When telling Phil how to turn in Phil and Stacy's video, your statement, "The whole truck is the front wheel of the vehicle" Is hands down the BEST statement ever on towing a 5th wheel. Great videos from both channels!
I had always had trailers and fifth wheels pulled by pick ups. I have now switched to a pusher class A. The ride is so much better and I call the windshield my IMAX going down the road.
I've had them both including tow behind, class a for me all the way. Getting ready to hit the road in April in a 35 foot class a. Hope to see you both on the road some day. You are all stand up folks.
Appreciate the comparison, we have been debating between the Class A and 5th wheel. I think the pros and cons you highlighted are helpful to our decision. For us, so far, the Class A is the way to go.
I give you guys credit for hauling or driving those large rigs. I personally downsized because of the stress. We went from a total length of about 50ft (with truck) to a 27 foot class C. Feel so much more at ease when moving about.
The 2 rigs look like they were meant to be together! Beautiful! You probably looked like a traveling family. We had considered a Class A but we also need to haul a motorcycle. We also want the space for fulltime RV'ing. Good to know you had the same concerns and decided on the 5th wheel. Thanks!
I have been towing a trailer of one kind or another for over 40 years since I was about 15 starting with a pickup and horse trailer to a Kenworth and fuel tankers and I would never switch. Great videos from both couples. It’s good to see a couple of guys from the worlds greatest Navy hanging together.
We had a Class A for 14 years. Great for sandwich, while going down the road, and easy rest stop nap, and go. Also great to pull our 2 door Jeep Wrangler, and the Jeep was great for navigating around towns, and trails. But, the 5th Wheel, has so much more room, as the driving seat takes up 5 feet of living space. In my opinion driving a HD pickup truck is so much easier, than driving a big Class A. Also easier to park the 5ther in smaller camping sites, than the Class A. You also have to take into consideration, the depreciation curve of a $250k Class A and what it takes to keep it maintained
We've had both currently we have a newmar dutch star diesel pusher 38 foot with 4 slides. in order to make it more affordable we purchased it used 4 years ago and it's a 2005, it has 75,000 miles and runs like a dream, we bought it from a private party and paid $60K. We much prefer the class A but if you need a toy hauler the 5th wheel is the way to go.
Been watching all you guys for a bit over a year. As nice as the 5th wheel is and the extra room the pusher makes it rough. I’m still young enough I need my toys. I’m sitting in Quartzite right now, thanks for helping me wind down. Be safe Dale from Oregon.
Loved this comparison. I've been watching you guys and Phil and Stacy for 18 months and I never miss a week. I've learned a lot from both couples. Love you guys.
We’re on our 3rd 5th wheel and had two bumper pulls. I’m 62 now and n decent shape. But when I can’t climb in and out of the bed of the truck we will probably get a class c. Our pension won’t cover a class a. Not a complaint, we are blessed. Great video. I like both channels.
Xlnt commentaries. We currently have a 1985 Yellowstone 5th wheel which we got our feet wet from tent camping. We love the 5th wheel aspect as they have a ton more room. We have not got behind the wheel in a class A. From what we have experienced with "old yeller" 5th wheels are easy to tow. We really enjoyed your comments and got a kick out of watching Phil sweat driving your rig.
You guys and Phil and Stacy seem to have similar personalities so it’s really cool to see you guys hanging out. Good way to help each other’s channels grow as well!
I went from a class A diesel to an Airstream trailer. I loved driving the class A, but the upkeep took the fun out of it. $500 oil changes, $275 air filter, tires are $3500 for a set. Too many systems, all needing service. It just was too big for me at this time in my life. Today the Airstream is perfect. If I won the lottery, I'd get another class A, but high end like a Bluebird or Eagle. (and let someone else maintain it.)
I just got home from two weeks traveling with my dad in his Tiffin; OKC, Red Bay AL (Tiffin's manufacturer), home to Richmond VA. He spent three weeks in the hospital with double pneumonia and needed help with heavy lifting tear down and set up, had some repair work done a Red Bay. I really enjoyed driving his class A.
This is from a family that's had both. As a guy it's always fun playing with trucks and driving a Class A is that little boy in all of us driving around that big truck. Being in back of a class a for your wife works at times but you can't sleep on the bed because the engine is right underneath you and if you try earplugs then you can't hear and in an emergency not good. And on the couch you roll off. That's why we have a 35ft 5th wheel when you full time you can't beat the room . And for you guys with the office and Lucille you made the right choice. Love your videos I have made reservations on your reviews and your travels. Hope to see you out on the road. Safe Traveling
Two of my favorite channels coming together! We love our Class A but if I were younger I’d want your 5th wheel! At our age...late 50’s...we need the convenience of having everything right behind us lol especially when the hubby drinks tea!!! Every 30 minutes he makes his way to the half bath....good thing I’m the driver 😊😊 Glad you got to experience driving a class A! When we first got our diesel pusher in 2012 after having a 32’ bumper pull for 5 years, the first thing I did while driving was sing, “I’m on the top of the world, lookin down on creation” lol Have a class A gasser now and love it!!! I can do the maintenance unlike the DP. Haven’t dealt with big mountains yet so we’ll see 😊 Great video as usual!
Innovative idea to change spaces and get a first hand experience with a different type of RV!! Lots of good insight shared by two experienced RV couples. Informative and entertaining! Two thumbs up!
One of my first jobs involved driving a class a pulling a 30 ft stacker trailer. I had driven a 20 ft class c with a 26 ft box trailer so it was bigger but not exponentially. There were 2 of us and because we were driving someone else's coach we stayed out of the bedroom. We changed drivers on the fly and always had snacks or meals or drinks at hand and a bathroom. And enough fuel to go 1800 miles nonstop. If you want to cover ground especially with kids or others with small bladders go A or even C. You can pull a small truck with the bike in the bed.
I just moved up to a 42 foot fifth wheel from a 30 foot bumper pull. We went to Michigan to get it. Drove it 2500 miles in 3 and a half days. I cannot believe how well it tows compared to a travel trailer. I used to drive school bus also. I would take the fifth wheel any day. So much space. I would never look down on anyone for choosing different than me of course. But wow other than the higher revs with tow haul on can hardly tell it’s there.
You guys rocked it!!! We are still in a fifth wheel as well. I've owned both but as we age we wouldn't mind being in a Class A. I drove a 45' tour bus but don't want that much length due to some campsite restrictions. As a former trucker driver our 5ther is not hard for me. We did divorce the dolly as Phil would say. It was not an issue, but could be since we were 10' over length in Texas. (75' in all) We love your channel and how down to earth y'all are. Continued prayers for Tara's health. Safe and happy travels. Gator
We are doing exactly like your video, except we are going from a Class A to a 5th wheel. Love your videos and my wife and I have learned a lot from your experience. Love You two! Keep the videos coming. Stay Safe
I thought you two were bad by yourselves! You bring in your doppelgängers and take over the town. The fellas looked liked like two kids in a $400k candy shop. Of course my fav spot wudda been on the couch with my two fav RUclips ladies. 😉 I hear ya on the Class A vs. TH choice. Y’all have made it your own and I believe influenced many others to do the same. Can’t leave Lucille behind. 😬 I’ve been over it in my head for a while. It’s a tough decision. Class A, toad, cruiser or Truck, TH, cruiser inside. Y’all have done great with yours. Thanks guys. Troy
We started looking at a 5th wheel, but much smaller than yours. As we had a current Chevy 1500 we stayed looking at the small ones we could tow. Ended up buying a small class A Entegra and tow a Mini cooper. All the points you brought up were very similar to the discussions we has, but we were on a smaller scale as we are not full time or close to it. Probably the biggest deciding factor for us was not wanting a 3500 truck to drive around in when you get to your destination. The mini is small, possibly a Jeep would have been a better choice, but we love Mini's, this is our 4th. Its a great comparison you guys did with Phil and Stacy. i love their channel too. Very well done.
Great pair of videos. We have been towing pull behind RVs for over 30 years, the smallest was a 26', and the other (3) were 30'. We have used several brands of hitches, and been using a Hensley Arrow to tow the last 2 rigs. In 39k miles of towing we have experienced NO sway. As far as we can tell, the Hensley makes a pull behind trailer tow much like a 5th wheel. We have to swing wide on corners, because the trailer cuts inside the track of the tow vehicle.But we do not mind that one bit!
Yes love our fifth wheel also. Thought about motor home when we finally get to go full time..... but we are gonna stick with 5th wheel. Love the space we have 👍
Sounded like a lot of structural creaking and flexing which is par for the course with production coaches until you get into a prevost or a monocoque type frame. There is also something to be said for the utility of having the F-series as a separate mode of transportation.
As I said on Phil & Stacey’s channel, thank you so much for doing this! My wife and I are still in the research phase and while I love the “towing this beast” video, you made it look so easy because you have the experience. Seeing Phil drive it for the first time was incredibly valuable! Thank you all for being willing to allow each other to drive your own homes around! That took some serious trust! Also, you confirmed a lot of our reservations about the Class A when you talked about the way the rig rocked. As much as it may be possible to go into the back of a Class A while you’re moving, the reality is whether it is safe, and that’s not something I’m willing to risk. Having “the Shark” (our bike) with us is a must, so we’re in the same place you guys are and this just reinforces it. Ever thought about starting a 5th wheel driving school? 😂
This video was well done. Chad great job on driving that class A. I will go look and check out their channel. They have a dog too it looks cute like Daisy. It was cute I noticed that their rig was the same colors as you have for paint. I loved both of your rigs. Nice job on filming. Thank you Chad and Tara.
After looking at both videos I have to agree that class A is easier to maneuver and set up but you can’t beat the fifth wheel space. I can’t wait to get one. I just need Chad to come to AZ and teach me 😂
Another awesome video! Newmar makes the Canyon Star, a front-engine diesel (Fred), toy hauler. The model 3947 has a 10 foot garage that would haul Lucille and convert to an office, but the combined cargo (cargo + toad) is kinda puny. Thanks for the video.
You Guys are Great. I watch both your channels and really enjoy your posts. I've driven both Class A with 30ft trailer and 5th wheel behind my Cummins Truck. Each has plus & minus features. I also ride an MC and love taking it with me, so 5th wheel is my choice for now. We have Labs, so the garage also works at the dog house- woof woof!
We waited 10yrs to get and RV. Our original plan was to get a 5th wheel. But the cost of a truck to tow out weighed getting a 5th wheel. So we just bought a Class A and absolutely HATE it. Now its for sale. Wife gets monition sick and refuses to ride in it. Plus they are not safe to drive over 55mph. Good video showing the difference.
LOL...Phil’s photobomb @12:46. Thank you for this comparison video. We’re looking for a retirement rig and plan on taking our motorcycles. This is good information.
I've had both and each served its purpose in the time & style we were RV-n. As you said, it's best to try out both and see which one has more pluses for you. We went back to a trailer 4+ years ago and currently like it a lot. 2-5 years from now... ??????
What a fun couple of videos, yours and YMRV!! I was watching Phil try to do the calculation about which way to turn the truck steering wheel to make the 5th wheel go the correct way during backup. Not sure if you have heard this one ... grab the bottom of the steering wheel. If you want the 5th wheel to go right, push your hand to the right. push left for left. Simple.
So cool that you are both friends with Phil and Stacy. We love their channel. Like them, we drive a class A diesel pusher. I have a fear of backing trailers. Long story, but it's from early in my Army career.
That was a great comparison video, I have Owned and drove semi's for 15 years but sold out to be home and now I drive a 40 ft straight and 60ft articulated city bus. I think you are 100% right when you say that Ruby is quieter, has a nicer ride and sits higher and has more features on travel day. We are considering towing our Momentum with a single axle, double bunk semi. That way the passenger can stand up, lay down, stretch, and most important make a sandwich 🥪!! It might be something to consider or research if you ever changed tow vehicles. They have air ride, sit high, lots of power and control. Cheers
Great video from two of the coolest couples. Your rigs are almost the same color. Love Phil in the front seat while you guys were talking at the end. Two Navy guys, love it !!
Love Both y'alls channels. Boys with Toys! They need to make more toy hauler class A. Love my 40 ft Newmar. Drives as smooth as my gmc Denali. But, I do want more room. Great videos.
This CG vet wanted to hear some deep water sailor stories. Great collaboration between the officer and the enlisted. I watched Phil and Stacy’s video yesterday. I got some real deciding to do. I retire from trucking in a few years and doing my research. Seeing how much the class A rocks back and forth has me wondering if a super C is a bit more stable. We’ll be pulling a small car and possibly a smaller motorcycle mounted on the back. If we went the 5th wheel route I would not want to have go to a dual wheel truck. Can you mount a 650-850cc bike on the back of non toy hauler? I mentioned to Phil and Stacy that you nailed it on your instructions for turning and backing an articulated vehicle. Thanks for the collaboration. You guys rock! Safe travels.
We had a class A and we loved it. But like you we wanted a toy hauler for being able take toys with us. We loved out f350 and then the f550 and now the F450 (2017). But the HDT is the way you guys need to go. A semi let's you sit up high and see over everything. Better brakes and you never worry about having enough torque. You also get to keep your toy hauler and have room for a smart car on the rear bed of the HDT!
So I’ve been watching your channel now for a little while and I really enjoy your videos. But your last video RV swap without watching the whole thing yet proposed a question in my own mind. If you’re out exploring in an RV, and that’s what you’re gonna do for the remainder of your life, you have to ask yourself one question, what’s the hurry. Whether or not you have to pull over and use the restroom, make a cuppa coffee, you take a nap, what’s the hurry? Enjoy your journey and I’ll enjoy your video. Have fun.
I think you guys pioneered the cross over videos. I really do enjoy them! Can you hunt down other RUclipsrs and do more cross overs? Do a cross over with Big Truck Big RV and compare and contrast the F350 vs F450! Also a life style cross over with LoLoHo, Everlanders, KYD, Russos ... Etc.
With your wanting to have Lucille with you, I think you made the best possible choice and decision. The only other option would have been a large car trailer behind you with Lucille on the front and a smaller vehicle on the rear, but that adds a trailer to your full time mix that you don't need to have a hassle with. Hope to see more fun videos like this between the 4 of you!!
We're pulling a 28-foot bumper pull trailer with our truck these days and I do really enjoy the technical challenges of pulling a trailer, backing it into a spot, etc. But, I do think if we ever decide to go full time, it would probably be in a diesel Class A with a toad pull behind. Great video - Phil and Stacy did an excellent job on their companion video as well.
I've been watching your vids from the beginning and slowly catching up. Initially I was thinking a travel trailer with my 2020 RAM 1500 that I spec'd for towing. 3.92 rear end and tow package. While watching Hangingwiththehanks and your channel, I've realized that I should be looking at a 5th wheel/toy hauler. Recently I've started to think about a Class A. By the time I replace my truck and get the 5th wheel/toy hauler, I'd be in the price range of a Class A. Watching this video only makes my thought process a little simpler. Class A advantages: 1. The vehicle you tow can be a small efficient vehicle, a jeep or a even my Ram 1500. 2. The engine in the back works well for me. I'm already dealing with hearing issues. 3. The ability to just pullover and go to the bathroom, grab a drink, make food, or take a nap without getting out really suits me. There are some downsides, but at this point I believe I'm sold.
We have a travel trailer, and drove our parents class c. One thing we didn't like was all the noise coming from the pots and pans as we drove. But it's something to thing about if we didn't want to tow any more.
Hello to my two favorite RV travel RUclipsrs. I have a video suggestion when the four of you are back together. I think both of the gentlemen are former military, I think both Navy. I think many of your followers would like to hear a camp fireside chat on both your individual military careers. Both formal and fun and serious stories. And maybe talk about how each other’s military positions interacted and relied on each jobs in terms on how our countries military performs as required and expected. Just a thought. Thank you both for your service. ❤️🇺🇸👍.
Great video. You hit the nail on the head. It's about priorities, and likes vs dislikes. There is no one size fits all or one type fits all RV. I could be wrong but I think Newmar came out with a front engine diesel coach.
We fulltimed in 2 different Class A's for 6 1/2 years and have now been in a 5th wheel for almost 2 years. Travel days Class A hands down for us and while siting we prefer the 5th wheel even though the last Class A was very homey. And you are correct, even now that we are used to setup and take down on travel days it was faster in he Class A but we are not in a race. Fun to watch both of your video's.
Super-C with stacker is awesome. Becomes the mothership and you can decide what to put in stacker: Moto’s, car, home office, gym, etc. The real truck chassis is the key so mechanicals can be sorted by most truck professionals. Plus the rated tow capacity is crazy high.
It's good to see you back in Franklin. I planned a trip to Franklin last October but had an RV issue and had to cancel. Chad seemed like he enjoyed driving Phil & Stacey's rig more than Phil enjoyed pulling the fifth wheel. I would like to upgrade to a fifth wheel, but the wife wants a class A. Thanks for sharing! Steve
I started out in a 36' Monaco pusher in 2010 and moved to a 5th wheel in 2013, and now our GD Solitude for 2020 and on. The pusher was nice for the long drives, loved that air ride! Yet for me it was another motor, brakes and expensive tires to maintain in addition to my truck. I agree 5th wheels have a LOT more living space compared to the class A. Just living space along for the same length is night and day different.
Newmar makes a front engine diesel Class A toyhauler, its the Canyon Star 3927. If you ever wanted to switch to a Class A, it would probably fit what you were asking for the best.
I could tell where you all were in the first 5 seconds. Glad to see you were back in town. That parking lot is great for moving the equipment around in. Hope to run into you at one of the breweries sometime when you are in town and things are back to normal.
You both do such a wonderful job with your channel. I also visited the “a more information” section about you two and your rig, motorcycle, truck, etc and it had lots of beneficial information. Very informative, very thorough and very delightful. Fantastic channel. Thank you for all of your hard work and for all of the entertainment. Happy New Year.
My opinion is, the diesel pusher is better for getting where you are going. The 5th wheel is better once you get there! We have a diesel pusher and pull a trailer when we take the motorcycles or golf cart. We are not full-timers. I started out shopping for a 5th wheel toy hauler because I already had my diesel dually. But fell in love with the ride and convinces of the diesel pusher class A. Seems like everything is a trade-off!
This was great. I love their channel as well. I have to be honest, when I saw the title I thought, “What happened to Lucille?” Then I relaxed when you mentioned the swap for the experience. Haha. I jump to conclusions. Love your videos.
I’m in the same predicament you were in. I’m retiring in a year and going to full time RV with my wife and Harley Ultra Classic. We are planning on a 40’ class A with a hydralift installed on the back. Then we can still flat tow a smaller vehicle for everyday driving and still have the bike (required).
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When telling Phil how to turn in Phil and Stacy's video, your statement, "The whole truck is the front wheel of the vehicle" Is hands down the BEST statement ever on towing a 5th wheel. Great videos from both channels!
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I had always had trailers and fifth wheels pulled by pick ups. I have now switched to a pusher class A. The ride is so much better and I call the windshield my IMAX going down the road.
Who in the world would dislike this video??? Smh... Love you guys and little Miss Daisy!!!
And before it was even possible to watch the video lol
I agree I love both couples. Watch. Both all the time.
My grandmother always told myself if you don’t have something nice to say then just move on.. I am old school. I love my old school life...😘
Those are some great friends too have. Love watching you guys and be safe out there.
I've had them both including tow behind, class a for me all the way. Getting ready to hit the road in April in a 35 foot class a. Hope to see you both on the road some day. You are all stand up folks.
Appreciate the comparison, we have been debating between the Class A and 5th wheel. I think the pros and cons you highlighted are helpful to our decision. For us, so far, the Class A is the way to go.
I give you guys credit for hauling or driving those large rigs. I personally downsized because of the stress. We went from a total length of about 50ft (with truck) to a 27 foot class C. Feel so much more at ease when moving about.
How is that stressful ? ...
The 2 rigs look like they were meant to be together! Beautiful! You probably looked like a traveling family.
We had considered a Class A but we also need to haul a motorcycle. We also want the space for fulltime RV'ing. Good to know you had the same concerns and decided on the 5th wheel. Thanks!
I have been towing a trailer of one kind or another for over 40 years since I was about 15 starting with a pickup and horse trailer to a Kenworth and fuel tankers and I would never switch. Great videos from both couples. It’s good to see a couple of guys from the worlds greatest Navy hanging together.
We had a Class A for 14 years. Great for sandwich, while going down the road, and easy rest stop nap, and go. Also great to pull our 2 door Jeep Wrangler, and the Jeep was great for navigating around towns, and trails. But, the 5th Wheel, has so much more room, as the driving seat takes up 5 feet of living space.
In my opinion driving a HD pickup truck is so much easier, than driving a big Class A. Also easier to park the 5ther in smaller camping sites, than the Class A. You also have to take into consideration, the depreciation curve of a $250k Class A and what it takes to keep it maintained
We've had both currently we have a newmar dutch star diesel pusher 38 foot with 4 slides. in order to make it more affordable we purchased it used 4 years ago and it's a 2005, it has 75,000 miles and runs like a dream, we bought it from a private party and paid $60K. We much prefer the class A but if you need a toy hauler the 5th wheel is the way to go.
Been watching all you guys for a bit over a year. As nice as the 5th wheel is and the extra room the pusher makes it rough. I’m still young enough I need my toys. I’m sitting in Quartzite right now, thanks for helping me wind down. Be safe Dale from Oregon.
Loved this comparison. I've been watching you guys and Phil and Stacy for 18 months and I never miss a week. I've learned a lot from both couples. Love you guys.
The larger 45' coaches ride much better and have tons more space. Great job guys!
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love the RV reference. i think i have watched that movie a hundred times! i like this comparison video.
We’re on our 3rd 5th wheel and had two bumper pulls. I’m 62 now and n decent shape. But when I can’t climb in and out of the bed of the truck we will probably get a class c. Our pension won’t cover a class a. Not a complaint, we are blessed. Great video. I like both channels.
Xlnt commentaries.
We currently have a 1985 Yellowstone 5th wheel which we got our feet wet from tent camping. We love the 5th wheel aspect as they have a ton more room.
We have not got behind the wheel in a class A.
From what we have experienced with "old yeller" 5th wheels are easy to tow.
We really enjoyed your comments and got a kick out of watching Phil sweat driving your rig.
That was a pretty neat video swapping out. That helps a person like myself who doesn’t know what he wants yet. So much choices..
You guys and Phil and Stacy seem to have similar personalities so it’s really cool to see you guys hanging out. Good way to help each other’s channels grow as well!
I went from a class A diesel to an Airstream trailer. I loved driving the class A, but the upkeep took the fun out of it. $500 oil changes, $275 air filter, tires are $3500 for a set. Too many systems, all needing service. It just was too big for me at this time in my life. Today the Airstream is perfect. If I won the lottery, I'd get another class A, but high end like a Bluebird or Eagle. (and let someone else maintain it.)
I just got home from two weeks traveling with my dad in his Tiffin; OKC, Red Bay AL (Tiffin's manufacturer), home to Richmond VA. He spent three weeks in the hospital with double pneumonia and needed help with heavy lifting tear down and set up, had some repair work done a Red Bay. I really enjoyed driving his class A.
This is from a family that's had both. As a guy it's always fun playing with trucks and driving a Class A is that little boy in all of us driving around that big truck. Being in back of a class a for your wife works at times but you can't sleep on the bed because the engine is right underneath you and if you try earplugs then you can't hear and in an emergency not good. And on the couch you roll off. That's why we have a 35ft 5th wheel when you full time you can't beat the room . And for you guys with the office and Lucille you made the right choice. Love your videos I have made reservations on your reviews and your travels. Hope to see you out on the road. Safe Traveling
I like the color coordinated rigs. Air ride, air brakes, and you didn’t try to see if the horn toots. Great job and thank you for sharing.
Love how both your 5th wheel and their Class A color scheme matched
Great to see the two power couples of RV youtubing together.
Two of my favorite channels coming together! We love our Class A but if I were younger I’d want your 5th wheel! At our age...late 50’s...we need the convenience of having everything right behind us lol especially when the hubby drinks tea!!! Every 30 minutes he makes his way to the half bath....good thing I’m the driver 😊😊 Glad you got to experience driving a class A! When we first got our diesel pusher in 2012 after having a 32’ bumper pull for 5 years, the first thing I did while driving was sing, “I’m on the top of the world, lookin down on creation” lol Have a class A gasser now and love it!!! I can do the maintenance unlike the DP. Haven’t dealt with big mountains yet so we’ll see 😊 Great video as usual!
Innovative idea to change spaces and get a first hand experience with a different type of RV!! Lots of good insight shared by two experienced RV couples. Informative and entertaining! Two thumbs up!
One of my first jobs involved driving a class a pulling a 30 ft stacker trailer. I had driven a 20 ft class c with a 26 ft box trailer so it was bigger but not exponentially.
There were 2 of us and because we were driving someone else's coach we stayed out of the bedroom.
We changed drivers on the fly and always had snacks or meals or drinks at hand and a bathroom. And enough fuel to go 1800 miles nonstop.
If you want to cover ground especially with kids or others with small bladders go A or even C. You can pull a small truck with the bike in the bed.
I just moved up to a 42 foot fifth wheel from a 30 foot bumper pull. We went to Michigan to get it. Drove it 2500 miles in 3 and a half days. I cannot believe how well it tows compared to a travel trailer. I used to drive school bus also. I would take the fifth wheel any day. So much space. I would never look down on anyone for choosing different than me of course. But wow other than the higher revs with tow haul on can hardly tell it’s there.
You guys rocked it!!! We are still in a fifth wheel as well. I've owned both but as we age we wouldn't mind being in a Class A. I drove a 45' tour bus but don't want that much length due to some campsite restrictions. As a former trucker driver our 5ther is not hard for me. We did divorce the dolly as Phil would say. It was not an issue, but could be since we were 10' over length in Texas. (75' in all)
We love your channel and how down to earth y'all are. Continued prayers for Tara's health. Safe and happy travels.
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It’s very cool you guys got to try to each others rigs out. Hope you all had fun.
We are doing exactly like your video, except we are going from a Class A to a 5th wheel. Love your videos and my wife and I have learned a lot from your experience. Love You two! Keep the videos coming. Stay Safe
I thought you two were bad by yourselves! You bring in your doppelgängers and take over the town. The fellas looked liked like two kids in a $400k candy shop. Of course my fav spot wudda been on the couch with my two fav RUclips ladies. 😉 I hear ya on the Class A vs. TH choice. Y’all have made it your own and I believe influenced many others to do the same. Can’t leave Lucille behind. 😬 I’ve been over it in my head for a while. It’s a tough decision. Class A, toad, cruiser or Truck, TH, cruiser inside. Y’all have done great with yours. Thanks guys. Troy
We started looking at a 5th wheel, but much smaller than yours. As we had a current Chevy 1500 we stayed looking at the small ones we could tow. Ended up buying a small class A Entegra and tow a Mini cooper. All the points you brought up were very similar to the discussions we has, but we were on a smaller scale as we are not full time or close to it. Probably the biggest deciding factor for us was not wanting a 3500 truck to drive around in when you get to your destination. The mini is small, possibly a Jeep would have been a better choice, but we love Mini's, this is our 4th. Its a great comparison you guys did with Phil and Stacy. i love their channel too. Very well done.
That A has a fairly short wheel base, easier/Tighter corners but more trail swing. Coolness!
Hi Guys It is great to see a video with two channels working together. Great fun and good info for people looking to decide on what to buy.
Great pair of videos. We have been towing pull behind RVs for over 30
years, the smallest was a 26', and the other (3) were 30'. We have used
several brands of hitches, and been using a Hensley Arrow to tow the
last 2 rigs. In 39k miles of towing we have experienced NO sway. As far
as we can tell, the Hensley makes a pull behind trailer tow much like a
5th wheel. We have to swing wide on corners, because the trailer cuts
inside the track of the tow vehicle.But we do not mind that one bit!
Yes love our fifth wheel also. Thought about motor home when we finally get to go full time..... but we are gonna stick with 5th wheel. Love the space we have 👍
Sounded like a lot of structural creaking and flexing which is par for the course with production coaches until you get into a prevost or a monocoque type frame. There is also something to be said for the utility of having the F-series as a separate mode of transportation.
As I said on Phil & Stacey’s channel, thank you so much for doing this! My wife and I are still in the research phase and while I love the “towing this beast” video, you made it look so easy because you have the experience. Seeing Phil drive it for the first time was incredibly valuable!
Thank you all for being willing to allow each other to drive your own homes around! That took some serious trust!
Also, you confirmed a lot of our reservations about the Class A when you talked about the way the rig rocked. As much as it may be possible to go into the back of a Class A while you’re moving, the reality is whether it is safe, and that’s not something I’m willing to risk.
Having “the Shark” (our bike) with us is a must, so we’re in the same place you guys are and this just reinforces it.
Ever thought about starting a 5th wheel driving school? 😂
This video was well done. Chad great job on driving that class A. I will go look and check out their channel. They have a dog too it looks cute like Daisy. It was cute I noticed that their rig was the same colors as you have for paint. I loved both of your rigs. Nice job on filming. Thank you Chad and Tara.
Wonderfull you two share with our other great RV fulltimers! Phil and Stacy are awesome!
Yes they are! 😊
After looking at both videos I have to agree that class A is easier to maneuver and set up but you can’t beat the fifth wheel space. I can’t wait to get one. I just need Chad to come to AZ and teach me 😂
These cross over videos yall do are awesome! Im surprised I hadn't seen these two yet.
of all the channels i watch, the two of you are my top favorite channels. Gotta love Ol Phil, that poor boy is always in "time out". lol
🤣 thanks!
Great video! Never drove a large Class A, yet, but we love our Grand Design 5th wheel! We enjoy your channel... blessing!
Yeah! 2 of my favorite RUclipsrs in one video! ❤️❤️❤️
Love it when you four get together!
Another awesome video!
Newmar makes the Canyon Star, a front-engine diesel (Fred), toy hauler. The model 3947 has a 10 foot garage that would haul Lucille and convert to an office, but the combined cargo (cargo + toad) is kinda puny. Thanks for the video.
You Guys are Great. I watch both your channels and really enjoy your posts. I've driven both Class A with 30ft trailer and 5th wheel behind my Cummins Truck. Each has plus & minus features. I also ride an MC and love taking it with me, so 5th wheel is my choice for now. We have Labs, so the garage also works at the dog house- woof woof!
LOL. Love seeing Phil peeping from his windshield at 12:52! :)
you should look into an HDT. very smooth, you can lay down in the back if you need too, etc. but you can still keep your momentum... win/win
We waited 10yrs to get and RV. Our original plan was to get a 5th wheel. But the cost of a truck to tow out weighed getting a 5th wheel. So we just bought a Class A and absolutely HATE it. Now its for sale. Wife gets monition sick and refuses to ride in it. Plus they are not safe to drive over 55mph. Good video showing the difference.
LOL...Phil’s photobomb @12:46. Thank you for this comparison video. We’re looking for a retirement rig and plan on taking our motorcycles. This is good information.
I've had both and each served its purpose in the time & style we were RV-n. As you said, it's best to try out both and see which one has more pluses for you. We went back to a trailer 4+ years ago and currently like it a lot. 2-5 years from now... ??????
What a fun couple of videos, yours and YMRV!! I was watching Phil try to do the calculation about which way to turn the truck steering wheel to make the 5th wheel go the correct way during backup. Not sure if you have heard this one ... grab the bottom of the steering wheel. If you want the 5th wheel to go right, push your hand to the right. push left for left. Simple.
So cool that you are both friends with Phil and Stacy. We love their channel. Like them, we drive a class A diesel pusher. I have a fear of backing trailers. Long story, but it's from early in my Army career.
NICE! Two of my favorite channels. Glad you all got to experience that.
That was a great comparison video, I have Owned and drove semi's for 15 years but sold out to be home and now I drive a 40 ft straight and 60ft articulated city bus. I think you are 100% right when you say that Ruby is quieter, has a nicer ride and sits higher and has more features on travel day. We are considering towing our Momentum with a single axle, double bunk semi. That way the passenger can stand up, lay down, stretch, and most important make a sandwich 🥪!! It might be something to consider or research if you ever changed tow vehicles. They have air ride, sit high, lots of power and control. Cheers
Too big for me and places I want to go. I just sold my 5th wheel and I’m building out a camper van. I’m stoked!
Great video from two of the coolest couples. Your rigs are almost the same color. Love Phil in the front seat while you guys were talking at the end. Two Navy guys, love it !!
Love Both y'alls channels. Boys with Toys! They need to make more toy hauler class A. Love my 40 ft Newmar. Drives as smooth as my gmc Denali. But, I do want more room. Great videos.
This CG vet wanted to hear some deep water sailor stories. Great collaboration between the officer and the enlisted. I watched Phil and Stacy’s video yesterday. I got some real deciding to do. I retire from trucking in a few years and doing my research. Seeing how much the class A rocks back and forth has me wondering if a super C is a bit more stable. We’ll be pulling a small car and possibly a smaller motorcycle mounted on the back. If we went the 5th wheel route I would not want to have go to a dual wheel truck. Can you mount a 650-850cc bike on the back of non toy hauler?
I mentioned to Phil and Stacy that you nailed it on your instructions for turning and backing an articulated vehicle. Thanks for the collaboration. You guys rock! Safe travels.
Many fivers have hitches, but it will depend on the frame and what kind of lift. We've seen bike racks and mopeds...
We had a class A and we loved it. But like you we wanted a toy hauler for being able take toys with us. We loved out f350 and then the f550 and now the F450 (2017). But the HDT is the way you guys need to go. A semi let's you sit up high and see over everything. Better brakes and you never worry about having enough torque. You also get to keep your toy hauler and have room for a smart car on the rear bed of the HDT!
So I’ve been watching your channel now for a little while and I really enjoy your videos. But your last video RV swap without watching the whole thing yet proposed a question in my own mind. If you’re out exploring in an RV, and that’s what you’re gonna do for the remainder of your life, you have to ask yourself one question, what’s the hurry. Whether or not you have to pull over and use the restroom, make a cuppa coffee, you take a nap, what’s the hurry? Enjoy your journey and I’ll enjoy your video. Have fun.
I think you guys pioneered the cross over videos. I really do enjoy them! Can you hunt down other RUclipsrs and do more cross overs? Do a cross over with Big Truck Big RV and compare and contrast the F350 vs F450! Also a life style cross over with LoLoHo, Everlanders, KYD, Russos ... Etc.
With your wanting to have Lucille with you, I think you made the best possible choice and decision. The only other option would have been a large car trailer behind you with Lucille on the front and a smaller vehicle on the rear, but that adds a trailer to your full time mix that you don't need to have a hassle with. Hope to see more fun videos like this between the 4 of you!!
We're pulling a 28-foot bumper pull trailer with our truck these days and I do really enjoy the technical challenges of pulling a trailer, backing it into a spot, etc. But, I do think if we ever decide to go full time, it would probably be in a diesel Class A with a toad pull behind. Great video - Phil and Stacy did an excellent job on their companion video as well.
Great video. Watched the one with Phil and Stacy to. Glad to see ya again.
Great video. Fun to watch both yours as well as Phill and Stacy’s. Two of my favorite RV RUclips couples! ❤️
This is so funny.. I knew this was Phil and Stacy just from the rig and cars! Love Em!!
I've been watching your vids from the beginning and slowly catching up. Initially I was thinking a travel trailer with my 2020 RAM 1500 that I spec'd for towing. 3.92 rear end and tow package. While watching Hangingwiththehanks and your channel, I've realized that I should be looking at a 5th wheel/toy hauler. Recently I've started to think about a Class A. By the time I replace my truck and get the 5th wheel/toy hauler, I'd be in the price range of a Class A. Watching this video only makes my thought process a little simpler. Class A advantages: 1. The vehicle you tow can be a small efficient vehicle, a jeep or a even my Ram 1500. 2. The engine in the back works well for me. I'm already dealing with hearing issues. 3. The ability to just pullover and go to the bathroom, grab a drink, make food, or take a nap without getting out really suits me. There are some downsides, but at this point I believe I'm sold.
I have a 1976 and 1978 class a GMC Motorhome. They all have there advantages. Love the channel
We have a travel trailer, and drove our parents class c. One thing we didn't like was all the noise coming from the pots and pans as we drove. But it's something to thing about if we didn't want to tow any more.
Hello to my two favorite RV travel RUclipsrs. I have a video suggestion when the four of you are back together. I think both of the gentlemen are former military, I think both Navy. I think many of your followers would like to hear a camp fireside chat on both your individual military careers. Both formal and fun and serious stories. And maybe talk about how each other’s military positions interacted and relied on each jobs in terms on how our countries military performs as required and expected. Just a thought. Thank you both for your service. ❤️🇺🇸👍.
Great video. You hit the nail on the head. It's about priorities, and likes vs dislikes. There is no one size fits all or one type fits all RV. I could be wrong but I think Newmar came out with a front engine diesel coach.
💜💜💜 just sold our Class A then sold for a 5th wheel last year. It is a different trip for sure. I do miss my Class A. 🇨🇦 keep well and stay safe
We fulltimed in 2 different Class A's for 6 1/2 years and have now been in a 5th wheel for almost 2 years. Travel days Class A hands down for us and while siting we prefer the 5th wheel even though the last Class A was very homey. And you are correct, even now that we are used to setup and take down on travel days it was faster in he Class A but we are not in a race. Fun to watch both of your video's.
Super-C with stacker is awesome. Becomes the mothership and you can decide what to put in stacker: Moto’s, car, home office, gym, etc. The real truck chassis is the key so mechanicals can be sorted by most truck professionals. Plus the rated tow capacity is crazy high.
Great video! We recently started watching, thanks for sharing with us! From Oregon, see you on the road!
Renegade Super C classic toy hauler! Truck style driving, Diesel, 8x8, customizable, 45 ft
It's good to see you back in Franklin. I planned a trip to Franklin last October but had an RV issue and had to cancel. Chad seemed like he enjoyed driving Phil & Stacey's rig more than Phil enjoyed pulling the fifth wheel. I would like to upgrade to a fifth wheel, but the wife wants a class A. Thanks for sharing! Steve
I started out in a 36' Monaco pusher in 2010 and moved to a 5th wheel in 2013, and now our GD Solitude for 2020 and on. The pusher was nice for the long drives, loved that air ride! Yet for me it was another motor, brakes and expensive tires to maintain in addition to my truck. I agree 5th wheels have a LOT more living space compared to the class A. Just living space along for the same length is night and day different.
Both of you couples are awesome! I enjoy both of y'alls videos
I love how your rigs are color coordinated.
Newmar makes a front engine diesel Class A toyhauler, its the Canyon Star 3927. If you ever wanted to switch to a Class A, it would probably fit what you were asking for the best.
I could tell where you all were in the first 5 seconds. Glad to see you were back in town. That parking lot is great for moving the equipment around in. Hope to run into you at one of the breweries sometime when you are in town and things are back to normal.
Please do more of these "Shared Content" vids with Phil & Stacy! Well done!
YES!! It is fun to see all my favorite Navy people doing these!
#GoNavy
Great video!! Thanks for getting together with another of my favorite nomads for a collab!!
You both do such a wonderful job with your channel. I also visited the “a more information” section about you two and your rig, motorcycle, truck, etc and it had lots of beneficial information. Very informative, very thorough and very delightful. Fantastic channel. Thank you for all of your hard work and for all of the entertainment. Happy New Year.
My opinion is, the diesel pusher is better for getting where you are going. The 5th wheel is better once you get there!
We have a diesel pusher and pull a trailer when we take the motorcycles or golf cart. We are not full-timers. I started out shopping for a 5th wheel toy hauler because I already had my diesel dually. But fell in love with the ride and convinces of the diesel pusher class A. Seems like everything is a trade-off!
I got a kenworth t300 with a sleeper on it to pull my 5th wheel. Best of both world's
This was great. I love their channel as well. I have to be honest, when I saw the title I thought, “What happened to Lucille?” Then I relaxed when you mentioned the swap for the experience. Haha. I jump to conclusions. Love your videos.
Lucile is safe and sound! 😊. ruclips.net/video/sDEL4Ty950Q/видео.html 😉
Love both your channels, and always look forward to the content! It's uncanny how your color/graphics match Phil and Stacy's. ;-)
Their rigs looked great parked next to each other. Almost like they planned it that way.
I’m in the same predicament you were in. I’m retiring in a year and going to full time RV with my wife and Harley Ultra Classic. We are planning on a 40’ class A with a hydralift installed on the back. Then we can still flat tow a smaller vehicle for everyday driving and still have the bike (required).
That's how we roll.
AWESOME VIDEOS!!WE LOVE WATCHING BOTH CHANNELS!!
Enjoyed this video! We love our Class A RV. Now we have to go and watch Phil and Stacey.
Loved the video with my 2 favorite couples on the move!
I hadn’t realized how similar your paint schemes are until now. Thanks for the comparison.
Great to hear your opinion on the difference. We have a Mobile Suite and considering going to a super C.