My youngest son was accused of assault by a girl at his work place after he would not go out with her. Local police investigated and said no evidence to support her claim so she went to Sherriff who did not investigate but arrested my son. All but one of the store managers ( some one had to run store ) showed up at court to be character witness for him. At court after son's lawyer talked to her lawyer charges were dropped on condition he took anger management class. Instructor said he did not need class and we needed more people like him. She later got arrested for murder and is now a guest of the state.
@@HeliosX28 We did not as there was not enough proof either way. The area in the store where she claimed my son assaulted her was in of the few areas with no camera coverage. We figure karma came thru as she is going to be in prison for a long time.
I work in the legal field. False accusations are evil and disgusting but the system fails because to every false accusations there are hundreds actual assaults that goes with a slap on the wrist especially in big cities without mentioning the many many assaults which go unreported. People across the world believe that the law us about justice but in reality it is societal management of conflicts and animalistic instincts.
false accusations need to be punished. I am tired of these false accusations not be treated as serious especially considering this girl has a history of doing this to others. she will never be happy until her sister is miserable like her
I agree with you but at the same time this means that if the person accused is In jail and the charges stick, if the accuser feels guilty they are discouraged to tell the truth meaning that it could actually backfire on the falsely accused
@breadogi7118 yes because generally the legal system and studies estimate thst around 4% of accusations are proven false; many of those include cases where the victim was forced to back down due to socioeconomic reasons, or not being believed. The 96%+ shouldn't suffer when there is already enough stigma. There are some cases with flat out liars but those are few in comparison, and this is just a fake reddit story that doesn't define real life. I do agree TK's reason sucks, though.
Story 1 just because he has cancer doesn't mean he deserves to be forgiven nor for op to reconcile with him. Story 2 after that betrayal time to go NC nothing he can do or say will erase what his brother did by supporting that liar and never listening to his brother
Story 1, he wanted to die without guilt, OP should not give him that benefit. That nonsense about getting dad's side of the story when he had viewed his father being a toxic AH. OP allowed himself to be clouded by his desire to have a happy relationship. Some people want to be loved by their parents despite how toxic those parents are to them.
ST2 OP’s brother better not complain when he gets falsely accused and that results in him getting arrested. Still stands by his nasty, vile, delinquent of a girlfriend and sister. He and his girlfriend only want to sit down with op, not for a genuine apology but to absolve themselves of their guilt, wanna bet they’d make excuses as to why they believed the sister over op. Brother can apologise all he wants but he’s not actually sorry and never will be, op is better off without him, the gf and her sister. Glad op had his friends, sister and bil backing him. The sister should face punishment including meeting with actual victims of SA, hearing their accounts and being forced to confess to the victims that she got an innocent man arrested for false claims and the victims can tear her a new one.
By your last paragraph you must think this sociopath has a fully developed conscience and cares about right and wrong. She KNOWS what she did was wrong but she doesn't CARE about what she did. If she ever does develop a conscience it will not be in the next year or two.
@@coolbeans3752 While I don't disagree in principle, that will never happen. Let's look at the possible consequences for this girl (legally): *I presume this is the U.S., though I may be wrong, but I'll operate under that assumption. • OP could sue her. That will accomplish nothing. It'll just cost OP money. The girl is a minor child in the eyes of the state, she's in foster care and has no assets, so OP would not be awarded any money in a lawsuit, and even if he was, collecting would be damn near impossible. He would be responsible for his attorney fees and court costs and never see a penny from her. He'd just be throwing away more of his own money. • OP could file for a restraining order. Under the circumstances, he'd likely get one, at least for 2 years. But the girl lives in a different city and her only link to OP is via his brother and his brother's girlfriend, and he's cut both of them off. OP won't realistically have any foreseeable contact with her anyway, so it's unnecessary, and at worst would only give her an opportunity to spread more lies and make more accusations (though that would be stupid of her). There's nothing to gain pursuing this. He's moving anyway at the end of his lease, just change his phone number and lock down social media (which he likely already has) and he's a ghost to 99% of people who might go looking for him. He won't have further contact with her. • Bring Criminal Charges. OP can press charges, but "pressing" charges, just means you're asking for charges to be brought against her. Like "pressing" your boss for a raise, the answer may still be "no". Only the prosecutor in that jurisdiction can make that decision. OP has no say in this. And it sounds like the police dropped the ball on this one, and dredging up their mistakes in court in the same jurisdiction is going to create tension between the local police and the DA's office. That shouldn't matter, but it does. If she's being charged in another county, the DA would prefer it be handled there, by someone else who doesn't need to maintain a relationship with the local PD. • Criminal Charges Cont. The only thing she could be charged with is making a falsified report to law enforcement and harassment. And again, she's a minor child in the eyes of the state, just another troubled foster care kid with a junkie mother and a father in the system. This will be a gentle slap on the wrist. Her record will be sealed anyway, and her attorney will likely advise her to plead no-contest in exchange for court-mandated therapy instead of an ankle monitor or juvenile detention. Perjury is off the table, she didn't swear under oath, nor would the state recognize her as competent to understand her rights in that regard, so if this goes to court, even with all the evidence, it's a coin-toss that the prosecution would even win, and they have bigger fish to fry, so they'll toss her an easy plea deal to put it behind them. The sad truth is that there often isn't justice for victims. Sometimes you're just fucked. It's often best to just get up, dust yourself off and move on. It's not fair, but that's life. If the circumstances were a little bit different, OP might be in a more actionable position, in which case he should go for it. But you have to objectively measure what there is to be gained, and in this case, there's not much. But you can usually trust in Karma. The girl comes from deadbeat parents, has a possible (yet unconfirmed) history of abuse, likely inherited addictive tendencies, run-ins with the law in multiple jurisdictions, is a documented liar whose future claims will be largely disregarded, and when she turns 18, her foster parents will stop getting support checks from the state, rendering her homeless, and her sister/sister's boyfriend are furious with her, so that bridge is burned. Mark my words, this girl will be hustling from the slimy side of a truck-stop glory hole before she turns 20. Her downward trajectory is already well-established, and she has no family for support. The universe has a way of catching up to these people one way or another. She will destroy herself, all society needs to do is step back and let her.
My niece and nephew were adopted, and my sister told them they were adopted when they were very young. My toddler nephew would say he had 3 moms - mom, his birth mom, and his God mom. Our family embraced them just like the other babies, as we didn't care that they were adopted.
Story 2: And that is the problem with the system. If the accusers were punished with the same sentence they accused when proved false, they would not make false accusations. But that would mean making those women pay for their own actions. and we can't have that
The problem is that SA is a pretty hard to prove crime at times, and with lack of evidence, a rapist could very well fight back against their victim and try to frame them to be making a false report. I 100% agree that making a false report is completely unjustified, and that people who do so should face justice too, but the fact of the matter is that SA and falsified reports of SA can be hard to prove.
@@AarushK007 You are thinking of it as a case of only two outcomes, when there are three possible outcomes. If there is an accusation, then either the accused is guilty, or not. Which is two outcomes. And if you think like that, then the accuser is guilty if the accused is not guilty. But there are three outcomes. Either the accusation is proven correct, and the accused is punished. Or the accuser is proven to have made it all up, and the accuser is punished. OR, neither can be proven and neither is punished. As it currently is, we only got the accused being punished if proven guilty. What we need is that the accuser should be punished if proven guilty. Yes, a rapist could fight back agaisnt their victim and try to frame them for a false report. But then again, a false report is a "victim" trying to frame an innocent, which you seem to disregard.
My friend was arrested on just a girl’s word. He had to defend himself until she came clean. She hooked up with him when she was on a “break” with her boyfriend. She was getting back together with her Boyfriend and in order to save face with him first she said she was drunk and couldn’t remember then the story evolved into he taking advantage. He was arrested on what she said.
Second story tell your brother it’s not gonna happen as long as the girl is in the family and has contact with them because you never know when she’s gonna lie again
The person that OP in the second story doesn’t realize when it comes to SA accusations you are guilty and proven innocent, and they will take the woman’s road over it, especially if she’s under certain age
Lbr it's mostly down to the patriarchy, not the people making false allegations. Name one other crime where people react the same way. "Oh you got bit by a shark? Did you really or are you making false allegations? Cause 1% of people who say they got bit by a shark turn out to have willingly put their arm in the shark's mouth and asked it to chomp and then play victim" can you imagine? No. It's not the people making false allegations. Not that there's nothing wrong with false allegations but be honest it's not the false allegations it's the fact that men have all the power and do the majority of SA and want to keep that power and distance themselves from that wildly disproportionate percentile of crimes they commit so they switch the narrative to instead be about the 2% of men who are victims of false allegations rather than the 98% of women who are actually victimised. Statistically one in four women has been assaulted in her life and sa is underreported due to the treatment victims receive based on that overhyped statistic, meanwhile of all reported rapes, only 4.6 out of 1000 lead to incarceration and 2/12 of those will be falsely accused so if you ask me, I think the bigger issue is with the fact that 99.56% of assaults don't lead to incarcerations and not that something like 0.01% of sa allegations lead to false convictions.
@@sweeety969 The 2% number is complete bunk. The only source for it is Susan Brownmiller's "Against Our Will". A book, published in *1976* that got that number from a single sentence quoted from a judge's speech on the topic. Upon further inquiry the clerk that had helped prepare that speech could not remember how he ever got that number in the first place. So not only is it almost 50 years old, there is not even any verifiable data behind it. For anyone interested, look up: "The truth behind legal dominance feminism's 'Two percent false r**e claim' figure" by Edward Greer A meta study done by the Cambridge University Law Journal in 2006 (simply called "False Allegations of R**e") looked at around 20 or so studies on the topic, with false allegations being defined as someone lying on purpose. The results of those studies range all the way from 1.5% up to 90%. With both extremes being equally credible. As in, they had horrible sample sizes. Most of the studies however ranged somewhere between 10% and 20% (including the ones with better sample sizes). Now it needs repeating: these are only the ones were it is known that somebody lied on purpose. No one knows how high the real number is. And there are barely any studies done on the topic, as most papers simply default to quoting the bunk 2% number without any further scrutiny. So, considering the veracity of your 2% number, your other numbers are probably equally great. Also, the main thing keeping women from reporting is feminists constantly lying to them that they will never ever be believed and constantly dragged through the mud by horrible horrible police *men* and they should instead simply go on twitter and tell it to millions of strangers and anyone that dares question it, is simply a r**e apologist.
@@sweeety969your so full of crap. No such thing as a patriarchy, it's because of false accusations that women aren't believed. If the patriarchy was real, male abuse victims wouldn't be ignored and punished for being beaten by their SO. It's not about patriarchy. You feminists always try to blame patriarchy instead of the actual issues causing them.
@@sweeety969 the fact my comment was removed proves my point. Patriarchy doesn't exist, it's just a fabrication for feminists to spew m I s a n d y under the guise of equality. Look what happened with the me too after a handful of women made false claims ( I'm not talking about the actual claims), it completely ended any progress that was made. False accusations hurt women more than your imaginary patriarchy ever will
@@sweeety969true but the stats on false allegations are never really confirmed cuz those reports aren't really filed with the police (cuz when proven to be false the accuser will face backlash) so most of the time the intent behind a false accusation isn't incarceration but societal alienation and it is almost never reflected in any census taken ..... When a person makes an allegation its our duty to LISTEN not BLINDLY BELIEVE ..... An investigation is important and I'm tired of people like you saying that since 98 percent of reported cases were not false then most likely any allegation is true .... That's ignoring a real issue that people face ......
S3: NTA. The only reason they want to know which daughter is adopted is so they know which one to show their favoritism to. Good on OP for snipping that in the bud.
You don’t know that. They want to know their biological relative. Doesn’t mean they will treat the other differently. Her selfishness will deprive them of their family. All she has to do is ask them to not tell them. And if she sees any favoritism then She can address it.
@shadeyreign if that is all there is to it, wouldn't it be simpler for the family members to just apologize? Why does it have to fall on OP to do that when she has already explained her worries to them? At this point it just feels like there are ganging up on her to gaslight her into thinking she did something wrong when she hasn't.
@@shadeyreignIf they're in both of the girls' lives then they will "know" their biological relative. Which one is which shouldn't matter if they intend to treat them both the same and OP can't correct the favoritism in the future if she isn't around to see it or if they're subtle about it. If they genuinely wanted to be in the girls' lives then THEY should stop pushing the subject.
Story One: Cancer patients are never placed on the transplant list because of their life span expectancy. My late mother was not placed on the transplant list for that same reason. SMH
With drama like this, who needs TV shows No wonder Reddit needs an entire backup server just for these stories My popcorn supply is struggling to keep up!
2nd story: So OP's brother is still dating the girlfriend who accuses OP of SA? Bro, OP's brother is a lost cause because sooner or later he will be the one who get accuse of SA by his girlfriend. I bet when the time comes. He will be like Surprised Pikachu Face when it happen.
Story 1: Just because he is dying, doesn't men he is owed forgiveness. The sperm donor made his choices, now he has to live and now, die with the consequences. Besides, he had more than enough time to make things right with OP before he got cancer.
Is the brother still with the girlfriend? He can't be that sorry if he is. Does he seriously think OP will ever want to be in the room with her ever again?!
People lie for an endless list of reasons. People like the sister in this story, definitely likes "her imagination". I believe that it should be arranged for her "dreams" to come true. Give her that experience . Everything she's wanting......and....More.
Because it's about thinking of people as groups rather than as individuals. IE there are more guilty r-pists going free then there are false accusations, therefore if we believe all women there will be less innocents punished by the law then there are victims of SA that gets not justice. Of course, thinking about it from an individual standpoint then it means that innocent people will be punished while guilty will go free, just so that the numbers of criminals and punished match up, regardless of who did what.
@@willambonney You seem to disregard the fact that eyewitness testimony is considered evidence. Including the victims own testimony, which is often the most crucial evidence in most trials with a victim present.
This is why women pick the bear. Because guys value the 0.01% chance of being falsely convicted of rape as more important and worse than the 99.9% or actual rapes. The 99.9% of women who actually got raped, 99.5% of which never even get the benefit of a conviction, don't matter. The only thing that does is that 2 out of 1000 allegations are false. That carries more weight than the other 998.
I was arrested on one person's word, had conclusive video confirming my story. They-police and DA's office-didn't look at that video in the 20 months until the charges were dropped. I still have it JIC
3rd story, it is probably best that OP does not have anything to do with family (as OP's family are not trustworthy not to say or act differently around the 2 children) until she tells the children 1 is not OP's bio child. Both fathers should be taken to court for child support payments regardless of if they want to have anything to do with their child. Also, OP should check to see what kind of services are available for single parent families.
STORY 2 If brother and gf's sister wish to prove they are truly apologetic perhaps they should pay back OP's sister the money she lent OP for his legal fees.
Story 1 Okay maybe I wasn't paying attention but did OP ever explain why her father treated her like that Story 2 It's sad that story 2 is one of the most believable things I know that can happen to a man
Story 1: No she didn't, but considering everything that was said in the story we can pretty much make a good guess, father being career military (at least that's what it sounds like) and a bad breakup implies as well as the mother apologizing for something in the past implies one of the 2 parents cheated, this is extremely common among soldiers and so common in fact that statistically military marriages are far more likely to fail than normal population, considering the father's resentment combined with his strange action when she was younger the most likely cheater is the mother and the divorce was a really bad one. Can't call it fact, but that's what it sounds like to me.
Story 1: OP seems gaslighted at the end just because the father has a terminal illness. S/he seems to think that his mom and dad equally did toxic things. I hope OP reads his/her first post because the actions the father did in the post is inexcusable. Suddenly sending his things to their place saying that he wants to stay with them and then, sending the police to them for those things is just inexcusable. Maybe the mom did bad things to the dad as well but the emotional hurt he caused OP, his child will never be excusable.
What a nightmare family from story 3 I'm almost certain that they are gonna ruin both children by spoiling one so they become overly entitled, and starve the second one of love and affection with their blatant favoritism
To be very frank, I think they have a right to know who is biological daughter and who is adopted one. Although OP must make it clear that any sign of partiality will get them block and thrown away before telling them.
@@shadabkhan-sy3sp the thing is they actually don't if the legal Guardian decides that it's in the best Interest of the children to never make the distinction The idea that grandparents have rights to the children that the parents can't deny is disgusting since they had no part in thoes kids being around, they aren't their kids after all so they aren't entitled to anything regarding them
@@CinnamonBob Thats true but the fact is if OP wants them in her life she can make some compromise too. She may consider both children her daughter equally but does that means everyone will think the same way? Isnt OP trying to force her view on the grandparents ?
@@shadabkhan-sy3sp fair point but op not allowing them to know is up to her and the rest of the family harassing op to give up who is her biological daughter are forcing their views on op, and the fact that they are harassing op about her decision/secrecy instead of reasonably trying to share their reasoning and side to why they want to know puts them in the wrong Remember that as their parent OP has the final say and the other family members don't get to decide for her or her daughters on knowing who is who I can understand people who agree with the rest of the family but If I had adopted a child and had another child of my own with my wife I would also choose to keep who is who to myself for fear of favoritism
Just because op's father had beef with her mother, he still could have been a good father for her. And not treat her like a parasite. Forgiveness is for the person giving it. I'm glad OP is getting closure and feeling better in story 1
Story 2, brother wants to resolve things with Op but is still with the GF who has the toxic sister, OP should tell him not as long as those women are in his life as OP isn't letting that sister get another chance to ruin his life on a dare.
Can't hold the men to account when you got your friend out of hot water by taking her kid then expecting the family to treat your friend kid no diff then their blood
It seems self-evident that the mom in the 3rd story should tell her daughter that she is adopted once the girl is old enough to understand what that means. Or, at least say that one of them is adopted and ask them if they want to know which. Knowing one's own origin story and about possible genetic health issues is pretty important. Plus the daughters may find out eventually anyway about one of them being adopted, due to something an extended family member says or from a genealogy DNA test. Better to just be up front and open about it, rather than acting like it is something to hide.
Going to say one thing about the second story. The computer analysis could have taken less time if she provided passwords and information so breaking into it is not needed.
S1 nta you don't have to forgive you can let go and move on its better than keeping the toxicity S2 nta definitely cutting ties with such toxicity people is the best idea
The woman who was using two babies at some sort of woke outrage mine is mentally ill. She said that eventually, Lily was going back to her mother, so why does everyone have to be confused with genealogy? It makes no sense.
S1: I'm going to assume the dad revealed that OP's not his child and that he was still forced to pay child support nonetheless. This would explain the dad's prior resentment/OP's sudden epiphany of understanding that both his parents are flawed.
Second story.i don't know why they arrested me with no evidence. Also, op 30 seconds before the video is over. She had a bunch of marks on her. I believe you're innocent. But that's why you were arrested
Story -WHY live with someone that is a KNOWN false accuser?? OP may not have been fully aware, but the brother was and STILL sided with a known liar till the video proof (that shouldn't have been needed) came out.. OPs brother is as vial as her for jumping so fast in accusation, even if he was 🐱 whipped (which is worse)
Story 2 made me feel disgust, this is why so many mans' lives are ruined and people don't want to believe in a real victim. I feel really bad for OP, at least he has his sister as a good member in his family. Also why is OP's brother still with her? Did she cut her sister off after what she did? And yes, for the ones who didn't understan it wans't OP's SIL that made the false acusations, it was her sister. (Some comments didn't realize that) Anywas, if his brother is really sorry then he should pay OP's lawyer fees, make a public apologie and make the liar and criminal also do one and of his girlfriend still in contact with the liar/criminal he should break up, if not he is showing that he rather have a relationship with someone that is still in contact with someone who almost ruined his brother's life for a stupid truth or dare game. If he really wants to apologize then he needs to stand up for OP after he helped OP's life to almost be ruined, so that means do everything on his power to make it up for OP and break up with his girlfriend if necessary, as she's the sister of the people who almost ruined OP's life forever.
I saw my grammar mistakes, but i don't like to edit my comments so the "of" insted of "if" when i talked about if brother's girlfriend staying in contact with the liar.
S1: OP left out so many informations. I mean, if you gonna post on reddit, just go all out and spill all the bean, now we will never know why exactly the parents divorced. Never even heard the mom's side.
Story 2: Hol' up, so the brother KNEW Erica would repeatedly make false claims to his girlfriend about him being inappropriate around her, yet didn't think twice about taking her side when she accused oop of SA? Nah, it sounds like brother is an effing coward, and oop needs to make it clear they will have no relationship until Erica is GONE.
I'm at the point of believing that SA or DV should not be punitive crimes, if you're willing to use a law that's meant to protect you as a weapon then whatever that law intended tor protect you from is not that serious.
The problem is not with the law, but how it is used. The problem is that due process and innocent until proven guilty, is set aside for certain crimes due to political reasons. And whenever politics goes above justice, then there is no longer any justice.
@@nehcrum which I would use as an argument to decriminalize them, I don't condone them but they're clearly not that big a deal if people falsely accuse others for their benefit.
@@vaxel0068 Which will not work, as you said, they accuse others for their benefit, so if that crime no longer works, they will just accuse them of something else. Combine thqt with the fact that most who are unjustly accused of SA never go to trial and is punished by the people around them, Which will still be an issue even if decriminalized.
@@nehcrum then move the needle until every law that can be used as a weapon for one's own benefit is decriminalized. Real victims either have something to say about it and complain or they don't and comply which will just make the point that it wasn't a big deal in the first place.
@@vaxel0068 Real victims of SA and DV will have something to say about abolishing those laws. But what you want is anarchy, where there are no laws, as all laws can be politicized and used as a weapon for one's own benefit. And that only creates a situation where the very same people will use the absence of laws for their own benefit. The fact that some laws work bad doesn't mean you remove the laws. It means you fix them so that they work right.
15:33 obviously, he lives in the USA. There's thousands of innocent guys sitting in a jail cell because of a victim's word only. Presumed guilty is the new norm.
Last posts plan for how and when do telk tgeir kud theyre adopted is the most fucked up therapy inducing plan ever. This is why you need to work closely with social services when adopting
Story #2: Men that still stand by a woman that falsely accuses another man of SA will always confuse me because they’ve fallen victim to that same form of crazy one way or another throughout the relationship. There’s no way all that could have stay contained within herself without breaking out a few times. Eventually allowing it to spreading towards innocent bystanders of the relationship…your own brother…and he’s still in a relationship with her after the truth came out? Easy decision, NC.🫠
If she can say his brother did it, she can say he did it. That brother a massive idiot at best, and if he's not dropping her over this he's a pathetic doormat with no moral backbone. If I were in a relationship with someone and I found out they'd lied about something like that, we'd be done then and there. I'd record dropping her and all future interactions afterwards too.
My youngest son was accused of assault by a girl at his work place after he would not go out with her. Local police investigated and said no evidence to support her claim so she went to Sherriff who did not investigate but arrested my son. All but one of the store managers ( some one had to run store ) showed up at court to be character witness for him. At court after son's lawyer talked to her lawyer charges were dropped on condition he took anger management class. Instructor said he did not need class and we needed more people like him. She later got arrested for murder and is now a guest of the state.
Hopefully y'all sued the Tramp for Slander and Defamation of Character
@@HeliosX28 We did not as there was not enough proof either way. The area in the store where she claimed my son assaulted her was in of the few areas with no camera coverage. We figure karma came thru as she is going to be in prison for a long time.
@@otway00 No, karma did not come through, because someone had to die needlessly.
@@otway00not saying the murder could have been avoided, but there should have been consequences, like jail time, in a saner world
I work in the legal field. False accusations are evil and disgusting but the system fails because to every false accusations there are hundreds actual assaults that goes with a slap on the wrist especially in big cities without mentioning the many many assaults which go unreported. People across the world believe that the law us about justice but in reality it is societal management of conflicts and animalistic instincts.
false accusations need to be punished. I am tired of these false accusations not be treated as serious especially considering this girl has a history of doing this to others. she will never be happy until her sister is miserable like her
I agree with you but at the same time this means that if the person accused is In jail and the charges stick, if the accuser feels guilty they are discouraged to tell the truth meaning that it could actually backfire on the falsely accused
@@tkbreezy21so the default is that the false accusers are let go free without any consequences
@@tkbreezy21 no that is nonsense. people need to scared to make stupid accusations in the first place. and fyi people almost never come clean
@breadogi7118 yes because generally the legal system and studies estimate thst around 4% of accusations are proven false; many of those include cases where the victim was forced to back down due to socioeconomic reasons, or not being believed. The 96%+ shouldn't suffer when there is already enough stigma. There are some cases with flat out liars but those are few in comparison, and this is just a fake reddit story that doesn't define real life. I do agree TK's reason sucks, though.
Story 1 just because he has cancer doesn't mean he deserves to be forgiven nor for op to reconcile with him. Story 2 after that betrayal time to go NC nothing he can do or say will erase what his brother did by supporting that liar and never listening to his brother
OP is broken and broken people act like doormats and attracts toxic abusive narcissists as partners.
Forgiveness is a gift to the wronged party. That means it is never earned.
Story 2: After such a betrayal, NC is the way to go. Family should support each other, not lies.
Story 1, he wanted to die without guilt, OP should not give him that benefit. That nonsense about getting dad's side of the story when he had viewed his father being a toxic AH. OP allowed himself to be clouded by his desire to have a happy relationship. Some people want to be loved by their parents despite how toxic those parents are to them.
The sad part is how one redditor didnt think op was telling the truth, because they couldn't understand how messed up the system is
Right!?!? Like it’s guilty until innocent for a guy.
@@thatoneguy9816 even then it's guilty after cause people won't see it that way
@@tonemaster4608 No smoke without fire and all that... What a crock of shit!
ST2
OP’s brother better not complain when he gets falsely accused and that results in him getting arrested.
Still stands by his nasty, vile, delinquent of a girlfriend and sister.
He and his girlfriend only want to sit down with op, not for a genuine apology but to absolve themselves of their guilt, wanna bet they’d make excuses as to why they believed the sister over op.
Brother can apologise all he wants but he’s not actually sorry and never will be, op is better off without him, the gf and her sister.
Glad op had his friends, sister and bil backing him.
The sister should face punishment including meeting with actual victims of SA, hearing their accounts and being forced to confess to the victims that she got an innocent man arrested for false claims and the victims can tear her a new one.
By your last paragraph you must think this sociopath has a fully developed conscience and cares about right and wrong. She KNOWS what she did was wrong but she doesn't CARE about what she did. If she ever does develop a conscience it will not be in the next year or two.
@@shells500tutubo
Yes definitely, lock her up for 20 years in prison.
@@coolbeans3752
While I don't disagree in principle, that will never happen.
Let's look at the possible consequences for this girl (legally):
*I presume this is the U.S., though I may be wrong, but I'll operate under that assumption.
• OP could sue her.
That will accomplish nothing. It'll just cost OP money. The girl is a minor child in the eyes of the state, she's in foster care and has no assets, so OP would not be awarded any money in a lawsuit, and even if he was, collecting would be damn near impossible. He would be responsible for his attorney fees and court costs and never see a penny from her. He'd just be throwing away more of his own money.
• OP could file for a restraining order.
Under the circumstances, he'd likely get one, at least for 2 years. But the girl lives in a different city and her only link to OP is via his brother and his brother's girlfriend, and he's cut both of them off. OP won't realistically have any foreseeable contact with her anyway, so it's unnecessary, and at worst would only give her an opportunity to spread more lies and make more accusations (though that would be stupid of her). There's nothing to gain pursuing this. He's moving anyway at the end of his lease, just change his phone number and lock down social media (which he likely already has) and he's a ghost to 99% of people who might go looking for him. He won't have further contact with her.
• Bring Criminal Charges.
OP can press charges, but "pressing" charges, just means you're asking for charges to be brought against her. Like "pressing" your boss for a raise, the answer may still be "no". Only the prosecutor in that jurisdiction can make that decision. OP has no say in this. And it sounds like the police dropped the ball on this one, and dredging up their mistakes in court in the same jurisdiction is going to create tension between the local police and the DA's office. That shouldn't matter, but it does. If she's being charged in another county, the DA would prefer it be handled there, by someone else who doesn't need to maintain a relationship with the local PD.
• Criminal Charges Cont.
The only thing she could be charged with is making a falsified report to law enforcement and harassment. And again, she's a minor child in the eyes of the state, just another troubled foster care kid with a junkie mother and a father in the system. This will be a gentle slap on the wrist. Her record will be sealed anyway, and her attorney will likely advise her to plead no-contest in exchange for court-mandated therapy instead of an ankle monitor or juvenile detention. Perjury is off the table, she didn't swear under oath, nor would the state recognize her as competent to understand her rights in that regard, so if this goes to court, even with all the evidence, it's a coin-toss that the prosecution would even win, and they have bigger fish to fry, so they'll toss her an easy plea deal to put it behind them.
The sad truth is that there often isn't justice for victims. Sometimes you're just fucked. It's often best to just get up, dust yourself off and move on. It's not fair, but that's life. If the circumstances were a little bit different, OP might be in a more actionable position, in which case he should go for it. But you have to objectively measure what there is to be gained, and in this case, there's not much.
But you can usually trust in Karma. The girl comes from deadbeat parents, has a possible (yet unconfirmed) history of abuse, likely inherited addictive tendencies, run-ins with the law in multiple jurisdictions, is a documented liar whose future claims will be largely disregarded, and when she turns 18, her foster parents will stop getting support checks from the state, rendering her homeless, and her sister/sister's boyfriend are furious with her, so that bridge is burned. Mark my words, this girl will be hustling from the slimy side of a truck-stop glory hole before she turns 20. Her downward trajectory is already well-established, and she has no family for support. The universe has a way of catching up to these people one way or another. She will destroy herself, all society needs to do is step back and let her.
My niece and nephew were adopted, and my sister told them they were adopted when they were very young. My toddler nephew would say he had 3 moms - mom, his birth mom, and his God mom. Our family embraced them just like the other babies, as we didn't care that they were adopted.
Story 2: And that is the problem with the system. If the accusers were punished with the same sentence they accused when proved false, they would not make false accusations.
But that would mean making those women pay for their own actions. and we can't have that
The problem is that SA is a pretty hard to prove crime at times, and with lack of evidence, a rapist could very well fight back against their victim and try to frame them to be making a false report. I 100% agree that making a false report is completely unjustified, and that people who do so should face justice too, but the fact of the matter is that SA and falsified reports of SA can be hard to prove.
@@AarushK007 perhaps they should put women who makes false accusations of sa, on a registry instead at the very least then..
@@DarthP1kachu that could probably work. Again, I am not anyone familiar with law, just a random internet stranger with an opinion.
@@AarushK007 You are thinking of it as a case of only two outcomes, when there are three possible outcomes.
If there is an accusation, then either the accused is guilty, or not. Which is two outcomes. And if you think like that, then the accuser is guilty if the accused is not guilty.
But there are three outcomes. Either the accusation is proven correct, and the accused is punished. Or the accuser is proven to have made it all up, and the accuser is punished. OR, neither can be proven and neither is punished.
As it currently is, we only got the accused being punished if proven guilty. What we need is that the accuser should be punished if proven guilty.
Yes, a rapist could fight back agaisnt their victim and try to frame them for a false report. But then again, a false report is a "victim" trying to frame an innocent, which you seem to disregard.
Even if she doesn't get charged, OP can still file a civil lawsuit for defamation and emotional distress.
My friend was arrested on just a girl’s word. He had to defend himself until she came clean. She hooked up with him when she was on a “break” with her boyfriend. She was getting back together with her Boyfriend and in order to save face with him first she said she was drunk and couldn’t remember then the story evolved into he taking advantage. He was arrested on what she said.
Second story tell your brother it’s not gonna happen as long as the girl is in the family and has contact with them because you never know when she’s gonna lie again
The person that OP in the second story doesn’t realize when it comes to SA accusations you are guilty and proven innocent, and they will take the woman’s road over it, especially if she’s under certain age
People that make false accusations are the ones that make it so real victims have a harder time of being believed.
Lbr it's mostly down to the patriarchy, not the people making false allegations. Name one other crime where people react the same way. "Oh you got bit by a shark? Did you really or are you making false allegations? Cause 1% of people who say they got bit by a shark turn out to have willingly put their arm in the shark's mouth and asked it to chomp and then play victim" can you imagine? No. It's not the people making false allegations. Not that there's nothing wrong with false allegations but be honest it's not the false allegations it's the fact that men have all the power and do the majority of SA and want to keep that power and distance themselves from that wildly disproportionate percentile of crimes they commit so they switch the narrative to instead be about the 2% of men who are victims of false allegations rather than the 98% of women who are actually victimised. Statistically one in four women has been assaulted in her life and sa is underreported due to the treatment victims receive based on that overhyped statistic, meanwhile of all reported rapes, only 4.6 out of 1000 lead to incarceration and 2/12 of those will be falsely accused so if you ask me, I think the bigger issue is with the fact that 99.56% of assaults don't lead to incarcerations and not that something like 0.01% of sa allegations lead to false convictions.
@@sweeety969 The 2% number is complete bunk. The only source for it is Susan Brownmiller's "Against Our Will". A book, published in *1976* that got that number from a single sentence quoted from a judge's speech on the topic. Upon further inquiry the clerk that had helped prepare that speech could not remember how he ever got that number in the first place.
So not only is it almost 50 years old, there is not even any verifiable data behind it.
For anyone interested, look up: "The truth behind legal dominance feminism's 'Two percent false r**e claim' figure" by Edward Greer
A meta study done by the Cambridge University Law Journal in 2006 (simply called "False Allegations of R**e") looked at around 20 or so studies on the topic, with false allegations being defined as someone lying on purpose.
The results of those studies range all the way from 1.5% up to 90%. With both extremes being equally credible. As in, they had horrible sample sizes. Most of the studies however ranged somewhere between 10% and 20% (including the ones with better sample sizes).
Now it needs repeating: these are only the ones were it is known that somebody lied on purpose.
No one knows how high the real number is. And there are barely any studies done on the topic, as most papers simply default to quoting the bunk 2% number without any further scrutiny.
So, considering the veracity of your 2% number, your other numbers are probably equally great.
Also, the main thing keeping women from reporting is feminists constantly lying to them that they will never ever be believed and constantly dragged through the mud by horrible horrible police *men* and they should instead simply go on twitter and tell it to millions of strangers and anyone that dares question it, is simply a r**e apologist.
@@sweeety969your so full of crap. No such thing as a patriarchy, it's because of false accusations that women aren't believed. If the patriarchy was real, male abuse victims wouldn't be ignored and punished for being beaten by their SO. It's not about patriarchy. You feminists always try to blame patriarchy instead of the actual issues causing them.
@@sweeety969 the fact my comment was removed proves my point. Patriarchy doesn't exist, it's just a fabrication for feminists to spew m I s a n d y under the guise of equality. Look what happened with the me too after a handful of women made false claims ( I'm not talking about the actual claims), it completely ended any progress that was made. False accusations hurt women more than your imaginary patriarchy ever will
@@sweeety969true but the stats on false allegations are never really confirmed cuz those reports aren't really filed with the police (cuz when proven to be false the accuser will face backlash) so most of the time the intent behind a false accusation isn't incarceration but societal alienation and it is almost never reflected in any census taken ..... When a person makes an allegation its our duty to LISTEN not BLINDLY BELIEVE ..... An investigation is important and I'm tired of people like you saying that since 98 percent of reported cases were not false then most likely any allegation is true .... That's ignoring a real issue that people face ......
S3: NTA. The only reason they want to know which daughter is adopted is so they know which one to show their favoritism to. Good on OP for snipping that in the bud.
Yup. The fact they was willing to die on this hill just show they had no plans on treating Lily like their grandchild/niece.
If one of your parents remarried and demanded you treat the stepparent as if they were your parent, would that be for denying favoritism, as well?
You don’t know that. They want to know their biological relative. Doesn’t mean they will treat the other differently. Her selfishness will deprive them of their family. All she has to do is ask them to not tell them. And if she sees any favoritism then She can address it.
@shadeyreign if that is all there is to it, wouldn't it be simpler for the family members to just apologize? Why does it have to fall on OP to do that when she has already explained her worries to them? At this point it just feels like there are ganging up on her to gaslight her into thinking she did something wrong when she hasn't.
@@shadeyreignIf they're in both of the girls' lives then they will "know" their biological relative. Which one is which shouldn't matter if they intend to treat them both the same and OP can't correct the favoritism in the future if she isn't around to see it or if they're subtle about it. If they genuinely wanted to be in the girls' lives then THEY should stop pushing the subject.
Story One: Cancer patients are never placed on the transplant list because of their life span expectancy. My late mother was not placed on the transplant list for that same reason. SMH
Cancer isn't a blanket disqualifier for transplant, it depends on the type or if the potential recipient has a history of metastatic disease.
False accusers should receive jail time if proven guilty. This is getting out of hand
With drama like this, who needs TV shows No wonder Reddit needs an entire backup server just for these stories My popcorn supply is struggling to keep up!
They’re honestly better than most of the tv shows today with their terribly predictable plots
2nd story: So OP's brother is still dating the girlfriend who accuses OP of SA? Bro, OP's brother is a lost cause because sooner or later he will be the one who get accuse of SA by his girlfriend. I bet when the time comes. He will be like Surprised Pikachu Face when it happen.
Girlfriends SISTER!! But your point still stands
Story 1: Just because he is dying, doesn't men he is owed forgiveness.
The sperm donor made his choices, now he has to live and now, die with the consequences. Besides, he had more than enough time to make things right with OP before he got cancer.
Is the brother still with the girlfriend? He can't be that sorry if he is. Does he seriously think OP will ever want to be in the room with her ever again?!
Story 2: I’d sue Erica and the brother for defamation of character, abuse of process, and wrongful arrest.
No amount of money will ever help someone heal from being falsely accused of SA
@@jefmarquez2863 could at least help start a whole new life. And it could set a precedent to discourage it.
Story 2 press charges
He is
"Women NEVER lie about grape! Believe all women!'
Now, we're adding BOREDOM to the list of reasons why women have falsely accused men.
People lie for an endless list of reasons. People like the sister in this story, definitely likes "her imagination".
I believe that it should be arranged for her "dreams" to come true. Give her that experience . Everything she's wanting......and....More.
Because it's about thinking of people as groups rather than as individuals.
IE there are more guilty r-pists going free then there are false accusations, therefore if we believe all women there will be less innocents punished by the law then there are victims of SA that gets not justice.
Of course, thinking about it from an individual standpoint then it means that innocent people will be punished while guilty will go free, just so that the numbers of criminals and punished match up, regardless of who did what.
Arrested without evidence?....i can think so many rights violations
@@willambonney You seem to disregard the fact that eyewitness testimony is considered evidence. Including the victims own testimony, which is often the most crucial evidence in most trials with a victim present.
This is why women pick the bear. Because guys value the 0.01% chance of being falsely convicted of rape as more important and worse than the 99.9% or actual rapes. The 99.9% of women who actually got raped, 99.5% of which never even get the benefit of a conviction, don't matter. The only thing that does is that 2 out of 1000 allegations are false. That carries more weight than the other 998.
I was arrested on one person's word, had conclusive video confirming my story. They-police and DA's office-didn't look at that video in the 20 months until the charges were dropped. I still have it JIC
3rd story, it is probably best that OP does not have anything to do with family (as OP's family are not trustworthy not to say or act differently around the 2 children) until she tells the children 1 is not OP's bio child. Both fathers should be taken to court for child support payments regardless of if they want to have anything to do with their child. Also, OP should check to see what kind of services are available for single parent families.
STORY 2 If brother and gf's sister wish to prove they are truly apologetic perhaps they should pay back OP's sister the money she lent OP for his legal fees.
Story 2: She has more cases of accusations? Yeah, stay no contact with Bro if he's with that kind of girl.
I LOVE how one of the commenters from story 2 are named after an All Tomorrows Alien Species.
Sue the brother's girl friend for your out of pocket expenses. Moneies lost from work. Pain and suffering......
Story 1
Okay maybe I wasn't paying attention but did OP ever explain why her father treated her like that
Story 2
It's sad that story 2 is one of the most believable things I know that can happen to a man
Story 1:
No she didn't, but considering everything that was said in the story we can pretty much make a good guess, father being career military (at least that's what it sounds like) and a bad breakup implies as well as the mother apologizing for something in the past implies one of the 2 parents cheated, this is extremely common among soldiers and so common in fact that statistically military marriages are far more likely to fail than normal population, considering the father's resentment combined with his strange action when she was younger the most likely cheater is the mother and the divorce was a really bad one.
Can't call it fact, but that's what it sounds like to me.
@@tatsuya2112
I guess I will take that as the conclusion of that story then I can't come up with any other possibility myself
Second story, he should sue her parents for the legal fees, and emotional damages.
Story 1: OP seems gaslighted at the end just because the father has a terminal illness. S/he seems to think that his mom and dad equally did toxic things. I hope OP reads his/her first post because the actions the father did in the post is inexcusable. Suddenly sending his things to their place saying that he wants to stay with them and then, sending the police to them for those things is just inexcusable. Maybe the mom did bad things to the dad as well but the emotional hurt he caused OP, his child will never be excusable.
s2- shout out to the lady detective going all the way to his employer to ask not to fire him and she believed in his innocence.
Doesn't matter what happens between the parents. Don't need to hear both sides. You don't hurt the child like the first OP's father did.
8:40 2nd story
What a nightmare family from story 3
I'm almost certain that they are gonna ruin both children by spoiling one so they become overly entitled, and starve the second one of love and affection with their blatant favoritism
To be very frank, I think they have a right to know who is biological daughter and who is adopted one. Although OP must make it clear that any sign of partiality will get them block and thrown away before telling them.
@@shadabkhan-sy3sp100% agree with this perspective.
@@shadabkhan-sy3sp the thing is they actually don't if the legal Guardian decides that it's in the best Interest of the children to never make the distinction
The idea that grandparents have rights to the children that the parents can't deny is disgusting since they had no part in thoes kids being around, they aren't their kids after all so they aren't entitled to anything regarding them
@@CinnamonBob Thats true but the fact is if OP wants them in her life she can make some compromise too. She may consider both children her daughter equally but does that means everyone will think the same way?
Isnt OP trying to force her view on the grandparents ?
@@shadabkhan-sy3sp fair point but op not allowing them to know is up to her and the rest of the family harassing op to give up who is her biological daughter are forcing their views on op, and the fact that they are harassing op about her decision/secrecy instead of reasonably trying to share their reasoning and side to why they want to know puts them in the wrong
Remember that as their parent OP has the final say and the other family members don't get to decide for her or her daughters on knowing who is who
I can understand people who agree with the rest of the family but If I had adopted a child and had another child of my own with my wife I would also choose to keep who is who to myself for fear of favoritism
Great, now he needs a new brother and a new apartment.
Good news is that bil is first choice in that field
He’s already a new brother, his bil so a huge upgrade
Just because op's father had beef with her mother, he still could have been a good father for her. And not treat her like a parasite. Forgiveness is for the person giving it. I'm glad OP is getting closure and feeling better in story 1
Erica need to go to jail and sue I hate ppl who lie about that
Story1. I would sue brother's gf for all attorneys fees.
Story 2, brother wants to resolve things with Op but is still with the GF who has the toxic sister, OP should tell him not as long as those women are in his life as OP isn't letting that sister get another chance to ruin his life on a dare.
lowkey i want op james and anna to become a lil family unit together.
Can't hold the men to account when you got your friend out of hot water by taking her kid then expecting the family to treat your friend kid no diff then their blood
If "it isn't worth the fight" then why are they fighting about it?
No dont let your family in they will disrespect your child . They have already shown hate toward a child
Story 2 is just one example why I'm not inclined to ever believe a woman
The person not believing the second poster because they got arrested from the accusers word only... they must be very naive
It especially made sense after the mention of it happening in a small town.
Sue sil's sister for the legal fees to defend against her lie
It seems self-evident that the mom in the 3rd story should tell her daughter that she is adopted once the girl is old enough to understand what that means. Or, at least say that one of them is adopted and ask them if they want to know which. Knowing one's own origin story and about possible genetic health issues is pretty important. Plus the daughters may find out eventually anyway about one of them being adopted, due to something an extended family member says or from a genealogy DNA test. Better to just be up front and open about it, rather than acting like it is something to hide.
Going to say one thing about the second story. The computer analysis could have taken less time if she provided passwords and information so breaking into it is not needed.
Wouldn't they have done a rape kit or something? I'm pretty sure they could have checked for any injuries common on rape victims.
S1 nta you don't have to forgive you can let go and move on its better than keeping the toxicity
S2 nta definitely cutting ties with such toxicity people is the best idea
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The woman who was using two babies at some sort of woke outrage mine is mentally ill. She said that eventually, Lily was going back to her mother, so why does everyone have to be confused with genealogy? It makes no sense.
Ik these are people lives, but I feel like they should animate or make a TV show from all these.
If the brother were actually sorry, why would he still be with his gf?
Story 2:
OP = NTA
SiL Erica = WAHMEN ☕🙄😮💨😡🤢
S1: I'm going to assume the dad revealed that OP's not his child and that he was still forced to pay child support nonetheless. This would explain the dad's prior resentment/OP's sudden epiphany of understanding that both his parents are flawed.
8:38 is the second story, they tried to set it to 8:63 which broke the checkmarker thingies
Story 2: I want Erica to be forced to pay the OP's legal fees.
Second story.i don't know why they arrested me with no evidence. Also, op 30 seconds before the video is over. She had a bunch of marks on her. I believe you're innocent. But that's why you were arrested
Hey , there’s a typo in your description ! The second story starts at 8:36 , not 8:63 ! Thanks for the post !
Believe all women... Yeah, okay.
Story -WHY live with someone that is a KNOWN false accuser?? OP may not have been fully aware, but the brother was and STILL sided with a known liar till the video proof (that shouldn't have been needed) came out.. OPs brother is as vial as her for jumping so fast in accusation, even if he was 🐱 whipped (which is worse)
Story 2 made me feel disgust, this is why so many mans' lives are ruined and people don't want to believe in a real victim. I feel really bad for OP, at least he has his sister as a good member in his family. Also why is OP's brother still with her? Did she cut her sister off after what she did? And yes, for the ones who didn't understan it wans't OP's SIL that made the false acusations, it was her sister. (Some comments didn't realize that) Anywas, if his brother is really sorry then he should pay OP's lawyer fees, make a public apologie and make the liar and criminal also do one and of his girlfriend still in contact with the liar/criminal he should break up, if not he is showing that he rather have a relationship with someone that is still in contact with someone who almost ruined his brother's life for a stupid truth or dare game. If he really wants to apologize then he needs to stand up for OP after he helped OP's life to almost be ruined, so that means do everything on his power to make it up for OP and break up with his girlfriend if necessary, as she's the sister of the people who almost ruined OP's life forever.
I saw my grammar mistakes, but i don't like to edit my comments so the "of" insted of "if" when i talked about if brother's girlfriend staying in contact with the liar.
S1: OP left out so many informations. I mean, if you gonna post on reddit, just go all out and spill all the bean, now we will never know why exactly the parents divorced. Never even heard the mom's side.
Story 1: Sounds like the mom was the initial wrongdoer and the dad was emotionally destroyed and made terrible decisions as a result.
Yup, sound like he was using op to hurt her mom which in the end ended up hurting op more than anybody.
Story 2: Hol' up, so the brother KNEW Erica would repeatedly make false claims to his girlfriend about him being inappropriate around her, yet didn't think twice about taking her side when she accused oop of SA? Nah, it sounds like brother is an effing coward, and oop needs to make it clear they will have no relationship until Erica is GONE.
S3 nta its your business you owe no explanation at all
8:36 for the second story. The time stamp doesn't work.
8:36 for s2
8:37 second story begins
He’s gonna ask her to donate part of her liver
Name: Evelyn.
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My allowance: 10 2000 a month
I'm at the point of believing that SA or DV should not be punitive crimes, if you're willing to use a law that's meant to protect you as a weapon then whatever that law intended tor protect you from is not that serious.
The problem is not with the law, but how it is used. The problem is that due process and innocent until proven guilty, is set aside for certain crimes due to political reasons. And whenever politics goes above justice, then there is no longer any justice.
@@nehcrum which I would use as an argument to decriminalize them, I don't condone them but they're clearly not that big a deal if people falsely accuse others for their benefit.
@@vaxel0068 Which will not work, as you said, they accuse others for their benefit, so if that crime no longer works, they will just accuse them of something else.
Combine thqt with the fact that most who are unjustly accused of SA never go to trial and is punished by the people around them, Which will still be an issue even if decriminalized.
@@nehcrum then move the needle until every law that can be used as a weapon for one's own benefit is decriminalized. Real victims either have something to say about it and complain or they don't and comply which will just make the point that it wasn't a big deal in the first place.
@@vaxel0068 Real victims of SA and DV will have something to say about abolishing those laws. But what you want is anarchy, where there are no laws, as all laws can be politicized and used as a weapon for one's own benefit.
And that only creates a situation where the very same people will use the absence of laws for their own benefit.
The fact that some laws work bad doesn't mean you remove the laws. It means you fix them so that they work right.
15:33 obviously, he lives in the USA. There's thousands of innocent guys sitting in a jail cell because of a victim's word only. Presumed guilty is the new norm.
Story 1 for livercancer you can't have a transplant only for liverciroses you can. So a fake story.
Story 2 bless that lady detective
Story 2: Guilty till proven Innocent. Especially with Women ☕️
Fix your timestamps. #fail
OP is a coward for continuing to allow interaction between herself and her father...SMH
The update will be a PLOY to get her organ
8:40
These stories are clearly fake snd were written as rage bait for views
Last posts plan for how and when do telk tgeir kud theyre adopted is the most fucked up therapy inducing plan ever. This is why you need to work closely with social services when adopting
Story #2: Men that still stand by a woman that falsely accuses another man of SA will always confuse me because they’ve fallen victim to that same form of crazy one way or another throughout the relationship. There’s no way all that could have stay contained within herself without breaking out a few times. Eventually allowing it to spreading towards innocent bystanders of the relationship…your own brother…and he’s still in a relationship with her after the truth came out? Easy decision, NC.🫠
If she can say his brother did it, she can say he did it. That brother a massive idiot at best, and if he's not dropping her over this he's a pathetic doormat with no moral backbone. If I were in a relationship with someone and I found out they'd lied about something like that, we'd be done then and there. I'd record dropping her and all future interactions afterwards too.