It's a bit weird that Haaland isn't in there, though. With all due to respect to Mane, who was undoubtedly one of the best players in the world *while at Liverpool*, I think his subsequent seasons with Bayern and even Al-Nassr have shown that he benefited massively from Liverpool's hyper-attacking system, which was almost custom-built for the inside forwards. When you compare him with people like Agüero, who I think we can all agree is one of the best strikers in Premier League history, and Haaland, who casually breaks records left, right, and centre, he just doesn't hold his own. I think for the combined XI, they should've just gone with a Klopp-style front 3, with Salah and Agüero being inside forwards and Haaland in the middle.
Also, Bernardo not being in this team feels off. I know that, if this were an actual team, you'd have to put either Rodri or Fernandinho in there to cover for the attacking trio and the rest of the midfield, but symbolically, there is absolutely no way that Rodri makes the team and Bernardo doesn't.
@@soumyomandal8661 Agüero would make an excellent inside forward. Let's not forget that, among other things, he was an excellent dribbler and passer. Just because he never played as an inside forward doesn't mean he couldn't.
Genuinely think the Pep v Klopp debate is a difficult one. I don't think Klopp would have won as much as Pep with Pep's teams, but equally i don't think Pep could have done anything close to what Klopp has done with Mainz, Dortmund or Liverpool.
Klopp would of probably won more tbh. Look at the level he got Liverpool with nowhere near the money, pep is world class but he couldn't do what klopp has, on the other hand klopp still hits that level with 115 advantages and an endless fund of money. If the roles were reversed we'd have had no title challenge in 6 years.
Yeah it is such an interesting debate. I kind of agree. I feel if you have top quality technical players then pep is the better manager. He would make them even better but he demands a certain level of technical quality. That is why likes of kalvin philips didn't work for him. However if you have above average or very good players who are not top top players then klopp is a better manager for them. He would get the most out of limited resources. By no means gini wijnaldum, Henderson and fabinho individually are world class players. I would also put Robertson in there. However klopp's style is more based on intensity and counter pressing which needs willing runners. If you are a good footballer and not that great technically and you have that intensity and physicality then that kind of player can thrive more under klopp. Some Eg kalvin philips could have been a better fit for klopp Trent I feel would have gone even a level up with pep. He wouldn't have had to defend much. Likewise I don't think the likes of grealish would do that well under klopp And someone like Henderson Gini or Robertson would not do that good under pep. In a way they both are at the perfect clubs.
but klopp didnt win more he only one 1 prem title in almost 10 years at the club so please state facts and not if buts and maybes. klopp doesnt have an era. this is peps era and before that is was fergies era.
@@RojoBoxeador I think to optimise Salah and Mane you need a false 9 though so I don’t think Haaland would work as well as people think Edit: I would love to have seen it though because that does sound terrifying
As a Liverpool fan i absolutely love the mutual respect with Man City - hard to not wax lyrical about how good they've been over the last 6ish years. Only questions for me in this team are the CB along with Van Dijk and I'd have put Bernardo Silva in the midfield no doubt. I also think Cancelo deserved a mention at LB considering how phenomenal he was in 21/22
@@Ibrahim-nf6yhcancelo cost city more than a lot of people think, also Robertson from the time he signed up until you won the league was the best in the world?
Buvey is right with pep and salah, if pep was in a final and had a choice of silva or mo he would pick silva. It’s different players for different systems. Salah is still a better winger tho
Theres a lot of instances with that. I mean Ederson is a prime example. All teams in the world bar City would prefer Alisson, but Ederson's better for Pep.
imo, i dotnt think pep would drop alisson for ederson. He is no ederson but his ball playing abilityis very good,just a step below ederson and he is the better keeper.@@EA.....
Pep V Klopp I have heard people say Klopp will win just as Pep did if he manages City as compared to Pep with Liverpool or maybe Dortmund. Both managers have different styles and need certain players to make this successful. I don't think Klopp could transform Foden, Rodri, Lahm, etc. as Pep did. Neither could Pep have enough patience as Klopp to nurture some of the lads under him for them to evolve. These two have tactical brilliance and try hard to accommodate the right players to fit in. They are both different yet Phenomenal. Two of the greatest ever.
I can't imagine that Chelsea have ever stopped kicking themselves for letting Salah and De Bruyne go. The quality of those 2 playing together would be unreal. Arguably, the 2 best players in the world right now, and Chelsea could've had both at the same time.
They dont, there's no guarantee that if they both stayed at Chelsea, they would have become as big as they are now. Also back then Chelsea had a stacked squad with all the best youngsters in Europe, they just couldnt keep them all and see those talents come to waste.
Why on earth would Chelsea be kicking themselves about De bruyne?? He acted like a kid and was extremely lazy and grumpy, the players didn’t want him around let alone the club
I would have picked Bernardo over David, and probably Klopp over Guardiola based on the overall tasks he has completed. Definitely shouldnt be able to say Liverpool are the titans of the last 7 years with City (with faaarrr less resources) Great team and 6 city players feels fair!
Peak David Silva clears Bernardo Silva. And Pep is better than Klopp if you count overall tasks Pep has won two trebles and multiple times more league titles
@@Deathmare235 I think i disagree. They have a strong establishment and excellent management but the funding isnt spectacular, i'd call it impressive about their ability to compete at the top
@bertrandtheApostle7343 U spoke my mind man..... I don't think he knew Klopp at Dortmund, cos every team in the world wanted to sing and did signed a player from Dortmund
@@Vahapetautus Always popped up with a goal outside the box when he was needed. Only midfielder that consistently put up numbers. Only one that could unlock a tight defence by beating a few players. In that 17/18 season him behind salah mane firmino was a joke of an attacking force.
Criminal he wasn't mentioned. Unfortunately I think the fact city won the treble right after he left hurts his legacy. For me hes better than robbo on his day but not Trent or walker
His peak was way too short. He wasn't seen as one of the best in the world in his first season at City (19/20). 20/21 he started to be seen as one of the best. 21/22 was his peak. 22/23 he got dropped and loaned to Bayern halfway through the season. I loved Cancelo when he was at his best but he genuinely doesn't have the longevity of Trent and Robertson. I'd also say those two were just as good during their peak. Robertson in particular was the best of the 3 defensively during his peak so there's no way Cancelo gets ahead of him (and LB was where Cancelo played his best football under Pep imo).
as a liverpool fan i think its best combined 11 of players played under pep & klopp..i agree with the panel on each players position and but i think both the managers would win everything with this team and do a great job as both have their own traits and we cant compare them with each other .. they are both great managers...
Comparing Klopp and Pep isn't appropriate now. I'd love to see Klopp in the club with no financial troubles and Pep managing clubs that undergo crisis like Mainz, Dortmund, and Liverpool did in the past. Provided that is the case, I can surely predict that Klopp > Pep
not having david silva is crazy, one of the best creative midfields we have seen in the prem in the last couple years, and its hard to admit that as a utd fan
@@GermanChickenwing in the 3 seasons he played under pep, Kompany played 62 games in all comps, the premier League, champs league & all cups. In Dias first season under Pep he played in 53 games in all competitions, in 3 seasons Dias has 136 games under pep, and a key player in the treble winning side. I'm not saying Kompany wasn't a great player because he was, if the question was "City's greatest XI" then there is a debate, since it's who's in the ultimate Pep/ Klopp team it's Dias since he's achieved something Kompany never did
I'm surprised they didn't talk about Pep being the superior tactician. He literally invented the "advanced centre back" (John Stones role) mid way through the season and won a treble with it
@@emmanuelkoya4529 I think klopp brings the most out of what he has but pep can create the best strategy and tactics. with the exact lineups they want i think pep would beat klopp. but given a ragtag team i think klopp beats pep.
Mince. He actually didn't invent it. Go back to Rinus Michels at Ajax. Ruud Krol used to play in defence and midfield. That was back in the 1970s. As for Beckenbauer, even Bobby Charlton said that he was a midfielder which obviously belied his sweeper position.
I personally think Klopp is a better manager than Guardiola, as much as i hate Liverpool they've done well the last 6-7 years and barely spending any money. Guardiola had one of, if not the best team in the history of football with barca (who have been accused of bribing refs) didn't win the CL with Bayern. Yes he's dominated the league with City recently but they do have 115 FFP charges against them
Liverpool have spent over £800M since Klopps 1st full season (16/17). In what world is that "barely spending any money". They haven't spent as much as city, but it's not like they are some mid table championship side with their spending.
accused and proven innocent, so stop being biased because he clapped United in 2 Ucl finals. Better manager is the one that win the most, that innovates the most that adapts the most. Pep changed his football, Klopp is unable to play anything than hard rock. Pep is the reason for the best team in the history, he did not has had it. He assembled it and made it that way.
The toughest choice to be made was always going to be between Pep/Klopp. Theres nothing to separate them really. But I agree..for that XI, Pep would get the most out of them. He would absolutely rule the league with that XI, no doubt. (Just a thought) Can Pep go invincible with that XI though??
Fair play, this LFC fan is a decent lad. Mach from Redmen is always a good LFC fan because of him just being so measured and fair, so other LFC fans got a bar to beat, but this guy did well fair play to him. Look at Buvey being all serious for once and not trying to wind everyone up by saying Joe Hart was better than Alisson.
i just don't get football fans. they are saying that trent isn't n.1 rb in the world because he can't defend, but Roberto Carlos couldn't defend as well
B. Silva > D. Silva. During Pep Guardiola's era, Bernardo has surpassed David significantly. He boasts the record for the most games played under Guardiola, has clinched multiple Premier League titles, secured a Champions League victory, and even earned a place in the top 10 for the Ballon d'Or on two occasions. There is no debate
Lots of people are very dismissive of Trent, with the right midfield cover you can't leave him out. Go fernandino and rodri to give cover, Trent and KDB would rinse everyone on transition
I'm going Allison in goal, Robertson left back just because Cancelo was at City for so little time, Van Dijk Kompany and Walker to complete the back line, midfield has to be De Bruyne, Rodri, and probably Bernardo Silva though I'm torn over David Silva. Front three for me has to be Mane, Aguero, and Salah
Surely players would rather play for Klopp than Guardiola. And look at the number of huge money signings that have ended up as bench-warmers under Pep.
Brilliant team.! Honestly the best 11 and sensible people having good conversation.. Absolutely loved it. I do get it why no 9 Augero or Haland but Firmino is surely underrated. He has won it all, done is all and kept those 2 on top together (Salah Mane), without Firmino it was impossible for Klopp to do “Gegan press”
Pep Guardiola is the best manager I’ve seen in football. There’s a reason he’s never been sacked. He’s won everything there is to win multiple times, he plays scintillating football, he’s a relentless winner. Though I’ve never supported any of his teams but I’ve great admiration for the football his teams produce.
What kind of true City fan wouldn’t name David Silva - el mago - in any combined 11 involving Man City PL players🤦🏻? He is first name in any list , pure class
Pretty much agree with this list. However, would personally go for ruben dias and Haaland over Kompany and Aguero respectively. I feel like, they were towards the tail end of their career under pep and some of it does come from nostalgia bias. Like Haaland has literally broken the permier league goal scoring record in his first season, won a treble and is also doing well this season. It is more than likely that he will surpass agueros legacy at city in the coming years .
I think most Liverpool & City fans will respectively agree this is an ABSOLUTE sublime XI during the Klopp & Pep era. We will not agree however on one coach over the other. Not taking anything from the absolute brilliance of Pep and his legacy, but what would Pep or Klopp be without each other? My argument to why I would choose Klopp would come down to investments. Klopp has done MORE for Liverpool with allot less ability to spend than Pep at City over the last 8 years and without scrutiny.
What would they be without each other? Lol Pep was a treble winner before Klopp even had a top 4 finish in the Bundesliga. Klopp is the one benefitting from this "rivalry" as he is getting overrated. 7 trophies in 8 seasons isn't anything special. And I'm not a pep fan.
Sterling not even getting a shout is actually crazy.. a player with over 200 goal contributions in the premier league, played for both clubs and was super influential for both, reaching a world class level at City, adapting to a whole new system and way of playing. In terms of longevity and consistency, there's no better LW in the Klopp/Pep era
and sterling had a chance at staying at liverpool and pep couldent off thought that much off him consid ring he was still in his peak years. so no he isnt
The entire Pep vs Klopp argument comes down to this. Yes there is a major difference in money. But it can’t be ignored. Pep is an amazing tactician, the greatest manager of all time probably, but Pep goes to a dominant team with money and gets success. What Klopp has done not just with less money but his ability to transform clubs is what sets him apart. Barca, Munich, were massive before Pep and after. City was successful before Pep but obviously he brought even more. But City will continue to be dominant long after he leaves unless they get punished by the FA (they do have 115 charges pending)….What Klopp did at Mainz long term is built a successful academy, built a great managerial program and yes he got relegated but Mainz should be a team in the second division anyways. And they aren’t.. people forget or don’t realize that he literally saved Dortmund who were on the brink of bankruptcy and won trophies and while LFC were massive before Klopp, as a LFC fan, since day 1 the club feels completely different under him then Previous managers. In the end Pep brings success through spending and brining in amazing players. Klopp brings success by transforming the entire club. End of debate.
It's so refreshing to have guests being reasonable and actually trying to make a good XI, not just a bunch of horrible homer shouts
This Liverpool fan needs to come on again, he's unbias and well measured.. actually offers strong footballing opinipns
It’s easier with city and Liverpool cuz there’s so many options
Couldn’t agree more
Don't be too fooled, Buvey loves to wind people up when he's in the mood for it
Compared to a certain retired league one striker/bodybuilder.
Most balanced combined 11 conversation I have seen - liverpool fan
It's a bit weird that Haaland isn't in there, though. With all due to respect to Mane, who was undoubtedly one of the best players in the world *while at Liverpool*, I think his subsequent seasons with Bayern and even Al-Nassr have shown that he benefited massively from Liverpool's hyper-attacking system, which was almost custom-built for the inside forwards. When you compare him with people like Agüero, who I think we can all agree is one of the best strikers in Premier League history, and Haaland, who casually breaks records left, right, and centre, he just doesn't hold his own.
I think for the combined XI, they should've just gone with a Klopp-style front 3, with Salah and Agüero being inside forwards and Haaland in the middle.
Also, Bernardo not being in this team feels off. I know that, if this were an actual team, you'd have to put either Rodri or Fernandinho in there to cover for the attacking trio and the rest of the midfield, but symbolically, there is absolutely no way that Rodri makes the team and Bernardo doesn't.
@@maxkho00 doesn’t make any sense, neither haaland nor aguero are inside forwards. Mane makes absolute sense
@@soumyomandal8661 Agüero would make an excellent inside forward. Let's not forget that, among other things, he was an excellent dribbler and passer. Just because he never played as an inside forward doesn't mean he couldn't.
@@maxkho00 I love aguero. I am sure he would have. But let’s just go with what we have seen, we can’t bypass Mane just because of some speculation
That is probobly the best combined XI I have seen so far that I agree with. Spot on
Surly Lewa upfront
Respect Buvey for the honesty. It’s about time Alisson is the best period
He's certainly not
DDG was the best in the world for 3 years Allison ain’t even near Dave never mind Cech and Peter schmiskes and vds
@@Chipsandgravy202its definitely clear youre a ManU fan kid
Allison absolutely rank today
@@ramsdale4 >Ramsdale
LOL
Actually a good XI for once
ye
But cancelo
Terrible XI. Haaland should already be there instead of Aguero, Cancelo instead of Robertson and Ruben Dias instead of Kompany.
@@bazingacurta2567behave yourself
@@alecmicah Cancelo over who?
Genuinely think the Pep v Klopp debate is a difficult one. I don't think Klopp would have won as much as Pep with Pep's teams, but equally i don't think Pep could have done anything close to what Klopp has done with Mainz, Dortmund or Liverpool.
Klopp would of probably won more tbh. Look at the level he got Liverpool with nowhere near the money, pep is world class but he couldn't do what klopp has, on the other hand klopp still hits that level with 115 advantages and an endless fund of money. If the roles were reversed we'd have had no title challenge in 6 years.
Yeah it is such an interesting debate. I kind of agree. I feel if you have top quality technical players then pep is the better manager. He would make them even better but he demands a certain level of technical quality. That is why likes of kalvin philips didn't work for him.
However if you have above average or very good players who are not top top players then klopp is a better manager for them. He would get the most out of limited resources. By no means gini wijnaldum, Henderson and fabinho individually are world class players. I would also put Robertson in there. However klopp's style is more based on intensity and counter pressing which needs willing runners. If you are a good footballer and not that great technically and you have that intensity and physicality then that kind of player can thrive more under klopp.
Some Eg
kalvin philips could have been a better fit for klopp
Trent I feel would have gone even a level up with pep. He wouldn't have had to defend much.
Likewise I don't think the likes of grealish would do that well under klopp
And someone like Henderson Gini or Robertson would not do that good under pep.
In a way they both are at the perfect clubs.
@@ishraqsyed8999 i kinda agree with most of what youre saying but can't say I agree with your take on Robertson tbh
but klopp didnt win more he only one 1 prem title in almost 10 years at the club so please state facts and not if buts and maybes. klopp doesnt have an era. this is peps era and before that is was fergies era.
We never know
If we’re talking only Pep era, I would have Dias and Bernardo over Kompany and David Silva. For me, the latter two were at their best before Pep
Completely agreed. I'd even go as far as saying Sergio shouldn't be there; mane in CF and sterling on the left (under pep!!)
Haaland over Sterling though. Salah - Haaland - Mane. That’s terrifying
most real man city fan LOOOL. Man put haaland on LW@@RojoBoxeador
@@RojoBoxeador I think to optimise Salah and Mane you need a false 9 though so I don’t think Haaland would work as well as people think
Edit: I would love to have seen it though because that does sound terrifying
They were still in pep era and were still amazing, them being good before pep has nothing to do with it
As a Liverpool fan i absolutely love the mutual respect with Man City - hard to not wax lyrical about how good they've been over the last 6ish years. Only questions for me in this team are the CB along with Van Dijk and I'd have put Bernardo Silva in the midfield no doubt. I also think Cancelo deserved a mention at LB considering how phenomenal he was in 21/22
City fan here and Cancelo doesn’t come close to Robertson personally
If you love it so much why dont you marry it heh
@@22slz33Why? Cuz Robertson has been poor defensively for us for the last 2 years 😂
@@Ibrahim-nf6yhcancelo cost city more than a lot of people think, also Robertson from the time he signed up until you won the league was the best in the world?
@@Ibrahim-nf6yhhes been so good this season until the injury he offers more forawrd that what he concedes
Enjoyed this, looking forward to the game!
Hello Buvey. How tall are you? Brain called you "a unit". For him to say that, you must be massive.
Good to see youre becoming sensible
Good picks today. Wouldn’t change a single player…honourable mention for Bernardo Silva, unlucky to miss out
@@miamitten1123 Buvey's probably 6'3-6'4
@@Zavstarnah this is a one off
the girl has the best ball knowledge out of all of them, you should definitely bring her back for more of these.
She said that Salah is overall better premier league winner than Ronaldo, but except of that she got most things correct if you ask me
@@zzzannin. emphasis on premier league, forgetting everything ronaldo did when he left
@@zzzannin.she was right 😂 Salah has double the stats of Ronaldo in the prem
@@Vahapetautus he also played double the time there after also being in his prime
@@zzzannin. wheres ronaldo worldcup?
Buvey is right with pep and salah, if pep was in a final and had a choice of silva or mo he would pick silva. It’s different players for different systems. Salah is still a better winger tho
asked him have u?
Theres a lot of instances with that. I mean Ederson is a prime example. All teams in the world bar City would prefer Alisson, but Ederson's better for Pep.
imo, i dotnt think pep would drop alisson for ederson. He is no ederson but his ball playing abilityis very good,just a step below ederson and he is the better keeper.@@EA.....
@user-hv9xk4mz4s comparing mahrez to salah??? if pep has salah, silva plays in midfield.
@@moulinyan lol no
David silva is like Messi in that stats don't capture his brilliance. glad he was included!!
Sorry but wtf is that comparison. Messi has the stats too
honestly so refreshing to actually see unbiased and educated suggestions
Pep V Klopp
I have heard people say Klopp will win just as Pep did if he manages City as compared to Pep with Liverpool or maybe Dortmund. Both managers have different styles and need certain players to make this successful. I don't think Klopp could transform Foden, Rodri, Lahm, etc. as Pep did. Neither could Pep have enough patience as Klopp to nurture some of the lads under him for them to evolve. These two have tactical brilliance and try hard to accommodate the right players to fit in.
They are both different yet Phenomenal. Two of the greatest ever.
Smoking rocks if you think Klopp won’t replicate similar results with this city boys .😂 you’re smoking something really strong
maybe you misunderstood what i tried to imply@@curtiszyr
I can't imagine that Chelsea have ever stopped kicking themselves for letting Salah and De Bruyne go. The quality of those 2 playing together would be unreal. Arguably, the 2 best players in the world right now, and Chelsea could've had both at the same time.
They dont, there's no guarantee that if they both stayed at Chelsea, they would have become as big as they are now. Also back then Chelsea had a stacked squad with all the best youngsters in Europe, they just couldnt keep them all and see those talents come to waste.
yeah but there's no guaranteed they would developed to the levels they are at if they stayed
Why on earth would Chelsea be kicking themselves about De bruyne?? He acted like a kid and was extremely lazy and grumpy, the players didn’t want him around let alone the club
I think Mourinho got rid of them both
@@punkask3619 and for good reason
I would have picked Bernardo over David, and probably Klopp over Guardiola based on the overall tasks he has completed. Definitely shouldnt be able to say Liverpool are the titans of the last 7 years with City (with faaarrr less resources)
Great team and 6 city players feels fair!
Peak David Silva clears Bernardo Silva. And Pep is better than Klopp if you count overall tasks Pep has won two trebles and multiple times more league titles
Liverpool have better resources than the other teams so of course they can easily take minimum 2nd place
@@Deathmare235 I think i disagree. They have a strong establishment and excellent management but the funding isnt spectacular, i'd call it impressive about their ability to compete at the top
@@Scott-vk8crhe ain’t mate
@@XxR1zexX it is mate
An overall level of these two would be insane with Barcelona Bayern and Dortmund
Which Dortmund era?
Dortmund??? 🤣😭
It has to be fair if not you can’t get any kloop players in
@@eL--RaLReus, Gundogan, Lewandowski, Hummels are some good shouts of course 2 went on to play under Pep too but still don’t disrespect the names
@@thatonebirtyd5058wasn't marco reus also a player under klopp ? If so prime reus before his injury was unstoppable.
Stuntpegg's knowledge is impressive
I think due to the Midfield both selected Pep is the ideal manger for this team. Pep can play beautiful this team. But can Klopp use this midfield.?
Don’t forget Klopp had similar midfield at bvb
@bertrandtheApostle7343 U spoke my mind man..... I don't think he knew Klopp at Dortmund, cos every team in the world wanted to sing and did signed a player from Dortmund
Forgetting the way coutinho was dominating midfield for liverpool?
@@yt2530no he wasn’t countinho was selfish and inconsistent and wasn’t strong enough.
@@Vahapetautus Always popped up with a goal outside the box when he was needed. Only midfielder that consistently put up numbers. Only one that could unlock a tight defence by beating a few players. In that 17/18 season him behind salah mane firmino was a joke of an attacking force.
I like that stuntpegg is very neutral & knowledgeable as well
Easily THE best combined 11 video, complete unbiased throughout and overall in general a good watch👍🏼
Re-post!? 😂
I actually wouldn’t change a single player they pick!
Nieve's segment on Diaz/Stones over Kompany is spot on.. her insights are quite amazing in general..
Not even a mention of Cancelo. He was the best RB or LB, he was so good, in the Prem. Got pace, skills, dribbling, passing, defending and attacking
Criminal he wasn't mentioned. Unfortunately I think the fact city won the treble right after he left hurts his legacy. For me hes better than robbo on his day but not Trent or walker
His peak was way too short. He wasn't seen as one of the best in the world in his first season at City (19/20). 20/21 he started to be seen as one of the best. 21/22 was his peak. 22/23 he got dropped and loaned to Bayern halfway through the season.
I loved Cancelo when he was at his best but he genuinely doesn't have the longevity of Trent and Robertson. I'd also say those two were just as good during their peak. Robertson in particular was the best of the 3 defensively during his peak so there's no way Cancelo gets ahead of him (and LB was where Cancelo played his best football under Pep imo).
Defending was suspect and he was inconsistent.
as a liverpool fan i think its best combined 11 of players played under pep & klopp..i agree with the panel on each players position and but i think both the managers would win everything with this team and do a great job as both have their own traits and we cant compare them with each other .. they are both great managers...
Comparing Klopp and Pep isn't appropriate now. I'd love to see Klopp in the club with no financial troubles and Pep managing clubs that undergo crisis like Mainz, Dortmund, and Liverpool did in the past. Provided that is the case, I can surely predict that Klopp > Pep
Great, level-headed conversation but I can't believe Bernardo Silva has not made this team. Such a big game player. Liverpool fan.
GK - Alisson
LCB - Dias
RCB - Van Dijk
LB - Cancelo
RB - Walker
CDM - Rodri
LCM - De Bruyne
RCM - Bernardo
LW - Mane
RW - Salah
CF - Haaland 🔥
Cancelo ahead of Robertson,No
That is a terrible list
Robertson ahead of cancelo and trent ahead of walker
not having david silva is crazy, one of the best creative midfields we have seen in the prem in the last couple years, and its hard to admit that as a utd fan
GK: Allison
CB: Van Dijk
CB: Dias
LB: Cancelo
RB: Walker
CDM: Rodri
CM: De Bruyne
CM: Bernardo
LW: Mane
RW: Salah
ST: Aguero
Lol..... Cancelo over Robertson is criminal
Alisson
Walker
VVD
Dias
Robertson
Rodri
KDB
Silva
Salah
Mane
Haaland over Aguero, most goals in a season plus treble winner
Do you know there is a player called kompany?
Almost spot on but Cancelo better than Robertson
@@eL--RaLnah brev we don’t claim Cancelo
@@GermanChickenwingdias was his signing and also a treble winner and in the fifapro XI
@@GermanChickenwing in the 3 seasons he played under pep, Kompany played 62 games in all comps, the premier League, champs league & all cups.
In Dias first season under Pep he played in 53 games in all competitions, in 3 seasons Dias has 136 games under pep, and a key player in the treble winning side.
I'm not saying Kompany wasn't a great player because he was, if the question was "City's greatest XI" then there is a debate, since it's who's in the ultimate Pep/ Klopp team it's Dias since he's achieved something Kompany never did
Rare W from the Saturday Social crew lmao, they were actually reasonable for once
Alisson;
Alexander-Arnold
Stones
Van Dijk
Gvardiol;
De Bruyne
Gündogan
Silva;
Salah
Haaland
Mané
Walker>Trent also I want Sane over Mane but thats personal pref
Gvardiol???😂😂 He has not even played half a season
Gvardiol hasn't even been at City for half a season 🤨
@@Max-kx9wy Anyone who thinks Walker is better than Alexander-Arnold is a casual.
@@borger1000 And? I'm not taking longevity into account, it's purely a best XI.
How has Coutinho not been mentioned. He was our best player for the first 3 years of the Klopp era
Yeah thought he has a shout in that midfield.
Sterling>Mane
Dribbling- Sterling clearly
Passing- Sterling it's tight
Finishing- Mane
Crossing- Sterling
1v1-Sterling
speed- Sterling
Strength- Mane
Shooting- Mane
Movement- Sterling
Heading-Sterling
1v1 mane 💯
heading mane💯
passing mane 💯
@@danielqusyairy8019🧢 Sterling is a better 1v1 player
@@DBZFights-j8y not at 1v1 . he only good at tight space.
I'm surprised they didn't talk about Pep being the superior tactician. He literally invented the "advanced centre back" (John Stones role) mid way through the season and won a treble with it
The counter, and the real answer, is Klopp has the better head to head record...
@@brianbates212Klopp took Liverpool from ruins to GLORY. Pep had an already successful team. Pound for pound, Klopp's better
@@emmanuelkoya4529 I think klopp brings the most out of what he has but pep can create the best strategy and tactics. with the exact lineups they want i think pep would beat klopp. but given a ragtag team i think klopp beats pep.
Mince.
He actually didn't invent it. Go back to Rinus Michels at Ajax. Ruud Krol used to play in defence and midfield. That was back in the 1970s. As for Beckenbauer, even Bobby Charlton said that he was a midfielder which obviously belied his sweeper position.
@@glasgowgrad6277 Didn't do my research. I guess Pep just brought it back
I personally think Klopp is a better manager than Guardiola, as much as i hate Liverpool they've done well the last 6-7 years and barely spending any money. Guardiola had one of, if not the best team in the history of football with barca (who have been accused of bribing refs) didn't win the CL with Bayern. Yes he's dominated the league with City recently but they do have 115 FFP charges against them
Liverpool have spent over £800M since Klopps 1st full season (16/17). In what world is that "barely spending any money". They haven't spent as much as city, but it's not like they are some mid table championship side with their spending.
accused and proven innocent, so stop being biased because he clapped United in 2 Ucl finals.
Better manager is the one that win the most, that innovates the most that adapts the most. Pep changed his football, Klopp is unable to play anything than hard rock.
Pep is the reason for the best team in the history, he did not has had it. He assembled it and made it that way.
Simon J Wilson, the best RUclips content creator in the present time.
Buvey conceded the GK just to have a sly dig at schmeichel 😭😭
Goalkeeper: Alisson
Defence: Walker, Kompany, Van Dijk, Robertson
Midfield: De Bruyne, Rodri, David Silva
Forwards: Salah, Aguero, Bernardo Silva
Manager: Pep Guardiola
No way Simon >>>>>> he’s a legend what a RUclipsr
The toughest choice to be made was always going to be between Pep/Klopp. Theres nothing to separate them really. But I agree..for that XI, Pep would get the most out of them. He would absolutely rule the league with that XI, no doubt.
(Just a thought) Can Pep go invincible with that XI though??
I mean klopp nearly went invincible with a lesser squad so most likely
I just thought imagine if Man city signed Van dijk instead of Liverpool Man city would have been unbeatable tbh
Gotnto say the woman is the best commentstor here
This is the most honest Buvey I've ever seen
GK - Alisson
RB - Walker
CB - Kompany
CB - Van Dijk
LB - Robertson
CDM - Rodri
CM - De Bruyne
CM - David Silva
RW - Salah
LW - Mane
ST - Aguero
Fair play, this LFC fan is a decent lad. Mach from Redmen is always a good LFC fan because of him just being so measured and fair, so other LFC fans got a bar to beat, but this guy did well fair play to him. Look at Buvey being all serious for once and not trying to wind everyone up by saying Joe Hart was better than Alisson.
i just don't get football fans. they are saying that trent isn't n.1 rb in the world because he can't defend, but Roberto Carlos couldn't defend as well
Carlos wasn’t a better left back than Maldini or Ashley Cole
B. Silva > D. Silva.
During Pep Guardiola's era, Bernardo has surpassed David significantly. He boasts the record for the most games played under Guardiola, has clinched multiple Premier League titles, secured a Champions League victory, and even earned a place in the top 10 for the Ballon d'Or on two occasions. There is no debate
While I agree B.Silva is better, he isn’t ‘significantly’ above D.Silva
considering only the time playing under Pep Guardiola, yes I would say significantly better@@roronoalaw7772
Big up Simon Wilson love seeing him on sky sports from free McDonald’s to tv
Lots of people are very dismissive of Trent, with the right midfield cover you can't leave him out. Go fernandino and rodri to give cover, Trent and KDB would rinse everyone on transition
did he just say "David silva didn't have the ability to win the Champions league"?
I think he meant ability as in opportunity
@@joesid3153He better have.
re upload cz editor forgot to put the intro
Bruh! It's been a while since I've watched Sam Wilson's channel. Didn't expect to see him on a football channel randomly. 😂😂
Trent is a much better defender than he’s given credit for, always has been and statistics prove it but whatever I guess
I'm going Allison in goal, Robertson left back just because Cancelo was at City for so little time, Van Dijk Kompany and Walker to complete the back line, midfield has to be De Bruyne, Rodri, and probably Bernardo Silva though I'm torn over David Silva. Front three for me has to be Mane, Aguero, and Salah
Alison
Trent - Dias - van dijk - robo
Silva - Rodrigo- de bruen
Salah - Aguero - Mane
Manger: Jurgan Klopp
Nice to Simon Wilson on here, hoping it's not in the middle of a no money challenge!
Klopp/Pep All Time Combined
Neuer
Lahm
VVD
Pique
Dani Alves
Busquets
Bernardo Silva
Xavi
Messi
Håland
Salah
First time I have ever actually fully agreed with the pundits
That shout about kompany was very very valid, hes a legend but didnt play that much in his past few years at city
Glad you invited Niamh, very inciteful...
Ederson is underrated
Surely players would rather play for Klopp than Guardiola. And look at the number of huge money signings that have ended up as bench-warmers under Pep.
Most sensible combined XI and the most sensible discussion ever on Saturday social!
Salah, mane and haaland is a horrific thought, they would be better than msn
Alison
Kyle Walker, Kompany, VVD, Robertson
KDB, Rodri, David Silva
Salah, Haaland, Mané
Manager: Klopp
Honorable mentions: Aguero, Fernandinho, Coutinho, Trent
How could they forget Couthino
I wondering the same thing 😢
The magician
Mine is
GK Alisson
RB Walker
CB Van Dijk
CB Stones/Kompany
LB Robertson
CDM Rodri
CM De Bruyne
CM Gundogan
RW Salah
ST Aguero
LW Mane
How was firmino not in the conversation on striker
the fact that there was any debate over David Silva being in there is honestly crazy. Good end point though!
Raheem Sterling not being considered is a joke, but all in all FAIR arguments, good XI. 🙌
I did think of him myself, as someone who you could possibly get in there…but ultimately I’d go with Mane
No no it’s not, the joke was saying Allison the best of all time premier league
@TP-pq9xx Considering he was probably the best winger in the world at one time, of course he would.
@@MartialFitness656 peter cech is the greatest and its not a debate at all
@TP-pq9xxuhhmm.Who other than him is a better LW
NEED MORE NIEVE!! 👍🏻👏🏻
Alisson is better than Schmeichel, not even a debate 😂
And i hate Liverpool to the core btw 😂
tht the fact
Brilliant team.! Honestly the best 11 and sensible people having good conversation.. Absolutely loved it.
I do get it why no 9 Augero or Haland but Firmino is surely underrated. He has won it all, done is all and kept those 2 on top together (Salah Mane), without Firmino it was impossible for Klopp to do “Gegan press”
It picks itself…
Allison
Trent
VVD
Dias
Robbo
Rodri
KDB
Silva
Mane
Haaland
Salah
Best combined XI
Mane Aguero Salah
KDB
Foden Rodri
Robertson VVD Kompany TAA
Alisson
I'd say allison over ederson in the WHOLE Pep Klopp era is fine, but from the start of last season til now, ederson has been better
also I love Simon Wilson on his channel even on this channel
1. Allison; 2. Walker; 3. Robertson; 4. Komopany; 5. Van Dijk; 6. Fabinhio; 7. David Silva; 8. De Bruyne; 9. Haaland/Aguero; 10. Mane; 11.Salah.
Watching Buvey in this video is like playing the nerfed final boss 😭😭
im gunna say the team should be
Alisson
Walker Kompany VVD Robertson
KDB Rodri Silva
Salah Aguero Mane
The cast didn't deep the Buvey wind up. He didn't even pick Bernardo in his 11
That gully cricket video from 4RBT was just wow, made me believe anything’s possible! 🌟🏏
Pep Guardiola is the best manager I’ve seen in football. There’s a reason he’s never been sacked. He’s won everything there is to win multiple times, he plays scintillating football, he’s a relentless winner. Though I’ve never supported any of his teams but I’ve great admiration for the football his teams produce.
What kind of true City fan wouldn’t name David Silva - el mago - in any combined 11 involving Man City PL players🤦🏻? He is first name in any list , pure class
Pretty much agree with this list. However, would personally go for ruben dias and Haaland over Kompany and Aguero respectively. I feel like, they were towards the tail end of their career under pep and some of it does come from nostalgia bias. Like Haaland has literally broken the permier league goal scoring record in his first season, won a treble and is also doing well this season. It is more than likely that he will surpass agueros legacy at city in the coming years .
Exactly upcoming years, right now Aguero has a better legacy also Salah and mane are goal scoring wingers so Aguero suits them better
The starting 11 doesn't get any better than that
Can’t argue with any of these.
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Mane Salah
Foden
Gundo KDB
Rodri
Robertson Cancelo
V. Dijk Dias
Allison
"David Silva didn't have the quality to win the champions league with City"... Nahh
City wasn't ready to win the champions league yet
It’s a shame that sterling isn’t in the conversation
Stuntpegg reminds buvey about Salah goal is checkmate 😅
I think most Liverpool & City fans will respectively agree this is an ABSOLUTE sublime XI during the Klopp & Pep era. We will not agree however on one coach over the other. Not taking anything from the absolute brilliance of Pep and his legacy, but what would Pep or Klopp be without each other? My argument to why I would choose Klopp would come down to investments. Klopp has done MORE for Liverpool with allot less ability to spend than Pep at City over the last 8 years and without scrutiny.
What would they be without each other? Lol Pep was a treble winner before Klopp even had a top 4 finish in the Bundesliga. Klopp is the one benefitting from this "rivalry" as he is getting overrated. 7 trophies in 8 seasons isn't anything special. And I'm not a pep fan.
how you picking guardiola over klopp? klopp's got the better head to head and he's managed teams with less funds to get better players????
Sterling not even getting a shout is actually crazy.. a player with over 200 goal contributions in the premier league, played for both clubs and was super influential for both, reaching a world class level at City, adapting to a whole new system and way of playing. In terms of longevity and consistency, there's no better LW in the Klopp/Pep era
But didn’t both teams only go on to win the champions league after selling him?
and sterling had a chance at staying at liverpool and pep couldent off thought that much off him consid ring he was still in his peak years. so no he isnt
@@paulwoods4907 ohh Chelsea won da UCL b4 and after Hazard came to da club so sat means Chelsea was better without Hazard
Mane’s just more complete, Sterling definitely has a case though
Sterling over Mane all day long
The entire Pep vs Klopp argument comes down to this. Yes there is a major difference in money. But it can’t be ignored. Pep is an amazing tactician, the greatest manager of all time probably, but Pep goes to a dominant team with money and gets success. What Klopp has done not just with less money but his ability to transform clubs is what sets him apart. Barca, Munich, were massive before Pep and after. City was successful before Pep but obviously he brought even more. But City will continue to be dominant long after he leaves unless they get punished by the FA (they do have 115 charges pending)….What Klopp did at Mainz long term is built a successful academy, built a great managerial program and yes he got relegated but Mainz should be a team in the second division anyways. And they aren’t.. people forget or don’t realize that he literally saved Dortmund who were on the brink of bankruptcy and won trophies and while LFC were massive before Klopp, as a LFC fan, since day 1 the club feels completely different under him then Previous managers.
In the end Pep brings success through spending and brining in amazing players. Klopp brings success by transforming the entire club. End of debate.
Klopp also has the superior record head to head...
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We cannot replace Aguero … Haaland laughing, and Alvarez will be the best Argentine play for Man City
Best guests ever on this show.