They were disappointed in her more accepting beliefs to the point of mounting tensions at family gatherings, but I don’t think they necessarily hated her. She obviously made Draco very happy, which clearly mattered more to them than anything else by the end of Deathly Hallows; bear in mind that most other pureblood families would have disowned Draco on the spot the moment he married a “blood traitor” (e.g. Cedrella Black after she married Septimus Weasley), so it speaks volumes that Draco was not only NOT disowned but is implied to have received much-needed support from his parents after Astoria’s death despite their disagreements with her over blood purity.
Ummm guys after the battle of hogwarts they all left the pureblood reliefs behind and lived like a Happy family. Even lucius started accepting the fact muggles and muggle born witches are their equal. They were very happy that their son got a life they couldnt. They didn't hate astoria. They were there for draco when astoria died. They were also impacted by her death. She was like a daughter to them but they stayed strong for their son
He had all the time. How close he was to spare Dumbledore in Half-blood Prince, how he couldn't actually kill anyone. How he didn't want to say anything, when Harry, Ron and Hermiony were captured, he even hestiated with Hermiony who was 'mudblood' for him most of the time. Or the teacher in the beggining of Deatly Hallows. He was scared for his and his parents life, so didn't dare to do a thing. He was a good boy, rised bad and once he understood it, he started to gain his own opinions and search for his own way.
I thought Draco might eventually marry Hermione. That is if Hermione and Ron ever split up. Draco and Hermione being married would certainly add a different dynamic to the Harry Potter story.
@dr103 I think it was because she was rude to tom Felton and was being difficult .( I read that from another comment so I'm not sure if that's true or not)
@@cortanaisawesome5575 yeah that's exactly what I was thinking because they seemed fine when they were together until 2016. but I'm just going off what other people have said which is probably not true.
One of my favorite scenes in the novel when Ron says that's twice we saved your life tonight you two-faced bastard and hits him. But you've changed my view of him well done
I personally never got that part though. Draco was obviously trying to survive and long abandoned the Death Eater's ideals even during the war. I don't think it was a two faced act to try and convince the death eater he was on "his side" so the guy won't kill him. He proved in the manor that he is not on their side.
Draco is certainly not underrated for what he actually is in the story: nl, just a catheliser for the actions Harry takes. his obnoxious behaviour triggered Harry to avoid Slytherin and his failed attemp in killing Dumbledor set in motion the domination of the Elder Wand which in the end proved fatal to Voldemort
“Lost no one important to him.” But Snape was his godfather, was like an uncle and Snape died. So he lost Snape who tried to protect him and was like family. Ps. Also Crabbe dies as well, you can argue he was nothing but a henchman. I don’t entirely think so personally, they grew up together and then he died so it’s someone close to him. But in the movies it’s Goyle.
Snape as Draco's godfather is nowhere stated in the canon, I think it is fanfic whishful thinking, because Harry had Sirius as godfather and someone needed a sense of balance. on the whole the relation between Snape and the Malfoy's is pretty vague, other then that Draco was the only student that did not annoy the hell out of Snape we know nothing, besides that Lucius and Snape both were deatheaters. Don't think there was a cozy monthly Deatheater TeaParty or so. Crabbe and Goyle are more or less introduce being more lackeys then friends and not particulair appreciated by Draco, but likely to be forched upon then because the relation his father had with their fathers. There is however a hint that in one of JKR's scrapbook there was something like friendship between Theodore Nott and Draco, but not much of it reached canon.
@@kamion53, I see your point. But I believe it makes sense as Lucius and Snape were friends which I believe JK has explained before. Lucius was the Prefect when Snape first went to Hogwarts and Lucius sort of took him under his wing. And if Snape was never Draco’s Godfather then I believe Draco saw him as a family member because Snape was there for him a lot. And if Draco never had close relationships with Snape and Crabbe/Goyle their deaths really affected him. They made him realize that he could die during the battle and makes him realize he needs to play safe. But I hear your points.
@@megancashatt Lucius did take Snape under his wing when Snape was Sorted. Lucius being a few years older left Hogwarts before Snape and there is nothing about how close they stayed after Hogwarts. Snape was dirt poor and Lucius filthy rich, they may have been to the same school, but they were of opposite social area's, how long does that then last when their only common ground nl. Voldemort dissappears and it was everybody for him ( her) self. I rather doubt Snape was a regular at the Malfoy Manor in the years it mattered for Draco to coming to know him as a family member. I do hower believe that Draco was told by Lucius if he needed help in Hogwarts he could turn to Snape, more or less in the trend of: "I looked out for Snape when he came to Hogwarts, now it's time for him to pay back that favour." But then again: "that what is not written isn't part of the canon." ( but nice stuff for fanfiction)
yeah but it is canon no matter if people like it or not. If the creator of the universe says any part of it is canon then that's that. Fans can't say what is and isn't canon because the fans didn't create it.
@@etharomar1461 why? Yes....he lost his parents and lived a miserable life until he got to hogwarts. But for drago....he went trough a diffrent kind of abuse.... he always wanted his parents approval especially of his father. Its the „love“ he knows. His only friends consist of a few purebloods whos parents are deatheaters too and who act more like servants than true friends. Everyone expected him to be against muggleborns and bloodtrators... he Never was alllowed to speak freely or to think for himself. Its tragic, really. There is so much depht to his Charakter. Just like ist was with Snape, I truly believe he had the most tragic life out of all of them. He was born in to a highly abusive household (much worse than the dursleys...eventhoug things like that shouldnt be compared). He met a little girl who „befriended“ him after some time (his first friend ever and the first person who was nice to him) but as soon as they got to hogwarts she was taken away from him again and he was lonley again. After all of the ugly incidences with the marauders who bullied him into oblivion just because „he existed“ (james potter really said so....) and even tried to kill him when they were 16. His time at hogwarts was nearly as miserable as his time at home and got only worse after he lost lily as a friend.... especially since he loved lily without all he had. (We probably would too if she was the only one who ever was this nice to us or our only friend) Severus loved her so dearly that he was willing to give his live for her...or her son in this matter. I never thought that he was a pleasant man, but who would care about unnecessary pleasantries and being „nice“ after faith had never showed it to you? He never had a chance to be happy. He was too broken before he even graduated and I think this is a true tragedy. Harry at least had a dozen of friends and was loved by the teachers... he had the weasleys and the order of the Phoenix.... all while draco and especially severus snape had no one to truly talk to or who made them feel loved.
@@michellestella7477 I AM NOT SHOUTING. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT I HAVE NO BAD INTENTIONS 2WARDS ANY 1. THE PROBLEM IS I AM BI-LINGAUL +THINK ,READ +WRITE IN 2 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LANGUAGES. I THINK,READ + WRITE IN ENGLISH+ HEBREW. IN HEBREW UNLIKE ENGLISH THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CAPITAL/SMALL
@@gabinathan5499 We understand but if you write your responses in English you are going have to learn the difference. English has different language rules and that includes capitals and lowercase letters. All caps on the internet comes out as shouting...
@@kathleenabbu8553 Thats neither karma nor justice. You are basically saying because his dad was mean as a child Scorpio deserves to suffer. That doesn't make any sense at all. If Draco himself ended up as orphan that would have been different. But children shouldn't pay for their parents sins.
Apparently Draco was a loving father to Scorpius. Both he and Astoria Greengrass raised Scorpius with love and taught him tolerance towards muggleborns and half bloods.
Rowling: Girls are misguided to fancy Draco Malfoy. He isn't hiding a heart of gold. Also Rowling: btw.. He's a WONDERFUL husband and an AMAZING father..ok bye. Everyone: O.O
I think I read that he was into Alchemy even before his wife's passing. Draco always seemed to like or be good at Potions (probably because of Snape's favoritism too), so I think he just also had an inclination towards Alchemy, or he tried to save his wife through it.
I head canon that prior to meeting Draco, Astoria had little to no social life, mostly due to the amount of rest required to cope with her poor health. Hogwarts curriculum is rather full, so that wouldn't be surprising.
Its interesting that Draco took to alchemy. An art that holds the secret to eternal life and perhaps raising his wife back from the dead. Would be interesting if Scorpius ends up romantically involved with a muggle born sorcerer. How would Draco respond.
Honestly after everything he went through and his wife pushing to to more open minded views I doubt he would really care anymore. Plus I'm pretty sure he ended up dating a witch names Rose by the end of The Cursed Child
Scorpius did ended with the daughter of whom his father as a kid called mudblood that means Scorpius married the daughter of harmione Granger and Ron Weasley , Rose Weasley he ( Scorpius) fell in love with her (rose) at first sight and they ended up together and they produced 3 kids also Draco had no issues with his son's decision to marry Rose Weasley
@@emily9430 yes but you realize harry wasn't either and his name came out fro the goblet lol. i think he means what if someone put dracos name in like they did for harry, and the name actually coming out
I think after Astoria passed away Narsissa would have possibly put her pure-blood believes aside so she could help Draco as well as give Scorpius a maternal figure after the passing of his mother at a young age
I don't know about that, especially since Narcissa Black Malfoy's actress Helen McCrory passed away because of cancer, hence it's also possible Narcissa also dies later in the story in an example of "The Character Died With Him/Her/Them".
He lost his aunt ik she is a psycho but she loved draco enough to accompany her sister to go to snape not following voldys instruction and as we know bellatrix loved Voldemort and very unlike her to do so am sure he was sad .
@@mari-vikiuribe6773 I dont think he really knew her and dont think narissa nor lucius would allow him since she was disowned for marrying a muggleborn
When he said that Draco started looking into Alchemy my Flash fan in me thought of Dr.Alchemy and Zavatar and if you don’t know Dr.Alchemy was played by Tom Felton which is the actor who also plays Draco
Seems to me that the Malfoy family’s loyalty shifted was the moment Voldemort tried to kill Draco by assigning him an impossible task. Edit: Prior to Draco’s birth, both of his parents had nothing irreplaceable to lose. That typically changes when someone has a child.
Hey I have a question. And it makes a great theory idea. Could muggle medicine have helped Astoria live longer? With the help of a dialysis machine or medicine for blood pathogens? Something like that?
Does Draco Malfoy remind anyone else of Zuko from ATLA? Crazy deep redemption arc, seemingly evil but really just wants daddy's love, ends up proving in the end that they have a heart -and a very dedicated one...(& for the nerds, Zuko ends up with his own dragon and, well, we all know what the name Draco translates to)
I felt sorry for Draco and I have no idea what he's going through he has change of heart throughout the years and I care about Draco and his son and I felt bad about both Harry and Draco the boy who lived and the boy who had A wrong choices and muggles heroes and Malfoy's too
I've read cursed child and instantly fell for the malfoy family, they are all so nice in there. Even though cursed child as not as legit as HP, but i really need to know more about astoria
Losing my wife a decade ago on the 21st of this month was the worst thing to happen to me. I’m only 30 and I’m stuck in this pit of sorrow... I can identify with him. I’m annoyed with anyone who flirts with me and I think of my love first thing when I wake up and even dream she’s still able to talk to me! Please someone talk with me! Please I’m starting to crack. I’m sorry to leave this here but this struck a nerve and I need a friend who can understand
I understand. I lost my husband of 40 years, a year ago in August. I understand your pain and sorrow all too well. But you are very young, and in time the pain will heal enough for you to start over again if you choose. But you will never be able to forget your first love. I shall you well.
I know it's not mentioned in any material but wish they bring up the source of the blood curse. And maybe have a storyline of Draco finding a way to remove the curse from Astoria and the Green grass family....
I think Draco would still date other women but wouldn’t marry them, to avoid loneliness in his personal life, especially when scorpius is all grown up. Some parents do that, dating somebody but will never replace their former spouse. I also posted this before, but video was deleted and rendered. I think the Malfoys got off for not just abandoning Voldemort, Nerissa saving Harry but also for testifying against other Death Eaters and telling what happened to Charity Burbage. But Lucius never entered in government affairs again, as he was officially unable to.
According to Pottermore’s article on the Malfoy family, Lucius did indeed testify against the other Death Eaters, and even took it a step further by outing every last remaining Death Eater (presumably including any Death Eaters the Ministry didn’t know about by that point) and even personally helping the Ministry to arrest several of Voldemort’s remaining followers who had gone into hiding.
If I start ehm saying my obsession ur gonna freak. WARNING - THIS WAS BEFORE THE TIKTOK TREND (this happened about 3 years ago) AND I CANT HELP BEING OBSESSED WITH DRACO :3 And btw I’m obsessed with Harry Potter series and have been since I was 2 XD
The cursed child was a great play write and actually didn't feel fan mad even though jk Rowling only wrote the plot and events, great story I loved it, although not as good as the books, they are 2 completely different types of literature
Jo Rowling: I’m going to make Draco the bully! JR: and then ima make him suffer in his last two school years! JR: and then I’m going to take away his redemption scene! JR: but don’t worry! I’m going to give him an amazing life afterward that contains a wife and son! JR: Happy, happy, happy! JR: and THEN I’m going kill of his wife! JR: and make people think his son is Voldemort’s! JR: and I’m transphobic :) JR: and I expect people to respect me. JR: thank you for your tears and frustration! JR:😃😃😃😃
I don't consider cursed child canon because of the errors. But in this part it added to the lore in a good way. It deepened Dracos arc. Draco saw what war did to the world and he regretted it all. And he now tries to do better. Everything is logical (as much as it can be in the franchise)
Wish they would’ve shown a bit more of his interest towards his wife during the last movie at least. He had potential for a nice story but I feel like the writers didn’t go full one with it, they didn’t really made him pick a side. Wish they would’ve showed him changing beliefs.( also I teard up a bit)
I wouldn’t say “The Cursed Child” is THE worst thing. It’s level 2 cannon, and there are other worse things to have happened to HP: The movies changing Ravenclaw’s mascot and colors J.K. Rowling’s transphobia Official Ravenclaw merch not being blue and bronze and not having an egale J.K. Rowling’s severe transphobia Not enough Doby in the movies J.K. Rowling’s transphobia which should be denounced All the things WB left out of GOF J.K. Rowling’s hateful tweets
Draco has always been my favourite character, the quote “the abused becomes the abuser” was made for him. Everyone is a product of their past and he broke the toxic parenting cycle of his family and generational trauma. The wizarding world can only be so magical until you realize that magic can’t change the person you are; therefore Draco took it upon himself to become a better person for his family and his wife. Something that Lucious didn’t even attempt to think about that when Draco was a lad. Plus I REALLY disliked Hermione because she was stuck up and a know-it-all
You should do another video about the possibility of some wizards and witches like the Malfoys having an extreme dislike for American wizardkind and muggles the same as they look down upon most muggles and muggle-borns.
Just a flight of fancy: with the passing of Astoria and Scorpius increasingly on his own, I wonder if Draco's attention turned to Muggletech. I can imagine him keeping to himself in later years an mp3 player, and the first song on the playlist would be "Once in a Lifetime" by Talking Heads. I can imagine him with an affinity for the lyrics: "This is not my beautiful house... This is not my beautiful wife... Am I right? Am I wrong? My God; what have I done!"
I think, that his father taught Draco not from the beginning that mugglebornes are weaker then them. I think, at the second year it began because in the first year, he called Hermione never a mudblood. He just did not care for her because first she seems normal
Given the twists and turns of his upbringing, I'm kind of surprised Draco didn't regress after his wife's death into an angry phase where he actually delved into some bit of evil using alchemy and/or the dark artefacts he continued to curate. Especially since losing his wife could reasonably have left the pampered man feeling cheated by life and magic.
To say that Cursed Child is the worst that happened to Harry Potter is not enough. I've read it just yesterday and so many things doesn't make sense there, starting with Voldemort's daughter. Than for example no one considered that Harry's parents were under Fidelius charm (which was so essential to the whole series) and so they were undetectable for anyone who didn't know the secret. So their sons couldn't see the house and the parents leaving with little Harry and his blanket, Lily wrote in the letter from Deatly Hallows that James couldn't stand being home all the time. It's quite important, but why bother... When exactly was Bellatrix supposed to be pregnant when we see her in July - no sign, when we see her in February/March - no sign. And how Voldemort would ignore this fact, how would he not know about it? Crazy, crazy, crazy. It's whole just plot convinience and I don't believe J.K. had much to do with this thing other than look through and sign. I can believe there are fanfictions better than that. I hate how rushed the actions is, how Ron became some clown, how there is no peacuful, relaxing moment, no time to really feel emotion and the ending is eh, lamentable. I liked young Scorpius though, very interesting character.
Bellatrix had a pregnancy corset? I always pictured robes being very loose and flowing, the films have more of a Victorian-1940's aesthetic on the wizards and witches. If Bellatrix was pregnant we may not have known. (I also wasn't a fan of Cursed Child, but the Draco character development was nice. I like how Harry and Ginny's childhood trauma was emphasized)
One Thing I've always wondered, we know the elder wand was powerful enough to restore Harry original wand, would it have also been powerful enough to break Astoria's blood curse? and further restore the Longbottom's? Neville deserves it.
I think as the blood curse as the Potter universe version of cancer. Nothing can cure it. We can just ease the effect can't get rid of it. Astoria isn't the only Greengrass to have the blood curse. It was passed to some of her relatives as well. Just like cancer
Harry Potter folk law I accept that as a stand alone story the cursed child is a good story. However I do not and never will count it as canon. I see it as fanfic written so well that made it to Broadway.
Astoria actually died from Malediction blood curse, JK Rowling confirmed it in the The Unofficial Harry Potter Character Compendium (Just an update lol)
Strangely, I think he would have returned to Hogwarts. Maybe to teach Alchemy, or history seeing he lived alot of it and his family was part of so much of it.
At the start when it starts talking about how he lost no one important to him & his family got of easy, but like wasn’t Bellatrix his aunt? And his moms sister? I get he didn’t like her much but still. Don’t forget Crab who literally died in front of Draco, oh and you know SNAPE who favourited Draco for like 6 years,he made the unbreakable promise (idk what it’s called) to protect him. I just feel that Draco would have felt the loss of at least one of these ppl (obviously not the same as losing a wife)
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Fun Fact: Lucius and Narcissa hated Astoria coz she didn't care about Pureblood Stuff and taught the same to Scorpius
there is absolutely nothing fun about this fact
They were disappointed in her more accepting beliefs to the point of mounting tensions at family gatherings, but I don’t think they necessarily hated her. She obviously made Draco very happy, which clearly mattered more to them than anything else by the end of Deathly Hallows; bear in mind that most other pureblood families would have disowned Draco on the spot the moment he married a “blood traitor” (e.g. Cedrella Black after she married Septimus Weasley), so it speaks volumes that Draco was not only NOT disowned but is implied to have received much-needed support from his parents after Astoria’s death despite their disagreements with her over blood purity.
They did not hate her Lucius hated her but Narcissa did not hate her
Ummm guys after the battle of hogwarts they all left the pureblood reliefs behind and lived like a Happy family. Even lucius started accepting the fact muggles and muggle born witches are their equal. They were very happy that their son got a life they couldnt. They didn't hate astoria. They were there for draco when astoria died. They were also impacted by her death. She was like a daughter to them but they stayed strong for their son
@@lasthope3237 hater
It's nice to know that Draco has a heart.
He had all the time. How close he was to spare Dumbledore in Half-blood Prince, how he couldn't actually kill anyone. How he didn't want to say anything, when Harry, Ron and Hermiony were captured, he even hestiated with Hermiony who was 'mudblood' for him most of the time. Or the teacher in the beggining of Deatly Hallows. He was scared for his and his parents life, so didn't dare to do a thing. He was a good boy, rised bad and once he understood it, he started to gain his own opinions and search for his own way.
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My father will hear about this
@@dracomalfoy6761 Lol
I thought Draco might eventually marry Hermione. That is if Hermione and Ron ever split up. Draco and Hermione being married would certainly add a different dynamic to the Harry Potter story.
"Draco lost nobody important to him in the war..." Poor Crabbe.
I know he was only his godfather and practically 'you know'... "died" for him, but what about Snape?
I feel bad at how hard i chuckled at this comment 💀
Crabbe was a dick and Draco was better off.
These responses got darker and darker
I thought it was goyle
The irony of focusing on being “pure blood” and tragically falling in love with someone with a Blood Curse.
What's a blood curse?
@@lillilly8453 something made up by JKR to patch a plot hole?
@@kamion53 ... i don’t really see how blood curses patch up any plot holes tho 🤷♀️
@@kamion53 maybe you should express yourself more respectful
@@lillilly8453 It's like a Magic Version of Cancer
I'm so sorry that draco lost his wife. I think Astoria was amazing woman and mom.
Astoria was but the person who played her 💀😬
@dr103 I think it was because she was rude to tom Felton and was being difficult .( I read that from another comment so I'm not sure if that's true or not)
@@Dina4444. idk how that's possible because she was his girlfriend at the time.
@@cortanaisawesome5575 yeah that's exactly what I was thinking because they seemed fine when they were together until 2016. but I'm just going off what other people have said which is probably not true.
@@Dina4444. she cheated on Tom Felton
I felt bad for malfoy and Astoria but I dont like the cursed child.
Same
Lets just say the Cursed Child is NOT canon
Same
@@SlyCooper1920 it was based on a play jk just wrote it about the play she didn’t come up with it herself which is why it’s so bad
Yeah me too
She is caracter that is so underrated .I wish she never died ,but she isn't dead at all in my head .Can you make a video where you explain her life ?
Yeah
Ok not hate but I don’t like Astoria
@@primroses9220 i respect ur opinion but I’m curious on why you hate her no offense I’m just curious
@@mari-vikiuribe6773 I’ve seen most people hate on her because of fan fics 💀
@@BananaNinjaOfficial lol ok😂😂💀
Don't like Cursed Child but felt bad for Draco and Astoria.
Only thing good about the Cursed Child is how they portrayed a better more redeemed Draco and interactions with his son...
same:(
I feel bad for Draco
This is my 3rd time feeling bad for Draco :(
I don't consider *Cursed Child* to be canonical to the whole *Harry Potter* mythos.
What happened in the cursed child?
One of my favorite scenes in the novel when Ron says that's twice we saved your life tonight you two-faced bastard and hits him. But you've changed my view of him well done
I personally never got that part though. Draco was obviously trying to survive and long abandoned the Death Eater's ideals even during the war. I don't think it was a two faced act to try and convince the death eater he was on "his side" so the guy won't kill him. He proved in the manor that he is not on their side.
Draco is so underrated it pains me. His growth was amazing
thanks
draco is definitely NOT underrated. biggest load of rubbish i’ve heard in a while.
Draco is certainly not underrated for what he actually is in the story: nl, just a catheliser for the actions Harry takes.
his obnoxious behaviour triggered Harry to avoid Slytherin and his failed attemp in killing Dumbledor set in motion the domination of the Elder Wand which in the end proved fatal to Voldemort
He's actually overrated tbh
I wish Draco and Harry became friends by the end of The Deathly Hallows. He'd make a fantastic Auror.
Did in the cursed child.
@@onetrackmind3558 They weren't friends, but they respected one another
“Lost no one important to him.”
But Snape was his godfather, was like an uncle and Snape died. So he lost Snape who tried to protect him and was like family.
Ps. Also Crabbe dies as well, you can argue he was nothing but a henchman. I don’t entirely think so personally, they grew up together and then he died so it’s someone close to him. But in the movies it’s Goyle.
Snape as Draco's godfather is nowhere stated in the canon, I think it is fanfic whishful thinking, because Harry had Sirius as godfather and someone needed a sense of balance.
on the whole the relation between Snape and the Malfoy's is pretty vague, other then that Draco was the only student that did not annoy the hell out of Snape we know nothing, besides that Lucius and Snape both were deatheaters.
Don't think there was a cozy monthly Deatheater TeaParty or so.
Crabbe and Goyle are more or less introduce being more lackeys then friends and not particulair appreciated by Draco, but likely to be forched upon then because the relation his father had with their fathers.
There is however a hint that in one of JKR's scrapbook there was something like friendship between Theodore Nott and Draco, but not much of it reached canon.
@@kamion53, I see your point. But I believe it makes sense as Lucius and Snape were friends which I believe JK has explained before. Lucius was the Prefect when Snape first went to Hogwarts and Lucius sort of took him under his wing. And if Snape was never Draco’s Godfather then I believe Draco saw him as a family member because Snape was there for him a lot. And if Draco never had close relationships with Snape and Crabbe/Goyle their deaths really affected him. They made him realize that he could die during the battle and makes him realize he needs to play safe. But I hear your points.
@@megancashatt Lucius did take Snape under his wing when Snape was Sorted. Lucius being a few years older left Hogwarts before Snape and there is nothing about how close they stayed after Hogwarts. Snape was dirt poor and Lucius filthy rich, they may have been to the same school, but they were of opposite social area's, how long does that then last when their only common ground nl. Voldemort dissappears and it was everybody for him ( her) self. I rather doubt Snape was a regular at the Malfoy Manor in the years it mattered for Draco to coming to know him as a family member.
I do hower believe that Draco was told by Lucius if he needed help in Hogwarts he could turn to Snape, more or less in the trend of:
"I looked out for Snape when he came to Hogwarts, now it's time for him to pay back that favour."
But then again: "that what is not written isn't part of the canon." ( but nice stuff for fanfiction)
@@kamion53, I see your point. I just interpret it a bit differently. But you made many good points towards the canon.
@@megancashatt thank you, it's a nice discusion
( much nicer then the regular shouting matces one sees too often on the net. )
I know how Draco felt when he lost his love
This puts Draco in a better light in my eyes.
i’m sorry but i’m genuinely not considering cursed child canon.
Same.. A fanfiction with that many plotholes is better to be left out.. It actually made less sense than those Wattpad-fanfics
The cursed child book is cursed in my eyes
same ,.
yeah but it is canon no matter if people like it or not. If the creator of the universe says any part of it is canon then that's that. Fans can't say what is and isn't canon because the fans didn't create it.
@@MattiMCFC it can't be a fanfiction because it wasn't written by a fan.
Honestly, I think draco was the most tragic character in harry potter films
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Or Snape
UMM NO IDK I THINK IT IS ITS HMM LETS THINK HARRY??
Agreed
@@etharomar1461 why? Yes....he lost his parents and lived a miserable life until he got to hogwarts. But for drago....he went trough a diffrent kind of abuse.... he always wanted his parents approval especially of his father. Its the „love“ he knows. His only friends consist of a few purebloods whos parents are deatheaters too and who act more like servants than true friends. Everyone expected him to be against muggleborns and bloodtrators... he Never was alllowed to speak freely or to think for himself. Its tragic, really. There is so much depht to his Charakter.
Just like ist was with Snape, I truly believe he had the most tragic life out of all of them.
He was born in to a highly abusive household (much worse than the dursleys...eventhoug things like that shouldnt be compared). He met a little girl who „befriended“ him after some time (his first friend ever and the first person who was nice to him) but as soon as they got to hogwarts she was taken away from him again and he was lonley again. After all of the ugly incidences with the marauders who bullied him into oblivion just because „he existed“ (james potter really said so....) and even tried to kill him when they were 16. His time at hogwarts was nearly as miserable as his time at home and got only worse after he lost lily as a friend.... especially since he loved lily without all he had. (We probably would too if she was the only one who ever was this nice to us or our only friend) Severus loved her so dearly that he was willing to give his live for her...or her son in this matter. I never thought that he was a pleasant man, but who would care about unnecessary pleasantries and being „nice“ after faith had never showed it to you? He never had a chance to be happy. He was too broken before he even graduated and I think this is a true tragedy.
Harry at least had a dozen of friends and was loved by the teachers... he had the weasleys and the order of the Phoenix.... all while draco and especially severus snape had no one to truly talk to or who made them feel loved.
IN MY OPINION THE ONLY GOOD
THING BOUT DRACO MALFOY
IS HOW MUCH HE LOVED HIS
WIFE ASTORIA+HOW MUCH HE WAS PREPARED 2 SACRIFICE FOR
HER SAKE.
Why are you shouting
Use your inside voice
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@@gabinathan5499 We understand but if you write your responses in English you are going have to learn the difference. English has different language rules and that includes capitals and lowercase letters. All caps on the internet comes out as shouting...
"Cursed Child" is to HP fans what "Love Never Dies" is to PotO fans.
It’s ironic, Draco used to taunt Harry because he was an orphan... and then his own son would grow up without a mom...
Poetic justice
It's Karma
@@kathleenabbu8553 Thats neither karma nor justice. You are basically saying because his dad was mean as a child Scorpio deserves to suffer. That doesn't make any sense at all. If Draco himself ended up as orphan that would have been different. But children shouldn't pay for their parents sins.
@@ducklingscap897 definitely. why should Scorpio receive receive karma for what Draco did?
Apparently Draco was a loving father to Scorpius. Both he and Astoria Greengrass raised Scorpius with love and taught him tolerance towards muggleborns and half bloods.
Rowling: Girls are misguided to fancy Draco Malfoy. He isn't hiding a heart of gold.
Also Rowling: btw.. He's a WONDERFUL husband and an AMAZING father..ok bye.
Everyone: O.O
i'll never understand how JKR could kill off astoria after everything she put draco through
Yea poor thing
Ikr I think she had it all in for poor draco I just wanna hug him
@@Gitzzin same queen that’s why I’m trying to shift.
@@sabrinaswanson1544 I did but we'll i knew about shifting and it may sound weird but I have tried for 3 years
@@Gitzzin really? I’ve been trying for almost 2 months and I’m getting somewhere
Draco Malfoy looks like Tom Felton. weird.
Tom Felton played Malfoy in the films.
@@YellowBear-kx1ff What?! No wayyyyy..
@@dfpl2554 of course he does
I can't tell if this comment is a joke or not👁️👄👁️
That is so bizarre!!! I would have never known!
I think I read that he was into Alchemy even before his wife's passing. Draco always seemed to like or be good at Potions (probably because of Snape's favoritism too), so I think he just also had an inclination towards Alchemy, or he tried to save his wife through it.
Astoria was so underrated 😢😢
I head canon that prior to meeting Draco, Astoria had little to no social life, mostly due to the amount of rest required to cope with her poor health. Hogwarts curriculum is rather full, so that wouldn't be surprising.
Fun fact: Tom Felton's real life gf played Astoria in the last movie.
@Maria Samhoun who got tell her...
@@genierosegarnica6006 lmao
Srsly??!
Its interesting that Draco took to alchemy. An art that holds the secret to eternal life and perhaps raising his wife back from the dead.
Would be interesting if Scorpius ends up romantically involved with a muggle born sorcerer. How would Draco respond.
Honestly after everything he went through and his wife pushing to to more open minded views I doubt he would really care anymore. Plus I'm pretty sure he ended up dating a witch names Rose by the end of The Cursed Child
...or sorceress....
Scorpius did ended with the daughter of whom his father as a kid called mudblood that means Scorpius married the daughter of harmione Granger and Ron Weasley , Rose Weasley he ( Scorpius) fell in love with her (rose) at first sight and they ended up together and they produced 3 kids also Draco had no issues with his son's decision to marry Rose Weasley
what if draco malfoy had his name come out of the goblete of fire
He couldnt bc he wasnt 17
@@emily9430 yes but you realize harry wasn't either and his name came out fro the goblet lol. i think he means what if someone put dracos name in like they did for harry, and the name actually coming out
@@thekayvalentineenee oh ok
His head would inflate so much that it would burst
Well draco didnt put his name into the goblet of fire. So how can his name come outta there?
I think after Astoria passed away Narsissa would have possibly put her pure-blood believes aside so she could help Draco as well as give Scorpius a maternal figure after the passing of his mother at a young age
I don't know about that, especially since Narcissa Black Malfoy's actress Helen McCrory passed away because of cancer, hence it's also possible Narcissa also dies later in the story in an example of "The Character Died With Him/Her/Them".
He actually did loose his childhood friend
He lost his aunt ik she is a psycho but she loved draco enough to accompany her sister to go to snape not following voldys instruction and as we know bellatrix loved Voldemort and very unlike her to do so am sure he was sad .
bella is a douche though.. Im not sad
It would have been nice to see a relationship between Draco and his other aunt, Andromeda.
@@fartmaster0707 LMAOOOO she taught u dada for ur mission and BETERYED her lord
@@mari-vikiuribe6773 I dont think he really knew her and dont think narissa nor lucius would allow him since she was disowned for marrying a muggleborn
@@jomana5218 i know but I would love to see it! And also I would love to see a relationship between him and his nephew Teddy
Hiii! I love this video, I enjoyed every upload so far, but this one was amazing. P.S I am a HUGE fan of Harry Potter too!!
Bloodcurse means bleeding out thru the monthly curse this is my head cannon
Lol your pic matches the cheeky comment.
When he said that Draco started looking into Alchemy my Flash fan in me thought of Dr.Alchemy and Zavatar and if you don’t know Dr.Alchemy was played by Tom Felton which is the actor who also plays Draco
He also talked about the philosopher stone in the flash, which was funny
SEE THE CONNECTIONS NOW?
Wow i never knew draco changed after the war ended
Draco is my favourite character ever
For a second I thought the thumbnail was Hermione and not Astoria 😂
😳
Dramoine alert ....
I don’t ship them lol I ship an even weirder one...
WARNING....
Drinny (Draco + Ginny) 😥
@@stereo..typess WHY
Seems to me that the Malfoy family’s loyalty shifted was the moment Voldemort tried to kill Draco by assigning him an impossible task.
Edit: Prior to Draco’s birth, both of his parents had nothing irreplaceable to lose. That typically changes when someone has a child.
First. I love ur channel. And I don't really consider cursed child as a book by jk rowing
Same it completely ruins the point of time travel
She approved of it and sees it as canon
lol what’s cursed child.. no different timelines here.
@@SofiaBerruxSubs ya but it is the worst book ever. It ruins everything all the characters stand for.
@@fartmaster0707 ya
Hey I have a question. And it makes a great theory idea. Could muggle medicine have helped Astoria live longer? With the help of a dialysis machine or medicine for blood pathogens? Something like that?
Thats a good question! I never thought about that..
Good question 👀🤔🤔🤔🤔 maybe Google can help?
that’s a good question... maybe if she had a blood transfusion??
You new entro is NICE! By the way, did you hear the theory that Crookshanks was the Potters cat? Leave a reply if you did!👇👇👇
I did, and I think it could be true
Does Draco Malfoy remind anyone else of Zuko from ATLA? Crazy deep redemption arc, seemingly evil but really just wants daddy's love, ends up proving in the end that they have a heart -and a very dedicated one...(& for the nerds, Zuko ends up with his own dragon and, well, we all know what the name Draco translates to)
R.i.p Astoria greengrass
She was the best daughter-in-law I ever had
Wow. Your channel got huge!!!!!! Congratulations
Please make a video on what happened to everyone after the war 20 years later
I felt sorry for Draco and I have no idea what he's going through he has change of heart throughout the years and I care about Draco and his son and I felt bad about both Harry and Draco the boy who lived and the boy who had A wrong choices and muggles heroes and Malfoy's too
I've read cursed child and instantly fell for the malfoy family, they are all so nice in there. Even though cursed child as not as legit as HP, but i really need to know more about astoria
Losing my wife a decade ago on the 21st of this month was the worst thing to happen to me. I’m only 30 and I’m stuck in this pit of sorrow... I can identify with him. I’m annoyed with anyone who flirts with me and I think of my love first thing when I wake up and even dream she’s still able to talk to me! Please someone talk with me! Please I’m starting to crack. I’m sorry to leave this here but this struck a nerve and I need a friend who can understand
I understand. I lost my husband of 40 years, a year ago in August. I understand your pain and sorrow all too well. But you are very young, and in time the pain will heal enough for you to start over again if you choose. But you will never be able to forget your first love. I shall you well.
I know it's not mentioned in any material but wish they bring up the source of the blood curse. And maybe have a storyline of Draco finding a way to remove the curse from Astoria and the Green grass family....
I think Draco would still date other women but wouldn’t marry them, to avoid loneliness in his personal life, especially when scorpius is all grown up. Some parents do that, dating somebody but will never replace their former spouse.
I also posted this before, but video was deleted and rendered. I think the Malfoys got off for not just abandoning Voldemort, Nerissa saving Harry but also for testifying against other Death Eaters and telling what happened to Charity Burbage. But Lucius never entered in government affairs again, as he was officially unable to.
According to Pottermore’s article on the Malfoy family, Lucius did indeed testify against the other Death Eaters, and even took it a step further by outing every last remaining Death Eater (presumably including any Death Eaters the Ministry didn’t know about by that point) and even personally helping the Ministry to arrest several of Voldemort’s remaining followers who had gone into hiding.
I don't understand why ppl ship dramione and drarry THEY HATED EACHOTHER
I liked Draco and knew if he got away from his father, he would turn out much better than either of his parents
Astoria was so good to him ;( idc what you all have to say she made him become a better version of himself
the 2nd greatest harry potter channel ever
Always love your videos!
Astoria’s Death sounds like a band name.
If I start ehm saying my obsession ur gonna freak. WARNING - THIS WAS BEFORE THE TIKTOK TREND (this happened about 3 years ago) AND I CANT HELP BEING OBSESSED WITH DRACO :3
And btw I’m obsessed with Harry Potter series and have been since I was 2 XD
Lovely video!!
No one close he lost his best friend Crabbe in the Battle of Hogwarts
Draco has one of the best character arcs in the series
The cursed child was a great play write and actually didn't feel fan mad even though jk Rowling only wrote the plot and events, great story I loved it, although not as good as the books, they are 2 completely different types of literature
🥺 sweet sweet Draco im glad he have scorpius
People : I feel bad for Draco but I hate the cursed child.
Me:it’s not even out yet ....
Jo Rowling: I’m going to make Draco the bully!
JR: and then ima make him suffer in his last two school years!
JR: and then I’m going to take away his redemption scene!
JR: but don’t worry! I’m going to give him an amazing life afterward that contains a wife and son!
JR: Happy, happy, happy!
JR: and THEN I’m going kill of his wife!
JR: and make people think his son is Voldemort’s!
JR: and I’m transphobic :)
JR: and I expect people to respect me.
JR: thank you for your tears and frustration!
JR:😃😃😃😃
Most awesome vid!!!!!
I feel so sorry for him poor Draco.
I don't consider cursed child canon because of the errors. But in this part it added to the lore in a good way. It deepened Dracos arc. Draco saw what war did to the world and he regretted it all. And he now tries to do better. Everything is logical (as much as it can be in the franchise)
Wish they would’ve shown a bit more of his interest towards his wife during the last movie at least. He had potential for a nice story but I feel like the writers didn’t go full one with it, they didn’t really made him pick a side. Wish they would’ve showed him changing beliefs.( also I teard up a bit)
I wouldn’t say “The Cursed Child” is THE worst thing. It’s level 2 cannon, and there are other worse things to have happened to HP:
The movies changing Ravenclaw’s mascot and colors
J.K. Rowling’s transphobia
Official Ravenclaw merch not being blue and bronze and not having an egale
J.K. Rowling’s severe transphobia
Not enough Doby in the movies
J.K. Rowling’s transphobia which should be denounced
All the things WB left out of GOF
J.K. Rowling’s hateful tweets
Being a ravenclaw is hard :/
The label transphobia is a perjorative meant to suppress contrary opinion without recourse to quantifiable or qualitative debate.
Draco has always been my favourite character, the quote “the abused becomes the abuser” was made for him. Everyone is a product of their past and he broke the toxic parenting cycle of his family and generational trauma. The wizarding world can only be so magical until you realize that magic can’t change the person you are; therefore Draco took it upon himself to become a better person for his family and his wife. Something that Lucious didn’t even attempt to think about that when Draco was a lad. Plus I REALLY disliked Hermione because she was stuck up and a know-it-all
You should do another video about the possibility of some wizards and witches like the Malfoys having an extreme dislike for American wizardkind and muggles the same as they look down upon most muggles and muggle-borns.
Just a flight of fancy: with the passing of Astoria and Scorpius increasingly on his own, I wonder if Draco's attention turned to Muggletech. I can imagine him keeping to himself in later years an mp3 player, and the first song on the playlist would be "Once in a Lifetime" by Talking Heads. I can imagine him with an affinity for the lyrics: "This is not my beautiful house... This is not my beautiful wife... Am I right? Am I wrong? My God; what have I done!"
"he lost no one important to him"
Goyle: 👁️👄👁️ wow. K
😭💔 Draco
I think, that his father taught Draco not from the beginning that mugglebornes are weaker then them. I think, at the second year it began because in the first year, he called Hermione never a mudblood. He just did not care for her because first she seems normal
so this whole thing is real?
Given the twists and turns of his upbringing, I'm kind of surprised Draco didn't regress after his wife's death into an angry phase where he actually delved into some bit of evil using alchemy and/or the dark artefacts he continued to curate. Especially since losing his wife could reasonably have left the pampered man feeling cheated by life and magic.
Poor Scorpius
DRACO FOREVER 😍😍😍😘💚💚🐍
The Cursed Child is not canon for me so Astoria is alive and he and his family is happy
Draco's life always shows how toxic parenting is really disturbing.
I wish the Cursed Child would be made into a movie.
To say that Cursed Child is the worst that happened to Harry Potter is not enough. I've read it just yesterday and so many things doesn't make sense there, starting with Voldemort's daughter. Than for example no one considered that Harry's parents were under Fidelius charm (which was so essential to the whole series) and so they were undetectable for anyone who didn't know the secret. So their sons couldn't see the house and the parents leaving with little Harry and his blanket, Lily wrote in the letter from Deatly Hallows that James couldn't stand being home all the time. It's quite important, but why bother... When exactly was Bellatrix supposed to be pregnant when we see her in July - no sign, when we see her in February/March - no sign. And how Voldemort would ignore this fact, how would he not know about it? Crazy, crazy, crazy. It's whole just plot convinience and I don't believe J.K. had much to do with this thing other than look through and sign. I can believe there are fanfictions better than that. I hate how rushed the actions is, how Ron became some clown, how there is no peacuful, relaxing moment, no time to really feel emotion and the ending is eh, lamentable. I liked young Scorpius though, very interesting character.
Bellatrix had a pregnancy corset? I always pictured robes being very loose and flowing, the films have more of a Victorian-1940's aesthetic on the wizards and witches. If Bellatrix was pregnant we may not have known.
(I also wasn't a fan of Cursed Child, but the Draco character development was nice. I like how Harry and Ginny's childhood trauma was emphasized)
What an awesome character he is. He was able to change because of the battle at Hogwarts
Thank you.
Hence proved that villains are great lovers
Harry could've told draco about the resurrection stone but to proceed with caution.
i don’t like draco that much but this made me LOVE older draco. i feel so bad though. like i know it’s fictional BUT STILL
One Thing I've always wondered, we know the elder wand was powerful enough to restore Harry original wand, would it have also been powerful enough to break Astoria's blood curse? and further restore the Longbottom's? Neville deserves it.
I think as the blood curse as the Potter universe version of cancer. Nothing can cure it. We can just ease the effect can't get rid of it. Astoria isn't the only Greengrass to have the blood curse. It was passed to some of her relatives as well. Just like cancer
Draco moved to Central City and became allies with The Flash after being used by Savitar via the Philosopher's Stone
Great video! Loved it!
Harry Potter folk law I accept that as a stand alone story the cursed child is a good story. However I do not and never will count it as canon. I see it as fanfic written so well that made it to Broadway.
Astoria actually died from Malediction blood curse, JK Rowling confirmed it in the The Unofficial Harry Potter Character Compendium
(Just an update lol)
This is the only thing I like from the cursed child
that's rude
Lami Mija
It’s an opinion and a compliment to that part of the story
Love thisssss
Strangely, I think he would have returned to Hogwarts. Maybe to teach Alchemy, or history seeing he lived alot of it and his family was part of so much of it.
What about Professor binns
For once i actually feel sorry for Draco
I feel like I missed a whole book...where is this info from? I feel so old now
At the start when it starts talking about how he lost no one important to him & his family got of easy, but like wasn’t Bellatrix his aunt? And his moms sister? I get he didn’t like her much but still. Don’t forget Crab who literally died in front of Draco, oh and you know SNAPE who favourited Draco for like 6 years,he made the unbreakable promise (idk what it’s called) to protect him. I just feel that Draco would have felt the loss of at least one of these ppl (obviously not the same as losing a wife)
pls make a video on how to make your own deathly hallows
You should do what if Draco went to dermstrong. That would be cool
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