I was already drooling over this kit before but after watching this, oh man there is a puddle on the floor. Thank you Fran for taking a look at it. Have a great day and thanks for sharing.
Wait wait wait...so all those years when I was modifying Everest 10's, Rockslides, etc and finally my JDM Yokomo MOA Challenger and all the scale guys were saying "Get out of those TVP (Twin Vertical Plate) rigs" as they used to be called they were really saying "we wish we had what you have?" Sigh...the more things change. LOL Good news is I still have all of them, including the Yokomo (One of my all time favs.) sitting on a shelf. I can be the cool kid again. lol
Looking forward to getting one. Many full size crawlers use axle mounted steering. They use full hydraulic steering which is mounted to the axle and only has hydraulic lines running to the ram.
This is exactly what I am looking for.. like you said for us guys that don’t live in USA, it very expensive to buy all the different parts for a belly dragger. And buying this you don’t make any mistakes and have to order again. Because it’s all there👌🏻
Really cool to see Axial pushing for this format and looks like a lot of the design work thats been developed in the custom world is making it into "mainstream". A good mix of performance and scale. I actually think it's a great intro to LCG style rigs and may even inspire new style of crawling, different formats of comps. Curious to see what the dimensions are for the FMM holes, if they used the TGH pattern. This kind of support may encourage shared standards like how we see in other RC formats: touring car, drift, 8th and 10th scale offroad/onroad. It could be a sign of innovation to come. Need one! Great vid!
Nice to see a comp-style rig being released by Axial. Very cool that Axial will have a wide selection of upgrades available. My only gripe - selectable overdrive is not legal in most comps and Axial could have simplified the gearbox and removed a lot of weight. I know Vanquish has the VFD but the VS4-10 is not a comp-style rig. Still, exciting to see Axial go down this road!👍
@@RCReviewChannel The "nightmare" is a blast to me. Sourcing the correct part from looking at a picture and reading a crappy description by cool guys that aren't marketing or technical guys 👍👍👍😂🤣
There are real 1:1 vehicles with steering on the axles, but it’s hydraulically driven. They have rams on the axles of a lot of rock crawlers so they don’t have pitman arms or tie rods. No bump steer. No links to bend. It’s crazy strong but hard to replicate in 1:10 scale.
Yeah I'll be honest I don't see anything expensive in the R/C crawling, almost all R/C is pretty affordable really....as someone said most R/C people are CHEAP...I agree with you bud👍👍
A big thing will be LHS don't sell G-Speed, Negative-G, CCW, etc,..they sell big name brands and that will help people who are unsure what to get. Most LCG brands don't have websites that are all that great or clear about what is needed.
this style has been around a long time but it will stay more of a niche field since just like other designs that try to push more performance, they offer better performance on the rocks at the cost of the stock truck look. Many people love the crawler scene because the cars/trucks look like the real thing. This is why offerings like the Bomber from axial dont really do that well in sales, yes they might perform better but you cant put a c10 body on it and make it look like that truck u had back in high school. Most arent gunning for that top spot at the tournament but instead enjoy the customization in terms of looks and yes trying to increase performance WITHOUT sacrificing that real world look and feel.
My guy it’s a comp rig not a scale rig. It’s designed to push performance…. Not scale… no intentions of scale in this rig at all so don’t expect scale features.
Hi Francis, great vehicle and video. I was listening to you talk about the scx10 pro while presenting a gspeed built, started thinking you and myself weren't making any sense
Rrrrright. I'm proud of exposing folks to different areas of the hobby. And then let them make a good decision for themselves whether to get addicted or not :)
To be honest a skid plate… sliders… panhard mount and chassis frames cost over 100 bucks already… and that’s a packaged kit… for 430 it isn’t too bad. Axles alone can cost you half that. Price out a a cheater rig by individual then compare.
Great video! THank you! However, real life rock crawlers do have hydraulic on axle steering and not mounted up on the frame. So mounting your servo on the axle is real life like! :)
Couple examples are "the world's largest off-road wrecker" on Matt's off-road recovery channel, or the rudicon on RAD-Rudy's adventure and design channel. Also happen to be fun channels to watch and do a lot of actual crawling around sand hollow rescuing people.
Hi, are you driving the original shocks? Are the red Springs stronger than the original and wich one are these springs? And iam looking vor shock strut, wich one is it and were can i buy it? Thanks a lot Cool video Andreas
Was thinking about grabbing the Vanquish VS4-10 RTR, but this is looking more like what I want to get. I don't want to put you on the spot Francis, but which would you choose if you could only get one?,,, T.Y.
Love your videos. So I have a head scratcher question for you. I'm building a 10.2 chassis with 10.3 straight axles, with a soa setup. I havea treal lcg skid installed. Wouls you think I can run PRO soa links with it? Thanks in Advance.
@@RCReviewChannel the price won't likely drop for a long time, maybe if we're lucky we'll get a holiday sale. Having built a few LCG rigs myself, I'd say this is a great entry for most hobbyists into this market. As you said well, the engineering is done and you don't need to understand suspension systems and geometry to jump in one. Last fully built gecko I saw for sale near me went for almost $2k 😳
Good question... because it can. Two X-factors: - you need the tech terrain available. And in the normal courses, you might see dozens of new lines were impossible. - the group you crawl with. If everyone has trail trucks, you'll get bored. But if everyone has Low CG's, it's on!
I appreciate the desugn and engineering that goes into this, but $430 is far too much imo. Ftx make an rtr crawler that works really well for $120, not the same quality, but it really does work and makes the thousands of dollars needed to complete this build seem absurd. Prices have gotten out of hand and I would love to see brands that are bold enough to try and reverse that trend.
It's all about quality and construction too right? This seems much better built than a Basecamp. Also, there are a lot of engineering and tooling costs with a new ground-up design.
Thought I saw some stuff from Axial that it has placed or won several comps already before the release to the public. If so, probably pretty good right out of the gate too start.
@ShadeTree RC once rcs get too bad they never look new again so alot my rcs I won't even use in my yard or just except get money's worth and than its wrap especially the arrmas one good thing about Traxxas or plastic rcs in general
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So glad its not Rtr.
A real kit for competition.
I love it.
They hit the right mark at the right time. Bravo.
I was already drooling over this kit before but after watching this, oh man there is a puddle on the floor. Thank you Fran for taking a look at it. Have a great day and thanks for sharing.
Wait wait wait...so all those years when I was modifying Everest 10's, Rockslides, etc and finally my JDM Yokomo MOA Challenger and all the scale guys were saying "Get out of those TVP (Twin Vertical Plate) rigs" as they used to be called they were really saying "we wish we had what you have?" Sigh...the more things change. LOL Good news is I still have all of them, including the Yokomo (One of my all time favs.) sitting on a shelf. I can be the cool kid again. lol
Looking forward to getting one. Many full size crawlers use axle mounted steering. They use full hydraulic steering which is mounted to the axle and only has hydraulic lines running to the ram.
good info!!
Best channel. Every minute is useful. Low fluff.
This is exactly what I am looking for.. like you said for us guys that don’t live in USA, it very expensive to buy all the different parts for a belly dragger.
And buying this you don’t make any mistakes and have to order again. Because it’s all there👌🏻
Really cool to see Axial pushing for this format and looks like a lot of the design work thats been developed in the custom world is making it into "mainstream". A good mix of performance and scale. I actually think it's a great intro to LCG style rigs and may even inspire new style of crawling, different formats of comps.
Curious to see what the dimensions are for the FMM holes, if they used the TGH pattern. This kind of support may encourage shared standards like how we see in other RC formats: touring car, drift, 8th and 10th scale offroad/onroad. It could be a sign of innovation to come. Need one! Great vid!
Nice to see a comp-style rig being released by Axial. Very cool that Axial will have a wide selection of upgrades available. My only gripe - selectable overdrive is not legal in most comps and Axial could have simplified the gearbox and removed a lot of weight. I know Vanquish has the VFD but the VS4-10 is not a comp-style rig. Still, exciting to see Axial go down this road!👍
I just enjoy building them...putting a belly dragger together from scratch is a puzzle that a blast.
Good, good. That will still be an option moving forward. Gotta admit though, that was a nightmare during the supply chain lockdown!
@@RCReviewChannel The "nightmare" is a blast to me. Sourcing the correct part from looking at a picture and reading a crappy description by cool guys that aren't marketing or technical guys 👍👍👍😂🤣
I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos!
Right on. This one was not easy since I just heard about it this morning and had to research it quickly!!!
Really like those shocks and axles. I am super excited for this release. I didn't expect to see this coming from Axial.
This is what they do well and the timing is right. I hope they gain much success.
There are real 1:1 vehicles with steering on the axles, but it’s hydraulically driven. They have rams on the axles of a lot of rock crawlers so they don’t have pitman arms or tie rods. No bump steer. No links to bend. It’s crazy strong but hard to replicate in 1:10 scale.
great info.
Maraming salamat sa inyong paliwanag!
I don’t see how people think it’s high on price when the axles will sale for $250 easy
That’s a great point indeed
RC guys are cheap compared to other hobbies lol
I think the problem is the amazing deal that was released yesterday 😂
Yeah I'll be honest I don't see anything expensive in the R/C crawling, almost all R/C is pretty affordable really....as someone said most R/C people are CHEAP...I agree with you bud👍👍
Especially crawlers lol so cheap deep pockets and short arms .
ive not wanted a new rc in a while, this is great!
I've seen this truck podium a lot. Got second at nationals and 1st at the clash of the four cardinals
Awesome looking truck.
I still run my SCX10 Version1
A big thing will be LHS don't sell G-Speed, Negative-G, CCW, etc,..they sell big name brands and that will help people who are unsure what to get. Most LCG brands don't have websites that are all that great or clear about what is needed.
Exactly. There is a gaping hole in the market looking to get filled.
Your Awesome!! I missed you my man! 🤘💪✨🏆✨
this style has been around a long time but it will stay more of a niche field since just like other designs that try to push more performance, they offer better performance on the rocks at the cost of the stock truck look. Many people love the crawler scene because the cars/trucks look like the real thing. This is why offerings like the Bomber from axial dont really do that well in sales, yes they might perform better but you cant put a c10 body on it and make it look like that truck u had back in high school. Most arent gunning for that top spot at the tournament but instead enjoy the customization in terms of looks and yes trying to increase performance WITHOUT sacrificing that real world look and feel.
Truth bomb!
True but not with guys who just crawl
I like both, cheater belly draggers and scalers. It's like 2 hobbies in one. Performance and life like doll houses on wheels
My guy it’s a comp rig not a scale rig. It’s designed to push performance…. Not scale… no intentions of scale in this rig at all so don’t expect scale features.
I am hoping this is start to move away from scale , across the board. Back performance overlooks.
Great video. I saw the release today and didn't think much of it, now I want it, lol. looks like fun!
Hi Francis, great vehicle and video. I was listening to you talk about the scx10 pro while presenting a gspeed built, started thinking you and myself weren't making any sense
That was a prop. Stage trick :)
nice i was just sent this model to check out looks very good. Any electronics recommendations?
I've just completed that kit, still needs a body but it's ready to crawl
Hello, great video. What kind of chasis are you showing? best regards
I'm not into this vehicle at all for the price they're charging, but you're still one of my favorite RUclips channels Frances, keep it up
Rrrrright. I'm proud of exposing folks to different areas of the hobby. And then let them make a good decision for themselves whether to get addicted or not :)
To be honest a skid plate… sliders… panhard mount and chassis frames cost over 100 bucks already… and that’s a packaged kit… for 430 it isn’t too bad. Axles alone can cost you half that. Price out a a cheater rig by individual then compare.
Yes in real life rock crawlers do have hydraulic rams to steer a 4 link. Just like a axle mounted servo.
I'd also bet since the axles are so modular they'll have portal hubs that can bolt right on those housings.
Absolutely!
@RCReviewChannel hahah i was right! They've just been so damn slow...
Great video! THank you! However, real life rock crawlers do have hydraulic on axle steering and not mounted up on the frame. So mounting your servo on the axle is real life like! :)
That is awesome to know!!!
Couple examples are "the world's largest off-road wrecker" on Matt's off-road recovery channel, or the rudicon on RAD-Rudy's adventure and design channel. Also happen to be fun channels to watch and do a lot of actual crawling around sand hollow rescuing people.
Hi, are you driving the original shocks? Are the red Springs stronger than the original and wich one are these springs? And iam looking vor shock strut, wich one is it and were can i buy it? Thanks a lot
Cool video
Andreas
The sliders can be taken apart to make them short like a regular sliders
Yeah, looks like two layers of side sliders. Can cut too of course.
@RC Review yep 2 layers to start with and then of course you know we will cut them down to fit what we need!
Was thinking about grabbing the Vanquish VS4-10 RTR, but this is looking more like what I want to get. I don't want to put you on the spot Francis, but which would you choose if you could only get one?,,, T.Y.
really cool car but the price it commands its a bit rich once complete. i'd expect front/rear lockout digs as an option.... miss my losi comp crawler
It’s a game changer!!
It really is.
@@themountain59 its already won sorrca events over the past year.
I do enjoy your videos, another good one especially as you haven't got one yet
Right?? I had to dig deep to make compelling content out of thin air.... in an hour!
Sup France, great review as always Brotha
Thanks bud!
you have portal axles but the one i see for sale has straight, did you upgrade your ends or did you get a different kit?
Love your videos. So I have a head scratcher question for you. I'm building a 10.2 chassis with 10.3 straight axles, with a soa setup. I havea treal lcg skid installed. Wouls you think I can run PRO soa links with it? Thanks in Advance.
Ooooh, I don't know the answer to that. I hope others can CHIME IN and help out.
It did great at the nationals was just a prototype
You make a lot good points.
Thank you. I’m not the expert, but I wanted to give context to prospective buyers on the different choices involved.
Not a terrible price, most guys pay half that for a frame and skid
Exactly. And the key is that it’s a dial solution with a lot of engineering work put in. Hopefully the cells well and the price goes down eventually.
@@RCReviewChannel the price won't likely drop for a long time, maybe if we're lucky we'll get a holiday sale. Having built a few LCG rigs myself, I'd say this is a great entry for most hobbyists into this market. As you said well, the engineering is done and you don't need to understand suspension systems and geometry to jump in one. Last fully built gecko I saw for sale near me went for almost $2k 😳
Freakin Sweet
Right??
Steering on axle is hydraulic for scale
I thought it was selectable underdrive on the rear axle.
You are correct. Over- under ... same thing, it just drops the gear ratio instead of raising it.
I hope Redcat is paying attention...
Yeah, Redcat and Element RC seem like the likely competitors in this category.
Is it so good it would become boring quickly ?
Good question... because it can. Two X-factors:
- you need the tech terrain available. And in the normal courses, you might see dozens of new lines were impossible.
- the group you crawl with. If everyone has trail trucks, you'll get bored. But if everyone has Low CG's, it's on!
Does it come assembled as slider you we need to build it?
It will come as a kit initially so you put it together.
Just saying tons of off road vehicles have hydro steering right on the axle, which isn't too hard to achieve with our rigs.
Great info, thank you!
Nice 😎
This comes in a small package not assembled
Yes, this comes as a kit
I already built a belly dragger years ago. I will pass. Did not cost me over 300.
I appreciate the desugn and engineering that goes into this, but $430 is far too much imo. Ftx make an rtr crawler that works really well for $120, not the same quality, but it really does work and makes the thousands of dollars needed to complete this build seem absurd.
Prices have gotten out of hand and I would love to see brands that are bold enough to try and reverse that trend.
You should really consider putting time codes in your videos.
Rather buy a vanquish rtr or kit.
True, but this is not really in the same category as a Vanquish, since this is an lcg comp crawler
I just hope this doesn’t replace the 10.2 Raw Builders Kit. I love my 10.2 kits with Rock Pirates add ons.
Comp rigs are not for everyone and that’s ok
Here's a great review with lots of driving footage: ruclips.net/video/PhNERUomRPM/видео.html
much thanks. Test team, that guy!
We use the same trails. But I think he hid from us when testing.
I'd like to point out one thing that is not correct when you said "there is NO real vehicle with axle mounted steering system". Sure there is....
No way to know if it's overpriced or worth it until people run it and figure out what needs to stay or upgrade...
It's all about quality and construction too right? This seems much better built than a Basecamp. Also, there are a lot of engineering and tooling costs with a new ground-up design.
Thought I saw some stuff from Axial that it has placed or won several comps already before the release to the public. If so, probably pretty good right out of the gate too start.
I don't know why people think the pro is expensive. You can't put together a slider cheaper then this unless you buy Amazon garbage
Yeah, I think folks just don't know. So much time and energy saved too hunting and tuning and making mistakes when piecing together.
smexy....just built a belly..scxiii all the stuff....
Very cool.
Under drive
ten THINS? 🤣
Fixed! Thank you
nope nope nope i already have a belly dragger....crap
:) right? Maybe for our friends.
but but my foam filled tires electric steered battery powered lexan body chevy wont be 'scale' 😁🤡😆
What's up shade I haven't crawled in a minute .. just live in worst place for outdoor stuff like that I make make Capra a mud truck 😆
@@paulclancy2404 i got me a bully 2 i been playing a lot with it man that and building a homemade dozer but mostly staying in due to the dam mud lol
@ShadeTree RC what a bully 2 crawler ? Yea I have same problem and I have small house with. All white floors even driveways not paved lol
@ShadeTree RC once rcs get too bad they never look new again so alot my rcs I won't even use in my yard or just except get money's worth and than its wrap especially the arrmas one good thing about Traxxas or plastic rcs in general
Or wait to dam ground freezes
1st
Well done!
I just love your channel more and more everytime I watch a new vid. Keep it going man!
I keep grinding everyday. :)