The Value of Progressive Presses - How I Got Those Results in 57 Minutes
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- Several folks said "you didn't show us the actual reloading part!" You're right, so here's a short demonstration of how I actually did it. The example press is a Lee Pro 1000, since that's what I own, but any other quality progressive press (Dillon, Hornady, RCBS, etc.) will give you similar results.
@fishin1952 I've noticed the same thing with .45 Colt cases and the resizing die. With the powder-thru-expander die, the flaring process will require a little "oomph" regardless of the type of case. I see it to a slightly lesser extent with .38 Special, too. Saw your post saying that you'd tried cleaning the dies and that this helped a lot.
Glad the vids helped!
300 rounds in an hour (rounding up) = 300 in 3600 seconds or roughly one every six seconds. Assuming a slow, deliberate rate of fire and time taken to reload the revolver or lever-action carbine, that means you can actually load ammunition as fast as it can be shot. Now all you need is a hundred yards of clear land with a nice backstop, right next to the press...
@tharr2008 Just took a look at it last night. Unless my currnet wooden-handle one breaks, I doubt it, but it does seem like a pretty good idea. Thanks for pointing it out!
@sfliberal I've been into reloading a little over 2 years now, I just recently ordered the Lee Production IV Pot melter. Some do shoot cast bullets in their AR15 but not me, the small gas tube is often troublesome with cast 223 bullets.I do have a Saiga 7.62x39. I like the multi-caliber options of the LoadMaster, and it's ability to match the production speed of the Dillon. 5 stations are better than 3. Since this will be the LAST press I buy, I think the LoadMaster would be better for my needs
@Jr11875 They most certainly can, but it's recommended to run them at near full power, due to the thickness of the brass at the neck. According to Lyman's 49th Edition, if these rounds are downloaded, that extra-thick neck brass won't stretch to seal the chamber, and you'll get major sooting issues on the cartridges.
Great video CowboyT!!!
@sdt11670 They are lee's carbide 45 acp. I used a little bit of One Shot cleaner and dry lube on a Q tip and cleaned out both dies and it seemed to help a lot. The dies were very dirty could be from manufacturing. who knows.. Will try to to clean again and start loading some more. I have doing some modifications to my loading bench like Gavin on ultimate loader did going on just about finished. Thanks for your help
@undergroundbasement Either the Pro 1000 or LoadMaster will do well for your .223 (and 7.62x39, BTW). Which one you choose depends on whether or not you want to reload rounds like, say, .308 Win or .30-06 progressively...or if you're planning on using cast bullets in your rifle rounds (many do). If either one of these is true, then get the LM. If not, then the Pro 1000 should do the trick nicely.
@sfliberal
Yes the second station is the priming station and you can put any die in it that doesn't deprime. I usually use Lyman M dies in that station or sometimes i will use a Lee universal expander die there and on some calibers i don't use a die at all in station two. Most people use a sizing die in station two and a universal decap die in station one. There are a lot of things about the LM that i like better than the pro, but i would have to say the best thing is speed & bullet placement.
@absolutsoju Not really. Titegroup was specifically formulated for larger cases like this (also works great in .44 Special). It is by design relatively insensitive to position in the case. For those concerned about double-charging, of course it's a concern. But it's no different from the decades of using Bullseye in .38 Special cases. It's just a matter of paying attention to what you're doing.
@AJourneyOfYourSoul True. Richard Lee has singlehandedly made reloading at a good clip affordable to mere mortals like us with his designs. I'm hoping that someday Lee combines the Classic Turret and the progressive operation of the Pro 1000 to make a sort of 4-station "Classic Pro 1000". That would just be suh-weet.
@chios1958 Small/large primers, I find they're about the same. What I do find different is that the bigger the case, the slower I have to go due to the resizing function. That means about 300 rounds/hour with .45 Colt, but more like 375/hour with .38 Spl.
Thanks, everyone!
I've got the "aluminum" Lee Breech Lock Single Stage and the "basic" Lee Turret Press which has the same body and lever arm as the Lee Pro 1000. I'm looking for fast production of 223 Rem. Lee Factory Sales.com says the Lee Pro 1000 is designed primarily for pistol rds but will reload rifle rds up to 2 and 5/16" overall length.They sell a Pro 1000 in 223 , but I don't know, the Lee LoadMaster in 223 seems like the better way to go, it's only $50 more,it'll be the last press I'll ever buy.
I didn't like the bullet placement on my pro so i sold it and bought the loadmaster and boy what a difference it made.
nice setup man
@Mrcaffinebean Thanks, and hope all's going well with ya! Sorry for the late response.
The video was great I got 2 broken pro 1000s in parts and your videos helped me put them back together. Now they work very smooth but I do have an issue with the brass in the 1st and 2nd station the pull down and the pull up is very hard. This is the pull up in the flaring stage. I understand the decaping stage. what do you think
fishin1952 1 hour ago
@sdt11670 I've heard both good and bad about the LM. One of these days I'm going to pick one up and try it out, since a 5-station press would be kinda fun to try out. The second station is for priming, right? Can you put a die in there and use that station for something (e. g. universal flaring die)?
I just got mine set up and ready to do some .40S&W. As soon as I get some bullets and a factory crimp die so I can take the Glock bulge out of the brass I can start using my Pro 1000.
Naturally! :-)
Lee has come out with a roller handle for the pro 1000, got mine a few days ago works great. Are U going to get one?
Question about the lee pro1000 I have set up all my dies and started to TRY and reload 9mm ammo, I have found that all goes well except for the primer.. It randomly chooses when it will prime a case. I don't understand why?? And in result to that the powder will fall In and around the press.. I aslo find Sometimes it will bring a primer up even when there is no case at the station. Any tips on why??
Do you find that your primer feed is better with large primers as compared to small primers? I guess i mean smoother. Thanks
Since Titegroup is a low volume powder, wouldn't it be a bad choice to load in a large case like the 45Colt?
@fishin1952
Are you sure that your dies are carbide? It sounds like you are using steel dies without enough lube. You need carbide dies in a progressive press.
Good vid Cowboy!
PS: this is jakeiscrazy
@undergroundbasement The LM is not at all a bad choice. Be sure to check out "The Loadmaster Zone" Web site. They've got a lot of good vids there for that press. Go gettum, bro.