Cybertruck Off Road Mode Tested VS Rivian R1T VS Raptor R At Scotty's Farm!
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- Our good friend Scotty has an incredible playground for grown-ups. We take the opportunity to compare the Cybertruck's new Off-Road Mode with the Rivian's off-road capability, and use a brand new Raptor R as the benchmark.
The results surprised us!
We instrumented each vehicle with a MoTeC logger consisting of some basic sensors such as vertical G force and GPS data, so there is some nerding going on in this video as well.
In the end, we discovered some weak links with each vehicle - some we can fix, and some we can't!
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What wheel/tire combo do you have on the rivian? It looks amazing!
Thanks so much! These are our brand new MPP Mega Terra wheels on both the Rivian and the Cybertruck! The tires are 275/65/20 BFG K03's
More info here:
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Maybe best to have that rear cover up for stuff like that.
@@MountainPassPerformance Nice ! They looks great! Any info on how those tires wheels affect performance range on road?
That was some sick driving, love the close chase.
Likewise, awesome pictures from Laguna!!
Man, the vid from the rivian with the cybertruck following is awesome. Looks like being chased by a spaceship. Let the haters do what they do. I'm loving it more and more
yeah I love it too
Exactly…
The manual says to remove those front and rear aero pieces I believe before going off-roading. The Cybertruck looks awesome.
We removed the fronts... Missed the rears! And yeah, the Cybertruck in the field looked very Dystopian. It was an awesome backdrop
lol!!!!!!
Doing the hard labor testing I see guys. That looked like way too much fun! Never doubt MPP commitment to full send.
It's hard work but someone has to do it!
This was amazing!! Full send 👌
It was a surprisingly good time!!
I love how I was able to follow most of your technical talk because of my mountain bike background even though I know next to nothing about rally cars or whatever you call this insane type of driving haha. Unbelievable shots, so cool!
It would have been really nice to see each driven over a set course for time and include the Raptor R and SxS for comparison. A detail of the various damage and causes or fixes would be great when they get repaired.
Sick video, don’t know why so many people hate on EVs. They are badass.
People feel threatened I guess.
Very expensive to repair
It's turned political. This year media went wild telling liberals that Elon is a Nazi while simultaneously telling conservatives that Elon is the reason you won't be able to buy your gas/diesel vehicle soon.
really doing it! Rivian looks amazing with that wheel and tire combo
Lesson here is if you're going to rally the CT, open the Tonneau cover
Indeed
Not an EV guy at all but I appreciate the proper flogging of these things.
Now more Kels!!
Kels parts just arrived, stay tuned!
I think sand mode on the Rivian turns off the traction control more then the other modes if not all the way off. At least that what I felt with mine.
We'll give that a try next time, hopefully it's better!
The CyberBeast literally looks like it's out of Jurassic Park chasing you like that @13:40 it's insane footage!
Those bumper shots of the cybertruck from the rivian were epic!
"You are Flying"........nice👍👍👍
Too much fun😊 What a fantastic playground to test the limits!
More videos...please🎉
That chase scene near the end is how I now expect all
movies to to film and their chase scenes 😁
AWSOME! Cybertruck looks like a freekin' UFO chasing the Rivian !
Rally mode on the Rivian would have been better than drift. In my experience drift mode just wants to get the rear end kicked out then help you maintain a drift, whereas rally mode will give you power and let you steer with the throttle.
He said in the comments already they tried both and rally was actually worse
Rally mode is what Rivian designed for the kind of driving you were doing. My experience with Rally mode differs from yours. It powers through turns much better than in Drift.
@johnkiefer1314 how fast in mph were you going and what surface?
Rally mode and drift mode both feel fine at slower speeds and without a lot of sideways action. As soon as the trucks were really crossed up at high speed the truck just shut off torque. I'm sure Rivian programmed it this way for safety, which makes a lot of sense - it's just not fun!
Rivian, FIX IT! I can't wait to do this with my R2/R3X
I'm excited to see Scotty in that new horror movie, SMILE 2.
😂
From the video, the Cybertruck looks easy to drive and more stable than the Rivian.😊 Thanks from Thailand🎉
What a great video. Hadn't realized that Rivian software was so limiting, but now we know.
This is really cool! I could see this in a movie somewhere the Raptor R being chased as the hero and Cybertruck being the Villian! Some sort of dystopian fantasy of Gasoline outlaws!
The cybertruck windscreen is very hard to chip or break because of the angle. However some examples have cracked due to stress. Amazing to see them hustle round the course like that.😊
Awesome video! Thanks guys.
And so where was Raptor? Why is it in the title, i don’t see anything besides the first 4 seconds
It was in every clip in spirit
@@MountainPassPerformance , I thought cars don't have it. But I guess we are talking about the Raptor, must be different. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It’s always a party 🎉 on this channel!
Super fun and great place! Thanks.
Scotty's Farm is a destination for fun.
That camera shot from rear left panel side of the CyberTruck, gave me Interstellar vibes. LOL!
Great video! Loved the footage. Made me very jealous of the rally track you have :D
Looks hella fun!
Insanely Lucky you get to be friends with Adam Sandler.
🤣Scotty is a cool dude there's no doubt
Great content!
So the Raptor R is just sitting out this comparison? Also I appreciate Scotty maintaining his power stance throughout!
That was awesome great video
Great stuff! Where can we find the raptor video?
Driving scenes
1:52
6:08
12:42
So the Ford is the only one that didn’t break. Hmmmm. Not surprised.
This is what it a about. Glad to see it be a truck!
Did you guys happen to try Rally mode on the Rivian I haven't had it shutting power like that for me. Sand mode is also know to give full power.
We did try Drift and Rally mode with stability fully off. As soon as it was very sideways or had high G forces - no torque!
@@MountainPassPerformance Did you try soft sand mode?
@@MountainPassPerformance Talk to Rivian as that is not my experience at all.
@@Eric-xp1klNot mine either. Only too much power if anything in rally mode coming out of corners.
@@Eric-xp1kl So just text our guide then? 😆 From the contacts we do have, this sounds like normal behaviour when the vehicle is in extreme situations. If you have Rivian engineering contacts, feel free to email us with details as we would be happy to do whatever is possible to keep this truck from cutting power.
Love the video, new subscriber here. Just got the beast, I didn't know you can drive the CT like that, still learning. Awesome video mate!
Nice!!! Test that cybertruck!
The video we’ve all been waiting for!
Would it be possible to make a quick video going over the damage the Cybertruck suffered? It sounds like stronger control arms may be a worthwhile aftermarket upgrade. Thanks! this was an awesome video!
Remember what their company does ;)
Thank you Scotty and Sash
The rivian sounds terrible in the cabin vs the cybertruck. Sounds like a e-formula vs a ford ranger
Badass, need racing like this
why didnt you film the raptor too?! i came here for that
Good video!
16:00 lol money shot
Planning to post pictures of the bent suspension components?
This some real CT testing
subjective feelings are OK. But timing of a lap/stint, including the raptor, would have given a more objective comparison of the trucks' capabilities.
Also, should specify what versions of the trucks are there, as there is more than one spec
We used the speeds over the jump as well as the speeds through the whoops/g-out as a fair benchmark.
The Rivian and Cybertruck both did the jump at 60-61km/h. Scotty doesn't go faster than 62-64km/h with his Raptor on the jump, and the Raptor is bottoming quite hard at that speed.
Through the whoops the Raptor is able to go around ~5-8km/h faster with the same bottoming loads - but as you can see from the first clip in the video it's very violent and sends the truck rolling sideways as it bounces through the air. The Cybertruck was the smoothest but both the Cybertruck and Rivian bottom out harder and earlier in the largest compression compared to the Raptor.
@@MountainPassPerformanceWhich spec CyberTruck did you test? Dual or tri-motor? Not a small detail…
Very interesting, and great video! Hope to see more comparisons like this soon!
Haven't had the chance to push a Rivian, but have seen some other videos where the Rivian's back end does seem to bounce a lot. No one really seems to say much about it and was thinking maybe it was camera perspective versus an actual issue, but guess it is. Also I'm sure the Rivian can improve the power, or at least improve how much power in turns you can give it via OTA, so hope they do!
Was it a dual motor or tri motor cybertruck?
That was with old software. They fixed that in large part if not completely. It’s funny they show their run in sand mode going over a regular hard dirt and grass road. Why would anybody ever do that?
@@jeargunky2210 It's always worth testing a car's different preset modes on a run. Can sometimes surprise you how the automaker sets it up for other circumstances can actually work well in other terrains or tracks.
I've done the same thing with clapped out $500 cars and trucks over the years, its too much fun. Gotta say the gold medal award has to go to the 91 suzuki side kick, and silver medal to the 96 dakota lol both had more air time than a boeing 737 before they broke.
Wow that looks so much fun! How are you guys going to fix the damage?
Agree! Sad, Rivian needs to update the power slide capability, esp in modes where you’d rely on it to hit a turn predictably. Making power delivery counter intuitive to put down - tbh, is NOT the safe play inc not fun or adventurous!
Hmmm, where is the video of the Raptor R on this course?
thats's some sic action!
Appreciate the video guys and your opinions regarding both vehicles. Huge fan of the Cybertruck and will be buying it. I’m not planning on doing anything near as extreme as what you put it through so I’m sure that it will hold up quite well.
Will you guys please drive a Cybertruck RWD on the same course, once the RWD is available? Maybe next year in 2025, we'll see.
Hell ya, cybertruck for the win
Was the Rivian on the new suspension software that was just released? I heard it makes a massive difference.
It was not! Just updated though and its very nice to drive on the road now. Big improvements.
probably should have had that cover rolled up when offroading like that. it just popped out of the track!
That part you broke off costs $15 for a new one and is pretty easy to install.
amazing video, thanks for sharing the specific settings you're driving these with!
Dang!!!!!
Outstanding footage,
Exactly what I want to see (about the CT)
Great recording, thank you
In the Rivian I wonder if rally mode would make a difference? Others used snow mode for a different experience too. The modes really do change the performance and feel of the throttle and suspension. I think it would be interesting to run same course in each of the different mode programs.
Lucky bastards, I'm so jealous
but what about the Raptor R?
Rivian wheels look awesome btw
This is all fixable by upgrading CT’s suspension, which I’m sure Unplugged and Mountain Pass can do. We need Baja CT
Is that the cyberbeast or awd? Also what rims are on the CT? They look nice
Dual Motor! The wheels are our new Mega Terra design - more details here: www.mountainpassperformance.com/product/mpp-mega-terra-cybertruck/
The cybertruck bed cover was deployed and the rivians was not. Not a fair damage report unless both are stowed.
I mean the Rivian one brakes while driving on pavement so...
13:41 my nightmare is to be chased by a terminator driving a cybertruck.🤖🚗
First video I have seen of really sending any of the EV trucks.
Was this a gen 1 or gen 2 R1T?
Gen 1! We just missed the Gen 2... Our truck was one of the first Canadian deliveries that occurred only a few months before Gen 2 came out!
@@MountainPassPerformanceAwesome. I’ve got a gen 1, also. Amazing the improvements and upgrades they put into gen 2. Starting with the over 1000HP, quarter mile in 10.5 version. I’m actually more interested in some of the other less flashy improvements. Hey, that course looks great - he should rent out track time!
Smiles Per KilloWatthour😂
Raptor video separate?
yeah really it was a boring video tbh! 21 minutes long and no raptor
@@carholic-sz3qv I actually thought video was an awesome comparison, they drove those super hard.
How much would the repairs cost for the cybertruck?
how does the Rivian have more ground clearance, you set the Cybertruck that way?
Where is the Ford MachE Rally? You guys should contact Kyle from Out of Spec. You're having too much fun.
I love my Cyberbeast, honestly the best truck I’ve ever owned.
nope
@@carholic-sz3qvactually, yep. I have a dual motor CT and I can vouch for it being the best truck I've ever owned. It's not even close
@@carholic-sz3qv Yes actually. I also have a Cyberbeast. Never going back to gas.
I have the dual motor and also a YP, 3LR and S and it is the most fun, the most comfortable and my favorite vehicle ever but a landslide. I do get tired of all the attention though!
I have a model y performance. I’ve owned tons of cars and it’s the best car I’ve ever owned. Never going back to gas.
What’s with the weird echo sound. Some good mics would help!
Impressive from the Cybertruck!!
Would love to see an EV that can do real off-roading things built on a smaller platform! i.e. Can fit down narrower “Jeep” trails…
Eventually we will have EVs available in all sizes and types, like we do with internal combustion vehicles.
Mr bobble head!
🤔 so the wheels and tires aren't stock
I've owned 13 trucks and cars. My CT has by far the best-damped suspension, ever. Potholes, speedbumps, expansion joints, bad road... it is impossible to fluster. It just soaks it up and returns. Zero drama.
Anyway, in this video and another I watched the Rivian was def NOT better on the jumps. Watch the tail always kicking up big time. Not enough rebound damping. 9:35
stop lying to yourself stop lying to people please lol!!!! not all trucks have air suspensions or are made for the same purpose! there is also a reason why ford didnt use air suspsension on the Raptor because those wont last and wont provide the excellent level of offroad and high speeds and also durability. air suspensions are for paved roads
@@Wi2Low Agreed. The rivian bottomed out in the rear. CT did not.
@@carholic-sz3qvThat air suspension CT was going over 100 on an off-road course. What are you talking about? And how do you know it won’t last? Crystal ball, tea leaves?
@@Dave-ei7kkhe’s just a hater. It’s what they do.
As opposed to? The raptor r? Not even close.
what I like, no, what I love is that, because it is quite & there is no roaring engine noice, you hear how all the rocks & dusts are hitintg to external panels of the truck & hear electric motor noices, it gives you a cosmic vibes! feels & sounds like you're in spaceship re-entering in atmosphere or flying with an airplane trough heavy clouds with high cruising speed!
this is just dream come true for me personally, I want cybertruck
Excellent video and thanks for being completely honest with your feedback. We will share this with our subscribers. (PS: Tesla recommends removing the wheel aero covers and front fascia wheel fairings before off-roading. ;). Keep up the great work!
why arent other vehicles removing any stuff?! WTF!!!
Thanks! The rear wheel fairings are not removable. The manual notes to remove only the fronts along with the wheel aero covers. We checked the manual to be sure after all of the internet comments!
Tesla will need to figure out how to imporve the tano cover so it can handel off road.
Yeah good luck getting a replacement control arm or ball joint for the POS.
13:34 😎😎 start off the fun here
Finding the weak link. New suspension product for those going hard. And the cyber truck will get better
nope
Steering systems on the cyber truck are awesome. Full send, yeah!!!
I’ve had a cyber beast for a few weeks now and can confidently say all of the negative talking points are for views. It rocks and is so comfy
Did I miss something? Like no footage of the Raptor R doing the same thing.
Okay fine, I'll order a Cybertruck