nail instead of his finger until he is ready to escape. It's probably not super interesting, but it's always fascinating to see what sort of tropes different cultures have in common. Anyways, great video!
That reminds me of Hänsel and Gretel. Their father abandons them in the woods where they discover a house made of gingerbread. They eat some of the house and the witch living there catches them. She makes Gretel a maidservant, and places Hänsel in a cage to fatten and eat him. She checks his weight by feeling his finger too, and he too tricks her, but he uses a little bone Gretel gave him. When the witch gets furious and wants to eat him either way, they trick her, then push her into the oven, burning her to death. Hänsel and Gretel live happily ever after in their gingerbread house.
Okay, you can’t just offhandedly toss out the Mooney reports, and not expect us to scream for, I don’t know, a 2 hour deep dive into this. So DOOOOO EET! (Please?)
You should check out the japanese legend of "namahage" ogres and how much it has in common with these native american legends. Love the channel, keep it up!
Another example would be the English wood-wose. There are many tales about a group of “Wild men of the woods” across the globe that seem to share a common theme. The Wild Men are hairy, primitive, smelly, and are prone to kidnapping women from the “civilized” neighbours. They sometimes have some kind of connection with the liminal world, but they are themselves very much human, or at least mortal. Frankly, the likeliest explanation is that they are a cultural memory of other species of humans, like Neanderthals or Denisovans, that has travelled with us from the regions where we both coexisted into every new region we have come to.
My Friday nights have been rough this year and it's been nice to have these videos to look forward to. Some nice murder, mystery, and mayhem to keep me company. 😅
I grew up in Yurok/Wiyot territory. It's nice to hear about my home area and the entities around it. I've had my share of experiences out there in the redwoods
Found your channel not too long ago, been waiting for a more recent video in hopes you’ll see this but your videos are a god send to a working man working long hours!! I appreciate your native history segments, you’ve done your research and are a fun person to listen to. Forever grateful friend, keep it up! :) please… for my sake
The Danny Devito voice Aiden does at the start of this video? Yeah. We need more of that. I would be in a state of bliss if I heard him, in that voice say: "Christmas shoppin is for the birds. Next year everybody's getting a bottle of 151 and a luchador mask. Even gramma. Especially gramma".
A former Boeing employee who was a whistleblower against the company was just found dead from “self inflicted wounds” in his hotel during the week of his legal interviews. Sounds like something up your alley
@@hermescarraro3393 They're treating us to individual summaries of each cultural group's stories of giants/hairy men. Trey's video focuses more on debunking the myth of a singular native bigfoot legend while also providing a statistical breakdown of the ways the distinct "bigfoot" entities all manage to not be monke
One of the cool things my culture (Plains Cree) has adopted from Saulteaux people is the grandfather teachings. And the grandfather for honesty is represented by a Bigfoot type creature.
Once again a fantastic video! Virtual handshake from an avid watcher from England. I find all American history fascinating and found your channel by chance and been soaking up all your videos. It is fascinating leaning about all the brilliant stories (and sad ones about the missing people) in your vast and beautiful country. We don’t get many stories in England as it’s so small, unless you count next doors cat going feral and being mistaken for a 18ft giant lion for two weeks then everyone realising their mistake when it staggers back home. Great videos, will catch all of them!
My favorite interview from that cat story was the old guy, "it's just a fat f**k of a cat." In a thick ass northern English accent (dunno the name of them all)
13:31 in the 1500's, edward topsell described a new creature from the america's called the bear ape, this "ape" turned out in modern hindsight to be a three toed sloth, given that sloths are very southwest of that area, it's possible sloths had still been considered a type of ape by many at the time
That might be part of the explanation for that word use, but no sloths in Appalachia, so it'd have to be some kind of animals that could be confused for one & I'm at a loss.
I have fished the pigeon river in Haywood county NC, which is just east of Cherokee NC and The Qualla Boundary. The peaks rise around the river to 5,000 ft and the river flows NW towards Newport TN where it meets the French Broad River. Keep up the Native American influence. Thanks for providing a factual education on these matters!
Love the video! Just wanted to say a map in this would've been so cool and I feel like that could apply well to many of your other videos! Could be something cool to think about in the future! Love your videos, keep it up!
That was great. I have to tell you, well i dont HAVE to tell you, but im going to. I love the history in your lessons(?) stories (?) lectures, but my favorites are when you talk a little civics. Its always a roller coaster. I laugh, frown, clap, cheer and sometimes cuss a bit. You even told me off once, which i appreciated. You do read the comments, you are confident and kind. A fine young man. If i were your grandma i would never stop bragging
Gotta say, I came here from Wendigoon/the Weird Bible Podcast, so I was *floored* when you casually mentioned getting beat up by Bigfoot. Only when you mentioned needing legal representation did I audibly laugh out loud and say “Okay this is an ad read” 😂 well done, you certainly got me
I once saw something in the woods, it had longer jet black hair all over it's body. It was 7 or 8 feet tall and lanky. It saw me on top of a cliff, maybe 20 feet away from it. It was already facing the cliff when I walked up. I couldnt see it's eyes or face. Only the jet black hair all over. The only features I could make out where the hands, with the hair coming up to them like a sleeve. Then it slowly backed into the trees. I never told anyone until years later, hearing a native account of the same creature. I dont go in the woods anymore
Reminds me of the story of Devil's Island. A true story. Some prisoners escaped but had no food. So, as one died they ate him. Fast forward. The survivors were recaptured. Two men, one who had previously escaped, got away. The guy who had previously escaped, although not starving, killed and ate his companion. A short time later he was captured. When asked why he ate his pal, he said he got a taste for human flesh. This time, he was executed.
The film Van Diemans Land, based on the account of a prisoner who escaped a penal colony there, follows a group of escapees who can find nothing to eat in the Van Dieman(Tasmanian) wilderness. Starving, they eventually breakdown and eat the first to die. After that they each try to plot and make alliances to avoid being the next meal. Lowish budget and not great but some interesting ideas involved. The original story teller I think was not really believed. I can't remember anything else I'm going to look it up now.
Hi Aidan! Quick correction (haven’t seen yet in the comments) - Yurok is pronounced “yuhr-OCK” (as opposed to “YOU-rock” which is incorrect). I worked for the tribe and loved my time on rez. I love your videos! Thank you for always honoring the original inhabitants of this land and making time to include Indigenous voices, authors, and stories.
You guys are the best. The fact that you care to provide the history of regions where crimes happened, and deliver Native American lore, is my favorite part of your channel - and that says a lot, considering I respect your case research more than I can express!
Interestingly, legends of Human-Like Monsters are also pretty common in Europe and Asia, a few examples like Ogres, Trolls, Oni, and a plethora of Giants. So it is possible that European Settles heard these Native American tales of Wildmen and they associate it to the legends they may be familiar with from the Old World. In fact, in modern days Bigfoot tends to be heavily associated with the Yeti from the Himalayas. Also you probably heard about Teddy Roosevelt telling a story about a Bigfoot encounter he heard from someone else, in that story the Bigfoot creature was referred as a Goblin
I lived in rural west salem oregon in 2013. My house was up next to a forest. One night around 11pm i was sitting on my porch and all of the sudden what sounded like was huge branch or tree was broke off and then nastiest, deepest growl ive ever heard was directed my way 25ft from the forest. I was stunned..I thought i was imagining it..and then it did the growl again. A bear, mountain lion, dog or human was not capable of this sound. I was so terrified that i went inside and didnt even try to look out the window. I was the biggest skeptic until that moment. From what i gather in my own research from others experiences is that it was a sasquatch trying to intimidate me. It was a truly unbelievable experience to me. No one ever believes in sasquatch until it happens to them. I wish people had more of an open mind to the existence this creature. Truly terrifying though.
@@markjackson3531 it was like clearly some an animal with huge lungs, direct, and intentional. Like it was definitely a beast. The growl filled the whole area.
My mom is Seminole, from Florida, and she told us about how bigfoot would follow her and her brother and sister to school every morning and home in the afternoon. He never would get to close. She said they never felt scared of it. It was like a guardian.
Honestly blown away by the level of research. In the year or so I've been watching, the editing, research and delivery has improved so dramatically. Thanks guys
I hadn’t considered that earlier, but now that you mention it, yeah that would be a possibility. Hey guys, don’t eat for a week and then also don’t call for help.
Fasting is also used in spiritual ways, often to purify or to induce altered states of consciousness. Perhaps these Sasquatches weren't entirely material beings and not everyone is capable of seeing them without some a ritual preparation.
Don't try to rationalize it by making The story more complicated keep it simple... An upright walking very very large primate in North America That's already pretty fantastic you Don't need to make it any more....
I tune out for five seconds and suddenly this guy is talking about being bodied by Bigfoot and how he’s in the process of suing him. Took a solid ten seconds for my brain to catch up with the ad read.
Great video. You are a very educated and talented young man. Your best videos are when you have the ego in check. It is refreshing when you show humility. Sometimes huberous takes over, then the videos are not so enjoyable. Hope this is not offensive, just some unsolicited advice from an old man. Keep up the good work, much appreciated.
My life has been a complete and total misery ever since Bigfoot stole my precious girlfriend in the middle of the night. 😒 He even took all her clothes and the T.V. 😔
It's really interesting how much these legends have in common with a lot of western fairy tales. The Tale of the "Indian devils" is somewhat reminiscent of Beauty and the Beast, although it also has some striking similarities with part of Tolkien's "The Fall of Gondolin". In the latter, Eol, the Dark Elf, kidnaps Aredhel, the sister of Turgon, the king of Gondolin. He marries her and lavishes her with the riches of his private domain, but she misses her home and eventually escapes with her son Maeglin back to Gondolin and the protection of her brother. Eol tracks the two there, however, and tries to take them back by force, although he is quickly captured... It is also noteworthy that the son becomes increasingly like his father, to the point that he is later the one to sell Gondolin out to Morgoth. The tale of the Wendigo has a lot of thematic similarities with Hansel and Gretel, where the wendigo is constantly checking to see if the child has fattened up enough to eat.
Lived in NC nearly all my life never heard of any apes or Bigfoot here. Now the people that move in from other states and tourists seem fascinated by the subject. The towns are all to happy to start Bigfoot festivals etc.
as a man who has had the displeasure of making an overly strong first impression, i sympathize with tsul kalu greatly. I wont talk abut my mother in law, though. because i don't dare to 🤣
I love all the content that o have seen on this channel, my only gripe with any of the videos is the lack of proper subtitles as the Auto-generated captions are frankly completely crap and end up making you more confused than if you dont have them at all
Wasn't expecting my tribal group (the Powhatan) to be mentioned in this, but man I was so glad to hear yous talk about us! Amazing video as always, and it's good to know that the Wendigo is a ✨Material Girl✨
came here from the bell's canyon video. i've watched some of these bigfoot videos before but i'm not sure which so i'm going to watch them all :3 love bigfoot. great narrative!
I live in Hawaii for a long time and there are stories of the Polynesian people making it all the way to the Pacific Northwest and their canoes catamarans
Forgot name of channel but there's a guy who specializes in DNA and native American history and he has found several tribes with Polynesian DNA. He also found Celtics, African, Australian aboriginal, Minoan, Greek, Phoenician, Mongolian, soultran (original inhabitants of Europe before the Indo-European peoples arrived) shit almost forgot the Cherokee whose DNA was bout 70% Hebrew and a different video I saw that's unrelated but this guy on this other video points out that the Cherokee alphabet was exactly the same as the ancient Hebrew alphabet but reversed. It looks like pretty much everyone has left a little DNA in America
@jamessutton4204 Probably shouldn't trust that guy with the alphabet stuff. The Cherokee did not have written language until the 1810s to 1820s, when one of their members made an alphabet based on various western characters. I don't know the Hebrew alphabet very well, so there could be some similarity, but it sounds like he's trying to mislead you.
Check out “Edge of the Knife”. A Haida story of a man’s transformation into a Wildman. Excellent depiction of the PNW “wildman” which is centered in realism. Definitely not a bigfoot legend but should be required viewing for anyone who wants to discuss the native wild man.
It should be noted that wrapped up within the "Indian Devils" and the wendigo legend is the absolutely stone cold fact that some Native nations, especially in the Northeastern Woodlands like the Iroquoian Haudenosenee and Algonquian speaking nations, practiced ritual cannibalism in the context of warfare, which would fuel, especially in the early years like in the Strachey account and the 17th century documentation would become confused into "Bigfoot" mythology. In the context of mourning war, the linguistically different Haudenosenee or Wendat warriors became literal "devils" who took women captive and married them and would eat (parts of, not for food but ritually) men. They became temporary wendigos to Algonquians. Even to the nations that practiced ritual cannibalism, other native nations were "devils" as this Mohawk describes to James Smith in the 1750s- Also they're hunting Eastern Woodland Buffalo, not the Plains buffalo. "...Solomon seemed to be upon his guard, went very slow, and would frequently stand and listen, and appeared to be in suspense. We came to where the tracks were very plain in the sand, and I said it is surely buffaloe tracks ; he said hush, you know nothing , may be buffaloe tracks, may be Catawba. He went very cautious until we found some fresh buffaloe dung: he then smiled and said Catawba can not make so. He then flopped and told me an odd story about the Catawbas. He said that formerly the Catawbas came near one of their hunting camps, and at some distance from the camp lay in ambush, and in order to decoy them out, sent two or three Catawbas in the night, pan: their camp, with buffaloe hoofs fixed on their feet, so as to make artificial tracks. In the morning those in the camp followed after these tracks, thinking they were Buffaloe, until they were fired on by the Catawbas, and several of them killed; the others fled, collected a party and pursued the Catawbas; but they, in their subtly brought with them rattle-snake poison, which they had collected from the bladder that lieth at the root of the snakes' teeth ; this they had corked up in a short piece of cane-stalk ; they had also brought with them small cane or reed, about the size of a rye straw, which they made sharp at the end like a pen, and dipped them in this poison, and stuck them in the ground among the grass, along their own tracks, in such a position that they might stick into the legs of the pursuers, which answered the design ; and as the Catawbas had runners behind to watch the motions of the pursuers, when they found that a number cf them were lame, being artificially snake bit, and that they were all turning back, the Catawbas turned upon the pursuers, and defeated them, and killed and scalped all those that were lame. - When Solomon had finished this story, and found that I understood him, concluded by saying, you don t know, Catawba very bad Indian, Catawba all one Devil Catawba..." archive.org/details/accountofremarka00smit/page/22/mode/2up?q=catawba
I'm trying to find direct references to the cannibalism among the Iroquois & only know about the passage from DeChamplain where his Native allies in the Ticonderoga War force fed human meat to their Iroquois captives as a method of torture.
@@MrChristianDT Check the digitized versions of the Jesuit Relations as well as the Sir William Johnson papers. There will be loads in there just for starters. There's tons of accounts. Charles Langlade (who was half Odawa) and his warriors ritually ate Memiskia's heart at Pickawillany in 1753. I'll see what I have in my files that are specifically Longhouse.
The restrictions on the viewing these men remind me of the myth of Cupid and Psyche. She married Cupid but was not able to view him and got punished when she tries to. Really interesting connection.
My Dad has a camp on the Juanita River and got a book about the Natives from the area. They had a chief they called "The Great One." He was described as irregularly tall and had legs as thick as trees.
I grew up in the san juaquin valley as well as in the lake tahoe areas. This monster as well as the predator like thing which was in fact invisible would cast a slight shadow despite its saran wrap like appearance within the Yosemite woods, were both completely terrifying boogey mem for me as a kid. Although im now 48, i still 100% remember the things ive seen, with great clarity. Scary stuff lol. Thanks for the story, it was really great!!!
I also grew up around the Reno Tahoe area and had several encounters with Sasquatch and this predator like being I’ve never met anyone else that’s seen this being before it was the most terrifying experience of my life and I saw it 3 times now
I'm always blown away by the amount of research these youtubers do and how intelligent they are, yet they always get pronunciations wrong. Wiyot is pronounced wee-ot. Cmon lore lodge!
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Damn, I thought I would only see this ad on tv
Really???
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Gotta keep working on your Frank…
the lead up to that ad was the trippiest 😅
Lore Lodge: "The Wendigo may, depending on the story, also be a giant."
Wendigoon: *G I A N T ?*
where can i watch the giant video everyone speaks of 😭😭
@@moriahmelonI think it's just a running joke from a Bible video where they mention giants but now it comes up whenever he sees the word giants 😂
@@moriahmelon I wish he had one but i think because the belief is most likely that angels came to earth and bred with humans and those were the giants, he cant make a fully serious video on it lol. Its kind of like the christian version of believing in aliens.
@@x-xPhobia ...and, funny enough, it's a biblical retcon so old that most people don't know it's a retcon. TREY the Explainer has a video on the nephilim which goes into how we've managed to recover scraps of ancient biblical texts that show that, back in the days when Judaism was monolatric (Multiple gods exist, but we only workship one), "nephilim" was how they fitted demigods like Hercules/Herakles into their belief system and "elohim" really WAS a plural ("In the beginning, the gods created the heavens and the earth").
He has kind eyes!
I grew up in the mountains and was terrified of this dude when I was a kid. He was my boogeyman. Now I listen to his story while I drift to sleep. Love it!
I didn't think Aiden was that scary.
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I live in Chattanooga, TN and was born in a tiny town called Rossville, GA…it shares a border with Chatt. The town in GA is named for Chief John Ross because he lived there and his house still stands in the middle of town. He was chief of the Cherokee, and Chattanooga has incorporated his legacy into many aspects of the town, including our riverfront park named Ross’ Landing. My grandfather looked full blooded Cherokee, he got it from his grandmother, Mourning Dove. When he settled in Chatt after the war, it was only natural he would build a house on Lookout Mountain, in the middle of the woods. There was a trail from his house to the waterfall just up the hill, and if you were agile, you could follow the creek to the top of the mountain. I roamed all over the mountain as a kid (I can’t imagine a world where I’d ever let my son even go to the waterfall by himself!). Anytime I went into the woods, he’d stop me and tell me to use my eyes and ears. He never said Bigfoot, he just would say that I was safe because we were surrounded by civilization up there, but he said to still be safe. I was obsessed with cryptids growing up, so I would press him about it regularly. He ALWAYS told me his stories…he hated opossums because he was trying to retrieve one from under a tub and it attacked him, leaving a scar on his ankle 60 years later. When his favorite dog came home and died because something in the woods ripped his throat to the point all he could do was come home and die. Junior was a great dog! But when it happened, I heard him mutter, “He gotcha, boy. I’m so sorry”, and then he wrapped him in a blanket and sat in the driveway and held him. Two days later I finally asked him who “He” was. He said, “I don’t think the Cherokee has a name for him, but my grandma said they called him Tsul 'Kalu. I think they meant what they’re calling Bigfoot now. They respected him, but feared him. She said she thought they even used to trade with them by leaving a dressed deer in the woods, and then they’d return and find one of several different things, like a pile of fish or wood that had been busted up to where they could easily tote it back. I don’t know, but I grew up fearing him.” I asked if he ever saw one, and he said no, but regularly if they were deep in the woods, hunting, and they strayed too far into areas they didn’t normally frequent, rocks bigger than they could lift would crash through the trees. Not close to them, but always to the sides. He figured they were warning them off. And he told me another story about finding a full grown hog, slaughtered, missing its back legs, that was thrown on top of the barn. He said they were pretty nonplussed about it because they knew what happened. So I also grew up with your fear of something in the woods, @dko61. Sorry for the wall of text, I didn’t realize when I started typing, that I had this much bouncing around in my head, lol.
I thought he was talking about Danny Devito from the opening.
Damn you @Farm_Emo !!! You stole my joke
I grew up in North Carolina in the Appalachian Mountains. My neighbor was in his 70s and had a great story about his camp being stalked by a Wild Man. It freaked us all out and when we went camping we always ALWAYS set "traps" for them. By traps I mean sticks tied to cans.... we were kids lol.
The string and cans is a time tested classic at the least it gives you time to react or will just scare whatevers too close off
My great grandpa grew up in Appalachia in the 30s and he had a really interesting wildman story. Unlike his stories of encountering Wampus cats, It was very plain and seemed to scare himself more than us.
He was fishing what he called his secret spot on a crick in the bottom of a holler. He always went there on Saturdays after chores were done. One day while down there he heard someone whistling from down stream. He described it as not a tune or bird call, but a series of single note whistles in short durations. As you're aware, Appalachians dont whistle in the woods. So he hunkered down and waited to see what it was that was walking up the crick. On the otherside of the crick he saw what looked like a man he described as being a head taller than his priest (who was 6.5 feet tall) covered in rusty brown hair with owl like eyes and a large forehead. He mustve gasped because the wildman looked right at him, turned around and "took off at a frightful pace up the steep side of the holler as easy as if he were walking on flat ground".
I'm Ojibwe and what I was always told is that the wendigo will grow as big as his appetite, meaning that it grows bigger with every meal.
WOW!! OJIBWE people are gorgeous!
@@nouse4aname_ Thank you so much!
@@Bardes82 You're quite welcome, just speaking the truth. I am a 1/4 Cherokee. I'm from the southeast United States. What part are you and your people from?
I know this will probably be lost in all the comments, but the story that's mentioned around the 17:00 mark about the boy being kidnapped by a wendigo, has a Norwegian equivalent! Except the boy in the Norwegian folktale is kidnapped by visually impaired trolls and fools them by making them slice an iron nail instead of his finger until he is ready to escape. It's probably not super interesting, but it's always fascinating to see what sort of tropes different cultures have in common. Anyways, great video!
That reminds me of Hänsel and Gretel. Their father abandons them in the woods where they discover a house made of gingerbread. They eat some of the house and the witch living there catches them. She makes Gretel a maidservant, and places Hänsel in a cage to fatten and eat him. She checks his weight by feeling his finger too, and he too tricks her, but he uses a little bone Gretel gave him. When the witch gets furious and wants to eat him either way, they trick her, then push her into the oven, burning her to death. Hänsel and Gretel live happily ever after in their gingerbread house.
@@fynnwhiteremember this well! Being 63 this was a well known story from my childhood. Shame it's not shared these days!
She said, “The cave was very nice but I just didn’t like the granite countertops.”
Man been unable to please women since Adam and Eve.
@@LOGOS_Official yep. 🤣
Lol! Both of yalls comments are gold 😂
So, she painted them charcoal.
Often people take things for granite
"A spiritual being, that shoots poison arrows" Well that's scarier than most poltergeists.
This sounds like the work....OF AN ENEMY STAND!
At least you can’t say it leaves its actions up to interpretation.
Machiavellian
@@francinesmith1889i dont think you know what that word means
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This is about the dumbest response I've seen in a while
I live on the yurok Rez. In Klamath glen. We actually have a Bigfoot grave in our town site
Please explain more
@@TheLoreLodge right that seems like something that would be intriguing to see
@@TheLoreLodgeIt's pronounced 'yer-rock'
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Tell us some more about it, please.
Englishmen looking at Natives: "Savages, I can't believe they live this way"
Natives looking at bigfoots: "Savages, can't believe they live this way"
I was thinking the same. 😂
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Bigfoot: I have returned to Monke
Bigfoot looking at Englishmen: "Savages, I can't believe they live this way"
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Okay, you can’t just offhandedly toss out the Mooney reports, and not expect us to scream for, I don’t know, a 2 hour deep dive into this. So DOOOOO EET! (Please?)
"Nom Nom, some Wagyu kids." Probably one of my favorite lines so far. 😂😂
You should check out the japanese legend of "namahage" ogres and how much it has in common with these native american legends. Love the channel, keep it up!
Like the Manx buggane as well.
Another example would be the English wood-wose. There are many tales about a group of “Wild men of the woods” across the globe that seem to share a common theme. The Wild Men are hairy, primitive, smelly, and are prone to kidnapping women from the “civilized” neighbours. They sometimes have some kind of connection with the liminal world, but they are themselves very much human, or at least mortal.
Frankly, the likeliest explanation is that they are a cultural memory of other species of humans, like Neanderthals or Denisovans, that has travelled with us from the regions where we both coexisted into every new region we have come to.
My Friday nights have been rough this year and it's been nice to have these videos to look forward to. Some nice murder, mystery, and mayhem to keep me company. 😅
Same 💯
Sometimes you must keep keeping on hard has it may be
I grew up in Yurok/Wiyot territory. It's nice to hear about my home area and the entities around it. I've had my share of experiences out there in the redwoods
Is there a Bigfoot/Sasquatch grave there?
I smoked a joint and binged you
New follower, happy to be here 🖤
Found your channel not too long ago, been waiting for a more recent video in hopes you’ll see this but your videos are a god send to a working man working long hours!! I appreciate your native history segments, you’ve done your research and are a fun person to listen to. Forever grateful friend, keep it up! :) please… for my sake
You know it's a good day when one of these comes out
The Danny Devito voice Aiden does at the start of this video? Yeah. We need more of that. I would be in a state of bliss if I heard him, in that voice say: "Christmas shoppin is for the birds. Next year everybody's getting a bottle of 151 and a luchador mask. Even gramma. Especially gramma".
A former Boeing employee who was a whistleblower against the company was just found dead from “self inflicted wounds” in his hotel during the week of his legal interviews. Sounds like something up your alley
He may cover this later on once the case blows over. I don’t think there’s too much info right now on that
@@Zer-db1bp how about now that another whistleblower at Boeing has mysteriously ended up dead?
It's happened again, so now 2 whistleblowers dead .. Nothing strange there. Lol
@shaggybrown420 do you want him killed by Boeing?
It's true Boeing killed me
Having already seen Trey The Explainer's video on the same topic, I can't wait to see the direction the Lore Lads take
Same here! I'm so fucking excited to see the Lore Lodge's take on it after Trey's video
Hey. Thanks for making this comment! It turned me on to Trey's content, which I'd not seen to date.
What direction did they take?
The lore lodge I mean
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Please tell me they said things as they really are
@@hermescarraro3393 They're treating us to individual summaries of each cultural group's stories of giants/hairy men. Trey's video focuses more on debunking the myth of a singular native bigfoot legend while also providing a statistical breakdown of the ways the distinct "bigfoot" entities all manage to not be monke
One of the cool things my culture (Plains Cree) has adopted from Saulteaux people is the grandfather teachings. And the grandfather for honesty is represented by a Bigfoot type creature.
Once again a fantastic video!
Virtual handshake from an avid watcher from England.
I find all American history fascinating and found your channel by chance and been soaking up all your videos.
It is fascinating leaning about all the brilliant stories (and sad ones about the missing people) in your vast and beautiful country.
We don’t get many stories in England as it’s so small, unless you count next doors cat going feral and being mistaken for a 18ft giant lion for two weeks then everyone realising their mistake when it staggers back home.
Great videos, will catch all of them!
My favorite interview from that cat story was the old guy, "it's just a fat f**k of a cat." In a thick ass northern English accent (dunno the name of them all)
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in the 1500's, edward topsell described a new creature from the america's called the bear ape, this "ape" turned out in modern hindsight to be a three toed sloth, given that sloths are very southwest of that area, it's possible sloths had still been considered a type of ape by many at the time
That might be part of the explanation for that word use, but no sloths in Appalachia, so it'd have to be some kind of animals that could be confused for one & I'm at a loss.
These women running off with Indian Devils sound like that era's crunchy mom tbh
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Lmao
Hey, we got monster f*ckers today. Prettly likely theyve always been around.
frrr like you can provide me with comfy buckskin dresses and a fun nature filled childhood for our children? i’m in.
@@onemoreloser what else could a woman want??
I have fished the pigeon river in Haywood county NC, which is just east of Cherokee NC and The Qualla Boundary. The peaks rise around the river to 5,000 ft and the river flows NW towards Newport TN where it meets the French Broad River. Keep up the Native American influence. Thanks for providing a factual education on these matters!
I live fifteen minutes west of Cherokee if u ever want to fish this area we could trade some fishing trips
Love the video! Just wanted to say a map in this would've been so cool and I feel like that could apply well to many of your other videos! Could be something cool to think about in the future! Love your videos, keep it up!
A whole multi-part series just on the first Nations beliefs and concepts about bigfoot? Count me in!
That was great. I have to tell you, well i dont HAVE to tell you, but im going to. I love the history in your lessons(?) stories (?) lectures, but my favorites are when you talk a little civics. Its always a roller coaster. I laugh, frown, clap, cheer and sometimes cuss a bit.
You even told me off once, which i appreciated. You do read the comments, you are confident and kind. A fine young man. If i were your grandma i would never stop bragging
Gotta say, I came here from Wendigoon/the Weird Bible Podcast, so I was *floored* when you casually mentioned getting beat up by Bigfoot. Only when you mentioned needing legal representation did I audibly laugh out loud and say “Okay this is an ad read” 😂 well done, you certainly got me
Best lore lodge intro yet
I once saw something in the woods, it had longer jet black hair all over it's body. It was 7 or 8 feet tall and lanky. It saw me on top of a cliff, maybe 20 feet away from it. It was already facing the cliff when I walked up. I couldnt see it's eyes or face. Only the jet black hair all over. The only features I could make out where the hands, with the hair coming up to them like a sleeve. Then it slowly backed into the trees. I never told anyone until years later, hearing a native account of the same creature. I dont go in the woods anymore
Had to admit I was surprised by your new sponsor. Litigation attorneys...only thing scarier than the Wendigo.
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Lol
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The appearance of doggo brings joy
Reminds me of the story of Devil's Island. A true story. Some prisoners escaped but had no food. So, as one died they ate him. Fast forward. The survivors were recaptured. Two men, one who had previously escaped, got away. The guy who had previously escaped, although not starving, killed and ate his companion. A short time later he was captured. When asked why he ate his pal, he said he got a taste for human flesh. This time, he was executed.
The film Van Diemans Land, based on the account of a prisoner who escaped a penal colony there, follows a group of escapees who can find nothing to eat in the Van Dieman(Tasmanian) wilderness. Starving, they eventually breakdown and eat the first to die. After that they each try to plot and make alliances to avoid being the next meal. Lowish budget and not great but some interesting ideas involved. The original story teller I think was not really believed. I can't remember anything else I'm going to look it up now.
Love the always sunny reference! Dr. Mantis Tobagan.
Hi Aidan! Quick correction (haven’t seen yet in the comments) - Yurok is pronounced “yuhr-OCK” (as opposed to “YOU-rock” which is incorrect). I worked for the tribe and loved my time on rez. I love your videos! Thank you for always honoring the original inhabitants of this land and making time to include Indigenous voices, authors, and stories.
That Danny DeVito impression floored me. 🤣
6:20 The Saskettes? Now I want to see their kickline, should be a sight to see with their big feet.
You guys are the best. The fact that you care to provide the history of regions where crimes happened, and deliver Native American lore, is my favorite part of your channel - and that says a lot, considering I respect your case research more than I can express!
That open just made me real happy to be apart of this community. I hope everyone is doing well & loved the video❤
Interestingly, legends of Human-Like Monsters are also pretty common in Europe and Asia, a few examples like Ogres, Trolls, Oni, and a plethora of Giants. So it is possible that European Settles heard these Native American tales of Wildmen and they associate it to the legends they may be familiar with from the Old World. In fact, in modern days Bigfoot tends to be heavily associated with the Yeti from the Himalayas. Also you probably heard about Teddy Roosevelt telling a story about a Bigfoot encounter he heard from someone else, in that story the Bigfoot creature was referred as a Goblin
You're one of the few creators whose videos I always watch until the very end. Keep up the great work!
"Baaaabe, more Bigfoot lore"
Appalachian here from the lands of the Cherokee, excited for this one!
Also Davy Crockett tells a tale about killing a Yahoo.. or Yihoo aka wildman AKA Sasquatch
I lived in rural west salem oregon in 2013. My house was up next to a forest. One night around 11pm i was sitting on my porch and all of the sudden what sounded like was huge branch or tree was broke off and then nastiest, deepest growl ive ever heard was directed my way 25ft from the forest. I was stunned..I thought i was imagining it..and then it did the growl again. A bear, mountain lion, dog or human was not capable of this sound. I was so terrified that i went inside and didnt even try to look out the window. I was the biggest skeptic until that moment. From what i gather in my own research from others experiences is that it was a sasquatch trying to intimidate me. It was a truly unbelievable experience to me. No one ever believes in sasquatch until it happens to them. I wish people had more of an open mind to the existence this creature. Truly terrifying though.
I'm going to assume you listened to bear, moose, wolf, etc growls....how was the one you heard, different?
@@markjackson3531 it was like clearly some an animal with huge lungs, direct, and intentional. Like it was definitely a beast. The growl filled the whole area.
Coos Bay people (SW Oregon) mention the giants, nicknamed 'forest people' (nuk'wiinu me in hanis, nuk'wiin də k'a in miluk).
My mom is Seminole, from Florida, and she told us about how bigfoot would follow her and her brother and sister to school every morning and home in the afternoon. He never would get to close. She said they never felt scared of it. It was like a guardian.
This is similar to the way he was talked about in my central Appalachian home. Protectors.
Honestly blown away by the level of research. In the year or so I've been watching, the editing, research and delivery has improved so dramatically. Thanks guys
That fasting request seems to have been a way to weaken the settlement.
I hadn’t considered that earlier, but now that you mention it, yeah that would be a possibility.
Hey guys, don’t eat for a week and then also don’t call for help.
Fasting is also used in spiritual ways, often to purify or to induce altered states of consciousness. Perhaps these Sasquatches weren't entirely material beings and not everyone is capable of seeing them without some a ritual preparation.
Don't try to rationalize it by making The story more complicated keep it simple... An upright walking very very large primate in North America That's already pretty fantastic you Don't need to make it any more....
@@RaeHadzega spiritual fasting is an individual act. There was no rationale for the entire clan to undergo the ritual.
@@joeyhoward2669 please go on, I’d love to know where you were going with that thought process.
Bigfoot claims he once saw Chuck Norris but nobody believes him.
Bigfoot fears Chuck Norris taking their wives
Oh wowwww just wowewwzers ur so intellectual
I actually got to meet Chuck Norris during one of my Iraq deployments. I don't wanna brag but I shook his hand and survived 😂
@@briandavis4916 did u find any wmds or just Christian and Muslim kids
WoMan with D*cks? I thought they were anti-trans out there.@@Trebelsi
Jesus christ, the video sponsor integration made me feel like either you or i were having a stroke
😂😂 SAME!
Thanks for your hard work researching for your videos !
That intro was beyond gold
The Wendigo legends always creep me out, Great over all video as always Aidan
I tune out for five seconds and suddenly this guy is talking about being bodied by Bigfoot and how he’s in the process of suing him. Took a solid ten seconds for my brain to catch up with the ad read.
Man, this is well-researched and well-presented. The work involved really shows. New sub.
You make this easy for a dumb dumb like me to follow. Love your format and delivery. I'm hooked!
I come for the lore, I stay for the Morgan & Morgan ads
The “MATERIAL WORLD” part startled me.
I lol’d at Wagyu kids… what’s wrong with me
I am almost positive that the chief pictured is Wolf Robe, who is Souther Cheyenne, not Cherokee. They didn't geographically overlap, iirc.
Appears to be an editing error
Great video. You are a very educated and talented young man. Your best videos are when you have the ego in check. It is refreshing when you show humility. Sometimes huberous takes over, then the videos are not so enjoyable. Hope this is not offensive, just some unsolicited advice from an old man. Keep up the good work, much appreciated.
I grew up only an hour away from Cherokee NC, I always love seeing their stories popping up.
My life has been a complete and total misery ever since Bigfoot stole my precious girlfriend in the middle of the night. 😒 He even took all her clothes and the T.V. 😔
I'll bet he left the bills, though!🤣
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They always take the TV! Last time, me and my wife were saving to buy a house.
Well...my wife showed back up, but the $30k hasn't been seen since.
I have that same Smartwool sweater. Oddly enough, I'm wearing it while watching this video. Spooky.
It's really interesting how much these legends have in common with a lot of western fairy tales.
The Tale of the "Indian devils" is somewhat reminiscent of Beauty and the Beast, although it also has some striking similarities with part of Tolkien's "The Fall of Gondolin".
In the latter, Eol, the Dark Elf, kidnaps Aredhel, the sister of Turgon, the king of Gondolin. He marries her and lavishes her with the riches of his private domain, but she misses her home and eventually escapes with her son Maeglin back to Gondolin and the protection of her brother. Eol tracks the two there, however, and tries to take them back by force, although he is quickly captured... It is also noteworthy that the son becomes increasingly like his father, to the point that he is later the one to sell Gondolin out to Morgoth.
The tale of the Wendigo has a lot of thematic similarities with Hansel and Gretel, where the wendigo is constantly checking to see if the child has fattened up enough to eat.
There are also similarities to Cupid and Psyche and to tales of people taken by the faeries.
I came to find this comment. I had hoped someone more eloquent than me posted it lol
When Aiden switched over to saying “I got attacked by the Bigfoot” I was so confused and honestly believed him until I realized it was an ad
Lived in NC nearly all my life never heard of any apes or Bigfoot here. Now the people that move in from other states and tourists seem fascinated by the subject. The towns are all to happy to start Bigfoot festivals etc.
OMG I lost it at the Wendigo in a Material World bit 😂 Genius! I was NOT expecting that! 🎉 Loved it!
i misread this title as "the naive american bigfoot"... i thought we were going to learn about bigfoot's blissful ignorance
haha loved this comment
What you eat affects your odor. Look up the stories from vietnam.
as a man who has had the displeasure of making an overly strong first impression, i sympathize with tsul kalu greatly.
I wont talk abut my mother in law, though. because i don't dare to 🤣
4:15 Reminds me of the South Park thing where you have a new random dog laying next to you every other scene.
I love all the content that o have seen on this channel, my only gripe with any of the videos is the lack of proper subtitles as the Auto-generated captions are frankly completely crap and end up making you more confused than if you dont have them at all
Wasn't expecting my tribal group (the Powhatan) to be mentioned in this, but man I was so glad to hear yous talk about us! Amazing video as always, and it's good to know that the Wendigo is a ✨Material Girl✨
I'm descended from Powhatan also!!! First time I've ever heard of anyone else!!!!
@@katherinecarpenter4677 AYYYYYYY! One of my best friends is also descended from the Powhatan tribal group!!!
came here from the bell's canyon video. i've watched some of these bigfoot videos before but i'm not sure which so i'm going to watch them all :3 love bigfoot. great narrative!
I live in Hawaii for a long time and there are stories of the Polynesian people making it all the way to the Pacific Northwest and their canoes catamarans
Forgot name of channel but there's a guy who specializes in DNA and native American history and he has found several tribes with Polynesian DNA. He also found Celtics, African, Australian aboriginal, Minoan, Greek, Phoenician, Mongolian, soultran (original inhabitants of Europe before the Indo-European peoples arrived) shit almost forgot the Cherokee whose DNA was bout 70% Hebrew and a different video I saw that's unrelated but this guy on this other video points out that the Cherokee alphabet was exactly the same as the ancient Hebrew alphabet but reversed. It looks like pretty much everyone has left a little DNA in America
@jamessutton4204 Probably shouldn't trust that guy with the alphabet stuff. The Cherokee did not have written language until the 1810s to 1820s, when one of their members made an alphabet based on various western characters. I don't know the Hebrew alphabet very well, so there could be some similarity, but it sounds like he's trying to mislead you.
Mkay back to the kitchen pls thnx 😅
Check out “Edge of the Knife”. A Haida story of a man’s transformation into a Wildman. Excellent depiction of the PNW “wildman” which is centered in realism.
Definitely not a bigfoot legend but should be required viewing for anyone who wants to discuss the native wild man.
It should be noted that wrapped up within the "Indian Devils" and the wendigo legend is the absolutely stone cold fact that some Native nations, especially in the Northeastern Woodlands like the Iroquoian Haudenosenee and Algonquian speaking nations, practiced ritual cannibalism in the context of warfare, which would fuel, especially in the early years like in the Strachey account and the 17th century documentation would become confused into "Bigfoot" mythology. In the context of mourning war, the linguistically different Haudenosenee or Wendat warriors became literal "devils" who took women captive and married them and would eat (parts of, not for food but ritually) men. They became temporary wendigos to Algonquians.
Even to the nations that practiced ritual cannibalism, other native nations were "devils" as this Mohawk describes to James Smith in the 1750s- Also they're hunting Eastern Woodland Buffalo, not the Plains buffalo.
"...Solomon seemed to be upon his guard, went very slow, and would frequently stand and listen, and appeared to be in suspense. We came to where the tracks were very plain in the sand, and I said it is surely buffaloe tracks ; he said hush, you know nothing , may be buffaloe tracks, may be Catawba. He went very cautious until we found some fresh buffaloe dung: he then smiled and said Catawba can not make so. He then flopped and told me an odd story about the Catawbas. He said that formerly the Catawbas came near one of their hunting camps, and at some distance from the camp lay in ambush, and in order to decoy them out, sent two or three Catawbas in the night, pan: their camp, with buffaloe hoofs fixed on their feet, so as to make artificial tracks. In the morning those in the camp followed after these tracks, thinking they were Buffaloe, until they were fired on by the Catawbas, and several of them killed; the others fled, collected a party and pursued the Catawbas; but they, in their subtly brought with them rattle-snake poison, which they had collected from the bladder that lieth at the root of the snakes' teeth ; this they had corked up in a short piece of cane-stalk ; they had also brought with them small cane or reed, about the size of a rye straw, which they made sharp at the end like a pen, and dipped them in this poison, and stuck them in the ground among the grass, along their own tracks, in such a position that they might stick into the legs of the pursuers, which answered the design ; and as the Catawbas had runners behind to watch the motions of the pursuers, when they found that a number cf them were lame, being artificially snake bit, and that they were all turning back, the Catawbas turned upon the pursuers, and defeated them, and killed and scalped all those that were lame. - When Solomon had finished this story, and found that I understood him, concluded by saying, you don t know, Catawba very bad Indian, Catawba all one Devil Catawba..."
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I'm trying to find direct references to the cannibalism among the Iroquois & only know about the passage from DeChamplain where his Native allies in the Ticonderoga War force fed human meat to their Iroquois captives as a method of torture.
@@MrChristianDT Check the digitized versions of the Jesuit Relations as well as the Sir William Johnson papers. There will be loads in there just for starters. There's tons of accounts. Charles Langlade (who was half Odawa) and his warriors ritually ate Memiskia's heart at Pickawillany in 1753. I'll see what I have in my files that are specifically Longhouse.
OMG I loved the Wendigo in the Material World piece! That caught me off guard and I almost choke on my food! That was awesome! HAHAHA
Pre-Premiere comment: I hope the Roanoke video's referenced. I still don't get why nobody's talked about that
The restrictions on the viewing these men remind me of the myth of Cupid and Psyche. She married Cupid but was not able to view him and got punished when she tries to. Really interesting connection.
I thought of that, too
That’s what I thought too
This might be my new favorite lore lodge intro😂
@31:00 That puts on a whole new meaning to "Would you still love me even if I was a worm?"
“Licking the marrow out of its own leg bones” this sounds like a folksy way to say someone is very self-absorbed and frankly I hope it catches on
My Dad has a camp on the Juanita River and got a book about the Natives from the area. They had a chief they called "The Great One." He was described as irregularly tall and had legs as thick as trees.
I grew up in the san juaquin valley as well as in the lake tahoe areas. This monster as well as the predator like thing which was in fact invisible would cast a slight shadow despite its saran wrap like appearance within the Yosemite woods, were both completely terrifying boogey mem for me as a kid. Although im now 48, i still 100% remember the things ive seen, with great clarity. Scary stuff lol. Thanks for the story, it was really great!!!
I also grew up around the Reno Tahoe area and had several encounters with Sasquatch and this predator like being I’ve never met anyone else that’s seen this being before it was the most terrifying experience of my life and I saw it 3 times now
If a video makes an “allways sunny” reference, it will get my like
Awesome as always thanks guys ❤
Always look forward to the dog appearances
GREAT JOB ON THE INFORMATION AND STORIES.
That Bigfoot in the thumbnail looks like some gangsta just dissed his flygirl.
Please more Aiden Devito
I'm always blown away by the amount of research these youtubers do and how intelligent they are, yet they always get pronunciations wrong. Wiyot is pronounced wee-ot. Cmon lore lodge!
The It’s Always Sunny parody makes me love this channel all the more
25:12 as a Scottish gal, outlander is the worst
"nom nom, some Wagyu kids " 😭 SIR.
9 seconds in but that intro is brilliant 🤣🤣