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Martha and the others trapped in the organ harvesting store are ghouls (not mutants). They go feral if they don't get chems every day. The show hasn't shown them, but there are Super Mutants in the games
hey guys, another great ep, you go a lifelong fan here....which means ima likely bug the sh!t outta you in the comments with recommendations. lol. So last ep i recommended 'Fringe' (which i still recommended) But also Arcane. I don't know if you guys watched it, but i think i remember you reacting to a trailer or two from League. I've never played it myself. But Arcane was amazing, and actually made me cry like a kid. I think the CG aspect makes you suspend disbelief easier so you just get invested in the story and characters way more than live action so it hit hard af. Its a great time for game to screen adaptations man. But if you've already seen it....then 'Fringe' lol.....or seasons 1 to 5 of Supernatural. actually talking of League. Lucys character in this is actually played by the actress who voices Jynx.
Snip Snip is a medical bot. Originally programmed to help people. That's why he fixes her finger first. He was likely reprogrammed to harvest organs, but the original programming was still there. This kind of thing was common in robots in Fallout universe. People tried to reprogram/hack them for other uses than they were originally intended for.
Those of us who've played the games realize that, but it makes sense for people who haven't to ask that question because on the surface it doesn't seem to make sense.
i thought it was to keep all the fingers fresh. they have a storage of fingers all rotting, but if they are attached to a person with a missing finger they will naturally stop necrosis and would get better, keeping them fresher for longer.
I also took it as you would get the most caps for a full hand, so may as well use up extra fingers you have laying around to increase the value of the parts than to have 'damaged goods'.
@@loganblevensoni first thought it was because they could get more money from her organs if the person was in mint condition 🤔 so they reattached her finger so they could sell her parts for a higher price or something like that 😅
I love the scene with The Ghoul watching his own movie. It perfectly reinforce the parallel between Lucy, who refuses to compromise her principles despite what the world became, and The Ghoul, who was already doing it before the first bomb dropped.
@@lordmortarius538 When he says "you appear to be a woman", all I can hear is "come on! We both knew it was on the cards as soon as I realised you were a woman!"
It's really interesting, because is means she 'knows' the words, she just doesn't 'use' them. It's a deliberate choice, and shows how far she was pushed. And now she's back to 'golly' and 'gosh'.
Roger was turning feral, and feral ghouls are basically manic, fast, cannibal zombies who hunt in packs. They come in different forms, from the regular speedy skinny ones, to the bloated and the glowing ones, which are essentially conduits of glowing green radiation who emit powerful blasts. Always fun to meet these fellas, specially in dark tunnels or derelict vaults.
It makes us so happy to see so many fans of the Fallout game come out and state just how happy they are with the show. It's been a fantastic ride so far!
The games never actually explain why regular Ghouls turn into Feral ones and the dementia angle was actually something created in a fan-series called Nuka Break, so it's cool they paid homage to it in what's considered canon to Fallout's lore now. Also, cool fact I learned; The Ghoul's theme from the show samples the overworld music from Fallout 1 for an area called Necropolis. Wanna guess why it's called that? That's right. It's a settlement of entirely Ghouls headed by the first ghoul we meet in the series, Set.
whats interesting is that the highly popular fanfic Fallout: Equestria had practically the exact same explanation of feral ghouls, but was made independently. IE all ghouls starting out just regular folks who can't die naturally, but end up going feral later as their bodies and minds degrade. makes me wonder if it was a popular fan theory back in the day. tho the games sometimes counter this. with ghouls created more recently (game time) also being feral. like vault 34 which would have been in the last 50 years, or camp searchlight which occurred right before the start of the game. ofcourse, you could argue its an issue of what made them ghouls in the first place, bombs vs waste, or quick blast vs long exposure. etc.
I want to shout out the name of the actor who played Roger. Neal Huff. I honestly didn't recognize him but I see he has been in a lot of things. I think he did a terrific job of playing the tortured soul about to turn feral. Everybody who reacts to this series loves that entire scene. Hey, even The Ghoul ate it up. 😛
I've been a fallout fan for decades and it is SO interesting, watching someone discover it through the TV show and not the games. It gives such a huge appreciation for what they have done, how well it has translated to TV. It's a joy to watch you both learn how this universe works, it's frequent aggressive switches from jolly, nonchalant weirdness to genuine gut wrenching tragedy or sadness, (and also game mechanics, stims for all your ailments) and just become enamoured by it as you do. This universe is incredible, it's worth a wander through.
Lucy MacLean sounds pretty much like Lucy McClane, daughter of John McClane from "Die Hard". So when she stood there in her blood stained shirt saying "Golden rule, motherf***er", it made my day!
The line he was forced to say, reflects the propaganda that his world was under at the time - that rugged individualism, "one man righting wrongs in the wilderness". Anything that even hinted at collective effort or cooperation for the common good, was suppressed. Now that he literally IS one man in the wilderness, he's seeing that line for the bullshit that it was. To quote Amos Burton from *The Expanse*: "The thing about civilization, is it keeps people civil. If you don't have one, you can't count on the other. People are tribal. The more settled things are, the bigger the tribes can be. Then [disaster] comes and the tribes get small again. Right now, we're a tribe of two."
Yeah, they fired the writer for suspected communism, and then added that "commie" line just to twist the knife (and also, probably, to deflect blame away from anyone else working on the movie).
I love the soundtrack. In the modern fallout games, your pipboy has a radio you can listen to while you play, and a lot of the songs have been from different stations from the games.
Heh, wait until y'all hear the song "Butcher Pete". 😄 It's not in the show, but in Fallout 76. Btw, if you want an authentic in depth storyline of fallout lore. Play Fallout 4. After you've beaten FO4 and like the lore and want to play side-by-side with eachother and with other fallout fans, get Fallout 76. Its not as in depth of storyline as the single player fallout games but it is a multiplayer version of fallout and has an outstanding community of players including myself. PC version is the oldest and has the oldest experienced players so I'd recommend playing on pc if you can. It is available on ps and xbox though.
@13:02 "Why bother fix her finger if you're gonna harvest her organs" Snip Snip is a medical robot, repurposed to harvest organs It was simply following its original programming of "fixing" the broken human in front of him After that was complete it could continue with its new programming of harvesting organs
Once again super smart writing on this show. My favorite subtle moment on this one is wen the Ghoul says "You are me, its just a matter of time"(paraphrasing) its the show hinting at Lucy becoming more like the Ghoul but also The Ghoul becoming more like Lucy. Show is honestly spectacular!
@@OfficialMediaKnights I think it's a reference to his personality, not of being a ghoul. He was once good too - see the discussion about why he has to kill the guy in the movie. Now after he witnessed the end and survived for over 200 years he understands that he has to focus on himself in order to survive out there. See the whole "Thou shalt get side tracked by bullshit every time" line as his drugs were broken. Lucy slowly becomes more ruthless too - from "Yada yada yada, I'm looking for my father" to "See this? I've filled the Mr. Handy (Snip Snip) up with acid cleaning stuff. Do what i say or feel my wrath!". So she's slowly changing and adapting to the world, like Wilzig said at the campfire: She will become another animal in the real world.
For some context, fans are still debating these ghoul meds because up until this point, the franchise never mentioned meds that could prevent ghouls from turning feral. It was random and uncertain when or if a ghoul would turn. Because of this, people are speculating if the lore has been rewritten or if (and this thought is really interesting) Cooper Howard aka the Ghoul was scammed and became addicted to these drugs in the belief that he needed them to survive.
That would be interesting and totally in line with rest of the show though... but Roger had bunch of vials too and he was turning. So... Could it be, medicine is addictive and withdraw process (cold turkey phase) could launch process turning them into Feral? Or maybe the medicine is some sort of Vault-tec experiments in some vaults and people manage to reproduce it but don't completely understand its effect and everyone knows what it supposedly to do bit like old 50's tobacco adds where tobacco was marketed as a health product? I can't wait to find out.
We should just leave those lore zealots argue in their caves because the lore we have is based on so little stuff and has been added or modified during 20 years by different people who have different opinions on that universe. The Fallout universe also is not based on one specific place at a specific time, but on various locations separated by thousands of km and so many years. After the war in a huge country where there is no communications and no transportations nobody knows who did what and when!
"Ass jerky don't make itself" is the line that stuck with me from the entire series. It lives in my head rent-free. Also, I think we all had the same thought Lucy did. I know I did. Course the truth wasn't much better. LOL. I already knew what the vaults really were going into this series. I can't wait to see how you two piece it together over the next four episodes.
Out of 10 to 20 reactors I've seen. YOU Are the Only ones that understood that by eating his Liver, could buy The Main Ghoul more time, due to the Medicine Vials. Like I say.. TOP TIER.. In many ways.
Man, I never connected the line "you're ugly, you're strong, and you have dignity" with where he is today! That's such an awesome connection and I am so impressed you seem to have caught that so fast just in your first viewing! You guys rock, keep it up!
In fact Tim Cain (Fallout cretor) explained that they intentionally didn't explain everything, they wanted to leave some mystery and they were right. When you explain everything you lose more that you get.
Lucy is still learning, but not learning fast enough. Her idea of "doing the right thing" and releasing the ghouls, she didn't consider the consequences. She doesn't understand the process of an intelligent ghoul turning feral. The guy on the couch tried to explain but she forced him to open the last cages. Now they are dead and she almost was too and she had to kill to save her life. Golden rule only works if everyone follows it, now you have to be nice and keep a loaded gun.
I finished season one yesterday, and going back to see your reaction like this is so great! Especially since going back brings so many things together that you might have missed while watching the first time. And also watching it alone with no one to discuss details with. It's really helpful.
I think Snip Snip attached a new finger to Lucy’s nub because they aren’t just harvesting her organs, but all of her body parts. So a whole arm, with intact hand and fingers would be worth more on the medical black market then one with a missing finger. Hence the Ghoul’s description of Lucy at the intercom as a nearly mint female.
i love the mr handy robot design in this episode and the easter egg of the computer hacks are so good. they did such a great job on this show and so can't wait for the second season already. so glad you guys are enjoying it so much. thanks again for the amazing reaction. 🤘 ps. the thing on the wrist is called a pip boy, heard you asking about it in the review : )
The device that the vault dwellers have on their wrists is called a PIP-Boy (PIP stands for Personal Information Processor). In the game it functions the player's menu for stats, inventory, navigation and a lot of other stuff. In the world of Fallout (the in-game lore) it can do a ton of stuff like you see in the show such as serving as a flashlight, monitoring your health, detecting radiation, interacting with or hacking computer systems and much more.
In the game, when you're above level 12 you can pick the Cannibal perk during level up 😂 😂 😂 It allows you to feed on the corpses of both humans and non-feral ghouls. Each corpse feasted on restores 25 HP, adds three rads and reduces Karma by one point 👍 What? I'm a nerd.
There was a teaser of Snip Snip in the end credits of episode 3. These end credits are artistic illustrations each time different and... I think you should include them in your full reactions. I had the same regret with my favorite Tarantino, Kill Bill, (I can't wait for you to react to the 4 Tarantinos that you haven't seen yet by the way, but everything comes in time to those who wait 🙂): the credits Endings are sometimes an important part of the film or episode, which adds new, important elements, and can spark great reactions. Anyway, Fallout is a superb work, I enjoy rewatching the episodes with you. Love you guys ❤ And... 151K suscribers 🥳🥳🥳. Good job Knights !
So glad to hear you’ve been enjoying these! We’ll make sure to add the credit segment in our full length 😄 Thank you for supporting us for such a long time. You rock!
In addition to all the other callbacks and moments that make us reinterpret things we've already seen alluded to in previous episodes, for me this episode struck so beautifully because the way they actively explored the contrast between Lucy and the Ghoul harked so strongly back to that single line from Wilzig in episode 2: _The question is, will you still want the same things when you've become a different animal altogether?_ Also, just wanted to say I'm having such a great time with your reactions! I'm only up to episode 5 myself, currently watching it a couple of episodes at a time when I catch up fortnightly with my brother, so I'm pretty close to where you Knights are. Loving your takes and your insights =)
Ok about robots in fallout. It's been 200 years since most of them have had proper maintenance and a lot haven't had any maintenance at all, so pretty much all of them are malfunctioning. Some are just a little quirky some can be straight up homicidal. So don't expect them to act logically.
Sometime a Ghoul can turn feral. Sometimes it happens right away upon Goulifikation sometimes it takes decades or centuries or may not happen at all. A feral ghoul is an organic landmine. they stand,sit or lie around until they sense vibrations. Then they attack. In the game they are even faster and more feroucius.
Remember back in episode 1, 32 and 33 traded dwellers on a tri-annual basis with no contact except between overseers over terminals so the two years ago unalive event in 32 wouldn’t have been known.
I love the progression of Lucy's character in this, and she is my favorite character followed closely by the Ghoul. Just remember the Golden rule motherf**ker lol.
2:50 in the games, those are actual items you can take. good for healing, if you don't mind getting some rads while at it, especially if you have the food sanitizer.
Lucy's first kill was using a finger from the Wasteland, now a part of her. Keep Lucy's (old) finger and what happens to it in mind. Such excellent writing.
"Golden Rule, Motherfucker." My favorite line of the series. Perfectly captures Lucy's naivete turning into a harder and stronger version of herself. 22:58 The interior of that Super Duper Mart is exactly something you would see in the game. Shelves in disarray but still some random loot, trash everywhere.
I just watched an interview with the actress who plays Lucy where she said it was her idea to make herself look as rough as she is. That's dedication right there.
The robot is a Mr Gutsy, the Army version of Mr Handy, a robot house butler. Mr Gutsies were basically multi tasking field medics and murderous machines.
The Actor who does the voice of robot and the ghouls' actor buddy from the party is named Matt Berry, amazing comedic actor! You guys should also check out What we do in the shadows.. which he is amazing in. also, the IT Crowd a british sitcom.. :D :D it'd be awesome to see you react to both! :D :D
"How the Hell is she going to do this?!" Well... She DID recently cut off Wilzig's head. 😉 The wrist device Vaulties wear is a PipBoy. In the games it serves as the UI for many functions (flashlight, health status, maps, inventory management, geiger counter, computer interface, etc.). This show is awesome. You two are awesome. Thanks! 😁👍
In the pilot it’s described as a triannual trade with vault 32, so I assume the vaults only communicate every 3 years. If the last sign of life in 32 was 2 years prior to now, whatever happened in vault 32 happened a year after their last scheduled communication.
Moises Aries, the guy who plays Lucy's brother, has come a looong way from his early days in Hannah Montana xD He also had an excellent villain role in Ender's Game.
07:07: I see it as more almost like a "Joker" thing. "I want to prove that to survive in this world, you have to turn into me. . . because if that's not true, it means I became this for nothing." Not the "ghoul" part, that he had no real control over, but remember how uncomfortable he was with even a character he was playing in a movie gunning down a man in cold blood. Now he's become someone who kills without a second thought, and does all kinds of other horrible things to survive. I imagine he's coping with it by telling himself the world doesn't have room in it for morality anymore, and doesn't dare contemplate that he might be wrong about that.
Fun fact about Chet: Originally he wasn't going to do much after the first episode, but they liked the actor so much they increased his part and added in him hooking up with Stephanie.
To expand on this episodes ending... Lucy was in his position that was in the film... she had the power and he was on the floor... all she had to do is shoot or even walk away to be exactly what he had become... She didn't... Whilst he caved to the pressure of his higher ups in the film... she didn't... she helped him back up and did not shoot him, she instead fought her "higher ups" and maintained her standards. Expanding on the line "I may end up looking like you, but i will never be like you". The more times you watch this show the more little things you pick up and see.
13:04 my thought on why fix her finger when he's just going to harvest her organs anyway is this, it can be assumed organs from a "mint condition" person would fetch a higher price.
"hank" "chet" "norm" "bert" "lucy" and i'm sure I'm forgetting some, but i like the 4 letter names. is there a fred or a greg? good for chetbert, nailing a widow, he's the funniest character and I'm glad he gets along with Norm, the best character.
Smoothskins is what ghouls call regular folks that have… smooth skins as opposed to what their skin looks like. The gadget on the vault dwellers’ wrist is called a Pip-Boy, a pre-war personal computer that was mostly developed for Vault-Tec to be used in the vaults. It’s how you access your inventory, character stats, quest list, world map, and radio in the games. It also had a Geiger counter. ☢️
The guy voicing the robot had roles in the Spongebob movies. I thought he sounded familiar! I won't lie though, for a moment I thought it was Simon Pegg 😂
I've said this on another reaction, but with this show: If something doesn't seem to make sense, it's probably something you missed/misunderstood, not a problem with the show. Fixing Lucy's finger is a good example. It's a medical bot reprogrammed to keep their 'stock' in the best condition possible for harvesting. It didn't know she'd be harvested immediately, so it was following its programming. That's not normally true, but this show is SO well written, it's best to assume that and think about what that missed thing could be, rather than writing it off as a plot hole or illogical.
Roger at the beginning was already a Ghoul. He was becoming feral because he didn't have anymore vials. When a Ghoul becomes feral it's like what you saw those last few Ghouls acting like that killed the two stoner characters near the end. They just become mindless killing machines. Ghouls are extremely lucky survivors who simply don't die when just enough radiation hits them instead of killing them it gave them a mutated appearance inside and out essentially leaving them immortal. Though, mind you they're not exactly mutants themselves. They simply look horrific due to the effects of the radiation from the Fallout. There are actual mutants in the Fallout universe but the show hasn't introduced them yet. But yes, the games originally had Ghouls going feral randomly and there was no hard and fast explanation or cure for it. The show is seemingly introducing this drug in the vials they need to take off to hold off becoming feral. There's a few theories and or game and lore moments that kind of contend with the idea but, I think it might just be a retconned idea they're just introducing for the sake of explaining why the Ghoul in the show is so old without succumbing and going feral. It'll probably end up in future games for better or worse. Also, there's been a few explorations of the Ghoul condition before in the games. There's a particularly sad side quest in one of the DLC for Fallout 4 that's very good and shows what happens to Ghouls who apparently don't have the vials they need but also don't even understand their condition. It was the entries in a diary of a young woman at an amusement part alongside her co-workers who got stuck there when the bombs fell. A radiation storm blew into the region and blanketed the park with what was left of the Fallout from a bomb going off in a nearby city. For those among them that didn't die they became Ghouls and then one by one they began to become feral. The girl left the park eventually on her own exploring settlements of surviving humans near the park and asking all the right questions but finding no answers. In the end, she planned to taker her own life and gave one last sad journal entry about it. It's a stirring part of the DLC and it's just a side quest. Fallout is full of those all over the place in side quests or little bits of lore you'll find from characters in the world and you can either piece together or find clues that detail their last moments.
In so far as Lucy drinking the radioactive water, there's definitely a lot of risk but also a question of when will she die of dehydration anyway? If that meter is in millisieverts (mS/h) she'd likely just be dead so I assume they're in the older milliroentgens and so just got a dose on the order of maybe 600 mR/h for the water she consumed. That over time would definitely give you radiation sickness but likely not acute radiation sickness and death in hours or days. And a much higher cancer risk. She definitely needs Rad Away (Fallout "magic" radiation fix/reduction)
ooohh yeah. when the SUPER DUPER MART was approached i first thought wed get Super Mutant! though i episode one when The Ghoul was introduced, that one guy referred to him as a Mutant which i think is why a lot of people not familiar with the games called the Ghouls Mutants since the other REAL Mutants from the games have not yet appeared on the show (they have in episode 2 but not yet really shown or addressed as such).
Reminds me of some Bible parallels. Like when Jesus said “A light has come into the world but the world of man preferred the darkness because their deeds we’re evil” of course he meant himself, but I can see how Lucy is this light in the show that shines in the darkness of post nuclear America
Personally i think The Ghoul pouring out his water when Lucy asked is almost him being nice. The water in the Wasteland is heavily irradiated, it would cause RAD sickness if she drank his water, which he is fine drinking cuz he's already a ghoul.
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Martha and the others trapped in the organ harvesting store are ghouls (not mutants). They go feral if they don't get chems every day. The show hasn't shown them, but there are Super Mutants in the games
Dont make me tooooo happy 😻😻😻🙀😻😻😻
Actually 20 to 30 reactors...Only you realized he eating liver for Medicine as well...Top Tier...
The thing on the wrist is a PipBoy ;)
hey guys, another great ep, you go a lifelong fan here....which means ima likely bug the sh!t outta you in the comments with recommendations. lol. So last ep i recommended 'Fringe' (which i still recommended) But also Arcane. I don't know if you guys watched it, but i think i remember you reacting to a trailer or two from League. I've never played it myself. But Arcane was amazing, and actually made me cry like a kid. I think the CG aspect makes you suspend disbelief easier so you just get invested in the story and characters way more than live action so it hit hard af. Its a great time for game to screen adaptations man. But if you've already seen it....then 'Fringe' lol.....or seasons 1 to 5 of Supernatural.
actually talking of League. Lucys character in this is actually played by the actress who voices Jynx.
Snip Snip is a medical bot. Originally programmed to help people. That's why he fixes her finger first. He was likely reprogrammed to harvest organs, but the original programming was still there. This kind of thing was common in robots in Fallout universe. People tried to reprogram/hack them for other uses than they were originally intended for.
Those of us who've played the games realize that, but it makes sense for people who haven't to ask that question because on the surface it doesn't seem to make sense.
i thought it was to keep all the fingers fresh. they have a storage of fingers all rotting, but if they are attached to a person with a missing finger they will naturally stop necrosis and would get better, keeping them fresher for longer.
Plus, it’s a robot. It doesn’t have a motivation. Just a bunch of routines and subroutines.
I also took it as you would get the most caps for a full hand, so may as well use up extra fingers you have laying around to increase the value of the parts than to have 'damaged goods'.
@@loganblevensoni first thought it was because they could get more money from her organs if the person was in mint condition 🤔 so they reattached her finger so they could sell her parts for a higher price or something like that 😅
I love the scene with The Ghoul watching his own movie. It perfectly reinforce the parallel between Lucy, who refuses to compromise her principles despite what the world became, and The Ghoul, who was already doing it before the first bomb dropped.
I believe they are a mirror of each other
Antitheses that drive each other to find a synthesis somewhere in the middle.
The pure cheerful tone in the Robot's voice when he says "I am simply going to harvest your organs!" is hilarious
Matthew Berry is a vocal phenomenon, loved him in the IT Crowd
@@lordmortarius538yes! And almost as great in we walk in the shadows
@@lordmortarius538 When he says "you appear to be a woman", all I can hear is "come on! We both knew it was on the cards as soon as I realised you were a woman!"
@@anthonydawson8080 Jackie Daytona, Regular Human Bartender
@@lordmortarius538 It's Jackie's world, we're just living in it
I wonder how Jim and the volleyball team are doing
There's something cathartic about Lucy's "Golden rule, motherf***er"
She looked like she was physically incapable of swearing until then.
It's really interesting, because is means she 'knows' the words, she just doesn't 'use' them. It's a deliberate choice, and shows how far she was pushed. And now she's back to 'golly' and 'gosh'.
Wait didn’t she say gosh damn it? Ep 2
@westfinest20 she did. She also asked Mama June "What's the Shithole?"
@@westfinest20 Yes, but those aren't curse words, right?
@@HereBeDragonsYTto be fair she was asking about a name, not cursing at a person.
Glad yall are loving the show. As a huge fan of the games, they did such an amazing job with this. Exceeded expectations by a mile
We are loving it! They’ve done such a great job with the show so far. Can’t wait to share the rest with you guys!
Kingdom of heaen@@OfficialMediaKnights
Like watching liberty prime hit a home run with a mini nuke made of t60s
Yeah with all the shitty series lately this is fantastic
Roger was turning feral, and feral ghouls are basically manic, fast, cannibal zombies who hunt in packs.
They come in different forms, from the regular speedy skinny ones, to the bloated and the glowing ones, which are essentially conduits of glowing green radiation who emit powerful blasts.
Always fun to meet these fellas, specially in dark tunnels or derelict vaults.
Or certain buildings named “Dunwich”
As a Fallout fan this show lived up to everything i wanted and the device on their arm is called a Pip-Boy 3000
It makes us so happy to see so many fans of the Fallout game come out and state just how happy they are with the show. It's been a fantastic ride so far!
Bethesda is selling the Pip-Boy 3000 from this show (preorder stage at this point, I think) for $200. I'm so tempted.
@@meadmaker4525I think it releases in fall or winter if I recall, $200 is veryyyy tempting but I think I will wait a bit longer for a discount/deal
The games never actually explain why regular Ghouls turn into Feral ones and the dementia angle was actually something created in a fan-series called Nuka Break, so it's cool they paid homage to it in what's considered canon to Fallout's lore now.
Also, cool fact I learned; The Ghoul's theme from the show samples the overworld music from Fallout 1 for an area called Necropolis. Wanna guess why it's called that? That's right. It's a settlement of entirely Ghouls headed by the first ghoul we meet in the series, Set.
whats interesting is that the highly popular fanfic Fallout: Equestria had practically the exact same explanation of feral ghouls, but was made independently. IE all ghouls starting out just regular folks who can't die naturally, but end up going feral later as their bodies and minds degrade. makes me wonder if it was a popular fan theory back in the day.
tho the games sometimes counter this. with ghouls created more recently (game time) also being feral. like vault 34 which would have been in the last 50 years, or camp searchlight which occurred right before the start of the game. ofcourse, you could argue its an issue of what made them ghouls in the first place, bombs vs waste, or quick blast vs long exposure. etc.
I want to shout out the name of the actor who played Roger. Neal Huff. I honestly didn't recognize him but I see he has been in a lot of things. I think he did a terrific job of playing the tortured soul about to turn feral. Everybody who reacts to this series loves that entire scene.
Hey, even The Ghoul ate it up. 😛
I've been a fallout fan for decades and it is SO interesting, watching someone discover it through the TV show and not the games. It gives such a huge appreciation for what they have done, how well it has translated to TV. It's a joy to watch you both learn how this universe works, it's frequent aggressive switches from jolly, nonchalant weirdness to genuine gut wrenching tragedy or sadness, (and also game mechanics, stims for all your ailments) and just become enamoured by it as you do.
This universe is incredible, it's worth a wander through.
Lucy MacLean sounds pretty much like Lucy McClane, daughter of John McClane from "Die Hard". So when she stood there in her blood stained shirt saying "Golden rule, motherf***er", it made my day!
Missed opportunity for her to say A "yippee ki-yay, m-fer" somewhere in the show
I still can’t get over how well this show turned out
The line he was forced to say, reflects the propaganda that his world was under at the time - that rugged individualism, "one man righting wrongs in the wilderness". Anything that even hinted at collective effort or cooperation for the common good, was suppressed.
Now that he literally IS one man in the wilderness, he's seeing that line for the bullshit that it was.
To quote Amos Burton from *The Expanse*:
"The thing about civilization, is it keeps people civil. If you don't have one, you can't count on the other. People are tribal. The more settled things are, the bigger the tribes can be. Then [disaster] comes and the tribes get small again. Right now, we're a tribe of two."
Yeah, they fired the writer for suspected communism, and then added that "commie" line just to twist the knife (and also, probably, to deflect blame away from anyone else working on the movie).
yeah, the commie line feels like a mandated line added by studio suits, esp since it wouldn't make sense to be in a western.
The surgeon robot's voice is Matt Berry. Laszlo Craven from What We Do In The Shadows TV Series. He was also in The IT Crowd. 🤣
I love Matt Berry, man. He's fckin hilarious.
@@nitrokid me too
BAT!!! 🦇🦇🦇🦇
@@destro6971 😂
OMG THAT`S WHY I THOUGHT I KNEW THAT VOICE!!!!!
I love the soundtrack. In the modern fallout games, your pipboy has a radio you can listen to while you play, and a lot of the songs have been from different stations from the games.
It really helps with the whole retro futuristic atmosphere they’re going for!
If your in sneak mode trying to kill or pickpocket someone and if your radio is on it gives your position away. It's just the little things ☺️
@@OfficialMediaKnightsthe games are why I have a “The Ink Spots” playlist on Spotify lol
Heh, wait until y'all hear the song "Butcher Pete". 😄 It's not in the show, but in Fallout 76. Btw, if you want an authentic in depth storyline of fallout lore. Play Fallout 4. After you've beaten FO4 and like the lore and want to play side-by-side with eachother and with other fallout fans, get Fallout 76. Its not as in depth of storyline as the single player fallout games but it is a multiplayer version of fallout and has an outstanding community of players including myself. PC version is the oldest and has the oldest experienced players so I'd recommend playing on pc if you can. It is available on ps and xbox though.
3:10 That was beautiful, he gave Roger a fond memory to go out on instead of turning into a mindless thing.
@13:02 "Why bother fix her finger if you're gonna harvest her organs"
Snip Snip is a medical robot, repurposed to harvest organs
It was simply following its original programming of "fixing" the broken human in front of him
After that was complete it could continue with its new programming of harvesting organs
Oh man i love your predictions.
Those are so spot on it's almost hard to believe you're watching this for the first time 😂
Once again super smart writing on this show. My favorite subtle moment on this one is wen the Ghoul says "You are me, its just a matter of time"(paraphrasing) its the show hinting at Lucy becoming more like the Ghoul but also The Ghoul becoming more like Lucy. Show is honestly spectacular!
It was honestly our hopes since the discussion of Ep 3 that they would become a little alike. Loving their dynamic!
@@OfficialMediaKnights I think it's a reference to his personality, not of being a ghoul. He was once good too - see the discussion about why he has to kill the guy in the movie. Now after he witnessed the end and survived for over 200 years he understands that he has to focus on himself in order to survive out there. See the whole "Thou shalt get side tracked by bullshit every time" line as his drugs were broken. Lucy slowly becomes more ruthless too - from "Yada yada yada, I'm looking for my father" to "See this? I've filled the Mr. Handy (Snip Snip) up with acid cleaning stuff. Do what i say or feel my wrath!". So she's slowly changing and adapting to the world, like Wilzig said at the campfire: She will become another animal in the real world.
For some context, fans are still debating these ghoul meds because up until this point, the franchise never mentioned meds that could prevent ghouls from turning feral. It was random and uncertain when or if a ghoul would turn. Because of this, people are speculating if the lore has been rewritten or if (and this thought is really interesting) Cooper Howard aka the Ghoul was scammed and became addicted to these drugs in the belief that he needed them to survive.
That would be interesting and totally in line with rest of the show though... but Roger had bunch of vials too and he was turning. So... Could it be, medicine is addictive and withdraw process (cold turkey phase) could launch process turning them into Feral? Or maybe the medicine is some sort of Vault-tec experiments in some vaults and people manage to reproduce it but don't completely understand its effect and everyone knows what it supposedly to do bit like old 50's tobacco adds where tobacco was marketed as a health product? I can't wait to find out.
@@thejamppa Maybe there are scammers who sell fake vials to those ghouls, do you think soft skins would not do this to those mutants for some caps ?
We should just leave those lore zealots argue in their caves because the lore we have is based on so little stuff and has been added or modified during 20 years by different people who have different opinions on that universe. The Fallout universe also is not based on one specific place at a specific time, but on various locations separated by thousands of km and so many years. After the war in a huge country where there is no communications and no transportations nobody knows who did what and when!
"Ass jerky don't make itself" is the line that stuck with me from the entire series. It lives in my head rent-free.
Also, I think we all had the same thought Lucy did. I know I did. Course the truth wasn't much better. LOL.
I already knew what the vaults really were going into this series. I can't wait to see how you two piece it together over the next four episodes.
I love how Blind Al is voted the new Overseer of Vault 33!"WOULD YOU LIKE TO BUILD A SNOWMAN?"🤣
Lucy goes into the Super-Duper Mart a vaultdweller and comes back out a wastelander. Such a great character arc.
I loved this episode. There was so many great lines in it and dialogue/scenes in general. Such an awesome show across the board
There are things even more dangerous than a pack of feral ghouls.
Indeed there are... Indeed there are... then Knight Titus' reaction is fully legit.
Out of 10 to 20 reactors I've seen. YOU Are the Only ones that understood that by eating his Liver, could buy The Main Ghoul more time, due to the Medicine Vials. Like I say.. TOP TIER.. In many ways.
Dang, I have watched this so twice and didn't connected the dots about that...
“Ass jerky don’t make itself.” My favorite line in the entire first season.
Man, I never connected the line "you're ugly, you're strong, and you have dignity" with where he is today! That's such an awesome connection and I am so impressed you seem to have caught that so fast just in your first viewing! You guys rock, keep it up!
As far as I know, the origins of ghouls and how they became what they are is still a debate even among the fallout creators
That's ironic.
In fact Tim Cain (Fallout cretor) explained that they intentionally didn't explain everything, they wanted to leave some mystery and they were right. When you explain everything you lose more that you get.
Lucy is still learning, but not learning fast enough. Her idea of "doing the right thing" and releasing the ghouls, she didn't consider the consequences. She doesn't understand the process of an intelligent ghoul turning feral. The guy on the couch tried to explain but she forced him to open the last cages. Now they are dead and she almost was too and she had to kill to save her life. Golden rule only works if everyone follows it, now you have to be nice and keep a loaded gun.
I finished season one yesterday, and going back to see your reaction like this is so great! Especially since going back brings so many things together that you might have missed while watching the first time. And also watching it alone with no one to discuss details with. It's really helpful.
Really appreciate you two and your perspective...
I think Snip Snip attached a new finger to Lucy’s nub because they aren’t just harvesting her organs, but all of her body parts. So a whole arm, with intact hand and fingers would be worth more on the medical black market then one with a missing finger. Hence the Ghoul’s description of Lucy at the intercom as a nearly mint female.
Not to mention she was probably losing blood from the wound, and they were probably going to take that too.
i love the mr handy robot design in this episode and the easter egg of the computer hacks are so good. they did such a great job on this show and so can't wait for the second season already. so glad you guys are enjoying it so much. thanks again for the amazing reaction. 🤘 ps. the thing on the wrist is called a pip boy, heard you asking about it in the review : )
Seeing Gucy-- I mean, Lucy get out of trouble on her own like a badass after everything she went through so far was honestly satisfying af
The device that the vault dwellers have on their wrists is called a PIP-Boy (PIP stands for Personal Information Processor). In the game it functions the player's menu for stats, inventory, navigation and a lot of other stuff. In the world of Fallout (the in-game lore) it can do a ton of stuff like you see in the show such as serving as a flashlight, monitoring your health, detecting radiation, interacting with or hacking computer systems and much more.
In the game, when you're above level 12 you can pick the Cannibal perk during level up 😂 😂 😂
It allows you to feed on the corpses of both humans and non-feral ghouls.
Each corpse feasted on restores 25 HP, adds three rads and reduces Karma by one point 👍
What? I'm a nerd.
I prefer the Vampirism perk from FO3. Give me my post-apocalyptic Blade cosplay.
@@Scyth0r Oh yeah. Hematophage is pretty cool. But you can't choose that from level up, only from completing that one quest. You know the one 😀
Probably the 2 best lines in the series are in this episode.
1. "Azz jerky don't make itself". So true.
2. "Golden Rule motherfugger"
Up there with "She steals dads!"
Ha... OMG "Snip Snip" is Matt Berry... from The i.t Crowd! A UK comedy tv series!
17:02 is tht the "I like money" dude from Idiocracy who sits on the toilet recliner in front of the TV 😂😂
No better gift for Friday night then The Media Knights releasing another episode of my new favorite show ❤
There was a teaser of Snip Snip in the end credits of episode 3. These end credits are artistic illustrations each time different and... I think you should include them in your full reactions. I had the same regret with my favorite Tarantino, Kill Bill, (I can't wait for you to react to the 4 Tarantinos that you haven't seen yet by the way, but everything comes in time to those who wait 🙂): the credits Endings are sometimes an important part of the film or episode, which adds new, important elements, and can spark great reactions.
Anyway, Fallout is a superb work, I enjoy rewatching the episodes with you.
Love you guys ❤
And... 151K suscribers 🥳🥳🥳. Good job Knights !
So glad to hear you’ve been enjoying these! We’ll make sure to add the credit segment in our full length 😄 Thank you for supporting us for such a long time. You rock!
'it aint the meat, its the motion' has to be the most hilarious song, perfect for the water break moment lol
This drops on my birthday?! What a great gift!!
Happy Birthday Man!
In addition to all the other callbacks and moments that make us reinterpret things we've already seen alluded to in previous episodes, for me this episode struck so beautifully because the way they actively explored the contrast between Lucy and the Ghoul harked so strongly back to that single line from Wilzig in episode 2: _The question is, will you still want the same things when you've become a different animal altogether?_
Also, just wanted to say I'm having such a great time with your reactions! I'm only up to episode 5 myself, currently watching it a couple of episodes at a time when I catch up fortnightly with my brother, so I'm pretty close to where you Knights are. Loving your takes and your insights =)
Ok about robots in fallout. It's been 200 years since most of them have had proper maintenance and a lot haven't had any maintenance at all, so pretty much all of them are malfunctioning. Some are just a little quirky some can be straight up homicidal. So don't expect them to act logically.
Fantastic commentary you guys. This show is so good.
Sometime a Ghoul can turn feral. Sometimes it happens right away upon Goulifikation sometimes it takes decades or centuries or may not happen at all. A feral ghoul is an organic landmine. they stand,sit or lie around until they sense vibrations. Then they attack. In the game they are even faster and more feroucius.
This episode was where the show really grabbed me. Nothing good ever happens in a Super Duper Mart!
loved the reaction so far! i hope you guys will drop the reaction everyday😂
Remember back in episode 1, 32 and 33 traded dwellers on a tri-annual basis with no contact except between overseers over terminals so the two years ago unalive event in 32 wouldn’t have been known.
I love the progression of Lucy's character in this, and she is my favorite character followed closely by the Ghoul. Just remember the Golden rule motherf**ker lol.
2:50
in the games, those are actual items you can take.
good for healing, if you don't mind getting some rads while at it, especially if you have the food sanitizer.
This episode and the season finale are my absolute faves
Lucy basically entered the super duper mart, fought a boss and came out with loot, including new boots...
New t shirts on the internet...
"ASS JERKY DON'T MAKE ITSELF..."
Lucy's first kill was using a finger from the Wasteland, now a part of her. Keep Lucy's (old) finger and what happens to it in mind. Such excellent writing.
Reminds me a little of Luke Skywalker's glove-covered bionic hand, the part of him that became like Darth Vader.
"Golden Rule, Motherfucker." My favorite line of the series. Perfectly captures Lucy's naivete turning into a harder and stronger version of herself.
22:58 The interior of that Super Duper Mart is exactly something you would see in the game. Shelves in disarray but still some random loot, trash everywhere.
I just watched an interview with the actress who plays Lucy where she said it was her idea to make herself look as rough as she is. That's dedication right there.
Honestly the fact that they haven't used a Frank Sinatra song ONCE in this show is criminal. Hope they'll do it next season.
Fly me to the moon would be killer on Fallout I always thought, especially as a credits song
I'm obsessed with this show
The robot is a Mr Gutsy, the Army version of Mr Handy, a robot house butler.
Mr Gutsies were basically multi tasking field medics and murderous machines.
It's not a Gutsy. Mr. Gutsy has a different voice and a flamethrower.
6:40 Lucy drinks the water and her Geiger counter says, "f**k it, I'm out." Never bothers ticking again.
I love how the show represents how snip snip really lags in the game! Very accurate 😅
The Actor who does the voice of robot and the ghouls' actor buddy from the party is named Matt Berry, amazing comedic actor! You guys should also check out What we do in the shadows.. which he is amazing in. also, the IT Crowd a british sitcom.. :D :D it'd be awesome to see you react to both! :D :D
It was indeed mercy and lunch lol
Rodgers was already a Ghoul, but now he's run out of chems and is turning a full feral ghoul.
Yea nobody was confused about that
"How the Hell is she going to do this?!"
Well... She DID recently cut off Wilzig's head. 😉
The wrist device Vaulties wear is a PipBoy. In the games it serves as the UI for many functions (flashlight, health status, maps, inventory management, geiger counter, computer interface, etc.).
This show is awesome. You two are awesome. Thanks!
😁👍
In the pilot it’s described as a triannual trade with vault 32, so I assume the vaults only communicate every 3 years. If the last sign of life in 32 was 2 years prior to now, whatever happened in vault 32 happened a year after their last scheduled communication.
Moises Aries, the guy who plays Lucy's brother, has come a looong way from his early days in Hannah Montana xD He also had an excellent villain role in Ender's Game.
07:07: I see it as more almost like a "Joker" thing. "I want to prove that to survive in this world, you have to turn into me. . . because if that's not true, it means I became this for nothing." Not the "ghoul" part, that he had no real control over, but remember how uncomfortable he was with even a character he was playing in a movie gunning down a man in cold blood. Now he's become someone who kills without a second thought, and does all kinds of other horrible things to survive. I imagine he's coping with it by telling himself the world doesn't have room in it for morality anymore, and doesn't dare contemplate that he might be wrong about that.
Filmed in the beautiful country of Namibia, absolutely love seeing the landscape of the Namibian Desert.
"My name is Martha."
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT NAME!
Fun fact about Chet: Originally he wasn't going to do much after the first episode, but they liked the actor so much they increased his part and added in him hooking up with Stephanie.
To expand on this episodes ending... Lucy was in his position that was in the film... she had the power and he was on the floor... all she had to do is shoot or even walk away to be exactly what he had become... She didn't... Whilst he caved to the pressure of his higher ups in the film... she didn't... she helped him back up and did not shoot him, she instead fought her "higher ups" and maintained her standards. Expanding on the line "I may end up looking like you, but i will never be like you".
The more times you watch this show the more little things you pick up and see.
Lucy and Maximus are what Rey and Finn should have been in the Disney Star Wars sequels..LUCY STANDIN' ON BUSINESS!!🔥🔥🔥
You gotta think, The Ghoul/Coop has had over 200 years worth of bad days. Considering that, it’s surprising he’s got any humanity left in him at all.
Biggest fan from Indonesia! Been waiting for this. Let's go!!
Hope you enjoy!
@@OfficialMediaKnights just finished watching and as always, I really enjoyed it! Look forward to the next episode
I love that this was posted right as I sat down for lunch break. Thanks guys!
Enjoy your lunch! Thanks for watching man! ❤️
14:33 PIP-BOY
13:04 my thought on why fix her finger when he's just going to harvest her organs anyway is this, it can be assumed organs from a "mint condition" person would fetch a higher price.
We have Pip Boys! We just call them Apple Watches. 😆
"hank" "chet" "norm" "bert" "lucy" and i'm sure I'm forgetting some, but i like the 4 letter names. is there a fred or a greg?
good for chetbert, nailing a widow, he's the funniest character and I'm glad he gets along with Norm, the best character.
Greetings from Turkey, cant wait for episode 5
I think that was Matt Berry as Snip Snip
The arm computer is a PIPBOY 3000A (personal information processor)
Smoothskins is what ghouls call regular folks that have… smooth skins as opposed to what their skin looks like.
The gadget on the vault dwellers’ wrist is called a Pip-Boy, a pre-war personal computer that was mostly developed for Vault-Tec to be used in the vaults. It’s how you access your inventory, character stats, quest list, world map, and radio in the games. It also had a Geiger counter. ☢️
24:30 You mean didn't change.
also, 15:58 the video of the mice heavily implies that this is what happened to Vault 32.
The guy voicing the robot had roles in the Spongebob movies. I thought he sounded familiar! I won't lie though, for a moment I thought it was Simon Pegg 😂
I've said this on another reaction, but with this show: If something doesn't seem to make sense, it's probably something you missed/misunderstood, not a problem with the show. Fixing Lucy's finger is a good example. It's a medical bot reprogrammed to keep their 'stock' in the best condition possible for harvesting. It didn't know she'd be harvested immediately, so it was following its programming.
That's not normally true, but this show is SO well written, it's best to assume that and think about what that missed thing could be, rather than writing it off as a plot hole or illogical.
Roger at the beginning was already a Ghoul. He was becoming feral because he didn't have anymore vials. When a Ghoul becomes feral it's like what you saw those last few Ghouls acting like that killed the two stoner characters near the end. They just become mindless killing machines.
Ghouls are extremely lucky survivors who simply don't die when just enough radiation hits them instead of killing them it gave them a mutated appearance inside and out essentially leaving them immortal. Though, mind you they're not exactly mutants themselves. They simply look horrific due to the effects of the radiation from the Fallout. There are actual mutants in the Fallout universe but the show hasn't introduced them yet.
But yes, the games originally had Ghouls going feral randomly and there was no hard and fast explanation or cure for it. The show is seemingly introducing this drug in the vials they need to take off to hold off becoming feral. There's a few theories and or game and lore moments that kind of contend with the idea but, I think it might just be a retconned idea they're just introducing for the sake of explaining why the Ghoul in the show is so old without succumbing and going feral. It'll probably end up in future games for better or worse.
Also, there's been a few explorations of the Ghoul condition before in the games. There's a particularly sad side quest in one of the DLC for Fallout 4 that's very good and shows what happens to Ghouls who apparently don't have the vials they need but also don't even understand their condition. It was the entries in a diary of a young woman at an amusement part alongside her co-workers who got stuck there when the bombs fell. A radiation storm blew into the region and blanketed the park with what was left of the Fallout from a bomb going off in a nearby city. For those among them that didn't die they became Ghouls and then one by one they began to become feral.
The girl left the park eventually on her own exploring settlements of surviving humans near the park and asking all the right questions but finding no answers. In the end, she planned to taker her own life and gave one last sad journal entry about it. It's a stirring part of the DLC and it's just a side quest. Fallout is full of those all over the place in side quests or little bits of lore you'll find from characters in the world and you can either piece together or find clues that detail their last moments.
Cooper Howard took the cannibalism perk it seems. Good way to stay fed in the games, just eat your kills.
Love how they keep sliding in references that the fans of the game can catch!
You are right, dark secrets are lurking in the shadows...
in every fallout you find a dead person who did it with a screwdriver and toaster, or a knife and toaster,.etc,..
In so far as Lucy drinking the radioactive water, there's definitely a lot of risk but also a question of when will she die of dehydration anyway? If that meter is in millisieverts (mS/h) she'd likely just be dead so I assume they're in the older milliroentgens and so just got a dose on the order of maybe 600 mR/h for the water she consumed. That over time would definitely give you radiation sickness but likely not acute radiation sickness and death in hours or days. And a much higher cancer risk. She definitely needs Rad Away (Fallout "magic" radiation fix/reduction)
All the people in the supermarket are not mutants, they’re ghouls and feral ghouls. Mutants are completely different type of enemy.
ooohh yeah. when the SUPER DUPER MART was approached i first thought wed get Super Mutant!
though i episode one when The Ghoul was introduced, that one guy referred to him as a Mutant which i think is why a lot of people not familiar with the games called the Ghouls Mutants since the other REAL Mutants from the games have not yet appeared on the show (they have in episode 2 but not yet really shown or addressed as such).
Reminds me of some Bible parallels. Like when Jesus said “A light has come into the world but the world of man preferred the darkness because their deeds we’re evil” of course he meant himself, but I can see how Lucy is this light in the show that shines in the darkness of post nuclear America
Personally i think The Ghoul pouring out his water when Lucy asked is almost him being nice. The water in the Wasteland is heavily irradiated, it would cause RAD sickness if she drank his water, which he is fine drinking cuz he's already a ghoul.