@@mattyryon I feel the source material is not a reflection of out time. Respecting it by not adapting it, is a better way to go. Maybe expanding on a what if story or elseworlds expansion, which is what his show is, that's respect.
Yes and so cool how he twisted Watchmen into gaslighting event that has little to do with characters. That’s so freaking cool! ... appropriated ideas from Watchmen ?! Thank you Todd Ohillips for actually
Paper Girls is such a clear greenlight for anyone trying capture that "Stranger Things" magic, but with something sufficiently different yet exceedingly awesome. Plus lots of great opportunities for a completely unique color pallete and lighting configurations to try and capture the feel of the book, in a show.
1:12 I still maintain the one Lost episode that was specifically centered on Nikki & Paulo is a very good episode. Yes, the entirety of them in the series is on the annoying and superfluous side, but looking at it by itself, it's a pretty good self-contained mystery. I always refer to it as "the Forrest Gump episode" of Lost, because you get several key places/events/times within the series you're already familiar with but this one time of seeing them from the POV of this other couple people, putting a significantly different spin on them.
I always thought the whole spider bite / temporary coma sleep deal should have been how Jack's Dad faked his death and was in the casket and then of course be alive and play a bigger part of the whole dharma initiative.
Which shows you know nothing of the watchmen story. Everyone seems to miss the nuance of Alan Moore's story. His stories have layers like an onion. This show is very superficial and surface level. No layers like what Alan Moore had. No we just get a pandering mess.
Ymir Fritzche Congratulations. You just spouted a bunch meaningless bullshit and buzzwords to sound smart. Lemme guess. You’re a big Zach “I’M AN ADULT!” Snyder fan, aren’t you? Rorschach was a misunderstood good guy, right?
Yes, it is crazy , because Lindelof was behind the garbage Star Trek:Into Darkness film and he completely sh*tvall over the graphic novels with exactly zero compelling characters or no references to the original characters. And the 46% audience score is continuing the differenctial between critics and audiences. Destroying story canon and marginalization of originals isn’t working.
Gotta say, I was skeptical about this Watchmen show, but after the first two episodes, I'm really impressed so far. It feels like Watchmen. It's incredibly intelligent. At first I thought I was about to be beaten over the head with racial cliches, and it immediately threw a curveball that showed this was going to be much more thoughtful and substantive, and hasn't stopped throwing curveballs. I really hope it can keep it up at this level. Lost had me all the way through until the finale, where it fell apart for me. I want to see this one deliver. And I definitely have to go back and check out Leftovers. I'm late to the party on that one.
@@MadlandsMedia Fight sceens? Yeah because the comic was about those.... Only Snyder prioritazied the fight sceens with his edgy editing in the movie...
I’d really like to see him talk on Tom King’s The Vision and Mister Miracle. Lindelof is an admirer of King and I would love to see the two of them work together in the future. Love this series and you couldn’t have picked a better host to take the reigns from Schnepp! Cheers!
Funny thing, when i 1st read watchmen my focus mostly gravitated twds rosharch. I wasnt really interested in manhattan or any of the rest. Not that i didn't like them. But when doomsday clock came out, i realized how i significantly missed out on manhattan as a character. Now im all about manhattan.
Aw man i can only imagine how proud John would've been to see the success of this show ( Comic Book Shopping ) and how far it has gone and the huge numbers of views their getting Today !
I never realised he was that much of a nerd. I loved Lost despite the ending and less than stellar parts it's great to see someone who obviously cares about their craft.
Well now if Damon Lindelof becomes a showrunner of the wicked + the divine and/or paper girls we know why. I do wish Amy Dallen was there to see all those handpicked comics.
They really need to get Ed Piskor and Jim Rugg from Cartoonist Kayfabe to do the recommendations then it wouldn’t just be mainstream and superhero books most comic people already have heard of.
I've never forgave him for the ending of Lost, but good to hear he is a fan of Saga. I am glad he used the Tulsa Massacre as the backdrop. Like him, I never heard about the incident until now. Hopefully with Watchmen and HBO, people will revisit and learn from this sad part of history.
Aww, man. For a second there I thought someone was FINALLY gonna talk to him about writing Ultimate Hulk vs. Wolverine. No one EVER asks him about that! Still supercool, though. OMG I’d KILL to go shopping for comics with these guys! :D
Is anyone else not at all a fan of Golden Apple? Where they have recently filmed ALL the new CBM Shopping? It’s a small shop and they NEVER have the first issues of the series he gives to them, which is to me so dumb to give them a volume 4 or 3 to a series, I feel bad for the guests cause they will go in not knowing what’s going on. The earlier episodes back in the day would switch and it would be fresh and new, and for example HUGE and GREAT places like Meltdown comics were amazing stores and had EVERYTHING. If anything I’d rather them permanently have the show at a big and better looking place like meltdown, if you aren’t going to change, Golden Apple just is small and crumby, the floors are dirty. This sounds like such a Golden Apple roast, sorry Golden Apple, but this being one of my favourite shows and recently it feels kinda dry with its main store. Golden Apple must’ve sponsored, and to me they need to venture to the better places.
Probably not, but that's the point. It's about the principle, not the quality. You don't have to agree with him, but he made his point clear a long time ago.
@@soufian2733 Honestly the show is a genuinely great successor and really captures the spirit of watchmen and uses Television and Film like the way Moore used the medium of comics in the original story. While Doomsday Clock is a fun fanfiction type of novel. HBO's Watchmen is more of a genuine and better continuation of the story.
Crazy how even after the backlash from LOST, he's still killing it in the industry. Also pretty sad for Damon, as a big Watchmen fan having to accept that Alan Moore would hate his work despite having not seen it just cause he hates ppl adapting his work. Love the art not the artist I guess.
I noticed DCeased on the reciept. Would have loved to hear his take on that. Its one of my personal favourites. Tom Taylor has now written 2 of the best elseworld universes for DC.
Really sad that Collider stops comic book shopping episodes.. Perhaps it's because of pandemic.. But if you continue to have guest stars, we'd rather have someone who really loves comic books like Lindelof, Giacchino among the big stars
This is it. This is the true value of this show:. Allowing Hollywood figures or public figures *Prove* to we the fans that they have some Comic Book CRED.
Love the Watchmen show so far. Was definitely skeptical but it feels like a unique blend of West World and the essence and tone of Watchmen, as a metal narrative on the 80's - but done now, in 2019. Also : Lindelof is like a younger, cooler David Cross. How have I never noticed this before! lol
Not loving “something is killing the children” Knowing how close tynion is to Snyder it feels too close to wytches and a series vertigo did last year called Imaginary fiends. Both of those series being superior to tynions.
I like this show but kinda feel like the format needs a shakeup. It feels short and hurried, like you're racing to finish the episode. I think it might work better if you asked a question and then picked a comic based on the answer or something, and take your time a bit. Why cant this be 20 or 30 minutes? Every episode feels like you're in a hurry to jam a bunch of pre-sellected books in their hands and rush them out the door. Or maybe take the Amoeba aproach and let people pick stuff out and then talk about what and why they chose it. I dunno, you guys pull some great guests but the interviews always seem so surface level and rushed. Do you only have them for like 30 mins or something?
6 people can board flight 815 and get Lost this is a great episode! Plus the dude gave us Ultimate Wolverine Vs Hulk and some of the greatest entertainment ever!
Even if you're a Moore fan you should watch it. It's not an adaptation and you should watch it, just for the Tulsa Massacre history and influence alone. Moore should watch it too. And I'm not saying if I like it or not, cause I don't know. But in my shitty opinion it's already better than the movie, before watchmen and doomsday clock. But it's not better than Pax Americana #1.
Before he starts spending money on comics I would like a refund for Prometheus, World War Z, Cowboys vs Aliens and Star Trek: Into Darkness. Four of the worst written films I have ever seen in my life. It's time I will never get back and for that...I will never forgive him. He is a hack.
Lew Archer 1949 I read in graphic novel form which is still expensive but I would never buy single issues every week because that’s taking money on a whole different level
Tyler Yellowbird , yeah, instead you should blindingly be a sheep and follow a small group of critics, and use their parroted talking points, so you can smugly strawman anybody into being a “right winger”, because you don’t have the capacity to engage in a discussion. You seem bright. 👍🤣
Lol all of you bitching about how he should have read the comic, because you doesnt like how the show (which is NOT and adaptation, but a sequel of the comic) didnt turned out the way, you thought it would. Meanwhile its in the actual video, that he is a megafan of the original graphic novel, borrowed many elements of it to Lost and even got a FUCKING BLURB ON THE ACTUAL WATCHMEN TPB!
Farin Vacation and watchmen looks good so far cause is full of mystery, but I think this mofo has no idea how is going to end. It looks so much as lost did, which was a disaster.
The Leftovers series finale is one of the best.
still hope one day The Hunt will get released.
The whole last season is a fucking beatiful piece of art.
Between that and Avatar, it's kind of proof that 3 seasons is the perfect length for a show.
I love he actually has read or owns all these comics already.
Almost everyone in Hollywood has read these. They've all been optioned or are being considered for it.
@@brianewing5530 Not everyone Robert Pattinson didn't know there were "so many Batman comics".
Crazy how that can be true and him have such little knowledge of the source material he bases his show on
@@mattyryon I feel the source material is not a reflection of out time. Respecting it by not adapting it, is a better way to go. Maybe expanding on a what if story or elseworlds expansion, which is what his show is, that's respect.
Yes and so cool how he twisted Watchmen into gaslighting event that has little to do with characters. That’s so freaking cool! ... appropriated ideas from Watchmen ?!
Thank you Todd Ohillips for actually
Paper Girls is such a clear greenlight for anyone trying capture that "Stranger Things" magic, but with something sufficiently different yet exceedingly awesome.
Plus lots of great opportunities for a completely unique color pallete and lighting configurations to try and capture the feel of the book, in a show.
Also female cast.
@@rocker00000 indeed
One of the best ones yet. Love to listen to this guy talk about what he does. Great job
1:12 I still maintain the one Lost episode that was specifically centered on Nikki & Paulo is a very good episode. Yes, the entirety of them in the series is on the annoying and superfluous side, but looking at it by itself, it's a pretty good self-contained mystery. I always refer to it as "the Forrest Gump episode" of Lost, because you get several key places/events/times within the series you're already familiar with but this one time of seeing them from the POV of this other couple people, putting a significantly different spin on them.
Kevin W I agree. It’s a brilliantly dark episode imo
I always thought the whole spider bite / temporary coma sleep deal should have been how Jack's Dad faked his death and was in the casket and then of course be alive and play a bigger part of the whole dharma initiative.
Comic Book Shopping is by far my favorite show on collider!!! Love it!
The Leftovers is incredible. I was more excited to see Watchmen the show thanks to Leftovers more than watchmen the graphic novel, which is crazy!
Which shows you know nothing of the watchmen story. Everyone seems to miss the nuance of Alan Moore's story. His stories have layers like an onion. This show is very superficial and surface level. No layers like what Alan Moore had. No we just get a pandering mess.
Me too
Ymir Fritzche
Congratulations. You just spouted a bunch meaningless bullshit and buzzwords to sound smart.
Lemme guess. You’re a big Zach “I’M AN ADULT!” Snyder fan, aren’t you? Rorschach was a misunderstood good guy, right?
@@archer1949 The show is shit. The film is shit. The only good Watchmen is the original comic.
Yes, it is crazy , because Lindelof was behind the garbage Star Trek:Into Darkness film and he completely sh*tvall over the graphic novels with exactly zero compelling characters or no references to the original characters. And the 46% audience score is continuing the differenctial between critics and audiences.
Destroying story canon and marginalization of originals isn’t working.
Gotta say, I was skeptical about this Watchmen show, but after the first two episodes, I'm really impressed so far. It feels like Watchmen. It's incredibly intelligent. At first I thought I was about to be beaten over the head with racial cliches, and it immediately threw a curveball that showed this was going to be much more thoughtful and substantive, and hasn't stopped throwing curveballs. I really hope it can keep it up at this level. Lost had me all the way through until the finale, where it fell apart for me. I want to see this one deliver. And I definitely have to go back and check out Leftovers. I'm late to the party on that one.
No need to lie to yourself. Feels nothing like the same universe. Too much pandering and the fight scenes are so cringy. Show is shit.
@@MadlandsMedia Here , here my friend....
Episode 3 might be the best one yet. IDK if it is going to keep up this pace or quality but if anyone can pull this off it is Damon Lindelof.
@@MadlandsMedia Fight sceens? Yeah because the comic was about those.... Only Snyder prioritazied the fight sceens with his edgy editing in the movie...
@@MadlandsMedia It's your loss man. 5 episodes in, so far so good. I feel it could be a underrated classic series.
Jeremy Irons!!!! NOT Jeffrey Irons!!!!!
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I was checking if someone else noticed smh YOU CANT DO SCAR LIKE THAT?!
We need an episode with one of the actors of titans or doom patrol, please!
Totally agree
Alan Ritchson would be a cool one to get. He was a great Aquaman in Smallville too.
Brendon fraser wpuld be great
Lost, Leftovers, and now Watchmen.
Lindelof will always be one of my biggest creative influences
Hopefully, you won't ruin franchises too like he did with Star Trek and Prometheus/Alien
Hes the Dane Cook of Hollywood
@Farin Vacation Exactly 💯
That's sad.
I’d really like to see him talk on Tom King’s The Vision and Mister Miracle. Lindelof is an admirer of King and I would love to see the two of them work together in the future. Love this series and you couldn’t have picked a better host to take the reigns from Schnepp! Cheers!
Yo! How did you get Damon Lindelof? Dude's mind is a powerhouse of storytelling.The Leftovers is masterful. Watchmen was brilliant.
LOL
Lost and The Leftovers are probably two of the greatest shows EVER. Thank you for that, Damon.
Can’t wait for Sunday and great interview as always
Funny thing, when i 1st read watchmen my focus mostly gravitated twds rosharch. I wasnt really interested in manhattan or any of the rest. Not that i didn't like them. But when doomsday clock came out, i realized how i significantly missed out on manhattan as a character. Now im all about manhattan.
Aw man i can only imagine how proud John would've been to see the success of this show ( Comic Book Shopping ) and how far it has gone and the huge numbers of views their getting Today !
love these episodes so much!
I never realised he was that much of a nerd. I loved Lost despite the ending and less than stellar parts it's great to see someone who obviously cares about their craft.
Well now if Damon Lindelof becomes a showrunner of the wicked + the divine and/or paper girls we know why. I do wish Amy Dallen was there to see all those handpicked comics.
Happy to see a true fan tackle the series. Loving Watchmen so far, can't wait for Episode 3.
I saw the X-men in there, I would have liked to hear his thoughts on the Hickman reset of mutants.
Please bring this show back on collider.
Thanks for mentioning that one shot Joker from John Carpenter. Been meaning to pick that up.
Had never heard of it. Top of my list now.
This is the real reason I watch this show 😂
I like how Damon pays for them and then Coy hands them to him and says “these are yours”, Damon responds, “For Keeps?” Haha what year you bought them.
They really need to get Ed Piskor and Jim Rugg from Cartoonist Kayfabe to do the recommendations then it wouldn’t just be mainstream and superhero books most comic people already have heard of.
I have been obsessed with Damon Lindelof since I was 14 and watched the pilot of Lost 🥰 genuinely so proud of him 👏♥️
I've never forgave him for the ending of Lost, but good to hear he is a fan of Saga. I am glad he used the Tulsa Massacre as the backdrop. Like him, I never heard about the incident until now. Hopefully with Watchmen and HBO, people will revisit and learn from this sad part of history.
Aww, man. For a second there I thought someone was FINALLY gonna talk to him about writing Ultimate Hulk vs. Wolverine. No one EVER asks him about that! Still supercool, though. OMG I’d KILL to go shopping for comics with these guys! :D
Is anyone else not at all a fan of Golden Apple? Where they have recently filmed ALL the new CBM Shopping? It’s a small shop and they NEVER have the first issues of the series he gives to them, which is to me so dumb to give them a volume 4 or 3 to a series, I feel bad for the guests cause they will go in not knowing what’s going on. The earlier episodes back in the day would switch and it would be fresh and new, and for example HUGE and GREAT places like Meltdown comics were amazing stores and had EVERYTHING. If anything I’d rather them permanently have the show at a big and better looking place like meltdown, if you aren’t going to change, Golden Apple just is small and crumby, the floors are dirty. This sounds like such a Golden Apple roast, sorry Golden Apple, but this being one of my favourite shows and recently it feels kinda dry with its main store. Golden Apple must’ve sponsored, and to me they need to venture to the better places.
I like how he gave respect to Alan Moore. But has Moore EVER had anything nice to say about any project that is a derivative of his work?
Probably not, but that's the point. It's about the principle, not the quality. You don't have to agree with him, but he made his point clear a long time ago.
I wish he would watch this new show. For some reason, I feel like he would like it
@@soufian2733 Honestly the show is a genuinely great successor and really captures the spirit of watchmen and uses Television and Film like the way Moore used the medium of comics in the original story. While Doomsday Clock is a fun fanfiction type of novel. HBO's Watchmen is more of a genuine and better continuation of the story.
This was awesome 🙌
Crazy how even after the backlash from LOST, he's still killing it in the industry. Also pretty sad for Damon, as a big Watchmen fan having to accept that Alan Moore would hate his work despite having not seen it just cause he hates ppl adapting his work. Love the art not the artist I guess.
Always thought that was weird they make the guest pay for the comics.
Matthies Oliveira
This show is inspired by Sneaker shopping on Complex, they also make the guest pay.
@@houndhoundhound That's an explanation for it I guess. I have no reference to what you're talking about but maybe that's why it's weird to me.
And the comics are expensive
Should have given him a copy of "The Death of Jean deWolfe" too.
I noticed DCeased on the reciept. Would have loved to hear his take on that. Its one of my personal favourites. Tom Taylor has now written 2 of the best elseworld universes for DC.
I read the last issue today, and holy crap DCeased is amazing! Tom Taylor is a genius.
all these sexy titles i didn't know of [like Something is killing the children]. will get. much thanks Coy!
Watchmen starring Jeffrey Irons? 8:18 good job guys
Could’ve recommended Coats’s comics. Not sure if he knows that he works for Marvel.
Really? “Jeffrey” Irons?
RIP John Schnepp
Alright, Damon loves Brian K. Vaughan; your taste is on point.
Bret Reed yeah he had Brian K Vaughan write for Lost!!
Love the joker book. John Carpenter ❤.
Really sad that Collider stops comic book shopping episodes.. Perhaps it's because of pandemic.. But if you continue to have guest stars, we'd rather have someone who really loves comic books like Lindelof, Giacchino among the big stars
Fire Jack Hine
Seems like Watchmen is actually interesting
Damon would wear a “fish nun” t-shirt!
Watchmen is the best show on the tele this year....btw saga fans are called sag nuts
Lol or nut sags
Tulsa. Black Wall Street. Look it up.
This is it. This is the true value of this show:. Allowing Hollywood figures or public figures *Prove* to we the fans that they have some Comic Book CRED.
Dude, you just said it perfectly.
I thought collider was supposed to buy the books for the guest, WTF you made him buy his own books?
But what comics did he Reeeally want to buy?
Love the Watchmen show so far. Was definitely skeptical but it feels like a unique blend of West World and the essence and tone of Watchmen, as a metal narrative on the 80's - but done now, in 2019.
Also : Lindelof is like a younger, cooler David Cross.
How have I never noticed this before! lol
Release “The Hunt”
"this shows cancelled" ah, so he can see the future of Watchmen then.
I think you call Saga fans, Sagits.
Not loving “something is killing the children”
Knowing how close tynion is to Snyder it feels too close to wytches and a series vertigo did last year called Imaginary fiends. Both of those series being superior to tynions.
Baseball cap, blazer with hoodie underneath. The dweebie guys three piece suit
Damon Lindelof is the greatest series creator ever
LOL
Can you get Kofi Kingston
I like this show but kinda feel like the format needs a shakeup. It feels short and hurried, like you're racing to finish the episode. I think it might work better if you asked a question and then picked a comic based on the answer or something, and take your time a bit. Why cant this be 20 or 30 minutes? Every episode feels like you're in a hurry to jam a bunch of pre-sellected books in their hands and rush them out the door. Or maybe take the Amoeba aproach and let people pick stuff out and then talk about what and why they chose it. I dunno, you guys pull some great guests but the interviews always seem so surface level and rushed. Do you only have them for like 30 mins or something?
I def agree that each episode should be at least 20 minutes plus, for sure.
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6 people can board flight 815 and get Lost this is a great episode! Plus the dude gave us Ultimate Wolverine Vs Hulk and some of the greatest entertainment ever!
Never recommend doomsday clock...NEVER !!!!
Even if you're a Moore fan you should watch it. It's not an adaptation and you should watch it, just for the Tulsa Massacre history and influence alone. Moore should watch it too. And I'm not saying if I like it or not, cause I don't know. But in my shitty opinion it's already better than the movie, before watchmen and doomsday clock. But it's not better than Pax Americana #1.
Moore doesn't like anything to be fair. Anything anyone he does he gives it no chance. Like "shit, shit, shit"
We need 5 more Damon Lindelof's . I'm going to put in a word with my Japanese Cloners. RELEASE THE LINDELOFS!!!
You gotta get JJ Abrams on the show
Before he starts spending money on comics I would like a refund for Prometheus, World War Z, Cowboys vs Aliens and Star Trek: Into Darkness. Four of the worst written films I have ever seen in my life. It's time I will never get back and for that...I will never forgive him. He is a hack.
I can't believe he gets to do what he does either, considering how bad he is at it.
Interesting. He's successful and well-regarded, and you're a miserable random pleb on the internet. Talk about a vibe check.
@@MirandaAndUh Vibe check? That line's as bad as something Damon would write.
That price tag is why I don’t read comics regularly anymore.
Lew Archer 1949 I read in graphic novel form which is still expensive but I would never buy single issues every week because that’s taking money on a whole different level
Jeffrey Irons?
Thanks for destroying Watchmen, comic book reader”🙄
SuperOmnicron how I’ve read the comic to
They make it sound like he created watchmen
Your Warchmen are terrible, Damon
He should read watchmen again cause he clearly didn't understand the point of the story. Which is evident by how bad the show is
Im very disappointed that you recommended spider-man 2019. What a garbage storyline.
Someone should buy him Watchmen, so he can actually read it.
Watchmen has a 98 percent. Yeah I would definitely not trust a small of group of triggered Moore fans or radical right wingers
Tyler Yellowbird , yeah, instead you should blindingly be a sheep and follow a small group of critics, and use their parroted talking points, so you can smugly strawman anybody into being a “right winger”, because you don’t have the capacity to engage in a discussion. You seem bright. 👍🤣
@@transfiguration8865 lol
@@Tyler_Takahashi , did the critics tell you to laugh right there, or did you actually come up wit that on your own? heh
@@transfiguration8865 someone got their feelings hurt lol
Lol all of you bitching about how he should have read the comic, because you doesnt like how the show (which is NOT and adaptation, but a sequel of the comic) didnt turned out the way, you thought it would.
Meanwhile its in the actual video, that he is a megafan of the original graphic novel, borrowed many elements of it to Lost and even got a FUCKING BLURB ON THE ACTUAL WATCHMEN TPB!
This guy ruined LOST.
Farin Vacation and watchmen looks good so far cause is full of mystery, but I think this mofo has no idea how is going to end. It looks so much as lost did, which was a disaster.
Watchmen is not good
I thought it was great
I'm curious. What didn't you like about it? A lot of right wingers are upset over how they portray the Rorschach clan. Is that part of it?
Tyler Yellowbird the artwork. The comic art has to draw me in. It’s not appealing to me.
@@jeremymorehead8828 ahhhh okay. Yeah it's not for everyone
Tyler Yellowbird the art is good. Just not for me.
Ugh, I cannot stand this hack.