Neil Tyson and Bill Nye on "Interstellar" and the Environment
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Spoiler Alert: In our latest “How Tweet It Is” video, Neil deGrasse Tyson and Bill Nye discuss one of Neil’s tweets about the “Mysteries of Interstellar: Can't imagine a future where escaping Earth via a wormhole is a better plan than just fixing Earth.” While neither disagrees that a worldwide environmental blight could happen, it’s what we do about it that was less believable. Or, as Bill says, “Why leave the freaking Earth, people? This is where we make our stand.” Plus, find out “a little more somethin’ somethin’” about another one of Bill’s problems with the movie.
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I love these guys and could listen to them chat all day. Wish cinema sins had told me about it before today haha
Thank you CinemaSins for bringing me here!
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I love that one of Bill's major complaints is the lack of boning Anne Hathaway
+SciFiMisc He wasn't talking about boning her, you idiot. The little more "something something" he refers to is more information, more data, like real scientists do. In the movie McConaughey's character pretty much jumps into the spaceship on a life-changing mission without much thought or information or even training.
^ no.
+Mary hey, if I'm going to spend 72 relativistic years with Anne Hathaway, I'd bone her too.
+Mary yeah, no.
+Mary ...no...you're currently the one being an idiot.
CinemaSins brought me here
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in CinemaSins fashion... Bill Nye Should be on CinemaSins
Mystery of interstellar: in a world where we struggle to make crops, why do we run over so much corn and set more of it on fire?
Because of the blight🤓
I think at the end of the movie they were on a rotating space station, not a moon of Saturn, which explained the weird construction. But I agree, if you have the technological capability to transport billions of people off of Earth, you certainly have whatever it takes to fix the climate or whatever is causing trouble.
+QuantumBraced Well yea. At least 30 minutes of the movie were about how they were going to lift the structure on earth using the gravity equation. I don't see why there is confusion about this if you watched the movie mildly carefully. (Not saying you didn't)
+QuantumBraced "if you have the technological capability to transport billions of people off of Earth, you certainly have whatever it takes to fix the climate or whatever is causing trouble."
I completely disagree. Or at least I disagree that this is obvious. Right now we have the technology to send a spaceship to Pluto, but we don't have the technology to (as an example) wipe out or even cure the Flu, nor have we cracked nuclear fusion. The amount of development in one area of technology or science in no way predicts what other technological or scientific advancements will happen in the same time period.
On the other hand, we're able to terraform an entirely new planet but not fix Earth? I find that much harder to believe (as I'd have thought that the technology needed to make the new planet habitable would be similar to the technology needed to fix Earth).
+Pete Burgess as a side note, earthlings know the wormhole was PLACED there by a higher intelligence. I think the idea of trusting this unknown benefactor and to believe they are helping us is a crucial point of the movie as well, and the overall decision of leaving is not taking without believing there is a better solution out there.
I think the idea of terraforming mars is also complicated, since it would take many generations, i think. So finding habitable worlds might be actually the best posible outcome.
They were near a moon of Saturn
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Filmwise, would you rather see a movie about sceintists developing blight resistant crops or one with Matthew McConaughey kicking ass in space?
I'll find both equally interesting.
Exactly....shut up, Bill and enjoy the movie!
Man. I still wish the full podcasts were in video here on youtube.
+x9x9x9x9x9 where are they now?
+Chaos Order Seems like nowhere. The website only has audio I am pretty sure.
Yeah they don't have full video anywhere its just the podcast that you can find on any podcast player like tunein radio
+x9x9x9x9x9 they're on soundcloud
incdraw *Video* podcasts moron
The people that is hating on Bill because he wanted the movie to be as realistic as possible, why couldn't they just give a better reason to leave the planet?
+Anna Gomez People seem to not understand or miss the reasoning, which was actually quite good in the context of the movie. This blight has been going on for decades, making it impossible to grow food. They've been trying all that time to stop it, to find some way to combat it, and have utterly failed. Their holdout crop of corn is expected to not last all that much longer. Humanity was being literally starved and on its last legs. So leaving was a last ditch effort in order to ensure the survival of the species (because as later revealed they never expected to get anyone off of earth or to solve the gravity problem).
+MrPhilsterable
What is so hard on building green houses where people could live? Earth has right gravity, earth has magnetic field which shields us against radiation, Earth has ozone layer which shields us against ultraviolet light, Earth has tons and tons of water. Stable biosphere is least of our problems. Yeah, blight on our crops would sucks, but we have better technological solutions than taking mankind to another galaxy.
Genetically modified crops. We can made plants to produce spider silk, I think we can figure out crop which would be safe against blight.
Live in big greenhouses. They were already doing it in movie. All those space platforms, could be just normal platforms on Earth.
Making our own blight on blight. This could backfired, but it's still an option.
Artificial climate change.
I mean if they changed that to for example that our core produces weaker and weaker
magnetic field, that is something we don't have ability to fix, then movie would have better impact.
That and sending machines first. Without humans. Kind of like we're doing it now. Because it's better. And after we lose 50 drones. Then we send humans with that “fear of death” attitudes so they can only goes to places which drones marked as safe to check out. Drone doesn't have to fear death to get information on toxicity of atmosphere, gravitational pull or big ass wave destroying it in process.
stafer3 Except the premise of the movie is that we failed. We tried, we failed, and now we are in the last generation before humanity not only starves, but literally suffocates to death.
*****
You can't just say that we failed at this easier thing so we will try this harder thing instead. You need some reason behind that. That would be like saying we couldn’t figure out cars, so we made spacecrafts. This is the same thing like with that big wall around whole Pacific ocean in Pacific Rim, that kind of building achievement in it's scope is harder than any thinkable alternative. But Pacific Rim is about giant fighting robots, so it's minor problem. Interstellar aims higher so those cracks are more obvious.
+OtakuXCore Earth is mainly water, we could extract oxygen from it (although it may prove expensive) or we could just generate it from CO2, like the MOXIE project from NASA to create oxygen in Mars in 2020. Ultimately, if everything fails, we could always build huge metropolitan city size bio domes - which would lead to an Elysium scenario due to being expensive and not enough for all of Earth's population -, each with it's own oxygen and food supply, with protein growing labs (Like the ones in the Dead Space games, there are already lab grown steaks, it just needs an industrial level production, after passing all FDA and taste tests ofc). The space stations at the end of the movie are spacefaring city size biodomes, and blight is not present since it's spread was clearly contained and all onboard crops were isolated from the plague. Evidently, building a non space traveling biodome is easier than a traveling one.
The movie was cool and jaw dropping, but the premise is not feasible, leaving earth is only a real option if the Sun is somehow depleted, which will not happen in a few million years from now.
I disappointed Bill didn't like interstellar. :(, Interstellar is one of the best movies ever made in the science fiction genre while maintaining a level of realism
+Emperor Weisser Yes but he stands for a respectable position that many people oversee. The fact that instead of fixing the problem we tend to abandon ship and move on. Which is basically what happens in Interstellar. Great movie though, I do agree
+N7 The problem wasn't fixable though. When food and air are no longer sustainable on a planetary scale there's really no choice but to abandon ship. "The last people to starve will be the first to suffocate."
+N7 1. It's a movie. Movies need to be interesting. They wanted to make a movie where we left Earth. Why is that so hard to understand?
2. They explicitly said that they couldn't figure out how to stop the blight. And soon it was going to ruin the corn too.
3. It's a movie.
Bill is trying way to hard to criticise a plot decision for no reason. It's called Interstellar for a reason.
Cronos Read your point number 3. Bill didn't like the premise, and his reason is understandable. I enjoyed the movie as well as the plot so I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here.
+Emperor Weisser It's not that he didn't like it, it was an interesting point that people have this idea inculcated into their heads that they can do anything and not worry about the consequences. You see it when we talk about left vs. right abut this vs. that etc. People only talk about how it is, not how they'd want it to be. Why not sit down a bunch of engineers and fix this society from the ground up? Yeah, the movie was awesome for all sorts geeky of reasons. I'd just want to see one where science takes us to a Star Trek like society and is not apocalyptic in nature.
The cornfield chase was an image. It was foreshadowing the journey to come, the wormhole, the cutting through hyperspace. The track that played during that scene was interrupted just as it was about to reach its peak, when Tom almost drove the car off the cliff (this, too, is foreshadowing his later development.) At the very end of the film, the track plays again, and is allowed to finnish, to go all the way up. But you worry about the Anne Hathaway sex, Bill.
Have some imagination mister bill bye. It is a space movie. It wouldn't be right if they spent 3 hours of the movie on earth and fixed the problem.
+Bruce Have some imagination, script writers. If you want your space movie to be acceptable, come up with a better reason to leave the planet in the first place.
+Warmongering Watermelon Thank you. People act like we're never allowed to criticize even poor or lazy writing, that it makes us instantly blind haters who can't enjoy fiction at all. It gets a little ridiculous on both sides of the discussion sometimes...
+Bruce super Asteroid heading to earth is a better reason lol
+GammaZ Tonga What an astoundingly silly argument against valid and constructive criticism. Jurassic World broke records with its profits as well, yet it's an objectively poor movie from many points of view (funnily enough casting its new and yet unproven - one first movie being a success does not equal visionary artist - director for one of the new Star Wars movies simply because whoever is in charge was impressed at the load of money his movie made). The reason for that and why your argument is so weak, is because you believe everyone going to the movies are intellectually capable of understanding, digesting them and judging them according to their merits.
As for your other reply around here about asteroids and terraforming while it's true asteroids can be deflected, the scenario in the movie is not such a dire case as to be in need of terraforming. It is a matter of finding other resources of energy while allowing the planet to regenerate (which it can and will do given the opportunity to be rid of our plague-like behavior), by either temporarily populating nearby orbit with station-based colonies or, as the astrophysicist-backed engineer kindly pointed out in the video above, move to stations based on moons/planets within our own solar system.
Besides that, the whole underground secrecy of the project was ill-conceived no matter their reasoning, because it meant not involving the man-power of the world, a world united by the need to survive, to research and develop a means of ending the issue at hand. Instead they wasted time and effort on a project with incredible instability to save their race on the last stretch.
Don't get me wrong, it was a cinematography masterpiece overall, but it does have its issues no matter how hard you try to ignore them, just as many of this director's works do. It's his thing, ignoring certain logical aspects in favor of the grand.
Good day.
GammaZ get wretched. Now sit down kid.
Cinema Sins brought me here! And @3:08 reminded me of Chocolate Rain lol
"Can't imagine a future where escaping Earth via a wormhole is a better plan than just fixing Earth."
The book, "The Science of Interstellar", explains this by outlining just how far-reaching the consequences of the blight are. Not all of it made it into the final film, making it seem to some like a meaningless threat. Summary of the blight's complete backstory here.
"... and go live on a moon of Saturn where balls fall up?"
I'm honestly surprised at this one. Surely Bill Nye of all people is familiar with the concept of a cylindrical space habitat with centrifugal gravity.
"The corn is gonna sustain all of us, through some sort of genetic modification you get all of your nutrition out of corn..."
Corn isn't the only food left, it's just the last of the major domesticated grains. Recall that Murph was sipping some kind of soft drink at NASA just after the Miller's world scene.
"Why did we drive through the field for 10 minutes..."
The scene only lasts about 1.5 minutes. It's a character-establishing moment showing Cooper's skills & relationship with his kids, and also tells us something about the world they live in. It shows how they're becoming increasingly reliant on repurposing aging technology now that all the mass-production lines are gone.
Bill Nye isn't really a scientist, he is a science advocate. He's also an amateur film critic. Funny that he's bemoaning a film that is trying to do what he does, prop up science and bring space travel into the mainstream. No, it's not 100% realistic, the plot might stretch a bit, but its telling a story. Is the concept of a crystalline rectangle being the origins of intelligence on earth a stretch? Yeah, yet 2001 is one of the greatest sci fi films of all time. Yet another film that does the best it can to get things right while playing with fringe science.
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+MrJeppe313 DON'T! You do not every EVERY question the Monolith.....it created us all you ass!
+MrJeppe313 Well put, and pretty much what I came here to say after seeing the snippet at the end of the cinemasins episode.
+MrJeppe313 Absolutely. So many of the points in this clip and the CInemaSins video are easily explained with a little imagination, common sense and a realisation that this is Hollywood after all (at it's very best). The fact that he thought that they were on a moon and not the space station suggests he didn't really pay sufficient attention to be providing a critique of its faults. Also amazing is saying this "Can't imagine a future where escaping Earth via a wormhole is a better plan than just fixing Earth." REALLY!? Like life on Earth can go on forever?
maulstar1 Exactly. He needs to expand on what he means with "fixing Earth", Maybe fixing Earth isn't a fucking possbility, ever thought about that?
MrJeppe313 negative..nothing is impossible
well, I wanna know why it is easier to go start a colony on a planet orbiting A BLACK HOLE (I'll get back to that) than staying on earth where crops still grow, the air is 100% breathable except for occasional dust storms and it's not even any distance away! now, back to the black hole. Where are those planets orbiting the black hole getting their light and heat? a black hole only emits X-ray and they never mentioned, nor did we see, any stars nearby.
Bill Nye the radio guy!
Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill bill
Science rules
+MrPhilsterable no it should be radio rules
+YoungEducationUSA Bill nye the stony guy xD
Bill, this is a space travel movie. If the premise were to stay and fix the earth, it would be a "fix the Earth" movie.
Also, think about it, if it were possible to travel to a planet with an Earth-like atmosphere and life in it, it is possible that it would take less effort to send people to that planet than to fix ours. Even without the threat of extinction. If such planet were found and somehow a means to get there were discovered we would go. Absolutely we would, just to see what's there. Not to mention that with our species spread over two planets our chances of survival over time would double.
Its a movie. Its science FICTION. If it was supposed to be completely plausible it would be a documentary and not a movie. Its supposed to tell a story not be taken literally. Bill sounds like a dork here
I get the feeling that Bill Nye dint watch the movie properly. He's off with some points.
yah
The end of the movie was Cooper Station a massive colony ship. The reason physics was weird was because it was spinning to create artificial gravity but was just small enough to where a really high pop fly could cross the center and fall up into the other side of the ship. The ship was on route to the wormhole in order to travel to Edmund's planet.
Bill Nye, I'm about to finish a PhD in chemistry and it was all because of you. Thank you so much for being such an influential figure in my life.
They weren't on any planet or moon, they were on a space station using artificial gravity. That space station was orbiting Jupiter I believe, but that had nothing to do with it. Seemed completely logical to me.
Dr. Brand was on a new planet or moon at the end when coop steals the ship from the space station to go find her....
well duh, but thats not what they are talking about.
They entered a wormhole that was supposably on Saturn. Which is suppose to be that storm on Saturn that’s infinite, if you look at Saturn there’s like a tornado looking thing and that’s where they supposably entered
At the end, they were on a an O'Neill Cylinder you goofs lmao. Not a moon of Saturn. Wtf? lmao.
no, no, they just visited Elisium
I believe the reason they took down the drone in the beginning was to extract the battery and use it for hardware on his cornfield. Thats why he said it needed to "adapt"
Full episode please!
+Arm77NLa I'm sure it's on itunes.
+SatanistSin Some people don't do iThings.
TheRipler sucks for you then.
+Arm77NLa the show is full on their souncroud.just search star talk radio on soundcloud and it should be there
+Arm77NLa As suggested by Minh Le: soundcloud.com/startalk
damn Bill Nye, you got old. But you're still fantastic.
+Duncan Van Ooyen Nah he just stoned af
Bill Nye Grossly misunderstood this movie! That to me is amazing in itself.
You DO know he has a degree in engineering, right? He IS a scientist.
Oh my god! Bill Nye the Science guy! I was like the smartest kid in grade school cause I watched his show. That and the magic school bus . . . . I feel old now. Love Cosmos too. Since I'm already a nerd, might as well admit I love Star Trek while I'm at it.I agree though. Isn't it just easier to colonize Mars? I mean, reading The Martian it seems we're pretty close to having everything we need to do that already. When I walked through NASA Langley , they even had most of the stuff talked about in that book. I saw the airlocks, and the habitats, and suits. Going through a worm hole has so many more risks, like never finding a place that was decent for human kind to settle down on and wasn't inhabitable. The logic makes now sense.
Dr. Tyson you are always welcome on CinemaSins! Loved your guest narration on the sins for Gravity and Interstellar. Hope you come back again sometime and bring Bill with you as well.
Please do a show on the new movie the Martian , thank you
+au jack Will do.
Infact,I don't mind the drone following sequence at all. I thought it was as important as the school encounter with Murphy's teacher and Matt. I like character development and don't mind a 3 hour movie. What I do mind is an undercooked movie with less character development. (P.S-Eventhough I loved the movie,it broke a lot of Physics Laws for ex The Spaghetification when Matt enters The Black Hole)
Funny how apparently they got all of this advanced science right in the movie, but they couldn't get the farming aspect down. We've only been doing it for thousands of years, shouldn't be that hard to do it correctly in the movie.
Thank you CinemaSins for making me aware of this channel! :)
I disagree with Bill on his making this planet livable.Isn't it just a matter of colonizing other earth like planets so human kind can continue to evolve and thrive. Over population and destruction of rain forests is making it harder and harder for food growth. Along with sea-life and oceans being harmed with the amount of garbage being throw into it. If you believe these problems are more likely to be solved then trying to establish a colony on a distant planet, then so be it. But that's why the movie is good. It shows you the obstacles involved in trying something so outrageous.
+TheSacko Then again, you could fire all nuclear weapons, wipe out 95% of the population on earth, and still end up with a planet better suited for colonization than whatever frozen space rock you might find orbiting a black hole.
thank you cinemasins for introducing me to this channel!
Carl Sagan said that civilizations either become spacefaring or they become extinct, and the entire movie is an illustration of this. (Of course, Carl was behind the early, early development of the movie.) If you want to set the movie in the year 1 billion when we need to leave Earth before the Sun expands, you'll run in to problems like "How do we depict life in the year 1 billion?" This way we can have
Matthew McConaughey. Do you hear me?
WE CAN HAVE MATTHEW McCONAUGHEY!!! I believe I have made my point.
Why do I get the feeling that Bill Nye didn't pay much attention to the movie?
Here's a question (albeit it's a little goofy of a question), what do you think of the video game saga known as HALO? Based on what a junkie friend of mine told me, it appears the technology in the video game saga is getting closer and closer to being plausible in our time, as most of the video game's backstory does seem to match our own. What do you think of it? Is the technology getting within our reach? Or is this purely 100% fiction that has no merit at all? Again, I know it's a goofy question to ask, but I was just very curious.
Would watch a lot more if they were full episodes. js
First of all. It's a movie. Not a documentary. Sometimes I think these guys don't really try to get into films cause they are so high on their platform that they won't let go. Neil at least tries to become part of the films. Bill just sits there. Doest like one thing, Instant crap movie. You'd think a scientist could open his mind a little. Oh he's the engineer scientist? ..... That's why.
I don't really see what's so confusing about it. Yeah some things don't work. But who cares. Also that thing about the drone. It's called showing the audience what the main character knows. So we can see that he is different from the surroundings he has well.. Surrounded himself in.
Interstellar was a bloody stupid movie.. Much to long.. the science was overhyped and the plot not logical. Did Thorne elaborate how "love" was a force of nature at all? Stupid movie..
It's nitpicking like this that's makes me think that people of the future will lose interest in movies. Yes, there was little to no explanation to why they had to leave Earth, which I was also questioning for a while. But the movie delivered amazing visuals, drama and fictional story-telling that had me compelled to it regardless of the science I knew was wrong.
Seems like no movie will ever satisfy people's needs because more and more money and time is required to increase its quality. Maybe we need to travel through a black-hole and hope we're not bound by time to spend centuries making a movie that we'd like, and then we'll watch once and no movie would be interesting to us anymore.
I love Mr.Tyson, and i love the movie Interstellar. I saw it 40 times in theatre religiously every night. I honestly want to ask every theoretical physicist on this planet the question - If all of you physicists came together and made a scifi flick, Do you honestly think you will be able to sit for 3hrs and watch it ?
I am an Assist.Director in india, an aspiring film maker and there is a reason why i respect people like James Cameron and Christopher Nolan. Once i wanted to hit space and see the universe as a child, shit teachers drove me further away from subjects i found hard. I was centuming biology but was hitting the deck with physics and mathematics. And the harder it got further i went. Later career explorations and choices obviously went the other way .
Sitting in theatre watching Endurance crossing saturn so huge, looming in the background .. i wept the first time i saw it , i was in awe like a boxer puppy tilting my head in angles to just absorb that wormhole. And yes i cried again looking at Gargantua up close, and it reminded me that probably in this lifetime this is s good as its going to get for an average person like me. this is as close to saturn , a wormhole and a black hole i'm going to get in this life, and i was brimming with gratitude for just the fact that somebody thought of doing this and i got to see it and all of them woven into this beautiful plot. That's when i decided i'm gonna watch it everyday from now on till it was in theatre. And that night i went back and started downloading all the highschool Physics and mathematics textbooks and have started studying them again. Trigonometry and Algebra are still f**king intimidating but i'm slowly getting there.
Basically this movie is inspiring to a 30year old bum like me imagine what it could do for kids these days. If this movie can inspire few more kids ask for a telescope instead of xboxes then it has served its purpose.
I am probably never going to find or invent anything, i am never going to win a nobel prize but still reconnected to my childhood love.
I really don't get what Bill Nye is whining about. That premise inculcates nothing into people's minds. Do we need to be more sensitive and responsible towards our planet, ofcourse yes, infact what it delivers is keep on going like this this is how you might probably end up. The movie is about a last resort situation, where humanity's wastefulness over irrelevant technology " 6 billion people trying to have it all " has brought earth to its brink. Endorsing this film doesn't mean humanity is giving a giant middle finger to planet earth, in fact it deters them from doing so.
Well one day the Earth will not be habitable no matter what we do, so we better start making plans for living other places. Even if Earth is in perfect order, Earth will loss the habitable zone eventually.
Interstellar script was heavily modified, earlier it had antagonist role for the Chinese, the drone was also part of it. In newer script narrative of the film also changed.
Drone exists in the script to give an perspective of the scenario, where a high tech drone is still flying after it's control center has been shut down decade ago, and only Coop who is a former NASA pilot recognizes it.. marks downfall of age of science.
Why Indian drone? Because India seems to be making breakthroughs in science and technology with very limited resources and capacity. The drone interface is also in Sanskrit, not in English.. It may be director's way of telling that in age of science emerging powers will be able to break conventions.
Mysteries of Interstellar:
First they launch from Earth using more or less a conventional multi-stage rocket. Then they go on to land on and launch from other planets with a single stage infinite fuel impossible shuttle. A shuttle that is even able to enter and exit orbit around a black hole with such a strong gravity that the time dilation factor is 7 years to an hour. That is a lorentz factor of over 60000, or in other words the potential energy difference in that gravity well is so enormous that when converted to kinetic energy it will take you to above 0.9999999998 times the speed of light. Remind me, what was their problem evacuating from Earth's gravity when they have such magic shuttles to begin with?
Its a sci fi movie lol. The plot isnt meant to be taken literally, its meant to tell a story and make the viewers experience a wide range of emotions by getting invested in said story, just like every other piece of fiction that exists be it movies, tv shows, music, poems or books,
@@nopeteys2424 You would have been right if they did not go on their "Science of Interstellar" publicity stunt with Kip Thorne and all that jazz. But now with its higher claims it deserves higher scrutiny for its failures.
of course it is unrealistic to try to escape earth instead of fixing earth but the plan was never to "escape earth" that was just what they told the astronauts to make them do the mission the real plan was to start from scratch with the egg thing so they could save the human kind but not the humans on earth and that might were well have been easier then fixing earth
I loved Neal's astute observation at the end where he highlights the dangers of digital clipping. Two spaghettified thumbs up!
Just for one moment...it struck me...Bill Nye (The Science guy) and Neil DeGrasse Tyson siting across a table talking about space on an entertaining radio show...
MY GOODNESS AM I ALIVE IN SOME GOOD TIMES!
The drone scene in the beginning of the film had purpose; they needed to show that cooper knew what he was doing with technology.. Saving "Alfred" and his team the time it would take to teach him all the mumbo jumbo about the spacecraft and how to use it. It was simply added in to save film time in an already looong movie.
Hey Neil and Bill; I love you two BLOWING MY MIND; and your videos! Never stop! :D
They don't leave earth = movie sucks
Science.
As soon as Neil said "This is the battlefield!" I thought it would be awesome if did the voice-over work for Star Wars: Battlefront.
False corn beer is pretty good and is fairly popular.
It’s called science FICTION for a reason
I thought in interstellar that they figured out how to change the physics of gravity on earth, thus saving earth? What's this 'Saturn moon' bit about? Did I miss something.
They were learning how to control gravity so that they could successfully move mass amounts of people from Earth to their new home in those giant space stations. Because it would be impossible to move as many people as they needed in individual rocket ships or smaller space stations.
The saturn moon thing is just a mistake on their part. I think the space-stations were in orbit around saturn when he met up with them in the end. Heading to the wormhole.
Actually, the only way a species can survive in this expanding universe full of mortal planets is to move from one planet to another.
They do say in the movie that they had been trying to genetically engineer corn to live in the blight but that it was all going to die within the next few decades. So there wouldn’t be any corn left.
I know this is old, but was this ever a full episode? Can't find it on all access.
cinemasins brought me here
+Gary Patrick Welcome to the party, pal!
The other dude seems troubled.
It's a good thing you two are part of my favorite people!
god damn, just found this channel
instant subscribed
I loved and respected Bill Nye while he was the "Science Guy" of the '90s. It is unfortunate, he is a massive liberal and constantly shows off his political views that is clearly conflicted and doesn't help America's future or for that matter the world's. Interstellar was a great movie, a brilliant piece of movie art that expanded your mind and your imagination just like Inception did back in 2010 or 2008, I can't remember. Not to mention, it creates discussion on how we should handle the planet in a different approach.
Lol, Bill Nye mentioned the whole "Ghost town" philosophy which is inherently a "southern USA" thing. It is easier to build a house from scratch than rebuild one that's been trashed if money's not an issue. I drove through Alabama once, It seemed like the land owning families would have enough cash to just build another house when the previous one was too full of crap to occupy. Compared to Europe where that's just not an option, not enough vacant land, or Japan where something that has been repaired is more valuable than something pristine & new. I agreed w/ Nye's comment...
For people, including Bill, who are saying "Why couldn't they figure out how to stay on earth?" We have to realize that movies are not like books, there's only so much you can put in a movie so trying to explain everything is not possible. Instead of trying to explain every option that humans tried to fix the blight/stay on earth, it simply implies that ALL options have been exhausted, NOTHING has worked, there is NOTHING left to try. The only thing to do is leave earth, that's it. You can obviously pick on other aspects of the movie, but this is not one of them. I thought it was a cool concept. There's actually two time lines. In the first time line Matt dies in the black hole and all of earths inhabitants. Anne survives on the new planet and restarts the human race. 2nd time line-Some time in the future the new race of people want to save their ancestors on earth so they create a tesseract to protect Matt in the black hole. Since he now survived the black hole he was able to tell his daughter the formula to help them get into space, thus saving their ancestors. But there is a paradox, like, if this wormhole came from a future race of humans how did they survive if the wormhole is what enabled them to exist in the first place? In other words, humans needed the worm hole to survive, but it was sent by a set of humans from the future that could not have been there in the first place without the worm hole.
Relative to this video conversation ... the reason why humans(in the movie) didnt stand their ground with blight...from all the possible crops on earth, all were contaminated except corn...and in the nasa lab(movie) they already had corn infected samples in test, so it was a matter of time until the corn was gone...considering that in the movie this blight breathes hidrogen, and thats the most abundant quimical in our atmosfere, and our food was almost gone, taking in perspective that the blight would grow exponentialy after the last food crops were infected (corn)...going out to another galaxy was such a good plan has , finishing the gravity theory, developing a genetic modified crop type to plant and harvest, or believing religion would save us...in that case, why not do it? all of them?
With all due respect, it seems to me Bill didn't even understand the movie. Neil had to explain to him what happened in Saturn, and he has this "meh" attitude like "i was dragged to watch it against my will". He is even like "oh!, it has a book explaining the science behind it?, oh ok (meh again)".
I agree the idea of a locust civilization moving from one planet to another instead of fixing their mess is terrible, but the plot settings is: blight hitted hard and quick, leaving the governments worldwide powerless, and even their fancy military and useless stuff was left unmanaged (that's why they are "10 minutes" into a corn field chasing after that Indian drone). With no governments there cant be coordination, then cant be made a large scale "fix it" situation.
Their desperation is so big that they decide to try to go to a wormhole put there by "who knows?" (and since those are not gerenated that big naturally, it can be assumed it is a life saver or a welcome invitation from some fancy alien civilization).
If He didn't like the movie because he didnt believe the premise, it's ok. But as a science preacher, he must admit this kind of hardcore based science movies are not common and are necessary so people start to grasp it's true complexity (and awesomeness--- best blackhole everrr), instead of having "pew pew - boom" sterile blockbusters.
I am supprised that Dr. Tyson does not recognize that in the end we will have to abandon Earth as the Sun expands and then dies. Yes, that is a question of billions of years and until then "fixing" the Earth is the only option, but we can imagine a situation where simply living more sustainablly is not the answer. The film is a "what if" scenerio, not a planning document. (admission, I have not seen it yet.)
I think the movie makes the point that humans have already fucked up too much on earth to the point where there's no coming back. I agree it makes more sense to try to fix it, but what if we're so arrogant and focused on other things (wars, for example, which the movie implies with the Indian drone) that our best option is to escape? Also remember the wormhole wasn't put there by humans, we sorta "found" it. So it wasn't like a huge amount of effort was put into building a wormhole in the first place, but rather "we're fucked and we found a wormhole, so what do we do?".
I think Bill didn't get the movie, the Earth was fixed by Murph, and the solar system was explored in depth, also.
I honestly just thought they went through the worm hole because they figured it mist be a better option as it was basically handed to them by an advanced species.... and no that species isn't human if they evolve into 4 or 5 dimensional creatures... if that's even possible, another problem with the movie
That there are people in the back looking in through a window seemed odd the whole time. Also, today I learned that Bill Nye thinks women are sex toys. Maybe everyone needs something to be a prick about.
Thought these guys were supposed to be intelligent? Bill Nye is not a scientist nor does he seem to be able to pay enough attention to a film to realise that all of the "plot holes" he discusses were explained in the movie.
To quote someone from Reddit "Funny that he's bemoaning a film that is trying to do what he does, prop up science and bring space travel into the mainstream."
bill its a movie!!!! geeeeez
I originally visited here because of CinemaSins, but I now believe Bill Nye should have been the person for the interstellar video.
I liked the movie, but have to agree about fixing Earth vs. going somewhere new. And that is the major flaw in so many movies and ideas.
I think the drone was meant to be a cryptic reference to the monoliths from 2001: A Space Odyssey.
well it is evident that Neil Degrasse Tyson didn't get to be such a famed astronomer and physicist on his intelligence alone, but also his irritatingly convincing debating skills.
I'm very late on this but 10 years ago my uncle wrote a script called Fear and Nova. It was how a man tried to create tunnels with black holes all the way to gleise 182. Once he does that he goes over to a planet called nova. Oh also the man had a daughter. So this planet was very good for humans to live on so what happened was they set up everything there and then the man collects a rock. He goes back to earth and sees that his daughter is in a death bed and older than him. He pulls out the rock that she asked for from the habitable planet and he gave it to her yea my mind is blown
It's a movie..!Godzilla was a movie we didn't think that practical..
A giant speaking about (what later became) Interstellar: ruclips.net/video/PQ4qBBWv3b4/видео.htmlm48s
The drone played an important role in the original draft...
And Anne Hathaway's character had sex in the original draft
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Although Nye has a point on the whole "drone" thing, he's thinking too realistically about this movie.
No it wasn’t a moon of Saturn! They go to the last planet on the list that Anne Hathaway is going to. And he leaves the black hole at the entrance to the wormhole as it collapsed
@StarTalk I hope you are able to one day do an episode on the "3 body problem" novel or its tv adaptation and explore its science
Of course you can make beer out of corn. You can make beer out of anything. All you need is starch.
In interstellar they escape the gravitational pull of a black hole.HOW?!
Even if we could travel space the government would create a police force and ticket you for doing a space burnout 😂
I don't find it too far fetched that the earth will eventually be uninhabitable by human beings and as we can already see in real time that human beings do not address real problems until after it is too late/something horrible has already happened.
Great video!!! I've always been a huge fan of you both!!! Thank you!!!
I found this channel through cinemasins
i thought the premise was that the sun was dying killing crops with intense radiation and heat. i'm glad i only watched the last 2 hours
That "only corn" thing is one of the reasons for not supporting GMOs, btw, Neil.
Why does bill nye still think he’s a scientist. He had a bachelor’s in engineering. Niel should see him as a joke
Do people (including bill) forget that it’s just a movie lol, not meant to be taken as non fiction
People always get confused on what the 4th dimension is some say it is smell others say it is time i think it is space-time but what is it really and what do u know about it?
Stephen King's The Stand was on the bookshelf, too, lol. So why didn't they?
The space station at the end of Interstellar appeared to be an O'Neill cylinder.
My childhood vs a fucking guy with a brain so large it is the size of the moon